1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: special guests, entrepreneur of Wang's in Things, a tray you 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Rothman is in the building. Here we go, There we go. 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: I got it right right. We had to cut that 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: last one. 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: We had to cut. We had to get a tray. 8 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: You Rothman is in the building. And just for just 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: a little backstory before we get into the interview, guys, 10 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: he's the owner of Wangs and Things in Venice Beach. 11 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite go to spots. If 12 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: you know me, you know that the weekends are solely 13 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: dedicated to living like a four year old. But we 14 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: got to add some adulting fun into it, so WANs 15 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: and Things is a part of that. I come there 16 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: very often. I have a punch guard, you know, and 17 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 1: I bring a lot of people. I usually introduce somebody 18 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: to the spot. Even though the guy that hands out 19 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: the samples he does an amazing job at thank you. 20 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's awesome. 21 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: He does a great job. And we don't even use 22 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: the punch card anymore. We have we're all digital now, 23 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: so you put you putting a number and it's like 24 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: using the punch cards, so it keeps track of your orders. 25 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:21,279 Speaker 1: And yeah, and just so you guys know, my favorite 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: thing to order is the well it's it's pretty much everything. 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: The secret I think to what makes wings and things 28 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: so special for all y'all wondering what kind of food 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: it is, Like wings, it's potato, It's shrimp. 30 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: Shrimp sha it pole Boys. 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 3: I'm from the South, so a lot of the food 32 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: is originated from the South, so the Pole Boys. There's 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: a lot of vegans and vegetarians in this area, so 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: we had to create some foods that cater to them, 35 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: like the mushroom sandwich, califlower sandwich. 36 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: You haven't seen that yet. 37 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I need to do a review of 38 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: all the different I stick to what I know, like 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: the potato. You know what it is. It's whatever he 40 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: hands out in the samples. Yes, that's what I get. 41 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So maybe. 42 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: I need to explore outside there it is there. 43 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: It is people when they typically see this, get the 44 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: samples outside. That's what they want. Oh, let me get 45 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: what I had out there. But when you get to 46 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: then when you get to the front of our establishment, 47 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: you know, our whole menu is out in the front. 48 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: So there's so many other options for people to choose. 49 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I see them too. I don't know why 50 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: that so. So just so you guys know, what makes 51 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: I think makes it special is the sauce is finger 52 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: looking good? And then I have never met someone that 53 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: has mastered frying as well as you. 54 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: Oh wow, because that's big. I think that I haven't. 55 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: Been doing this for two years now. Really keep in 56 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: mind that they never really cooked ever, so not at all. 57 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: I think the way he fries is simply fantastic. I 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: think about it sometimes I'm like, damn, how does he 59 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: master it so well? I don't know if you've timed 60 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: it how you got it to weigh three? Interesting? 61 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: My friars stay at three for all of my foods, 62 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: and when I see it has that right Chris, That 63 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: just it's side of there. 64 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: Oh you know, yeah, all right, So just and I 65 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: wanted you guys just to hear from me, you know 66 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: what it is I like about the restaurant. But I 67 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: was very excited when Atrey you hit me up in 68 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: the DMS because we had talked. I said, man, you know, 69 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: should come on the show. And the follow up game 70 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: was real and yes, I'm very excited to have you 71 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: and know your backstory. Did not know two years. But 72 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: we're about to get into it. But before we get 73 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: into your story, I need to know what you are 74 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: going to have me eating today as your broke dish. 75 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: M okay, my broke dish. 76 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: When she was like, what did you eat while you 77 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: were broke, had to think of the time when I 78 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: was broke and on the struggle and I was in jail, 79 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: you know, and when you're in jail, you don't have 80 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: too many options when it comes to food, you know. 81 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: You know, I was eating typically what they what they 82 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: served at lunch, you know. But then when you get 83 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: that commentsary list and you get to pick out what 84 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: you want. I never dabbled with rice paper. 85 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, what is up with this? You know, so 86 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,839 Speaker 2: you know you're in jail, you have a lot of time, 87 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: so let's figure this out. 88 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: So I came up with this rice paper startine veggie roll. 89 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: Okay. 90 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: I made it for myself. First, people walk by, what 91 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: are you making? 92 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: Hey? 93 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 3: Sit down, see if you like it. And then it 94 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: turned into a every Thursday a tray. You's making the 95 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: rice paper meal. 96 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: Oh so did you start to like cooking when you 97 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: were in jail, well, being creative. 98 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: Well, I've always been into, you know, just putting a 99 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: meal together, typically for myself or my guest. You know, 100 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: being in you know, being locked away, you know, it 101 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: only heightens, you know, your creativeness, especially when you're so 102 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: limited to Hey, what can I put together? I would 103 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: make my meals for myself and when you know, friends 104 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: walked by, what are you making? I don't even know. 105 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: I'm just putting it together, you know. That was really 106 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: my answer. But it tasted very good, you know. So 107 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: it turned out with me to a whole group of 108 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: ten people every Thursday. You know, they would all bring 109 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: their own ingredients. 110 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: Oh oh, and it was. 111 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: Like a like a little potluck, you know for the 112 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 3: sardines and veggie roll. 113 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: Now, when people think of jail, I e me, guys, 114 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not. I've only been to jail for 115 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: like twenty four hours, so my experience is very limited. 116 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: But you don't think of jail as a place where 117 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: you can like pick rice paper as well. 118 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: I was at a camp. I was at a camp. 119 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: A camp is where they typically send like if the. 120 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: Mayor goes to jail. 121 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: Oh, is it like like a yeah, the FED, that's 122 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: like the nice jail, right. 123 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, they had pool tables there. I learned how to 124 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: shoot pul Oh. I'm a pull shark now, you know, 125 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: because where you have nothing but time, you know, hey, 126 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 3: let me perfect this, you know. So it was a 127 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: place where, you know, it was kind of like bunk style, 128 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: you know, open area. If you cause any type of 129 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 3: ruckus in there, they'll send you to a different level 130 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: to where you won't have as much leniency. You know, 131 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: there was there was it like you could walk off 132 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: and leave the whole facility. It wasn't it wasn't gated. 133 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: So at a camp like literally you have they call 134 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: them walk offs, you know, and they they broadcast them 135 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: on the news at night. Hey, this inmate has walked off, 136 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 3: you know, like yeah, you know it's but you don't 137 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: want to mess up here because if you go there, 138 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: then you're typically you only have at least like three 139 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 3: five to five years and under left on your sentence. 