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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to day ten of Bill's training camp here at

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Speaker 2: Saint John Fisher. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on

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Speaker 2: a Monday, and plenty of stuff going on here as

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Speaker 2: we are in the final days of practice out here

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Speaker 2: at training camp. We're on location at Saint John Fisher.

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Speaker 3: Neck deep in stuff going on.

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Speaker 2: By the Thursday day is the final day out here.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow's an off day, so two more practice days here

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Speaker 2: at Saint John Fisher.

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Speaker 3: Just back two more tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: We will be back in studio tomorrow, back at One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Drive for One Bill's Live. So thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: As we said, day ten of training camp, pads were

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Speaker 2: back on. They were on yesterday's for Sunday session for

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Speaker 2: the second straight day, though James Cook not participating. He

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Speaker 2: was in attendance, but you know, wearing warm up clothes

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Speaker 2: and not practicing by choice. We should tell you we

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Speaker 2: will be talking with GM Brandon Bean about a half

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Speaker 2: hour to get an update on where things stand with

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Speaker 2: Buffalo's fourth year back. There were a couple of player

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Speaker 2: transactions today as well. The Bill's wave defensive end Cameron

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Speaker 2: Cline Climb was here for just a couple of practices.

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Speaker 2: Got signed over the weekend, practiced a couple of times

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Speaker 2: because they were a bit short handed at edge rushers.

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Speaker 3: His first day was Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Moved off the roster today before practice. Buffalo also made

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Speaker 2: a change on their offensive line. They signed veteran guards

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Speaker 2: center Dan Feene, the eight year vet played in eight

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Speaker 2: games for the Vikings last season. To make room for

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Speaker 2: him on the roster, they released undrafted rookie guard Rush Rheimer.

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Speaker 2: And he is already Steve's favorite lineman because he has

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Speaker 2: a full blown mullet. It's beauty and a party in

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Speaker 3: And a mustache, a police officer muslie.

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Speaker 2: He does have a Yeah, it's of the push broom

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Speaker 2: of the riot. Go so and I will tell you Steve,

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Speaker 2: like normally on day one, even veteran lineman when they

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Speaker 2: get here, it's a lot of observation. For the first practice,

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Speaker 2: he was running second team center reps because you don't

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Speaker 2: have Cedric Van Praing Granger, you don't have Alec Anderson,

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Speaker 2: so you're reduced basically to Connor McGovern, Jacob Bear, the

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Speaker 2: undrafted rookie, and whoever else wants to go in there.

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Speaker 2: So they needed Phoene.

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Speaker 3: You can feel the frustration in the organization with the

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Speaker 3: list of injuries, and we'll get to that in a sec.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's yeah, yeah, it's now. It's starting to be

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Speaker 3: a little bit annoying how many guys are in and

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Speaker 3: to be you know, of the.

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Speaker 2: With the exception of Shakir and Hairston and Harrison.

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Speaker 3: Hairston, and even those are not season enders. It's kind

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Speaker 3: of like and plus, you got a month before you

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Speaker 3: even think about getting ready for a game, so none

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Speaker 3: of this stuff is like, you know, oh my catastrophic, right,

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Speaker 3: you don't think like any of them are gonna cost

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Speaker 3: you a game, and yet you're sitting here.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's frustrating. So let's frame this as to why

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Speaker 2: it's an issue. Taron Johnson doesn't practice today. He was

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Speaker 2: on a vet rest day, so no worries there. Dan

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Speaker 2: today he's been excused for personal reasons, so hopefully everything's

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Speaker 2: okay with his family, But the long list of injury

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Speaker 2: mispracticed due to illness. The others include the aforementioned Khalil

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Speaker 2: Shakir high ankle sprain suffered in the return of the

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Speaker 2: to week. Other injured players include Caden Prather hamstring, Curtis

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Speaker 2: Samuel hamstring, and these guys have been out for over

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Speaker 2: the problem. Coach McDermott framed it on Sunday when he

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Speaker 2: They still had injuries, and so it went from having

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Speaker 2: Like this team likes to practice. They can't wait anymore.

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Speaker 2: They just got to go.

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Speaker 3: So their install is probably going it probably got hindered.

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Speaker 2: But you got a game on Saturday, right, You got.

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Speaker 3: To get a game plan together at least have enough

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Speaker 3: That's all on the tables. It's obvious what it is.

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Speaker 3: You just don't have enough guys to get ready to

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Speaker 2: You don't want to prep for the regular season.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to force Khalil Shakir to work through

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Speaker 3: Giants on a Saturday in August, right, So somebody else

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Speaker 3: has got to take those reps. You gotta practice because

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Speaker 3: you got you know, eighty nine other guys. You got

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Speaker 3: so it's a problem. It's starting to crimp their ability

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Speaker 3: and they don't like that a bit.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't sound like a big deal. But this

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Speaker 2: They came to camp with seventeen defensive backs thirteen practice today. Like,

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Speaker 3: You see some of the stuff like like Cedric van

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Speaker 3: but during training camp and during football stuff, offensive linemen

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Speaker 3: but that's about it. DB's and receivers run hard every

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Speaker 3: really asking a lot of their legs and their ankles

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Speaker 3: it's training camp is a different kind of level of

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Speaker 3: for the I say athletes, the athletes. The athletes got

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Speaker 3: The big guy's got to be worried about getting bumped,

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Speaker 3: So it's a little bit different like that. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 3: I made the point today modern NFL practices are much

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Speaker 3: get through this out here that the concept is, and

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Speaker 3: because the reps are shorter, the practices are harder. You

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Speaker 3: every rep is more intense. Well, they try to make

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Speaker 3: it's just the way it is. And you're leaning on

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Speaker 3: decades past. It was. It goes from to to day

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Speaker 3: you do it. You take it easy, you lean on

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Speaker 3: Now it is high intense. I'm gonna win this rep.

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Speaker 3: Let's go as this. My entire career is on the

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Speaker 3: line right here every rep. And that's why you get

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Speaker 3: these guys popping stuff everywhere. It The pace and intensity

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Speaker 3: And that's that's the climate of the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Not to mention it has been very dry here this

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Speaker 2: as a rock, so that doesn't help either. The good

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Speaker 2: Taylor rap who came back after missing yesterday's practice, Joshua

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Speaker 2: hope it gets better and better soon because this team

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Speaker 2: has a preseason game in five days and they're gonna

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Speaker 2: need bodies because logic tells us, as the last few

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Speaker 2: preseasons have gone, starters don't play a whole lot in

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Speaker 2: enough second team and third team players to get through

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Speaker 2: an entire game. And that's why coach McDermott when he

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Speaker 2: primarily because they got to see who they're gonna get back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, who's available? Spencer Brown's back on the field. He

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Speaker 2: You thought it was well, padded practice was yesterday and today.

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Speaker 2: He's still not doing team reps right, so he's not

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Speaker 3: Things to think about this Marv, And he still tells

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Speaker 2: know if you want Josh out there with that kind

434
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Speaker 2: of caliber of player. Now, you the Bills have a

435
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Speaker 2: very good offensive line. Josh knows to throw it away

436
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Speaker 2: if it's a problem, especially in the preseason. But do

437
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Speaker 2: you want to you want to cheat that? Hangman? Yeah,

438
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Speaker 2: I know you can't play scared.

439
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Speaker 3: But I'd give Josh half a couple of series anyway.

440
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Speaker 2: Yeah, see run the ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you don't have to get Josh out

442
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 3: there and have the you know, have him run the

443
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Speaker 3: quarterback power on the right side or they don't need that.

444
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Speaker 3: But yeah, and I'll say this too, you would you

445
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Speaker 3: do kind of want to see your offensive line out there?

446
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Speaker 4: Yep?

447
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Speaker 3: And if they're out there, why not put Josh behind

448
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Speaker 3: them and give them a couple of series? I get it, though,

449
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Speaker 3: I mean.

450
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Speaker 2: This is when fans get all squeamish.

451
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Speaker 3: The list of how this injury riddled preseason. First two

452
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Speaker 3: weeks of training camp has gone. Even though they're all

453
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Speaker 3: kind of superficial, most of them are. With the couple

454
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Speaker 3: of exceptions, it does make you a little bit like,

455
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Speaker 3: you know, hell Leary.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Former Bills defensive tackle Austin Johnson signing with Jacksonville.

457
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Speaker 2: Thirty one year old at two interceptions and a half

458
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 2: sacked last season for Buffalo, so he is on a

459
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Speaker 2: roster now. Dolphins offensive tackle Austin Jackson is going to

460
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Speaker 2: miss it least the next few weeks after suffering a

461
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Speaker 2: lower leg injury. Coach Mike McDaniel said Jackson was stepped

462
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Speaker 2: on during a practice last Friday. They think he'll be

463
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Speaker 2: ready for the regular season. They don't need any more injuries.

464
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Speaker 2: Michael Pennix and Kirk Cousins will not play in Atlanta's

465
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Speaker 2: preseason opener Friday against the Lions. That according to head

466
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Speaker 2: coach Raheem Morris, Colts veteran running back Savon Achmet taken

467
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Speaker 2: down by a defender with an illegal hip drop tackle,

468
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Speaker 2: had a major lower leg injury. Went immediately to the

469
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Speaker 2: hospital for X rays. I mean, they're trying to get

470
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Speaker 2: that tackle out of the game. Can you imagine somebody

471
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Speaker 2: doing that to a teammate in training camp. I mean,

472
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Speaker 2: that's the kind of thing they'll get you cut. You

473
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Speaker 2: can't be breaking teammates legs, even if it's unintentional, you

474
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Speaker 2: know what I mean. And David White was named NFLPA

475
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Speaker 2: interim executive director. White has extensive labor experience, having served

476
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Speaker 2: as the leader of the SAG after A Union two

477
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Speaker 2: thousand and nine to twenty twenty one.

478
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Speaker 3: I'm in both those The A for those of you

479
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Speaker 3: who don't know what after A means, it's American Federation

480
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Speaker 3: of Television and Radio Announcers.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 3: You're in that too, aren't you.

483
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Speaker 2: Ronny I did have to sign something recently.

484
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Speaker 3: Saved White. Yeah, good for him.

