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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, August eighteenth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,
Speaker 1: episode number ten. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: We are alive from the s WBC Mortgage studios at
Speaker 1: the Star. Got Nate, got Dave Hellman and Nick Eatman
Speaker 1: with me. We got a lot of things we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about today. We'll talk about the Cowboys night practice
Speaker 1: from Monday night and guess observations from these guys and
Speaker 1: some things that they may have seen and heard during
Speaker 1: that night. We'll also talk about the Cowboys first cut
Speaker 1: they get down to eighty five players. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: some of the players that are no longer on the team,
Speaker 1: and a couple of interesting cuts around the league that
Speaker 1: I want to get some opinions from these guys on
Speaker 1: whether they think the Cowboys should maybe take a look.
Speaker 1: We'll maybe get around of I get around. I've got
Speaker 1: a couple of players. I want to throw up these
Speaker 1: guys to see what their thoughts are on them, and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna hear from you guys if you want
Speaker 1: to call us. The numbers eight eight eight eight five
Speaker 1: five two two ninety seven again it is eight eight
Speaker 1: eight eight five five two two nine seven, And we'll
Speaker 1: take some calls in the latter half of the show.
Speaker 1: How's everybody doing it? Awesome, Derek, let's freaking go awesome,
Speaker 1: get it going, Dave, let's start with you. Actually, Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy had his daily press conference. What do you have
Speaker 1: to say? I probably wouldn't look for Dak Prescott on
Speaker 1: Saturday night if I were you, And I mean, that's
Speaker 1: a pretty logical conclusion, but I appreciate Mike kind of
Speaker 1: just saying it. I'm saying, you know, probably unlikely that
Speaker 1: a guy who hasn't practiced fully since July twenty eight
Speaker 1: won't play the quarterback. You know, just now ramping up
Speaker 1: is throwing so uh, you know, sorry, everybody, but I
Speaker 1: think that the next time we see Dak in a
Speaker 1: game is going to be against Tampa in front of
Speaker 1: the whole world. So okay, Dave, I know you're not
Speaker 1: worried about that, because we know your take on preseason.
Speaker 1: I would I like my of course, I want everybody
Speaker 1: to stay healthy, But like I understand why that is
Speaker 1: concerning for somebody that your first reps in almost a year,
Speaker 1: you know eleven months, are going to be a regular
Speaker 1: season opener against the team that just won the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl and has everybody back. Yeah, that should be concerning.
Speaker 1: Is it concerning for Unick? Yeah? Yeah, but it would
Speaker 1: be concerning if he went out and played like that.
Speaker 1: You know, this is one of those things, and I've
Speaker 1: said this before, doesn't start with Dak. It starts with
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Are they all gonna play because it's
Speaker 1: tiring out there? I mean, I'm not putting I'm not
Speaker 1: putting Dak out there if the whole line isn't there.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna start there and see and I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if that you know who's all gonna be playing there?
Speaker 1: But you know, you can say this rest versus rust,
Speaker 1: is a handful of snaps going to really help him
Speaker 1: that much? Was it worth the risk? Because then he's
Speaker 1: gonna sit it out for two and a half more weeks.
Speaker 1: So if I'm just not playing him, I will say,
Speaker 1: which they shouldn't play him if he's not ready, that's fine,
Speaker 1: I will say. It's not rust for me. That bothers me.
Speaker 1: But I do I believe in the element of you know,
Speaker 1: you probably want to get hit and get up and
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, I'm all right. I got leveled by
Speaker 1: an NFL defensive lineman and I'm still healthy and my
Speaker 1: ankle's not broken. I think there's a mental component to that.
Speaker 1: I would have preferred for him, And he's talked about it, Dak,
Speaker 1: like his first press conference of camp, he was like,
Speaker 1: I want to get out there and take a hit
Speaker 1: and just be back in the groove of playing football,
Speaker 1: play to play, And he's not gonna get to do
Speaker 1: that now until the season opener. I wish he could
Speaker 1: have gotten that out of the way. But as far
Speaker 1: as rust, I don't really worry about that. You know,
Speaker 1: this brings up a little bit of a bigger topic
Speaker 1: and you some nickel what that is rust? I mean?
Speaker 1: But I mean, but everything you just said, I don't
Speaker 1: think of that as rust. I think it's just what
Speaker 1: is it that I mean, like it seems like it's
Speaker 1: kind of the same thing everything you wanted him to
Speaker 1: kind of get it's to probably rust to me implies
Speaker 1: that like his timing with his receivers is off, and
Speaker 1: he just you know, they're not on the same page.
Speaker 1: Like I don't don't worry about it, or like, you know,
Speaker 1: the way that he's reading what the defense is doing
Speaker 1: because he hasn't done it in so long. I don't
Speaker 1: worry about that. I just think, you know, it's like, uh,
Speaker 1: it's like getting into a swimming pool, just acclimating to
Speaker 1: the you know, the temperature of the water. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't think of that as rust. Maybe it is
Speaker 1: either way. I mean, I think we're kind of saying
Speaker 1: the same thing. You just want him to kind of
Speaker 1: you don't want the first time to get back in
Speaker 1: it going up against the buck, but that that is
Speaker 1: the way it's going to be, and it's everything's a
Speaker 1: risk reward, I mean, is it is it worth it?
Speaker 1: You know? Romo wanted that in twenty sixteen. Romo remember
Speaker 1: remember how much he had missed in twenty fifteen. He
Speaker 1: needed those plays until his back got crunched over in Seattle,
Speaker 1: and then that changed the franchise, maybe for the better.
Speaker 1: And you know, because Dak came in and Zeke and
Speaker 1: that whole year was was what it was. But I
Speaker 1: mean it's the same concept it was. Romo needed a
Speaker 1: few snaps, but he doesn't know how. He didn't know
Speaker 1: how to just not play the game right, you know,
Speaker 1: not to play that preseason game and does Dak is
Speaker 1: dad gonna take off? I'll never forget fourth preseason game
Speaker 1: against Houston one year it was like ninety three, ninety
Speaker 1: four or playing I think in the in the Astrodome
Speaker 1: or the Alamodome, and he flipped over I think it
Speaker 1: was he flipped over the top for a touchdown. It
Speaker 1: had to be in ninety two or ninety three because
Speaker 1: Jimmy was the coaching He was touchdown and he flipped
Speaker 1: over the top. Troy Atman fourth preseason, fourth preseason game
Speaker 1: and he and he comes over and everyone's congratulating him
Speaker 1: except Jimmy. He was like, you're an idiot, you're stupid.
Speaker 1: You might have thrown us some other words in there,
Speaker 1: like what are you doing? And he's like playing football,
Speaker 1: you know, but that's what it is. So if Dak's
Speaker 1: gonna be that way, other than now, let's go Sunflower Seeds.
Speaker 1: I do think this brings up a little bit of
Speaker 1: a bigger topic though, when you Mike McCarthy talked about
Speaker 1: the fact the third preseason game, which will be the
Speaker 1: fourth preseason game for the Cowboys because they had a
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game, he said that game is going
Speaker 1: to be for the guys trying to make the team.
Speaker 1: I heard this morning when I was on my drive in.