140 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 3: So some people were there for twenty years and then 141 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: they're praying that they could get to a camp, because 142 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: you get to a camp, it's just you know, an easy, 143 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: easy glide through for the rest of your sentence. 144 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: So and I'd imagine it's a good semi transition back 145 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: to life. 146 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, absolutely, because you have opportunities to have a 147 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 3: job outside of jail, you know, so like you. 148 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: Can go and then come back and you just sleep 149 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: there and. 150 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 3: If you go come back, get a furlough and you know, 151 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: go see your family, that type of thing. I was 152 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: sentenced to a year and a half. Excuse me, a 153 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: year and a day. 154 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: A year and a day. 155 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: Did it feel like a year and a day? 156 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: It felt like a year and a day because when 157 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: when they sentenced you to a year and a day, 158 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: You're you're supposed to go home in like six months. 159 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: But when the six month hit, I was supposed to 160 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: go and go to my father's for the rest of 161 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: my term in Mississippi. 162 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: Uh. 163 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: And then when they called me in for that six 164 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: that six month hit, they called me into the office 165 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: and said that my dad denied me from going out there. 166 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: Then it felt like a year and a day because 167 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: I had to stay the whole year and a day. 168 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, that year in a day was an 169 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: actual year in a day. 170 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: Okay, now, and now I'm just curious. 171 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: Yes, well, I got denied no, what what did you do? 172 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: What I do? You know? 173 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: So I used to model back in the day, like 174 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: in my twenties, you know. And this was all in 175 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: my twenties, you know. And I had this gig in 176 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: New York and it was the next day gig. And 177 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: I had a friend that was always flying this guy everywhere. 178 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: I'm on playing them all bro like I need to 179 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: fly to New York tomorrow for this gig. And he 180 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: connects me with this. 181 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: Guy and he books me on a flight first class 182 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: all the way to New York next day. 183 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: Like literally, I was clutch. It was super clutch. It was. 184 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: It was so clutch. 185 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: When I got back, I was like, hey, like give me, 186 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: like is it okay? If I use him? Like can 187 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 3: I call him for you know, my next flight? And 188 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: my friends like to fly to you know. So I 189 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: turned into like a travel agent, you know, because I 190 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: would let my friends know, hey, if you want to fly, 191 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: And his price was amazing. It was like to me, 192 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: it was like one hundred dollars round trip. 193 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: For it was right. So so I was charging people. 194 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: I would look up their flight information and be like, oh, 195 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: your flight is five hundred Okay, it's gonna be two 196 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: fifty for you whatever, it's gonna be half, you know. 197 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: And where was I was? 198 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: I was you could call me green, right, because I'm 199 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: just thinking this guy is just booking, because he would 200 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: just send me the flight information. 201 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: I send it to my people and they go on 202 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: their way. 203 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: Only only a little bit. 204 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: I was at my top until until right one of 205 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: my friends called me booked them a flight and he's like, hey, 206 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 3: they said the credit card didn't go through with this flight. 207 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: And I'm like, hold on, let me call this guy 208 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: and tell them, Hey, what's happening. 209 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: I called him. 210 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, my friend is stuck at the airport. 211 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: They said the credit card didn't go through. He's I 212 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: don't worry, I'll rebook him. Rebooked them, and he was 213 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: on the next flight out right. But at that point, 214 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, this guy is using credit cards to 215 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 3: book people on flights, you know. And I knew at 216 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: that point this this is like three months into I'm so. 217 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: Dumb because it took me a minute to catch up. Yeah, 218 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: so basically he was paying for. 219 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: He was paying for the flight, but with other people's 220 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: credit cards. Yes, So I figured this out, and I 221 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 3: remember It's funny how God works really in your life 222 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: and he gives you your decisions and you got to 223 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: make him. Right then, i was sitting on the curb 224 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 3: outside and I'm like, wow, okay, so he's using people's 225 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: credit cards to book people's flights. I'm like something like this. 226 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 3: I feel like I could get like five years for 227 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: doing something like this. Like this was a thought in 228 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: my head right and I'm like, I have my decision 229 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 3: to stop right then, or you know, keep going and 230 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: taking mind like I'm modeling at this time, like I'm 231 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 3: in front of people's. 232 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 2: Faces, I'm behind it can. 233 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was booking modeling gigs, but those gigs 234 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 3: were just paying my cell phone bill, you know what 235 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: I'm saying. But I'm a flight I'm a flight agent 236 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: right now. Like I'm like I'm getting I mean hints. 237 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: Like as soon as I was like five years for 238 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: something like this, I got a text message from one 239 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: of my people that wanted to fly. 240 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is the test. This is the test. 241 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 3: I'm looking at like three hundred dollars right here or 242 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 3: just completely stop. And I was like I'm taking this 243 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 3: three hundred, you know, And I kept going and I 244 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: did it for like two more years. I'm telling you, 245 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: like that. 246 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: Where was where was the look that they were hitting me? 247 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: And I'm like, look, I got you. 248 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: I'm hitting up this other guy because I'm not really 249 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 3: I'm not booking, I'm never I'm never touching anything. 250 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: You're like a degree away from separation. Yes, I'm just 251 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: curious how your brain just magically thought like, hey, I 252 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: could get five years. Well did you google? 253 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: Well? No, it was just a feeling. It was just 254 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 2: a feeling. 255 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: And then let's let's just fast forward to the Feds 256 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: coming to my place of residence and I wasn't there, 257 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: and one of my friends was like, Hey, some people 258 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 3: from the post Office are here to see you. And 259 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, put them on the phone, because I know 260 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 3: I have no business with the post office. And that 261 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: guy gets on the phone. He's like, yeah, we're here 262 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: with the post Office. Want to talk about a package 263 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 3: that you I'm like, look, let's just let's just cut it, Like, 264 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: tell me exactly what you're here for. I'm on the 265 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: phone with them, you know, they're like, well, we're here 266 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: for some flights that you've been you know, booking people 267 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 3: and things like that. 268 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm like, my heart, my heart sunk. 269 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 3: I'm with my girlfriend at the time, and I do 270 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: one of those sit ups in the bed. 271 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: Like she's like, what's wrong. I'm like, oh my god, it's. 272 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: Happening, right. But what was happening was something that I 273 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 3: knew two years ago. When I told you I was 274 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: sitting at the I'm like, Okay, this is supposed to 275 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 3: be happening. 