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Speaker 1: which I'm all about. They haven't done that every year,

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Speaker 2: Why are you looking at me weird?

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Speaker 3: Do they have to plan that ahead of time? Because

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Speaker 3: that might be a colossal fail, like the Twins in

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Speaker 3: the Phillies playing in the Field of Dreams game, Like

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Speaker 2: They do have to plan that ahead.

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Speaker 1: The opener probably not as much a Field of Dreams game,

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Speaker 2: Would you agree now?

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Speaker 4: The opener I don't like? I mean what no? I like?

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Speaker 5: I'm a traditionalist when it comes out. I think Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: But it's changed.

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Speaker 4: I get it, it's changed, but I just think that

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Speaker 5: A traditional opening day. I think that it should be Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: It was like that for years and years, and that's

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Speaker 5: fine if you want to do the games. I get

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Speaker 5: so I get it. And then they get the cross

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 5: I like the one off games, meaning the Field of

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Speaker 5: the Field of Dreams for me, it should have been

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Speaker 4: Sorry. The White Sox game was.

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Speaker 5: So good, and the Yankees game was so good, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it just the one year was really cool.

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Speaker 5: It was like when we did for Bragg. It was

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Speaker 5: certain things that should only be done once. The Little

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Speaker 1: I mean, okay, fine, visually it looks cool, so for

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Speaker 1: And I do think that you have to sometimes starve

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Speaker 1: a little more on this side about it. But let's

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Speaker 1: get to Ken. Time to hit the inside scoop with

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Speaker 1: FT senior insider Ken Rose and thal Ken. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with Pete Crowe Armstrong, who was having talks apparently about

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Speaker 1: a year ago with the Cubs and they have finally

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Speaker 2: What do you know?

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Speaker 6: We know that they have a deal and that it's

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Speaker 7: I would think today or tomorrow. Now.

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Speaker 6: I don't know the number yet, don't know the years,

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Speaker 6: don't know the dollars, and I've been thinking about this

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Speaker 6: a guest because this is an unusual player. Pkrow Armstrong's

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Speaker 6: value right now is heavily tied up in his defense. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: much lesser offensive performance in the second half. But I

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Speaker 6: don't know about escalators, but ways for him if he

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Speaker 6: I don't know what he would be valued at. In

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Speaker 6: the guarantee here, he has four arbitration years and another

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Speaker 6: Then I'm sure there are some free agent years covered too,

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Speaker 4: What is this?

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Speaker 3: What is this process for PCA in the sense of

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Speaker 3: where's the where where's that process for him? For his

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Speaker 6: Sure they look at other one plus deals and even

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Speaker 6: deals for players with less than one year of service.

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Speaker 6: Remember the Julio Rodriguez deal, very unusual, that was two

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Speaker 6: that point even a year of service. Now there are escalators,

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Speaker 6: There are all kinds of things in that deal that

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Speaker 7: Hundred and thirty million.

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Speaker 6: I would expect PCA is going to be somewhere in

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Speaker 6: I'm right about that, because again, he has a lot

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Speaker 6: And ultimately the question is what kind of offensive player

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Speaker 6: an interesting player, a fascinating player in many ways, and

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Speaker 6: this obviously is a great commitment by the Cubs and

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Speaker 7: The only question now is how much it is valued at.

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Speaker 5: Well, why is I don't understand why both said this

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Speaker 6: An unusual player.

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Speaker 7: AJ, you're not listening to me.

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Speaker 6: He is different because his value is in many ways

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Speaker 7: Right now, if you look at him, yes.

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Speaker 6: Good offensive player first half, not so good second half,

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Speaker 1: No, hey, it might be time to have a heart

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Speaker 3: Is this is this signifying Obviously they signed Bregman and

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Speaker 6: The reason you signed players to extensions is because you

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Speaker 1: Hey, Ken, let's go to the Braves Spencer Strider on

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Speaker 2: Braves Country is freaking out. Should they be yes?