Speaker 1: They were talking about the Giants, and it made me
Speaker 1: think about the juxtaposition. They actually are looking at the
Speaker 1: third preseason game as their address rehearsal. They're thinking of
Speaker 1: it as that's our ramp up to the season. So
Speaker 1: we'll probably start our starters and have them play a
Speaker 1: quarter or two so that they work into that following
Speaker 1: because you do have that weekend between the final preseason
Speaker 1: game in the beginning of the season. They're thinking that's
Speaker 1: more of a ramp up. Which do you think could
Speaker 1: be a better strategy for a team, Well, for this
Speaker 1: team the way they're doing it. Because we've got to remember,
Speaker 1: the Giants don't play Thursday night like the Cowboys do.
Speaker 1: The Giants can do that and they still get fifteen
Speaker 1: to sixteen days before they play their next game, the
Speaker 1: cow And I'm not saying it's it's just a short turnaround,
Speaker 1: but it's it's ten days, you know. I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are the only Sunday preseason game on August twenty
Speaker 1: ninth because of the NFL network, you know, that just
Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem right. And there's no reason to
Speaker 1: complain about it and all that, but it's just they
Speaker 1: are the last preseason game, and they are the first
Speaker 1: season game too, and they were the first one, right
Speaker 1: you know. And it's and that's what this this star
Speaker 1: right here that I'm pointing to, that's what this star
Speaker 1: is all about. That's that's what Jason Garrett says. It
Speaker 1: comes with a dinner. But it's it's it's it's different.
Speaker 1: It's got to be different for other teams because McCarthy's
Speaker 1: trying to get them ready for the September ninth game.
Speaker 1: So that's why probably why he's doing it this way
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, that's a that's a good question, and
Speaker 1: I don't have a great answer to it. I'll just say,
Speaker 1: if you're going to do that, I hope you make
Speaker 1: sure the other team is planning on doing that. The
Speaker 1: same way, because if the Giants are sending their starters
Speaker 1: out against somebody who's treating it like you know, friends,
Speaker 1: roster guys, that's stupid. I would never do that. Like
Speaker 1: what last night's Hard Knocks episode was a great example.
Speaker 1: Why if you watched it, a phenomenal story about Azour Kamara,
Speaker 1: but you know he's back in the depth chart. He's
Speaker 1: trying to make things happen. And he clipped Garrett Gilbert
Speaker 1: like twice try you know, trying to make a play,
Speaker 1: not trying to make the team, not knowing the ins
Speaker 1: and outs of practice, not necessarily worried about the long term.
Speaker 1: You know, he's worried about making the team and yell
Speaker 1: out and they're like, don't touch the quarterback, my guy.
Speaker 1: And you got a team full of guys like that
Speaker 1: playing a lot of times. In the finale game, it's
Speaker 1: it's a messy game. You've watched them, You've watched plenty
Speaker 1: of them. It's awful, it's terrible. So I just I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to send the guys I'm counting on to
Speaker 1: win me games out against guys like that. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: also to clarify that, like obviously it's a game so
Speaker 1: those guys, you know, you're going to go full tilt.
Speaker 1: But just like in practice where Kamar Win a little
Speaker 1: too much and hit, you know, hit Gilbert on the arm,
Speaker 1: in a game, he might go too far and just
Speaker 1: and have a penalty like roughing the passer penalty or
Speaker 1: something like that. Even though you're allowed to hit and
Speaker 1: tackle and do everything, but you don't want that. You
Speaker 1: don't want a guy's agenda to try to make the
Speaker 1: team going up, you know, because he's gonna been the
Speaker 1: rules and he's gonna do whatever he you know, it
Speaker 1: takes for him to be noticed. So yeah, and I
Speaker 1: do think the coaches do talk about it. I do
Speaker 1: think Cowboys and Jaguars have talked about it because I
Speaker 1: believe at one point Jacksonville was supposed to be the
Speaker 1: dress rehearsal and it may it just have been like
Speaker 1: what is Jacksonville trying to do? What Cowboys want to do?
Speaker 1: Injury wise? So I think I think somebody asked me
Speaker 1: this question, is it what their plan is? And I
Speaker 1: think it's got to be a year to year thing.
Speaker 1: I would imagine next year could be totally different. On
Speaker 1: three preseason games. You know, we're also an uncharted territory, right,
Speaker 1: this first time that you're gonna have that, teams are
Speaker 1: going to have other than Cowboys and Steelers are gonna
Speaker 1: have three preseason games, and this first time everybody's gonna
Speaker 1: have seventeen regular season games. So I also wonder the
Speaker 1: more regular season games they add to this, how much
Speaker 1: does Week one really And I know every game matters,
Speaker 1: but I wonder how much, you know, getting off to
Speaker 1: that hot start really matters if you know it can
Speaker 1: the month of September, those first two to three games,
Speaker 1: can those big games where you do kind of work
Speaker 1: your starters into a little bit more of a ladder
Speaker 1: rather than having to figure that out in the preseason
Speaker 1: because you've got seventeen games or if it goes at
Speaker 1: eighteen or whatever the case might be. Right, I think
Speaker 1: that's yeah. I think that's a byproduct of the way
Speaker 1: the league is right now, which I mean I'm in
Speaker 1: favor of it's a more health conscious, player friendly league,
Speaker 1: but just in general, I think for a few years now,
Speaker 1: like september's kind of ugly. While these teams get there,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not you used to practice twice a
Speaker 1: day and like leave your starters in for a lot
Speaker 1: of your preseason games. Now you don't. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: so if this is the dress rehearsal on Saturday, like
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper is going to go into the season probably
Speaker 1: with ten reps under his belt, Dac will have none,
Speaker 1: like Tank will have none. Yeah, and so yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's the new norm, is playing your way into
Speaker 1: game shape over the course of the first five or
Speaker 1: six weeks. Yeah. I think the best way to say it,
Speaker 1: That's what Dave said is it's a byproduct. Is it ideal?
Speaker 1: And you're never gonna get a scout player to say, well,
Speaker 1: we got a lot of these games. You know. This
Speaker 1: isn't like load management type stuff like the NBA, but
Speaker 1: it is what it is. I mean, you're gonna you're
Speaker 1: gonna just say, well, you know, we don't have the
Speaker 1: other options. So we're not one hundred percent ready than
Speaker 1: it is what it is. We hope to win these games,
Speaker 1: but we we all think that we're gonna be in better,
Speaker 1: you know, in tune with the team in October than
Speaker 1: we will be in September, just because of the way
Speaker 1: the NFLPA and the NFL structured it. All. Right, let's
Speaker 1: jump into Cowboys Night. Cowboys have their annual event last
Speaker 1: Monday Night, too real quickly that when that spiraled. But
Speaker 1: so Amari Cooper is expected to play Saturday. Just anybody
Speaker 1: that was curious. And it sounds like there's going to
Speaker 1: be a new kicker punter in camp as well. I
Speaker 1: think Hunter Nice Wanders kicker or punter or boat kicker punter.
Speaker 1: He's gonna yeah, one guy, Hunter Nice Wander, same thing. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's apparently banged up, So look for them to sign
Speaker 1: a guy by the name of Lirium Hodja who he's Canadian.
Speaker 1: He's been in the CFL for a long time. Are
Speaker 1: you guys worried about the kicking position? I mean, the
Speaker 1: kicker punter like both. I'm and maybe it's just me,
Speaker 1: but the fact that the kicker has been hurt throughout
Speaker 1: all this time, it does worry me a little bit,
Speaker 1: just because of his age and because you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago he was injured and he didn't
Speaker 1: have a great season, And I'm just a little bit worried,
Speaker 1: are you guys at all? I don't think those are
Speaker 1: the same thing. He had a groin that year that
Speaker 1: lingered with him all year, and this year. He had
Speaker 1: back surgery months ago, and he was he was kicking
Speaker 1: in Arizona. He kicked for like a half hour and
Speaker 1: he made him all. I was like, okay, you look
Speaker 1: fine at me. If I was the fifty third guy
Speaker 1: on the roster, I'd be worried about it, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, no one knows who that is, but it
Speaker 1: might have to always just yeah, because the thing about
Speaker 1: it is is that you get to Tuesday of the game.
