WEBVTT - I’d Leave it Open (S2, E16 "There's the Rub")

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<v Speaker 1>I am all in. I am all in with Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Patterson and I Hurt Radio podcast. Everybody, We're back and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. I Hurt Radio

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<v Speaker 1>one eleven Productions. We are joined by Riley pelusis h

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<v Speaker 1>Danielle Romo, and we have a bathing a person who's

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<v Speaker 1>sunning right now. Sound normal, you sound like you're far away,

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<v Speaker 1>you sound like you're a country. It's okay, It's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But I love this episode. Did you love it? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you love it? I? Um? I did? I did. It

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<v Speaker 1>made me uncomfortable in many places, but you know, here again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being reformed by the witchcraft and the artistry of

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<v Speaker 1>the creators here because I'm coming around to Paris. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really sympathizing with hers. And yes, this is Harris is shining. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought she had a wonderful Liza had a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful performance in this and she had some very funny,

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<v Speaker 1>daring and endearing moments. Um and the kids stuff I

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<v Speaker 1>thought took over the show. And uh, and I like

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<v Speaker 1>the kids stuff as much as I didn't like it before.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought it was just two kids heavy. I

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<v Speaker 1>liked this episodeft to me it's not like attify kids

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<v Speaker 1>stuff loraa lyon Emily and I think, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>get you know, it was a full circle thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, could you just, you know, be a little

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<v Speaker 1>nicer to your mom. She's just, you know, she's getting

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<v Speaker 1>older now and she's trying, at least she's trying. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with okay stuff because we'll do the kids stuff later,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that was for me so major the

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<v Speaker 1>things that happened. So let's let's go with the spot.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about Emily buying it up, the auction,

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<v Speaker 1>inviting lore La Laurel I thinks it's just for her.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you think of the whole whole set up

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<v Speaker 1>and premise of that. I think I think Emily is

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<v Speaker 1>looking for an excuse to get out of the house,

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<v Speaker 1>to get away from Richard A. I think she wants

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<v Speaker 1>to have Obviously, she was thinking about and been ruminating

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<v Speaker 1>about having a real relationship and being jealous of Laurelized

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with Rory as it turns out, and she wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to have a closer relationship with her daughter and probably

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<v Speaker 1>had all of the same recurring thoughts, uh that anybody

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<v Speaker 1>in that situation would have. Is it's too late to

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<v Speaker 1>have a relationship with somebody after so many years, and

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't establish this thing young. And how did Laurela

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<v Speaker 1>I do it with Rory, you know, I know how

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<v Speaker 1>she did it, and it's my fault, and I pushed

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<v Speaker 1>her out. So I've got to try extra hard to

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<v Speaker 1>get close to my own daughter. And it's just they're

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<v Speaker 1>so alienated from one another, and they're just look, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just old school versus new school. It's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>my my daughter's my best friend versus I'm a role

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<v Speaker 1>model for my daughter. You know, it's it's it's important

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<v Speaker 1>how we behave in front of our children because they

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<v Speaker 1>look up to us. So you know, it's it's half

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<v Speaker 1>of half a dozen, six of another, right, So what

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<v Speaker 1>was Yeah, what was telling for me was I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you. And for the first you know, of the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I really was like Laura La is being just not sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>like not it's not polite even But I was team

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<v Speaker 1>Emily the whole time until the end when I felt like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm no armchair therapist, her narcissism really came out

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<v Speaker 1>because Laura I did nothing wrong and Emily turned it

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<v Speaker 1>and blamed that whole dance her Emily getting all stressed

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<v Speaker 1>out about that on Laura Lia and I thought, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that was gnarly and that's why Lorela has so many

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<v Speaker 1>issues with Emily. Woy Wow, um, that was gnarly. I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought, whoa to add on to Amy's point, also,

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<v Speaker 1>she was kind of tricked into this weekend getaway. It

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<v Speaker 1>was very much positioned as a massage. You know, like Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>I do you wanna do you want to take it?

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<v Speaker 1>And she was like, yeah, of course, Well the gift

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<v Speaker 1>certificates for two, you know, and then she like was like,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm coming, and so you know, it's not what

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<v Speaker 1>Laura I signed up for. She kind of got tricked

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<v Speaker 1>into it a little bit. Man, I don't know, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that didn't bother me as much as

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<v Speaker 1>the end? Scott, what do you think it bothered me?

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<v Speaker 1>Everything about how Laurel I was reacting before they got

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<v Speaker 1>to the spa, and even when they got to the

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<v Speaker 1>spa was bugging me. You know. It certainly hit its

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<v Speaker 1>stride when they look it's always better to watch two

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<v Speaker 1>people coming together than it is for people to be

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<v Speaker 1>in conflict, unless it's you know, it's just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, conflict in film and television, there's a place

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<v Speaker 1>for real conflict, and that is, you know, deep into

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<v Speaker 1>the second act if it's in film, and that's where

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<v Speaker 1>the real conflict is. It was an interesting trajectory because

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<v Speaker 1>first I completely agree with you that lorel I was

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<v Speaker 1>taking it too far, like just stop being so bratty

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoy this even if your mom is talking your

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<v Speaker 1>ear off. Then I thought, okay, Phase two was Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>they were jamming, you know what I mean. They decided

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of there and go to the stake

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<v Speaker 1>dinner and they're getting along and you know, the the

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<v Speaker 1>vicious trollop Lips said, the whole thing these two are. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>these two are really getting along, and I love the

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at the bar, they're enjoying their meal, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were just besties. It was. It was a great camaraderie

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<v Speaker 1>they had. And then I thought, oh wow, that took

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<v Speaker 1>a very strange turn that Emily blamed Laureli for something

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<v Speaker 1>that Lorelei had nothing to do with, which just reeks

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<v Speaker 1>of narcissism to me, Like I was like, whoa, which

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<v Speaker 1>brought me full circle of why Lorelai is so mm

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<v Speaker 1>hmm towards Emily. That was But I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>Emily is holding out hope that that Laurela turns more

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<v Speaker 1>into a person that she can relate to, like somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that's like her, right, And I think she holds this

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<v Speaker 1>hope out because this is my daughter. She had the

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<v Speaker 1>country club life until she was sixteen and made the

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote mistake and the decision of her life that

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<v Speaker 1>altered her whole life. But she's still very lovable and

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<v Speaker 1>still a great character whole thing. But you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you have on the other the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>the coin is you've got Laureli trying to pull the

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<v Speaker 1>steel rod out of Emily's butt. And that's really what

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<v Speaker 1>that episode was about. It's like, I'm going to reverse

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<v Speaker 1>the psychology here. I'm not my mom. My mom manipulated

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<v Speaker 1>me into this, and now I'm gonna now I'm gonna,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, de steal rod my mom here, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>everything just got taken too far. I was very uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved I loved all the bonding. I love that

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<v Speaker 1>they were getting together. I love that they were enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>each other's company. I love that they were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you saw that they really were a mother daughter in

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<v Speaker 1>those moments, they don't seem like mother and daughter. They

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like complete strangers when they are in conflict. I

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<v Speaker 1>really want to hear what your opinion was of the

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<v Speaker 1>final moments, you know, really where after she dances with

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<v Speaker 1>the amazing by the way, wasn't he great? Wasn't he

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<v Speaker 1>just smooth and cool and great? Yeah? Our friend, that

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<v Speaker 1>was our friend, Bernie Miller just there, Yes, he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was perfect. And I believe I don't want to misspeak,

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<v Speaker 1>but it might have been an uncredited appearance. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure he was in the credits at the beginning, so

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<v Speaker 1>we need to fact check that maybe, Riley. But I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to hear what I think he might have just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, let's fact check that because I tried

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<v Speaker 1>to figure it out. So but I really want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from the three of you what you thought at

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<v Speaker 1>the end when Emily freaked out. Obviously she suddenly felt

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable because he was sort of charming her, and then

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<v Speaker 1>there was the sort of more slow dance romantic, and

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<v Speaker 1>she freaked And I just thought it was so fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>that she blamed Laura Lae, And I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear what you guys say, because for me, that was

