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Speaker 1: I am all in. I am all in with Scott

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Speaker 1: Patterson and I Hurt Radio podcast. Everybody, We're back and uh,

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Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. I Hurt Radio

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Speaker 1: one eleven Productions. We are joined by Riley pelusis h

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Speaker 1: Danielle Romo, and we have a bathing a person who's

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Speaker 1: sunning right now. Sound normal, you sound like you're far away,

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Speaker 1: you sound like you're a country. It's okay, It's okay.

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Speaker 1: But I love this episode. Did you love it? Did

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Speaker 1: you love it? I? Um? I did? I did. It

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Speaker 1: made me uncomfortable in many places, but you know, here again,

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Speaker 1: I'm being reformed by the witchcraft and the artistry of

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Speaker 1: the creators here because I'm coming around to Paris. I'm

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Speaker 1: really sympathizing with hers. And yes, this is Harris is shining. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And I thought she had a wonderful Liza had a

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Speaker 1: wonderful performance in this and she had some very funny,

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Speaker 1: daring and endearing moments. Um and the kids stuff I

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Speaker 1: thought took over the show. And uh, and I like

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Speaker 1: the kids stuff as much as I didn't like it before.

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Speaker 1: And I thought it was just two kids heavy. I

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Speaker 1: liked this episodeft to me it's not like attify kids

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Speaker 1: stuff loraa lyon Emily and I think, you know, we

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Speaker 1: get you know, it was a full circle thing, but

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Speaker 1: it's like, could you just, you know, be a little

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Speaker 1: nicer to your mom. She's just, you know, she's getting

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Speaker 1: older now and she's trying, at least she's trying. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with okay stuff because we'll do the kids stuff later,

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Speaker 1: because I think that was for me so major the

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Speaker 1: things that happened. So let's let's go with the spot.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about Emily buying it up, the auction,

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Speaker 1: inviting lore La Laurel I thinks it's just for her.

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Speaker 1: What did you think of the whole whole set up

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Speaker 1: and premise of that. I think I think Emily is

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Speaker 1: looking for an excuse to get out of the house,

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Speaker 1: to get away from Richard A. I think she wants

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Speaker 1: to have Obviously, she was thinking about and been ruminating

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Speaker 1: about having a real relationship and being jealous of Laurelized

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Speaker 1: relationship with Rory as it turns out, and she wanted

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Speaker 1: to have a closer relationship with her daughter and probably

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Speaker 1: had all of the same recurring thoughts, uh that anybody

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Speaker 1: have a relationship with somebody after so many years, and

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Speaker 1: we didn't establish this thing young. And how did Laurela

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Speaker 1: I do it with Rory, you know, I know how

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Speaker 1: she did it, and it's my fault, and I pushed

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Speaker 1: her out. So I've got to try extra hard to

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Speaker 1: get close to my own daughter. And it's just they're

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Speaker 1: so alienated from one another, and they're just look, it's

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Speaker 1: just old school versus new school. It's you know, it's

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Speaker 1: my my daughter's my best friend versus I'm a role

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Speaker 1: model for my daughter. You know, it's it's it's important

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Speaker 1: how we behave in front of our children because they

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Speaker 1: look up to us. So you know, it's it's half

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Speaker 1: of half a dozen, six of another, right, So what

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Speaker 1: was Yeah, what was telling for me was I agree

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Speaker 1: I really was like Laura La is being just not sweet,

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Speaker 1: like not it's not polite even But I was team

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Speaker 1: Emily the whole time until the end when I felt like,

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Speaker 1: and I'm no armchair therapist, her narcissism really came out

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Speaker 1: because Laura I did nothing wrong and Emily turned it

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Speaker 1: that was gnarly and that's why Lorela has so many

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Speaker 1: issues with Emily. Woy Wow, um, that was gnarly. I

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Speaker 1: Laura I signed up for. She kind of got tricked

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Speaker 1: the end? Scott, what do you think it bothered me?

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Speaker 1: Everything about how Laurel I was reacting before they got

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Speaker 1: they were jamming, you know what I mean. They decided

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Speaker 1: they had. And then I thought, oh wow, that took

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Speaker 1: a very strange turn that Emily blamed Laureli for something

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Speaker 1: brought me full circle of why Lorelai is so mm

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Speaker 1: that's like her, right, And I think she holds this

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Speaker 1: quote unquote mistake and the decision of her life that

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Speaker 1: altered her whole life. But she's still very lovable and

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Speaker 1: still a great character whole thing. But you know, and

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Speaker 1: then you have on the other the other side of

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Speaker 1: steel rod out of Emily's butt. And that's really what

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Speaker 1: that episode was about. It's like, I'm going to reverse

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Speaker 1: the psychology here. I'm not my mom. My mom manipulated

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Speaker 1: everything just got taken too far. I was very uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: He was perfect. And I believe I don't want to misspeak,

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Speaker 1: we need to fact check that maybe, Riley. But I'd

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Speaker 1: definitely it was definitely jarring when she blamed Laura Lae.