Speaker 1: When I'll say Tuesday, it's a Thursday game. But I
Speaker 1: mean if you get to the to the week of
Speaker 1: the game, you know, four or five, six days before
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay game and zero lions, not one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: then you're gonna you're gonna end up getting You're gonna
Speaker 1: get somebody else, and you're gonna go to the waiver
Speaker 1: wire and you're gonna get a who do we have?
Speaker 1: Two years ago, it made every kick I forgot his name, no, no,
Speaker 1: after that, everybody in the league, yeah, yeah, yeah. You've
Speaker 1: been in every every place in the league and you
Speaker 1: get still out there somebody, well you're probably I think
Speaker 1: he's he's somewhere. Well, mean, you get a guy like that,
Speaker 1: and and you know, they don't have to learn offense
Speaker 1: or anything. They come in and they kick. But the
Speaker 1: problem is you're gonna you're gonna have to cut a player,
Speaker 1: you know, on your team just to get him in
Speaker 1: the roster on the roster. So I'm not one hundred
Speaker 1: percent worried about it. He's not on a team. I
Speaker 1: thought he was. I thought somebody had mentioned he was
Speaker 1: a free agent somebody like that. They'll do a tryout,
Speaker 1: bring him back, kai come back. All right, let's jump in.
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about the Cowboys night. I
Speaker 1: want to get some observations from you guys. Let's start
Speaker 1: with a Mark Cooper Dave. You just mentioned he's going
Speaker 1: to be expect it to play this week. Uh, he
Speaker 1: did return to practice on Monday. What did you guys
Speaker 1: see from him? How much was he used? I saw
Speaker 1: a lot more than I expected to from a guy
Speaker 1: who hadn't done anything like you know typically that's a
Speaker 1: very slow process. That Marcus Lawrence did individuals for fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes and then ran back to get treatment a mari state.
Speaker 1: He went through individuals. I actually asked him this. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, what was their plan for you?
Speaker 1: Because I wasn't expecting you to see team, and he
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it was up to me, which I didn't.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not usually that, Like Dak Prescott's
Speaker 1: a perfect example, Like they tell you what they want
Speaker 1: you to do. But a Mari said he went through
Speaker 1: individuals and was like, I feel good. I want to
Speaker 1: do some team. So he did, and he looked like
Speaker 1: a Mari like, I don't know, there's nothing, there's nothing
Speaker 1: super flashy about his game, but like he caught a
Speaker 1: slant over the middle and you know you can kind
Speaker 1: of tell even though they're not tackling that. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that would have gone for sixty yards, like you can
Speaker 1: just tell. And yeah, so you know he had one,
Speaker 1: you know, nice catch and run and I think he
Speaker 1: got five reps and then he was like, Okay, now
Speaker 1: I'm done. So he's going to do a little bit
Speaker 1: more today with an on playing you know, ten or
Speaker 1: so snaps against Houston, so all systems go cook. I
Speaker 1: mean he Johnny on the spot for an interception there perfectly. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: now the best part about it was, I mean the
Speaker 1: ball didn't just float up for no reason. I mean
Speaker 1: Nashan Wright did a nice job there and at the
Speaker 1: goal line and tip it up. But that's the kind
Speaker 1: of you want your safety to be in position to
Speaker 1: make plays. And I thought he did a nice job there. Um,
Speaker 1: he's you know, he said something interesting in his press
Speaker 1: conference though, yesterday, and he said that, you know, he
Speaker 1: talked about him and because he they both you know,
Speaker 1: they're what are they the Achilles Boys or whatever? You know,
Speaker 1: they're going through the same injury. He said, we're pretty
Speaker 1: much the same player, which sounds good until then you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: can the same player with the same injury and the
Speaker 1: same body type sort of be you know, both have roles,
Speaker 1: both veterans, they're both veterans now the young guy you're developing.
Speaker 1: You know, they're both guys that probably aren't going to
Speaker 1: have a huge special teams workload. Yeah, Malik Hooker made
Speaker 1: it clear he hasn't done anything on special teams ever.
Speaker 1: You know, So I just wonder if both those I mean,
Speaker 1: I think you keep them both. I'm not saying you don't.
Speaker 1: I just wonder can they be I've been I've been
Speaker 1: wondering that since the day Hooker got here. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: this feels redundant and Yeah, Like, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: cut either one of them either, But when you talk
Speaker 1: about roster building, like they do the same job, they
Speaker 1: are this you know they're the same type of player
Speaker 1: they're not. You probably don't want them playing a ton
Speaker 1: of strong They're not gonna play a ton of special teams.
Speaker 1: So are these two guys you think we may get
Speaker 1: into the season and the Cowboys could maybe use them interchangeably,
Speaker 1: rotate them. I mean, like you don't typically see safety's
Speaker 1: rotating in and out of the lineup, but do you
Speaker 1: think that might be the case. Well, I mean, like
Speaker 1: what he's saying, though, what we're both saying is that
Speaker 1: it's gonna hurt the roster somehow, because is yes, do
Speaker 1: you want those two guys over Darren Thompson, Sure, but
Speaker 1: Darian Thompson's going to help you on special teams. Your
Speaker 1: backup safety there is going to have to do something,
Speaker 1: and neither one of those two guys can do it,
Speaker 1: which I think what will end up happening is is
Speaker 1: you're starting strong safety is going to do it. Donovan
Speaker 1: Wilson will be a starting safety that will also play
Speaker 1: special teams. Yeah that sounds bad, right, I think you
Speaker 1: could do that. They will never say this yet, but
Speaker 1: mcquamo is not getting cut right. If that's how we
Speaker 1: say his name, don't you just you think that's just
Speaker 1: fore gone. He's on. I do I think they. I
Speaker 1: think they have something here with him. A cornerback who
Speaker 1: plays safety. He's a coverage He's a coverage coverage safety.
Speaker 1: I'm all in favor of that. But I mean, now
Speaker 1: we're now we got problems in terms of math because
Speaker 1: you got Hooker, you got again these two free safeties
Speaker 1: that don't do much of else. Donovan three Darian Thompson
Speaker 1: is one of John Fossil's guys, not saying that definitely
Speaker 1: guarantees him a job, but something to consider. And now
Speaker 1: Mukuamu gives you five. And that's on top of a
Speaker 1: cornerback situation where I guess Reggie Robinson going to i
Speaker 1: R yesterday helps with that. But you still probably want
Speaker 1: to keep six corners. Well, don't you think part of
Speaker 1: the issue here is that, I mean, you guys just
Speaker 1: talked about Casey and and Hooker being a same player.
Speaker 1: They're also both older. Are you gonna let a younger
Speaker 1: guy who you think could develop in mukuamu go for
Speaker 1: the purposes of having these older guys that may only
Speaker 1: be here a year or two. There you go, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah. Part of the appeal of a rookie
Speaker 1: is that they're on a four year deal. I get that.