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Speaker 6: And Streider is an oblique that generally takes time, and

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Speaker 6: of course, to Tommy John and with the Braves, they

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Speaker 3: Sure, you wrote in your article about the flames and

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Speaker 4: Now who do we go to. We haven't even had

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Speaker 6: Right and we're looking at pictures also who have health

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Speaker 6: So they're not in that position anymore in my opinion, Eric,

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Speaker 6: The real question is going forward, do they want to

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Speaker 6: and Profar is fifteen million the Deadliney's still fifteen million

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Speaker 6: They can wait and wait and just see how it

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Speaker 7: Being not so good. And that's kind of where they

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Speaker 1: That's my point, Ken, I mean, I think they'll be okay.

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Speaker 1: Their offense should be strong, but what if they start poorly?

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Speaker 1: It happened last year. Now, do we think they're going

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Speaker 7: Right now where, in my view it's perilous.

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Speaker 6: Maybe they view it differently because they see these guys

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Speaker 1: Let's finish with this topic call ups s an options,

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Speaker 1: So let's go on the positive side first. From some

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Speaker 7: Kevin McGonagall is one.

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Speaker 3: Is there any indication with McGonagall if he will bump

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Speaker 6: I'm not exactly sure how they're going to play this Eric,

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Speaker 7: I don't expect.

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Speaker 6: They're giving up on Cole Keith. And you don't have

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Speaker 2: Ken I want to finish with this.

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Speaker 1: We of course talk CBA quite often, but I don't

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Speaker 2: Most of these guys are getting called out.

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Speaker 1: Yes, as much as the games as possible, as much

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Speaker 1: appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you later this week.

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Speaker 1: Sounds good, guys, And later this week, of course, another

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Speaker 1: day of the season on Thursday, part of the FT Network,

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Speaker 1: taking your questions. The show is live on Thursdays and

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Speaker 2: Well, so look out for that.

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Speaker 1: Hey, the Cubs get the job done with Pete Crow

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Speaker 1: But PCA is going to be a Cub for a

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Speaker 1: us an idea on money, but we don't know for

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Speaker 1: sure exactly what it looks like. He said he rejected

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Speaker 1: the Cubs extension offer of a year ago, and now

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Speaker 1: they're on a one hundred mili plus contract extension. And

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Speaker 1: he was offered sixty six million dollars last spring. He

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Speaker 1: should double or more than double the amount with this

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Speaker 1: new deal. Remember he was off to a blazing start

446
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Speaker 1: last year, so last spring. If the Cubs are making

447
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Speaker 1: him an offer, AJ, it's a very different PCA.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think this is great. I think it's all right.

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Speaker 5: I think it's great for both parties. I'm glad they

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Speaker 5: did this, and I don't know, I mean, I'm happy

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Speaker 5: for PCA.

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Speaker 4: I love that guy.

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Speaker 5: I think he's great for the game and good for

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Speaker 5: the Cubs for recognizing that he is an unusual fucking player,

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Speaker 5: and he will good for him.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, I think if you're sitting there

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Speaker 3: and you go, what is you know what Ken said?

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Speaker 3: Oh man, you know how he's unusual, Like he has

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Speaker 3: a six war, a six war, You're like, Okay, I'll

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Speaker 3: definitely take this. I'll definitely take this guy. Give him

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Speaker 3: an extension, and we'll get tons of value as a team.

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Speaker 3: But if you look into the offensive portion of it,

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Speaker 3: you say, Okay, his chase percentage, his lack of walks,

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Speaker 3: how's that going to age? As he ages? To me,

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Speaker 3: if you're the Cubs, you just go you just go in.

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Speaker 3: You just go in like and and say we have

467
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Speaker 3: this value. He's a very like fans connect with this

468
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Speaker 3: guy like he plays with his hair on fire. I

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Speaker 3: think there's I think there's an opportunity here to strike

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Speaker 3: while the iron's hot, even if it's not like the

471
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Speaker 3: most team friendly deal ever. I don't think every extension

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Speaker 3: before arbitration, before free agency needs to be team friendly.