276 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: You know. I was on the run for like two days, 277 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: and then yeah, I was. 278 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: I was getting as much information as I could about 279 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: the situation from. 280 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: Office. Look, no, I was not calling that nigga. 281 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: He was the last person I wanted to talk to 282 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 3: because I'm like they listening to his phone calls. 283 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: I was listen this guy. 284 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm so bad because I would have been. 285 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: Calling him like you you would you you would think that, 286 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: but at the time, you're like, he's the person that's 287 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 3: doing the bookies and stuff, like they're already like super 288 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 3: on him, so don't even want to contact him, right, 289 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: But however, there were he was, as I guess, I 290 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: was like a pawn in a sense because he had 291 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: like thirty other people that were sending him flights and stuff. 292 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 3: So I got word that those other you know ten 293 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: people that were in LA you know, they got out 294 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: as soon as they turned their self in, that type 295 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 3: of thing. 296 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: So I turned myself in. 297 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: I was on pre trial for a year, for about 298 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: a year, you know, basically just going through the whole process. Yeah, 299 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: I turned myself in, like hey, I'm who you're looking for, 300 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: you know. 301 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: And it was a little process. 302 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: I think I did like one day in jail and 303 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: then they just released me because I was on pre 304 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: trial release. Pre trial is where you go through the 305 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: whole process until you're sentenced. 306 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: You know. 307 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: I didn't have anything else on my record. It's my 308 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: very first thing. So they let me out on pre trial. 309 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: And at that time, I got busy on my modeling situation, 310 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: you know, because I'm like, okay, no more flight man, like. 311 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: Me, let me get out there and let me. Let 312 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: me go back to it. 313 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: And you know what, when I when I did go 314 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: back to it, I booked like one of the biggest 315 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: gigs that I've ever done in my life. I did 316 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: a video called super Base with Nicki Minaj and I 317 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: was the main guy. Yeah, I was the main guy 318 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 3: on that video that they was throwing like the stuff 319 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: in the pool. It was, Yeah, it was, it was. 320 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: It was a fun experience, you know. But I was 321 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: doing what I should have already been doing all these 322 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: years ago, you know. And but everything does happen for 323 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: a reason, because you know, when I when I ended 324 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: up getting sentenced to the camp, you know, I'm now 325 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: in a facility with people that have been locked up 326 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 3: for years, people that have been business owners that have 327 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: made millions of dollars. 328 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: I was going to say, because the FED prison, I 329 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: would feel like it's almost like the how do I 330 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: word this without was making it glorified? But like you 331 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: have people was some astounding. 332 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: Oh amazing, Like I was literally playing cards with a 333 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 3: millionaire billionaires, you know what I'm saying. Like these guys, 334 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: you know, obviously money doesn't matter right now, but they're 335 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 3: just them, you know. And I knew when I when 336 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 3: I was to get out that I didn't want to 337 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: model anymore. I wanted to be an entrepreneur, Like I 338 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: wanted to do something that was going to bring in 339 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: that bread, you know, and to where I could live 340 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: the life that I was faking when I was modeling, 341 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So you know, when I 342 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: when I got released. It was just I knew I 343 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: wasn't gonna, you know, get into anything that was going 344 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: to put me back in jail, of course. 345 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: You know, and. 346 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: You know it was it was definitely a journey because 347 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: I was in my thirties, you know, and I was 348 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 3: told by somebody, you know, when you hit your thirties 349 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: as a man, you know you're going to be faced 350 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 3: with either looking real forward, going forward, or stepping back 351 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 3: and acting like you're in your twenties and not really 352 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: you know. 353 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: Grow you know. 354 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that. I never heard that. 355 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: I was told that by somebody. You know. 356 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: That's interesting because I do think that people either go 357 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: with and I'm guessing it's either you break out of 358 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: your comfort zone in your thirties you say okay, that's it, 359 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: or you backside and say you don't want this is 360 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: where I'm comfortable at and that would be when you go. 361 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: Back to I guess playing exactly exactly. And I was 362 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: a father. I had two kids at the tenn before 363 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: or after after. 364 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 3: Well before I had a daughter before I got locked up. 365 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: I was twenty one when I had my first child. 366 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: But I'm more. 367 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: Of a father now because when I got out, I 368 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: had another child. So now it's like I'm thirty thirty one, Like, okay, 369 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: I have a family now, you know, are you and. 370 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: The child's moms together? Is it two different or one? Look, 371 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm all of them? 372 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you in it. This I'm mad is the part. 373 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: I'm mad because okay, baby mama's no I got I 374 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: have five, five baby mothers. 375 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: You're hilarious. 376 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 2: Yes, I do six, six kids, you know. 377 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so you got just still got to. 378 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: I didn't want my kids all looking the same, you know. 379 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: That's what We're gonna cut all that out out. 380 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: I'm joking. 381 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 3: No, I'm a I'm a sucker for love, you know, 382 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: like each each each. 383 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: One of my kids. 384 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: Like I really thought like I was gonna be with 385 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 3: her for the rest of my life, you know what 386 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 387 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: So we have a baby. We having a baby like. 388 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: The gym class he wrote song where he was like 389 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,239 Speaker 1: this is the one or something. But all right, all right, 390 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: before we get into all that, let's get you started 391 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: on the meal because I am hungry. Okay, So go 392 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: ahead and name the ingredients of your dish. 393 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: You ready for this jail house meal? 394 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm hungry. 395 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so we have a rice paper in case you're 396 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: not familiar with rice paper. This is a nce paper right. 397 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: Here, and we can already just and this has water, yes, 398 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: so we could already just toss that in the water 399 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 3: right there. And this is a very simple meal, quick, 400 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: very tasteful as well too. 401 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: Let's see this pilot. We're gonna turn this on and. 402 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 3: Open up these sardines, right they don't need to be special. 403 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: Just so some of them are in water and some 404 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: are in oil, just so you know, okay, and then 405 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: you brought your special sauce, so we will be eating 406 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: very very good today. So I love it when someone 407 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: brings out a dish that we've never had on the show. 408 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: But I also love it when it's really affordable, and 409 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: your dish is, guys, it's very affordable. 410 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: And it's impressive too, especially when you get the rolling 411 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 3: aspect going on, because you know, you could be on 412 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: a date. 413 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 2: And just you're hilarious. 414 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: I'm serious, baby, number seven point, you're hilarious, and you. 415 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: Know it's a fun thing that you could both do together. 