Speaker 1: A cheap four year deal. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: have an answer although which the money that the money
Speaker 1: that Kazy and Hooker have been given as negligible. But
Speaker 1: but they're short term guys. I would think, like, I
Speaker 1: don't think of them as futures for I think I'm
Speaker 1: a short term guys. Fossil is going to get two
Speaker 1: of the three when it comes to defensive backs that
Speaker 1: are special teams guys. I don't think he's gonna get
Speaker 1: all of them, you know. I think he'll get Thompson
Speaker 1: or Kennedy, which is really turning into more than just
Speaker 1: a special teams guy and a Goodwin and he who
Speaker 1: he called the Ace. So I made that joke the
Speaker 1: other day, and I get it. This special teams is
Speaker 1: important and it's something you got to consider and putting
Speaker 1: a fifty three together. But if I were them, if
Speaker 1: I were McCarthy and will and Steven Jones, I'd be
Speaker 1: like you're getting Goodwin. So that's that's your guy already.
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll give you We'll give you Darian if
Speaker 1: you want him, or we'll give you Louke Gifford. You're
Speaker 1: getting Dorance Armstrong, who you love as well. Like figure
Speaker 1: the rest of it out. That's what we draft. We
Speaker 1: drafted eleven guys like Jabril Cox can do whatever it
Speaker 1: is that you're convinced somebody else like Darren. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to fire darry and Thompson, but surely
Speaker 1: somebody can do his job and be more versatile. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think dari and Thompson gets a job here
Speaker 1: as a backup just because he can play special teams
Speaker 1: because they are better special teams players that are going
Speaker 1: to be like your ace, right, gonna find out because
Speaker 1: Rich Besacchi used to get whatever the hell he wanted,
Speaker 1: Like there were seven of those guys on the team
Speaker 1: when he was here, and it was like we used
Speaker 1: to talk about it on this show. We were like,
Speaker 1: how many of these guys do you need? Like and
Speaker 1: I would I would rather have Mali Cooker even if
Speaker 1: he's you know, even if he's not doing anything, just
Speaker 1: you know what I mean then than that, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: until until Week one they have a return for a
Speaker 1: touchdown against the Cowboys, and then it's kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe we need some of those guys. Bet they're not.
Speaker 1: They're not going to lose to the Bucks because somebody
Speaker 1: didn't make a special team's tackle. Watch Yeah, no, quote
Speaker 1: me on, see how it goes. Hold on that clip.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take our first break. We come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the eighty five cut Cowboys get
Speaker 1: down eighty five with the rest of the league. There's
Speaker 1: some guys that got cut from the Cowboys, but also
Speaker 1: a couple of guys that got cut from some other
Speaker 1: teams that I want to throw out and get some
Speaker 1: opinions on. We'll talk about that when we come right back.
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Speaker 1: the Star and real quick. We gotta get to the
Speaker 1: phone lines because they say we got a call from
Speaker 1: out of the country, and that costs a lot of money.
Speaker 1: So let's go straight to the phone lines. We got
Speaker 1: a call from someone name I think it's Ambar. Well
Speaker 1: you know it's chop for me. I got money, Hey,
Speaker 1: you have it? Wait, hold on, hold on. You just
Speaker 1: had a baby. There's no such thing as having money ever. Again,
Speaker 1: that baby's gonna take all of your money. Well, you
Speaker 1: gotta have a better mentality than that. You gotta think rich,
Speaker 1: abundance everywhere. Welcome to the show, Amber Garcia. We miss you.
Speaker 1: How's everything going? Good? Good, tired, but good and happy? Um, honestly,
Speaker 1: just calling for one thing for you, guys. It is
Speaker 1: a very simple question, oh very general. Are we actually
Speaker 1: but because you know I'm not it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to keep up with what's going on right now and
Speaker 1: kind of taking care of a baby at the same time.
Speaker 1: But I just want to know are we actually getting
Speaker 1: better or not? And when we when I get back
Speaker 1: to work, am I walking into excitement and happiness or
Speaker 1: am I walking into disappointment and one of those seasons again?
Speaker 1: So that's what I want to know from you, guys,
Speaker 1: And just as usual, just wants us to predict the future.
Speaker 1: Some things don't change. Simple, Well, when when is that
Speaker 1: going to start? Though? Like? What is it? Yeah? When
Speaker 1: are you when? When? When do you think we'll see you?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it right after the Bucks game? Because
Speaker 1: I don't know about that one. If that's what you start,
Speaker 1: i'd say probably not made October. Oh, yeah, okay, made October.
Speaker 1: Will things be good? Five and one? Oh, I'm completely
Speaker 1: I'm completely talking out of my butter. You know, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, you know, if Davis saying, then wow,
Speaker 1: we'll see Yeah. I think. I think the schedule, we
Speaker 1: think and you never know what teams are gonna be,
Speaker 1: but we think the schedule is gonna be favorable for
Speaker 1: them to compete, maybe win these games, and it gets
Speaker 1: a little tougher later on. We think, age it'll be
Speaker 1: happy and positive just because you're back, regardless of what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are doing. Well, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: I heard you guys. I heard you guys um talking.
Speaker 1: I turned on the show right when you guys were
Speaker 1: talking about easy in players. I didn't hear exactly who
Speaker 1: you were talking about specifically, but I'm like, man, who
Speaker 1: do we gotta easy into this season? I mean, is
Speaker 1: that gonna be slowing down the Cowboys is gonna be
Speaker 1: one of those times again where we're like, oh, here's
Speaker 1: a slow start, but then kind of get going later
Speaker 1: down the season. But then hey, it's kind of too
Speaker 1: late actually, Like never mind. I want to have a
Speaker 1: better idea of what I'm going back to work too,
Speaker 1: what I'm getting into this year with the Cowboys. Well,
Speaker 1: we know it won't be eight and eight season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we know that could be eight, eight and one, It
Speaker 1: could be eight and nine and nine and eight. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's gonna be Maybe I say
Speaker 1: it's gonna be better than that. But optimism just dripping
Speaker 1: from that show right now. The one thing, the one
Speaker 1: thing I think I know that hasn't thrown a pass. However,
Speaker 1: the one thing I think I know is that the
Speaker 1: defense won't be worse. So I think if that gives
Speaker 1: you any hope, I don't think they'll be worse than
Speaker 1: they were last year. So there's something that's been pretty
Speaker 1: good these two I don't think they'll be worse. I
Speaker 1: think there'll be a better defense, and so maybe that's
Speaker 1: a reason for optimism. We'll see, Yeah, you're you're gonna
Speaker 1: like dan Quinn a g. He's just he's got some
Speaker 1: he's got some stuff to him. He's the smoothest cusser
Speaker 1: Yeah ever ever heard. He just he just throws in
Speaker 1: and you're looking around, You're like, it's kind of like
Speaker 1: Will Ferrell in that old old school movie at the wedding,
Speaker 1: and he's like, did he just cuss that? He just
Speaker 1: says something like yeah he does. He doesn't. He's awesome
Speaker 1: right past not it's not with like you didn't say
Speaker 1: it with omph. He just kind of says it before
Speaker 1: you know. It's just rolled off the tongue. I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he saw him. But on the show Joseph, I saw
Speaker 1: him on the when I was watching Hard Knocks, I
Speaker 1: saw him watching the game from upstairs on the booth.