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Speaker 3: To me, I think he adds a lot of value

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Speaker 3: to an organization that really hasn't gone out and paid

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Speaker 3: a lot of players. So I really like this and

476
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Speaker 3: his defense isn't going to age out till he's like

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Speaker 3: thirty two thirty three. So this is to me, this

478
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Speaker 3: was an easy one for the Cubs to get done.

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Speaker 1: You know, one topic that I saw brought up on

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Speaker 1: social media from the trolls and the haters was like, oh,

481
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Speaker 1: this could cause him to be complacent, and oh, this

482
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Speaker 1: could end up like a Michael Harris contract. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I get that Harris struggled in the first half of

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Speaker 1: last year, but the industry still thinks that he's a

485
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Speaker 1: very good player and provides surplus value. It might not

486
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Speaker 1: be as much as his rookie season when he was

487
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Speaker 1: a five win player, but it's kind of like a

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Speaker 1: three win player. And if you're putting wins against money,

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Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, what is it? Ten to

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Speaker 1: fifteen mil plus? Like he's going to be worth the

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Speaker 1: contract on defense and base running alone if he's an

492
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Speaker 1: average bat and the upside last year was what you're

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Speaker 1: MVP for the first couple months of the season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't understand why this is a surprise. I mean,

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Speaker 5: this is a great move for the Cubs and a

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Speaker 5: great move for PCA. A PCA turns into what they

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Speaker 5: think in Craig Council he thinks he can be a star.

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Speaker 5: Then this is a great move for both sides. I

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Speaker 5: don't understand why this was a thing. I mean, he made,

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Speaker 5: he bet on himself for a year. He made it

501
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Speaker 5: obviously almost probably double what he was going to get. Now,

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Speaker 5: people will tell you if they offer you a hundred million,

503
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Speaker 5: don't take it because you can make more. But listen,

504
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Speaker 5: if you're happy in a place, and he seems happy

505
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Speaker 5: in Chicago, he goes to all the stuff with Caleb Williams.

506
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Speaker 5: He's been at Bears games, he's been at Bulls games,

507
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Speaker 5: He's been at this and now Blackhawks games. He's been

508
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Speaker 5: doing all this stuff. Why would he not Why would

509
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Speaker 5: he not take this if it's a place for him

510
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Speaker 5: and his family and everything is happy and they treat

511
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Speaker 5: him right. And he already said that he loves Chicago

512
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Speaker 5: fans and that you know, others fans aren't as good

513
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Speaker 5: as Chicago fans, and great, this is a great move

514
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Speaker 5: for both sides because if he blows up like they

515
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Speaker 5: think he can, then this is going to be one

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Speaker 5: of those contracts they might look back and say, well, man,

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Speaker 5: we got a great deal, like a Ronald m'cunya or

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Speaker 5: a Ozzi Alby's or someone like that. So good for

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Speaker 5: both both sides.

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Speaker 3: This is good.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm happy. Obviously, I love Pca, I love

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Speaker 5: the emotion he plays with. And for the Cubs, this

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Speaker 5: is a smart move to get ahead of the curve

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Speaker 5: because they see it down the road. Whatever the numbers

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Speaker 5: are that he could make more, so they went to

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Speaker 5: with a number that he would accept.

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Speaker 3: I think everybody looks at the comps and I even

528
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Speaker 3: asked Ken about the comps of like getting this contract

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Speaker 3: to me, if you're an organization, what do you think

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Speaker 3: he's going to be. What do you think his ceiling

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Speaker 3: is going to be? People be like, well, he's never

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Speaker 3: going to be Ronald m'cunya. You're right, But how many

533
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Speaker 3: Ronald cunyas are there out there? And you know, this

534
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Speaker 3: is a guy who, admittedly people say, okay, he has flaws. Offensively,

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Speaker 3: he is a thirty thirty season I don't care what

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Speaker 3: half he had it in. If you can pencil in

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Speaker 3: thirty thirty for a guy and he has to do

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Speaker 3: it year after year to be like, oh, he's definitely

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Speaker 3: a guaranteed thirty thirty I promise you're paying twice the

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Speaker 3: amount they're gonna end up paying him if he is

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Speaker 3: a perennial thirty thirty batter. So to me, yes, there's

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Speaker 3: comps now, because that's how they do arbitration, that's how

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Speaker 3: they do pre arb stuff. But where do the Cubs

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Speaker 3: see him going in the length of the contract. Do

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Speaker 3: they see him being this type of player? Do they

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Speaker 3: see him being as good as you know, this center fielder.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's very few comps as far as who

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Speaker 3: is better than him defensively in center field.