485
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Speaker 2: Uh. I don't know, like you look around the league

486
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Speaker 2: and obviously they're injuries everywhere. Yeah, and people. I don't

487
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Speaker 2: know what it is about this summer, but it just

488
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Speaker 2: seems like across the league you're getting a lot of injuries.

489
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Speaker 2: I think it's more than I don't know, it just

490
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Speaker 2: feels like it's been more collectively.

491
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Speaker 3: Yet and there have been more than a handful of,

492
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Speaker 3: you know, major injuries. However, I don't know that you know,

493
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Speaker 3: every team has been like the the Bills have been

494
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Speaker 3: relatively superficial, but it's not all. That's not always the

495
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Speaker 3: case around the league. I'm I don't know. I'd have

496
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Speaker 3: to see the big numbers to see if this was

497
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Speaker 3: a trend or something, because it very well could happen,

498
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Speaker 3: because we all know there is such a window of

499
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Speaker 3: what's allowed and what's not allowed. If everybody's doing the

500
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Speaker 3: same thing all the time, you're gonna get the same

501
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Speaker 3: result all the time, you know what I'm saying. So

502
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Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to see if they do some data

503
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Speaker 3: that says, you know what, we need to tweak this

504
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Speaker 3: a little bit because this is happening to everybody. I

505
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Speaker 3: don't know that it's that point yet.

506
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Speaker 4: I hope not. Uh.

507
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Speaker 2: And it feels like we filled our quota here, so

508
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: it could stop any time now, like today, that would

509
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Speaker 2: be nice. We have to step aside and take a

510
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Speaker 2: break here. When we come back, we will be joined

511
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Speaker 2: by Bill's general manager, Brandon Bean as he kind of

512
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: updates us on his thoughts of training camp thus far

513
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Speaker 2: here at Saint John Fisher. So we take a break

514
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Speaker 2: and back with the Bill's front office boss. When we return.

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Speaker 2: On one Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo

516
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Speaker 2: Bill's Radio. All right back here at Saint John Fisher

517
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Speaker 2: Bill's training Camp, Day ten in the Books, Chris Brown

518
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: joined by Bill's general manager Brandon Bean. Brandon Bean's segment

519
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Speaker 2: here on one Bill's Live presented by Northtown. Whatever you're

520
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Speaker 2: looking for, you'll find it at Northtown. Northtown the official

521
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Speaker 2: automotive dealer of the Buffalo Bills. So are we were

522
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Speaker 2: tired of answering James questions?

523
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Speaker 4: You know what? It's always something right, Yeah, he can

524
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 4: never just walk through and have a perfectly healthy team. Uh,

525
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 4: and everyone signed that wants to be signed and perfect

526
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 4: weather every day. It's just the life of training camp.

527
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Speaker 2: Let me let me try to like shape it differently

528
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: because I know you've talked about being in constant communication

529
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Speaker 2: with his people. So would you call the level of

530
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 2: dialogue relatively steady throughout you know, the spring and summer.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think there was, Uh, there was dialogue, But

532
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Speaker 4: when you're at the end of the day, we kind

533
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Speaker 4: of I think I even said it, like, hey, once

534
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 4: we kind of got all those guys signed in that

535
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 4: draft class and Josh's deal, the draft is very important,

536
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 4: so all eyes on that, and then I remember you

537
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 4: saying that it's at that point we're kind of working

538
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 4: on our draft guys, and so once we don't really

539
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 4: get it done, then we're usually you'd never say never,

540
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Speaker 4: We're usually like, hey, we're not going to really look

541
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 4: at anything until we get the camp, and so, uh,

542
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 4: that's kind of where it was. So there wasn't really

543
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Speaker 4: much communication. There's been communication since we've been here, and

544
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Speaker 4: you know, as I said earlier this morning, you know,

545
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Speaker 4: this is my ninth season here. I've never had a

546
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Speaker 4: player missing a practice over contracts. So you know, I

547
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Speaker 4: I take personal responsibility for that. I don't like that.

548
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 4: I don't you know, one of my jobs is to

549
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Speaker 4: make sure I'm eliminating any distractions from our team and organization.

550
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Speaker 4: And so unfortunately it's that's where it's at. From a

551
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 4: you know, a decision that he and his camp you know,

552
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Speaker 4: made the last couple of days. You know, there's a

553
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Speaker 4: day off. Hopefully hopefully soon we can you know, get

554
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Speaker 4: some resolution one way or the other, whether that's a

555
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 4: deal or whether that's hey, there's no deal, now let's

556
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Speaker 4: play it out and go from there.

557
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Speaker 2: Is this where being creative between the two parties can

558
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Speaker 2: be helpful sometimes because I'm sure you guys have talked

559
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Speaker 2: dad nauseum about the straight, hard, cold facts as they are.

560
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Speaker 2: But maybe getting creative, you know, can you know, maybe

561
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Speaker 2: create a crack in an opening for common ground to

562
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Speaker 2: be found.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's you know, every negotiation takes on

564
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Speaker 4: its own life, and you know, I feel like here,

565
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 4: we've had a lot of success, you know, with a

566
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Speaker 4: lot of agents, and you know, unfortunately I've never done

567
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 4: a deal with this crew before, and so we're you know,

568
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Speaker 4: still trying to fill that out. And I guess they

569
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Speaker 4: would probably say the same, you'd have to ask them,

570
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Speaker 4: But you know, it is what it is. I always

571
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Speaker 4: say that it takes two to tango. And you know,

572
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Speaker 4: when you do a deal, it's got to be right

573
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Speaker 4: for the club and right for the player. And when

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Speaker 4: you don't have a deal, that means it's not right

575
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Speaker 4: for one or.

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Speaker 2: Both, and not just for twenty twenty five. I mean

577
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Speaker 2: you got to think beyond that too. Just as the

578
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Speaker 2: general manager, you got a responsibility to your entire roster

579
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Speaker 2: for twenty six, twenty seven and beyond right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's really I mean, we you know Kevin

581
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 4: Meegank does a great job, you know, helping manage our

582
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Speaker 4: cap and project and we do a we have a

583
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Speaker 4: lot of sessions and meetings just looking in our cap,

584
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Speaker 4: looking at how people do contracts, how we who we

585
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Speaker 4: would potentially we're already talking about who we would potentially restructure,

586
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Speaker 4: who we would you know, depending on how they play

587
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 4: this year, could have to have a pay reduction or

588
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Speaker 4: we do something like you're you're constantly doing that planning

589
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Speaker 4: and replaying, planning and replanning, and things can change. Guys

590
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 4: can perform above that and guys can you know, you

591
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: think you're not worried about and like, man they hit

592
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 4: the injury buger, they're just not performing as well. There's

593
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Speaker 4: so many things, but we're constantly having those dialogue. But

594
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 4: you're exactly right. It's you know, people can say, well

595
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Speaker 4: you can do this and this and make it working

596
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 4: twenty five, that's fine, but every dollar or less you

597
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 4: take this year is adding on to those years. And

598
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 4: so we're you know, we have to work everything obviously

599
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 4: around Josh Allen's contract.

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Speaker 5: And.

601
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Speaker 4: We always want to pay them all, especially our own

602
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Speaker 4: and listen, there's there's no hard feelings with Jimbo. At

603
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Speaker 4: all love Jimbo, and sometimes you just have to agree

604
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Speaker 4: to disagree and and keep working on things.

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Speaker 2: Last season was the year of the wrist injury. It

606
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: was This training camp has been mostly soft tissue. And

607
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Speaker 2: you know we heard you kind of sensed it in

608
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: coach's voice because obviously he's got an agenda and stuff

609
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: he has to get done and an allotted amount of time,

610
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Speaker 2: and he's like, you could tell he's we got a

611
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: game in five days and we got to get ready.

612
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Speaker 2: And I mean they even the coaches even took steps

613
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Speaker 2: to like back off. I know you saw like the

614
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: first two days of two minute drills they ran at

615
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Speaker 2: half speed to take the pressure off the legs or

616
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Speaker 2: whatever joints and not push guys in terms of the

617
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Speaker 2: ones that were healthy. But then more guys were still

618
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Speaker 2: getting hurt. So I mean, the workarounds get pretty challenging

619
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Speaker 2: here when the injury list gets this long.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is this has been tough. It's been a

621
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Speaker 4: little bit of a domino effect. And you know, there's

622
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 4: no finger pointing where we're all working together. And I

623
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Speaker 4: think Sean and Bobby and Chris Tabor and Joe Brady

624
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 4: have done a great job. You know, I've either been

625
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: in part of some of those meetings or been on

626
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Speaker 4: the outskirts, just Cliff noting where we're at, what our

627
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: plan is for practice, how we're going to do it.

628
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Speaker 4: But uh, they've been in constant communication with Nate, Joe

629
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Speaker 4: Collins and Will on where we're at, how we can

630
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Speaker 4: get guys back. We're trying to get guys back. But

631
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Speaker 4: the you know, the less you have at a position,

632
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 4: the higher workload of this. So it's it's a balance

633
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 4: because to Sewn's point, we've got a real game. I

634
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 4: know it's a fake game, but we're playing another opponent.

635
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 4: It's it's full speed. We can't in the third quarter

636
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Speaker 4: ask the official to go eighty percent, you know, or

637
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: do a walk through half speed here. Yeah, we're not

638
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: too serious Rockaville to do that. And so as as

639
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: the coach, that's a little unnerving for him, and so

640
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 4: I feel for what he's having to deal with right

641
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 4: now managing all this. Yet also he doesn't want to

642
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: walk out there and watch us get our face smashed in, right,

643
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 4: And so there's a fine line to callousing your team

644
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 4: without breaking your team. And unfortunately we just started behind them.

645
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 4: We had four guys out that had some things that

646
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 4: happened over the summer and that definitely did not help

647
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 4: us to start there. And then you get a guy

648
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Speaker 4: here there. Now, all of a sudden, you're really thin

649
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 4: at some positions. So we've been swimming upstream here. It

650
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 4: feels like almost since day three or four of camp,

651
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: and we're trying to get out of it. But we're

652
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 4: still in the middle of it right now, and we're

653
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 4: just gonna keep putting our heads together and work our

654
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 4: way through this.