Speaker 1: Do you guys think that's actually gonna be beneficial or
Speaker 1: do you think it's it's better for him to be
Speaker 1: on the ground on the field with the players. I I,
Speaker 1: you know, I personally think it's better for coordinators to
Speaker 1: be up top um to see. But they it's hard
Speaker 1: to get a coach that wants he wants to get
Speaker 1: in the mix there, He wants to be down there,
Speaker 1: wants to talk to the players. We have seen on
Speaker 1: hard knocks that he'll he'll get him on the phone
Speaker 1: and he'll communicate with him. But you know, it is
Speaker 1: one of those things. And I have friends that coach
Speaker 1: in the high school ranks and then that they say, yeah,
Speaker 1: you see a lot more up there. We know that
Speaker 1: you see better. But they want to be able to
Speaker 1: kind of talk to the players, motivate and do all that.
Speaker 1: But if they're willing to take a step back, like
Speaker 1: it sounds like he is, he'll probably see more and
Speaker 1: be a better coach from up top. You do the
Speaker 1: things that make you worth your paycheck from the booth.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I don't even I don't know jack
Speaker 1: about football compared to Dan Quinn, but he like, we
Speaker 1: watched these Frisco practices in the booth as opposed to
Speaker 1: the sideline. It's like watching a completely different sport. You're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: here's the rotations, what the safety is doing like and
Speaker 1: now put real coaching football knowledge into that. Get leon
Speaker 1: Lett to smack guys on the ass and motivate them
Speaker 1: like anybody can do that. That's I always I watched
Speaker 1: the sidelines during games and I'm like half these guys
Speaker 1: are just talking to hear themselves talk honestly, Like, give
Speaker 1: me the guy that's in the booth making the calls
Speaker 1: and the adjustments. That's what's important. And if something's really
Speaker 1: that important to talk about and you get them on
Speaker 1: the phone. The Hall of Fame game, it was that
Speaker 1: the last night's Knox or the night before or the
Speaker 1: first episode, because we've seen him in the yeah no,
Speaker 1: what she was saying, um that you saw him in
Speaker 1: in the first episode when he was talking to yeah,
Speaker 1: Mike Carson. Then that's what it led me to think.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, communication wise, I mean, are you gonna
Speaker 1: be trying to get guys on the phone head real quick,
Speaker 1: jump on the phone, or obviously you talk to other
Speaker 1: coaches to transmit the message. But I thought it was
Speaker 1: kind of interesting and he led me to wonder, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: which way is actually better because he has to disadvantages
Speaker 1: and advantages at the same time, but which one kind
Speaker 1: of outweighs the other? You know. Yeah, we had a
Speaker 1: big debate on on There was people like in our
Speaker 1: office this morning, some people did not like last night's
Speaker 1: episode of Hard Knocks, and some people thought it was
Speaker 1: way better than the first one. It was. It was
Speaker 1: Donald Dave and I don't agree with that. I thought
Speaker 1: last night's was not as not the best one. Did
Speaker 1: you see that one yet? No? I haven't seen it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: i'll see you today. I have it on the TV. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you go, better stuff to do right real quick though,
Speaker 1: Before you go, I have to let everybody know and
Speaker 1: and publicly congratulate you on another Emmy win, like this
Speaker 1: girl's just racking up Emmy hardware. And this time it
Speaker 1: was for It was for a documentary, which you hadn't
Speaker 1: done one for us before. But you did a phenomenal
Speaker 1: job on on that story on Connor Williams and uh,
Speaker 1: and you were recognized by your peers winning an Emmy.
Speaker 1: I'm very very proud of you. Hammer, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Yep, that was a that was a
Speaker 1: good one. Yeah, for sure. And you know I was
Speaker 1: gonna see Connor here today. I was probably mentioned it
Speaker 1: to him, but no one, Connor, he'll be like cool, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we do need to mention that to let him know
Speaker 1: because he put in a lot of time with you
Speaker 1: to get that done too, So make sure he knows
Speaker 1: it was Emmy win. Yea, his family is gonna be happy.
Speaker 1: I haven't told him yet, but his family is gonna
Speaker 1: probably throw a party for him or something. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: got a great family, fun family, all right, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna let you go get back to the little man.
Speaker 1: But but it's good to hear from you. And don't
Speaker 1: be a stranger. If you hear something on the air,
Speaker 1: if Dave says something or Nick says something, you need
Speaker 1: to smack him around, then give us a call and
Speaker 1: jump in smack him around. Well, thank you guys for
Speaker 1: your time today and allowing me to kind a chit
Speaker 1: chat with you a little bit. All right, it's been
Speaker 1: a while, We miss you. We'll see you later. Hurry back.
Speaker 1: Bye bye, allright, bye bye, all right, if by the way,
Speaker 1: we can take other calls as well. Eight eight eight
Speaker 1: eight five five two two nine seven is the number
Speaker 1: real quick, though, Let's get to the cuts, cowboys. Get
Speaker 1: down to eighty five. Who got cut? And uh? And
Speaker 1: then let everybody know kind of when does the next cut?
Speaker 1: How does this all work? From the standpoint of the cuts,
Speaker 1: getting down to the final roster Tuesday, they cut to
Speaker 1: eighty five yesterday and next Tuesday, cuts eighty. The next Tuesday,
Speaker 1: fifty three. Here we go. So no longer, and Dave,
Speaker 1: We'll appreciate this more it anybody else. No longer are
Speaker 1: we cutting down the roster in the middle of LSU
Speaker 1: season opener on Labor Day weekend, the worst day of
Speaker 1: the year. It's the best day of the year slash year. Well,
Speaker 1: you just hate that. It's it's it's Christmas for anybody
Speaker 1: that likes college football, and they spend the whole time
Speaker 1: sort of glancing at your phone, working on stories, not
Speaker 1: feeling relaxed. So I'll be honest, I feel for you
Speaker 1: guys every year on that day because inevitably I'll be
Speaker 1: somewhere with my family, will be somewhere and we're doing
Speaker 1: something and I'll be just checking my phone, like and
Speaker 1: I'm seeing it. But you guys are having to do
Speaker 1: the work, and so every year I feel for you.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this sucks. Not this year sucks. Let's go.
Speaker 1: I gust thirty first is when they cut the fifty three,
Speaker 1: but they cut five yesterday, or basically, it's just roster reduction.
Speaker 1: You don't have to necessarily cut, you just get them
Speaker 1: off the roster. And they only actually cut like two guys,
Speaker 1: guys Kyon Brown and Vernon Eagles. Um, yeah, Texas, he
Speaker 1: just didn't pretty much did what he did at Texas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he wasn't like like a star star. And honestly, Texas
Speaker 1: when he came, when he came into Exis, he was
Speaker 1: like there was a lot of attention on him, like
Speaker 1: he was a recruit that they really wanted, and so
Speaker 1: everybody had really high expectations for him, and he just
Speaker 1: never quite got there. He'd have a game here or
Speaker 1: there where it was pretty good, but most of the
Speaker 1: time he was just kind of like you you'd get
Speaker 1: through a game, you'd be like, did he did he
Speaker 1: do anything? Do you have a catch? It's that kind
Speaker 1: of thing where it just wasn't consistent. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to take shots, but I feel like that's that's been
Speaker 1: a thing like getting the talent to Austin has not
Speaker 1: been the problem recently. I agree. I agree, And so
Speaker 1: that's always the question of coaching that want to get
Speaker 1: into that. Never he never had a shot here. And
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. We have a guy, a camera
Speaker 1: operator videographer Alex Lily does a lot down there, shot
Speaker 1: a lot of training Camp and he's a big UT fan. Okay,
Speaker 1: didn't know that, Oh yeah, big ut fan. He just
Speaker 1: went up with notching my book, so okay, and he
Speaker 1: was shooting, you know, one of the players and he
Speaker 1: made it a catch and for a touchdown and he
Speaker 1: kind of yelled out. He's like, go Eagles, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: see Camp. So he's yeah, like I'll see first of
Speaker 1: all cheering and and you know, shooting at the same time.
