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Speaker 1: I did the air pun logo for Punk. Back then,

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Speaker 1: I used to do a bunch of logo for Punk.

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Speaker 1: I did the Snowman for j Z. Like back then,

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Speaker 1: I was doing out.

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Speaker 2: Make some Noise for vera man for.

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Speaker 3: Vera movie director, music director.

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Speaker 2: Big time.

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Speaker 1: We got in the building, baby, So.

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Speaker 2: Man, where are you from? B X hold a b

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Speaker 2: X the Bronx Man.

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Speaker 1: Your whole Life's to b X Whole Life one hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty fourth and Sheridan.

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Speaker 2: Now, okay, and what made you want to pick up

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Speaker 2: a camera?

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Speaker 1: I was always into art man, so it was just

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Speaker 1: went from graffiti and drawing and ship like that too,

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Speaker 2: Just you need a breakdancing and all that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I love movies, so it was the

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I remember Kse Slay used to be rested piece to

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Speaker 4: Kse Slay. He was big into the graffiti, used to spray.

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Speaker 2: Paint and all that. Oh yeah, I got a Kse

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Speaker 2: story and I watched Beach Street and all that and

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Speaker 2: all that back in the days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, class yeah, so that's what is growing up in

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Speaker 1: the Bronx, you know what I mean the seventies and around,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the crews back then. I mean my

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Speaker 1: block was called the Unstoppable Crew, the unstoppable, unstoppable crew.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: You had everybody out there. The DJs used to go

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Speaker 1: sixty fifth, Melly mail. Everybody's DJ up there.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: So it was it was embedded than us young like

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Speaker 1: grown up hip hop, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 1: graffiti was just another aspect of it, graffiti, breakdancing.

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Speaker 2: All that. Okay, what's your first stop picking up a camera? Man?

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Speaker 2: The first time? I don't worry about murder.

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Speaker 3: And we're not gonna do this too, right, You're not

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Speaker 3: gonna ask all the questions. Brother, We're not gonna do this.

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Speaker 2: He always tried to take over the whole minute. You

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Speaker 2: gotta you can answer this question. But were you asked

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Speaker 2: the next what's the first time you picked up a camera?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: I had. I had a.

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Speaker 1: Ship was a one of the camp quarters. A little tape,

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Speaker 1: a little tape doings popping in and I was just

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Speaker 1: around the way. And uh, you know, I grew up

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Speaker 1: with Lord to Reed, Peter Guns and all these dudes

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Speaker 1: And I started working around shooting Lord Tok and ship

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm so happy that everything was settled. Rest

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Speaker 4: a pece on Chris Lady, because that was that was

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Speaker 4: a crazy one.

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Speaker 2: That was crazy. That was crazy. Told them, and you

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Speaker 1: I mean, Joe had said something in his book, but

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Speaker 2: I gotta get a shout to Joe, man. I gotta

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Speaker 1: Fat Joe's book. It's Fat Joe, Fat Joe mentioned in

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Speaker 1: the book.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I could.

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Speaker 1: I could touch on it, like you know, I know

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Speaker 1: the ship, right, and I had met Fifth by accident, right,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't by accident, but I had did a little

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Speaker 1: then I started working with Fifth, and then I told

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Speaker 1: you kind of walk away. So but I kept beating

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, sometimes niggas go on, you know,

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Speaker 1: So I was in l A Man and I was

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Speaker 1: Khalifa and Tianna Taylor. I forget the name of the record,

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Speaker 1: but Fifth hit me because by that time, being Fifth

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Speaker 1: already been rocking. We've been doing. Man, we done. Me

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Speaker 1: and Field got probably fifty videos in let's name the

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Speaker 1: fifty videos.

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Speaker 1: I'm a touch so with the fifty videos. When I

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Speaker 1: we were just it was just me and him running

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Speaker 1: around with a camera like it was crazy, like we

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Speaker 1: out in the blizzards, you know.

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Speaker 2: Fifth, I remember remember one of them videos like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like we in the snowstorm and just me and

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Speaker 1: him because we crazy. So but we rocked out and

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Speaker 1: shit right. And you know, then I think the first

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Speaker 1: break I got. And when I say break, I mean

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Speaker 1: actually doing something for a label, because by then I

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Speaker 1: time I seen like I don't want to say real money,

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Speaker 2: Side, what you mean you got real money? You said

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Speaker 1: It's real money.

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Speaker 2: So so you're saying when you got Fifth, you got

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Speaker 2: with Fifth it was real money.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so when I got I mean, we was

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Speaker 1: a different when he did a mixtape for one of

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Speaker 2: Let him keep that videos. I never knew that one. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That was I was like, oh shit, Like that's when

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Speaker 1: I said this ship is real. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Like it was a hobby. I felt like that was

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Speaker 1: your first big boy. I was like, I was like, oh, ship,

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Speaker 1: Like I went home and ship like, yo, got you

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Speaker 1: throwing the ship at my wife like yo u we uh?

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Speaker 1: We made was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: You know, we just kept rocking. And then the next

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Speaker 1: time was remember fifty that record with the Leisha Keys Dre.

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Speaker 2: What was that song? But how do you keep the balance?

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Speaker 2: How do you be friends with fifty and fat?

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Speaker 1: But hold out?

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Speaker 2: You know how you know how the game is? You

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Speaker 1: Nah, you know, I think my relationship with Fifth Man

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Speaker 1: and the way fifth operates, you know, it's all about

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Speaker 1: loyalty and everything else. Right, you just got to be

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Speaker 1: would tell him when I'm about to work with somebody,

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking about like people. He don't even like,

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Speaker 1: it's just he just did, don't. Yeah, he never blocked

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Speaker 1: my money. He was like, yo, we'll get your money, right. So,

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Speaker 1: like it's another artist. So I'm like, yo, I gotta

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Speaker 1: So and So hit me, and he's like, go get

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Speaker 1: your money. Ain't gonna stop you. But he'll tell you

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Speaker 1: the reason why he didn't stop me was it was

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Speaker 1: one was the money, but also because he wanted me

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Speaker 1: Go work with this person that person, and then you

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Speaker 1: it's time to come back, and so that's how we

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Speaker 1: rocked it. So with Joe, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: You know why I said that to you though, because

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Speaker 4: because I remember when Fifth was rocking with Jesse Terrero.

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Speaker 2: With him, Yeah, and they did We'll shout out Jesse. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's a way to go

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Speaker 2: With Fifth, how did Joe look at you?

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Speaker 1: Joe was he was like, my thing is like where

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Speaker 1: we all come from? Ship like that, right, Like like

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Speaker 1: I ain't no sucker nigga, Like I ain't no punk right.

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Speaker 1: So like with Joe, like because.

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Speaker 2: Industry niggas will act like they're not mad, but they.

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Speaker 1: Be maybe you know what I'm saying, right, So with Yo,

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Speaker 1: I was like Yo, at first, he kind of like laughed,

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Speaker 1: but he wasn't mad. He was like, alright, go ahead, right,

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Speaker 1: let's see what that is, because I think a part

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Speaker 1: of him wanted to squash that beat at some point,

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Speaker 1: being grown man squashed.

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Speaker 2: So right.

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Speaker 1: So so when I was talking about all that, and

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Speaker 1: then Chris Lighty had passed, and I think that made

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Speaker 1: it was like a week before the BT Awards. That

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Speaker 1: was the l a thing I was doing out there

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Speaker 1: the video with with Joe. Fifth hit me's going to airport,

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Speaker 1: So I said, I said, yea, I'm with Joe.

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Speaker 2: So he'said where you are? That was a crazy night too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, yo, let's do this.

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Speaker 2: That was a crazy night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, let's do it. Oh yeah, the

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Speaker 1: BT boy, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That was we felt like Jill. They felt like rcaus Allen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I ain't go along. That's when the murder Rick

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Speaker 2: Ross geez it was. It was like a lot of listen.