416 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: You know, when you were at the camp is, do 417 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: you feel like at the camp is where you kind 418 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: of really started to get into entrepreneurship because of the 419 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: people you were around. 420 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was learning a lot from them because a 421 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 3: lot of them had you know, different businesses, you know, 422 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 3: and when they leave, you know, from the camp, there're 423 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: still millionaires, you know, just because they're in the phase 424 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: of me, and they took all their money, you know. 425 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: So it was very inspiring. I was in a situation 426 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 3: where you know, it's either you you grow or you don't. 427 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 3: You know, It's like, why are these people in my 428 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: life right now? That's how I look at life. You know. 429 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 3: We had a I was in a program when I 430 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 3: was there where you know, once you complete the program, 431 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 3: you know, you get achievements and things like that. And 432 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 3: we were all asked a question like in a big circle, 433 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: like where are you going to take from this aspect 434 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 3: of your life? 435 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: And one gentleman in the circle. 436 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 3: He's like, he was like, oh, this part of my 437 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 3: life never happened, Like God, I'm just going to delete 438 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: this part of my life out. 439 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 2: And I get that. You know, the average person is gonna, 440 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: you know, feel that way. Jail Hell. 441 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: I got to remember he probably was experiencing an amazing 442 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: life before. 443 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was he was done with it. But I'm 444 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: listening to him, and I'm like, there's zero way how 445 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: I could take this away from my life. 446 00:19:59,400 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: You know. 447 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: I I have kids, you know, I have to teach 448 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 3: them about, you know, the rights and wrongs and repercussions, 449 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 3: you know, and like, this is definitely an experience that 450 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 3: I'll speak of proudly, you know, not that it happened, 451 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: but you know, I'm able to talk about something that, 452 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: you know, that could potentially. 453 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: Happen to you. 454 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 3: You know, you never know in life, you know, and 455 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 3: the positives that came from it. Because if it wasn't 456 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 3: for that, I don't think I would have been as 457 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 3: ambitious to thrive to you know, want to have my 458 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 3: own business as much. 459 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: You know. But yeah, now. 460 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: You said that in this year you were going to 461 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: do six months. Yeah it smells like Seraine, does the 462 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: fire need to be turned up? It's very low, all right, 463 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: And you gotta name your you gotta name your seasonings. 464 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 2: Okay, So this seasoning right here is slap your mama. Yeah, 465 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: slap your mama. 466 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 3: I'm all about like some Cajun stuff growing from Mississippi, 467 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 3: New Orleans, you know, like it's got to have that kick. 468 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: If it doesn't have that kick, it's like why we 469 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: eating this? You know? So the slap your mama is awesome, 470 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 2: and some. 471 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 3: Garlic herb from dads, right so, and plus the the 472 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 3: sardines already has some flavor. 473 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, already the flavor in it too, so you don't 474 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: need too much. 475 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: And we're just gonna let this heat up and cook 476 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 3: for about seven minutes and we're going to come back 477 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: to that because the rest. As a matter of fact, 478 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 3: like we can already start with this right. 479 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: Now. Do you think that you would have walked away 480 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: with so much impact had your dad not turned you 481 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: down for the for the six months, Like, do you 482 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: think you would have? Because if I'm staying somewhere short term, 483 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, man, I just want to do my time 484 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: to get out. But do you think that the extension 485 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: made you really look at things a little differently? 486 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: Well, it absolutely did, you know, because my dad's situation 487 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: was kind of a support situation. You know, I had 488 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 3: plans on going out there and helping my father as 489 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 3: much as I could because he was getting older and 490 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 3: he was working just as much as he's always have. 491 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: He's always been an entrepreneur, hisself always would say I'm 492 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: self sufficient and independent. 493 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: That was his thing. You know. 494 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 3: He worked in New Orleans at the French Quarters, and 495 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 3: I wanted to go out there and help him and 496 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: so where he didn't have to, you know, work too hard, 497 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 3: you know. But being that the turn was, you know, 498 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 3: I didn't go out there, and it's like, okay, it's 499 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 3: just me, Like this venture in life is just. 500 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: Me right now? 501 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: Were you mad at him when he did that? 502 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: Initially till I figured out why he did it. And 503 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: it was my sister that told him to say no 504 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 3: because she felt like he would be enabling me, and 505 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 3: because he was ready, like, son, you come in, we're 506 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 3: about to be about to and all of a sudden 507 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: it's like no, you know, and my sister enabled to. 508 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: Well, my sister told him to say no. And that 509 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: was a situation that you know, I'm like. 510 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 4: Okay, I was mad at I was mad at the 511 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 4: sister because literally, like two years later, my dad ended 512 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 4: up in the hospice, the hospice, I'm like, what is 513 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 4: he in the hospice for? 514 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 2: Sister? 515 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 3: Well, he had cancer and he told me not to 516 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 3: say anything about it. 517 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: Well, okay, because. 518 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 3: I could have been out there with him all these years, 519 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: you know, while he had cancer and helping him even 520 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: fight the cancer. 521 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 2: You know. 522 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 3: So you know that's a whole ya know, whole nother 523 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: thing too. But everything does happen for a reason. Because 524 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: my dad in the hospice, I went to go see 525 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 3: him broken all. I had my probation officer that I 526 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 3: had at the time, I only had like three hundred 527 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: dollars in my pocket. 528 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: And I wasn't supposed to leave. 529 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 3: Without permission, and I wasn't about to ask for permission 530 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: because my dad's in the hospice. 531 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: I just got my flight. 532 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 3: And went out to Mississippi and stay with my dad, 533 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: you know, throughout the whole duration until he passed away. 534 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: Which was probably like a week or so. But it 535 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 2: was the best. 536 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: It was the best time I ever spent with my dad, 537 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: you know, like, and I've had some great moments with him, 538 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 3: but in passing, like, oh my god, like it was 539 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 3: we had a ball, you know, so and yeah, my daddy, 540 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 3: I love you, daddy. 541 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 542 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so now that let's go back to Okay, 543 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: you're in jail, you're hooking up millionaires with meals. But 544 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: the good thing is I'm guessing at these potlucks, they're 545 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: bringing you some different things to to test your skill set. 546 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: Are any of these guys saying, man, your food so good? Man, 547 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: you should you could cheorge for this. 548 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: I mean a jail. They try to big you up 549 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: on everything that you do, like, oh, man, you're gonna. 