655
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know, you know, Tyler Bass has the

656
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: pelvic soreness and he hasn't been kicking and you know

657
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: about a handful of days now. And I'm not making

658
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: light of this at all. But Friday night, you know,

659
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: at the Blue and Red there's Ray Davis kicking some

660
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: field goals. So what do we think of Ray? And

661
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: is he the odds on favorite to be your emergency guy.

662
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: I would say put the Vegas odds on Ray. Ray

663
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 4: Davis may have to who knows, Maybe he's got to

664
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 4: kick a little bit on Saturday.

665
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: We'll see where we're at.

666
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 4: But I thought Ray did a good job. That was

667
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 4: a cool opportunity for him up right up, and he

668
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: did it. It's a you don't mind trying it, but

669
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 4: you don't want that to become a norm. Well, right right, And.

670
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 2: So hopefully if you need somebody, you've got somebody.

671
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 3: We got somebody.

672
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. How two receivers, one that has been

673
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: here a while and has flat out worked his tail

674
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: off to get an opportunity, and another guy who's a

675
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: newcomer Wilkerson and Shavers. To some degree, Wilkerson has been

676
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: the beneficiary of some of the injuries at the position,

677
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: but you can't blame him for stepping up and taking

678
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 2: advantage of it. For fans that really aren't familiar with Wilkerson,

679
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: what can you kind of outline about his background, because

680
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 2: he's an older guy that's kind of bounced around the league,

681
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: but maybe just paint the picture of him as a

682
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: prospect and what kind of made him attractive to bringing

683
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: him into camp here.

684
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you're exactly right. We talk about the

685
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 4: frustrations of injuries, but there is a positive and some

686
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 4: younger guys, some guys that we haven't arenest familiar with

687
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 4: here that we've scouted through playing against them or whatever

688
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 4: he's played in New England and Vegas and some other spots.

689
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 4: He's bounced around, he's had some spot duties, but he's

690
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 4: played NFL varsity football and he's come right in here.

691
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 4: He's had no fear. He's picked up the playbook when

692
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 4: we from when we sign him in the spring, and

693
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 4: he's been fun to watch. I think he to your point, Shavers,

694
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 4: has you know, for a couple of years, has been

695
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 4: one of the fan favorites and one of our favorites

696
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 4: to push for that roster spot and has been on

697
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 4: our practice squad. But I think Wilkerson's had a heck

698
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 4: of a camp, has gotten a decent amount of reps

699
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 4: with the first group due to some of those injuries.

700
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 4: And I don't see a guy that doesn't look like

701
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 4: he doesn't belong.

702
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's put together too, And I know the

703
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: importance that you guys put on receivers being able to

704
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 2: block in the run game, and just looking at his physique,

705
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 2: it looks like he can fill the bill here too.

706
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 2: Another player that you and Sean know a lot longer

707
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: than most of us, Shaq Thompson. And it's a shame

708
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 2: he's out with the hamstring injury now. But I gotta

709
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: tell you, Like, I've seen players come back from Achilles

710
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: injuries and it's usually twelve months removed. These guy's ten

711
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: months out from Achilles surgery, and he was all over

712
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: the place the first week of camp. I mean, he

713
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: was really, you know, killing it. And I mean the

714
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 2: hamstring injuries. Thinks it's not a long term thing, hopefully,

715
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 2: But what can you say about the way he came

716
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: in made an impact? And he's not a spring chicken either,

717
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: and that's a major injury to come back from so soon.

718
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on his ability? Maybe you're not

719
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: surprised at all, knowing H'm like you do.

720
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, if he weren't coming off the Achilles,

721
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: it would have been an unbelievable get for us, just

722
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 4: the person, the DNA.

723
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: You know.

724
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 4: Obviously we spent a couple of years in Carolina with him,

725
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 4: and and then beyond that, the two guys he played with,

726
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 4: Luke Keigley and Thomas Davis like he. I mean, he

727
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 4: learned from two of the best. And you know, I've

728
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 4: always followed his career, always had a good personal relationship

729
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 4: with him. He he is Bill's DNA like through and

730
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 4: through and so to have an opportunity to get him here.

731
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 4: The timing worked out, and you know, to your point, man,

732
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 4: I told him, like, Shack, this is as physical as

733
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 4: I've seen you. And I said, part of that's on me.

734
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 4: We're in the AFC, you're in the NFC, so I

735
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 4: don't there's not a lot of cross take and see

736
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 4: a lot, you know, when he was on or the

737
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 4: Panthers are on, I try and catch it. But man,

738
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: he when he came out the first couple years we

739
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 4: had him, he was so athletic. He was more that

740
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 4: run and chase. And you know, I think Thomas Tavis's

741
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 4: violence definitely rubbed off on him in a great way.

742
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 4: He was one of our most physical players leading up

743
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 4: into the Red Blue scrimmage. When he got the hamstring,

744
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 4: you know, we've we've got a good plan together and

745
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 4: hopefully get him back here sooner rather than later.

746
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: Because that's just valuable veteran to have just in the

747
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: room alone, let alone on the field. Coach was pretty

748
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: straightforward when the Hairston injury news came down, and you know,

749
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: everybody was like breathing a sigh of relief because you

750
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: know it's it's a week to week injury, not a

751
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: season ender, as I think some people were fearing. But

752
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: he did say, look, the facts are the facts. He

753
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: can't make up the time he can't get back the

754
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: time he's gonna miss. But my question to you is

755
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 2: you had a similar situation last year with the rookie

756
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 2: and Cole Bishop. Is there anything that the coaching staff

757
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: can take from that experience and maybe apply differently this

758
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 2: time around to have Max maybe even a little further

759
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: ahead than where Cole was, Or is it just the

760
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: fact of the matter is he's missing physical reps. It's

761
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: just going to be very hard to make it up.

762
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

763
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I think our guys really did a good

764
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 4: job last year of trying to get Coal as many

765
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 4: walk through reps and things like that, but you just couldn't,

766
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 4: you know, really get him out there. And then you know,

767
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 4: and he plays a little bit and obviously you know,

768
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: got to start in the Houston game, and we didn't

769
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 4: go perfect. But I say all the time, like Toyl

770
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 4: Bernard's first starting against the Jets a few years ago

771
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 4: didn't go perfect, Like it's a lot to go from

772
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 4: college defense to NFL and a safety and a linebacker

773
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 4: are going to have a lot on their plate. I

774
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 4: would say, uh, the one positive, a corner's probably got

775
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 4: a little less on his plate than a safety from

776
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 4: that's a good point from that standpoint, But there's there's

777
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 4: nothing you can do. I think at the point when

778
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 4: our docs and trainers say he can at least get

779
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 4: back into walkthroughs, you know, getting those reps, you know,

780
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 4: at least if they're not at full speed, they are reps,

781
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 4: and you can't you know, those are the things you

782
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 4: just you lose, and he's going to lose all these

783
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 4: live reps. But we'll do everything we can to get

784
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 4: him up to speed. Right now, he's in meetings doing

785
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 4: on but r his main task is to spend time

786
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 4: with our medical team and get you know, get cleared and.

787
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 2: Then the last one I've got for you. I think

788
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: a lot of the focus this offseason, and understandably so,

789
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: has been on the defensive side of the ball. All

790
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: the additions you made both in free agency and the draft,

791
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: and I get all that, and I understand, you know,

792
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: people are focused on it, but I just feel like

793
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: special teams has not been kind of covered or talked

794
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: about enough, and getting Chris Taber in here a veteran

795
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: special teams coordinator, which I think is the first time

796
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: you've had a guy that's done it in the league

797
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: previously at that level since twenty eighteen when Danny Crossman

798
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: was here. Can you just speak to Plus, he's been

799
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: doing research all last year. He's just watching the league

800
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: and studying everybody. I just feel just watching him out

801
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 2: on the practice field and talking to some people and

802
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: the way he coaches that you're gonna go into every

803
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: game on Sunday with the chance to have a game

804
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: day advantage in that phase of the game with this

805
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 2: guy running the show for you. Do you feel similarly or.

806
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree. You know, tabes Is, I knew

807
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 4: who he was. We've worked with common friends around the league.

808
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 4: You know, we've both been in the league, you know,

809
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 4: a number of years, and so it heard really good

810
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 4: things about him. Matter of fact, I remember his name

811
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 4: came up all the way back when I was in

812
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 4: Carolina with Rivera. I think they had crossed paths somewhere.

813
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 4: But long story short, it's been great to work with him,

814
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 4: you know, really spent some time with him in the

815
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 4: in the draft process as he was kind of going

816
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 4: through some prospects and we were looking at players, so

817
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 4: really got to know him then and then it was

818
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,959
Speaker 4: you know, fun to see him the spring kind of coach.

819
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 4: But you know, I see a guy that you know,

820
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 4: has the personality of the guys enjoy being around him.

821
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 4: But he's not afraid to you know, jump him if

822
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 4: he needs to be. And he brings a confidence to

823
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 4: the group that I think will help this group. And

824
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 4: we've tried to, you know, get his ideas on what

825
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 4: he sees in certain players. Look at our players from

826
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 4: a fresh lens. You don't have any bias, you don't

827
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 4: have any partiality, Like go watch the tape this spring,

828
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 4: and and you know even Turner West, you know.

829
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: That he that he hired assistant especially, and so it's.

830
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 4: Right, has been a good hire. And I like both

831
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 4: those guys have been really working and they had not

832
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 4: worked together before, but they've I really like what they're

833
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 4: doing and I'm excited. Obviously, we've got to get out

834
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 4: there and do it. And it's it's up to me

835
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 4: to make sure we give them the right pieces, you know,

836
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 4: each week to go out there and make an impact.

837
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: Awesome thanks for the time as always, Brandon. Good to

838
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: catch up with you here at training camp. We will

839
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: take a break but be back with more as Steve

840
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 2: jumps back in the seat here. But that's GM Brandevie. Yeah, well,

841
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 2: a lot of people say that you're not the first person.

842
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker will be joining us when we return here.

843
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: On One Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health, it's

844
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, good conversation there with Brandon Bean,

845
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: and we thank him for bringing us up to speed

846
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: on some things. And they've maintained dialogue with Cook's Camp.

