WEBVTT - *BREAKING* Killer Mom Trial: BREAKING Killer Mom Trial: Lindsay Clancy Speaks For 1st Time, And It Was Significant

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, it is Tuesday, August fourth, and a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a breaking story here is we just heard Lindsey

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<v Speaker 1>Clancy speak in her triple murder trial and what she

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<v Speaker 1>had to say will have a significant impact on this trial.

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<v Speaker 2>And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and

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<v Speaker 2>TJ Rolds. Seems like we can't get a good flow

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<v Speaker 2>to this trial, as crazy as that might sound, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of stopping and starting and this morning

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<v Speaker 2>once again supposed to start at nine am.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a delay, yes, and the delay was revealed

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<v Speaker 3>when we got to hear Lindsey Clancy speak for the

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<v Speaker 3>very first time outside of the jury but literally it's

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<v Speaker 3>the first time we've heard her voice actually in that courtroom.

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<v Speaker 3>And what she was agreeing to, as you mentioned, is

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<v Speaker 3>going to change the timeline of this trial.

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<v Speaker 2>And it does it make sense, Rhode so because as

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<v Speaker 2>it was happening, we were a little confused, like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>what are they doing and what are they agreeing to?

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<v Speaker 2>And then after we heard it all, we go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that makes sense. I guess why didn't we do this before?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it kind of where we land?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, because basically, this is a murder trial that is

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<v Speaker 3>incredibly and exceptionally rare, because the defense is not trying

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<v Speaker 3>to defend against a killing, against a murder, it's trying

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<v Speaker 3>to defend whether or not their client, or whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not Lindsay Clancy was criminally responsible.

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<v Speaker 4>She admits to killing her children.

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<v Speaker 3>So all of this evidence that you would typically see

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<v Speaker 3>the prosecution introduced to establish through DNA, through blood evidence,

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<v Speaker 3>through physical evidence that the defendant killed the victims, all

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<v Speaker 3>of that kind of seems unnecessary in this case because

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<v Speaker 3>she's saying, yeah, it was me, all that DNA evidence,

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<v Speaker 3>all that blood, all of my DNA on those exercise bands, etc.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it's mine. I cop to it, I admit it.

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<v Speaker 4>It was me.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, it seems strange in the trial of this magnitude

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<v Speaker 2>Roges talking about three murders of three very young children,

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<v Speaker 2>that someone is not fighting the prosecution on the key

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<v Speaker 2>elements and facts and evidence of the case. Yes, that

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<v Speaker 2>is bizarre, and it also is Rogues, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not used to this. But she did it, but

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<v Speaker 2>she might not be criminally responsible. So what we saw

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<v Speaker 2>in court this morning was them trying to get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of the extra stuff and let's all.

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<v Speaker 5>Just focus on the part we disagree about. Is that right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? Because think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>When we first came into this trial, I believe there

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<v Speaker 3>were upwards of two hundred potential witnesses between the prosecution

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<v Speaker 3>and the defense, and look, they put every possible witness

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<v Speaker 3>on that list.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not that all of.

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<v Speaker 3>Those folks were necessarily going to be called to testify,

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<v Speaker 3>but they could have been. And this with this admission,

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<v Speaker 3>or at least this agreement that was made in court today,

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<v Speaker 3>it could massively shorten the list of witnesses prosecutors will

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<v Speaker 3>now have to call to the stand because they don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to prove something that she's already admitting to.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned that list, Yeah, two hundred potential witnesses robes,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been shot. I don't know the total count. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>what time they get out of court on Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>Three forty five, and they called thirteen witnesses to the stand.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty stunning. And the reason they're going through them

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<v Speaker 2>so quickly is because the prosecution only has a few

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<v Speaker 2>questions to ask a detective or a lab tech or

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes even a nurse. The defense is like cooleah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>how many times did you just said no questions?

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<v Speaker 3>Johanna, No, cross examination whatsoever, because they're not disputing the

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<v Speaker 3>evidence that's being introduced.

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<v Speaker 4>So yes, I'm just saying so when.