550 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 3: Do this good when you get out, Like yeah, yeah, 551 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,959 Speaker 3: you know, we all try to pick each other up. 552 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: But I guess this was just one of those dishes 553 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 3: where it was like when I left, they were like, man, like. 554 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: We shure gonna miss that. That that those roles that 555 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 2: you was making. 556 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: You got me hungry, by the way, guys, in the roles, 557 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: there's the rice paper, the onions, the peppers, pasta and 558 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: sardines and seasoning. So because I know he didn't get 559 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: a chance because I got right into his. 560 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: Story, So let's let's get this on your on your tray. 561 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 3: A matter of fact, we're gonna toss this one right 562 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: here because we got into a conversation. 563 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: It sat so long you can put it right there 564 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: and start a new one. 565 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: So I googled this. It's supposed to be in water 566 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: for like ten seconds. 567 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 3: Yes, So I want you to do what I'm doing 568 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: because this is gonna be mine and then. 569 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 2: You got it. 570 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: Oh I'm touching too, sorry, Oh mine is a little rippy. 571 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: It's okay, whatever, I had two? 572 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: That was two on there. Okay, cool? 573 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: All right, So we do we wet the whole paper? 574 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you at the whole paper. 575 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna need some more water. Does it have to 576 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: be warm water? 577 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 3: Warm water is preferred because it activates a lot faster. 578 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: But as long as it's wet, we should be. 579 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: Okay. I licked the rice paper just so you guys 580 00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: know it's a little salte. Okay, So back to your 581 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: story before we try this. What happens after you get 582 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: out of the camp and kind of start leading me 583 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: in the direction of wings? 584 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 2: Okay? 585 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: So so when I got out, still feed me. I 586 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 3: started working with my uncle. 587 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 2: My uncle had this invention called easy out weave, and 588 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: just you're going to take some bunch, but enough to. 589 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: Got some noodles on the paper. 590 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 3: On the paper you want to get your These are 591 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 3: bell peppers, raw onions, raw bell peppers. And you know 592 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: this is really just for the I mean the taste, 593 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 3: of course, but I picked the different colors because you know, 594 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 3: you want your. 595 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,479 Speaker 1: Food spoken like a true shift. Okay, so I got 596 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: the red and green peppers. I'm not I'm a huge 597 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: fan of onions, so I'm so thankful that I cut 598 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: these paper thin because if you're anything like me, you know, 599 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: just in case someone tries to set you up with 600 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: a raw onion, you gotta go think. 601 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: And I'm gonna hook you up, hook you up with 602 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 3: a bunch of meat, all right, dam. 603 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: Want to. 604 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: I want to keep talking to you right now. But 605 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 2: it's a level of concentration. 606 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 3: I'm hungry, and so we are gonna use some everything sauce. 607 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 2: Everything sauce, right. This sauce is a honey, garlic, buffalo 608 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 2: and barbecue mix. Right. 609 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 3: It's one of our most popular flavors that we have 610 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: at Wings and things. And you're gonna put that on there. 611 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: Okay. This is where it gets a little fun, right now. 612 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So you're just gonna lift up the side, well, 613 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 3: I usually use that for the dipping aspect. So you 614 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: want to fold it over the corners each corner. 615 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: Did you get the fold? 616 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 3: Man? 617 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: This is easy to do, guys. 618 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 2: It's not it's not. 619 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, it's looking like. 620 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 3: A little bit yeah, yes, it does, and then you 621 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: just roll. It's kind of a roll. Once you get 622 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: the fold, then you just start rolling. 623 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: Okay, just so you know, mine was falling apart from jump. 624 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: It's all good. 625 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: So if you if you overlap the the rice paper 626 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 3: on top of the rice paper, I. 627 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: Only have one just you know, it's been a while 628 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: since I've been in jail, you know. But we're going 629 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: to do another one. But let's get the taste. 630 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: Do you want to put sauce in this part? 631 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: Yes, I want to. 632 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: I want to. I want to master this. I'm never 633 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: I I thought when rice paper, I thought it's refrigerated, 634 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: but apparently it's not frigerated. Okay, so I'm gonna put it. 635 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: Oh I don't think this is melted enough. All right, 636 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna scoop it and eat it. 637 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: Oh you're putting it. You're using another rice paper on that. 638 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: I was, but it's like not rice paper. 639 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: Yes, in like fifteen seconds, it will be that way. 640 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: But however, you. 641 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: Want to get your other your role out of the 642 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 3: way of that rice paper because it'll stick to it. 643 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: And then oh, okay, let me just try I'm gonna 644 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: try it. 645 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: Guys. 646 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: Mmmm, No, I ain't gonna lie. This is a hit. 647 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: And it's simple, right, No, who's that money? It's simple. 648 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: Your role looks so much better than mine. You've been 649 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: here before. M hmm mm hmm. 650 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: The other parts fell apart. Yo, I ain't gonna lie. 651 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: I know they was happy in jail. I ain't had 652 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: sardines in so long. 653 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: Yo. 654 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: This is great and it's a healthy and that everything 655 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: that everything sauces. 656 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm brings it to another level. M So, wings 657 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 3: and things. Wings and things didn't start until two years ago. 658 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: I just want to talk about this, Okay, for all 659 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: y'all listeners, simple ingredients, rice, paper, bell peppers, onions, everything 660 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: sauce is necessary, pasta sardine. I have to address the 661 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: fact that all these textures with the flavor is what 662 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: makes it. I'm not a fan of raw onions, but 663 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: the raw onion crisp really adds. The bell pepper crisp 664 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: adds the soft noodles. The sardines are phenomenal. This is 665 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: one hundred ten out of ten on this show. Okay, 666 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: I will go home and eat this and people will 667 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: probably be like, hey. 668 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: I don't I'm listen to your episodes and see how 669 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: many you give me? 670 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't. There are people that 671 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: failed raw man on this show. 672 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I've seen a couple of struggle man, 673 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna. 674 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: Make another one. Is this ready? 675 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: It's over? 676 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 3: It's literally it's over ready like the rice paper, now 677 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 3: that I remember, like, you gotta be quick with the 678 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 3: rice paper, you know, especially when we're you're using warm 679 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 3: water before. 680 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: You get into wings and things. I mean, I need 681 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: to do another one. Look how easy this is, guys. 682 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: You put the little pasta on. This is delicious. I'm 683 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: gonna have Katie try one of these. You're gonna ever 684 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: have your kids try one? This is really good. Okay, 685 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: I got some red peppers. I'm gonna put my little onions. 686 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm excited about this. 687 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: All right. My next one's gonna be perfect, I promise, 688 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: all right. 689 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: I got my rice paper, all right? What am I missing? 690 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: These are so good? Okay? Oh I gotta finished roll 691 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: of mine, all right? Catch up to you, all right? 