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<v Speaker 1>just so jarring and just reeked creaked of narcissism. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what is happening? Yeah, I would say I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely it was definitely jarring when she blamed Laura Lae.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think there was something behind it. Here

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<v Speaker 1>she is, like, you know, dancing, this guy has her cheek,

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<v Speaker 1>his cheek right up next to hers. She felt a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of not love, that's but like yearning for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I like, when I was watching that, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>Emily wants that so bad. He made her feel young. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he made her feel young and and special, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. And and I think Emily was craving

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<v Speaker 1>that so in that in that specific scene, I felt

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<v Speaker 1>kind of bad. I was just kind of like, she

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<v Speaker 1>wants is so bad. She wants to feel this way

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<v Speaker 1>and she's not. And here she is as Rando is

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<v Speaker 1>making her feel this way, and she she you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is uncomfortable because of it because it's some somebody she's

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<v Speaker 1>not close to um well and of her era, her

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<v Speaker 1>era totally, it's not very taboo. She's like, I practically

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<v Speaker 1>cheated on him for the world she comes from. That

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<v Speaker 1>is for absolutely perfect word for it, right, whereas our

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<v Speaker 1>our eras like, yeah, it was just a little polarizing

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<v Speaker 1>of a scene for me because I hated the reaction afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>But prior to her yelling at Lorela, I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, oh, Emily, I think that excuse me. I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of that reaction at the end, with

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<v Speaker 1>her blaming Laurea La and getting angry at Lorela was

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<v Speaker 1>less narcissism and more PTSD from the entire the entire relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>because you could, in some fashion say, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be Dr kim here Um, that that relationship

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<v Speaker 1>from Emily's perspective is abusive. She's she's absorbing abuse and

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<v Speaker 1>she just I totally see that. But I felt Emily

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<v Speaker 1>was abusive to Lorelai at the end. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I literally don't know why I'm so barn she take

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<v Speaker 1>how much can she take? But I thought, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean to interrupt, And I know this upsets fans and

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<v Speaker 1>and you're and you're making it very valid, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just that you know how much abuse can Emily take

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<v Speaker 1>from her daughter, who she's trying to give a wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>weekend too, And then realizing that I Emily am overbearing, overbearing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and Laureli is making me feel like I'm overbearing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like she throws her out of the room, pushes her

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<v Speaker 1>out of the room, smacks on the door and says

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<v Speaker 1>silent room or quiet room. It's just it's so rude.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think she popped at the end because of

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<v Speaker 1>all the accumulated snippy comments and condescending quips and and

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<v Speaker 1>the lack of appreciation coming from her own daughter. And

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<v Speaker 1>not that I expect Laurel I to be in lockstep

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<v Speaker 1>with Emily's world and be comfortable with it. Uh, but

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<v Speaker 1>just show a little respect for God's sake. She's taking

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<v Speaker 1>you out on a weekend. I think you're right, but

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<v Speaker 1>I still have the butt. I still have the butt

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<v Speaker 1>because for me, it was like, okay, you're completely right,

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<v Speaker 1>how Lord I was asking at the spot, but I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like they resolved it in the bedroom of the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in or spa whatever it is, whether you know,

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<v Speaker 1>put it on the lipsticks and all that and now

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<v Speaker 1>so wait, I forgive me. Was the stealing of the

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<v Speaker 1>rogues after the melt down. Okay, so she melts down

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<v Speaker 1>and they decided to leave early and they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>have have a resolution again by stealing, so they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess my thing is they have so many ups

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<v Speaker 1>and downs, just like their relationship. It's like, first you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>lordly was inappropriate. Then they resolved it vicious Trollope, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go get the steak. We're gonna eat the nuts. She's

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<v Speaker 1>eating the peanuts by the way, sidebar, did anybody other

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<v Speaker 1>than me think about the fact that you're never supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to eat the peanuts at a bar? I did the bowl?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you think about you see one of my favorite pastimes?

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<v Speaker 1>And how longer? Well? Yeah, in this day and age,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to go anywhere or do anything right

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<v Speaker 1>but her medically sealed suit on. Supposedly, the peanuts in

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<v Speaker 1>a bar are like the gernyest, dirtiest thing, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't can I can I have permission to be like

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<v Speaker 1>totally gross? Of course? Of course? People, yes, Danielle, where

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<v Speaker 1>did we see this? Because people go to the bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>getting a lot of emails now saying could you people

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<v Speaker 1>be more vile and gross? Please? Thank you. Here's so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not okay with the peanuts because you track and

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<v Speaker 1>eat the inside. Those were already shelled, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>just reaching her hand and eating them, and so they

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<v Speaker 1>that what happens is it's a shared bowl and people

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<v Speaker 1>go to the bathroom and come back and stick their

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<v Speaker 1>hand in the pan and you get peanuts. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast was missing. Thank you, thank you, I you

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. This is exactly this is. You've just

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<v Speaker 1>hit a home run. This is let's do a whole

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<v Speaker 1>section on this. Let's do a new segment. We'll do

0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.840
<v Speaker 1>filthy public places. Why don't we do that. The whole

0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.040
<v Speaker 1>time she was eating the peanuts, I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>like Emily, I don't think you should be eating those peanuts.

0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:46.080
<v Speaker 1>There's poopy peanuts in there. Don't do it. Here's a

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<v Speaker 1>thought that just popped into my little head. Uh. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Emily was yelling at Laurel. I. I think

0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:56.080
<v Speaker 1>she was yelling at a younger version of herself. I

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<v Speaker 1>think she was. I think Laurel I held a mirror

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<v Speaker 1>up to her own mother, and Emily didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that to me, that was like of

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<v Speaker 1>the years lost with my daughter, of the way that

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I think she regretted every single part of

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<v Speaker 1>how she was raised. Her her marriage with how her

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<v Speaker 1>marriage has probably deteriorated with Richard because they don't really

0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.240
<v Speaker 1>they used to. They used to go skinny dipping in

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<v Speaker 1>Thailand after eating spicy food and getting drunk when they

0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:35.720
<v Speaker 1>were young and having great sex and all. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>not her life anymore now. She had a little reminder

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<v Speaker 1>of that through the very charismatic and smooth how Lindon

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<v Speaker 1>and who could resist? Right? What? What a what a

0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:50.000
<v Speaker 1>smooth character? Um? And I think she was more upset

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<v Speaker 1>with how her life has become and was taking it

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<v Speaker 1>out on Laureli. But Laurel I kind of deserved it

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<v Speaker 1>after after absorbing so many blows from Lorela in the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of that whole episode. Um, I like what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that was lost. That was her anger

0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.440
<v Speaker 1>towards Laurela. What it was just the loss of her life.

0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.320
<v Speaker 1>It's just a person getting older and missing how she

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<v Speaker 1>used to be. There was definitely more to it. The

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<v Speaker 1>meltdown was way too extreme for it to just be her.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't too extreme for it to just be like

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<v Speaker 1>how London freaked me out or I'm I'm like residually

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<v Speaker 1>mad at Lorelai wait now I have won more how London?

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<v Speaker 1>But wait before you do that. It's like maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>situation and an upset her so much has something to

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<v Speaker 1>do with it. Factor in this uh made her realize

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<v Speaker 1>that she didn't love Richard as much anymore because if

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<v Speaker 1>she did that dance never would have happened. She would

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<v Speaker 1>not have been in that situation. That's an interesting question. Like, Danielle,

0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:04.680
<v Speaker 1>you're married, So if a man came up to you

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<v Speaker 1>like that, like you, you, Riley and me are out

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<v Speaker 1>and a man, a Debonair man comes up and asked

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<v Speaker 1>you to dance? Would you do it? Look, I think

0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.880
<v Speaker 1>everyone has a different marriage, right, But like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>asking me what I would do, I'm cool to do

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<v Speaker 1>a little dance, you a little tal sure, why not?

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think it depends on who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>And Emily Gilmore that does not fly. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it just, you know, kind of depends. But what is

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<v Speaker 1>your take on that accepted the dance? M hmm. That's

0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:48.280
<v Speaker 1>not her, that's not her character. That's that's laurelize evil influence.