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Speaker 1: Hey, shout out to seat geek as you're looking for

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Speaker 1: opening day tickets or opening weekend tickets. I'll get everyone

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Speaker 1: excited with a few games to look out for. You

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Speaker 1: guys know who Schemes is pitching against to start off

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Speaker 1: the season.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know who the Pirates play.

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Speaker 2: They're in Queens taking on the Mets Thursday afternoon. Yeah

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Speaker 2: that's a good one. Yeah, that should be a hot ticket.

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Speaker 1: People have been talking about Dodgers seats and how the

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Speaker 1: home openers pretty pricey. If you want a little discount,

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Speaker 1: it's at the bottom of the screen right now to

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Speaker 1: get yourself ten percent off. That's Gallon against Yamamoto in

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Speaker 1: that one, any others crats?

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Speaker 2: You know, you know who the Phillies are taken on

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Speaker 2: to start the year.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who the Phillies are taking on, but

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Speaker 3: I really didn't look past because it's not opening day.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to Wednesday. I'm going to San Francochio. Need

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Speaker 3: to see the Giants.

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Speaker 4: Need it?

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Speaker 1: There you go, Okay, they're playing the Phillies the Rangers.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that's Christopher Sanchez against Nathan y Valdi.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, plenty of awesome matchups, a lot of the

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Speaker 1: number one starters.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Google pitching on day one of the season.

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Speaker 2: Good question. I do not know.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard my uch about Jacob this spring training,

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Speaker 1: but I will look into that. And we have a

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Speaker 1: code for it on tea geek Territory ten ten percent

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Speaker 1: I have a comp I just came up with on

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Speaker 1: the fly, not for the players, but when you dive

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Speaker 1: into the contract and how deep into their MLB careers

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Speaker 1: they are. Julio Rodriguez last year had just shy have

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Speaker 1: a seven win season. I'm just going off the war

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Speaker 1: numbers for now on Baseball Reference six point eight, right,

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Speaker 1: and before that for Ish the year before in twenty four,

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Speaker 1: PCA had a six war and I think some could

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Speaker 1: make the case that the second half got really bad

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Speaker 1: swinging at everything. You would think that he'll get a

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Speaker 1: little more consistency in his career. Okay, different players, but

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Speaker 1: AJ in twenty it was either twenty two or twenty three.

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Speaker 1: He signed that massive extension after two hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: games in the big leagues. They often look at these

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Speaker 1: extensions and say, how far into your career are you?

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Speaker 1: Right now, PCA is actually further into his career. He's

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Speaker 1: two hundred ninety three games into his career. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: sound like he's going to get two hundred plus guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: And Julio signed for more years most likely, but he

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Speaker 1: got twelve years to ten and incentives club options. You know,

602
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Speaker 1: MVP finishes stuff like that. Not MVP, but top ten whatever.

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Speaker 1: His contract could be worth over four hundred seventy million

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Speaker 1: dollars over seventeen years. I think you could make a

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Speaker 1: case that the upside for Julio is a little bit higher,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's kind of close. So you look

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Speaker 1: at a contract from a few years ago, and Julio

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Speaker 1: got a lot more guaranteed money and upside. So again,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, for Cubs fans, you should be pretty pumped.

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Speaker 1: I think this is at most a market deal. It

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Speaker 1: could even be a bargain deal compared to other deals

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Speaker 1: at this length during this time period of how many

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Speaker 1: games you've played.