847
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 2: And you know, I asked him, with all the talking

848
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: you've done, people know what the hard cold facts are

849
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: in terms of where the Bills are and where Cook's

850
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 2: Camp is. And that's why I asked him. I said,

851
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: if you get really creative, does that move the needle

852
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: at all? And he said, well, you can go down

853
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: that road, but don't guarantee anything's gonna change, because you

854
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: know how we've been talking all summer about well maybe

855
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: if you structure the money and you push this up front,

856
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: and like, you know what I mean, And so I'm

857
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: thinking like creativity in that way, and he didn't pooh

858
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: poo it, but I think it's very clear where both

859
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 2: sides stand right now, and now it's a matter of

860
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 2: whether or not there is going to be even the

861
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: slightest concession made. But I think we've learned over the years, Steve,

862
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: that the Bills put a value on a player and

863
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: they don't move off it. Well, they really don't.

864
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the and the thing about it is on

865
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 3: Brandon Bean's part, it's not just his opinion, it's right,

866
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: it's the the head coach, the coordinator and the GM,

867
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 3: you know, and that whole side of the ball staff.

868
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: You know, what do you think of him? What's he doing?

869
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: What you know? And they have in depth detailed conversations

870
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: on every aspect of the relationship and what he means

871
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 3: and what he could mean, and what they you know,

872
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: on and on and on, and that helps Brandon be

873
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: not to get wrapped up in it personally, you know

874
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like maybe the GM in Dallas gets

875
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 3: wrapped up in it personally, he says, oh, yeah, or

876
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: the GM and you know the Gams Dallas, Yeah, the GM.

877
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: You know, if you get it helps you stay aligned

878
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: with the organization's goals and what they've set out as

879
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 3: their plan, and you stay on the plan, no matter

880
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 3: how much it hurts and how close you get without

881
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: you just missing, you got to stick with it. Yeah,

882
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: it's hard to do sometimes when a player's plan is

883
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: different than yours.

884
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: Well, and I wanted to. I wanted to ask Brandon this,

885
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: but I didn't think it would be fair to him

886
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 2: because he doesn't want to speak for James. It's a

887
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: better question for James. But I want to believe that

888
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 2: James is a smart enough player to know the of

889
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: playing with Josh Allen and with this offensive line. I

890
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: know it does. It probably doesn't mean a hill of

891
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: beans when we're talking about, you know, his future wealth potential,

892
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: because he just wants his money. But at the same time,

893
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: I think you have to know that if you go

894
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: into the free agent market next year and you just

895
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: take the take the offer that's the most money, you

896
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: might be going somewhere and winning six or seven games

897
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: next year, and it might be an awful lot harder

898
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: when you're facing a lot of eight man boxes because

899
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: maybe your quarterback isn't Josh. It's yeah, you know what

900
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 2: I mean, Like, I don't even know if that's crossing

901
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: his mind at this point in time. He just wants

902
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 2: to get paid, so maybe he has singularly focused all that.

903
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: I just want to believe there's an appreciation for that.

904
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: If I could be so bold as to put myself

905
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: in a player's mindset where I used to be. All

906
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 3: that stuff is secondary to the fact that you're taking

907
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: care of your family. James Cook is going to sign

908
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 3: a life changing deal, whether it's with the Bills or

909
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 3: somebody else. The question is how big that life changing

910
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 3: deal is gonna be, and who it's gonna be with,

911
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 3: and will he be one hundred percent healthy to sign it.

912
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 3: That's it. If he comes out and plays this year.

913
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 3: You and I have talked about it at length. The

914
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 3: chance of injury in the National Football League over the

915
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: course of a regular season is one hundred percent. Every

916
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 3: single guy on the roster is gonna get hurt injured.

917
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: Now that doesn't mean they're all gonna miss time.

918
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 2: Well Cook missed the Week six game last year against

919
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: the Jets.

920
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 3: But it does mean they're all gonna get injured. So

921
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 3: you get injured, and it's just how severe that injury

922
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: is is a roll of the dice, and there you go,

923
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: and that's where he's at. He you're risking real zeros

924
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 3: on your contract by going out and trying to play.

925
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 3: Now you're also risking on the good side too. I mean,

926
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 3: you could exponentially enhance your status because at the end

927
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 3: of this year he's a free agent and there's no

928
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 3: way the Bills are going to tag him probably not

929
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 3: right well, even if they do, it's guaranteed and life

930
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 3: for a year, right for a year. So that's that's

931
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 3: the risk. We all, we can all see it. And

932
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 3: if you follow the league and you follow the salary

933
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 3: caps and see how it is, you know, if James

934
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 3: Cook comes out and crushes it this year, his life

935
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 3: will never be the same financially. And I think he's

936
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 3: already at that's that point. But let's face it, you're

937
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 3: talking a lot of money, and you don't want to

938
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 3: you know, you don't want to have a sort of

939
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: a what's the name of the running back from Pittsburgh,

940
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 3: the Blue Leon, But you don't want to do a

941
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 3: pull a Le'Veon Bell. Right, he misplayed his hand. He

942
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: did not.

943
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 2: He missed the year, played two years for the Jets,

944
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: and that was it. That was it and career.

945
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 3: Over, that's right, And he would have walked away even

946
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 3: if he'd have played the exact same amount of time

947
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: without missing the year, if he'd have played that year

948
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 3: with Pittsburgh, he would he would have had the same

949
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: deal and been fifteen million dollars richer. That's on top

950
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 3: of the money he made for the Jets. That's gives

951
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: you pause if you're a player, anybody so's James cook

952
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 3: is way and all that he knows if he comes

953
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: in and kills it with Josh Allen, this offense built

954
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 3: around his and has the season he had last year. Yes,

955
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 3: he's absolutely set, but he might he already is really

956
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 3: you know, he has got that kind of value in

957
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 3: the National Football League, but he won't if he's not healthy.

958
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 2: Right, And you know that's also the risk that he

959
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: has to weigh too, because if he decides no deals

960
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 2: happening here with the Bills, I'm just going to play

961
00:48:54,840 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: out this season, You're really running a major risk.

962
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: If he's holding in for the entire season.

963
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not even talking about that. I'm saying he's

964
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: got a play to maximize his value next offseason if

965
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: he doesn't sign a deal here and now you're putting

966
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: yourself at risk for seventeen weeks and probably a few more,

967
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 2: unless it's getting hurt and suffering a major injury and

968
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 2: costing yourself in the springs.

969
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 3: And here's what it comes down. He knows if the

970
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: Bills have said this is it, this is our final offer,

971
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: he'll know what that is. And if it's not good enough,

972
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 3: he may get he may get his representation may say, hey,

973
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 3: hit the hit the market healthy next year, you can

974
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 3: take this or a little better or whatever you think

975
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: you'll get on the free agent market, which will be

976
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 3: more next year because the market does nothing but go up.

977
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: Or you can make a play for the the top

978
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 3: being running back contract in the league because you're gonna

979
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: kill it with Josh and go to the super Bowl

980
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 3: and got blah blah blah blah all that. Then you know,

981
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 3: you do hit a home run, we'll see. I mean,

982
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: that's that's the question you got to do. Do you

983
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: do you go for a big, big, big money or not.

984
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not an easy decision. I'm not going to

985
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: pretend to know.

986
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: But not it's it is a question. And that's why

987
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 3: it goes back to the player and what his thoughts

988
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: are about it. It's not easy to play in the

989
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: National Football League. It's it hurts no not everybody wants

990
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: to go through that.

991
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here. Our number two will continue.

992
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: We've got to get our topic of discussion out to

993
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 2: you as well, which we will hit you with when

994
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: we come back from break. We also have a defensive

995
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: back bent to the post practice podium commentary Tomor Hamilton,

996
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 2: Tomorrow Hamlin and Christian Benford addressing the media after practice

997
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: today will get you their comments as well. Coming up

998
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: an hour number two here on One Bill's Live presented

999
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Speaker 2: by co Lot of Health. It's s Buffalo Bills Radio.

1000
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

1001
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 2: All right, here we are hour number two on a Monday,

1002
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 2: day ten of training camp now complete, There's only two

1003
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: practices left here at Saint John Fisher University for your

1004
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills before they head back down the througha to

1005
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 2: One Bill's Drive for the remainder of the twenty twenty

1006
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 2: five campaign preparations. Anything jump out at you today, Steve,

1007
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: because we we got to get to our topic of

1008
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 2: discussion here. But two minute drill had a nice ending

1009
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: today for the offense. Tyrrell Shavers in the back of

1010
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 2: the end zone with twenty seconds left on the two

1011
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 2: minute drill clock, as he got behind Cam Lewis for

1012
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: the touchdown on a pass from just.

1013
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 3: Three guys that are for me, that are the story

1014
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: of this training camp, story of the camp receiving Oh

1015
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 3: at the wide receiver position.

1016
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 2: Three guys. Okay, let me see if.

1017
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 3: Leaviscus, NL Tyrrel Shavers, Christian Wilkinson, Wilkerson.

1018
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: Those are the guys of camp. What do you mean

1019
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 2: by that?

1020
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: Those are the guys where I'm focused on. Oh, you're

1021
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 3: focused on. Palmer and Samuel are in and Khalil's in.

1022
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's four right there. Yeah, what about Elijah Moore?

1023
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just saying maybe.

1024
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 2: I'm pretty convinced they're carrying six.

1025
00:52:58,480 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 3: There you go.

1026
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: And the reason I say there are a couple of

1027
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: reasons why I say that, Steve. The main reason kind

1028
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 2: of came to me in a light bulb moment today.

1029
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: When we did our podcast Bills by the Numbers last week,

1030
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 2: we asked each other what do you think could be

1031
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 2: most different about the offense, the defense and the special teams?

1032
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 2: You know, And on offense, I said, I believe there

1033
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: will be even more pre snap motion than we saw

1034
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 2: last year, and there was a lot of it. Sure,

1035
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 2: now you could speak to this better than I can.