Speaker 1: It is kind of weird, but go Eagles is really
Speaker 1: not something that you know, is said around here. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's one you definitely want to stay away. He had
Speaker 1: an uphill battle, you know, Eagles with the Cowboys was
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough one. Anyway. I get enough random
Speaker 1: tweets from people like Eagleton. Really, I'm like, seriously, even
Speaker 1: never is that what we're doing? But no, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: Eagles is just not a It's not a word people
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans like to say or here or even read.
Speaker 1: I guess all right, let's jump in. Let's talk a
Speaker 1: little bit more about a couple of guys around the
Speaker 1: league that got cut. There were two names that jumped out. Hang.
Speaker 1: I mean, all right, we're burying the lead here. We
Speaker 1: just did five minutes on Brendan Eagles, and we're not
Speaker 1: going to talk about the fourth round cornerback being put
Speaker 1: down for the year as a twelve. But he wasn't
Speaker 1: he Okay, let me ask you, Reggie Robinson, if Reggie
Speaker 1: Robinson were not hurt, is Reggie Robinson making this team? No? Okay?
Speaker 1: So that he just got bad here? That ain't got
Speaker 1: an extra year. So that's a good thing, right, It's
Speaker 1: it's newsworthy. Fourth round, fourth round picks make the team here,
Speaker 1: so it is it's interesting to think he couldn't get
Speaker 1: on the field last year, he wasn't doing enough to
Speaker 1: make the team this year, and you know, it's not
Speaker 1: the end of the world. It is just curious though
Speaker 1: this team is usually better at drafting than that or
Speaker 1: or something. Is the guy not a fit? Were they
Speaker 1: wrong about him? I don't know. Well, here's the Fortunately,
Speaker 1: we don't have to answer that right now because he'll
Speaker 1: be back next year. That's when you go to ir
Speaker 1: At during training camp, you're like, you can't come back,
Speaker 1: but you retain Reggie's right, So, I mean, he'll be
Speaker 1: here next year. But that's an inauspicious start to his career.
Speaker 1: But you got it, I said, who else did that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Down the guys out for the year right now? You
Speaker 1: put him an R right now, Like he said, out
Speaker 1: for the year. No, let's go back to the ridge.
Speaker 1: But I think you got a factor in the fact
Speaker 1: that there are that the Cowboys came back this year.
Speaker 1: They got him in the fourth round of last year.
Speaker 1: But they came back this year and got a second
Speaker 1: and third round cornerbacks, right, So so those are higher
Speaker 1: picks than him, and they played like it. So that's
Speaker 1: his point if you, I mean, if they come back
Speaker 1: next year and get a first round corner in a
Speaker 1: second round corner, what is that going to show you
Speaker 1: about what they think of Nashan right or Kelvin Joseph.
Speaker 1: I get that. But also I think that this is
Speaker 1: where you start getting that rub between coaching and scouting
Speaker 1: because you're talking about a fourth round pick that spent
Speaker 1: most of his rookie year playing safety. So did he
Speaker 1: get a fair chance to really be able to develop
Speaker 1: and compete at cornerback? Like? Those are the questions that
Speaker 1: you have to ask when you start saying hey, before
Speaker 1: you would just say that they just didn't do a
Speaker 1: good job with from the standpoint of drafting, Okay, I
Speaker 1: mean every like fourth round picks regularly become meaningful contributors
Speaker 1: to this team in my time working here. And Reggie's
Speaker 1: going to be going into year three without and I'm
Speaker 1: really not blaming him, Honestly, I haven't talked to him.
Speaker 1: I've never talked to Reggie Robinson thanks to COVID, But
Speaker 1: if I were him, I'd probably be pretty pissed about
Speaker 1: the way my career has shaken out to this point.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not dogging him. I just it's weird
Speaker 1: and interesting. This is not the trajectory that we see
Speaker 1: for fourth round picks. We're very We're very excited about
Speaker 1: Jabriel Cox. Anthony Hitchins is the name that I bring
Speaker 1: up all the time. Derek Prescott, like your fourth round picks.
Speaker 1: If you're a fourth round pick, you're probably Dorin's armstrong,
Speaker 1: not setting the world on fire, but a quality member
Speaker 1: this roster. Dalton Schultz, if you're drafted in the fourth round,
Speaker 1: I have a decent amount of expectations for you, and
Speaker 1: Reggie Robinson is high up on the list of guys
Speaker 1: that just haven't hit that mark yet. Charles Tapper is
Speaker 1: another one that comes to mind. I mean, it does happen.
Speaker 1: I still think it's worth noting. Okay, that's all. And
Speaker 1: Dooley noted, I think that's a good point. All Right,
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do is we're gonna take our final
Speaker 1: Oh no, actually before we take our break. I did
Speaker 1: want to real quickly get your opinions because I got
Speaker 1: some messages on this. Just Rosen, quarterback he was with
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers, was cut, just was
Speaker 1: waived yesterday because the Cowboys have had issues at backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: Lots of question mark there. Do you think that's one
Speaker 1: that maybe the Cowboys should just take a look at.
Speaker 1: And I say this as someone I really I loved
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen. I I loved his cockiness. I think he
Speaker 1: had a very pro ready type of game in that draft.
Speaker 1: Like I'm looking back at it, like I would have
Speaker 1: drafted Josh Rosen before Josh Allen for sure. Wow, Josh,
Speaker 1: I mean Josh Allen was pure product projection based on
Speaker 1: absurd you know, athleticism, which it looks like it's working out.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be wrong about guys if you talk about
Speaker 1: the draft long fit matters too, right, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: fit matters, and maybe he got the right fitt and
Speaker 1: Rosen hasn't. The point Well, the point is I liked
Speaker 1: Rosen a lot, but it's been four teams by now,
Speaker 1: and I know, you know, he's he's been in a
Speaker 1: different system all this time. I get that he's done
Speaker 1: all these different things. He hasn't had a chance to
Speaker 1: get comfortable. But I don't know, if you're that good
Speaker 1: at some point, shouldn't your talent shine through. I mean,
Speaker 1: he got to work with Tom Brady for a year,
Speaker 1: he got to start games for the Dolphins. I know
Speaker 1: they didn't have a lot of talent around him, but
Speaker 1: you should have seen something that made somebody kind of
Speaker 1: sit up and say, okay. And Garrett's been here for
Speaker 1: a year, He's went through the whole offseason. It's also
Speaker 1: Rosen will be back right where he's always been if
Speaker 1: he comes here just learning a new thing on the fly,
Speaker 1: trying to make it work. And I don't, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't I doubt he can. I think Garret Gilbert
Speaker 1: is probably better than him right now. And that's kind
Speaker 1: of what I was pointing out. Um, I guess in
Speaker 1: the column that I wrote that we mentioned is that
Speaker 1: is that, yeah, you're gonna have names that you that
Speaker 1: you like or that that you've heard of or were
Speaker 1: drafted better, but like, you know, there's a reason why
Speaker 1: they're available, and are they gonna come in and and
Speaker 1: be you know, better than what you've got and understand,
Speaker 1: you know, who understand the offense enough that if something
Speaker 1: were to happen to that this guy's gonna be ready.