0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.160
<v Speaker 1>That's like laurel I manipulated into a bar eating peanuts,

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<v Speaker 1>a martini, eating steak at the bar and then a

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<v Speaker 1>smooth guy comes and he was sitting with another woman

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<v Speaker 1>while he was scoping out Emily. Okay, thank you Scott, Yes,

0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:11.560
<v Speaker 1>thank you for mentioning that. That was what I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you guys, did like did he did a

0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:18.359
<v Speaker 1>girl for Emily? And I thought they almost were holding

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<v Speaker 1>hands in the background because I kept my eye on

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<v Speaker 1>that holendon and was like, what is happening? And then

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<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe he was going to say, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my daughter, Like he didn't even acknowledge that woman

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<v Speaker 1>and he that blew my mind. He's either a bar fly,

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<v Speaker 1>right because he said he's that's you know, his name

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<v Speaker 1>is on that bar stool, or he owns the place.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought. The next thing out of his mouth was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna I'm the owner of the bar. Oh I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was. I thought he was going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>owner of the bar. Maybe he's the owner of the bar,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why he's there so much. Quick tidbit, it was

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<v Speaker 1>an uncredited did that? Just can you explain that quickly

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<v Speaker 1>before we take a break? Will you explain like what

0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.960
<v Speaker 1>that means credited? Like is that sometimes a big name

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<v Speaker 1>does it because they're friends with somebody like what would

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<v Speaker 1>what would uncredited mean? Just just he didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be appear in the credits. He didn't. He just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, just to do it and have fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Different actors, you know, they're different. And

0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.720
<v Speaker 1>do you get paid if you're uncredited? Of course? Of course, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you would still get paid. You just are like, hey,

0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be like it's almost like being anonymous because

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<v Speaker 1>because credits, you know, that's a whole separate negotiation in

0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:30.359
<v Speaker 1>the in the in the back and forth, it's money

0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and then credit and how your name is going to appear,

0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:38.840
<v Speaker 1>and how Lindon or what number in the order name

0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.080
<v Speaker 1>says they appear, how large the name is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in relation to the series regularism. I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like it because if you do watch credits,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm a person that does, you would have seen

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<v Speaker 1>like special guests how Lindon, and then you would have

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<v Speaker 1>been sort of waiting for him where it was such

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<v Speaker 1>a nice surprise for You're like, oh my god, that's

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie Miller. I'm getting that right, right, how Lindes Bernie Miller? Yeah,

0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I think he was. Yeah, um, but yeah, so I

0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't so I was really taken with I mean,

0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Emily really sucked me in with the great acting while

0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.080
<v Speaker 1>she was dancing with him, and then especially slow dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>But when he grabbed her hand and pulled her, she

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<v Speaker 1>went to him. It wasn't just him pulling her. She

0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:24.600
<v Speaker 1>did go to him and she put her arm when

0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:27.280
<v Speaker 1>she was a little drunk. Right, let's just say she

0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.960
<v Speaker 1>had a couple of drinks. She was having a good time,

0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:32.320
<v Speaker 1>she was feeling good, she was vibing with her daughter

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time in a long time. That's like

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<v Speaker 1>totally unexpected, right, And here she was with this this

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<v Speaker 1>this attractive smooth gentleman um and and you know, dancing

0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.960
<v Speaker 1>a nice twirlie dance, you know, and you know he

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<v Speaker 1>did this, he did the thing to her that you know,

0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:53.240
<v Speaker 1>those those bar flies do. They pick on a somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who's had a couple of drinks and then they get

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<v Speaker 1>him in a fast dance and twirl them around and

0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.320
<v Speaker 1>get them all dizzy and then do a slow dance

0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and moving for the kill. Right. So unfortunately, Oh, it's

0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:06.960
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a move. Yeah, it's a it's it's a

0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:08.959
<v Speaker 1>it's a chess game. Out there in the bars. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a chess game. I wouldn't know that. I didn't freaquent

0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 1>them um after the age of five. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that that Lore like gave the bar a

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<v Speaker 1>name I've never heard before, because I've heard cougar bar

0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:24.959
<v Speaker 1>and obviously like singles bar, but that it was a sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more like a right, let's let's let's be real.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a l A you know, I mean, what

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<v Speaker 1>an episode. I know we have to take a break,

0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:43.680
<v Speaker 1>but it's like, I could talk about this half of

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<v Speaker 1>the episode. Do you know how any bar managers and

0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:50.080
<v Speaker 1>restaurant managers there are in l A that instruct their

0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:55.800
<v Speaker 1>staff not to say your granddaughter is lovely because they say, listen,

0:21:56.040 --> 0:22:00.440
<v Speaker 1>that's their girlfriend. Don't say it because the because your

0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:06.399
<v Speaker 1>tips will go Danielle. Okay, you guys. I gotta tell you,

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:10.119
<v Speaker 1>guys one story. I won't name the celebrity, but we

0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:13.440
<v Speaker 1>were at a concert with a bunch of celebrities and

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<v Speaker 1>a very famous celebrity was with his girlfriend now wife

0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:22.399
<v Speaker 1>at the time, and another celebrity we saw it happen

0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.600
<v Speaker 1>literally went up to him and was like, oh, is

0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:30.800
<v Speaker 1>this your daughter? And he's like, no, that's my girlfriend, Danielle.

0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember it? I'm I'm jogging my memory. It

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<v Speaker 1>was at festival in Vegas, and I love I mean,

0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:42.919
<v Speaker 1>this is a famous act. Yeah, you gotta be careful

0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:50.120
<v Speaker 1>with that. At the break, I'll tell you people will

0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:53.880
<v Speaker 1>there are lip readers that that that they'll they'll pick

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<v Speaker 1>up on it and then won't be in trouble. It

0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:59.080
<v Speaker 1>was so amazingly uncomfortable but yet amazing. And then somebody

0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:00.960
<v Speaker 1>else was like, oh my god, did you hear that?

0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Did you hear what just happened? And I just was like,

0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:06.000
<v Speaker 1>you know the emoji where the guy's hand is a

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:15.920
<v Speaker 1>but listen, you know it's She was completely um. She

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:17.720
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have done it unless she was open to it,

0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.760
<v Speaker 1>unless she had some deep feelings about her own marriage

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:22.639
<v Speaker 1>and her own life. She would not have done that,

0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:26.720
<v Speaker 1>you know. But she was happy, She was vulnerable, she

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:29.639
<v Speaker 1>was she was happy. And I had a couple of

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:31.240
<v Speaker 1>drinks in her and she's with her daughter and the

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:34.480
<v Speaker 1>first time there, you know, they're in a long time.

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>They're really enjoying each other's company, genuinely enjoying each other.

0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:42.840
<v Speaker 1>You're right, they really were. Then it just took a

0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:46.639
<v Speaker 1>weird boy. They just toyed with us on that one. Right,

0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 1>that whole thing was so complicated and so interested. I'm

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 1>so interested, you know. I love hearing your perspective because

0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:59.359
<v Speaker 1>I was so like, wow, what is this? We just

0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:02.359
<v Speaker 1>went on a roll? Are close to ride with these two? Yeah?

0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 1>And then the ultimate end, which I do think, you know,

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:07.680
<v Speaker 1>at least we have some peace at the end with

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:10.399
<v Speaker 1>the Robes feeling and Lorela agrees to leave because obviously

0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Emily was just feeling so guilty. I think too. But

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:18.200
<v Speaker 1>look now we now we have somewhere to go in

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.879
<v Speaker 1>the next episode, right, that's what they want to They

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:22.679
<v Speaker 1>don't want to tie it up. They want to keep

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 1>it loose man um. So that that was very, very compelling.

0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I I was uncomfortable, but maybe you were supposed to be.

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that was the intention. Yeah. I don't like being

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable watching that show. I do. I love it. Wait,

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:41.840
<v Speaker 1>so Scott, should we come back and then we have

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the entire other half to break down, which I freaking

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 1>can't wait to hear what you think? We have the

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>kiddy show? Right? We got the kids? Oh, I can't wait.

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I cannot wait. All Right, we're gonna take a little break.

