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Speaker 1: Welcome back to our number three of our ongoing live

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Speaker 1: coverage from Steelers training camp here at Saint Fncent College.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with d Lalli and Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: and it is time Matt for the Fantasy football focus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, as we do at the top of our

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Speaker 1: three here at our training camp practices. And uh looking

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Speaker 1: here at again Mike clay Fantasy Football Ultimate Draft Board.

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Speaker 1: The perfect picks for every round.

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Speaker 2: That's fun.

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Speaker 1: Okay, see how much we agree with this and disagree

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Speaker 1: with this?

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Speaker 2: Obviously, round one's hard because pick one verse twelve's very different.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: It's like a first round pick in the real draft

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Speaker 1: versus a guy who went thirty second.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right.

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Speaker 1: Fans don't see the difference. So you're gonna still talk

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Speaker 1: about your first round pick. It's still your first round pick,

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Speaker 1: the right, right, he says. But I'm making my selections

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Speaker 1: in fantasy football off and asked myself in my drafting

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Speaker 1: this player at his ceiling. If the answer is yes,

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Speaker 1: i am, I generally aim for someone with more upside.

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Speaker 2: Makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Of course, all the players available in the first round

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Speaker 1: or so are likely at or near their ceiling. So

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Speaker 1: this is the opportunity to not overthink it and simply

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Speaker 1: take the best available player on the board, and so.

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Speaker 2: So real quick. I think what he means by that is,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure most understand but if you take you're.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna say I got one one. And but I

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Speaker 1: think Cede Lamb is gonna have just an awesome season

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Speaker 1: this year. I think he's going to be You're not

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Speaker 1: taking CD Lamb at number one one?

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Speaker 2: Well, of course. But what I mean where I was

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Speaker 2: gonna go with is if when you draft a player

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Speaker 2: at his ceiling, you don't draft George Pickens, so I

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Speaker 2: guess a good one. You don't take him going in

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Speaker 2: the third round, saying if he does everything perfect, he

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Speaker 2: can live up to a third round pick, right, you know,

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Speaker 2: as opposed to, boy, I'm getting him at seventy percent

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Speaker 2: of his ceiling where I'm paying for Himah, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean?

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Speaker 1: That was in our draft last year. For example, if

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Speaker 1: you remember one of the guys that we played against,

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Speaker 1: I think took pat Freyermouth in like the fourth round,

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Speaker 1: So he's gonna you know, he had seven touchdowns last

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Speaker 1: year and sixty catches.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's still too early, and it didn't kill you

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Speaker 2: but it's too early. Yeah, I mean right, you're taking

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Speaker 2: him at his ceiling. If he hits his peak, if

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Speaker 2: everything lines up perfectly, which it rarely does, that's yeah.

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Speaker 2: Then you got sticker peer. You're playing sticker price, right,

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Speaker 2: you know, so round one, Round one's tough. Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 2: or the best player available.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, So he's what he's saying here is

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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson is his number one guy.

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Speaker 2: I think he's mine too, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I think he's super safe, and yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: really safe.

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Speaker 2: I think there's three at the top, and that's Eckler, McCaffrey,

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Speaker 2: and Jefferson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, number two, Round two, this is where it gets

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Speaker 1: interesting for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Round two is Garrett Wilson.

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Speaker 2: I got no problem with that at all.

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Speaker 1: He says. Wilson is a player I don't want to

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Speaker 1: miss on out on in the twenty twenty three drafts.

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Speaker 1: He's certainly attainable where we're picking early to middle portion

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Speaker 2: So I was listening on a Silva's podcast on the

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Speaker 2: way up here, and I forget what they were talking about,

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Speaker 2: but it made my wheels turned because they were talking

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Speaker 2: about their favorite second rounders. Actually, and I've been having

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Speaker 2: a hard time sorting out Saint Brown, A lave, Wilson, Waddle,

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Speaker 2: Like I'd be happy with any but you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to pick between the most likely. Yeah, and I'm sitt

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Speaker 2: there thinking, like what I think, Maybe I should take

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Speaker 2: all these guys over Davante Adams, you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 2: I have Adams in the tier above, but I hate

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Speaker 2: this situation. I have Cup in the tier above, but

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Speaker 2: I have doubts about those guys. They're better football players,

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Speaker 2: are more accomplished. But should Wilson or Waddle be ahead

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Speaker 2: of Adams or Cup? I'm not going there yet. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The only problem out with Wattle, and I get it.

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Speaker 1: He put up the numbers last year, really the number

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Speaker 1: two guy in that offense, and that scares me a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, I don't know if I want my

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Speaker 1: the second round. Who is the second option on his

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Speaker 1: own team?

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Speaker 2: I said, I'm having a hard time sorting them out.

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Speaker 2: He's fourth of those four that I mentioned, And actually

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Speaker 2: him and DeVante Smith are really similar to me for

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Speaker 2: all those reasons the same And no, by the way,

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Speaker 2: they are college teammates but drafted in the same here.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Wilson, I mean Aaron Rodgers over the course

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Speaker 1: of his careers made a lot of guys a lot

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Speaker 1: of money.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Wilson was catching passes from not only will

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Speaker 2: Wilson quarterback, they had four quarterbacks last year. All of

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Speaker 2: them were horrendous. Yeah, and he still put up wide

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Speaker 2: receiver two numbers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, along with Wilson in the aforementioned DeVante Adams,

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Speaker 1: who he likes, A mon Ross, Saint Brown, Jalen Waddle

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Speaker 1: are terrific second round wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Turg Yeah, it's kind of I didn't know that's what

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Speaker 2: he wrote, but that's what we just talked through.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, round three. I don't know if I agree with

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Speaker 1: this one, he says, Travis ATN He's not for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he says. If you're not feeling ATN, I'm not. Josh Jacobs,

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Speaker 1: monitors hold out, Ramondre Stevenson, Najee Harris, Joe Mixon, Jamiir

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Speaker 1: Gibbs are the other guys to look at in that ring.

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Speaker 2: Ramandre is my favorite of those ones. Who is one

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Speaker 2: we were just talking about who'd he picked again?

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Speaker 1: Travis Atn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's this misnomer with Atn that he's a great receiver.