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Speaker 1: era totally, it's not very taboo. She's like, I practically

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Speaker 1: But prior to her yelling at Lorela, I was kind

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Speaker 1: trying to be Dr kim here Um, that that relationship

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Speaker 1: all the accumulated snippy comments and condescending quips and and

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Speaker 1: the lack of appreciation coming from her own daughter. And

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Speaker 1: not that I expect Laurel I to be in lockstep

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Speaker 1: just show a little respect for God's sake. She's taking

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Speaker 1: you out on a weekend. I think you're right, but

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Speaker 1: because for me, it was like, okay, you're completely right,

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Speaker 1: how Lord I was asking at the spot, but I

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Speaker 1: felt like they resolved it in the bedroom of the

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Speaker 1: put it on the lipsticks and all that and now

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Speaker 1: so wait, I forgive me. Was the stealing of the

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Speaker 1: rogues after the melt down. Okay, so she melts down

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Speaker 1: and they decided to leave early and they kind of

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Speaker 1: I guess my thing is they have so many ups

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Speaker 1: lordly was inappropriate. Then they resolved it vicious Trollope, let's

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Speaker 1: eating the peanuts by the way, sidebar, did anybody other

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Speaker 1: than me think about the fact that you're never supposed

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Speaker 1: was two girls, two guys. It was a Dean, Jess,

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00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: Liza or or Paris. And I mean, break it down,

424
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: break it down. What did you think and what's your

425
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: takeaway from it all? I felt really bad for Dean.

426
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: I mean he's just getting he's just getting smacked around. Man.

427
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: That pork's walking into some bad scenes. Um, listen. I

428
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: think that I think that Rory is in a really

429
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: tough spot. I mean, she's got a couple of pretty

430
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: special guys that are nuts about her. Yeah. Yeah, she's

431
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: got Dean, who's a special guy. He's for who he is.

432
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 1: He's a pretty spectacular boyfriend and he's a spectacular guy. Um,

433
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: and I think he's yeah, he's just I think he's

434
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: getting to the end of it. Man. I think he's

435
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: just like, Wow, it's because she's slipping away and I'm

436
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: just tired of this and he's tired of getting mad.

437
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: It's just so uncomfortable. So let's say she did she

438
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: did would lie, she did lie, and I get why

439
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: but to protect his feelings. But now he's feeling like

440
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: she's treating me, like she's hiding something from me. A

441
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: and B. She doesn't respect me, you know, because that's

442
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: why she's lying to me. Okay, So can I ask

443
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: you questions and then you tell me your thoughts, because

444
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: first I want to know what did you think when

445
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: First of all, what did you think of the fact

446
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: that she didn't want to hang with that she would

447
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: rather I think that's perfectly normal, and I think that's

448
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: perfectly normal and I think, you know, it's that's just

449
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: not a girl thing. Guys do that too, They don't

450
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: want to hang with their girlfriends sometimes. So why is

451
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: it a big deal when a guy, you know, when

452
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: a girl just wants to I just need the house.

453
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: It's I don't get the house to myself. I got

454
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of laundry I gotta do. And she was

455
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: even open with him in detail about how she likes

456
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: to fold the laundry, you know, exposing herself too, So

457
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: I mean that's intimacy. She was being intimate with him.

458
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: She wasn't b s in him. So yes, take your work,

459
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: but we're not going to work out that so we

460
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: don't see any What did you think when knock knock,

461
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: knock Jeff shows up at the door with all the

462
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: food from Live in Cool. I don't know. It just

463
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: I hate to say this. It felt a little contrived

464
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: to me. But you because I saw it coming. You

465
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: knew it was coming. And I think, but I think,

466
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: I think in a story like this, when you've got

467
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: the kiddies there and you've got the opportunity, you've got

468
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: to take the opportunity because what what is going to be?

469
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: You know, what is going to be the most how

470
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: do we complicate this situation again? And here we go

471
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: and this is how we're doing it. So I I

472
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: really wasn't. I was okay with it, and I liked it,

473
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: and I was glad he was there because I thought, oh,

474
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: now it's going to start getting interesting. And but we

475
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. It's gonna be Dean's gonna get

476
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: really piste. So I think what they're doing is they're

477
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: just drawing these two together, this Dean and Jesting. They're

478
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: just drawing them. They're they're creating more and more pressure,

479
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: more and more conflict for probably an inevitable, inevitable blow

480
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: up um and then a decision. Decisions are gonna have

481
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: to be made. And I love the fact that that

482
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: Paris forced everybody's forcing their way into two Rory's life.

483
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like all three of them. It's like

484
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: Paris shows up. I sorry I didn't call, but I'm like,

485
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: you know, my dad and he's back and he and

486
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: I thought it was very funny the way she detailed

487
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: how they went through the actual accounting about the cost

488
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: of divorce, about the cost of stay. It was one

489
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: of the funnier moments. I said, damn it, all I

490
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: had to do was move a decimal point. I went

491
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: up to go through this crap uh um. Very funny stuff,

492
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: but you know, everybody is just just knocking Norory Rory's

493
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: door down. I mean, it's like the all three of them.

494
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: It's like no, It's like I was the next thing.

495
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: I was expecting Lane to come in through the chimney,

496
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: like I couldn't take it over. I was like, I

497
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: missed you so much, and I thought I had a

498
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: c D in here and I was just getting it

499
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: and I fell and I've got suit all over me.