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:56.680
<v Speaker 1>We'll be back and we will we know these two

0:24:56.840 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 1>names over no when it was the second one is

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:07.600
<v Speaker 1>probably right right right? Oh my god, hysterical. We just

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 1>we just we have a screen on the right here,

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 1>and Danielle says to everyone, there's one question mark, there's

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:17.920
<v Speaker 1>one famous person. And then she says, O MG, and

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the names it's just yes, okay, that's really funny. That's

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 1>really funny. That's really anyway. We'll be back after these words.

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>All right, everybody, we're back. We're going to discuss the

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>kiddie show. Which was it was It was quite um,

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>it was quite intertwining, wasn't it. It was quite complex? Yes, yes,

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean they had Paris, they had it was five

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.200
<v Speaker 1>it was five people or no, I'm sorry, is it

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 1>five or four? No, it's four people. It was it

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 1>was two girls, two guys. It was a Dean, Jess,

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Liza or or Paris. And I mean, break it down,

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:05.200
<v Speaker 1>break it down. What did you think and what's your

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 1>takeaway from it all? I felt really bad for Dean.

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's just getting he's just getting smacked around. Man.

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 1>That pork's walking into some bad scenes. Um, listen. I

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:24.160
<v Speaker 1>think that I think that Rory is in a really

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 1>tough spot. I mean, she's got a couple of pretty

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>special guys that are nuts about her. Yeah. Yeah, she's

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>got Dean, who's a special guy. He's for who he is.

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:41.360
<v Speaker 1>He's a pretty spectacular boyfriend and he's a spectacular guy. Um,

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>and I think he's yeah, he's just I think he's

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 1>getting to the end of it. Man. I think he's

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:51.880
<v Speaker 1>just like, Wow, it's because she's slipping away and I'm

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 1>just tired of this and he's tired of getting mad.

0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>It's just so uncomfortable. So let's say she did she

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.200
<v Speaker 1>did would lie, she did lie, and I get why

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 1>but to protect his feelings. But now he's feeling like

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:08.879
<v Speaker 1>she's treating me, like she's hiding something from me. A

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>and B. She doesn't respect me, you know, because that's

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>why she's lying to me. Okay, So can I ask

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>you questions and then you tell me your thoughts, because

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 1>first I want to know what did you think when

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>First of all, what did you think of the fact

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.920
<v Speaker 1>that she didn't want to hang with that she would

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 1>rather I think that's perfectly normal, and I think that's

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>perfectly normal and I think, you know, it's that's just

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:35.360
<v Speaker 1>not a girl thing. Guys do that too, They don't

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:37.359
<v Speaker 1>want to hang with their girlfriends sometimes. So why is

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 1>it a big deal when a guy, you know, when

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>a girl just wants to I just need the house.

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>It's I don't get the house to myself. I got

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of laundry I gotta do. And she was

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 1>even open with him in detail about how she likes

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>to fold the laundry, you know, exposing herself too, So

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's intimacy. She was being intimate with him.

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>She wasn't b s in him. So yes, take your work,

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 1>but we're not going to work out that so we

0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:07.160
<v Speaker 1>don't see any What did you think when knock knock,

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>knock Jeff shows up at the door with all the

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>food from Live in Cool. I don't know. It just

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I hate to say this. It felt a little contrived

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 1>to me. But you because I saw it coming. You

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>knew it was coming. And I think, but I think,

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I think in a story like this, when you've got

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the kiddies there and you've got the opportunity, you've got

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>to take the opportunity because what what is going to be?

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, what is going to be the most how

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 1>do we complicate this situation again? And here we go

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>and this is how we're doing it. So I I

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 1>really wasn't. I was okay with it, and I liked it,

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and I was glad he was there because I thought, oh,

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>now it's going to start getting interesting. And but we

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>know what's gonna happen. It's gonna be Dean's gonna get

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>really piste. So I think what they're doing is they're

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 1>just drawing these two together, this Dean and Jesting. They're

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 1>just drawing them. They're they're creating more and more pressure,

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>more and more conflict for probably an inevitable, inevitable blow

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>up um and then a decision. Decisions are gonna have

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 1>to be made. And I love the fact that that

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Paris forced everybody's forcing their way into two Rory's life.

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like all three of them. It's like

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Paris shows up. I sorry I didn't call, but I'm like,

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, my dad and he's back and he and

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was very funny the way she detailed

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 1>how they went through the actual accounting about the cost

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>of divorce, about the cost of stay. It was one

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>of the funnier moments. I said, damn it, all I

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>had to do was move a decimal point. I went

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>up to go through this crap uh um. Very funny stuff,

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>but you know, everybody is just just knocking Norory Rory's

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>door down. I mean, it's like the all three of them.

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like no, It's like I was the next thing.

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I was expecting Lane to come in through the chimney,

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>like I couldn't take it over. I was like, I

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>missed you so much, and I thought I had a

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>c D in here and I was just getting it

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and I fell and I've got suit all over me.

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 1>But how are you doing? Roory? Let's hanging out. You know,

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like this is the most charismatic, magnetic human being

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>on the well, at least in Stars Hollow, right. I mean,

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 1>there's not much going on there, so everybody's like gravitating

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>towards Rory. So yeah, Daniel is chomping at the bit, Daniel,

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>you say you want to say before before I helped

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Scott with ten more questions, Okay, I just had like

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 1>one revelation this episode that really kind of made me sad.

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>But it was the first episode where I just really

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>did not like Dean. I was just like, I don't

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>like you at all, and I want you to go away.

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Do not yell at Rory that way. Like I was

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 1>so bothered by him this episode, and I was number

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 1>one Dean supporter since episode the first episode he jump

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Dawn and now I'm literally like, uh, bye bye, you

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>gotta go why? So Okay explained that to me too

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more because Dean was right. Ultimately, he

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>was right to be mad because he called, she doesn't

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 1>say Jesse is here. Then he bumps into Jeff and

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it was. But then that was affed up,

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 1>totally fed up. But then he came up to the

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>door and was a bully to you know, like sized

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 1>up Jess, which I would have done too if I

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>was Dean, So I'm not mad about that part. But

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>like then he just freaking rips Rory and you one,

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, dude, you can't do that. No, I know,

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>what about the fact that he called and she said

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Paris is here and doesn't say that Jeff just brought

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>food over. So then Dean walks in and the meals eaten,

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and obviously Jess been there for an hour. Yeah, I

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>just want Dean so badly just to be like, you

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>know what were done where we're done. We gotta go

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 1>like you know this isn't working, your heart somewhere else

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and and that's that. But instead he starts yelling and

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>he gets angry, and he like, but that's what that's

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 1>what a mature person does. He's seventeen, You're very correct there.

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>His hormones are raging. All he does is just suck

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 1>on her face, right, I mean she made a joke

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>about it, like, oh my god, that's my favorite lines

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>coming up? Right? All right? Right, Riley, am I alone

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>on this one? Or are you with me? No? I'm

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 1>with you on that? But like that would I have

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to remember like Scott said that their seventeen and they're young,

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>because I'm with you of like I'm just done, Like

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even gonna I'm just done. But also rory,

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>like we saw the last time Dean reacted when she

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 1>had lunch the last time with Jess, Like why would

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 1>she because you guys, he's seventeen years old. He doesn't

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>want this to be happening. He likes her, this is

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend, this is who he uh, he doesn't want

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>this to be happening, So he's just trying so hard

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>to make it not be an actuality. And I think

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>that's why that scene at the end is just so

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't know what to do. He's seventeen with raging hormones.

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 1>He's it's really attracted to her, he really loves her,

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and they're together well, and she's slipping away. She's slipping.

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>A seventeen year old with raging hormones cannot handle that situation,

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 1>and especially and especially with somebody who's like a Jess,

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:41.479
<v Speaker 1>Like that's a real rival. He's a real threat. I mean,

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>look at him, Yeah, because jesf knows her so well,

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>even like when she's like you gotta go and he's like,

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 1>beans coming over. You didn't tell him I'm here, Like

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Jess has her number, you know what I mean. Like

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>and then at the end when the two of them

0:33:55.920 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>are just completely bonding at Luke's counter, you know, at

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>the register, and Laura Lyon Dean are looking in from

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>the window, both both denying the truth, saying Rory wouldn't lie,

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Rory loves you, when both deep down, no, look we're

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:19.719
<v Speaker 1>both were both screwed because Laura doesn't want it and

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Dean doesn't want it, and it's what you're watching is

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>the gradual destruction of a character and the relationship. And

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 1>this is intentional because how many times now have we

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 1>seen Dean come apart at the seems too many times now?