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Speaker 2: He has very bad hands. Yeah, I mean Andy's not

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Speaker 2: gonna be their goalline guy.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Other than that, it's great, right, I mean he's better

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Speaker 2: for real life than fantasy. To me, I think he's

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Speaker 2: vastly getting overrated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think so too.

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Speaker 2: That's why I've been grabbing, grabbing, grabbing tank bigsby a

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Speaker 2: lot late.

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Speaker 1: He said, Is noted the wide receiver group is strong

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Speaker 1: here as well, with the lave T Higgins, DK, Metcalf,

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Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, Deebo, Samuel was the highlights.

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Speaker 2: I like shopping in that neighborhood. Yeah, you can get

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Speaker 2: a Lave there or even Metcalf or several of those

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Speaker 2: names or safe and you're getting in the third round.

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Speaker 2: I like that better than going fishing for mixing or

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Speaker 2: somebody like that. Fishing for mixing, fishing for mixing. How

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Speaker 2: about the.

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Speaker 1: Round four Lamar Jackson or another quarterback in this tier

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Speaker 1: and in that tier he has Chack ex Burrow Fields Herbert.

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Speaker 2: So I agree with him totally half of it, because

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Speaker 2: if I can get if you told me in the league,

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Speaker 2: we're in Matt, you want Lamar for the you trade

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Speaker 2: your fourth round pick for Lamar right now? No clue

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Speaker 2: where I picked. Yes, I'll do that deal, but not

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Speaker 2: for those other ones. I think Lamar's in the tier above. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just think his wheels are tremendous. He said.

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Speaker 1: They all sport top three upside are viable targets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if Burrows top three upside.

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Speaker 1: I mean he could if everything and he has to

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Speaker 1: throw like forty.

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Speaker 2: Five touchdowns though, I mean just because he has a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, some of the other guys that you

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Speaker 1: might look there. If I decide to wait on a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Bresee Hall is his favorite target. Aaron Jones is another

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Speaker 1: running back that's on his radar. There, then you're looking

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Speaker 1: at Amari Cooper, Calvin Ridley, Jerry Judy, TJ. Hawkinson the

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Speaker 1: only tight end he would count.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so again, we play in the league together. If

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Speaker 2: I told you you can have any of those on

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks that he just mentioned right now for your fourth

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Speaker 2: round pick, would you do it. I'll take Calvin Ridley

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Speaker 2: as my fourth I say, Ridley is the only one

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about those other names I didn't do

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Speaker 2: jumping jacks about.

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Speaker 1: Or I'd take Aaron Jones as my fourth round pick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I forgot about him.

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Speaker 1: Those are the two like Aaron Jones and Ridley are

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Speaker 1: like yeah, okay, yeah, I'd swap of those guys too.

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Speaker 1: Round five Christian Watson, who I'm a believer. I am not.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the quarterback situation I think scares the

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Speaker 1: heck out of me.

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Speaker 2: The thing that if I was in your corner on

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Speaker 2: this one is their percentage of runs are going to

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Speaker 2: go up, The percentage of him scoring per target is

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Speaker 2: going to go down, down, down down. I mean it's

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Speaker 2: unattainable even if Rogers.

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Speaker 1: Over under or who has more touchdown passes this year,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers or the Packers Steelers? I agree.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. In these vestball leagues, Love and pick It go

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Speaker 2: like right next to each other, and you usually take

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Speaker 2: a third quarterback. I take Pickett every time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't take I'm not betting on Love.

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Speaker 2: I think Watson's a better player.

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Speaker 1: Like I'll take Aaron Jones. But I don't want Love.

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Speaker 1: I don't want Watson, I don't want any I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I want anybody else in that offense other

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Speaker 1: than the two running backs.

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Speaker 2: So I think he's a really good player.

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Speaker 1: Though that's great, I know what makes that different than

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Speaker 1: Devanta Adams. So Devanta Adams a better player, But you

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Speaker 1: don't like that quarterback situation.

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Speaker 2: Because I think Jimmy's gonna get hurt.

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Speaker 1: Then it's going to be so who has more touchdown

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Speaker 1: passes this year? Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Vegas, Vegas is last?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, And that's why I feel that strong, because

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Speaker 2: but Adams is the best of all those receivers.

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Speaker 1: Of course. I mean you're discounting Terry McLaurin because of

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Speaker 1: his quarterback situation, as is everybody else. But we're not

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Speaker 1: going to do that.

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Speaker 2: With Christian Watson. Maybe that's actually one of my fantasy

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Speaker 2: flaws because I'm I go get the player like I

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Speaker 2: end up with McLaurin a lot, and I have over

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Speaker 2: the years. Yeah, and I know his situation hurts him,

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Speaker 2: but I still think he's better, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And Watson might be that guy who has more touchdowns

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Speaker 1: this year George Pickens or Christian Watson.

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Speaker 2: Watson, but I don't feel super strong about it, just

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Speaker 2: because I think there's more target competition here. You know,

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Speaker 2: I think Watson's clearly the one who scores.

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Speaker 1: Let's put it this way, who scores more Fantasy points

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Speaker 1: this season? Deontay Johnson or Christian Watson.

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Speaker 2: Watson, That's what we're gonna argue about. That's the best

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Speaker 2: question yet, because you're definitely Deonta.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking Deontay because I think he's going to catch

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Speaker 1: a hundred balls again or close to it. Yeah, is

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Speaker 1: Watson going to come anywhere near that? So for him

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Speaker 1: for him to have more, for him to have more

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Speaker 1: points than Deontay Johnson in a PPR league, he is

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Speaker 1: going to have to catch three times as many touchdown

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Speaker 1: passes as Deontay Johnson. I have more, but Deontay. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Valid point? Absolutely valid point? His ceilings higher than Deontay's.

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Speaker 1: I'm not betting on Jordan Love.

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Speaker 1: You're saying you have that you draftedif drafts have been

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Speaker 2: Okay, here are.

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Speaker 1: The other guys I don't know. I like him better

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to these other names.

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Speaker 2: I mean. Akers is brutal neighbor.

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Speaker 2: He's James Connor this year. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take one. I'll take this guy his

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Speaker 2: I would too, but that's because I love Pierce. I

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Speaker 1: He also likes James Cook in that area.

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Speaker 2: That's scared.

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Speaker 1: I'm not buying that, right, he said.