500
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: But how are you doing? Roory? Let's hanging out. You know,

501
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: it's like this is the most charismatic, magnetic human being

502
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: on the well, at least in Stars Hollow, right. I mean,

503
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: there's not much going on there, so everybody's like gravitating

504
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: towards Rory. So yeah, Daniel is chomping at the bit, Daniel,

505
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: you say you want to say before before I helped

506
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: Scott with ten more questions, Okay, I just had like

507
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: one revelation this episode that really kind of made me sad.

508
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: But it was the first episode where I just really

509
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: did not like Dean. I was just like, I don't

510
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: like you at all, and I want you to go away.

511
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: Do not yell at Rory that way. Like I was

512
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: so bothered by him this episode, and I was number

513
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: one Dean supporter since episode the first episode he jump

514
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: Dawn and now I'm literally like, uh, bye bye, you

515
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: gotta go why? So Okay explained that to me too

516
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more because Dean was right. Ultimately, he

517
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: was right to be mad because he called, she doesn't

518
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: say Jesse is here. Then he bumps into Jeff and

519
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: it's it's it was. But then that was affed up,

520
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: totally fed up. But then he came up to the

521
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: door and was a bully to you know, like sized

522
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: up Jess, which I would have done too if I

523
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: was Dean, So I'm not mad about that part. But

524
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: like then he just freaking rips Rory and you one,

525
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dude, you can't do that. No, I know,

526
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: what about the fact that he called and she said

527
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: Paris is here and doesn't say that Jeff just brought

528
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: food over. So then Dean walks in and the meals eaten,

529
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: and obviously Jess been there for an hour. Yeah, I

530
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: just want Dean so badly just to be like, you

531
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: know what were done where we're done. We gotta go

532
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: like you know this isn't working, your heart somewhere else

533
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: and and that's that. But instead he starts yelling and

534
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: he gets angry, and he like, but that's what that's

535
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: what a mature person does. He's seventeen, You're very correct there.

536
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: His hormones are raging. All he does is just suck

537
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: on her face, right, I mean she made a joke

538
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: about it, like, oh my god, that's my favorite lines

539
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: coming up? Right? All right? Right, Riley, am I alone

540
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: on this one? Or are you with me? No? I'm

541
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: with you on that? But like that would I have

542
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: to remember like Scott said that their seventeen and they're young,

543
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: because I'm with you of like I'm just done, Like

544
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna I'm just done. But also rory,

545
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: like we saw the last time Dean reacted when she

546
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: had lunch the last time with Jess, Like why would

547
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: she because you guys, he's seventeen years old. He doesn't

548
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: want this to be happening. He likes her, this is

549
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: his girlfriend, this is who he uh, he doesn't want

550
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: this to be happening, So he's just trying so hard

551
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: to make it not be an actuality. And I think

552
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: that's why that scene at the end is just so

553
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't know what to do. He's seventeen with raging hormones.

554
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: He's it's really attracted to her, he really loves her,

555
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: and they're together well, and she's slipping away. She's slipping.

556
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: A seventeen year old with raging hormones cannot handle that situation,

557
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: and especially and especially with somebody who's like a Jess,

558
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,479
Speaker 1: Like that's a real rival. He's a real threat. I mean,

559
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: look at him, Yeah, because jesf knows her so well,

560
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: even like when she's like you gotta go and he's like,

561
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: beans coming over. You didn't tell him I'm here, Like

562
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: Jess has her number, you know what I mean. Like

563
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: and then at the end when the two of them

564
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: are just completely bonding at Luke's counter, you know, at

565
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: the register, and Laura Lyon Dean are looking in from

566
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: the window, both both denying the truth, saying Rory wouldn't lie,

567
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: Rory loves you, when both deep down, no, look we're

568
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: both were both screwed because Laura doesn't want it and

569
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: Dean doesn't want it, and it's what you're watching is

570
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: the gradual destruction of a character and the relationship. And

571
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: this is intentional because how many times now have we

572
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: seen Dean come apart at the seems too many times now?

573
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: He's the guy that can't lose his can't keep his

574
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: act together. He's not as cool as he started out

575
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: to be. Have we seen Jess lose his marbles in

576
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: this situation? No, Jesse is the cool one. Jesse's quippy,

577
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: Jesse's and he's And that's how you win, Scott. You

578
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: just gave me the most Like my head is exploding

579
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: because you just made me realize we have to not

580
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: like me. We are being forced not to like him,

581
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: not not not like him. But no, this guy can't

582
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: hold his water man and he's he's constantly, I hate

583
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: to say it, but he's pissing all over himself all

584
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: the time with jealousy and he's got to stop doing it.

585
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: But he's not going to stop doing it because they

586
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: don't want him to stop doing it, because they want

587
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: that character to go down a notch every time, every episode,

588
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: and he's going down every single time, and it's working.

589
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: You know what do that overtime. Not until you said

590
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: this did I really realize it, like it was happening.

591
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: I was experiencing it. But you're right, it's strategic because

592
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: now we want her to be yet I want her

593
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: to be we are being manipulated by the witchcraftiness of

594
00:35:52,000 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: the creatorscraft there are. And you feel bad for Bean.