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Speaker 2: So so I go to my I was staying by

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Speaker 3: But I remember that was some funny ship because people

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Speaker 1: He telling me like we got a hundred niggas in

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Speaker 4: You know, thank god, you know it could it could

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay. I was telling Joe, I'm like, yo, if

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Speaker 4: He had two short Spanish niggas with him that look

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Speaker 3: So, I mean it was made basically videos from doing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what's crazy is man like like Hollywood

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Speaker 1: like music video directors got a bad rep when it

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Speaker 1: got music directors that went and did movies that just bomb.

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Speaker 1: Talk about them. Who should bomb? I'm not gonna say bomb.

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Speaker 1: But but you know they go for music videos and

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Speaker 1: I'm talking like Cats who had ten million dollars, Cats

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Speaker 2: Right, And so.

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Speaker 1: When you take a shot to h I mean it's like, yeah, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: they didn't do it? How you did it?

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Speaker 2: Nah?

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Speaker 1: So I came in late right when I'm saying I can't.

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Speaker 1: I'm much older because you have because you.

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Speaker 2: Have the Benny Booms.

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Speaker 4: You had a couple of dudes, all these cats, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: shot out. But we can say Belly was a classic though.

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Speaker 2: It's a classic.

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Speaker 4: But he never did nothing one after that though. That

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Speaker 1: But the way Hollywood looks at things and shout out

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Speaker 1: things like respect that if we spend this amount of money,

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Speaker 2: Profits how much you think, how much you think they

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Speaker 2: spent on I don't know. I don't know, Just give

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Speaker 1: A classic back then, but was getting robbed also, So

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Speaker 1: you don't even know, Like I honestly can't speak on that.

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Speaker 1: But but that's the it's a business, right So when

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And so but you know

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Speaker 1: the challenges you go there, you meet these people in Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: and then on some they they'll bring it up. They'll

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Speaker 1: be like, well, you come from music videos and we

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Speaker 1: how would you gonna be different and make us money?

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Speaker 1: So what I try to do is I try to

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Speaker 1: Like there was this cat who used to do a

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Speaker 1: It wasn't hype. It was his cat named Francis Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: Francis Lawrence went off. His first movie out the gate

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Speaker 2: Look at that.

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Speaker 1: They need did the mocking Bird, the mocking j films,

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Speaker 1: whatever that was. So you're like, I want to be

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Speaker 1: And then you also got David Fincher, like a monster director, right,

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Speaker 2: What videos used to do?

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Speaker 1: Don a bunch of cat like he used to do

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Speaker 4: That's crazy because I always thought it was just Jesse

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Speaker 4: Terrero Brothers, you Benny Boom, and.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know.

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Speaker 1: he did because he just wanted to superfly or I've

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Speaker 1: Now he's doing a lot of TV stuff too, so

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Speaker 1: like so what do you do?

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Speaker 2: Like you see the Fifth?

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Speaker 1: Because Fifth used to have me come into uh they

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Speaker 2: I was like that ain't like you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and my mom thinking like I'm not.

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Speaker 1: So Fifth was like, listen, you see anybody bringing anybody

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Speaker 1: So he was like, I want you to get that

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Speaker 4: Because they because they felt you didn't have the resume yet.

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Speaker 4: Now you have to if everybody got everybody. But that

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Speaker 1: I did that and then after that was for Life,

441
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 1: right yeah, for Life and even that ABC ABC owned

442
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 1: by right there man. That was a good move man, right,

443
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,159
Speaker 1: we check it. So ABC and Disney was like, hell no,

444
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,440
Speaker 1: it was like what what he what he done? He

445
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 1: was like one episode of GHOS and it wasn't even

446
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 1: out yet. It was like we got none, this is not.

447
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 2: So who is who is he?

448
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,159
Speaker 1: So they was like no, They kept pushing back. The

449
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 1: producers are like, nah, I let him do it. We

450
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,679
Speaker 1: believe in him. And then Fifth made a call too,

451
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 1: like yo, y'all telling us it's the number one show.

452
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 1: If if if y'all letting us do our things, let

453
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 1: us do our thing. We're telling you this dude is ready,

454
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 1: like he already did want he knows what he's doing.

455
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 2: I go off, I do that.

456
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 1: And it's the only episode that got put in at

457
00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 1: the end of the season for an Emmy and best

458
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 1: I reckon it was the best episode, right, And from

459
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 1: that point on, like every time I do something, it

460
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 1: gets put in for Emmys, you know, I mean like

461
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 1: they know, like and the actors will tell you, They'll

462
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: be like, nah, this dude, you know how to talk

463
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 1: to actors and he know how to work the camera.

464
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 4: Like how to do people want to know? Like you

465
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 4: know a lot of people in the hood want to

466
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 4: be actors now because the fifty everybody run up to me.

467
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 4: Everybody got scripts. They want to know, like what it

468
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 4: takes to be a good actor, not just acting, but

469
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 4: how do you portray yourself on set?

470
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 2: Like being on time and stuff like that, not smoking

471
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 2: on set or getting drunk or.

472
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: It's all a regiment right, Like it's crazy because I

473
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 1: show up, Like how does your day start? Like I

474
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 1: will come to set and Fifth will be there before me.

475
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 1: Like Fifth is a different type of animal, Like I

476
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 1: don't bro We don't start the seven fifty there five

477
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 1: five in the morning, right because we got to show

478
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 1: we there four or five hours before the show. So

479
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 1: you look at that and you go, man, I gotta

480
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: like I gotta be if you want it, you gotta

481
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: really really really right. So so so the point is

482
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 1: in talking to like the younger cats that want to

483
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: come in and want to act and all that, like

484
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: just keep doing it, man, take acting classes, you know,

485
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 1: I mean sharpening the skills and if you ain't got money,

486
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: just keep acting and do with family and friends. Acted

487
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: out like you ever seen the videos like the thew

488
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: African kids when they be acting and replicating and then

489
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,719
Speaker 1: they start they get there, they get busy. I want

490
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: to get busy. So if you start acting and just

491
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: doing scenes, do small scenes, you know what I'm saying.

492
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: Like somebody just gave me something the other day and

493
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: it was like they made it short. It was like

494
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: twenty minute whatever. Fifth went crazy. He were about to

495
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,199
Speaker 1: do the deal. I wanted to do the same thing.

496
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 3: He said that something a little related to New York

497
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 3: with some like you, I gotta I gotta, uh what's

498
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 3: going on kind of right now?

499
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly y or whatever?

500
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's themselves, dope, But.

501
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 2: It's casts that took it upon themselves, right.

502
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: They shot, they put their own shot together. Theyself for it, right,

503
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: nothing crazy to put them on bread and they went

504
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: and they did it.

505
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: Man.

506
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: So it's like and there's so many outlets, right, so

507
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: like if you if you really want to do it, man,

508
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: put your shit on YouTube, put it on Vimeo, whatever,

509
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: all these little sites like for example Vimeo, even YouTube,

510
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: you get subscriber base, right, just put it out there.

511
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: But like, yo, just subscribe. It's ninety nine cents or whatever.

512
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: Now you're making money off of it too, right, or

513
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: you could do the other way.

514
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: Was.

515
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: It's like, if people believe in you, you do the

516
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: whatever that thing is called, like a crowd crowd crowd participation. Yeah,

517
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: like so you you can put the money.

518
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 4: Then you gotta tell these y ends if you come

519
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 4: on set, don't drink, don't smoke. Just because you're playing

520
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 4: against right, don't mean you gotta be gangster on set.

521
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: I don't see.

522
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: I don't see actors who gangsters. But then when they

523
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: turn off the cameras, they super nerds look at that

524
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: regular and I think you get the dude to our

525
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: nerds that become actors, and all of a sudden, now

526
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: they think they that.

527
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you because you gotta understand when you're outside,

528
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 4: they they you know they're gonna we're gonna.

529
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: See you as that.