692 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: I so want to master this rice paper so bad? 693 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: Yours better? This better? Oh wait? I forgot that everything sauce. 694 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: Throw the whole thing anyway, No, I didn't put. 695 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: It in yet. 696 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: Okay, you're in time. 697 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't hate. Don't hate, guys, Just so you know, 698 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: this sauce is everything. So if you haven't had it 699 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: in person at Wings and things, you did, tell me 700 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: you you are gonna have it where people can. 701 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 3: Order it online online twenty twenty twenty six January. 702 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 2: We're planning on being in stores and ordering online. So 703 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: that's the goal right now. 704 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 3: And it's amazing because that's the sauce I actually made 705 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: on accident. We call it Everything Sauce because I took 706 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 3: all of my sauces that I had and I poured 707 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 3: them all together. And one of the key ingredients in 708 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 3: that Everything sauce is ranch. You did perfect on that 709 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 3: that crunch, that crunch. The mic had to pick that 710 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 3: up real good. 711 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: Let me just tell you, guys, I love them all right. 712 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: Don't be telling all your sauce secrets, but just know 713 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: out there, guys, it is one of a kind, delicious, 714 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: finger licking good. My daughter loves it and she's for it, 715 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: and I love it. 716 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: There you go. 717 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: My pop subs it. My friends love it. 718 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 3: I can tell you the ingredients, but you'll never be 719 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 3: able to remake it because there's. 720 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: Levels level to the game. Absolutely, But before you get 721 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: into how to, what's in the sauce? Tell me you 722 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: get out of camp, start marching me towards wings and things. 723 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 3: And so let's let's fast forward to going through a 724 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: couple of businesses that that I ended up starting, and 725 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 3: each one was very financially satisfying, right. I had a 726 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 3: T shirt business that I started with my son's mother, 727 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 3: and when we broke up, the company kind of fell apart. 728 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 3: My other business venture was I got into cannabis. And 729 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: I was totally against cannabis for my whole life until 730 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 3: I sold a pound to somebody and they came back 731 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: like two days later wanning another pound. I'm like, okay, 732 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 3: that was like such a quick turnaround, and it was legal, 733 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, Like, let me get into the 734 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 3: cannabis world. So I was in the cannabis world for 735 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 3: about three years. 736 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: And when the. 737 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 3: Cannabis world kind of went down a little bit profit wise, probably. 738 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 2: Like yeah, right after COVID, it was high. During Oh, 739 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,959 Speaker 2: it was like COVID was the best ever. 740 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: Make it a lot of money. 741 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 3: I was always into cars, so I had an opportunity 742 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 3: to purchase a body shop and I did so, and 743 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 3: with that company, it gave me a lot of free time, 744 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 3: you know, much much like the cannabis world did as 745 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 3: well too, And I enjoyed my free time that I had. 746 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: Where did you get the money to buy cannabis? So 747 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: the cannabis allowed you to buy a body shop cannabis, 748 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: and the body shop because you weren't actually doing the work, 749 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: you had more time because it was more profitable. 750 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 3: It was what I say, more profitable, It was kind 751 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 3: of the same. It was the same as with the cannabis. 752 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 3: So it replaced the cannabis, but more time because you know, 753 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 3: you a car, like I don't have to be in 754 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 3: front of the car every day, you know, and it's 755 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 3: just being worked on. 756 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 2: So what else am I going to do? You know? 757 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 3: So it gave me that free time and I loved 758 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 3: my freedom that I had. 759 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: So why did you not keep both going at the 760 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: same time? 761 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 3: Because the cannabis, well, the cannabis was down and I 762 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 3: wasn't into the race of where everybody else trying to 763 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 3: figure it out? Now, I just find something else to do, 764 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 3: you know. 765 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: So, so you know, pivoting to be able to master 766 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: the pivot as an entrepreneur, is a huge thing because 767 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: sometimes entrepreneurs they spend too much time on a business 768 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: trying to rework it, reroute it versus just pivoting, especially 769 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: when an industry switching hands. Like if you go from 770 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember when print versus digital, right, 771 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: some people will be like, I'm going to stay with 772 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: me print, and it's like, no, at some point you 773 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 1: have to recognize that there's a Blockbuster, red Box, Netflix. 774 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 1: You know, at some point you have to be able 775 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: to pivot fast. So that pivoting right there is just 776 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: a skill by itself. 777 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you. 778 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 3: And I think it's more so me keeping my eyes 779 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 3: open for knowing that this is going to die, so 780 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 3: what's next, you know, and being that I was comfortable 781 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 3: with cars already. I was always into cars. It was 782 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 3: a fun thing for me as well too. Now having 783 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 3: my body shop, I think it was like two years 784 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 3: two years into it. I've never thought of having a 785 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 3: restaurant ever, you know, Like the most I've cooked was, 786 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 3: you know, when I was in jail, Thank you, thank you. 787 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 3: And the body shop situation, excuse me. The wings and 788 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 3: things came about when I was at the beach like 789 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 3: you one day, just kicking it, you know. And the 790 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 3: location where we're at now used to be called hot 791 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 3: Dog Supreme, all right, and it was the only place 792 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 3: in the area where they had burgers at the time, 793 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 3: you know. So I walk up to the window and 794 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 3: nobody's in the front to serve me or anything, you know. 795 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 3: And then this little white kid comes rolling up on 796 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 3: a skateboard. Hey, I'll be there to serve you in 797 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 3: a second, like behind me. He's outside of the establishment. 798 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, Joey, it's all up in there, 799 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 3: you know. 800 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 2: So he's up in. 801 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 3: There, and now you know, I got he took my order, 802 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 3: and I'm just looking in like seeing what's happening up 803 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 3: in there, you know. And I'm wondering how much is 804 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 3: he paying for rent here? Because I literally see fifty 805 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 3: one hundred people just walk by every second, you know. 806 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 3: It's right there on the boardwalk, you know, and I'm 807 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 3: the only person in line right here. I'm like, this 808 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 3: is They looks like they have good food, but why 809 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 3: aren't people over here in line? Everybody's hungry, you know. 810 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 3: So I asked him how much rent was, and he 811 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 3: told me that the owner was looking to sell his location, 812 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 3: and I was like, okay, let me get his information, 813 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 3: you know. 814 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 2: So he gave me his information. 815 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 3: At the time, I was on a vacation with my wife, 816 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 3: and when I got back from the vacation, the guy 817 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 3: called me, like. 818 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:06,280 Speaker 1: Business. 819 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 3: We exchanged information like before. Then I kind of forgot 820 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 3: about it a little bit, you know. But when he 821 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 3: called me when I got back from vacation, I'm okay, 822 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 3: this must be a sign. And this was like December 823 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 3: twenty second, yeah, right, twenty twenty three, I think. And 824 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 3: I linked up with him at his other location because 825 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 3: he had like four other locations. It was just that 826 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 3: Venice location. Yeah, yeah, he had like four other stores, 827 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 3: four of the restaurants. I met him at one of 828 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 3: his other restaurants and it was booming when I went there. 