595
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: You don't hate him, You just sort of like it's

596
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: time to go have some pride get out. Yeah. I

597
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: think that that that final scene, uh, really illustrates that

598
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: he's beginning, it's beginning to dawn on him, that he's

599
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: fighting a force that he can't fend off no matter

600
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: what he does. His height is not going to help

601
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: him on this one. His his his baby blue eyes

602
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: and his his perfectly sculptured face is not going to

603
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: help him out on this one. And right, I said

604
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: his height. That's the first thing I said. Um, I know,

605
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just repeating it, right, because that's seen

606
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: with Jeff and Dean on the steps. To me is

607
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: just perfection. I just love every minute of it, even

608
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: though it's so awkward, because it's like, you know, I

609
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: think in the real world, and that's back then that's

610
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: what two thousand and one, two thousand and two. I

611
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: think in the real world, Um, you know, maybe that

612
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: town is a little different. But a guy from Chicago,

613
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: it's not going to take that from a guy who's

614
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: you know, six inches shorter. He's gonna get knocked out. Okay,

615
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: he's just gonna he's you know, somebody's gonna take a

616
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: swing there. They're they're raging hormones on both of them.

617
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: These are two These are two kids, you know who

618
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: who are crazy in love with this girl. And that's

619
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: that's the point where I don't know. I mean, are

620
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: you team? Are you team Jeff? Now? Scott? Uh yeah, yeah,

621
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I like how he you know, how he

622
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: deals with these situations. He's he's gradually becoming more aggressive

623
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: and showing up, yet he's still remaining cool. He's not

624
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: overreacting when he's asked to leave, like, can you get

625
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: at it? Because that's insulting, that's a and feel good.

626
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: Dean's coming over. You have to get out of here,

627
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: and he's like, really, uh, but you don't. I'm gonna

628
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: get you know, many toys with her a little well,

629
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: and how about when he says, did we need a

630
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: chap around. It's like he knows like it if Paris

631
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: wasn't here, that's why you invited her to stay for

632
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: dinner because something was gonna happen. And he's so steadily,

633
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: he's so cool. Well that could that could be interpreted

634
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: in many different ways. Well what did you think of

635
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: the fact that he said Luke wanted to send over food?

636
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: And we find out at the end that Luke because

637
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: he didn't want to expose his feelings, he wanted to

638
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: be the cool guy. But it was if he came

639
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: over and said, listen, you know if he can't, because

640
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: that's what Dean would do, right right, right, right right?

641
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: So different Wow, yeah, because you're like, oh, so he's

642
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: blaming it on Luke, blaming being the wrong word. But

643
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: you get my drift. I then we get the reveal

644
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: at the end and Rory is happy to find out

645
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: that you didn't send the fish, so it wasn't He

646
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: wasn't bummed about that at all. So so Dean represents

647
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: I think he you know, he's a big city kid

648
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: coming into stars Hollow, but he's completely transformed into stars Hollow.

649
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: He doesn't represent anything mysterious anymore, or anything that Rory,

650
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 1: you know, has her her sight set on because she's

651
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: but and but Jess does. He's interesting, he's mysterious, he's

652
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: well read, all of these things. He's clever, he's cool

653
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: under pressure. That's her ticket that Jeff can keep up

654
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: with Paris. Right, that was huge, So defending the beat,

655
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: right of the beat? Nick writers, Yes, that's three of

656
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: them at the dinner table. Are just having the dream

657
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: conversation for the three of that and do you know more?

658
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: And Paris was you know, that wasn't just some kind

659
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: of favor she was doing Rory. She was confessing her

660
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: love for Jess. Oh so I don't agree. I do,

661
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: because she in those moments she goes, oh my god,

662
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: I mean, how could you not? You know, first of all,

663
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: I think he's incredibly attractive. Second of all, he's well

664
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 1: read for a kid that age. Right, And they're having

665
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: this debate, and she wasn't being terribly hostile about it, right.

666
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: I think she really really stepped up and was going

667
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: to help out her friend, and saw saw Dean yelling

668
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: and being so upset, and she was just did the

669
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: right thing. But the reason that she pulled it off

670
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: is because she was telling the truth, partly telling the

671
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: truth because she does have feelings. Now for Jess, I

672
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: think I won't go as smart agree with that she

673
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: has feelings, But I think you're right. I don't think

674
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: it was hard for her to act like that and

675
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: take it, take that one, take one for the team,

676
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, protect her friends, because it's logical. Yeah, I

677
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: have a crush on him and I thought he was

678
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: cute when I came into town and blah blah blah.

679
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: But I don't think she has feelings for him. I

680
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: think she did it. She really he's the he's he's

681
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: an easy attainable for her, but she she has feelings

682
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: for him. I think she finally is showing I'm a

683
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: good person and I'm loyal to my friend. I thought

684
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: it was a Paris shining moment. I thought, for me,

685
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: this is the transition or why I have always liked parents,

686
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: because I knew these moments are coming, and it's like, No,

687
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: Paris is a cool chick who totally took one for

688
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: the team here and was like, you know what, I'm

689
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: gonna just say, I'm glad that we got some uh,

690
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: we got some exposition from her and some background about

691
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: her family, in the situation. It really frames it up

692
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: for me now, and I do like her a lot

693
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: more and I really feel for her, and I'm glad

694
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: that they have this friendship now, or this sort of

695
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: sort of mock friendship, you know what I mean. Yeah,