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Speaker 5: Well, we don't know the numbers, so how can we

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Speaker 5: I mean, what if it's five here is one hundred

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Speaker 5: and forty. I mean, we don't know the numbers, so

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Speaker 5: it's hard for us to say that it's a good

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Speaker 5: deal compared to this deal or not that deal. It

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Speaker 5: doesn't we don't know. So right now, listen, I'm just

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Speaker 5: happy that they come to an agreement. That should be

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Speaker 5: the point here, or not the actual numbers. Until we

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Speaker 5: know the numbers, we can't finalize and say well, Julio

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Speaker 5: got more, or this guy got more, this guy got

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Speaker 5: more or this or that.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, listen, they got a deal done,

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Speaker 4: so be happy. Cup fans.

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Speaker 5: You should be happy. This is a guy that loves

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Speaker 5: being in Chicago. He loves playing at Wrigley. He's really

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Speaker 5: great there. He embraces the fans, he embraces the city.

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Speaker 5: So everyone should be happy about this. We don't know

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Speaker 5: the number. Once we know the numbers, we can talk

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Speaker 5: about that, but right now we don't know. So I

633
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Speaker 5: sure I'm happy for PCA and I'm happy.

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Speaker 4: For the Cubs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously we'll let you know as soon as

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Speaker 1: we have it. Usually we get it pretty much right

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Speaker 1: away in tandem because if you hear the agreement, but

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Speaker 1: we don't know, so we'll.

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Speaker 2: Let you know.

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Speaker 1: One question from the crowd, Ryan in the YouTube chat said,

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Speaker 1: how much do you think Buxton and PCA talked about

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Speaker 1: his future during the WBC.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure it came up. I'm sure. I'm sure something

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Speaker 5: came up. I'm sure they talked about stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 5: you don't sit in a clubhouse for three weeks with

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Speaker 5: a guy and I talk about certain things. And I

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Speaker 5: don't know if the exact contracts came up, but I'm

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Speaker 5: sure some choices came up. And if they were talking

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Speaker 5: to PCA during it, I'm sure he went around and

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Speaker 5: asked guys that signed extensions. I would be the smart

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Speaker 5: thing to do if I was his agent, I tell

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Speaker 5: him to talk to Buxton and talk to other guys

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Speaker 5: Roman Anthony and guys that signed long term extensions.

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Speaker 4: It's the right thing to do.

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Speaker 1: Also, there's a big difference between Buckston's situation and PCA.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Cubs generally are going to give you

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Speaker 1: a chance. In my opinion, the Twins it's a little

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Speaker 1: tougher to trust. And you know, this has surfaced again

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Speaker 1: over the past week where people are talking about the

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Speaker 1: Angels and Mike Trout and how much did he know

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Speaker 1: about the direction of the franchise when he signed. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think it was still I think Otani was there

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Speaker 1: and they had, you know, shown some bigger signings in

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Speaker 1: the past. So did he really know it was going

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Speaker 1: to turn and into this? What do you think Kratz, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, I think he's been he I mean, if you're

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Speaker 3: just talking about Trout, I think he was in the

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Speaker 3: big leagues. I think some of the infrastructure stuff he

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Speaker 3: probably could have been sheltered from that. I think he

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Speaker 3: also liked la like he likes to win, but he

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Speaker 3: also likes La and the fact that they offered him

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Speaker 3: that deal right after I think it was right after

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Speaker 3: Harper signed his deal, and so it was like they

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Speaker 3: made him that much, you know, that much larger. And

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Speaker 3: I feel like probably at the time it was a

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Speaker 3: market it was a market thing where it was like, hey,

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Speaker 3: you know, we'll pay you what you would be worth.

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Speaker 4: And so I think he liked the deal. But how

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Speaker 4: much did he know? I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that. That's hard to say. Like, as

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Speaker 3: a big leader, you don't know how teams are treating

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Speaker 3: scouts in the minor league infrastructure, and you know, you

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Speaker 3: don't have a weight room that's an actual building, it's

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Speaker 3: just a tent in Big league spring training. Did Trout

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Speaker 3: even care about that kind of stuff at that point

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Speaker 3: in his career, I don't know. He'd never been with

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Speaker 3: any other organization.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For me, PCA is a diehard Cubs fan. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a good time to be a Cub right now. It

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Speaker 1: just makes too much sense on the look around you front,

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Speaker 1: and then if the money lines up, boom, there you go.