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<v Speaker 3>The judge says we are our ears perked up and

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<v Speaker 3>we were very interested in what was happening. When you

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<v Speaker 3>hear a judge ask a defendant who's standing up there

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<v Speaker 3>before the trial even gets underwear for the day, and says,

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<v Speaker 3>do you agree that the Commonwealth does not have to

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<v Speaker 3>prove the facts that are in the stipulation?

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<v Speaker 4>And she says, yes, you never hear that. You just

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<v Speaker 4>don't in a trial, you just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>So there were several, as he said, Robes stipulations, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was one thing that they gave up. So yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they come into court, immediately go to a sidebar, so

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<v Speaker 2>we're standing by and where waiting. Court comes back into

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<v Speaker 2>session but still without the jury, and this is when

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<v Speaker 2>all this is going on. So she's addressing the court,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course she is still seated because she is paralyzed.

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<v Speaker 2>She is in that wheelchair. But Robes, given what we

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<v Speaker 2>have seen the past couple of days with her crying

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<v Speaker 2>and emotional testimonies, she robes, for lack of a better phrase,

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<v Speaker 2>she seemed as sane as anybody in answering those questions.

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<v Speaker 3>She did that was notable to me too, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>understand that this postpartum psychosis was episodic and perhaps confined

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<v Speaker 3>to this p period of time in.

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<v Speaker 4>Which these atrocities.

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<v Speaker 3>Took place, but still it is strange to hear a

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<v Speaker 3>woman who is capable of doing what she did and was,

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<v Speaker 3>according to her attorney, in a mindset that was altered

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<v Speaker 3>where you are certifiably they're claiming clinically medically insane. It's

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<v Speaker 3>then strange to see that person seemingly lucid answering questions, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>your honor, Yes, I understand your honor.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you don't expect that.

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<v Speaker 2>Brott Robes this is and I would encourage people to

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<v Speaker 2>watch because there are folks out there writing who are

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<v Speaker 2>taking issue with how this case is being covered and

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<v Speaker 2>even with how the prosecution is handling this case.

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<v Speaker 5>It is giving this if you listen to the prosecution.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of a warped idea of what psychosis is, what

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<v Speaker 2>postpartum psychosis can be, what mental illness.

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<v Speaker 5>Can look like. And Robes she's showing.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen doctors sit up there and say, yeah, she

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<v Speaker 2>could be in psychosis, but have a perfectly normal conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with me and make plans so robes. They say, this

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<v Speaker 2>woman still wants to kill herself, is still in manick

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<v Speaker 2>states at times.

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<v Speaker 5>And she sat there and she calmly, very lucidly.

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<v Speaker 2>Answered his questions and seemed to fully understand it does

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<v Speaker 2>in the attorney, the defense attorney, he used the word

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<v Speaker 2>drooling like this is this idea that if somebody's quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote crazy, they're supposed to.

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<v Speaker 5>Look a certain way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's supposed to be lashing out and they can't keep

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<v Speaker 2>it together in their crazy eyes.

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<v Speaker 4>And erratic behavior ropes they are.

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<v Speaker 5>This is an important one to keep an eye on.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, and it is fascinating to watch this all

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<v Speaker 3>take place, and it is fascinating to hear her be

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<v Speaker 3>able to to answer the questions the way she did.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm curious, like my brain goes somewhere where.

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<v Speaker 4>If you are putting.

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<v Speaker 3>On a defense, an insanity defense, say postpartum psychosis defense,

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<v Speaker 3>if you are claiming that you aren't respond for your actions,

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<v Speaker 3>how then can you be responsible for even your words?

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're agreeing to this, how can you even

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<v Speaker 3>agree to this if your whole defense is that you

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<v Speaker 3>aren't responsible for your actions and reactions and maybe even

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<v Speaker 3>your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>See and that is where and it is fascinating robes,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're getting an education in psychosis to where you

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<v Speaker 2>can go into it and come out of it. You

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<v Speaker 2>could be into it, for it can come in and out.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be an episode that lasts a little while

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't have another one the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>In robes, it is when we have insanity defenses.

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<v Speaker 5>We usually see.

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<v Speaker 2>Some some defendants robes that are sometimes acting up, seemingly

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<v Speaker 2>out of control. You can't reason with them. These are

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<v Speaker 2>folks who oftentimes they cannot help with their defense.