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 1>He's the guy that can't lose his can't keep his

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>act together. He's not as cool as he started out

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to be. Have we seen Jess lose his marbles in

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>this situation? No, Jesse is the cool one. Jesse's quippy,

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Jesse's and he's And that's how you win, Scott. You

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>just gave me the most Like my head is exploding

0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 1>because you just made me realize we have to not

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 1>like me. We are being forced not to like him,

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:08.240
<v Speaker 1>not not not like him. But no, this guy can't

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 1>hold his water man and he's he's constantly, I hate

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>to say it, but he's pissing all over himself all

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:18.320
<v Speaker 1>the time with jealousy and he's got to stop doing it.

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 1>But he's not going to stop doing it because they

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:23.399
<v Speaker 1>don't want him to stop doing it, because they want

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>that character to go down a notch every time, every episode,

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and he's going down every single time, and it's working.

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>You know what do that overtime. Not until you said

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 1>this did I really realize it, like it was happening.

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I was experiencing it. But you're right, it's strategic because

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 1>now we want her to be yet I want her

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:51.840
<v Speaker 1>to be we are being manipulated by the witchcraftiness of

0:35:52.000 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the creatorscraft there are. And you feel bad for Bean.

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:06.399
<v Speaker 1>You don't hate him, You just sort of like it's

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>time to go have some pride get out. Yeah. I

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:14.320
<v Speaker 1>think that that that final scene, uh, really illustrates that

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 1>he's beginning, it's beginning to dawn on him, that he's

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 1>fighting a force that he can't fend off no matter

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 1>what he does. His height is not going to help

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 1>him on this one. His his his baby blue eyes

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 1>and his his perfectly sculptured face is not going to

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>help him out on this one. And right, I said

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 1>his height. That's the first thing I said. Um, I know,

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just repeating it, right, because that's seen

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 1>with Jeff and Dean on the steps. To me is

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>just perfection. I just love every minute of it, even

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:57.800
<v Speaker 1>though it's so awkward, because it's like, you know, I

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:01.879
<v Speaker 1>think in the real world, and that's back then that's

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 1>what two thousand and one, two thousand and two. I

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:08.279
<v Speaker 1>think in the real world, Um, you know, maybe that

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>town is a little different. But a guy from Chicago,

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to take that from a guy who's

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, six inches shorter. He's gonna get knocked out. Okay,

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>he's just gonna he's you know, somebody's gonna take a

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:23.839
<v Speaker 1>swing there. They're they're raging hormones on both of them.

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 1>These are two These are two kids, you know who

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:31.399
<v Speaker 1>who are crazy in love with this girl. And that's

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 1>that's the point where I don't know. I mean, are

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 1>you team? Are you team Jeff? Now? Scott? Uh yeah, yeah,

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah. I like how he you know, how he

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:50.320
<v Speaker 1>deals with these situations. He's he's gradually becoming more aggressive

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 1>and showing up, yet he's still remaining cool. He's not

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 1>overreacting when he's asked to leave, like, can you get

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 1>at it? Because that's insulting, that's a and feel good.

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:02.399
<v Speaker 1>Dean's coming over. You have to get out of here,

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:05.839
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, really, uh, but you don't. I'm gonna

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>get you know, many toys with her a little well,

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and how about when he says, did we need a

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:14.720
<v Speaker 1>chap around. It's like he knows like it if Paris

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 1>wasn't here, that's why you invited her to stay for

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 1>dinner because something was gonna happen. And he's so steadily,

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>he's so cool. Well that could that could be interpreted

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:28.320
<v Speaker 1>in many different ways. Well what did you think of

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he said Luke wanted to send over food?

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 1>And we find out at the end that Luke because

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 1>he didn't want to expose his feelings, he wanted to

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>be the cool guy. But it was if he came

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 1>over and said, listen, you know if he can't, because

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 1>that's what Dean would do, right right, right, right right?

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:55.279
<v Speaker 1>So different Wow, yeah, because you're like, oh, so he's

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 1>blaming it on Luke, blaming being the wrong word. But

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you get my drift. I then we get the reveal

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 1>at the end and Rory is happy to find out

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>that you didn't send the fish, so it wasn't He

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:10.440
<v Speaker 1>wasn't bummed about that at all. So so Dean represents

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 1>I think he you know, he's a big city kid

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>coming into stars Hollow, but he's completely transformed into stars Hollow.

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:22.320
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't represent anything mysterious anymore, or anything that Rory,

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:26.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, has her her sight set on because she's

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 1>but and but Jess does. He's interesting, he's mysterious, he's

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 1>well read, all of these things. He's clever, he's cool

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 1>under pressure. That's her ticket that Jeff can keep up

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>with Paris. Right, that was huge, So defending the beat,

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 1>right of the beat? Nick writers, Yes, that's three of

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 1>them at the dinner table. Are just having the dream

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>conversation for the three of that and do you know more?

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>And Paris was you know, that wasn't just some kind

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 1>of favor she was doing Rory. She was confessing her

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>love for Jess. Oh so I don't agree. I do,

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>because she in those moments she goes, oh my god,

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how could you not? You know, first of all,

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I think he's incredibly attractive. Second of all, he's well

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:22.240
<v Speaker 1>read for a kid that age. Right, And they're having

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 1>this debate, and she wasn't being terribly hostile about it, right.

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I think she really really stepped up and was going

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to help out her friend, and saw saw Dean yelling

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and being so upset, and she was just did the

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 1>right thing. But the reason that she pulled it off

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 1>is because she was telling the truth, partly telling the

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>truth because she does have feelings. Now for Jess, I

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:52.800
<v Speaker 1>think I won't go as smart agree with that she

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 1>has feelings, But I think you're right. I don't think

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>it was hard for her to act like that and

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>take it, take that one, take one for the team,

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, protect her friends, because it's logical. Yeah, I

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:06.400
<v Speaker 1>have a crush on him and I thought he was

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:08.560
<v Speaker 1>cute when I came into town and blah blah blah.

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think she has feelings for him. I

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 1>think she did it. She really he's the he's he's

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:19.360
<v Speaker 1>an easy attainable for her, but she she has feelings

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>for him. I think she finally is showing I'm a

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 1>good person and I'm loyal to my friend. I thought

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 1>it was a Paris shining moment. I thought, for me,

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>this is the transition or why I have always liked parents,

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 1>because I knew these moments are coming, and it's like, No,

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Paris is a cool chick who totally took one for

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the team here and was like, you know what, I'm

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna just say, I'm glad that we got some uh,

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 1>we got some exposition from her and some background about

0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:55.799
<v Speaker 1>her family, in the situation. It really frames it up

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 1>for me now, and I do like her a lot

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 1>more and I really feel for her, and I'm glad

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 1>that they have this friendship now, or this sort of

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:06.799
<v Speaker 1>sort of mock friendship, you know what I mean. Yeah,

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:10.879
<v Speaker 1>I love it, Yeah, yeah, yeah, because a friend, she's

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 1>very vulnerable and she gets very soft in those moments

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:15.399
<v Speaker 1>and like somebody would like me. And I really felt

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 1>bad for her because you know what, you know, parents

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 1>are they scripted their kids. They do. They make them anxious,

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and they make them, you know, living like like like

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:29.839
<v Speaker 1>Kim said, like Dr Kim said, they live in the absolutes,

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:34.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's all or nothing, all or nothing. You make

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 1>another great point there, and that even though it's very

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 1>subtle and such a small, small storyline, it does peel

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>back the curtain as to why they finally gave us

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:46.399
<v Speaker 1>some some some some exposition here on what her life

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 1>is really like. I mean, they gave us a really

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>clear picture. That was a really clear picture. That's a

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of information to spit out in a couple of paragraphs.

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Dad came back because it was going to cost him.