530
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: Give us one of give us, give us one of

531
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 3: the wireless moments you've seen like behind scenes on the

532
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 3: video video movie because I'm mad my videos. Shoot one

533
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 3: time you saw with me in future use actually about

534
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: the us about the poppy shop these.

535
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: I forgot you know about that. It was actually a

536
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: popular on all this too.

537
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 2: You need to know about.

538
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 3: I didn't know who they was, and I guess they

539
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 3: wasn't really familiar with who he was, but it was

540
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 3: about to get left. They got mad.

541
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: This dancing.

542
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: It was popular, but I didn't know because you know,

543
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: sometimes you see that's the thing. Sometimes you kind of

544
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: you black out because all you see like you get

545
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: tunnel vision, right, and you just did the work. So

546
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: like the first time I did power, I came on

547
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: the block. We was outside. Yo, When I tell you,

548
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: I was in a van driving down. I seen block

549
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: after block with all the trucks, like all the equipment.

550
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: And I got to set and it's like two hundred

551
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: people looking at you, and the actors is staring at

552
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: you right what we're doing. The producer look at you.

553
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: What we're doing. I saw to God that first moment

554
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: I shipped myself. I was like, Yo, this is crazy.

555
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: So you was nervous, super nervous, right, And then what

556
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: I think God had seen was inside the car, so

557
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, guys, just get in the car.

558
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: But I was really show to me myself. And then

559
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: I spoke to them just to get it out of

560
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: my system. And then once I did that, then it

561
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: was a go. After that, it was you know, I.

562
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: Mean, but I think, but I think that's a real

563
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 2: story right there.

564
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's crazy, yo.

565
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: Man.

566
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: We talked about the movie. I tell another story with

567
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: that one. But you know, the for these young cats man,

568
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, and the wild this ship is like the

569
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: ship that sucked is when you get the opportunity and

570
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: you fuck it up.

571
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: It up.

572
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing, right because us as as black

573
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: and brown people, we don't get a lot of opportunity,

574
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: of course, you know what I mean. And you got

575
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: especially in Hollywood. In Hollywood you got brother like fifth

576
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like like I've gotten those

577
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: things where it's like, yo, are you sure you didn't

578
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: want to do these type of shows? And I'm like,

579
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: I'm cool over here because I'm building with my people

580
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: of course, so I don't need to go through those

581
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: other shows that like just for the awards, I don't.

582
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm good, right, you know what I'm saying. So, but

583
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: again it's like you if you get that opportunity, man,

584
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: don't fuck it up by taking your money, and you're

585
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: gonna be sleeping with a thousand strippers and getting high

586
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: right and whatever coming is set drunk and smoking and

587
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: all that. Like you just come on, man, nobody want

588
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: that you had to work. You know what I mean,

589
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: do your ten hours or whatever, now hours work, do

590
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: your thing, go do that shit afterwards. I mean, but

591
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: you got to be on point, man, Like this shit

592
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: is so hard.

593
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: You know what I wanted to ask you, how do

594
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: you think directing changed from like two thousand and five

595
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: to twenty twenty five?

596
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 2: Like, now, how do you think it changed? When you

597
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: say change like that a ship niga, what you do?

598
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: No, No, when you're saying like like like what we've

599
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: see now versus like, I mean, I think I think

600
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: it's changing because there's there's more of us getting involved.

601
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: Right when I say us, you know again black and

602
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: brown people, right, you know we're really taking a series

603
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: of really trying to learn the craft. Ryan Cooler and

604
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: all these other catch right, Like man, you see them

605
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: and that inspires you.

606
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: Right, You're like, what's my man? At this sentence? They

607
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: like Ryan Cooler? Yeah, what else he did?

608
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: Because they say he did the creed, he did create

609
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: one two that's did Fruitville Station with his first joint.

610
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: He worked with Michael b Joing the lot.

611
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 4: I guess they yeah, crying, Yeah, I've seen him crying

612
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 4: when because Centers did real good first week, they a

613
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 4: lot of millions, and yeah, I've seen he was like

614
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 4: tearing up like yo now because because because what it is,

615
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 4: I mean the deal he worked on with that movie

616
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 4: where because he did Black, Panther, Creed and all that,

617
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 4: so he made he made them billions.

618
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 1: Now he's doing centers.

619
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: He owns it.

620
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: After twenty five years his deal. He owns the movie.

621
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: So now that's a legacy, that's for his kids.

622
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: He owned all of the movies.

623
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: He ow'n he owned Sinners after Black.

624
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: I was just confused.

625
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: So now hew, it's like a record deal. So now

626
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: he owned it. So after twenty five years and then

627
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: his deal, I think he get like first dollar once

628
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: they make their gross whatever their budget was, boom, he

629
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: gets the first.

630
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: Dollar right so to him, whichange normal, you know what

631
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: I mean. So so, but that's what I'm saying.

632
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: You do ship like that. That's power, right, So now

633
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: you start like, okay, how do I that helps me

634
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: help the next guy?

635
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: You feel like that that's what drives your creativity because

636
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 4: that's what I was going to ask Murders Truck question

637
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 4: for me, what drives your creativity?

638
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: Now?

639
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: I think listening, I think for me, the creativities. I

640
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 1: went to art school, right, I went to on design,

641
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: and like I said, I was always graffiti and ship

642
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: like that, comic books and all that, and so I

643
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: could draw like I could draw like a motherfucker like

644
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: I could, you know what I mean. You know, I

645
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: did the air Punk logo for Punk.

646
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: Back then.

647
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: I used to do a bunch of logo for Punk.

648
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: I did the Snowman for JZ. Like back then, I

649
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: was doing.

650
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: Snow like.

651
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I did a bunch of other ones like

652
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: if you if you GZ mentioned in his book when

653
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: I made the Storeman, Joe mentioned like, yeah, like that's

654
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: what I was doing back then, album covers logos.

655
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: That's crazy look at that. So I was always into

656
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: the So you made the snow Man, you said with Jez,

657
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: and it's your sets in Jez. But it made this

658
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: happen to Shelter j you know, Team out Shelter, Team

659
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: out man, not you, you know what I mean.

660
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: But but the creativity, man, I think it just comes

661
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: from like just being out seeing everything, living life. Were

662
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: talking about that you got something that you're working on

663
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: that that that castro oh yeah yeah yeah we just

664
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: finished that. We're about to It's finished. Yeah, it's about

665
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: ninety eight percent done. Like it's just a lot of

666
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: the v factors.

667
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: Like you know, DJ Caller got as soon to do

668
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 2: with that. I've seen him posted on the ground. Yeah, yeah,

669
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: you know, I know.

670
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: Everything. Why do you want to bring that.

671
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: Because I was talking another day and I'm like, I

672
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 4: could never be mad at Caller because his loyalty was

673
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: to Joe and my loyalty was to fifty at the

674
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 4: same time.

675
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: Uh, you know what I'm saying.

676
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: So even if we still gonna have to sit down

677
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: and talk about not even if.

678
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 4: We don't talk, because you know, it's cool, it's Joe.

679
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: Everything is cools piece. Nobody got hurt, no bullets fly,

680
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 4: nothing happened. So that's the best part of it. Yeah,

681
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

682
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: It's just little old war stories.

683
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: That you know, if I think you need to make

684
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: that happen, we're gonna my brother man, Like you know,

685
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: so he did play a part with the cast.

686
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: So I started this movie right before I got it.

687
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: It was to Romins Entertainment. Before I got it was

688
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: another director attached. Wasn't the right person right, Like it

689
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: was just it wasn't working out. So I came in

690
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: and I cast you know, like the movie like within

691
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: two weeks, like we already had all the actors, you

692
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and one of them being Appucino,

693
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: so not everybody could get Appatino. Not the first time,

694
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: just yview was I think it was scored. Somebody said

695
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: it took him years, him and our years to finally

696
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: do something together, and I was like, damn, I did

697
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: it first. It was crazy, I mean. But yeah, So

698
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: like we wrote this part, you know, the writer of

699
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: Time and a couple of the cats, and you know,

700
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: we kind of tweaked it to be like how I

701
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: would do it, and so we sent it to the

702
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: agents and he was interested, right, So he was like, Yo,

703
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: this is the first time I'm saying it.