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<v Speaker 4>Right she is, she's not that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're learning something else robes about it insanity defense that

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen play out like this before.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's crying at the appropriate times. And I say

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<v Speaker 3>that meaning she is crying when we want to cry.

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<v Speaker 3>She's reacting emotionally to things that should be reacted emotionally too.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet at the same time, she was capable of

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<v Speaker 3>doing something that I would say the let's hope the

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<v Speaker 3>vast majority ninety nine point nine percent of mothers would

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<v Speaker 3>be incapable of doing so. It's hard to actually get

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<v Speaker 3>your head around what we're witnessing, what we're seeing, and

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<v Speaker 3>trying to understand what her defense is explaining to all

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<v Speaker 3>of us. And so far, look, they haven't even necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>put on their defense, but through some of the cross

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<v Speaker 3>examination of some of these forensic psychologists or psychiatrists, we

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<v Speaker 3>are seeing where they're headed with their defense and how

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<v Speaker 3>they're trying to set up and establish a documented case

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<v Speaker 3>of Certainly, I don't I mean, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>anyone could dispute the fact that she was suffering mentally.

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<v Speaker 3>Now whether or not that crosses into a line of

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<v Speaker 3>psychosis or not being held responsible for your actions, but

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<v Speaker 3>clearly she was mentally troubled.

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<v Speaker 4>I think everyone can agree with that.

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<v Speaker 5>Agreed.

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<v Speaker 3>Where's the line when you don't become when you aren't

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<v Speaker 3>criminally responsible.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've heard too from two doctors from the prosecution

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<v Speaker 2>already who have confirmed to me that what she went

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<v Speaker 2>through and how is.

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<v Speaker 5>Possible brooks the defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember we were all shocked when during Diddy's trial,

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<v Speaker 2>after all those witnesses from the prosecution, they rested without

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<v Speaker 2>calling anybody because they were able to prove their case

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<v Speaker 2>by using the prosecution's witness And so far the defense

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be doing that. The stipulation what is in

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<v Speaker 2>the first place, legally speaking, it is an agreement between

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<v Speaker 2>the parties about the basic facts of the case. We

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<v Speaker 2>agree to this stuff. We don't need to bring in

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen witnesses to talk about it. So what did she

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<v Speaker 2>give up? No right anymore to cross examine certain witnesses.

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<v Speaker 2>The state no longer has the burden to prove all

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<v Speaker 2>the elements of the charges beyond a reasonable doubt.

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<v Speaker 5>That is Robes.

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<v Speaker 2>That is something you would never see, never in a

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<v Speaker 2>case that burden is so high. But what they've charged

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<v Speaker 2>her with, Robes is first degree murder. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>prove that beyond a reasonable doubt. Don't have to anymore

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<v Speaker 2>because they're admitting that first degree murder and everything you're

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<v Speaker 2>saying about it where we agree with Yeah, now we

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<v Speaker 2>need to go argue about whether or not I am

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<v Speaker 2>criminally irresponsible for that.

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<v Speaker 3>She not only admits to doing it, she admits to

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<v Speaker 3>planning it the whole thing. She admits to acting on

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<v Speaker 3>those plans. She admits to actually going through with those plans.

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<v Speaker 3>I just it was one of those really fascinating moments

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<v Speaker 3>when the judge followed up because he kept asking her

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<v Speaker 3>different versions of the same question to make sure it

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<v Speaker 3>was on the record, and then she fully understood. But

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, you are basically relieving the Commonwealth of its

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<v Speaker 3>burden to prove certain facts. Is that what you want

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<v Speaker 3>to do? Lindsey Clancy answers, yes, your honor.