696
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: I love it, Yeah, yeah, yeah, because a friend, she's

697
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: very vulnerable and she gets very soft in those moments

698
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: and like somebody would like me. And I really felt

699
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: bad for her because you know what, you know, parents

700
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: are they scripted their kids. They do. They make them anxious,

701
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: and they make them, you know, living like like like

702
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: Kim said, like Dr Kim said, they live in the absolutes,

703
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: and it's all or nothing, all or nothing. You make

704
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: another great point there, and that even though it's very

705
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: subtle and such a small, small storyline, it does peel

706
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: back the curtain as to why they finally gave us

707
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: some some some some exposition here on what her life

708
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: is really like. I mean, they gave us a really

709
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: clear picture. That was a really clear picture. That's a

710
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: lot of information to spit out in a couple of paragraphs.

711
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: Dad came back because it was going to cost him.

712
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: You know, what is this about this man? He's he's

713
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: more interested in his money and his travels. And they

714
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: know they're never home, right, So she's going on, the

715
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: mother's going off with her boyfriend somewhere, and he's going

716
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: off with his girlfriend somewhere. All they care about was

717
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: his money. They don't give a damn about her. They

718
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: don't pay attention to Paris. So she turns all that

719
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: angst and anger and hurt and pain into studying and

720
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: studying and Harvard will be her new parents. And I

721
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: mean I thought for sure she got a D on

722
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: that country test, and I just thought there was all

723
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: of branch being handed out, you know that, Like she

724
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: really threw Rory the olive branch by taking taking the

725
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: pressure off the bean, and then Rory does it and

726
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: return by saying, hey, you want to spend the night,

727
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: like that's what friends do. Oh yeah, she did her

728
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: so that she said she did her a solid, and hey,

729
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: that's what a friend would do. And why would I

730
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: like she said, I mean, why would you ever want

731
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: to help me out? I mean that's out of character

732
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: for Paris. If anything, Paris would help Dean drive the

733
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: knife in deeper and twisted a little bit, right, Yeah, yeah,

734
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's not it's you know, it's it's it's

735
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: not it's it's it's not it is within the realm

736
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: of possibility that Paris. I mean, that's her behavior, though

737
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: there are patterns. Yeah, So do you think that she

738
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: did this because she's changing or that she is like

739
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: this is my favorite freebody? This this show should have

740
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: been called Everybody Wants Rory, you know, I mean the

741
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: series should have been Everybody Wants Rory or Everybody Loves Rory,

742
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: like Everybody loves Raymond. I mean, it's like she's the

743
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: most love. She's an incredibly lovable character. And now it's

744
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: beginning for me. It's it's becoming clear that this is

745
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: this is her show. When it's her show, it's her show.

746
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: This is really a show. It's not so much laurelized show.

747
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: It's her show. It's it's and maybe And it jumps

748
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: back and forth, doesn't it. It focuses on in some episodes.

749
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: In other episodes the focus becomes the kid world, So

750
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: it's it's going back and forth. There was a time

751
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: when it was really moralized show, you know, like all

752
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: through the Max stuff, and you know the way, is

753
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: he still at Chilton Max? Is he still teaching there.

754
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: Did he leave? That's a great question. I don't know,

755
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: because he didn't go. Did he did he go somewhere?

756
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: Can we can we find I don't think that we

757
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: know of. And then I thought, oh, where is he?

758
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: Just is he just like you know, the uncle you

759
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 1: don't talk about. I mean, it's like, all of a sudden,

760
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: he's like he doesn't Yeah, I think he's the uncle

761
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: you don't talk about, because we did. We've seen him

762
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: post breakup, and you know, in brief moments. I'm just

763
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: assuming they just there was nowhere else to go with him.

764
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean, was he was he assassinated? What happened? Where

765
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: is Max? He's never mentioned anymore. He's like he's not

766
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: even part of the show. And he was such a

767
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: big part of the show. He's not even referred to.

768
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: I agree. I have one beef with this episode. Do

769
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: you want to hear it? Do you want to take

770
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: a break and then come back for it? I look,

771
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm always needed to tell down. Yeah, let's do it. Uh,

772
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: all right, kids, We're gonna take a little break. Aim.

773
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: He's got more surprises for us when we come back,

774
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: So we'll be back after these words, all right, everybody,

775
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: We're back, Amy, what do you have? I just do

776
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: not understand how a diner could be open during all

777
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: that construction. And I do not understand how how how

778
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: like like rufe fell into those people's food and all

779
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: you did was offered them a beau. Listen, listen. That's

780
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 1: small town USA. Okay. People don't sue. They're not litigious people.

781
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: They come together as a community. And Luke's cooking and

782
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: his food and his vibe and his atmosphere are just

783
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: that powerful. That's a testament to Luke's and there just

784
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: what he is. Man, you know, that's it. That was hilarious.

785
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: There's so much feeling falling in everyone coffee and eggs,

786
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: and it did that made me more uncomfortable than anything.

787
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: I was like, oh god, oh god. I think it

788
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: was funny and it really shows you how, uh you know,

789
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: how out of reality, how lifted from reality the show is,

790
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: because that's not going to happen anywhere in the world ever.

791
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: Possible but not probable, probable but not possible. It doesn't

792
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: fall into either category. So you're right to point that out.