Speaker 1: This guy's gonna be you know, he's not gonna be
Speaker 1: as ready as as Garrett Gilbert. So you have to
Speaker 1: factor that part into it as well. Like whoever he's
Speaker 1: gonna have got to have way more talent, got to
Speaker 1: have more upside, and gotta be ready to play. That's
Speaker 1: just very rare to find that right now. Now, he
Speaker 1: had some pretty decent guys ahead of him, Like you
Speaker 1: understand why he got cut in San Francisco because all
Speaker 1: but all those guys Garoppolo, the guy they drafted, there's
Speaker 1: a CJ. Bethard. Yeah he's been around, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been a he now understands the system obviously a
Speaker 1: lot more too, So you knew that was probably going
Speaker 1: to happen. But at this point, I think it's it's
Speaker 1: gonna take it's gonna take a guy who has started
Speaker 1: in won significant games in the league to come available
Speaker 1: for that for me to think that they would make
Speaker 1: a move, like, you know, people talk about Chicago because
Speaker 1: it's the most obvious one. I mean, there's a good
Speaker 1: chance that a guy with some serious skins on the
Speaker 1: wall will be available at some point, whether you know,
Speaker 1: I guess theoretically it could even be Dalton, like if
Speaker 1: Fields just keeps kicking ass. I mean, I don't pay
Speaker 1: attention to what the Bears are doing, but you know,
Speaker 1: I think it would have to be a guy like that,
Speaker 1: not Josh Rosen. All Right, we're gonna take our five
Speaker 1: break and we come back. We got some more calls
Speaker 1: from you guys. We've got Tony in Atlanta. Will do
Speaker 1: that when we come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys
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Speaker 1: to the final segment of the Breaklock Nest to ABC
Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios at the Star. We got a phone call
Speaker 1: Tony from Atlanta. Tony, what up? Hey, what's going on? Fellow?
Speaker 1: Tell y'all I'm good. I'm great. Man good to hear y'all. Hey. Um,
Speaker 1: two quick questions. One, is the with the schedule being
Speaker 1: out in the home and road games and everything announced,
Speaker 1: do we already know it hasn't been announced? What the
Speaker 1: uniforms are gonna be? Blue? White? You know that type thing,
Speaker 1: you know, the bad luck blues and all that. That's
Speaker 1: my first question. Second question, with all the talk about
Speaker 1: d Lamb and how great his camp has been, and
Speaker 1: you know, Cooper missing all this time, and people talking
Speaker 1: about Lamb's ascension, I want to just kind of ask
Speaker 1: you all, get you all thoughts on what exactly is
Speaker 1: a number one receiver? We hear the term thrown around
Speaker 1: a lot, number one, number one, but what exactly really
Speaker 1: is a number one receiver? Is the best receiver on
Speaker 1: the team? Is just an elite receiver? What do you
Speaker 1: guys thoughts on that? Thank you? I mean to me,
Speaker 1: it's it's the guy that you absolutely count on every week,
Speaker 1: and you know he's going to get doubled. You know
Speaker 1: that that he'll be a focal point of the defense.
Speaker 1: But he fights through that and he makes plays. He
Speaker 1: can go and make plays, you know, it doesn't he can,
Speaker 1: he can be an outside guy inside whatever. But number
Speaker 1: one receiver is the guy that that will will shine
Speaker 1: above um the amount of coveragen that he'll get and
Speaker 1: he continues to consistently make plays. That's that's my you know,
Speaker 1: view of a number one I'll actually you kind of
Speaker 1: touched on it there, but I look at it more
Speaker 1: from when you go into every week, who is the
Speaker 1: opponent saying that's who we got to pay the most
Speaker 1: attention to? Who affects the game in that way From
Speaker 1: the standpoint of they're going to get the attention and
Speaker 1: it creates opportunities for other guys. Now, the byproduct the
Speaker 1: reason why that happens is because, as you said, they
Speaker 1: always are making plays, So defenses have to figure out
Speaker 1: how to control them, how to manage them, how to
Speaker 1: maybe stop them. But I think it's really about who
Speaker 1: is the other team saying is their top offensive receiver
Speaker 1: weapon that we gotta take away? If whoever that is,
Speaker 1: that to me is who the number one receiver is yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean you can get all kinds of end of
Speaker 1: the weeds with that, because like, does your number one
Speaker 1: have to be an ex receiver like a guy that's
Speaker 1: out on the boundary. I think in most cases it is,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it has to be you know,
Speaker 1: guy like Antonio Brown is famous for moving all over
Speaker 1: the place. Going back to your point, I mean it's
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hills, Kansas City's number one, Like is he the
Speaker 1: guy you have to take away? Or is it Kelsey?
Speaker 1: Like I think you could make an argument in a
Speaker 1: way when you say that to me. I just think
Speaker 1: that means to Nick's point, like the game plan starts
Speaker 1: with taking him away, that's what any so it could
Speaker 1: be anybody. Really, let's answer the question he's really asking
Speaker 1: lam there. Number one is the number one. It's still
Speaker 1: Amari until CD has a season where he is truly
Speaker 1: It's like, I'll tell you now, I'll tell you this,
Speaker 1: I do expect that to happen this year. And I've
Speaker 1: said that on another episode that we've evaluate a lot.
Speaker 1: A lot of people do, and it's hard to argue
Speaker 1: with them seeing what CD's done and the vast majority
Speaker 1: of it has been on the boundary by the way.
Speaker 1: I mean he's been playing outside because don't you know,
Speaker 1: but we know he can do all of that in
Speaker 1: the slot, So you add all that together. I understand
Speaker 1: the hype. But like I've said it before, I think
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, ironically, for being a Dallas cowboy, I think
Speaker 1: he's a little bit slept on. I'm not saying he's
Speaker 1: not top five, but I think he's a lot better
Speaker 1: than a lot of people want to give him credit for. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't think it has to be an either or.
Speaker 1: I don't think just because CD becomes the top person
Speaker 1: that defenses want to take away or feel like they
Speaker 1: need to take away, means Adam Maury falls off and
Speaker 1: isn't a good player anymore. I look at and I
Speaker 1: compare this to Isaac Bruce and Tory Holt. In Saint Louis,
Speaker 1: Isaac Isaac Bruce had been the guy. Tory Holt came
Speaker 1: along and became the guy. It didn't mean that Isaac
Speaker 1: Bruce fell off. He just went into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: He was still a very very good, very very productive receiver.
Speaker 1: But Tory Holt was making the plays that were like
Speaker 1: Holy crap, did he just do that? Right? And I
Speaker 1: think that's what's gonna happen here. It's a good problem
Speaker 1: to have, And that's absolutely I'm already annoyed. I'm already annoyed.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be here mondays after one of them blows
Speaker 1: up and the other one has like a pedestrian game,
Speaker 1: and everybody's for some reason mad about it. Like I'm
Speaker 1: already annoyed. You know the reason. It's not for some
Speaker 1: reason because the money. Now, it's because they drafted a
Speaker 1: money on their fantasy football team. It's because because they're
Speaker 1: cowboy finn and they think Michael Gallup's gonna have a
Speaker 1: big gear, so they put him in the fourth round
Speaker 1: of fifth round or whatever, and he's gonna have two
Speaker 1: catches for twenty four yards and he's gonna be okay
Speaker 1: with it because maybe they won the game. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that'll happen. That's why when I get asked.