704
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: Like, appreciate that, but yo.

705
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: So so he read it and he wanted to meet

706
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: with me, right, so like a half hour, you know,

707
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: to meet him and see what he's about. So, nigga,

708
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm shipping for like a week straight, nervous to meet

709
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: app Yeah.

710
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, you know, I'm.

711
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 4: Glad when you say you nervous because it's like, you know,

712
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 4: that's the humbling part about it. It's like you said,

713
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 4: you were scared on your first shoot man, people outside,

714
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 4: This is way different than a fucking yadeo.

715
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I was, it was.

716
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the funny thing is when you

717
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: eat these different artists, even back then, like the fifth

718
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, I was nervous, like you know, I mean,

719
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: like the big dogs, you know what I mean. Like,

720
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: but with him, you know what I mean, Like, this

721
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: is life changing. So I went to the restaurant where

722
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: he wanted to meet, and I get there like a

723
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: half hour early because I'm like, let me just chill out.

724
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: When I drank like, you know, forty cups of coffee

725
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: by now hours And I go to sit down and

726
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: I put my bag down first.

727
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: I go in and I'm like that who you hear?

728
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: Like reservations.

729
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: I was like Alfred Pacino, like literally under his name.

730
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

731
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: So I go in the back and I put my

732
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: bag down and ship and all of a sudden, I

733
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: heard there is and I turned around his fucking hour

734
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: behind me, like he's right there, like he's coming in,

735
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh shit, like nah, this is

736
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: like come on, bro, you know we'd be starstruck. Yeah,

737
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: Like I was like, yo, but you know, you gotta

738
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: be cool. So so we sat down and I remember

739
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm texting the producer under the table like where you at?

740
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: Because I was like, I'm here, Dolover with this cat.

741
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: Where you at?

742
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: He trying to get there. But we were talking and.

743
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: Yo.

744
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: It was crazy because he started naming all the directors

745
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: he ever worked with, like he was throwing it in

746
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: my face. He's like, yo, so you heard of Mars

747
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: Scot Safecy, you heard of you know, Michael Man. He

748
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: just kept name dropping and I'm like, yeah, but I

749
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: know what he was doing. And so he started telling

750
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: me stories. So he started off a surproco. So he's like,

751
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: you know when I been surproco, you know back then?

752
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: You know he was saucy whatever he was doing. And see,

753
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: you know, he woke up and he had a joint

754
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: next to him and he was like, I know, I

755
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: do not because she was still dressed or whatever, right,

756
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: and then his phone was ringing and he had to

757
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: go to Premier and he's like, yo, So it was crazy.

758
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: It was for me and I'm like, I'm he was saucy,

759
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: and while he's trying to say, yeah, I'm saucy this

760
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: and that, and then so Seene forty nine, when I'm

761
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: walking down the hallway, could you explain that to me?

762
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: I said, Oh shit, he's doing the vet actor ship

763
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: like actors do that, like they be man cool with you,

764
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: joking and all that, and then all of a sudden,

765
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: they that's crazy.

766
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: No Fifth done that to me?

767
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: Like Fifth will be like, yo, we were talking the

768
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: night before, like what we're doing the next morning, he's

769
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: dead seriously, what we're doing? Why the fuck we doing that?

770
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: Like and I'd be like, yo, my man, that was

771
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: going on here, but it's different. You know, we're working now, right,

772
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: and so what I'm about, your man? No more man,

773
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: your man. So he went into like the scene. I

774
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, But I knew the script inside out,

775
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: so I was like, yeah, this is what happens.

776
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:51,959
Speaker 2: Boom boom.

777
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: Then he started talking about Scarface.

778
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: Yo.

779
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: You know when I did Scarface. You know, they killed

780
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: me for that, like the critics people.

781
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: Calling me, and that's my favorite. I watched it.

782
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: Listen get that get to that. So look, he says

783
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: it almost destroyed his career. They killed him for that,

784
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: meaning who his peans and things people Hollywood that was like,

785
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: what you're doing? He leaned then and he grabbed my

786
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: forearm right, put your on form like this to me,

787
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: grab my arm.

788
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: He said.

789
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: Now the first time y'all heard, the first time I'm

790
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: saying it publicly. He said, you know who saved my life?

791
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: I said who the rappers?

792
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: The rappers saved my life.

793
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: Wow.

794
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: Wow Joe and I looked at him like they're like, wow,

795
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: look at that. So I think a piece of that.

796
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: I was like, he had to see my work. He

797
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: knew I'll come from video. I could only imagine his

798
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: people with the agency whatever you talking about the Cat

799
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: Reward winner, Yo, don't like don't poll said this come.

800
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: Out like who? Like who?

801
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to be working with him.

802
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: But his experiences I think he said, no, no, no,

803
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: I gotta give I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna give

804
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: him a shot. I'm gonna give him a shot. And

805
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: bro he said that, and I was like, oh, ship right,

806
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: and but we and then we just kept talking about

807
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: the movie and ship like that. I always had a vision.

808
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: I was telling him. The producer Brad. I was like, Yo,

809
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: when al come on set, we got a scene outside,

810
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: is what we're doing during the summertime, it's gonna be hot.

811
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: So for whatever reason, like because I'm sort of spiritual,

812
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I say, yo, I'm gonna get them

813
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: beach chairs like that jay Z photo when he's in

814
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: the projects on the beach chair. I said him to

815
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: get to those chairs, and I'm gonna sit.

816
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: Down with al Ice Crean.

817
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why I was thinking about that ice cream.

818
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: It was like, Yo, you're crazy, Like, what the fuck

819
00:37:59,480 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: is wrong?

820
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 2: Right? Yo?

821
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: The story shitting now. At the restaurant after we talk

822
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: about work, he said, you hungry, Let's get some fries.

823
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: Man saying he's order man food that we eat. I

824
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: ain't even realize. You know how when you go to

825
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: catch or whatever and they bring you to play the

826
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: ice cream and everybody just take this spoon. Bro, That's

827
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: what we was doing. So it's the end we eating

828
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: ice cream. I didn't realize you said. My visit came

829
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: to life, yo. I know you know the producer. We

830
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: go outside, we walk out to his car and he's that,

831
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: congratulations you had your ice cream with al.

832
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 4: Them two right there. It's just classic ship for everybody.

833
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 4: Scar Face Carlito's way. He the list goes on and on.

834
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: So just to be sitting there with al Pacino, broo,

835
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: that's come on, bro now listen, he's gonna be ad.

836
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: So we hit it off crazy, were telling him iknew definitely.

837
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 2: She was from Brooklyn though he'st Brooklyn.

838
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: But he's gonna be at So we talked a lot

839
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: about that, and he would say to me like, yo,

840
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm doing his book, like you and me should just

841
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: go drive on the BRONX. I can reminisce and I'm like, yo,

842
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: whenever you're ready, like we clicked like we clicked to

843
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: that's dope. He like, Yo, if I'm not shooting, can

844
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: I come to set just to hang out? I was

845
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: like yeah. So he I had him for like ten

846
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: days or something like that, and we were prepping the office.

847
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: He's a funny dude, and he would looking like yo,

848
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know, bad bunny, And I

849
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, well, man, I worked at him.

850
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: He said, Oh, he's dope.

851
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: What about the weekend? You know weekend? Like he's yo.

852
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: He was like into that, you think.

853
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 4: The first thing I would ask al Pacino was like,

854
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 4: how the fuck do you just act like that?

855
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: Like Scarface?

856
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 4: When a covey of real nice like bro that was

857
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 4: like classic ship yo, like you. I would ask him

858
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 4: first of all, all about scar face because that's.

859
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 2: My but love.