829 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, all these people like he. 830 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 3: Was really playing close attention to his other establishments, but 831 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 3: the Venice one he kind of just wasn't ever there, 832 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 3: didn't really care too much, you know, because you're at 833 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 3: the Venice ocase. You got to have a game plan 834 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 3: for this situation, you know. So the landlord linked up 835 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 3: with us at his location and he was happy to 836 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 3: get rid of him. Honestly, because he felt like his 837 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,320 Speaker 3: location could have done a lot better, you know. And 838 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 3: I told this guy because he's like, how long have 839 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 3: you been in the restaurant business? 840 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 2: So I'm like never, Oh my god. 841 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 3: I'm like, but look, I'll tell you this what I'm 842 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 3: serious about doing something like. 843 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 2: Like you said, like you got to know the pivot. 844 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 2: You know. 845 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 3: I knew I could make food that people would like 846 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 3: to eat, you know. Me and my lady, like we 847 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 3: were like people like Wang's, you know, so wings, Wangs 848 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 3: and other things. 849 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 2: So we were like had the name of it, WANs 850 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 2: and things. And I told the guy, I'm just. 851 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 3: Give me the opportunity, like because I'm ready to go 852 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 3: in because I want to feed all of these people 853 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 3: that are walking down the sport walk, you know. Come 854 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 3: to find out, we ended up being the first black 855 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 3: restaurant on the whole strip ever on Venice Beach. Didn't 856 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 3: even know that I figured there was. 857 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: That was one of the things that they had said 858 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: to me when I first tried it was like or 859 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: I think maybe I asked, is it black owned? 860 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we were the first ones first restaurant. 861 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: In all of Venice, in all of. 862 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 3: Venice and we brought a flavor that was just different. 863 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm from the South, so I'm used 864 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 3: to seasonings. And you know, when you go on the boardwalk, 865 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 3: you just kind of get like your generics. 866 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,959 Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, your hot dog. 867 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're at the beach, so you just 868 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 3: get those beach like little little things, you know. But 869 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 3: we kind of stand out because of our food quality, 870 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 3: the look of our food, and even like our staff. 871 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 2: You know, our staff has. 872 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 3: Like a Southern charm to us all, you know, to 873 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 3: where we greet you and it's like, hey, why your food. 874 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 2: Is being made? Like we're gonna you're gonna. 875 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 3: Listen to this music that we had playing outside and 876 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 3: it's gonna be a vibe for you. 877 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: Now, you guys, isn't there a TV out? 878 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 879 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 3: No, No, we have the TV out there when we 880 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 3: do like certain events or games or that type of 881 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 3: thing like that, you know, because we we had to 882 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 3: do something that was going to captivate that audience that's 883 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 3: walking down that boardwalk. 884 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: You know. 885 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 2: That's why we do the samples. 886 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: It's brilliant because honestly, without the samples, I don't know 887 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: if the business would have. 888 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 3: It wouldn't let me tell you. Our first month, We're 889 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 3: sitting with our full menu out there ready to cook, 890 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 3: and I'm just watching people just walk by, you know, 891 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 3: and I was like, no, ain't no way, they're about 892 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 3: to walk by and I try this good ass food 893 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 3: that we have up in here. So I made a 894 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 3: sample tray and walked out there, and then before I 895 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 3: knew it, like probably every other person that I let 896 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 3: try the sample, they were walking to our window. And 897 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 3: so since then, since month one, that's been a standard 898 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 3: for our company to continuously bring samples out there. Most 899 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 3: people think about their loss that they would make by 900 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 3: giving away so much food, you know. 901 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, and he'd be putting shrimps out. 902 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 2: There, you know, a little little piece, maybe. 903 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: Putting the whole pieces. But I really like the guy 904 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: that hands out the samples because I feel like just 905 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 1: having that even that personality of like talking to the people, 906 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: making jokes whatever. 907 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he does a great job. 908 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta have that, you know, because most people 909 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 3: are scared to talk to other people, you know, But 910 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 3: if you have the personality and the food should one 911 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 3: hundred percent speak for yourself. And I tell people that myself. 912 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 3: I'm like I don't want to sell myself, Like I'll 913 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 3: be out I'll be out there having them, they be 914 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 3: having a good time, we'd be laughing, and so I'm like, look, 915 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 3: I'm not here to sell you. Like the food that 916 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 3: you just tasted, Like, does it make you want to 917 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 3: buy it? You know, because if I try something and 918 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 3: I don't like it, I'm not about. 919 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 2: To Well, no, the nice day, yes, you know what 920 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 921 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: So, and I like that. It's like you combine like 922 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: sweet and salty. So it's really hard to pass up 923 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: because you know, on any given day you're going for 924 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: a vibe. Ya was the savory versus. 925 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, you get all the options there, you know, 926 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 3: and we're really happy and honor to be there at 927 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 3: that location. And we just got a food trailer as 928 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 3: well too, so we're able to pull up here. You 929 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying to Eaven while broke. You know 930 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, We could feed the whole crew. 931 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 2: You know, I was I was. 932 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,240 Speaker 1: Going to ask them guys to bring in some wings 933 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: and things, but I was like, don't be that person, 934 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: don't be that verse, and you know, you got to 935 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: save another episode after this. 936 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 2: I would have been an honor too, but you know 937 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 2: it's a cross. 938 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: No, I'm going to come out there. I'm gonna do 939 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: my little bike. You already know my little bike, my 940 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 1: little four year old. That's what we do. 941 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 2: Bring her through, you know. 942 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: And I like that. It feels like a family business 943 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 1: because sometimes you see your kids there and I like that. 944 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 2: I would. 945 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,800 Speaker 1: I think it's very good for kids to be exposed 946 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: to parents working and you know that whole thing. And 947 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: I see them sometimes like actually do jobs in there. 948 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:32,240 Speaker 2: Yes. 949 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, my daughter's journey, she's three 950 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 3: years old. Every time I leave out the house, can 951 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 3: I come to work with you, dad, I'm like, no, 952 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 3: not today, Not because I knew I needed I needed 953 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 3: her to be at an age where you know, she 954 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 3: could at least greet the people like and this. She 955 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 3: knows that's her job. And it's funny. This past Saturday, 956 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 3: she asked me, and she asked me. The way how 957 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 3: she asked me was so clear. She was like, can 958 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 3: I come to work. 959 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 2: With you today? I'm like, shit, I think she's DD. 960 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 3: So she came and I told her her only job 961 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 3: is when customers come up, is to say welcome to 962 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 3: ways and things, with a smile, and she was practicing 963 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:10,959 Speaker 3: at the house before she left. 964 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 2: She's like, welcome to ways and things. 