793
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: I was expecting Taylor to come and shut it down. Yeah,

794
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: I just I just Oh, it's a show that doesn't

795
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: take itself that seriously. When it's not taking itself that seriously.

796
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: When it takes itself seriously, it really takes itself. So

797
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: there again, it's a little confusing at times, and I'm

798
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: sure for the critics it was a little confusing, like

799
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: how could this scene be happening? It's completely unreal, and

800
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: then there's this amazing dramatic scene and then these amazing,

801
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: amazing comedic moments, So what the hell kind of a

802
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: show is it? Right? They couldn't put their finger on

803
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: it right, they didn't know how to categorize it. I

804
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: think that hurt the show. That's just my opinion. It's one,

805
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: it's wonderful to watch, and it's it's kind of experimental almost.

806
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: I mean it's almost like, I mean I don't want to,

807
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, go this far, but it's almost like something like, uh,

808
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, it's it's it's how do

809
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: people refer to it? It's very creative, I think, you

810
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: know what show I think kind of and I'm not

811
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: saying they took it from Gilmore Girls, but Ship's Creek

812
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: has some elements of that where you really are like

813
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: this isn't actually going to happen, but it's so entertaining

814
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: and fun to watch. And then there's other moments where

815
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: you're like, oh yeah, it's totally real. But I think

816
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: I think anytime you can sprinkle in some absurdity, it

817
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: really makes it special. That that's kind of the special

818
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: magic of it. You know that this could happen, and

819
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: it just it sets up the world right where all

820
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: of these things are possible. So it's it's kind of

821
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: a nice touch, I thought. Speaking of absurdity, we have

822
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: a small little game for you for me. We yeah,

823
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: we are going to read deal Riley and Daniel ten

824
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: maybe five ten. I don't remember the lipstick lipstick names,

825
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: and we want to know if you think they are

826
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: real lipstick names or fake lipstick names. This is just okay,

827
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: go ahead. I'm not going to enjoy this. Go ahead.

828
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give everyone all their parents are warning in

829
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: the car right now, you have the child in your car.

830
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: Mute this next five minutes. It's all in honor of Vicious.

831
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: I think it's only gonna take him game minute, next minute. Okay,

832
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: First one from Too Face Cosmetics, Melted Chihuahua real or

833
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: fake that can't be real. It is real. That's Next

834
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: one Jeffrey Star Cosmetics. Pain is pleasure. God, I'm in

835
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: pain right now. Um, I don't know. Probably real it's real. Okay.

836
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: Next one deceased real estate. Let's just say real, it's real.

837
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: Next one dead President's real or fake. That's got to

838
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: be fake. That's real. Nice nice, ivy forest green type color.

839
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: Um okay. Two more drug lord real or fake. I'm

840
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: gonna say real, it's real. Okay. Last one sensor sensor

841
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: sensor super orgasm. Um, I'm gonna say it's real. It's real. Real. Sorry, kids,

842
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: good games. You know you don't know. I love this episode.

843
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: Why there's this has been one of the most interesting

844
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: conversations we've ever had in however many episodes we've done. This,

845
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: this episode really was like stirred me up, you know

846
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I loved it, but it also

847
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, why did that happen? And why did

848
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: that happen? And whoa, this is major that's just happening

849
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: with Dean and just do you know why it's surgeon?

850
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: Because there was more drama, pure drama in this episode

851
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: on both storyline to the kiddies and the adults then,

852
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: and usually when they you know, the the norm for

853
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: this show is to have dramedy, they combine it right,

854
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 1: so it's like if it's a if you know, usually

855
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: lauralize really funny with the quippy stuff against her mom,

856
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: but it's set up better. This wasn't funny, you know.

857
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: I know they were going for funny in the beginning

858
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: with the with the Laurel, you know, but she just

859
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: came off as Brady. So it wasn't It wasn't enjoyable

860
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: for me, and I think they missed the mark a

861
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: little bit on that. Um. I'm sure a lot of

862
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: people enjoyed it, and if I go back and watch

863
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: it again, maybe I'll enjoy it. But I just thought, wow,

864
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna this is how we're gonna start off. Well,

865
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: you know, that's an interesting idea. You know. I would

866
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: be curious from time to time, maybe a couple of

867
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: these episodes where you were really something a bug you.

868
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: I would love to hear what you think when you

869
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 1: watch it again. You want me to watch it again?

870
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: Uh no, you don't have to now. But but it's

871
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: just you make an interesting point, because I do think

872
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: there's so much to these episodes that when you watch

873
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: it your third fourth, for some people their eleventh times,

874
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: you do see it. Yeah, I don't know. I mean

875
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: with Virginie's I think it's always better. Those are the

876
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: impressions that I got. I'm not saying that they're correct

877
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: or they're that's the way everybody should feel. This is

878
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: way I feel, you know what I felt. I love

879
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: the Dean and Jeff stuff sort of coming to a head.

880
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: And obviously for me, the fact that Rory lied multiple times,

881
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: she knows something that's going on, and then at the

882
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: end we just see her, you know, flirting, I guess

883
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: would be the way to describe her conversation with Jeff.

884
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: It's a dinner, they're flirting. They there's a moat around

885
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: those two, Laura Lane and Rory. There's a there's a

886
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: very wide moat, and people keep trying to breach that moat.