1036
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: But I am thinking, with all of that extra pre

1037
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: snap motion and all of that extra running over a

1038
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: seventeen game season, you might need an extra set of

1039
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: legs on your active roster. Maybe not, Maybe you do

1040
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: the practice squad elevation stuff like they did last year

1041
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: with Jalen Virgil. But I was thinking last year, last year,

1042
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 2: with all of that prestat motion, they needed more legs

1043
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: at the receiver position. They called up Jaylen Virgil three times,

1044
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: they called up Tyrrel Shavers three times, and there was

1045
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: another player that got hauled up last year too, I

1046
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: want to say, at the receiver position. So I'm looking

1047
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: at all of that and I'm thinking, okay, cumulative effect

1048
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 2: of all that pre snap motion running, orbit motions and

1049
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 2: back and forth and all before you've even run a rout.

1050
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's say merit to.

1051
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 2: The carrying an extra receiver for that reason, I don't think.

1052
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: So you don't like the theory, okay, fine.

1053
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 3: I would say not not.

1054
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: Caring, So you're not insulting me.

1055
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: I just not serious, white House. But you might have

1056
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: an extra on the practice squad.

1057
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: Or they'll have two or three.

1058
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you might carry an extra guy there because

1059
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: the games, it's it's not an issue. My My thing

1060
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 3: is if they do carry six and you add Elijah

1061
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 3: Moore's the fifth one, so then it comes down to Shavers, Wilkerson,

1062
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 3: and Chault.

1063
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got three guys fighting for one spot, and

1064
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:45,479
Speaker 2: that's if you keep six.

1065
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 3: Chault got a different vibe about him that I'm still

1066
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 3: trying to get my mind around. Wilkerson and Shavers are

1067
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 3: playing lights out, and now the kid that's playing really

1068
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 3: well is Steve Gosnell.

1069
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: Clever outrunner.

1070
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: He's a good route runner and he's got a nice

1071
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 3: frame and he seems like he's he wants to mix

1072
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 3: it up too, So I'm you know, he's he's caught

1073
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 3: my eye as well. Dion Kane has had some moments

1074
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 3: as well.

1075
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he just came in last week.

1076
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 3: That's right.

1077
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: He's made some place.

1078
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 3: So they've got a room full of guys that are

1079
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 3: that are vying for it. Keon. I'll tell you what.

1080
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 3: If Keon does not explode onto the scene, it's not

1081
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 3: for lack of opportunity. They are throwing the ball at

1082
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 3: him a lot. I'm in training camp.

1083
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this because I know by no

1084
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 2: means would anyone call Keon Coleman a proven NFL commodity

1085
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: based on his year last year, which was interrupted by injury,

1086
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: as we know. But somebody was asking me because after

1087
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 2: the Friday night practice, so he drops his first two passes,

1088
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: and then he makes three gigantic plays and contested situations

1089
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 2: down the right sideline, one of which ends up in

1090
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: a catch and run for a touchdown. And so when

1091
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 2: I just put together my practice notes on Twitter, somebody said,

1092
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 2: why didn't you mention Keon's two drops? So I answered,

1093
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: I said, because he completely redeemed himself and scored a touchdown.

1094
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 2: So I understand. The inconsistency is confounding, and believe me,

1095
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: the Bills want him to be more consistent too. But

1096
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, I'm just gonna say it.

1097
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: All he needs is reps in time and he will

1098
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 2: get there. He works too hard and he is too

1099
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: intelligent and too talented not to get there. He needs

1100
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: reps and time. I think it will come together for him.

1101
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 3: That's yes, I've seen. That is all the stuff you

1102
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 3: just said is you can, you can carve it. And granted,

1103
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 3: when you're smart and you work hard and you're talented,

1104
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 3: you're gonna be good. You're gonna be good.

1105
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 2: And we heard Brandon Bean this morning on with Jeremy

1106
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 2: and Joe and Buffalo say that Keon's agent is pushing

1107
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 2: forward an agenda in concert with the Bills to help

1108
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: Keon get better, like they're working together on that.

1109
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's much to do what's best for Keon.

1110
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 3: That's much like Jordan Palmer and the Bills coaching staff

1111
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 3: having conversations because about Josh goes to California and Jordan's

1112
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 3: out there and they say, hey, how about this and

1113
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 3: then George like, I got you. I'm gonna work it.

1114
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 3: So that's what they do. That's commonplace now, but we

1115
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 3: don't hear about as much outside the quarterbacks of position.

1116
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 3: It's good and we all heard Keon's off season trash

1117
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 3: comments about and that's saying the right He says all

1118
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 3: the right things, and I think the team hears that,

1119
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: and I think they're seeing the manifestation. It's not just words,

1120
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. It's not just a guy

1121
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 3: talking and and keeping the media off his back, and

1122
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 3: I think he believe he is genuine when he says that.

1123
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 3: And if you hang around him, you've seen his other

1124
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 3: media stuff. He is who he's seems to be like

1125
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 3: in that way, He's like Josh. There is no pretense

1126
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 3: at all, there's no agenda. He's just doing what he does.

1127
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 3: So when he says stuff, I mean he believes it.

1128
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 3: And so that is very comforting when you see him

1129
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 3: out there working hard and doing that. And I'm telling you, man,

1130
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 3: he is a presence physically out on the field. There

1131
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 3: are guys when you go out there and play, you

1132
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 3: just know they cut a swath physically, and that's what

1133
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 3: Keon does. He when he lines up, you know what

1134
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 3: you're getting. You're getting a boatload of big athleticism that

1135
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 3: you got to handle somehow. There's something in that. That's

1136
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 3: why they look for guys like that. You got to

1137
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 3: you got to muscle up for that, and he brings

1138
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 3: it every every play. We've been talking about I've been

1139
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 3: talking with a lot of people about practice tempo and

1140
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 3: how it's different. We talked about it in the first

1141
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 3: segment about how these practices are read Man, Keon goes

1142
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 3: out there you're getting a hundred percent. It's not like

1143
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 3: he's just trying to get through this rep because he's

1144
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: had twenty reps. Like, give me another second practice of

1145
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 3: the day. You're in pass and everybody's no, No, he's

1146
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 3: he's got a limited number of reps and he's gonna

1147
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 3: maximize it. He comes out and you can tell the

1148
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 3: throttle is already up. So guys like that are gonna

1149
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 3: get better. And you're right, Brownie, he needs to stay

1150
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 3: on the field and get reps. He is.

1151
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 2: He's gonna come together for me. It's pretty confident.

1152
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think he is a guy

1153
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 3: that's that bears watching this season. But because like I said,

1154
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 3: it's obvious from this first couple of weeks of camp,

1155
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: he's he's gonna get targeted. He's gonna get targeted. Well,

1156
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 3: because he's better. You've got to have somebody to defend that.

1157
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: He's convincing the quarterbacks to keep reinvesting in him when

1158
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 2: there's a fifty to fifty ball. I'm gonna give him

1159
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: a chance because he keeps rewarding me. Well, that's you

1160
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 2: get That's what happened Friday night back at the stadium.

1161
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 3: When you widen your menu of possible throws that come

1162
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 3: to you by saying, listen, if it's an if he

1163
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 3: if it's an iffy window, throw it anyway. Yeah, quarterbacks

1164
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 3: not coming off you. He's gonna heave it up, let's go.

1165
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 3: So you're gonna get more targets because of that mindset

1166
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 3: of the quarterbacks saying, well, it's it's good enough. Let's

1167
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 3: got Josh's like, he's open enough, you know. So that

1168
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 3: will change things for him in game type situations and

1169
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 3: they will start to design and call plays accordingly. You

1170
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 3: gotta like what you see with him though. Man. I

1171
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 3: love how full of pace and physicality he is. I

1172
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 3: mean he's coming down the sideline and it sounds like

1173
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 3: a fistfight when he's running by you. Yeah, because the

1174
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,439
Speaker 3: DB's got to be physically engaged with him to keep him,

1175
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 3: keep a lid on him.

1176
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 2: Yep. Topic that spins us into our topic of discussion today,

1177
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 2: which is which wide receiver do you want to see

1178
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: emerge as a camp slash preseason standout eight oh three

1179
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 2: five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty the number

1180
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: to jump on board, and we do have open lines

1181
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 2: for you there. And while we wait for you guys

1182
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: to chime in on the receiver side of the ledger.

1183
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: I will tell you that the best and most consistent

1184
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 2: defensive back on the field today was Trudevious White and

1185
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: it wasn't even close. The guy had about three or

1186
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: four pass breakups and should have had an interception as

1187
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: well when he executed air tight perfect technique, jumped the

1188
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 2: route and was going to go the other way for

1189
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: an interception return for a touchdown and could not hold

1190
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: onto the ball and almost wanted to rip his head

1191
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 2: off of his own shoulders because he didn't catch the ball.

1192
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: Best dB on the field today by far.

1193
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's great to see it is I mean, uh,

1194
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm still not convinced that he's all the way

1195
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: back to the all pro Tradevious White that we saw

1196
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: a few years ago.

1197
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: And maybe that's unrealistic to expect at three after two

1198
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 2: major injuries. Maybe that's unfair to expect. But I said

1199
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: it last year, or I said it last spring when

1200
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 2: he signed. It's not gonna be me. That's doubting Trudevious White.

1201
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 2: He don't ask me.

1202
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 3: You can tell how much fun he's having out there.

1203
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 3: He seems to be free of any encumbrances.

1204
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 4: He is.

1205
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 3: Loving the atmosphere. He's playing really hard. You can tell

1206
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 3: he feels confident in what he's doing. I think the

1207
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 3: defensive scheme and calls came back to him very quickly.

1208
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 3: I think he feels comfortable in his own skin, particularly

1209
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 3: at this point. And right now, let's face it, he

1210
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be He probably feels a little bit

1211
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 3: less pressure because he doesn't have to be Christian Benford,

1212
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 3: you know, well, right, And that's an easier spot to

1213
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 3: think about and to live in for a guy like

1214
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 3: Traudevius White who has had that mantle on his shoulders.

1215
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 3: So I'm it's he is loving life. You can tell

1216
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 3: he just loves life. He's out there practicing, competing, and

1217
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 3: he is living and dying every rip he is. He

1218
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 3: is like incomplete passing every time he has a pass breakup. Uh.