860
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 1: I shot him out when I wrapped him out because

861
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: I think he was eighty two, eighty three, just had

862
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: a baby. They just had a baby. I was just

863
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: about saying that he just shut out the opportunity he

864
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: still had that baby. Yeah, had a lot going on, right,

865
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: and he came to work every day. Man, I think

866
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: people going to really bug out when they see his performance,

867
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: like he kilt it. And we had this thing man,

868
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: like we had a language. So like he was doing

869
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: one scene and we were always talking about stickball. So

870
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: in the BX stickball, So every Bronx, every neighborhood in

871
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: New York has two sewers. So when you playing the

872
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: one end of the sewer and you hit it to

873
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 1: the next block, then you hitting the third and fourth sewer.

874
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: So he'd be like, you ever hit three sewers? I

875
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: was like yeah, sometimes the ball would go on the

876
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: roof right building. So when we was doing the scene,

877
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: I was like I would yell across the room and

878
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: he was doing a scene like he when he was

879
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: against robber than they were now at the table, and

880
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: I yelled, I said, I'll give me three sewers, and

881
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: he'd be like three sewers coming up baby like.

882
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: He was a hot So.

883
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: The last time, the last day I had him, we

884
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: wrapped him out. We wrapped I got home like at midnight.

885
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: Just so y'all clear, we're talking about my guy, East

886
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: Faveri's movie cash killing, Cappaccino killing, starting a Placino.

887
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: We I got home at midnight after I wrapped him out,

888
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: mm hmm yo. And I just sat on my workout

889
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: bench and I cried for two hours. God, bless you man,

890
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: two hours. Be I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna

891
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: tell you why.

892
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: Thank you.

893
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why though what I was saying before,

894
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: by Hollywood. Now the meetings are different, you understand. Now

895
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: when I sit there, I can't look at.

896
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: Me like who you work with.

897
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little different now. So you sit there

898
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: and it's the confidence because now you go, look, y'all

899
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: only got two Robert den erro and the opportunity living legends.

900
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean you got a few others, but no, you

901
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: got play.

902
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: But you know it's still Schwarz and a whole bunch

903
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: of other names. Right.

904
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: So that's so now you sit there and you go,

905
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: y'all threw the one at me, like the universe threw

906
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: the one at me. Dealt with it. He loves me.

907
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: Hit him up, hit up his whole team. They're gonna

908
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: tell you, right what you gonna tell me?

909
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: Now?

910
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: Now what you know what I'm saying. But but it's

911
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: it's always a challenge. It is always something new, you

912
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, even like for you to get

913
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: the next thing that what we got to see what

914
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: you did right?

915
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 2: Resume it? Don't it?

916
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: Don't is you know it's hard you did that? Man,

917
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: that's dope was a tricky business.

918
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 3: What would you tell the next the next young director

919
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: coming out of New York, Well, what advice would you

920
00:42:59,040 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: have for them?

921
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: Learn as much as you can. It's okay to look

922
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: at everybody else's work and try to copy it and

923
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: try to figure out how they did it, you know

924
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: what I mean? So like you could learn how the

925
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: camera work, get at the angles, look at the lighting

926
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: and all that, right, but also like just keep shooting,

927
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: bro like, keep shooting, like and even if you want

928
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: to get into TV, or something like that, or commercials

929
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: right or eat music videos. Like I tell people all

930
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 1: the time, you're gonna get into commercials. To a Pepsi commercial,

931
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: how I don't have no agent, I have nothing.

932
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: How do you do that?

933
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: You go get a Pepsi bottle, you go write a

934
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: scene out and you shoot it. Wow, and it's suspect.

935
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: That's what you call a spec commercial. So now you

936
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: shot it and they're like, oh you did this. It's

937
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: this never aired like nah, but it's it's suspect.

938
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: How much and how much is my check for that?

939
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: For the for the commercial? Thinking about it, I'm just.

940
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 1: Not yeah experience right, because like now you get picked

941
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: up by an agency or whatever and then he PEPSI

942
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: really want you to do it. I think that a

943
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: going rate for a director to do a commercial. It's

944
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: it's usually like twenty five thousand a day. Oh shit, yeah,

945
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: so like ready you know what I'm saying. But it's

946
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 1: the same thing. You go shoot a short, go shoot

947
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: the homies, Go shoot a scene like somebody got cancer

948
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: age or whatever. Shoot that and show the emotions and that, right,

949
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 1: you know, I mean what happens. Just make it up whatever,

950
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: Just write and make it up real life. Yeah, and

951
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: then just send it out, you know what I mean,

952
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: Like you're not just standing around with a camera. I

953
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do nothing like waiting for work. No, that's

954
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: a good idea. I never knew that was easy to

955
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: just do a special commercial back. You know what I'm saying,

956
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: get your money up, you know what I'm saying. But like,

957
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: but for me, I started like with the camera, like

958
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: I said, shooting cats and I loved it. Man. I

959
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: just kept going and kept going and kept going until

960
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think the first my

961
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: first video going back to Fifth was when he did

962
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: the Alisha Keys and dre joined and he said to me,

963
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now.

964
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: He kept it real.

965
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now. You ain't gonna get this.

966
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: They don't know you, and the Scope don't know you.

967
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,959
Speaker 1: They're not gonna give you the money. But I'm gonna

968
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: give you these records off my album. You're gonna do

969
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: these for real. And I was like, oh shit, And

970
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: that was my gateway through Fifth. I got into in

971
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: the Scope and then we started doing videos.

972
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 2: That's crazy because fifty don't like too many people.

973
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, but one week in one week, in one week,

974
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: so everybody started calling like, yo, who the fuck is

975
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: e fa Vera? And one week I dropped two videos.

976
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: And when I say everybody me like video commissioners and

977
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: video reps, They was like, who the fuck is this?

978
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: I dropped two videos in one week? It was fifty

979
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: Drake can't be you remember? Remember up?

980
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 2: I think?

981
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: And then I dropped French Montana and Nicki Minaj Freaks. Okay,

982
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 1: So when I dropped those two, it was just like

983
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: name some more, man, name some more.

984
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 2: We want to know some more videos you do? Now?

985
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: You big time movie?

986
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: Don't you know what the thing is that I don't

987
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: follow up? Like I don't. I don't. I don't like

988
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: look at the hits and all that, like you know

989
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: I did one right couple with you. Yeah we did

990
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: a couple of course. Yeah we did that future. Yeah yeah,

991
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: the Future was like when he had that mixtape. But

992
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: I think videos with.

993
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: I'm just like, you know, we did some gunit videos

994
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: and trying to remember you did so we did so

995
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: many so you know.

996
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: I mean I worked with you know Drake, like I said,

997
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: can drag?

998
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: What drink? What Drake video? You did him? The Future.

999
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: We did the Mexican Joint, which one I think used

1000
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: to it or something like that, one of those five.

1001
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 2: And then what you did with Kendrick Him, Oh yeah, okay.

1002
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: Then Nicki Minajen did a bunch of her, you know

1003
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: what I mean, I was, I became one of her,

1004
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: like she was regulars. Like and how I got into.

1005
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: Latin the south side, you know queens? But I said, you.

1006
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: Because the Nikki, I got into the Latin market.

1007
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

1008
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: So that's when I met Bad Bunny. So it was

1009
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: a record called Creepy because of her. Say that because

1010
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: it was a Latin record, Ruko Bad Bunny and I

1011
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: forgot who else? And then they put Nikki as a feature,

1012
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 1: and they put Travis too as a feature. So Nicky

1013
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know none of the DI records.

1014
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: It gotta be ef Loo and they brought me in

1015
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: and I did that, and then from there then I

1016
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: started working with Bad Bunny. We did a couple yeah,

1017
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: and a couple of jibing, and like we started working.

1018
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: So damn you blessed man, you're real pleas Nah.

1019
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: I think, man, I appreciate that, but I think, really

1020
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: it's more like put the work in man. Yeah, put

1021
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: the work to the new directors out there that want

1022
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: to do videos or whatever. Like, Bro, you can't be

1023
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: scared man, right, you can't be scared to talk to

1024
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: the artists. Like that's the whole thing. Like, find that

1025
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: one artist that want to rock out with you, right,

1026
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: rock out with him with me? And Fifth for example.