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, what is this about this man? He's he's

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 1>more interested in his money and his travels. And they

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 1>know they're never home, right, So she's going on, the

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 1>mother's going off with her boyfriend somewhere, and he's going

0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>off with his girlfriend somewhere. All they care about was

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:16.759
<v Speaker 1>his money. They don't give a damn about her. They

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>don't pay attention to Paris. So she turns all that

0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 1>angst and anger and hurt and pain into studying and

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 1>studying and Harvard will be her new parents. And I

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 1>mean I thought for sure she got a D on

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 1>that country test, and I just thought there was all

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:36.880
<v Speaker 1>of branch being handed out, you know that, Like she

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 1>really threw Rory the olive branch by taking taking the

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>pressure off the bean, and then Rory does it and

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 1>return by saying, hey, you want to spend the night,

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>like that's what friends do. Oh yeah, she did her

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 1>so that she said she did her a solid, and hey,

0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that's what a friend would do. And why would I

0:43:58.360 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>like she said, I mean, why would you ever want

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.360
<v Speaker 1>to help me out? I mean that's out of character

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:08.320
<v Speaker 1>for Paris. If anything, Paris would help Dean drive the

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 1>knife in deeper and twisted a little bit, right, Yeah, yeah,

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's not it's you know, it's it's it's

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:19.399
<v Speaker 1>not it's it's it's not it is within the realm

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 1>of possibility that Paris. I mean, that's her behavior, though

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 1>there are patterns. Yeah, So do you think that she

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 1>did this because she's changing or that she is like

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:34.800
<v Speaker 1>this is my favorite freebody? This this show should have

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 1>been called Everybody Wants Rory, you know, I mean the

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:43.399
<v Speaker 1>series should have been Everybody Wants Rory or Everybody Loves Rory,

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 1>like Everybody loves Raymond. I mean, it's like she's the

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 1>most love. She's an incredibly lovable character. And now it's

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 1>beginning for me. It's it's becoming clear that this is

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 1>this is her show. When it's her show, it's her show.

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 1>This is really a show. It's not so much laurelized show.

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 1>It's her show. It's it's and maybe And it jumps

0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 1>back and forth, doesn't it. It focuses on in some episodes.

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 1>In other episodes the focus becomes the kid world, So

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:19.839
<v Speaker 1>it's it's going back and forth. There was a time

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 1>when it was really moralized show, you know, like all

0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:26.840
<v Speaker 1>through the Max stuff, and you know the way, is

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>he still at Chilton Max? Is he still teaching there.

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Did he leave? That's a great question. I don't know,

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 1>because he didn't go. Did he did he go somewhere?

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Can we can we find I don't think that we

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 1>know of. And then I thought, oh, where is he?

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Just is he just like you know, the uncle you

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:47.240
<v Speaker 1>don't talk about. I mean, it's like, all of a sudden,

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 1>he's like he doesn't Yeah, I think he's the uncle

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:52.399
<v Speaker 1>you don't talk about, because we did. We've seen him

0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 1>post breakup, and you know, in brief moments. I'm just

0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 1>assuming they just there was nowhere else to go with him.

0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, was he was he assassinated? What happened? Where

0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>is Max? He's never mentioned anymore. He's like he's not

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 1>even part of the show. And he was such a

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:11.880
<v Speaker 1>big part of the show. He's not even referred to.

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I have one beef with this episode. Do

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 1>you want to hear it? Do you want to take

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 1>a break and then come back for it? I look,

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm always needed to tell down. Yeah, let's do it. Uh,

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:24.680
<v Speaker 1>all right, kids, We're gonna take a little break. Aim.

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:27.799
<v Speaker 1>He's got more surprises for us when we come back,

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:35.480
<v Speaker 1>So we'll be back after these words, all right, everybody,

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 1>We're back, Amy, what do you have? I just do

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 1>not understand how a diner could be open during all

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:44.920
<v Speaker 1>that construction. And I do not understand how how how

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>like like rufe fell into those people's food and all

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 1>you did was offered them a beau. Listen, listen. That's

0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:04.240
<v Speaker 1>small town USA. Okay. People don't sue. They're not litigious people.

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:08.800
<v Speaker 1>They come together as a community. And Luke's cooking and

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>his food and his vibe and his atmosphere are just

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>that powerful. That's a testament to Luke's and there just

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:23.360
<v Speaker 1>what he is. Man, you know, that's it. That was hilarious.

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:27.360
<v Speaker 1>There's so much feeling falling in everyone coffee and eggs,

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 1>and it did that made me more uncomfortable than anything.

0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh god, oh god. I think it

0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:36.520
<v Speaker 1>was funny and it really shows you how, uh you know,

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 1>how out of reality, how lifted from reality the show is,

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:44.799
<v Speaker 1>because that's not going to happen anywhere in the world ever.

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Possible but not probable, probable but not possible. It doesn't

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:54.319
<v Speaker 1>fall into either category. So you're right to point that out.

0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I was expecting Taylor to come and shut it down. Yeah,

0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I just I just Oh, it's a show that doesn't

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:04.840
<v Speaker 1>take itself that seriously. When it's not taking itself that seriously.

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:07.840
<v Speaker 1>When it takes itself seriously, it really takes itself. So

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:11.520
<v Speaker 1>there again, it's a little confusing at times, and I'm

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:13.759
<v Speaker 1>sure for the critics it was a little confusing, like

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:16.920
<v Speaker 1>how could this scene be happening? It's completely unreal, and

0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:19.880
<v Speaker 1>then there's this amazing dramatic scene and then these amazing,

0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:22.360
<v Speaker 1>amazing comedic moments, So what the hell kind of a

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 1>show is it? Right? They couldn't put their finger on

0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 1>it right, they didn't know how to categorize it. I

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:29.719
<v Speaker 1>think that hurt the show. That's just my opinion. It's one,

0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 1>it's wonderful to watch, and it's it's kind of experimental almost.

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:36.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's almost like, I mean I don't want to,

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, go this far, but it's almost like something like, uh,

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:44.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know, it's it's it's how do

0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:51.279
<v Speaker 1>people refer to it? It's very creative, I think, you

0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 1>know what show I think kind of and I'm not

0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 1>saying they took it from Gilmore Girls, but Ship's Creek

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.840
<v Speaker 1>has some elements of that where you really are like

0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 1>this isn't actually going to happen, but it's so entertaining

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 1>and fun to watch. And then there's other moments where

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:07.759
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh yeah, it's totally real. But I think

0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I think anytime you can sprinkle in some absurdity, it

0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>really makes it special. That that's kind of the special

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:16.840
<v Speaker 1>magic of it. You know that this could happen, and

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:20.239
<v Speaker 1>it just it sets up the world right where all

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:23.560
<v Speaker 1>of these things are possible. So it's it's kind of

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:27.800
<v Speaker 1>a nice touch, I thought. Speaking of absurdity, we have

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:31.719
<v Speaker 1>a small little game for you for me. We yeah,

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 1>we are going to read deal Riley and Daniel ten

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe five ten. I don't remember the lipstick lipstick names,

0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:43.880
<v Speaker 1>and we want to know if you think they are

0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 1>real lipstick names or fake lipstick names. This is just okay,

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:52.600
<v Speaker 1>go ahead. I'm not going to enjoy this. Go ahead.

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give everyone all their parents are warning in

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:01.879
<v Speaker 1>the car right now, you have the child in your car.

0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Mute this next five minutes. It's all in honor of Vicious.

0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's only gonna take him game minute, next minute. Okay,

0:50:12.400 --> 0:50:16.400
<v Speaker 1>First one from Too Face Cosmetics, Melted Chihuahua real or

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 1>fake that can't be real. It is real. That's Next

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:30.279
<v Speaker 1>one Jeffrey Star Cosmetics. Pain is pleasure. God, I'm in

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 1>pain right now. Um, I don't know. Probably real it's real. Okay.

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Next one deceased real estate. Let's just say real, it's real.

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Next one dead President's real or fake. That's got to

0:50:52.760 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 1>be fake. That's real. Nice nice, ivy forest green type color.

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Um okay. Two more drug lord real or fake. I'm

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna say real, it's real. Okay. Last one sensor sensor

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:27.040
<v Speaker 1>sensor super orgasm. Um, I'm gonna say it's real. It's real. Real. Sorry, kids,

0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 1>good games. You know you don't know. I love this episode.