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Speaker 7: I like that.

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Speaker 2: I like that animation a lot. It's called Pressure Cooker.

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Speaker 1: It's a new segment and We're going to start with

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Speaker 1: some decisions that were made here at the end of camp.

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Speaker 2: Really, we're going to focus on the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: When you're this good and you're coming off back to

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Speaker 1: back titles, you do have tough decisions to make. We're

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Speaker 1: going to talk Rokie Sasaki, and then we are going

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Speaker 1: to talk Hasan Kim. So let's start with Roki. He

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Speaker 1: just pitched yesterday. He looked abysmal awful. It's spring training.

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Speaker 1: He's gone through a lot of ups and downs. He

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Speaker 1: was a savior for them to some extent in the

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Speaker 1: postseason as a bullpen guy.

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Speaker 2: But he walked in two runs.

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Speaker 1: As from Katie Wu who's at the game, did not

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Speaker 1: record now in the first inning, thirty pitches. Then he's

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Speaker 1: removed and spring games you can get removed. And then

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Speaker 1: he came back for the second inning, but she was

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Speaker 1: not encouraging for his first spring start, and Dave Roberts

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Speaker 1: said pregame he wanted to see Rokie in complete game

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Speaker 1: mode for the season. Then Maddie Lee, who was at

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Speaker 1: the game there too, reporting said he returned in the

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Speaker 1: second inning, exited again, no outs, zero hits, five runs,

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Speaker 1: six walks, two strikeouts, two hit by pitch in sixty

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Speaker 1: six pitches and recorded six outs. He is part of

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Speaker 1: the starting rotation to start the year. Should he be

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Speaker 1: or does it have to do with promises that were

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Speaker 1: made to him to recruit him.

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Speaker 5: He's a pitch better. I don't know what they said

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Speaker 5: to him, but he just needs a pitch better. He

723
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Speaker 5: needs to figure it out. And this is one of

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Speaker 5: the question marks about him, was his command and con

725
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Speaker 5: he's a two pitch guy and they said this and

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Speaker 5: if people don't swing in a split, this is why

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Speaker 5: he was effective in the bullpen because he could come

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Speaker 5: in and not save anything and you can go fastball

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Speaker 5: right to the split. And this is why he was

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Speaker 5: better in the bullpen than he's a starter. Maybe this

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Speaker 5: guy's just a bullpen guy. Maybe we just need to

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Speaker 5: figure that out.

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Speaker 2: Here's my question.

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Speaker 1: If you're the front office and you think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs anyway, and you can deal with two

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Speaker 1: or three clunky starts that then give you the evidence

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Speaker 1: to say you need to be optioned or moved to

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Speaker 1: the bullpen, is this the reat that you would take,

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Speaker 1: because I'll give you one caveat recruiting Japanese players is important.

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Speaker 1: It should be important to every team. It is very

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Speaker 1: important to the Dodgers. This was not a guy who

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Speaker 1: signed just for money. He signed for the team. If

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Speaker 1: they optioned him to start the season, does it set

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Speaker 1: a bad precedent for other players and agents representing those

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Speaker 1: players to sign with the Dodgers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but still he hasn't pitched well. You don't pitch well.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 5: If you don't pitch well and you don't play well,

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Speaker 5: you don't stay in the big leagues. Right, A crappy player,

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Speaker 5: you don't stay in the big leagues. Sorry, I mean

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Speaker 5: that's the way it is. If you're a good player,

752
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Speaker 5: then you stay in the major leagues for a long

753
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Speaker 5: time because you can because you're good. But if you're not,

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Speaker 5: you go up and down and up and down and

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Speaker 5: up and down. Right, Okay, he hasn't been good. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: he hasn't been good. Sorry, he hasn't Maybe he's a

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Speaker 5: booming guy. And by the way, like it's the same thing, right,

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Speaker 5: Dylan Cruz we just talked about he hasn't been good.