1027
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: But I was never scared of Fifth, like to the

1028
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: point of being like yo, because you know physical, he's

1029
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: like a road.

1030
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's intimidating.

1031
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 3: Scared to have a conversation with him. Yeah, explain you.

1032
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 3: I think this should go like this or.

1033
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: Something like this.

1034
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: One director who was like, Yo, I'm hungry. So I

1035
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: left him there and he would call me. I'm like, nigga,

1036
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: go talk fIF you hungry, go get something to eat.

1037
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: Oh.

1038
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 4: So you see he said he hungry, youtubet eat and

1039
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 4: he never came scared.

1040
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: You never came Wow. He probably why some Mickey D's

1041
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: or something like.

1042
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: Bro, he never came back. That's how tim dating Fifth was.

1043
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: Fifth was like, yo, never bring that catta again. And

1044
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: that kid sucked the ship up. Been doing power right now.

1045
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: Look at But that's my point. It's like, but you

1046
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: bugging out you could have just went yeah, you could

1047
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: got a big Max and.

1048
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 2: Y.

1049
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: It was Nas like everybody like they I think they

1050
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: were what you're doing because you know, I'm queens. I

1051
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: did a couple of joints with ours, but I remember

1052
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: the one we did that was I think before his

1053
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: time was French Kanye Nas the one day jumping over

1054
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: a big ass jumbo.

1055
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that. I remember, so I remember the

1056
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: dirt bikes.

1057
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like I tied everybody taking these videos

1058
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: and just regular sitting on the wing of Definitely he's

1059
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: like the biggest plane can yet. So we went to

1060
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: the Mohave Desert and we went to the airplane graveyard

1061
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: and it.

1062
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: Was just that it was a video French that was

1063
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 2: I think that was on French album. Yeah, I got it.

1064
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: I got a video back then of Kanye told me

1065
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: this is the best bet time I ever had on set.

1066
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: But I think it's because like I said before, man

1067
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: like you can't you got to like be there and

1068
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: tell the artists like that's the whole thing about directing.

1069
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: You got to be able to take charge because sometimes

1070
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: the artists don't know what they want, you know what

1071
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: I mean, Like they don't know.

1072
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: I was working with this artist, high.

1073
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 1: Profile, going to some shit right now where he kept

1074
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: asking me how does it look? My first time working

1075
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 1: with him, I was like, you look good. He would

1076
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: run down, look at the monitor, go back up through

1077
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: the ship, come back down like it was getting annoying.

1078
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: So the third time he came down, I put my

1079
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: hand on his shoulder. I said, Yo, you good, bro,

1080
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 1: And he looked at my hand, looked at me.

1081
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: We was good.

1082
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: After that, everything was like, yo, whatever eve want to do,

1083
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: because I know videos.

1084
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 4: Could shooting the videos. What do you think gets annoying sometimes?

1085
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 4: You know, you got people in your way, you got

1086
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 4: women everywhere. Yeah, yeah, I mean, man, it's it's a

1087
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 4: lot of work. People think it's a lot of work.

1088
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: The thing is like the artists want to come, be

1089
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: in and be out then, so you got to make

1090
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: sure this ship is ready, right, because you don't waste

1091
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: no time. That's the first thing.

1092
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: So say, if artists come late, how the fuck you

1093
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: feel you gotta already.

1094
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: Be shooting other ship. Definitely shoot the b roll, shoot

1095
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 1: the model, shoot the cars, whatever it is. Start shooting,

1096
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So when they get here

1097
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: and then you move over, shoot them out, get them

1098
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: out of it, and then keep shooting.

1099
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1100
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: And then I always tell for the new cast. I

1101
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: always say this like an artist is always gonna want

1102
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: one thing, right, Yo, I need I need to be

1103
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: on a boat for this scene, whatever it is, Joe,

1104
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: I need to be sitting on a flamingo. It's a hit, Yo,

1105
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: Get the fucking flamingo because you can get them that

1106
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: and then you got them after that. They happy, Nah,

1107
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: this one fuck out.

1108
00:51:58,880 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: Need a flamingo.

1109
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: I did him for the next Joe. Yeah, listen to me.

1110
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 1: I want to flaming an elephant and you have that ship,

1111
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: then yeah, gonna tell the crazy ship.

1112
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: Mary j.

1113
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: Blige, we know a lot of the same people, right

1114
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: Angie Joe definitely. And so I never worked with her,

1115
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: and I've been at parties with and all that. I

1116
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: said what's up and never really spoke. We go to

1117
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: shoot Ghosts and I said to Yo, it's crazy me

1118
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: and you never worked on a video, And she said, hell,

1119
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: we go shoot the movie. Then she said to me

1120
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: that because you were meant to do bigger things with

1121
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: me here.

1122
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 2: Wow. I was like wow, shoutut to Mary j shot.

1123
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: Now since that we done shot like four videos, four

1124
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: or five videos like.

1125
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 2: Video. That's right, but.

1126
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: It's like again, it's like artists want to be in

1127
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: and out. You're telling them what you're gonna do. You're

1128
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: showing what you're gonna do. They get that they expected,

1129
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: but they're gone. And then I edited on my own ship,

1130
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: so I already know what I need. Same thing with TV.

1131
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 1: I know what I'm shooting, I know what I want.

1132
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 4: But that's just smart because another director will probably be beefing,

1133
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 4: like why the same head.

1134
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: I don't work like this and you you you said

1135
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: you shoot never should then it ain't for you. That's what.

1136
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: Let me ask you one thing. Who's your top three

1137
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: favorite rappers to work with?

1138
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 2: Put me on the spot. First of all, hold on

1139
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: murder your Russian ship first. I want to.

1140
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: I don't want.

1141
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 4: It's queens oryce Brooklyn. It's a quick fire segment. And

1142
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 4: he want to know who's the top three rappers you considered.

1143
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: You work with?

1144
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: But he worked with so many, so that's a political Yeah,

1145
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: don't I'm asking him.

1146
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: I want to. I want.

1147
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this. I'm gonna tell you this

1148
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: like I never had beef for no Rappers, meaning like

1149
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: I've never been on set to a point where it's

1150
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: just so out of control You're like, Man, fuck this person.

1151
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: I don't never want with this person again. So I

1152
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: don't have none of those experiences. Man, I think everybody

1153
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: was was for me fun and the look.

1154
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 3: Besides Fifth, let's keep Fifth out of it. The top

1155
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 3: of your top three favorite to work with?

1156
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: He worked with so many.

1157
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: I want to know sometimes vibes with people, So I

1158
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 1: just want to know that your vibes. I mean Future

1159
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: was one of them, Okay, right, Future? You know because

1160
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: he come with creative ship.

1161
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: Man. Who else?

1162
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: I used to love working with Nikki too, and people

1163
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: used to be scared of she moved with an iron fist.

1164
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: We've been around a couple of.

1165
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: Everybody you worked with, he worked with. It's a big name.

1166
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask you a director question, camera wise, lench wise,

1167
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 4: sony versus canny?

1168
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 2: Which one do you pick? Man?

1169
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: There's so many different lenses though, Like it's hard to

1170
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: say because it all camera Would you use the son

1171
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: trying to break it a lot of the time, look

1172
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: for TV and film the Alexa like the Venice. That's

1173
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: what everybody's using, right, sometimes they use the sony and

1174
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 1: other stuff. But I feel like, for me, the venice

1175
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: is what's the venice, That's what is venice?

1176
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 2: Sony, no, what's but the lenses it all.

1177
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: It all depends on what you want to see, right, So,

1178
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: like what I mean by that is the look. So

1179
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: when I did the movie, we did lens tests, so

1180
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: we got a whole bunch of different lenses coming in

1181
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: and look for the right look the texture of the film,

1182
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: because every glass is different. You know, the ship is

1183
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: more expensive than the camera.