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Speaker 2: All the reports are Cooks, the one in Buffalo, he said,

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Speaker 2: You talk about guys's not gonna have a lot of touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Either, He said. If I don't pick a go pick

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Speaker 1: wide receiver Deonte Johnson, who we were just talking about.

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Speaker 2: I have no problem with Deonta in the sixth round.

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Speaker 1: He said. I'm also monitoring the tight end options in

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Speaker 2: I have a hard time passing the pits and six.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, would you take him in the fifth?

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Speaker 2: Perhaps? Watson versus Pits is what you're gonna ask next

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Speaker 2: one about Watson versus Kittle. Kittle, Yeah, party loved Kittle,

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Speaker 1: I mean there was no offens or butts about it.

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Speaker 1: When Party came in. Yeah, the tight end is typically

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Speaker 2: a lot of touchdowns from Party.

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Speaker 1: In the middle rounds. Round seven target is Darren.

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Speaker 2: Waller, Okay, slightly discounted to me, was strongly thinking about

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Speaker 1: He said, if he doesn't do that, then Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 2: Options.

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Speaker 1: Is a range in that range if you're looking for

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Speaker 1: I mean Madison, I don't love the player, but he's

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Speaker 2: It's like him and Connor aren't the same to me. No, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Connor's in an awful situation and there may

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Speaker 1: Round eight, his target is trailing Burks.

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Speaker 2: Yuck. Yeah, I think the Hopkins thing really hurts him. Ye,

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Speaker 1: See, I would, he said, I could also look at

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Speaker 1: For me, I would take either one of those two.

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Speaker 1: I'll take either one of them over trailing Burks. It

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Speaker 2: That's hope. And for obviously like that's certainly buying, not

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Speaker 1: He also brings up these guys in terms of veterans, Courtland, Sutton,

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Speaker 2: I'm taking Coax over all those guys. Yeah, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think he's one of the best values in drafts right now.

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Speaker 1: Round nine, Antonio Gibson, I know you like that one.

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Speaker 2: back slash one third of the early down touch Yes, I.

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Speaker 1: Said, if he's looking at a quarterback or tight end,

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Speaker 2: In that round. You can win with those guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Be loaded out elsewhere in round ten is wild card,

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Speaker 1: he said. No one really jumps out of me. This

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Speaker 1: or grab another breakout player, he said. I often consider

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Speaker 1: Michael Thomas in this area. M I can't go there,

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Speaker 1: he said. I look at the samajp ryand Zach Charbonay.

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Speaker 2: to buy in this Javante news. Yeah, Charbonay's I'm in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, real bad.

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Speaker 2: I think I'd take Sharbona there.

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Speaker 1: Around eleven, Jacoby Myers or Odell Beckham Junior are the targets.

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Speaker 2: Myers is gonna catch a lot of balls.

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Speaker 1: They didn't pay him money to just know. Go run

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Speaker 1: Nicocollins or Chig and Kwonko are the options.

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Speaker 2: There's a chance. Did I just take the Chig path

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Speaker 2: in tight end World? You know you love you some chicks? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Round twelve Kenny Pickett, Wow.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually shocked he's at twelfth round ADP right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, don't mind me as I repeat the

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Speaker 1: as the case to draft Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: Here, I mean Lawrence is you could get him pretty

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Speaker 1: He said. Over the past five seasons, we've seen a

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Speaker 1: Like, would you rather have let's say, let's say you

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Speaker 2: Like he goes neck and neckt with Purdy.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm taking Picket over party all day long.

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Speaker 2: I am too good, guys, Picket versus two is a

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: He's gonna run for three three hundred plus yards this year.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's my money. And you get him so cheap,

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Speaker 2: and he keeps moving up every draft. Yeah, people are

439
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Speaker 2: catching on a little, but not enough. Yeah, he says this.

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Speaker 1: Clay says, if I don't need a quarterback, I'm looking

441
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Speaker 1: at recently paid tight end Cole Comet, who is top

442
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Speaker 1: ten upside but is available shockingly late. At wide receiver,

443
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Speaker 1: ron Dell Moore is a path to a hefty targets here,

444
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Speaker 1: with only Marquise Brown ahead of him on the depth chart.

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Speaker 2: He's sneaky that by that one. Yeah, especially in PPR,

446
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Speaker 2: because he'll catch him.

447
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna catch all those wider screens and things

448
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Speaker 1: of that nature.

449
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna be losing and people will let him

450
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Speaker 2: do it. Yeah, yeah, right, right right. He doesn't even

451
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Speaker 2: need a good quarterback for it.

452
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Speaker 1: Rounds thirteen and fourteen, he calls these high ceiling insurance

453
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Speaker 1: and breakout candidates. So this he feels strongly enough about

454
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Speaker 1: Picket that he's putting him ahead. So basically, he's saying

455
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Speaker 1: the picket is the best of the high ceiling insurance

456
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Speaker 1: breakout candidates.

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Speaker 2: Okay, like this is a good spot to take a

458
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Speaker 2: rookie running back. Yeah right, you know Spears or a

459
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Speaker 2: guy like that that's an injury away, or you know.

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Speaker 1: He's quarterback flyers, I generally generally select one quarterback, especially

461
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Speaker 1: since a lot of solid QB two options will go

462
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Speaker 1: undrafted in most formats the aforementioned pick it aside, I'm

463
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Speaker 1: not super interested in many late round flyers.

464
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Speaker 2: At quarterback this season. Yeah, I can see that.

465
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Speaker 1: I'm keeping an eye on a guy like Kyler Murray, however,

466
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Speaker 1: see when he's going to be back. That kind of

467
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Speaker 1: thing running back insurance. I won't go to in depth here,

468
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Speaker 1: as I already ranked my top ten insurance running backs

469
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Speaker 1: with headliners available this season, including Devil's Devin Singletary, Kendrey Miller,

470
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Speaker 1: Jylen Warren, Tank Bigsby, ty J Spears, Jerome.

471
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Speaker 2: Ford, Bigby's guy I grab around before this at least, yeah,

472
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Speaker 2: just to make sure I get them.

473
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Speaker 1: Jleb Warrens.

474
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, as an opportunity like a Kendre Miller.