1219
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 3: He gave up a touchdown today in the deep red zone. Yep,

1220
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 3: and he was bitter.

1221
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 4: Uh.

1222
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 3: But it was a quick throw to and I don't

1223
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 3: know how you defend it if the throws right, Well, well.

1224
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, the receiver had a two way go. It was Coleman. Yeah,

1225
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 2: he had a two way go and Trey's expecting the

1226
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 2: tall guy to go to the corner and out leap

1227
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 2: him for the football, and he went he did an

1228
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 2: inside slant on him, and that was that he guessed wrong.

1229
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 2: But we want to go to the phones at eight

1230
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: oh three oh five fifty one eighty and eight five

1231
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty. That's the number to get on

1232
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 2: board with us. Have open lines for you as we're

1233
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 2: asking you, which wide receiver do you want to see

1234
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 2: emerge as a camp slash preseason stand out? And we

1235
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 2: go to David in Tanawanda. First, what's up, David?

1236
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 6: Are you doing? Gentlemen, Dave taking my call? Answer to

1237
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 6: that wide receiver Shavers. We we've seen basically what Shavers

1238
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 6: can do for us. Uh, definitely when when we needed

1239
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 6: somebody to go on to that field. I think this

1240
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 6: could possibly be that year where Shavors Shavers can honestly

1241
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 6: get out on that field and and be able to

1242
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 6: show exactly what.

1243
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 7: He can do.

1244
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 6: He's been with to what going up three years, three

1245
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 6: years now, and I think this is it.

1246
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 7: This is this may be his.

1247
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 6: Breakout time where we can be able to see exactly

1248
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 6: what he can do. Because in reality, like we say,

1249
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 6: we don't have a number one wide receiver. Do we

1250
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 6: need one? We don't. But to be able to see

1251
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 6: exactly what these players to be able to to do

1252
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 6: against US, one one more extra player is gonna it's

1253
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 6: gonna do just so much more for this for this team.

1254
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 2: All Right, I like it, David. And yeah, it's actually

1255
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: his fourth year with the club. He's got three years

1256
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 2: on the practice squad. As we know. He got called

1257
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 2: up a few times last year. Played in the Jets

1258
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 2: game in the blowout win and had a forty nine

1259
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 2: yard catch and run for a touchdown on a pass

1260
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 2: for Mitch Trubisky in that laughter of a victory.

1261
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 3: Over the sixty nine yards for the sixteen. Yeah, they

1262
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 3: were on the thirty one yard line. They'd just gotten

1263
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 3: the ball back and gone. That was great play. It

1264
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 3: was in the forty to seven blowout. And yeah, he's gifted,

1265
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 3: but he's in a room full of gifted guys.

1266
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, more of a long strider, very much, not a

1267
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 2: lot of suddenness.

1268
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 3: Very long and lean, but he's got plenty of wheels.

1269
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 3: As you saw in the Jet game. I mean he

1270
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 3: got up its build up spiel. But yeah, and once

1271
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 3: he got momentum he was pulling away. He was pulling

1272
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 3: away well, I.

1273
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,919
Speaker 2: Mean his strides probably covered about eight feet. Yeah, he's

1274
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 2: done that, got long legs man. Yeah. I think he's

1275
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 2: a guy that a lot of people are rooting for,

1276
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 2: especially after they got a sneak peek as to what

1277
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 2: he's capable of. Last season. He had one catch last year.

1278
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 2: It was the sixty nine yard for a touchdown. Talking

1279
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 2: about making the most of your opportunity. I think he's

1280
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 2: got to have a strong preseason though, because, as we

1281
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: outlined previously, we're dealing with a situation where you can

1282
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 2: argue there is one receiver spot for up to three

1283
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 2: or four legitimate candidates.

1284
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 3: He's one of them, and just because a guy just

1285
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 3: misses out on the active roster, say, for instance, it

1286
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Speaker 3: does come down to the guys I was talking about,

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Speaker 3: like Christian Wilkerson, Tyrrell Shavers and who and who's the

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Speaker 3: other one? A lot not Elijah more Lemiscus Chanault and

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Speaker 3: one of the and one of those guys makes it.

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Speaker 3: And say it's Shavers and Wilkerson and chanlt get it

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01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 3: might not be Chanault and Wilkerson that makes the practice squad.

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Speaker 3: It might be two other guys because they feel the

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Speaker 3: role better. Because Chanault and Wilkerson get clipped as soon

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Speaker 3: as you try and put him on the practice squad

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01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, you may not have

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Speaker 3: a choice. So if you if you want the guy around,

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Speaker 3: you put him on the roster, because there's no guarantees

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Speaker 3: that any of these other guys will be able to

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Speaker 3: be brought back, and it looked Channault might not be

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Speaker 3: able to fill that role on the practice squad as

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Speaker 3: good as a guy like Steve Gosnell, you know, so

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Speaker 3: we'll see. It's once you get past that first six,

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Speaker 3: all bets are off.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and to Tom on

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01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 2: the west side. What's up Tom?

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Speaker 8: You guys brought up the exact guy I was going

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Speaker 8: to talk about, because well, let's go Chanal. He can

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Speaker 8: play special teams. He could be our return man. He

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01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 8: could also fill in a wide receiver, so he'd be

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Speaker 8: much like Steve's Steve All I want to call him Brownie,

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01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:03,439
Speaker 8: but anyway, Yeah, I think, well that's he can fill

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Speaker 8: a couple of roles on the team, on the fifty

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Speaker 8: three and shavers. Yeah, he's a one trick pony. I

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01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 8: like him, but he's got to beat somebody else out

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Speaker 8: to get there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it may not be completely accurate about shavers. He

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Speaker 3: may feel he may be able to cover kicks. You're right,

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01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 3: Chanault can't kick return. They may not need him to

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01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 3: kick return because they've got Codrington.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a competition going on there too.

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Speaker 3: That's right, so and and and Codrington of course is

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Speaker 3: a dB. So the coaching staff may come down to

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Speaker 3: depending on how everything falls down the ladder. It's like plinko.

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Speaker 3: You know, if this goes here, he's going to bounce

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Speaker 3: around because if you if Codrington makes the squad, Chanault

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Speaker 3: is less likely to make the squad, and vice versa,

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01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 3: and so ones on offense, ones on defense. And you're right,

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Speaker 3: Channault is an automatic return guy wide receiver. Codrington's an

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Speaker 3: automatic corner and return man. You might have some other

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Speaker 3: guys because Khalil Shakier returned punts in a playoff game

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01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 3: last year, and so it's you've got guys that can

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Speaker 3: fill in. And most of these athletes, the small guys,

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Speaker 3: wide outs, the running backs and that have all return kicks, corners, safeties.

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Speaker 3: They've all done it at some point in their career

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Speaker 3: because they're all good enough. They're better athletes than everybody

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Speaker 3: at the lower levels. Even if they're not the best

1337
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 3: athlete at the NFL level, they've had to fill that

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Speaker 3: role as a great athlete at the lower level, so

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01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 3: they've got experience catching kicks. So, yes, you're right. The

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Speaker 3: roster makeup Chanault does have an automatic return guy wide

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01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 3: receiver positions. That's what Khalil Shakir is too, although you

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01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 3: don't want him returning kicks all the time because of

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Speaker 3: the risk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was more of a punt turner, similar in

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01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 2: the way that Micah Hyde was ball security guy.

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Speaker 3: That's right, but I get it, you're right. Uh yeah,

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01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 3: we'll see. I'd like to see some more from Chennault

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01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 3: in a day to day practice setting. Maybe he's one

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01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 3: of those guys that plays well in game day and

1350
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 3: he's you know what I mean.

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01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: More of a turn it on turning in practice.

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01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 3: Right, Maybe he's one of those guys.

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01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 2: We'll see break time for us here when we come back.

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01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 2: More of your thoughts on the receiver on this roster

1355
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: you'd like to see be a breakout camp slash preseason performer.

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Speaker 2: And we'll also have Damar Hamlin at the post practice

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Speaker 2: podium addressing the media. All of that coming your way

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Speaker 2: next here on One Bill's Live, presented by a lot

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Speaker 2: of health and s Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 2: training camp at Saint John Fisher. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: with you day ten of training camp in the books

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Speaker 2: and wanted to give a special thank you to the

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Speaker 2: good people at Wegmans for providing us with lunch here

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Speaker 2: at Saint John Fisher University throughout the duration of training camp.

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Speaker 2: Today's offering Steve was a Turkey Trio and an El

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01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 2: Hafe Salad with Chicken, a bold, satisfying combo. The Turkey

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01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 2: Trio offers a variety of sandwiches with classic Deli flavors,

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01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 2: while the El Hafe Salad brings Southwest flair with seasoned chicken,

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01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 2: black beans, corn and crunchy toppings. Fresh, flavorful and ready

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Speaker 2: to impress. Wegmans, the official tailiate headquarters of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: David came with the lime vinaigrette Wegman's dressing Chef's kiss

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01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 2: on that one ye cannot go wrong. Nope with the

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Speaker 2: lime vinaigrette on a Southwest salad and there were also

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Speaker 2: handy little side serving cup of the wakamo. If you're

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Speaker 2: gonna have a Southwest salad, it's good, you've got to

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Speaker 2: have the wakamole and uh the lime vinagrette dressing. That's

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Speaker 2: where it is at pour on Liberally is all I

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01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 2: will say.

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Speaker 3: You do that. I'm good. It was really good today.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate it. Wegmans has been great. They've they've done

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Speaker 3: it for that last couple of years.

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Speaker 2: And it's it's that charrede Street corn too. That that

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01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 2: stuff is. It's a level up on corn. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're not just dumping something out of a can and

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01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 2: throwing it in the microwave in a bowl. They got

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Speaker 2: that corn on the grill. Baby Charge Street Corn.

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Speaker 3: Wegman's is an iconic h logo here in in this

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01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 3: region obviously because it's started. It's just so much more

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Speaker 3: than a grocery store, you know, just so much more.

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Speaker 3: It's an experience. Appreciate it, well what you call it,

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01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 3: what you want, but more than just a place where

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Speaker 3: you go to buy food.