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Speaker 5: Guess where he is Triple A. Connor Griffin hasn't been

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Speaker 5: given a shot at the big leagues yet, so we

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Speaker 5: don't know what he's gonna be. Right, some fool in

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Speaker 5: the chat is saying Christian Campbell makes a hundred million

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Speaker 5: He didn't sign a hundred million dollars contract. He also

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Speaker 5: started the season in the Big league exact, didn't play well,

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Speaker 5: and now he's in Triple A and now they're trying

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Speaker 5: to find a position for him.

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Speaker 4: Right, So, if you're good, you stay.

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Speaker 5: If you're not good, guess what happens you don't stay there,

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Speaker 5: You go up and down, or you go down and

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Speaker 5: hope they hope you can.

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Speaker 4: Get you back.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Christian Campbell a different story. They gave him runway

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Speaker 1: and then it didn't work out. So if we're talking

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Speaker 1: about that compared to Connor Griffin would give the guy

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Speaker 1: runway first and then if he didn't perform, you would

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Speaker 1: send him down.

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Speaker 2: Regular season.

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Speaker 1: So regular season here, kratz Roki Sasaki coming off a

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Speaker 1: brutal performance. He has looked lost often in spring training.

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Speaker 1: What would you have done if you're the Dodgers considering

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Speaker 1: all factors here, including long term recruitment of players like him.

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Speaker 3: That's something that I think the Dodgers have played an incredible,

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Speaker 3: incredibly well the long term game they've they've been setting

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Speaker 3: up for this success for years when they were recruiting

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Speaker 3: Shoho Tani before he went to the Angels, when they

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Speaker 3: were recruiting when they were changing different things in the

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Speaker 3: minor leagues, like, they played the long game really well.

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Speaker 3: So to say that wasn't discussed, I would have a

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Speaker 3: hard time believing it wasn't discussed, because they know what

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Speaker 3: that looks like. It's the same way when American guys

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Speaker 3: go over to Japan and play. If you strike out

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Speaker 3: for your first two weeks of the season, when you're

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Speaker 3: over in Japan trying to make the adjustment, they send

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Speaker 3: you to Triple A. Well, now all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: that player has other has an agent who has other

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Speaker 3: players that they want to recruit over there. It is

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Speaker 3: definitely a thing vice versa coming from Japan and over

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Speaker 3: like the Dodgers want the next pitching star, and if

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Speaker 3: they feel like if an agent or somebody feels like

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Speaker 3: they're treated a certain way, then you know what, hey,

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Speaker 3: we're you know, maybe maybe we'll look to another team.

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Speaker 3: Because it clearly if that's the case. It was a

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Speaker 3: pre pre free agency deal or pre determined deal which

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Speaker 3: was supposed to be open to all thirty teams when reality,

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Speaker 3: the Dodgers had it. But to me, I said it

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Speaker 3: when they first signed him. This guy could get sent

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Speaker 3: to Triple A and that's okay. It doesn't mean he's

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Speaker 3: not a good player. It doesn't mean that the Dodgers

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Speaker 3: made a mistake or that he should have stayed in Japan. No,

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Speaker 3: it's okay to work on some things if it's not

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Speaker 3: going well in the big leagues. He should have been

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Speaker 3: in the big leage right out of the gate. I

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Speaker 3: get that he did it. Now you're seeing some deficiencies.

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Speaker 3: Go to a place where it's not big league games

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Speaker 3: and work on those things. And I think pitching in

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Speaker 3: Triple A is not that big a deal for him

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Speaker 3: because you saw what happened when he went down there

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Speaker 3: during his rehab assignment last year, and then he came

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Speaker 3: back and he shortened his stride length or length in

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Speaker 3: the stride length, I'm not one hundred percent sure what

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Speaker 3: it was, and he had success.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got roasted when you said that initially when

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Speaker 1: he signed, but you were right. We got to step

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Speaker 1: aside bank or break for the TV crowd and then

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Speaker 2: That's right. Oh yeah, you'll be in k C for it.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, then you're just gonna ask.