1184
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: No, I know, I know, I know that.

1185
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: Like if you're gonna gange, let me, let me just

1186
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: gotta get the lenses before anything, you had a dope

1187
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: lens package any camera, So you do lens tests, and

1188
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: what's the process with that? How long does that take?

1189
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: You know that you you coming home and and like

1190
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: for example, if I have the camera head, we're gonna

1191
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: swap out a bunch of different lens and see what

1192
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: the room looks like before, and then you know that's

1193
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get and that's what you're gonna shoot

1194
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: the movie with. My cameras is good?

1195
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? All right?

1196
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: Cool? Come on, everything.

1197
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 3: You know what's going on to this is always so

1198
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 3: we're still on a quick fire segment. Jay Z or Nas,

1199
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 3: that's always a question with quirements with Queens.

1200
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: You know you for the Bronx. You can just answer

1201
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: it and be just treat to yourself jay Z and Nas.

1202
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: You know what I put into that is also relationship.

1203
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: I know them, man, is your personal relationships.

1204
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 2: He's from the Bronx, so this is the foot question.

1205
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 2: He's not from Brooklyn.

1206
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: It's okay, d It's so hard, right, every time I

1207
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: think about Noads, I think of like Ether and everything Nads.

1208
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna go with Nas.

1209
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: I love Jay, but Queens Nods. I feel like Nas

1210
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: is like he's at the I mean they both man,

1211
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: but like Nas is like a secret weapon like that

1212
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: dude just sit there, he like locking, he gonna They

1213
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: wasn't inviting you to the Rock Nation Brothers anyway.

1214
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: I wasn't.

1215
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: Somebody said to me. Somebody says to me, well, I

1216
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: ain't think you know you that type of person that

1217
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: want to come out to that, And I was like, thanks, Leney, Yes,

1218
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: a question, sement.

1219
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: It's a long spend, a long day on set.

1220
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 4: You've been working with all these actors and you know,

1221
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 4: you know you want to wind down, you're gonna do dark.

1222
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: Look up white liquor like swine or like what do

1223
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: you cigar?

1224
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: Nah, I don't drink too after I wrap hm, because

1225
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: this what happens that when you're done with the d

1226
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: That's what I mean.

1227
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: After after Yeah, I.

1228
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: Mean, I'm somebody's trying to put me onto tequila because

1229
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm a vodka dude.

1230
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1231
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: I drink vodka, but they trying to put me school

1232
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: into tequila. And I had a bad experience in tequila.

1233
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: So that's why I kind of stay away from Nah

1234
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: I should fuck me up.

1235
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: I mixed. I mixed them. You can't mix.

1236
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was drinking vodka and then somebody's like, nah,

1237
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: I gotta try this, and then out tripping man.

1238
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: I was tripping up.

1239
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 3: I had one of those dream collab dead or alive

1240
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 3: that you never worked with, Like your dream collab meaning

1241
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 3: what music, videos, music, whatever, it was live or an

1242
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 3: actor somebody you thought about working with that you just

1243
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 3: didn't work with your prior somebody would like to work with.

1244
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: You know what I think of the era right, Like

1245
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: I would love to work with somebody like Michael back then,

1246
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: or like I think of like Christopher Walking and King

1247
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: of New York right, like he Matt Old right now,

1248
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: so like in that era, right, or even like Denzel,

1249
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: Like come on, Zel, like.

1250
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 4: We need you, you know, we need you to name

1251
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 4: at least five of your favorite movies from all times,

1252
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 4: because you know, I watch a lot of movies. Like

1253
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 4: I told people they didn't even know there was a

1254
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 4: Superman three and Richard Pride was in that and that

1255
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:23,959
Speaker 4: was like his breakaway movie.

1256
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, because because Superman was like

1257
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: the biggest thing in the eighties.

1258
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: Now, you know, I did some movies that I watched

1259
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: over and over Man too, like like Uncle Buck is

1260
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: another one for me. You know, I watch a lot

1261
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: of sci fi too, Like I'm into sci fi, I

1262
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: Aliens and all that ship. Let me too, come on

1263
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: talking about movies like case I'm a name for example,

1264
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: one of my favorite his choices, one of my.

1265
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 2: No like one of them is, for example, a Rival.

1266
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 2: You might think it's.

1267
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,919
Speaker 1: Boring about about on the Earth.

1268
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but you got that you got training day right?

1269
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: Training sound like that New York. I love New York, you.

1270
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: Know, what I'm saying, heat another one of course, okay, right, yeah,

1271
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: one of them. I mean the best performances was Malcolm

1272
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: Max Denzel.

1273
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: Was that was a classic. Yeah, what else I'm trying

1274
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 2: to spike He's doing another one with that man.

1275
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's another movie I love. I could watch

1276
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: over and over and over because I just think, what

1277
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: if that should really happened? Is the Brad Pitt Joint

1278
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: World war Z? Oh yeah, that was a cool one.

1279
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 2: Everywhere like Smith, I like to, Okay, thanks the movie.

1280
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: Some of them games, the movies dope, like you know,

1281
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: the Sugar Hills and all that, like back then, right

1282
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: like it's I mean I kind of wish and it's

1283
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: I try to but there's a classic, yeah, in the classic,

1284
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: but but I just kind of wish we could still

1285
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: do some of those, right New Jack City, the you know,

1286
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you got the power, you can recreate some

1287
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: of these, but.

1288
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 4: Just that ever, right like Clockers, Your Clockers was about

1289
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 4: come on New Jersey Drive, like.

1290
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: Like you know, just telling our stories, you know what

1291
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you could do the Fantasy Ship or whatever,

1292
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: but of course about telling those stories like because.

1293
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: That was I guess for us like that was our era.

1294
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't know.

1295
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: What do you watch? Do you watch the old old

1296
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 2: movies like The Mac?

1297
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 4: And like, you know, what was a classic for me

1298
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,479
Speaker 4: that's old, like seventies movie was Bad Boy with Sean

1299
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 4: Penn when he beat the dude with the soda.

1300
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 2: Bottles back the soda cans?

1301
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: Was that in the Bronx too?

1302
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 2: Was No, it wasn't Chicago, That's what that was it?

1303
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like you know, I'll go back and watch

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Speaker 1: the old Ship.

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01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: I know you watched The Mac.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't remember, but yeah, Goldie, come on Color America.

1307
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Speaker 1: You like Uncle Buck?

1308
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 4: Though, Uncle Buck is a classic for me, John Candy,

1309
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 4: I don't remember because about talking about that's the classic

1310
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 4: I'm talking about over here, bro, So you remember you

1311
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 4: feel Uncle Buck?

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Speaker 1: Man, John Candy, you don't know.

1313
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what Uncle John Candy? Come on, bro, he

1314
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 2: was funny. Yeah yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean you know, I just for me, I just want

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Speaker 1: to make ship that.

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Speaker 2: Is is.

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Speaker 1: That we could relate to as the people mean, like

1319
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: like you know, it's funny man. You see these movies,

1320
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: these war movies and ship like that, but you don't

1321
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: never see it from.

1322
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Speaker 2: Our perspective, you know what I mean. And that's that's

1323
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 2: my thing.

1324
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to do this, so I want

1325
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: to do this, and why can't I have? Every time

1326
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: we see like a military movie or whatever is in

1327
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: special laps and and a bunch of white dudes running.

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Speaker 4: The fifties appreciated because I always say, I say, I

1329
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 4: never knew what about stars. Yeah, not to sound cocky

1330
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 4: or nothing, but I never knew about stars two fifty

1331
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 4: started doing everything nowhere. Yeah, So I mean the reaction

1332
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 4: y'all got from power Power was what eight years, seven

1333
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 4: year runs ten years right now?

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01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, got raised Kanaan out right now killing it.

1335
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's gonna keep going.