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Speaker 2: They're doing a bang up job. So thanks to them

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Speaker 2: again for another award winning lunch. We have to turn

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01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 2: now though to the post practice podium where one Damar

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Speaker 2: Hamlin was addressing the media after Day ten of training camp.

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Speaker 2: So let's hear what the safety had to say about

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01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 2: his opportunities on the field, especially with Taylor Rap and

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01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 2: Cole Bishop nursing injuries after he started a majority of

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Speaker 2: the season last year. Here is Damar.

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Speaker 9: Amazing having the time of my life. You know, off

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01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 9: season can get a a little bit hectic sometimes just

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01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 9: you know, happen to be like a thousand places at

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01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 9: once and you know, still trying to stick to the ground.

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01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 9: But just getting back here and being with the team,

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01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 9: you know, getting back in my process. You know, this

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01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 9: is always like my favorite time of the year, my

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01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 9: favorite place to be because like the game just makes

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Speaker 9: me my best self.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Japan was fun.

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Speaker 5: Japan was super fun.

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Speaker 9: Like if anyone can visit a Tokyo, if anyone's looking

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01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 9: for a vacation destination or something to do, please take

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01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 9: a trip to Tokyo. I had an amazing time. But

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01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 9: also I got to do some good work out there

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01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 9: with my foundation. We taught CPR in the American School

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01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 9: in Japan. Uh and we we gave us we gave

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01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,799
Speaker 9: away some ads uh to some some you flag football

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01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 9: teams out there. So it's super cool.

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01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 4: You know.

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01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 9: We partnered with American Heart Association and Zoe and did

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Speaker 9: some some really good work out there.

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01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 10: I saw you kind of got checked shocking up a

1424
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 10: little today A player new good injury wise, like you

1425
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 10: want break back out there?

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01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm super good man. You know what I just

1427
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 9: was it the nature of the game. I got a

1428
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 9: little banged up, but next play I was okay.

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01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 4: Copriican injuries too, obviously, I know you're thin as camp,

1430
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 4: but your relationship with Cole is banged up again.

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01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 8: To a guy who's now gone through kind of two

1432
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 8: separate injuries is first.

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01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 2: Two camps here, what do you say.

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Speaker 11: To a guy like him and you talk to kind

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01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 11: of keep his confidence in his spirits up.

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01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 5: Man.

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01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 9: Just adversities is a part of life, and you know

1438
01:14:58,320 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 9: how you handle it.

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01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 5: You know your mind set going through it.

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01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 9: So just keeping just keeping his mind right, just just

1441
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 9: keeping him locked into his process. We talk about that

1442
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 9: a lot here, from from top to bottom in the process.

1443
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 9: So whatever you going through, whatever you're dealing with, you

1444
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 9: know the process of what it takes taking this step

1445
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 9: out the time and you know, not looking too far

1446
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 9: ahead just being in the moment of what you need

1447
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 9: to do right now to make sure that you know

1448
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 9: you could be where you need to be when you're

1449
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 9: trying to be there.

1450
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 5: So you know, that's the mindset. Always we bring up process.

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01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 10: Something that I've always said this morning was that something

1452
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 10: that should out the value has been your consistency.

1453
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 3: Well, how much is that books for.

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01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 2: You you're arounder, especially right now, and sort of what

1455
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 2: pe that process?

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Speaker 9: Stay ask you that, you know, I appreciate that from him,

1457
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 9: especially because you know he he knows me through and throughout.

1458
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 5: You know, he was my safety's coach whenever I first

1459
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 5: got here.

1460
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 9: So to hear him, you know, talk about me being

1461
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 9: consistent is uh, you know, it makes me want to

1462
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 9: be even more consistent.

1463
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 5: And you know I say that.

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01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 9: Because even like all categories of my life, even outside

1465
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 9: the game, that's just one thing that I've been working

1466
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 9: on just in my life, like off the field, just

1467
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 9: you know, as a as a family member, as you know,

1468
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 9: in my love life and everything. You know, I've just

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01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 9: been trying to focus on being consistent. I feel like

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01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 9: that was the last step to take me where I

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01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 9: wanted to go in my life. So to you know,

1472
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 9: emphasize that within myself and then you know, hear my

1473
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 9: coaches who you know, push me the hardest acknowledge that

1474
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 9: within you know my process and see that you know,

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01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 9: it makes me, It makes me proud of myself.

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01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,560
Speaker 5: So it's the personal work that goes into the consistent.

1477
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 9: It is dedication, man, it's it is. It's hard work.

1478
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 9: Like it's it's just sticking to the process. You know,

1479
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 9: getting out of your feelings, you know, because some do

1480
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 9: your feelings is probably what will take you away from

1481
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 9: being consistent specifically as far as its game. And you know,

1482
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 9: one thing I like to tell people is like having

1483
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,600
Speaker 9: access is a great thing, but it can also be

1484
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 9: a distraction. So you know, sometimes when you have all

1485
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 9: that access can getting away your consistency. And you know,

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01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 9: I've realized that over the last few years of my life,

1487
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 9: and that's just something that I wanted to focus on

1488
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 9: to be able to take the more handling as a

1489
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 9: person to the next level, not even just the athlete,

1490
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:17,759
Speaker 9: but just hearing my coach mentioned that, I for surely

1491
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 9: appreciate and then lets me know that I'm right where

1492
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 9: I need to be, and it made me want to

1493
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 9: keep going.

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01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 11: Set he said, You've been with Bobby for so long,

1495
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,600
Speaker 11: so you know what he expects from you.

1496
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1497
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 11: Does that help you become a better player coming in

1498
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 11: here knowing exactly what he expects from you and what

1499
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 11: he wants from you.

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01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, that I think that's everything. I think that's how

1501
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 9: you get freedom as a player. You know, when you

1502
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 9: know your expectations, you know your only job is to

1503
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 9: meet them and to consistently meet him. And we talked

1504
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 9: about that in the spring. Man, if you don't know that,

1505
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 9: if you don't know what's expected of you, how can

1506
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 9: you perform at the highest level. So you know, expectations

1507
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 9: are always clear here, and you know Bobby Babbage holds

1508
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 9: that standard day and day out with everything from top

1509
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 9: to bottom.

1510
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 5: So you know the.

1511
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 9: Expectation is clear. We talk about it day in day out.

1512
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 9: So you know, it's just about preparing the mindset to

1513
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 9: be able to meet that expectation. And you know, within yourself,

1514
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 9: try to, you know, go above and beyond it.

1515
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 10: You're trying to prove this strand yeah, to me, that

1516
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 10: free season.

1517
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 7: You know.

1518
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 9: Nothing, to be honest, And you know, I say that

1519
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 9: very humbly in a way of just like man, I

1520
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 9: got a different perspective than everybody else on life. And uh,

1521
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 9: you know I'm here to work. I'm here to get

1522
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 9: better every day, and you know I have freedom in that.

1523
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 9: And like I said, man, I just want to be

1524
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 9: the best me on and off the field. And uh,

1525
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 9: I use the game of football to to make me

1526
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 9: the best person on and off the field because you

1527
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 9: know my approach to the game, I want to be

1528
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 9: the best. I want excellence out of this game. And

1529
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,919
Speaker 9: you got to do the things that that breed those results.

1530
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 9: So you know, just using you know, I'm I'm pretty

1531
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 9: much just used in the game to make me the

1532
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,719
Speaker 9: best person so that I can operate at the highest

1533
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 9: level within myself in every category, you know, no matter

1534
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 9: what it is, no matter if it's football, no matter

1535
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 9: if it's business, no matter if it's friendships, you know,

1536
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 9: being a son of my parents, like I said, you

1537
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 9: know my love life. You know, I'm just trying to

1538
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 9: be the best version of me in every category. And

1539
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 9: you know, still having a game in my life truly

1540
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 9: allows me to you know, accomplish that. So you know,

1541
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 9: I don't have any expectations. I don't have a stat

1542
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 9: line for nobody. You know, I really look at this

1543
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 9: as bonus, and you know, I'm super glad to be here.

1544
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 5: I'm proud to be here.

1545
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 9: And don't get it twisted, Like you know, I want

1546
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 9: to be the best, like that's that's always been the standard.

1547
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 5: But that's just who I am.

1548
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 9: As soon as I put these paths in this helmet on,

1549
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,799
Speaker 9: it's like it that's the that's the flip that I switch.

1550
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 5: So you know, I don't have no expectations.

1551
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 9: My only expectations for myself is truly just be the

1552
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 9: best meat that I can be and allow the game

1553
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 9: of football to make me the best person I can be.

1554
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 5: To you about Jordan Hancock.

1555
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 9: Everything first and foremost, his personality's hilarious.

1556
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

1557
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 9: I love him already. But you know he's a playmaker

1558
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 9: and he fits right in with our group. Like he

1559
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 9: truly reminds me of guys we have in the room,

1560
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 9: like Terreen Johnson, like cam Lewis, like like our staff, uh,

1561
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 9: our front office, Like we truly know how to pick 'em.

1562
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 9: We truly know how to hand pick guys who fit

1563
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 9: within the culture of what's been built here, and I

1564
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 9: think Jordan Handcoff fits right now.

1565
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 11: Last year we talked.

1566
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 10: About how you're moving into that role for and more

1567
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 10: being a leader on this team. And Jordan younger guys,

1568
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 10: baby Jordan as an example, just what's it like having

1569
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 10: our communication with the younger guys in the room, Like

1570
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 10: you know, you've been in the system for.

1571
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 5: So long, it's unique.

1572
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 9: Honestly, it's unique, just you know, growing from being that

1573
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 9: young guy to now transition into you know, being a

1574
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 9: vet who's passing the knowledge down. You know, I've always

1575
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 9: been the one being the sponge and you know, soaking

1576
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 9: up all the game that I could from the order guys.

1577
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 9: You know, shout out Micaeh, shout out Jordan, shout out

1578
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 9: Jacawan Johnson, shout out.

1579
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 5: Dean Marlow, shout out JT Man.

