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Speaker 1: you can you can get.

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Speaker 3: Some How often does a guy in a preseason game

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Speaker 3: surprise you completely? Is that something that that happens.

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Speaker 1: All it can happen, you know, I tell you it happens.

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Speaker 1: It happened with Banks, you know, not in a preseason.

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Speaker 1: In the regular season, he just was okay, he was

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Speaker 1: doing well in camp. But and then all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden we started playing, and then Chicago that year and

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Speaker 1: then on after that, and he just the energy played with,

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Speaker 1: the finish he played with, the consistency was just different

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Speaker 1: than in practice. I think that you know, the grind

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Speaker 1: of period period period after you know, you don't come

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Speaker 1: to sideline and arrest. You just going and going and

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Speaker 1: going and going. And sometimes some guys don't whether that

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Speaker 1: as well as in any game, you've got the energy

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Speaker 1: of the stadium. You go, plays, you come over, your

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Speaker 1: defense plays, there's just the whole feeling of a game.

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Speaker 1: And so that can happen preseason games. It has too.

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Speaker 1: It's I can't remember offhand guys, but there's always that

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Speaker 1: that guy that when you get in the competition, he

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Speaker 1: just lights up. It's different. He can go full speed,

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Speaker 1: he can dive over piles, and things like that, so

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Speaker 1: it's kind of fun to watch thank you guys.