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<v Speaker 2>That was stunning, calmly right the whole time, said I've

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<v Speaker 2>talked to my I'll worry about it. I've had time

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<v Speaker 2>to review it. Nobody's forcing me into it, and so

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<v Speaker 2>here we got rose. I don't know what the timing

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<v Speaker 2>could be, but this could cut off a lot of witnesses,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of time in this case because so far

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<v Speaker 2>Rows we've actually seen a lot of witnesses they could

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<v Speaker 2>have done without.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely so they were trying to establish stuff that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>need to be established because it's not disputed. And so

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<v Speaker 3>now you can move forward either with fewer folks on

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<v Speaker 3>the stand or certainly it will go much quicker because

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<v Speaker 3>now the defense has completely given up its right to

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<v Speaker 3>cross examined. So regardless, this is absolutely going to speed

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<v Speaker 3>up a trial that was already on track, if not

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<v Speaker 3>ahead of schedule. So that is good news for the

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<v Speaker 3>jurors and look, I would imagine this would be good.

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<v Speaker 4>News for Lindsay Clancy.

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<v Speaker 3>In the sense that does she really want to sit

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<v Speaker 3>through all of this blood evidence and DNA evidence and

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<v Speaker 3>in doing so reliving those exact moments that she wants

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<v Speaker 3>to forget, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, to that point, I had a question for you

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<v Speaker 2>that I'll ask right after the break, and we'll also

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<v Speaker 2>give you an update that we got from the judge

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<v Speaker 2>about the schedule now and what's going to happen moving

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<v Speaker 2>forward in this trial. We continue here on Amy and TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Just getting a short time ago. Didn't plan on doing

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<v Speaker 2>this episode today, but got an update, a significant one

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<v Speaker 2>out of the courtroom for the Lindsay Clancy trial, and

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<v Speaker 2>that she agreed to certain stipulations which is going to

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<v Speaker 2>shorten the trial. Essentially, what they're saying, we've agreed to

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<v Speaker 2>the defense of the prosecution. We agreed to so many

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<v Speaker 2>of the facts of the case. No reason to keep

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<v Speaker 2>putting on witnesses. So she's given up a right to

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<v Speaker 2>cross examines of witnesses, giving up a right some rights,

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<v Speaker 2>but still the argument is over whether or not she

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<v Speaker 2>was insane or not. Now Robes, my thought was, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>this speeds things along, But who does this help if

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<v Speaker 2>the jury doesn't have to sit through all of that

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<v Speaker 2>evidence because robes, it is impactful to see those elastic

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<v Speaker 2>bands of the murder weapon. It's impactful to hear about

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<v Speaker 2>blood evidence. It's impactful to hear all this stuff. Does

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<v Speaker 2>it help them in some way the defense of the

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<v Speaker 2>prosecution if the jury isn't sitting.

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<v Speaker 5>Through that, Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you could look at it from both sides,

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<v Speaker 3>because I thought about that too. Does the prosecution lose

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<v Speaker 3>some of that emotional impact?

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<v Speaker 4>Look, the first week was gutting.

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<v Speaker 3>It was one of the more emotional, if not the

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<v Speaker 3>most emotional week I've ever witnessed in a trial, because

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<v Speaker 3>they did see those exercise bands, and they did hear

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<v Speaker 3>that nine to one one call, And they did hear

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<v Speaker 3>from first responders and the EMTs and the firefighters who

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<v Speaker 3>showed up and talked about the scene they walked into.

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<v Speaker 3>They heard from the emergency room doctors who tried to

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<v Speaker 3>save those children's lives who were brain dead, whose hearts

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<v Speaker 3>had stopped. So all of that emotional testimony is already

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<v Speaker 3>into evidence, perhaps even not having to dwell on the

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<v Speaker 3>minutia of the technical aspect of DNA and blood spatter

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<v Speaker 3>and fingerprint and all the other perhaps evidence, the chain

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<v Speaker 3>of command proving that.

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<v Speaker 4>They followed proper procedure. All of that can.

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<v Speaker 3>Really weigh down a trial, the momentum, maybe even a

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<v Speaker 3>jury's or a juror's attention span. So maybe everyone can

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<v Speaker 3>actually be focused. Maybe this helps both sides and that

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<v Speaker 3>the real issue, the actual issue as to whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not she was insane or sane, whether she was suffering

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<v Speaker 3>from postpartum psychosis or not. The focus, that is what

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<v Speaker 3>jurors are trying to figure out. So maybe by really

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<v Speaker 3>zeroing in on that, we'll actually get to a better

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<v Speaker 3>outcome without all of the exhausting technical evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>See I wondered if if it helped the defense by

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<v Speaker 2>getting rid of the some technical testimony, what's.