1580
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 9: All those guys truly like poured everything into me as

1581
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 9: a young guy here. You know, they didn't look at

1582
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 9: me like competition or a guy who was just trying

1583
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 9: to take their spot. You know, they they treated me

1584
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 9: like family day in day out. And you know that's

1585
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 9: the culture here. And you know, as much competition that

1586
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 9: the game breeds and that camp breeds, and you know,

1587
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 9: roster cutdowns breed, you know, we really have a family

1588
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 9: atmosphere where we want everyone to thrive and you know,

1589
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 9: wherever the chips falling in, we.

1590
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 5: Let them fall there.

1591
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 9: But you know, we we make it a family unit.

1592
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 9: And I think that's I think that's why we have

1593
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 9: a lot of success.

1594
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 11: A good a lot of good playing experience. Last year,

1595
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 11: you got a lot of plays, you were in a

1596
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 11: lot of a lot of defenses. As you look back

1597
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 11: at that, now, where are you trying to get better

1598
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 11: this year? When you look back at what you were in,

1599
01:21:58,439 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 11: will accomplished last year?

1600
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 9: Just trying to grow on my game as a whole,

1601
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 9: you know, like last year I feel like I was

1602
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 9: I was trying to prove a lot, you know, just

1603
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 9: like you know, dealing with the Southern cardiac arrests on

1604
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 9: the field and having the world see me as you

1605
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 9: know that moment, you know, I felt like I was

1606
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 9: chasing plays a lot to where like I felt like

1607
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 9: I had to, you know, make plays so that people

1608
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 9: can you know, see me as me as the athlete

1609
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 9: of what I can truly do on the field, you know,

1610
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 9: which you know kind of like had me antsying my

1611
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 9: game a lot in a lot of places because I

1612
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 9: was kind of chasing plays.

1613
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 5: So you know, just.

1614
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 9: Coming back around this year, you know, I truly feel like,

1615
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 9: you know, I accomplished that what I wanted to accomplish.

1616
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 9: So coming around this year, you know, I really have peace.

1617
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 5: You know, I don't. I don't.

1618
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 9: I don't feel any outside world expectations. I'm not worried

1619
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 9: about trying to get anybody's labels off of me or

1620
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 9: anything like that. I'm just truly locked into, you know,

1621
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 9: allowing the game to come to me. I'm focusing on

1622
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 9: my technique, my fund mentals, focusing on my keys and

1623
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 9: slowing the game down, you know, and just letting the

1624
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 9: players come to me off of just executing my job

1625
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 9: within the defense each and every play, and you know,

1626
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 9: just trying to work on my game as a whole,

1627
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 9: like you know, just just technique wise things like that.

1628
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 9: So I feel like that's the biggest difference from last

1629
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 9: year to this year. Last year, I was chasing because

1630
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 9: you know, I wanted to prove myself to my team

1631
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 9: that you know, I can be one of the starters

1632
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 9: on you know, this Buffalo Bills defense again, and you

1633
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 9: know I can be the I can be the guy

1634
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 9: to lead us to where we need to go.

1635
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 5: And you know, I, I truly do feel like I

1636
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 5: proved myself.

1637
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 9: So you know, this year just coming in, I have

1638
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 9: peace with them myself, I have peace within you know,

1639
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 9: my coaches know what I can do. They they know

1640
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 9: who I am as a player, and you know, I'll

1641
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 9: be I'll be me whenever it's time to be me.

1642
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 5: I did he start?

1643
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 10: Was it off season? Was it mini camp? Or like

1644
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 10: kind of when in end of the season, Like where

1645
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 10: did you start to.

1646
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 5: Find out past? Uh?

1647
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 9: Just just like journey within myself a little bit, like

1648
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 9: you know, finishing up the season, just kind of recapping

1649
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 9: and just seeing everything, you know, just looking back. You know,

1650
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 9: obviously you know our goal was to finish number one,

1651
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 9: but you know when you when you look at everything

1652
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 9: you accomplished along the way, you know, that's where that

1653
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 9: peace journey kind of started for myself. And then just

1654
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 9: also just chasing peace within my personal life, you know,

1655
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 9: just slowing things down, getting in the word a little

1656
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 9: bit more, you know, getting into my readings, you know, meditating,

1657
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 9: doing my yoga, uh, things like that.

1658
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 5: That's where the piece started from me.

1659
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 9: I've always been on like a journey searching for peace

1660
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 9: within my life and within myself. So you know, it's

1661
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 9: an ever if it's an ever going journey but that

1662
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 9: I've always been on.

1663
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 5: But it truly started, things truly.

1664
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 9: Started to click, like top of the year, going into

1665
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 9: you know, off season, what he from.

1666
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 10: CD and next what's it like just seeing him with

1667
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 10: another year in the system taking on maybe a big

1668
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 10: ear leadership.

1669
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 5: Role as well.

1670
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 9: And CB has always been who he is, like even

1671
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,719
Speaker 9: behind the scenes when you know the attention wasn't always

1672
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 9: coming his way. He's always been, you know, a godfriend

1673
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 9: man God first. Like we we have sat next to

1674
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 9: each other every year in meetings, like just off of

1675
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 9: a natural connection. You know, he's more of a like

1676
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 9: a quiet soul just like I am.

1677
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 5: But you know, our our.

1678
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 9: Intentions a line, like our spiritual connection the lines and

1679
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 9: you know we don't even have to say much to

1680
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 9: each other, but we understand each other a lot.

1681
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 5: But you know, just seeing CB.

1682
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 9: Grow as a player, like he's a hard worker, like

1683
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 9: he does it the right way, He does everything the

1684
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 9: right way. He don't cut no corners, and he put

1685
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 9: the work in first. And you know, just hearing him

1686
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 9: step up more into a leadership role and become more

1687
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 9: vocal and just spread his message of his approach to

1688
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 9: the game of his process. I think it's what we

1689
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 9: need right now. I think it's truly what we need.

1690
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 9: So I'm definitely I'm definitely glad to see CB continue

1691
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 9: to grow as a leader.

1692
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 2: All Right. That's DeMar Hamlin addressing the media here after

1693
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,759
Speaker 2: practice number ten at training camp at Saint John Fisher.

1694
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 2: Steve and I got to take a break here. One

1695
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 2: segment to go. We'll see if we can squeeze in

1696
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 2: a phone call. Bob in Middleports waiting there patiently. We'll

1697
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 2: get to him when we return here on One Bill's

1698
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 2: Live presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right,

1699
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 2: final segment here from Saint John Fisher for day ten

1700
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 2: of training camp. Only two practices remain out here. Chris Brown,

1701
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:38,680
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you going to get right back to

1702
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 2: the phones at eight oh three zero five point fifty

1703
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 2: one eight eight five point fifty two, five fifty As

1704
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 2: we were asking you today, what receiver on this roster

1705
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 2: do you want to see have a breakout performance in

1706
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 2: camp or the preseason. To Bob in Middleport, we go,

1707
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 2: what's up up?

1708
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 7: Hello?

1709
01:26:58,640 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bobby are there? Go ahead?

1710
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1711
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 3: I just.

1712
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 7: Was that the old rock pile when Joe Namis had

1713
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 7: six interceptions and went on to win the Super Bowl.

1714
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 7: But what I called about was the receivers. And you

1715
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 7: took Coleman, and before that they took a speech there

1716
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 7: went from Kanas Kansas City. Then they came to Buffalo's turn.

1717
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 7: They took Coleman, and San Diego traded up to get

1718
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 7: mc cockney, who's going to be an All Star. He's

1719
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 7: a great receiver, and I just think the Bills made

1720
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:44,759
Speaker 7: a big mistake when they didn't draft him.

1721
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 2: All right, well that's that's your opinion. You're a title

1722
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 2: to it, Bob, But we'll see. Let's just wait and see.

1723
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 2: One year does not a career make.

1724
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're right, those other guys are going to

1725
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 3: be good player because they're drafted up there for a reason.

1726
01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 3: And you know we.

1727
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 2: Would macaw think he's a really good player.

1728
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1729
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 2: I actually saw him play in person at the college level.

1730
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 3: The problem is McConkie's like, he's here here, So you

1731
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 3: don't want two of those guys. He got one, So

1732
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 3: that's kind of the problem. I can see what you're saying,

1733
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 3: and he is a good player.

1734
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 2: But the Bills needed to diversify the skill set at

1735
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,879
Speaker 2: the receiver position on their roster, and that wasn't McConkie.

1736
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 3: You're always going to have that worthy conversation until the

1737
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 3: end of their careers, and we can look back and say, yeah,

1738
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 3: maybe maybe not. We'll see, but I think it's too

1739
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 3: early to tell. Certainly the Chiefs got a lot out

1740
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 3: of Worthy, but I don't know how much you would

1741
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 3: have played if all the other receivers they had were

1742
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 3: gonna be were healthy. He might not have had as

1743
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 3: big a role as that as he did.

1744
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 2: We'll see, uh, Steve quickly well, quickly checking in on

1745
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 2: Dolphin's camp, we heard the quote from Mike McDaniel who said,

1746
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 2: there he what was he?

1747
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 3: What was the guy? Morning coach? He says not, he says,

1748
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 3: you stand corrected. It's not a good morning. It's a

1749
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 3: great morning. They said, why is it a great morning?

1750
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 3: He says, because we're all one day closer to the death.

1751
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 2: Well, what, somebody can end their season soon enough, Mike mcdai.

1752
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 2: Wow Jets update from camp practice over this from Rich

1753
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 2: Semini from ESPN dot com. One of the longer ones

1754
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 2: passing offense struggled again. Fields was four of sixteen with

1755
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 2: a drop offense looked at U syn pass coverage was good,

1756
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 2: Gardner and Stevens on the back end played well. I

1757
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,560
Speaker 2: think the defense is gonna be good for the Jets.

1758
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm a little the jury's still out on that offense.

1759
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 3: We'll see. I don't know. Yes, we'll find out soon enough.

1760
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,759
Speaker 3: They're gonna be competitive. I like Aaron Glenn a lot,

1761
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 3: and they'll fix what's wrong. They'll find ways to be

1762
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 3: their best. We'll see how much their best is.

1763
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 2: That is it for us today here at day ten.

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01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 2: We'll be back in studio at one Bill's Drive tomorrow.

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01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 2: Yahoo Sports NFL analyst Nate Tice joining us tomorrow. We'll

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01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 2: see it one