0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Why there's this has been one of the most interesting

0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:42.040
<v Speaker 1>conversations we've ever had in however many episodes we've done. This,

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:45.719
<v Speaker 1>this episode really was like stirred me up, you know

0:51:45.800 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like I loved it, but it also

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:50.719
<v Speaker 1>was like, Wow, why did that happen? And why did

0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:53.200
<v Speaker 1>that happen? And whoa, this is major that's just happening

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:55.040
<v Speaker 1>with Dean and just do you know why it's surgeon?

0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Because there was more drama, pure drama in this episode

0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:01.399
<v Speaker 1>on both storyline to the kiddies and the adults then,

0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and usually when they you know, the the norm for

0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:11.000
<v Speaker 1>this show is to have dramedy, they combine it right,

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:13.760
<v Speaker 1>so it's like if it's a if you know, usually

0:52:13.880 --> 0:52:16.880
<v Speaker 1>lauralize really funny with the quippy stuff against her mom,

0:52:16.960 --> 0:52:21.200
<v Speaker 1>but it's set up better. This wasn't funny, you know.

0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I know they were going for funny in the beginning

0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:27.719
<v Speaker 1>with the with the Laurel, you know, but she just

0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:30.480
<v Speaker 1>came off as Brady. So it wasn't It wasn't enjoyable

0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 1>for me, and I think they missed the mark a

0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:34.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit on that. Um. I'm sure a lot of

0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:36.640
<v Speaker 1>people enjoyed it, and if I go back and watch

0:52:36.680 --> 0:52:38.879
<v Speaker 1>it again, maybe I'll enjoy it. But I just thought, wow,

0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:41.719
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna this is how we're gonna start off. Well,

0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's an interesting idea. You know. I would

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:47.320
<v Speaker 1>be curious from time to time, maybe a couple of

0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:51.520
<v Speaker 1>these episodes where you were really something a bug you.

0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I would love to hear what you think when you

0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:56.240
<v Speaker 1>watch it again. You want me to watch it again?

0:52:57.160 --> 0:52:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Uh no, you don't have to now. But but it's

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 1>just you make an interesting point, because I do think

0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:04.719
<v Speaker 1>there's so much to these episodes that when you watch

0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:07.680
<v Speaker 1>it your third fourth, for some people their eleventh times,

0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:11.400
<v Speaker 1>you do see it. Yeah, I don't know. I mean

0:53:12.200 --> 0:53:16.400
<v Speaker 1>with Virginie's I think it's always better. Those are the

0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:19.400
<v Speaker 1>impressions that I got. I'm not saying that they're correct

0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:21.560
<v Speaker 1>or they're that's the way everybody should feel. This is

0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:24.680
<v Speaker 1>way I feel, you know what I felt. I love

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 1>the Dean and Jeff stuff sort of coming to a head.

0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:32.920
<v Speaker 1>And obviously for me, the fact that Rory lied multiple times,

0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:35.759
<v Speaker 1>she knows something that's going on, and then at the

0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:39.719
<v Speaker 1>end we just see her, you know, flirting, I guess

0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:44.440
<v Speaker 1>would be the way to describe her conversation with Jeff.

0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:48.800
<v Speaker 1>It's a dinner, they're flirting. They there's a moat around

0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:52.680
<v Speaker 1>those two, Laura Lane and Rory. There's a there's a

0:53:52.840 --> 0:53:57.839
<v Speaker 1>very wide moat, and people keep trying to breach that moat.

0:53:58.760 --> 0:54:03.000
<v Speaker 1>And Dean has done it. M but now he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to get asked to getting this little dinging go away. Um.

0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:10.759
<v Speaker 1>And I think Jesse is you know, storming the port

0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:15.320
<v Speaker 1>call us as well. Um. And it's just you know,

0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:18.879
<v Speaker 1>Rory is a busy girl. She's she's studying, she wants

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the Ivy League. She wants to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Harvard, and you know she's there's a single parent there,

0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:28.400
<v Speaker 1>so there's more at home things for Rory to have

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to do, um other than studying, right, Um, So I

0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:38.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's just it's just I don't know what

0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to say here. Well, we'll edit all this

0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:44.800
<v Speaker 1>out because I'm I'm kind of no. I think what

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you're saying is really interesting. You're saying, like, yeah, it's

0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Jesse's is time is coming and we can see it.

0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:53.400
<v Speaker 1>It's like, how is it a better show? Is it

0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:58.840
<v Speaker 1>a better show when the kitty storyline is is is

0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:03.719
<v Speaker 1>supporting the adult storyline, the Lorelie relationships and the lower

0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Lie entanglements and the Lorelie issues with Like, is it

0:55:06.719 --> 0:55:12.720
<v Speaker 1>a more powerful drama if it's Emily, Richard, Laurel, Rory

0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:17.279
<v Speaker 1>and then that some luky stuff for Max stuff or whatever,

0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and then they do a little kitty stuff too to

0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:23.680
<v Speaker 1>support all of that. So when Emily, when you know,

0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:26.560
<v Speaker 1>they take Emily out of her house, Richard isn't there,

0:55:27.360 --> 0:55:30.040
<v Speaker 1>which and Richard really was there, wasn't he? I mean,

0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Richard was in this episode at the end when when

0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Emily popped, you know, because this purely could be a

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:41.839
<v Speaker 1>kiddy show. It could have been just a kiddy show, right,

0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:44.680
<v Speaker 1>But I liked it more that we had that other

0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:49.120
<v Speaker 1>storyline too. I think it's right, but you don't think

0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:51.239
<v Speaker 1>this could have gotten ratings if it was just a

0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:54.120
<v Speaker 1>show about you know, let's say, let's just call it

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Rory Rory show, and she's got this mom and just

0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:03.360
<v Speaker 1>got these other storylines. But but then it's like, you

0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:05.200
<v Speaker 1>don't think the c You don't think the c W

0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:08.720
<v Speaker 1>could have made that fly with all these beautiful looking

0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:12.680
<v Speaker 1>kids and stars Hollow and then all and then all

0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:17.400
<v Speaker 1>of the other characters, you know, the Laureli, Luke, everybody,

0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:20.920
<v Speaker 1>all these other characters are just sort of supporting characters.

0:56:21.000 --> 0:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>They're not leading characters. But then it just wouldn't be

0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:25.920
<v Speaker 1>the special show that it is. It's like, yeah, that

0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:27.920
<v Speaker 1>that could have been something, and the c W have

0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 1>plenty of those. But I need to me ultimately, as

0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:36.239
<v Speaker 1>much as Rory is so important, this show is Luke,

0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Luke and Laurel. To me, it just I was gonna say,

0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:45.680
<v Speaker 1>dare say it, Rory isn't my favorite character. I'm gonna

0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:52.480
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of hate, but Emily is the shining

0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:57.359
<v Speaker 1>star for me. See for me, I'm Laura Lize till

0:56:57.400 --> 0:57:01.239
<v Speaker 1>the day I die. I love her so much. But

0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:03.279
<v Speaker 1>what I think is so cool is, like you said

0:57:03.320 --> 0:57:05.759
<v Speaker 1>the fifty, Like, when I was younger and watched this,

0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:09.359
<v Speaker 1>I love drawing, And now as I'm rewatching it, I'm

0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:12.200
<v Speaker 1>leaning more towards Loral. So I feel like that's why

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:15.719
<v Speaker 1>it's maybe span so long, is like each phase of

0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:19.000
<v Speaker 1>life you get to relate to a different female in

0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:24.720
<v Speaker 1>the Gilmware Girls. H yeah, that's a that's a really

0:57:24.920 --> 0:57:27.400
<v Speaker 1>great point because I was older when I started it,

0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and so I've just been always lower Lie. But it's just,

0:57:32.080 --> 0:57:35.160
<v Speaker 1>isn't It really just shows us with the older characters,

0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:38.640
<v Speaker 1>how jaded people become and so set in their ways,

0:57:38.760 --> 0:57:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and then you've got this really fresh faced, innocent, young,

0:57:43.160 --> 0:57:46.360
<v Speaker 1>brilliant girl who justice like kind of open to anything,

0:57:46.720 --> 0:57:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's just it's really it's a really

0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 1>nice reprieve from all of the drama created by all

0:57:53.480 --> 0:57:56.120
<v Speaker 1>of these people who were just so setting their ways.