1336
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 4: It's crazy, man, It's something to me like it's upthing

1337
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 4: with like classes like the y Suprianos one.

1338
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: But that's the thing, right, Like the reason why that

1339
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: works so well because you got a guy like fifty

1340
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: who's gonna tell you nah, like I forgot. There was

1341
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: a scene with somebody jigger syrup they had to cough

1342
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: medicine of the coup and all that and the sprite.

1343
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and fifth was the.

1344
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: One that told him that's how you do it right.

1345
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: And then like I was we was doing we did

1346
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: be in math. They were trying to figure out how

1347
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: to how to cook coke. And I was like, come on,

1348
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: like we show y'all whatever you I mean, like the

1349
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: war in the pot.

1350
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1351
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: So I think that's the thing. A lot of these

1352
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: TV shows that they go off and they try to

1353
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: do these like Gangster or try to tell all stuff.

1354
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: When you see the people that's really behind it, You're like,

1355
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: you don't know our story like that to tell it. Yeah,

1356
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: Tommy Denzel said that he was like what he is

1357
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: he the interview he was talking about like somebody asked

1358
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: him like we have made a movie like Shindles this

1359
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,959
Speaker 1: versus the fact that the movie he was talking about.

1360
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: But he was like, you know, as a black director,

1361
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: whatever he goes. You know, we know what a hot

1362
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: cone was small? Like like you know, and I say that,

1363
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: like you're gonna do something Latin, like you understand like

1364
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: how to rights and beans, how the mom's going to

1365
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: be cooking it? How you mean like all that stuff,

1366
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: Like you lot to understand what that what that is?

1367
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: So you got to hire to write people Sometimes they

1368
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: just you don't have the authenticity that you don't have

1369
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: authentic people. They just they slap ship together and then

1370
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: you're like, oh yeah, they're gonna go out. You don't

1371
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: how many scripts that I got that I'm like.

1372
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 4: This ain't no understand because you've ever seen the documentary

1373
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 4: I think it's called first One on.

1374
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: The Cast called Denzel Washington. A lot of it's great.

1375
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 4: I watched it and and it had like black making good,

1376
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 4: black actresses and black actors.

1377
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: Then that call first one on the cash, number one,

1378
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 2: number one on the call something like that like that,

1379
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 2: and it was talking.

1380
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 4: About like Jamie Fox's first time, you know, you know

1381
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 4: with d jan and old and certain movies, they.

1382
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,919
Speaker 2: The first one. That's when you're the priority, like com

1383
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: the property.

1384
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: Here, you know, you like she's the priority, right Like

1385
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: it's macay is you know Betina Miller or you know,

1386
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: going back to Ghosts, this is Tariq, Like he's the

1387
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: number one, Like he's he's it's really who's perspective are

1388
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: you watching? And this movie or this show through? Okay,

1389
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: that's the number one of the show. You know what

1390
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But it takes, I mean, it takes a

1391
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: lot to be that number one. Yeah, that's what that

1392
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: show was about.

1393
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so watching that show.

1394
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 4: And the women on the show was saying like sometimes

1395
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 4: when they Vivoicat was talking about how she was on

1396
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 4: Independence Day, she didn't like the way her hair looks.

1397
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 4: She looked crazy picture of hair. But when she's on

1398
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 4: set of maybe something, Tyler Perry's doing something that you

1399
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 4: know black people is directing that they got the right

1400
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 4: people doing their hair and they makeup because these people

1401
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 4: might not do your hair make up the way these

1402
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 4: people do. So it was an interesting documentary man.

1403
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: Right, it's about the people behind the camera, behind the scenes,

1404
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: hair makeup, wardrobe, like you got to have the right

1405
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: people understand that, you know what I mean, how to

1406
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: comb the hair, how to get it straight. You know,

1407
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: I mean all that stuff make up. You know, same

1408
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: thing with lighting and everything else. It's it's certain way

1409
01:06:56,360 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: you got to light a dark person, brown skin, whatever.

1410
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: You got to know how to like them. Because I

1411
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: would never use like a green light for like a highlight,

1412
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: because what happens you put green or say you look

1413
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: at the skin look like a zombie, Like the skin

1414
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: look bad, and it's like, yo, you can't use green

1415
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: like you know, or you not even blue like you

1416
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: could like I think there's certain shows that do that.

1417
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: But but reality the dark skin, like when it's brown,

1418
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: you gotta use warm temperature like the yellows and you

1419
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like the cool warm and it

1420
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: compliments the skins.

1421
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 2: Hear that shooting me? Yeah? Right, like no fucking zombie

1422
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 2: on learned a lot today, man.

1423
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 3: Telling people what you got coming up next? You got

1424
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 3: coming up trying to the s down. Brother, I'm gonna

1425
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 3: let you first of all, got we got the mics clip.

1426
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 1: It's like we're going.

1427
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 2: Everybody, We just you just gotta have a distance, of course.

1428
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: But now so so the Cashow movie Killing cash Show.

1429
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: We're going the festival with y'all, look forward to big time.

1430
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: The cast is crazy, like you. Laye was in Bill Street.

1431
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: She was the leading now she was also the Old Guard.

1432
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: She was coming to America. That's right. Then I got

1433
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 1: the kid from the Blue Beetles Sholo, who was also

1434
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: in uh Copra Kai.

1435
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 2: Right.

1436
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 1: We got man Ron Levingston. You got Jiggle Bonetta like

1437
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: he's a huge Mexican star.

1438
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 2: Bro.

1439
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: We got Frankie faz On, Kendrick Sampson.

1440
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 2: From from.

1441
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: Man What was that show on HBO the name of

1442
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: the show.

1443
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 3: But you got Kendrick, I heard you her, I heard

1444
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 3: you mentioned the film because some people think it's easy.

1445
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: So look, the film is shot. So now you still

1446
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: got to go down to the festivals. Sometimes you go

1447
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 1: there with a distributor of they've seen the movie beforehand.

1448
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: They'll buy it and you go there, or you go

1449
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: there to sell it. Okay, So we go to for example,

1450
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: Toronto Film Festival. That's international, so you're gonna get a

1451
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 1: lot of buyers. So like you get like Amazon, Netflix

1452
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: or whatever, we won't buy it. We won't run international.

1453
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: And then we also want to do the States because

1454
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 1: it's all about distribution. Distribute the movie.

1455
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 2: You know what's the main question of the show.

1456
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 4: Though, before we close out Murder, we're going to get

1457
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 4: in something you ain't.

1458
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 2: We all right, here we go.

1459
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: So right now I'm working on another film project, okay,

1460
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let your I know. But but the

1461
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: story is gonna be the bio pic. Okay, throw back

1462
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 1: you ready, Kimbo.

1463
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: Slice make Murder Kimbo.

1464
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: That's gonna be Miami. That's gonna be like m M

1465
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: A U.

1466
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 2: S C.

1467
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: People think you're gonna get over that backyard and ship like, yeah,

1468
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna see that, but you're gonna really see the journey,

1469
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: like when he punched that one guy I always had

1470
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: that was so you know, originally I had it and

1471
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: then fifth was gonna play that role, and so I'm

1472
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: gonna have to act again.

1473
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 2: You could have well that murder fight both.

1474
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: I'm good on that role.

1475
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:32,759
Speaker 2: Get another rock.

1476
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: You know it's gonna be It's gonna be a bunch

1477
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: of ship man. So you keep us in mind, You.

1478
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 2: Keep us in.

1479
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: Good luck surviving the off season football fans.

1480
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 2: At first, that was afraid. I was petrified football is over.

1481
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: It's like a part of me just died inside two hundred.

1482
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: But tonight I won't just cry because I've got a

1483
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: waste to play and that's the place with hard rock

1484
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: bed I we survive. Offered by the Seminal Tribe of Florida.

1485
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 3: Must be twenty one plus and physically president in Florida

1486
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 3: to wag your Terms of conditions apply.

1487
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 1: If you or someone you know as a family problem,

1488
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: please call one eight three three play wise