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Speaker 1: All right, first three games in Atlanta, we were clearing

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Speaker 1: get to the Hesse on Kim conversation. So this is

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Speaker 1: kind of the opposite of Rokie. He looks like production

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Speaker 1: wise in the spring he earned it, but they want

848
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Speaker 1: to see him get more frequent abs in the minor league,

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Speaker 1: so they gave the spot to Alex Freeland.

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Speaker 2: Despite Kim hitting four oh seven in spring training.

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Speaker 1: He's got to be pretty pissed and might be regretting

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Speaker 1: that he signed there.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he's regretting it. But he got paid

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Speaker 5: a little bit too, so I don't think. I don't

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Speaker 5: think he's regretting it. I think the Dodgers see a

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Speaker 5: possibility where later on, like they used him last year,

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Speaker 5: they need him to be sharp, and if he sits

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Speaker 5: on the bench, he's not going to be sharp again.

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Speaker 5: This is if you're on a certain team and they

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Speaker 5: have nine players and you're a bench guy, you might never.

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Speaker 4: Get to play.

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Speaker 5: If you play for the Braves and all nine players

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Speaker 5: a couple of years ago play one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 5: eight games, you don't get in the game a whole lot.

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Speaker 5: And if you're not good enough to be a starter,

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Speaker 5: then a you either need to get traded or guess

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Speaker 5: what you do, you go to Triple A. It's again,

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Speaker 5: if you're not good enough, you're not there, and if

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Speaker 5: you're good enough, you're there, and if you're not good enough,

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Speaker 5: you go down. It's a really hard job. Playing baseball

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00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 5: is really hard, okay, and so the people that can

872
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 5: do it for a long time should be respected and

873
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 5: look at it because it's a really hard job to do.

874
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: He signed for three years twelve and a half mil

875
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: a year ago, and then there's club options on there too,

876
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: so that was probably the best money that he got.

877
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: And he just won a ring, already.

878
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 5: Got some maybes last year. You got to pinch around

879
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 5: a bunch of times. He's really fast.

880
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 4: That's cool.

881
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if he wants to play every day, this

882
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: is a tough team to crack right now.

883
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: Guys will get hurt. He'll come up.

884
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 5: That's why they need him ready though, because if let's

885
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 5: say somebody goes down, they need him ready to play

886
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 5: and step up to play every day.

887
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 4: And that's why he's in Triple A.

888
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Edmund's coming back. I think in two months. The

889
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: thing was Snell.

890
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's slap tomorrow.

891
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: We will be talking about regular season baseball beginning at night.

892
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: Yankees and Giants were excited for that. It's going to

893
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: be fantastic. I watched probably less Spring training this year

894
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: than maybe ever in my life because of the World

895
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: Baseball Classic, and I don't.

896
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: Regret it, because sometimes.

897
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: I'd watch and I'm like, I don't want to buy

898
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: too much into what I'm seeing, So highlights were a

899
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: better route for me on that front. But the real

900
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: games I'm watching Rob Freeman pitching, ninj is going to

901
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: join us. We always enjoy combos with him. Hot sheets

902
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: coming up. I think this is the perfect day for

903
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: hot sheet. We just learned about Kevin McGonagall and good

904
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,479
Speaker 1: for the Tigers on this one. Remember you were sitting

905
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: next to the hinch and you were like, come on,

906
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: and he was like, no, we're gonna wait until almost

907
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: the finish line. They waited until basically as late as

908
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: you could go here. I mean, it's two days before

909
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: their season starts.

910
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 5: For McGonagall, they already told them, I think you think so,

911
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 5: there's no way you can't do that to people.

912
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 4: You have to let him know a little bit of time,

913
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 4: give them a little bit of time

914
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: To pack, right, Ahi, people, we will see you tomorrow

915
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: for game Day.