Speaker 1: I got asked this morning on a show about will
Speaker 1: CD lead the team in catches, yards and touchdowns and
Speaker 1: you know, fact or fiction? And I was like, I
Speaker 1: just can't go there. I can't go there on all
Speaker 1: three because that's not the way the Cowboys want to play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't want to play that way. Yeah, they want
Speaker 1: Zeke to be running for fifteen hundred yards and run
Speaker 1: out the clock. So um, I just don't. I think
Speaker 1: Amari will end up maybe getting more yards. I could
Speaker 1: see CD leading the team and touchdowns. Yep. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the best red zone threat. They've got.
Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert. Hey, he's smart enough to they all all
Speaker 1: the backups are. If it's if it was a mojo
Speaker 1: moment or fourth and eight or whatever, you know, in practice,
Speaker 1: throw it up to CD. He'll make the play, you know.
Speaker 1: As far as the other question, um to the uniforms
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, they have not put out their schedule, which
Speaker 1: I mean, that's ever I feel uniforms Well, no, not really,
Speaker 1: but I feel guilty because I've run into Mike McCord
Speaker 1: and Bucky a million times since camp started, and I
Speaker 1: could have asked them and just slip my mind. But
Speaker 1: it's funny because you can kind of piece some of
Speaker 1: this stuff together because other teams put theirs out. So
Speaker 1: we know Dallas will be wearing blue when they host
Speaker 1: Denver because Denver announced that they're wearing white. So and
Speaker 1: then you know, I'm like, you know, the Giants are
Speaker 1: wearing their homes so both Giants games, the Cowboys will
Speaker 1: be in white, if that means anything to you. But
Speaker 1: as far as a as far as a full schedule
Speaker 1: of what Dallas is going to be wearing, I bet
Speaker 1: I bet you can. You can bet on the Tampa
Speaker 1: game them wearing white. Do you think? Yeah, just teams
Speaker 1: like to do that and it's gonna be hot. They
Speaker 1: want to put their team and Navy now they usually
Speaker 1: do that when it's sunny. No, you're you're saying Tampa
Speaker 1: will be wearing white? Did I not say that Tampa?
Speaker 1: Did you just say that against Denver? That Denver's gonna
Speaker 1: Denver's wearing their whites into eighteens? So that means the
Speaker 1: Cowboys they did? They do? The Cowboys know they know
Speaker 1: exactly what they're doing, Okay, we just don't. We just
Speaker 1: don't know it. That means once they've told everybody what's
Speaker 1: going on, then Denver puts it out what they're gonna
Speaker 1: be wearing. The Cowboys have made that I understand. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: isn't it curious that the Cowboys chose blue for home game.
Speaker 1: They typically choose white for home games, right, I'm missing something.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It mean, they wore blue like six
Speaker 1: times a couple of years ago, and I thought it
Speaker 1: most instance it was it was because they were in
Speaker 1: road situations where they honestly, they've had a few games
Speaker 1: where they've they've worn blue, and they're not not always
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving they dave it was eight games a few
Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, so it happens they're slowly getting away
Speaker 1: from that a little bit. The white, Yeah, but the
Speaker 1: best uniform the course. I think that's part you are opening.
Speaker 1: You're opening a can of worms. But I actually agree
Speaker 1: with you. The blue looks the blue actually looks the best.
Speaker 1: But but yes, he's opening. They of course corrected last
Speaker 1: year though, like they wore white like fourteen times last
Speaker 1: year they and they fixed the pants go with the
Speaker 1: white jerseys. I'm sorry, I just havecrophones pick up whispers too,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just saying, like the pants are more
Speaker 1: bluish now. The ice blue, I don't care, looks good.
Speaker 1: It's the white uniform is iconic. Yeah, but the blue
Speaker 1: looks really good too, and it's not bad luck. I
Speaker 1: hate I mean, LSU is the same like LSU always
Speaker 1: wears white. They wear white at home, it's their thing,
Speaker 1: and fans flipped, yeah, great colors like purple and gold.
Speaker 1: You need to wear your colors. I think our fans
Speaker 1: hate it when LSU wears purple because it's bad Juju.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, they lost games when they wore purple
Speaker 1: because they sucked. That ever happened to me when I
Speaker 1: was wearing purple and gold. Okay, Okay, just say what
Speaker 1: you want to say. I'm not saying anything. I'm just
Speaker 1: making a point. At it's a point, okay, point if
Speaker 1: the team. The team is good, they can blays low
Speaker 1: games in the eighties because they were blue because they
Speaker 1: went into Philly and lost. No, they weren't bad. They
Speaker 1: just they on the road. It's tougher to win on
Speaker 1: the road than at home. So they're like, man, we
Speaker 1: were eight no on white and we were we were
Speaker 1: only four and four and blue because they're on the road.
Speaker 1: But the point is in the nineties when they were rolling,
Speaker 1: how many times they losing blue, Probably not as many.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying like, when you're a great team, it
Speaker 1: didn't really matter. It's they lost the players, they lost
Speaker 1: the Eagle. They lost the Redskins the year they won
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, they lost in the Blue probably had
Speaker 1: something to do with playing at the vet, you know,
Speaker 1: with Reggie White, I would think probably has something more
Speaker 1: than guessing. Doesn't look good on me. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: might be speaking out of turn, but like the sixties
Speaker 1: throwbacks that everybody loves so much that they can now
Speaker 1: bring back because of the new helmet rule next year,
Speaker 1: weren't those teams terrible like that in the sixties, Like
Speaker 1: they weren't good when they wore those, at least not
Speaker 1: as good as they became in subsequent years they get
Speaker 1: they got good like sixties sixty five, sixty six based
Speaker 1: I think Ice Bowl is sixty seven, but they were
Speaker 1: already moving. They had already moved on to the like
Speaker 1: more gray silver helmet, right right, So people love the
Speaker 1: throwback because it looks cleanly. Look, I love it too.
Speaker 1: It's cool. Yeah, just the players, the players wearing the
Speaker 1: uniform matter, not what the uniform looks like and it
Speaker 1: they just give me a good looking uniform. And whether
Speaker 1: you all it or lost in it, just give me
Speaker 1: good All of the Cowboys uniforms look good, like you know,
Speaker 1: I know the white doesn't match and all that, but
Speaker 1: it's this iconic like NFL films, look right, the blue
Speaker 1: looks good, the double Star looks good. Like they all
Speaker 1: look good. I don't care what they wear, they all
Speaker 1: look good. All Right, we appreciate you guys. Join us.
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Friday, and we actually got a
Speaker 1: special guest for you guys. On Friday. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: one Darren Woodson that's gonna be I think maybe gonna be.
Speaker 1: We'll see gonna maybe gonna be joining us. We'll see
Speaker 1: how they movie about the guy. Yeah, we gotta come
Speaker 1: out of the documentary coming out the Saturday. It's going
Speaker 1: to be really good about Darren in his life store,
Speaker 1: and so we want to get him on Friday hopefully
Speaker 1: to be able to talk a little bit about that
Speaker 1: and just get his opinions on this team, particularly a
Speaker 1: safety position, because for the first time in a long time,
Speaker 1: there are actually some people that maybe are worth talking
Speaker 1: about at the safety position. So we'll talk about talked.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll talk to Darren on Friday about that. Till then,
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