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Speaker 1: I mean they'll have standalone value as well. Wide receiver

476
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Speaker 1: veterans that he's looking at here there he looks at

477
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Speaker 1: DJ Chark easily his favorite player in this category.

478
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Speaker 2: I kind of buy that one.

479
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Speaker 1: Perhaps he's Carolina's number one receiver and can be had

480
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Speaker 1: for one of the one of the final picks. Also

481
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Speaker 1: on his radar, Michael Gallup, kJ Osborne, Chase Claypow, Paris Campbell.

482
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Speaker 1: kJ Osborne had a very sneaky NA ninety targets last year.

483
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't realize that many either. Then his young

484
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 2: the wide receiver shop at that name, I know I

485
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Speaker 2: do too.

486
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Speaker 1: It's young wide receiver flyers. He's looking at Jonathan Mingo,

487
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Speaker 1: Jayden Reed. Those two are come to mind, Rashi Rice,

488
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: Marvin Mims, and Michael Wilson. Hearing a lot of good

489
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Speaker 1: stuff from Michael Wilson.

490
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Speaker 2: Yeah, not much competition in Arizona for people don't.

491
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Speaker 1: Know Jamison Williams, Taekwon Thornton, Alec Pierce, Isaiah Hodgins, John

492
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Speaker 1: maychie Wan, Del Robinson keep an eye on his ACL

493
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,479
Speaker 1: recovery and our guy Rashid Shaheed are among his favorite youngsters.

494
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Speaker 2: Now, some of these guys better than the receivers here

495
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Speaker 2: talking about before.

496
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then his tight end options late Dalton and

497
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Speaker 1: k Jalannie Woods and then Trey McBride.

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine with all those guys.

499
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Speaker 1: Yeah. That was Mike Clay's ideal draft. We're not going

500
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Speaker 1: to bore you with the kicker slashed the defense stuff here.

501
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: That was his Fantasy Football Ultimate draft board. Perfect picks

502
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: for every round, some good stuff there.

503
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Speaker 2: No, absolutely, yeah, And that's a good way to look

504
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 2: at it too, Like if I can get I forget

505
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Speaker 2: where Picket was going, but he's a great examples. We're

506
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Speaker 2: talking about Steelers. I mean, if he's going in round

507
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Speaker 2: twelve or thirteen and I'm gonna take him in eleven,

508
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Speaker 2: you're probably I mean, you can get him nine, nine,

509
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Speaker 2: ten drafts. Yeah, maybe not your Pittsburgh home leagues, I mean,

510
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Speaker 2: but from a national perspective, you know, somebody takes him

511
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Speaker 2: in the sixth rounds, right right right right? Yeah?

512
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Speaker 1: But yeah, So anyways, that was Mike Clay's Fantasy Football

513
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Speaker 1: Ultimate Draft board. He is Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lally.

514
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Speaker 1: That was our fantasy football focus for today, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a break. We are live at Saint Fencing College here.

516
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Speaker 1: The Steelers finished up practicing about an hour and a

517
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Speaker 1: half ago. They are off tomorrow, so don't come out

518
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Speaker 1: to watch practice tomorrow, but they'll be back out here

519
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Speaker 1: for sure on Tuesday and Wednesday, so we will have

520
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Speaker 1: shows that day as well. We're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more here a hour three of

522
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Speaker 1: our live ongoing coverage on ESPN nine to seventy and

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Right after this, man, we're back on

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Speaker 1: Dale ATLI. He is Matt Williams, and this is the

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Speaker 1: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy are

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Speaker 1: live coverage ongoing here from Steelers' training camp at Saint

527
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Speaker 1: Vincent College. And Matt, I just wanted to go around

528
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Speaker 1: the league now that we got some games played here

529
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Speaker 1: in the preseason, look at some of the roster moves.

530
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Speaker 2: That are all kind of these things.

531
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Speaker 1: And the Atlanta Falcons released Michael Walker. He was waived.

532
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Speaker 1: He had started twelve games for Atlanta last year, had

533
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Speaker 1: two interceptions and one hundred and seven tackles and got waived.

534
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Speaker 2: Wow, Yes, I don't know much about Michael Walker. I

535
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Speaker 2: didn't know he played that much, to be honest with you.

536
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Speaker 2: But the roster's coming around. Yeah, I think that's another

537
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Speaker 2: sign of it.

538
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Speaker 1: You know, Baltimore has well they call him Snoop Untley. Now.

539
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Speaker 1: I don't know when he changed his name.

540
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: Here was Tyler, Okay, he's now Snoop.

541
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Speaker 1: I got well, he made the Pro Bowl last year,

542
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: so you gotta have a cool nickname.

543
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Speaker 2: Right, what's Robbie Anderson's name now? Chosen?

544
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Speaker 1: Andrew chosen, And he's been chosen to have been.

545
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Speaker 2: Released several times?

546
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Speaker 1: Yes, uh yeah. But Huntley suffered. He had a minor

547
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Speaker 1: hamstring tweak late in that game. As I mentioned, he

548
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: came in and started and played late. He played the

549
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Speaker 1: He played basically the second half in that game.

550
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Speaker 2: I wonder if they don't think he fits the new

551
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Speaker 2: system at.

552
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Speaker 1: All, that could be that could be the problems. Right, Yeah,

553
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Speaker 1: he's not He's not so that. I mean, are they

554
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Speaker 1: really going to have Lamar backed up by Josh Johnson?

555
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Speaker 2: Boy, you're talking about being around the league. What a

556
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Speaker 2: career that this.

557
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Speaker 1: Would be his eighteenth team. Yeah, and he's still he's

558
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Speaker 1: still in three leagues fourteen teams. I think he's only

559
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Speaker 1: started like eight career games or nine career games.

560
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Speaker 2: Something like that, like deep into his thirties. Yeah, thirty seven,

561
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Speaker 2: thirty seven. Yeah, he might be the two.

562
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's would be a little concerned.

563
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Speaker 2: If I'm the Baltimore I didn't think about the backup

564
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Speaker 2: quarterback situation. If you're gonna throw and.