887
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: And Dean has done it. M but now he's he's

888
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: going to get asked to getting this little dinging go away. Um.

889
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: And I think Jesse is you know, storming the port

890
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: call us as well. Um. And it's just you know,

891
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 1: Rory is a busy girl. She's she's studying, she wants

892
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: to go to the Ivy League. She wants to go

893
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: to Harvard, and you know she's there's a single parent there,

894
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: so there's more at home things for Rory to have

895
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: to do, um other than studying, right, Um, So I

896
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just it's just I don't know what

897
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say here. Well, we'll edit all this

898
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 1: out because I'm I'm kind of no. I think what

899
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: you're saying is really interesting. You're saying, like, yeah, it's

900
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: Jesse's is time is coming and we can see it.

901
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: It's like, how is it a better show? Is it

902
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: a better show when the kitty storyline is is is

903
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: supporting the adult storyline, the Lorelie relationships and the lower

904
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: Lie entanglements and the Lorelie issues with Like, is it

905
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 1: a more powerful drama if it's Emily, Richard, Laurel, Rory

906
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: and then that some luky stuff for Max stuff or whatever,

907
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: and then they do a little kitty stuff too to

908
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: support all of that. So when Emily, when you know,

909
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: they take Emily out of her house, Richard isn't there,

910
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: which and Richard really was there, wasn't he? I mean,

911
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: Richard was in this episode at the end when when

912
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: Emily popped, you know, because this purely could be a

913
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: kiddy show. It could have been just a kiddy show, right,

914
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: But I liked it more that we had that other

915
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: storyline too. I think it's right, but you don't think

916
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: this could have gotten ratings if it was just a

917
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: show about you know, let's say, let's just call it

918
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: Rory Rory show, and she's got this mom and just

919
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: got these other storylines. But but then it's like, you

920
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: don't think the c You don't think the c W

921
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 1: could have made that fly with all these beautiful looking

922
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: kids and stars Hollow and then all and then all

923
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: of the other characters, you know, the Laureli, Luke, everybody,

924
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: all these other characters are just sort of supporting characters.

925
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: They're not leading characters. But then it just wouldn't be

926
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: the special show that it is. It's like, yeah, that

927
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: that could have been something, and the c W have

928
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: plenty of those. But I need to me ultimately, as

929
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: much as Rory is so important, this show is Luke,

930
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: Luke and Laurel. To me, it just I was gonna say,

931
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: dare say it, Rory isn't my favorite character. I'm gonna

932
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: get a lot of hate, but Emily is the shining

933
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: star for me. See for me, I'm Laura Lize till

934
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: the day I die. I love her so much. But

935
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: what I think is so cool is, like you said

936
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: the fifty, Like, when I was younger and watched this,

937
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: I love drawing, And now as I'm rewatching it, I'm

938
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: leaning more towards Loral. So I feel like that's why

939
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: it's maybe span so long, is like each phase of

940
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: life you get to relate to a different female in

941
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: the Gilmware Girls. H yeah, that's a that's a really

942
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: great point because I was older when I started it,

943
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: and so I've just been always lower Lie. But it's just,

944
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: isn't It really just shows us with the older characters,

945
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: how jaded people become and so set in their ways,

946
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: and then you've got this really fresh faced, innocent, young,

947
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: brilliant girl who justice like kind of open to anything,

948
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, and it's just it's really it's a really

949
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: nice reprieve from all of the drama created by all

950
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: of these people who were just so setting their ways.

951
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: And there and there's social classes and there's clashing and

952
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: there's planking, and you go back to Rory and Rory

953
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: is really the piece of this show. She's the peaceful,

954
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: kind of still center of the show in my opinion,

955
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: because no matter how much drama she gets involved in,

956
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: she never seems to lose herself. You know, she's she's

957
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: solf because she doesn't know how else. She's genuine. She's

958
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: a genuine person. But I I think I could watch

959
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: an episode without Rory, Like, I can't this for me.

960
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to see it without Laura. Like if

961
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: if Rory, I don't know, let's say alexis how to

962
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: tell me ache one day and couldn't work, I could

963
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: still enjoy the episode, you know, I could. I do

964
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: think I could. I could enjoy. To me, this is

965
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: Lauren Graham show, this is Laura Live and and to me,

966
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: there's no show without Luke nothing. So there you go, Yeah, yeah,

967
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,959
Speaker 1: I think it is Laurence show. I think it would

968
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: be weird without Rory. I think it's both their shows.

969
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, it does tend to go

970
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: back and forth, and the drama does tend to become

971
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: a little more pure in some places with less of

972
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: a setup for humor. So you know, it goes from

973
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: drama ney to comedy to drama to absurdity all in

974
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: one episode, you know, and it's it's kind of wonderful.

975
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: It really is. You know. It just certainly keeps you

976
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: on your toes. You know, you can't really put it

977
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: into a category, which I think. Oh, I won't even

978
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: go there again. I'm not gonna go there again. I

979
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: don't want to get the emails. Um, but Riley, go ahead.