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<v Speaker 5>Left is a bunch of emotional stuff. Robes.

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<v Speaker 2>If the emotional stuff, I was overwhelmed last week with

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<v Speaker 2>that testimony, and I was just watching it from New York. Robes,

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<v Speaker 2>They're sitting in there taking this stuff in, and the

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<v Speaker 2>judge even last week you had to acknowledge them crying

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<v Speaker 2>and emotional in the courtroom. So Robes, if you eliminate

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<v Speaker 2>the technical stuff, it's almost we watch horror movies a lot, Robes,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're relieved when it's daytime in a movie because

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<v Speaker 2>that means we have a break. We don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be emotional and into it. He just can let your

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<v Speaker 2>shoulders down, Robes, they stay on emotional edge. If they

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<v Speaker 2>stay on emotional edge the whole time and you get

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<v Speaker 2>to the end, are they going to be mad at

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<v Speaker 2>her or sympathized with her more?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but I don't know either.

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<v Speaker 5>That was my thought.

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<v Speaker 2>The technical stuff just at least gives you a break,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe they need to refocus on stuff besides emotion,

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<v Speaker 2>because emotion you are with the Clancy family.

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<v Speaker 5>On emotion, I wouldn't unless.

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<v Speaker 3>You're angry, unless you're angry at her.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, it's so subjective.

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<v Speaker 3>As you point out this emotional side of it, I

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<v Speaker 3>hadn't thought about the fact that the technical evidence, the

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<v Speaker 3>forensic evidence, the physical evidence, in a way is a

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<v Speaker 3>break from the emotional evidence and allows you to focus

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<v Speaker 3>on the science. Because I feel like, look, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>heavy burden to be a juror, especially in a trial

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<v Speaker 3>like this, because a woman's life is on the line,

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<v Speaker 3>and what you're saying about women's mental health, what you're

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<v Speaker 3>saying about what women may be going through, what you're acknowledging,

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<v Speaker 3>what you're all of. That is a heavy burden to

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<v Speaker 3>feel when you know that your vote, you have to

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<v Speaker 3>have a unanimous vote. So what you think, what you feel,

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<v Speaker 3>your impressions of her and the case could not only

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<v Speaker 3>just affect Lindsey Clancy and her family, but other women

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<v Speaker 3>to come potentially.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're gonna get twelve people to agree that this

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<v Speaker 2>lady was not suffering.

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<v Speaker 5>Again, it's early baby. This is just the second week.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and they keep.

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<v Speaker 5>That in mind.

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<v Speaker 3>They said this was going to go four to six weeks, perhaps,

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<v Speaker 3>so initially we don't know how much time this big

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<v Speaker 3>event this morning shaved off, but at least I would

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<v Speaker 3>imagine a couple days from where they thought they would

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<v Speaker 3>be anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>We were four last week.

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<v Speaker 2>They were supposed to start, well, they did start on Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>but they were off on Tuesday. Yeah, so only got

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<v Speaker 2>four days of testimony in the first week. And the

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<v Speaker 2>judge was already saying, we're ahead of schedule. So maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they were already ahead. Now this does what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we looking at a couple few week trial versus

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<v Speaker 2>a month and a half two month trial. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>know yet, but he already has acknowledged what time are

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<v Speaker 2>they getting out today, Baby.

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<v Speaker 3>They're getting out today around the same time as they

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<v Speaker 3>did yesterday. But tomorrow is the truncated day. We're not

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<v Speaker 3>sure what they're going to be talking about in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 3>but he already made it clear that he needs to

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<v Speaker 3>speak with the lawyers with both sides of the legal

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<v Speaker 3>teams in the afternoon, So they're only going to go

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<v Speaker 3>to one o'clock tomorrow, but they'll have a day until

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<v Speaker 3>three four o'clock this afternoon, and we will continue to

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<v Speaker 3>monitor what happens in the Lindsay Clancy killer mom trial

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<v Speaker 3>there in Massachusetts. For you in the meantime, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for listening to us. As always, we appreciate you. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Amy Roeboch alongside TJ.

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<v Speaker 4>Holmes. We'll talk soon.