565
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Speaker 1: Right, he's not who I want's. That's why I you know,

566
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Speaker 1: when I talked about how I think the Ravens might

567
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Speaker 1: take a step backwards this year, it takes some time

568
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Speaker 1: when you're when you're completely redoing your system, you don't

569
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Speaker 1: do that, right. Yeah, you know, like all their offensive

570
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Speaker 1: linemen are the guys that they've been drafting, are built

571
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Speaker 1: to do the Lamar stuff, the run around, and they

572
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Speaker 1: we just want to you know, now all of a sudden,

573
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Speaker 1: you want, okay, well now we got to have guys

574
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Speaker 1: who can protect the passer. Well, they don't do.

575
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Speaker 2: That, and Cards a perfect example.

576
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Speaker 1: You know, Card does.

577
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Speaker 2: There's always collateral damage when you make a wholesale change

578
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Speaker 2: scheme wise, and it's hard to make up for it.

579
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Speaker 2: You're right. Uh.

580
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Speaker 1: Cleveland has placed linebacker Jacob Phillips with a torn pictorial muscle.

581
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Speaker 1: This is two years in a row for him on

582
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Speaker 1: injured reserve. He's done for the year.

583
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Speaker 2: They had two d line injuries too recently that were

584
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Speaker 2: pretty bad. Yeah, they're guys that were going to make

585
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Speaker 2: the team.

586
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Speaker 1: They signed running back Jordan Wilkins, in safety Nate Medor's

587
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Speaker 1: and also cut safety Bubba Bolden with an injury designation.

588
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: Yes, there's a lot of moves in Cleveland.

589
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Detroit has signed cornerback Colby Richardson. They released sener

590
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: Ross Pierscher, Piercebaker. No, nothing real big there. The Houston Texans,

591
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Speaker 1: they signed quarterback E. J. Perry. That's the kid out

592
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: of Dartmouth Rounds last year. Was really athletic quarterback.

593
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

594
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: Wide receiver Adam Humphries and still around. Yeah, Victor Bolden.

595
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Speaker 1: Humphreys has been around forever.

596
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: He's been around forever. I haven't heard that name in

597
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: well over year. Do you see Jimmy Graham's back in

598
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Speaker 2: the league?

599
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: Two I did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

601
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Speaker 1: Got They cut a Xavian Validae, he's a running back,

602
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: and then cornerback Kendall Sheffield was released.

603
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Speaker 2: Kendall Sheffield's played.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jacksonville bringing in Jadevin Clowney for a visit. Well,

605
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Speaker 1: he also visited Baltimore. So now you're starting to see

606
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Speaker 1: some movement on some of these veteran guys here. You're

607
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Speaker 1: gonna see more of this as we go on here.

608
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Speaker 2: Uh. They also they could use one more d lineman.

609
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they signed offensive lineman Bobby Evans and released tight

610
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: end or I guess tight end Sammy Reyis was placed

611
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Speaker 1: on the reserve retired list Jdevin Clowney in Jacksonville.

612
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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know if he's the best influence on

613
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: your two young edge guys.

614
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's a move I want

615
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: to make. Yeah, just lock Baltimore. I don't know it's

616
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: a good move for Baltimore.

617
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Speaker 2: Even for the same reason, the same reason I also

618
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Speaker 2: think of Clowney, which would help the Ravens more than

619
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Speaker 2: the Jags. He'll bump inside on third and nine and

620
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: those type of things. But I mean, this doesn't come

621
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Speaker 2: He's a real weird edge guy. He's not a speedball

622
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: off the edge at all. He's nothing like O Way.

623
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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, that doesn't move the needle for either

624
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: team though.

625
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: No, I mean people look at those like their playoff teams.

626
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Speaker 2: And I don't think Adam Clowney is like well the top.

627
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

628
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: Frankly, if I were the Jags, I would be more

629
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Speaker 2: into corner like they have. Campbell is a good player,

630
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: the second round pick out of Georgia a couple of

631
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: years ago, and then the rest of their corners are

632
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: no names. I think that's the more concerning area.

633
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: In Kansas City, cornerback Nick Jones fractured multiple fingers during

634
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: and Sundays went over the Saints. Andy Reid has no

635
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: timeline for Jones's return.

636
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: Wonder if I got stuck in a face, stepped on

637
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: or something something bad that could have been a yucky day.

638
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah that hurts.

639
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Raiders they released defensive tackle Kyle Peko also

640
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: placed two guys on injury reserve. It's wide receiver DJ

641
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: Turner and linebacker Darius Harris.

642
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: No big names there but Peckos and nose.

643
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah this is The Dolphins had some injuries coming out

644
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: of their game. Wide receiver Braxton Barrios will miss a

645
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: few days with forehead stitches out. That hurts. This one

646
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: is a big deal for them, though. Cornerback Cam Smith

647
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: avoided a long term shoulder injury. Who added the timeline

648
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: is a little gray for his return. He could missed

649
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: two weeks a rookie cornerback, their first round pick. They're

650
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Speaker 1: kind of counting on him with Ramsey out, and he's

651
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: gonna miss two weeks of camp now.

652
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like they had four legit corners and

653
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: now they have two all So.

654
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, that's troublesome for that.

655
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Speaker 2: I think he was getting a thrust in the mix

656
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Speaker 2: in a big way and they need him as many

657
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Speaker 2: reps he can get.

658
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

659
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

660
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Speaker 1: They signed Kiki Kokte and defensive back Jamal Perry. They

661
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Speaker 1: released wide receiver Freddie Swain and quarterback cornerback Mark Gilbert,

662
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: who had time here with the Steelers last year.

663
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Speaker 2: No, yeah, remember that name. Haven't thought abou him for

664
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Speaker 2: a while.

665
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's still kicking around thee. The Vikings have signed

666
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Speaker 1: a veteran special teamer, Tanner Vajeo.

667
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: He's he's considered yeah, core special team.

668
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a linebacker, corese special teamer. Running Back Kendre

669
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Speaker 1: Miller with the Saints suffered a knee sprain during Sunday's

670
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: loss to the Chiefs that left the game early.

671
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Speaker 2: That game happened this afternoon was like a noon gamers something. Yeah,

672
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: so that's that's a wow. Hunt. There were reports that

673
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: Hunt signed there and then I don't think he really

674
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: did not. Yeah, Kamar and now is missing time. I mean,

675
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: is Jamal Williams the clear starter in week one if

676
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: Miller misses time? Probably, yes, SOE like that.

677
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: Was they drafted Kendrey Miller to kind of be.