0:57:56.280 --> 0:57:59.640
<v Speaker 1>And there and there's social classes and there's clashing and

0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:03.040
<v Speaker 1>there's planking, and you go back to Rory and Rory

0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:05.800
<v Speaker 1>is really the piece of this show. She's the peaceful,

0:58:06.560 --> 0:58:09.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of still center of the show in my opinion,

0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:13.080
<v Speaker 1>because no matter how much drama she gets involved in,

0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:20.280
<v Speaker 1>she never seems to lose herself. You know, she's she's

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:24.680
<v Speaker 1>solf because she doesn't know how else. She's genuine. She's

0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:28.360
<v Speaker 1>a genuine person. But I I think I could watch

0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 1>an episode without Rory, Like, I can't this for me.

0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see it without Laura. Like if

0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:38.800
<v Speaker 1>if Rory, I don't know, let's say alexis how to

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:41.080
<v Speaker 1>tell me ache one day and couldn't work, I could

0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:46.800
<v Speaker 1>still enjoy the episode, you know, I could. I do

0:58:47.000 --> 0:58:49.480
<v Speaker 1>think I could. I could enjoy. To me, this is

0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Lauren Graham show, this is Laura Live and and to me,

0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:59.600
<v Speaker 1>there's no show without Luke nothing. So there you go, Yeah, yeah,

0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:01.959
<v Speaker 1>I think it is Laurence show. I think it would

0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:05.400
<v Speaker 1>be weird without Rory. I think it's both their shows.

0:59:05.480 --> 0:59:07.960
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, you know, it does tend to go

0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:10.920
<v Speaker 1>back and forth, and the drama does tend to become

0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:15.080
<v Speaker 1>a little more pure in some places with less of

0:59:15.160 --> 0:59:18.080
<v Speaker 1>a setup for humor. So you know, it goes from

0:59:18.200 --> 0:59:22.280
<v Speaker 1>drama ney to comedy to drama to absurdity all in

0:59:22.400 --> 0:59:26.400
<v Speaker 1>one episode, you know, and it's it's kind of wonderful.

0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:29.200
<v Speaker 1>It really is. You know. It just certainly keeps you

0:59:29.280 --> 0:59:31.840
<v Speaker 1>on your toes. You know, you can't really put it

0:59:31.920 --> 0:59:34.920
<v Speaker 1>into a category, which I think. Oh, I won't even

0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:36.320
<v Speaker 1>go there again. I'm not gonna go there again. I

0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:44.680
<v Speaker 1>don't want to get the emails. Um, but Riley, go ahead.

0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:46.560
<v Speaker 1>First of all, I love when Paris is talking about

0:59:46.560 --> 0:59:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the macaroni and cheese, because macaroni chee cheese is just

0:59:49.080 --> 0:59:51.320
<v Speaker 1>so special. But she said, do you have a twenty

0:59:51.360 --> 0:59:53.400
<v Speaker 1>for our pharmacy just in case I have an allergic

0:59:53.440 --> 1:00:02.120
<v Speaker 1>reaction to something? M hmm um, Daniel, okay. Mine is

1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:05.680
<v Speaker 1>from Rory to Dean after they made out. She says, well,

1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:12.960
<v Speaker 1>your lung capacity has certainly improved. Yeah, um, Amy, what

1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:17.800
<v Speaker 1>about you dishes trawlap dirty hoore was taken. That was

1:00:17.880 --> 1:00:21.720
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite I would say that was probably

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<v Speaker 1>my winner. Um okay, you gotta help me with this

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<v Speaker 1>favorite line. Thing. Paris said something in reference to Rory's

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<v Speaker 1>pajamas about entertaining Mr Peanut. Right, Oh yeah, yah, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was particularly funny. Yeah. I also loved those

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<v Speaker 1>that seg with segways so well in this fashion. I

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<v Speaker 1>loved the Planters pajamas. I loved Jesse's button down shirt

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<v Speaker 1>with the flag that navy blue. One did anyone else

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<v Speaker 1>favorite fer moments? Oh? Favorite Lourla was wearing a shirt

1:01:01.360 --> 1:01:08.320
<v Speaker 1>that says yoga kills amazing, amazing. Gosh, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that I have any favorite fashion moments. Um. I really

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<v Speaker 1>liked Luke's flannel. I thought it was what an original,

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<v Speaker 1>surprising thing really should I don't know what they're thinking. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I have one more favorite line before we go, when

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<v Speaker 1>Paris was at the door and she says, there's is

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<v Speaker 1>there going to be some hot knitting going on Paris?

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<v Speaker 1>This is a great episode for Paris. It really really was,

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<v Speaker 1>and and it and it. You know, it brought me

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<v Speaker 1>into her camp. Now I'm fully supportive of of Paris,

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<v Speaker 1>and because then now I know what her plate has been,

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<v Speaker 1>what she faces in the future, because this just isn't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get resolved overnight. It's this is This is a lingering,

1:01:56.080 --> 1:01:59.200
<v Speaker 1>years long process for Paris. So I feel bad for her.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like her. I'm glad she's friends with Rory.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was a very very strong episode for

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<v Speaker 1>for Eliza Um. And you know the thing I'll never

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<v Speaker 1>forget is is is Kelly Bishops acting When she was

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<v Speaker 1>dancing with that with how Lyndon and the and the

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<v Speaker 1>the push pull, the struggle, she was having morally with

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<v Speaker 1>it and you could see it etched all over her face,

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<v Speaker 1>especially during the slow dance. I mean she was having

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<v Speaker 1>a blast uh in the fast song. But my god, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the best you know, the best line

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole thing, because those are real people that

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<v Speaker 1>were in the band, the drummer and the piano player.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are real people there. They're a fixture. They've been

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<v Speaker 1>at this bar, this classic bar in Hollywood for fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>They were a long long Yes, yes, they are the

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<v Speaker 1>house band. I even think it's their restaurant. I should know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know in Swingers, you know that movie

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<v Speaker 1>Swingers with Vince Vaughn and Jon Fabrow, They go into

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<v Speaker 1>that same bar and those people are in that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the name of that bar? It's a very

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<v Speaker 1>famous bar in Hollywood, and I don't I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what. I don't know what the name

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<v Speaker 1>of it is. But I used to go there, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and when she says, can we can we bribe you,

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<v Speaker 1>she's loads right, no, yes, good. But he the drummer,

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<v Speaker 1>the second the part of the part of that band,

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<v Speaker 1>the husband and wife team, um, who play all the

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<v Speaker 1>classic songs there. His line was, and this one and

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<v Speaker 1>here is another one from the chairman of the board.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't mean b O R E. D. I

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<v Speaker 1>just went and he and it was and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like the guy's not an actor, but he delivered it

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. But it was for me. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>like one of these he told a bad joke really

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<v Speaker 1>well or or a good joke really poorly, and it

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<v Speaker 1>just worked on every level for me. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>blurted out laughing. I was like, good for you, man,

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<v Speaker 1>a good line anyway, silly joke, but good for him?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it? The three clubs? The three clubs? The name

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<v Speaker 1>of the bar. I don't think that's the name of

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<v Speaker 1>the bar. It's a classic Hollywood bar. It was featured. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's further. It's deeper into Hollywood than that. It's past,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's downside. You gotta go way past Sunset Pole.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean on Sunset you gotta go way past Chatau Riley,

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<v Speaker 1>what episode are we watching now? It's like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's I think it's like around Fine Street. It's down

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<v Speaker 1>there even maybe further. Next up we have episode seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>Dead Uncles and Vegetables, Dead Uncles and Vegetables, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to find out the names. Yes we are,

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<v Speaker 1>because that is a that's where they play. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if they still play there, but and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know if the bar exists. But anyway, Um, all right, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a spirited, spirited conversation, wasn't There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to unpack on that one. Anyway, good job, thanks for

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