980
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: First of all, I love when Paris is talking about

981
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: the macaroni and cheese, because macaroni chee cheese is just

982
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: so special. But she said, do you have a twenty

983
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: for our pharmacy just in case I have an allergic

984
00:59:53,440 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: reaction to something? M hmm um, Daniel, okay. Mine is

985
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: from Rory to Dean after they made out. She says, well,

986
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: your lung capacity has certainly improved. Yeah, um, Amy, what

987
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: about you dishes trawlap dirty hoore was taken. That was

988
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: one of my favorite I would say that was probably

989
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: my winner. Um okay, you gotta help me with this

990
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: favorite line. Thing. Paris said something in reference to Rory's

991
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: pajamas about entertaining Mr Peanut. Right, Oh yeah, yah, I

992
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: thought that was particularly funny. Yeah. I also loved those

993
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: that seg with segways so well in this fashion. I

994
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: loved the Planters pajamas. I loved Jesse's button down shirt

995
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: with the flag that navy blue. One did anyone else

996
01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: favorite fer moments? Oh? Favorite Lourla was wearing a shirt

997
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: that says yoga kills amazing, amazing. Gosh, I don't know

998
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: that I have any favorite fashion moments. Um. I really

999
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: liked Luke's flannel. I thought it was what an original,

1000
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: surprising thing really should I don't know what they're thinking. Oh,

1001
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: I have one more favorite line before we go, when

1002
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: Paris was at the door and she says, there's is

1003
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: there going to be some hot knitting going on Paris?

1004
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: This is a great episode for Paris. It really really was,

1005
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: and and it and it. You know, it brought me

1006
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: into her camp. Now I'm fully supportive of of Paris,

1007
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: and because then now I know what her plate has been,

1008
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: what she faces in the future, because this just isn't

1009
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: gonna get resolved overnight. It's this is This is a lingering,

1010
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: years long process for Paris. So I feel bad for her.

1011
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: So I like her. I'm glad she's friends with Rory.

1012
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: I thought this was a very very strong episode for

1013
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: for Eliza Um. And you know the thing I'll never

1014
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: forget is is is Kelly Bishops acting When she was

1015
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: dancing with that with how Lyndon and the and the

1016
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: the push pull, the struggle, she was having morally with

1017
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: it and you could see it etched all over her face,

1018
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: especially during the slow dance. I mean she was having

1019
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: a blast uh in the fast song. But my god, oh,

1020
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: you know what the best you know, the best line

1021
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: and the whole thing, because those are real people that

1022
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: were in the band, the drummer and the piano player.

1023
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: Those are real people there. They're a fixture. They've been

1024
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: at this bar, this classic bar in Hollywood for fifty years.

1025
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: They were a long long Yes, yes, they are the

1026
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: house band. I even think it's their restaurant. I should know,

1027
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: you know, you know in Swingers, you know that movie

1028
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: Swingers with Vince Vaughn and Jon Fabrow, They go into

1029
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: that same bar and those people are in that movie.

1030
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: What was the name of that bar? It's a very

1031
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: famous bar in Hollywood, and I don't I don't know what.

1032
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what the name

1033
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: of it is. But I used to go there, you know,

1034
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: and when she says, can we can we bribe you,

1035
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: she's loads right, no, yes, good. But he the drummer,

1036
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: the second the part of the part of that band,

1037
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: the husband and wife team, um, who play all the

1038
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: classic songs there. His line was, and this one and

1039
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: here is another one from the chairman of the board.

1040
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: And I don't mean b O R E. D. I

1041
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: just went and he and it was and it was

1042
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: like the guy's not an actor, but he delivered it

1043
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: pretty good. But it was for me. It was just

1044
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: like one of these he told a bad joke really

1045
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: well or or a good joke really poorly, and it

1046
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: just worked on every level for me. And I just

1047
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Speaker 1: blurted out laughing. I was like, good for you, man,

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Speaker 1: a good line anyway, silly joke, but good for him?

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Speaker 1: Was it? The three clubs? The three clubs? The name

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Speaker 1: of the bar. I don't think that's the name of

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Speaker 1: the bar. It's a classic Hollywood bar. It was featured. No, No,

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Speaker 1: it's it's further. It's deeper into Hollywood than that. It's past,

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Speaker 1: it's it's downside. You gotta go way past Sunset Pole.

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Speaker 1: I mean on Sunset you gotta go way past Chatau Riley,

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Speaker 1: what episode are we watching now? It's like it's like

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's like around Fine Street. It's down

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Speaker 1: there even maybe further. Next up we have episode seventeen,

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Speaker 1: Dead Uncles and Vegetables, Dead Uncles and Vegetables, and then

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Speaker 1: we're going to find out the names. Yes we are,

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Speaker 1: because that is a that's where they play. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they still play there, but and I don't

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Speaker 1: even know if the bar exists. But anyway, Um, all right, everybody,

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Speaker 1: that was a spirited, spirited conversation, wasn't There's a lot

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Speaker 1: to unpack on that one. Anyway, good job, thanks for

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Speaker 1: unloading everybody. Uh Um, you are the best fans on

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Speaker 1: the planet and we really really appreciate it. We're having

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Speaker 1: a blast doing this. Uh And I think we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be around for a couple more weeks at least, I think, right,

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Speaker 1: what do you think? A couple more weeks, a couple

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Speaker 1: more years. Tune in later this week for pop culture

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