678
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: There, and they didn't know kamaras Spens was. They knew

679
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: something was comp So he's a third round pick on

680
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: running back. Yeah, you think there's a hole there, right.

681
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: And it looks like he may be out for a while.

682
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: Okay that hurts.

683
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so mentioned. The Steelers released uh Chippell Chappelle Russell,

684
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: the linebacker got hurt in the Friday Night's preseason game.

685
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: He was waived with an injury designation. They signed linebacker

686
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Speaker 1: Forrest Ryan, who was with the team look for uh.

687
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay has signed wide receiver Sefist Johnson. He's been

688
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: around in the league a little bit. They released defensive

689
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Speaker 1: back Deron Low.

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00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Don't not needle movers obviously.

691
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Uh washing defensive end Chase Young with a stinger,

692
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: did not practice fully on Sunday. Ron Rivera. Telling reporters

693
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: that Chase Young should be fine doesn't help you. I've

694
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: seen people talking about him as a potential preseason trade.

695
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: They finally stopped talking about him being potentially traded to

696
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: the Steelers. That's ridiculous. Fiderium mathis with a calf injury.

697
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: Did not practice fully on Sunday as well. Okay, he

698
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: was a second day pick for those guys. Yeah, so

699
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: depth guy for them, though. Yeah, the Chase Young is

700
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: hard to count on it anymore.

701
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Speaker 2: That's getting to be a bit of an issue. Yeah,

702
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: it is.

703
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Speaker 1: I just I don't know, looking here.

704
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Speaker 2: How many more games are left on the slate. I

705
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: think there is there one tonight. That's why I asked

706
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Speaker 2: I had I'd meant to look at the schedule this

707
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: morning and I'm kind of out of the loop, but uh,

708
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: that's probably a Monday night, or they've already moved us

709
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Speaker 2: on to week one.

710
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Speaker 1: Okay, so week one and I'm looking here, there is

711
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Speaker 1: a well forty nine Ers and Raiders are playing right now.

712
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: They are at the half, so that would be the

713
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Speaker 1: last game.

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Speaker 2: There's not a night game, then that's the last game

715
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Speaker 2: a week.

716
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Speaker 1: Yeah, looking ahead the week preseason week three. You've got

717
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: the Browns kicking things off on Thursday at the Eagles.

718
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: That'll be a good one to watch. Friday is Panthers

719
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: at Giants and then Bengals at Falcons, and then of course,

720
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: moving on to Saturday, a whole slate of games here.

721
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: You got Jaguars at Lions, Dolphins at Texans, Bills at Steelers,

722
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: Bears at Colts, Buccaneers are at the Jets, the Patriots

723
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: are at the Packers, Titans at Vikings, Chiefs at Cardinals,

724
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: Broncos at forty nine Ers, Raiders are at the Rams,

725
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: Cowboys at Seahawks, and then Sunday Monday.

726
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: Night game this week as well. Monday night this week.

727
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: Sunday is Saints at Chargers, and then Monday night's game

728
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Speaker 1: Baltimore is at Washington.

729
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Speaker 2: I'm definitely watching that and much bunch of those of course.

730
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, so some interesting, and you probably see a

731
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: few more starters.

732
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: Heavier dosage of starters, and then Week three is gonna

733
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: be thin.

734
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Speaker 1: Junk thin, Yeah, yeah, I would think that's when basically

735
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: all the the backups play. But yeah, I just you know,

736
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: looking around the league here, this is that time of

737
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: year when you start to see some veteran movement on

738
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: some guys.

739
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Clowney. We mentioned Kareem Hunt. I wonder if Dalvin Cook.

740
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: I'm kind of I'm surprised. He's one I thought would

741
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 2: have a home by now.

742
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. He may be just waiting to see

743
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: if somebody has a running back injury that I.

744
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: Wonder if he has multiple offers and can pick for it.

745
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 2: Probably maybe, because I don't know that Fournat or Zeke would.

746
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you know, a team like the Saint says,

747
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna be missing.

748
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: If Miller's out out for a while, Yeah, right right,

749
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: that would make some sense.

750
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: The Ravens also claimed cornerback Ty Hayes off of waivers.

751
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: They're they're searching, they are. I don't know if he's

752
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: a nickel or not, but they could use a nickel

753
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: for to get waved.

754
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: By the Lions. He spent most of the offseason with

755
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots after playing two games for them last season.

756
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: Played five games for the Panthers in twenty twenty two,

757
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: six appearances over the course of his career into two

758
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: previous two seasons with the Dolphins, Vikings, Jaguars. There's their

759
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: corners right now, Marlon Humphrey, Rocky a Sin Yeah, Jalen

760
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: More are more Davis to Mario de Marion, Williams, Arthur Malett,

761
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: Kevin Seymour yuck.

762
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean that is that's a bad cornerback. That's

763
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: a bad cornerback room. And I mean ro Kwan's a star.

764
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 2: I know they're really excited about Hamilton, and their safeties

765
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: in general are really good. But I don't think Queen's

766
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: a star. I think the defensive line is way more

767
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: questions and answers because they're the Ravens and everybody.

768
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: Gives them a pass on.

769
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: I think most assuming that they're going to make it

770
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Speaker 2: be a good defense because they usually are. The Steelers

771
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: usually are too, you know. I mean, like there's teams

772
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: that have have a reputation toughness defense harbobed and I

773
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: think their defense is going to be like bottom ten. Yeah,

774
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: it's lasting the division for me.

775
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: I think part of that's there's a reason why they've

776
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: decided to open up the offense a little bit. I

777
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: think they realized that as well, we're we're not going

778
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: to win seventeen to sixteen anymore. Counting our kicker, you know,

779
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: if our defense isn't as good, we can't trade sevens for.

780
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: Threes, right. And what's crazy is they've had so many

781
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: picks in the last five years or so, they haven't

782
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: drafted well. I mean, no one seems to call them

783
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 2: out on that, but they have not drafted well.

784
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do a good job of the pr stuff.

785
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, especially as many picks as they've had,

786
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: you gotta have those holes should be filled.

787
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: They should be, but they are not.

788
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: They're not.

789
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm picking them for fourth in the division. I am.

790
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: I can be convinced.

791
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think Cleveland is better. I know

792
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: what Jim Schwartz is is a defensive coordinator.

793
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, I think the Browns are better.

794
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, much depends on Deshaun Watson. But okay,

795
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: I think Baltimore's got way more question marks than any

796
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: other team in the division. And nobody's talking about it.

797
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, No one's talking about the defense. And you're right

798
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: about the whole Huge changes on offense usually mean to

799
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: step back before you take two forward. Maybe to forward

800
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: it never comes, but maybe it takes till week four,

801
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: Maybe it takes till twenty twenty four. You know, what

802
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: I mean, right, we just don't know. Yeah, it's a

803
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: little bit up in the air.

804
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: Anyway, we're gonna get to a break. He is Matt Williamson.

805
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

806
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine to seventy are

807
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: live ongoing coverage from Steelers' training camp here at Saint

808
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: Vincent College. The Steelers practicing earlier today and getting through that.

809
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: I didn't see any major injuries.

810
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: Or anything out there. Nothing really no negative that I saw.

811
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you like to see that. But we're going

812
00:37:52,040 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: to be back with more right after this. Welcome back.

813
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: I am Dale Alli. He is Matt Williams, and this

814
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Speaker 1: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine

815
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Speaker 1: seventy are live ongoing coverage from Steelers' training camp here

816
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: at Saint Vincent College. And Matt just to go over

817
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that happened in practice today. Rookie

818
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: defensive lineman Keanu Benton, who was injured against the Buccaneers,

819
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: did not practice Sunday, but he was on the field

820
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: wearing his jersey. Didn't have any rapper or boot or

821
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: anything on his injured ankle.

822
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: That's right, and he participated in them from light warm ups. Great. Yeah,

823
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: so that was I feared worse. I mean, I didn't

824
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: think he was out for the year or anything, but

825
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 2: just watching the game, I was like, oh, no, that's

826
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: one of the guys you really want to see out there.

827
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Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't miss extended times. Yeah, absolutely, so

828
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: good good for him, good news. Yeah.

829
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: Earlier in practice we saw the defense win seven shots.

830
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: Looked like four to three by my count. Kenny Pickett

831
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: and the first team offense went one for four with

832
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: the only the only win being Anthony mcfarr a little

833
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: inside handoff.

834
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: I talked, your hard to defend and yeah, technically ground in.

835
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: A short in that short area like that. I did

836
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: talk to McFarland after the game, uh, and he had

837
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: a couple of inside runs in the game, and he

838
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: said he was more excited about those what he called,

839
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: he called him the grimy runs because opposed to one

840
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: he's like everybody knows I.

841
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: Can bounce stuff to the yeah and all that. You

842
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 2: gotta do those put your head.

843
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: Down and being able to get three yards when there's

844
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: three yards there, that's a little different.

845
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: That's a little different, and I think he's capable. I mean,

846
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 2: I don't think he's just a scat back.

847
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. He's not dree Archer. No, right,

848
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: right right.

849
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: I think there's a misconception because he's smaller. But he's

850
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: not small.

851
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: No, he's I mean he's twenty pounds heavier than dree Archer. Yes, yeah,

852
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: dree Archer is more like Calvin Austin.

853
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean dree Archer was too small.

854
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: I've seen that. I've seen people make that comparison.

855
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: No, they're not.

856
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: I've seen it a lot. I just I just it's

857
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: not true.

858
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: No. I mean, if catastrophe struck, McFarlane could be your

859
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: every down back for a game, Yeah, he gets you.

860
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd be fine. In fact, I saw him on

861
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: one player can recall he stepped in he was in

862
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: there on a third down and put his head in

863
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: there and picked up a blitzer and they were able

864
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: to get the pass off. Was it the best job

865
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: of blitz pick up?

866
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: No? No, but he did it. And yeah, yeah, this

867
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: guy didn't make the play otherwise, the guy who makes

868
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: a free run to the quarterback and he's making progress.

869
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. The two minute offense was what they closed out

870
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Speaker 1: practice with the offense won both of those, so the

871
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: defense won seven shots. The offense scored twice in that

872
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: two minute situation, with Kenny Pickett finding Alan Robinson for

873
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: a diving catch in the ends a really nice to

874
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: throw him into a window there, threw it low where

875
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: only Alan Robinson can go get it, and it was

876
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: a great catch. It was real hands catch, you know,

877
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: the arms extended out away from his body and didn't

878
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: think he was going to catch it. And then he

879
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: just came flying in there.

880
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: And okay, Robinson looked good. I was a little worried

881
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: that he was gonna be sluggish, you know on the

882
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: back nine to be kind, you know, maybe even more

883
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: in his career gets a case. And what's nice is

884
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: if Austin emerges too, even in eleven. I mean, if

885
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 2: he's your third receiver, he may be real fresh for

886
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 2: thirty forty snaps a game, not you know, not a ton.

887
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson is still just twenty nine years old, twenty

888
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: nine and this is year ten for him. Okay, he's

889
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: another one of those guys that came into the leagues.

890
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: You're really young.

891
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know as he was that young, yes,

892
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: and he came out.

893
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: He'll turn thirty at some point during the season, but still.

894
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: Didn't red shirt in three years independse say came and

895
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: a guy that has a pedigree. Yeah, No, he's a

896
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: nice pickup, I know, help his team.

897
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then mitchter Bisky getting his opportunity added he'd got

898
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: her old Schefski three times.

899
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 2: Yeah he did. Huh. And Oceewfsky just keeps making plays.

900
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: He's a tough guy to cut. Yeah. I don't know

901
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: if there's room for him or not. I mean I

902
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: don't think he'd be on my fifty three break this minute,

903
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: but you understand why he would be.

904
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then he finished that off with a pass

905
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: to Darnell Washington from three yards out. I think I

906
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: think Washington is going to be a weapon down inside

907
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: the five this year.

908
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: Yep, we just thought Robinson. Robinson and Washington. I mean

909
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: these are two new editions. Middle of the field, red

910
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: zone where did they struggle most passing the football? You know,

911
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: like teams know this stuff and they do stuff about it.

912
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: They do things about it. Ye, right, James Pierre had

913
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: an interception today almost.

914
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 2: Just almost too.

915
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: Basically, Yeah, Yeah, I saw Madre a good game too.

916
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: Maudre Harper had a real nice tackle when they were

917
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: doing the inside run there in the last final player.

918
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: That they did.

919
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: He shot out of the backfield. It made a nice

920
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: play there.

921
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: I don't know enough about him. I need to do

922
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 2: a little more work on him too.

923
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: We also saw Making Fitzpatrick and Demonte Kaz out there

924
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: for the first time together.

925
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: Great to see, which is really good to see. You

926
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: made a note. I think we don't think we were

927
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: on the air, but Patrick Peterson played some safety today.

928
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: They shut off that that three safety. Technically, that's what

929
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 1: it is because Peterson starts, they're in the basically they're

930
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: they're in a a dime and Peterson starts lined up

931
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: next to the linebacker. But at the snap of the ball,

932
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: he's dropping deep to high. Yeah right, Really it looked

933
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: like it was three three.

934
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 2: Deep it maybe, but he was in a third level

935
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: of the defense.

936
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: You might be right, and you know that frees you up.

937
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: I mean, you got three guys with ball skills with

938
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: their eyes on the quarterba I Fitzpatrick's back there as well,

939
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: and Kate k Z. These are three guys that know.

940
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 2: How to make a lot of interceptions.

941
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: Between the three of those Yeah, especially by today's standards.

942
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: Right, and Minca and Peterson were the top of the

943
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: league last year, and KZ is always taking the ball

944
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: away throughout any every stop he's been.

945
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I mean, I think that's what you're looking

946
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: for now, those guys with their eyes on the quarterback

947
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: and they're going to pick some balls off.

948
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: I tend to agree, especially coupled with that pass rush

949
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: without question.

950
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh. Nate Herbig had a shoulder injury during practice today.

951
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin's saying he's got going to be evaluated. Keanu

952
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: bent and we mentioned with the ankle injury. Mike Tomlan

953
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 1: described him.

954
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 2: As day to day.

955
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes. I would expect him to

956
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: probably be back.

957
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if he plays against the Bills.

958
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: But maybe sometimes the young guys get over that pretty quickly.

959
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 2: They're not, you think the same as your order plays

960
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: against the Bills. Oh, they're definitely not the same as

961
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: you as. But yeah, yeah.

962
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: Porter, I think you know he hurt that hamstring late

963
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: in practice on what they was that now Wednesday last.

964
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: Week, and yeah, I think you're right.

965
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: I saw as somebody out there, you know, it's Mike

966
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: Tomlin beating these guys up. Hamstring has nothing to do

967
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: with that, folks, This is not or anything like that.

968
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: It's just that's hamstring injuries happened the guys who run

969
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: a lot.

970
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not uncommon in any camp around the country.

971
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, the question is how severe is it? Well, as

972
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 1: you mentioned, you saw him out here signing autographs and stuff.

973
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 2: Can't he was catching tennis balls after after two. I mean,

974
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 2: he can't be too far away.

975
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: No, I mean maybe just tightened up on him. Could

976
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 1: be a you know, weather related.

977
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: Maybe the heat is I don't known thyk about hamstring injuries,

978
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: but it's extreme heat or on the body, I mean

979
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: in terms of dehydration, and you know, I don't know.

980
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: Cam Hayward was not here today. He is dealing with

981
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: an illness, so they sent him home.

982
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 2: Now it makes sense price tomorrow too.

983
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 1: That could have been Cam going coach a little cough

984
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: coming back from that trip down the Tampa. Yeah, I

985
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: just Tuesday. They stay home today and I'll be back

986
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: on Tuesday.

987
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: See the fam and maybe do something that the Hayward.

988
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: Suggesting that Cam Hayward would do.

989
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: That, right, but he might also not have one hundred

990
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: and six fever.

991
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: But wouldn't you know, wouldn't blame him one bit? There

992
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: again opens up more.

993
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 2: I think about it, like this coach should have suggested it, like, yeah,

994
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,959
Speaker 2: get off the plane, I'll see a Tuesday. And maybe

995
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: he did.

996
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: Maybe not saying that happened, right, you know, that would

997
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: be wouldn't be the first time something like that has

998
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: occurred in the history of the world. But it gives

999
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: you an opportunity. Uh, you know, we were watching those

1000
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: one on ones. You're seeing Fahoko out there, you're seeing Yeah,

1001
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: the roats you're seeing you know, guys like that.

1002
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 2: Adams had a nice practice.

1003
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: You know, you're really gonna have to make a decision

1004
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,959
Speaker 1: with some of these guys in a few weeks here.

1005
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 1: They're gonna be cuting a good player.

1006
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: They're gonna be kind of a good player, like we've

1007
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: we've mentioned, you know, dots and being a potential trade candidate.

1008
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: Like I don't know you could trade any of those

1009
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: guys either. I'm not sure what you'd get for. You

1010
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 2: don't want to. You're not gonnaet much for louder Milk.

1011
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that the guys you signed.

1012
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: Get after for a guy like Arman Watts.

1013
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: Maybe team minutes the seventh.

1014
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 1: If anything, you're going to get a conditional pick.

1015
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: Probably, Yeah, I mean you're probably just gonna have to

1016
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: let them go somebody and be sad about.

1017
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: It unless you have something where you can do a

1018
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: swap of a player that somebody else give me a

1019
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: safety for a D lineman, yeah or whatever. Yeah, you

1020
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: know we're short on a cornerback here, can you know

1021
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: you make that deal. They've done that in the past,

1022
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: But they've done such a good job of improving their

1023
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: depth this offseason that I don't see any glaring needs.

1024
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: I don't either. I mean, unfortunately, there will be an

1025
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 2: injury or two between now and cut down time. Yeah,

1026
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: if anything, I would be a d back right of

1027
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: some sort. I don't know, we're I don't But even

1028
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: like Bark, who's been pretty good. Yeah, I mean Audrey Harper,

1029
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: who those guys have been good. They've been good. Yeah.

1030
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: So it'll be fun, absolutely, But that's going to do

1031
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: it for our show today here live from Saint Vincent

1032
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: College on ESPN nine seventy and Steelers Nation Radio. No

1033
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,480
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1034
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: and I will be back Tuesday. Of course, you can

1035
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,160
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1036
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1037
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,240
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1039
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Speaker 1: and Starks bringing you their show. Then at noon, Wesley

1040
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1041
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,960
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1042
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,520
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