965 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 3: I would have smiled when we got there her first 966 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 3: like five minutes, she was a little shy. But the 967 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 3: second she did say it, and she saw the reaction 968 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 3: from the customer, Oh my god. Oh I could get 969 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 3: her to stop. She was saying welcome to ways and 970 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 3: things for people that wasn't even walking by or. 971 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 2: Established welcome to ways and things. 972 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, you know, but she she's understanding, Like 973 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 3: my son artists, he's just turned seven. Like if you 974 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,800 Speaker 3: come to the window with him, he's literally going to 975 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 3: take your whole order. A seven year old, like you know, 976 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 3: cash a card, you know, like and we got this, 977 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 3: you want to try this? 978 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 2: Like I'm like, yes, that's beautiful. You know. 979 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 3: I have a feeling, like, you know, when when I'm 980 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 3: no longer here, that I've left a imprint on them 981 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 3: where it's like they like they know they want to 982 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 3: be like you ask him, he's the boss, you know. 983 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 3: I tell him he's the boss, you know, And he 984 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 3: tells people that, hey, if you mess up, you're gonna 985 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 3: get canned. Just clowning around. But you know, it's our 986 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 3: candor that we have in there. 987 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 1: You know, what are some of the I'd say lessons learned. 988 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: Tough lessons learned in doing wings and things. 989 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,399 Speaker 2: Oh so. 990 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: Owning a restaurant, by the way, that's like the one 991 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: of the toughest. 992 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I told you I like my freedom. Yeah, 993 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 3: like my other jobs like gave me a lot of freedom. 994 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 3: Having a restaurant is people have to eat every single day, 995 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 3: you know, not everybody has to get their car worked 996 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 3: on every single day. So it's it's the hardest job 997 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 3: that I've ever had, but it's the most rewarding job 998 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 3: that I've ever had. Like there's nothing more like seeing 999 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 3: people eat my food for the first time and say, shit, 1000 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 3: like this is the best stuff I've ever had. You know, 1001 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 3: at first I thought they was just like lying to me, 1002 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 3: but there was a consistence, Like with people trying our shrimp, 1003 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 3: trying out everything sauce on our wings, They're like, I've 1004 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 3: never tasting anything like this before. To be able to 1005 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 3: feed people is a great feeling. Every third Saturday of 1006 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 3: the month, we work with the nonprofit called the Trusted 1007 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 3: Angels and they come out and we feed anywhere between 1008 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,399 Speaker 3: fifty to one hundred homeless. So they come hand out 1009 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 3: our wings and things, the cards, and we have a 1010 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 3: certain time where everybody comes three four o'clock, whatever time 1011 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 3: we decide, and they line up and we hand out 1012 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 3: the meals to them, and it's just such a great 1013 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 3: it's such a great feeling. And once again, like people like, 1014 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 3: how can you afford to feed these because I'm not 1015 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 3: working with anybody that's given me assistance, you know, I 1016 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 3: know that if in life, and this is a message 1017 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 3: for everybody, you know, if you're doing something that you 1018 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 3: truly enjoy doing from your heart, like God makes the 1019 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 3: way for you, you know, like he put me in 1020 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 3: the position or you know, if I buy two extra 1021 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 3: boxes of chicken for this Saturday and it's going to 1022 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 3: feed these fifty people, I don't have to think about 1023 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 3: the money that I have to spend for that because 1024 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,919 Speaker 3: it's already there, you know. So God makes the way, 1025 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 3: you know, and hopefully we could continue. 1026 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: That's a big deal too. And I think also if 1027 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 1: you're in the position of being like I like to say, 1028 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: these financial situations hopefully are temporary. But I think it's 1029 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 1: nice that they get a really nice meal, like to 1030 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 1: be able to eat WANs and. 1031 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 2: Things is yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, and it's great. 1032 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 3: It's great being able to serve them something instead of hey, 1033 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 3: take these noodles. 1034 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, So to give them something. 1035 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: Where it's like tastes good and they. 1036 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, they feeling, they feeling on top of the world 1037 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,720 Speaker 3: for these you know what I'm saying, next twenty minutes 1038 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 3: like cool, you know so, but yeah, it's definitely, like 1039 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 3: I said, the most rewarding business that I've had, Like 1040 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 3: I still have my body shop. Yeah, but I'm never there, 1041 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 3: you know, Like I'm never because I don't want to 1042 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 3: be there. 1043 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,240 Speaker 1: Yes, Like do you think it's good as an entrepreneur 1044 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: to have dual incomes. 1045 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 3: Multiple yes, Like you use use your talents, you know, 1046 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 3: Like people have so many talents that they haven't even 1047 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 3: tapped into themselves yet with because they're so comfortable with, 1048 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 3: you know, just staying in this one position or working 1049 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 3: this nine to five. You know, it's like you have 1050 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 3: to kind of take that leap, and I have. I 1051 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 3: always say like if your heart is into it and 1052 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,240 Speaker 3: it's something that's positive, that God. 1053 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 2: Will show you the way to it, you know. 1054 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 3: And I want to, you know, definitely say you know, 1055 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 3: we all have it's like our life, like there's different treasures, 1056 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 3: you know, and it's up to us to recognize that, Hey, 1057 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 3: that could be a treasure, but not only that when 1058 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 3: you recognize it, like turn the key for it to 1059 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 3: open it up. A lot of us may recognize it 1060 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,760 Speaker 3: and we just keep on going. 1061 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 2: You know. 1062 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 3: I can think of opportunities that I had even when 1063 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 3: I was modeling, where I didn't really turn that key, 1064 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 3: you know, And if I would have turned that key 1065 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,399 Speaker 3: because I went to that one audition that I thought 1066 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 3: was stupid, but I should have went to it like 1067 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 3: I would have been on that show, you know, I 1068 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 3: didn't turn that key for that. I'm not at no 1069 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 3: position in my life to where I'm I'm turning every key, 1070 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 3: turn the key. I'm turning every key, and it's just 1071 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 3: not stopping at wings and things like. There's so much 1072 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 3: more to my life, you know, and I'm gonna keep 1073 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 3: turning the keys. 1074 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,240 Speaker 1: Well, I am thankful that you turned the keys. I'm 1075 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 1: thankful for you for what you provide for our community. 1076 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 1: Very thankful that you're the first black business on Venice. 1077 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,839 Speaker 1: It gives it's it's refreshing to see someone ring the bell. 1078 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: I think when you ring the bell indirectly, you inspire others. 1079 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 2: There's two more now, Marathon and Earl's on Crenshaw. Oh yeah, 1080 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:48,399 Speaker 2: now too now. 1081 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: But it takes that one, right, it takes that one, 1082 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 1: and you were the one, and you had to overcome 1083 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: all this adversity. And I can't imagine it's easy on 1084 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,240 Speaker 1: a relationship being in business with your wife or your family, 1085 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 1: you know, and dealing with a restaurant that demands so 1086 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,359 Speaker 1: many hours, because I would imagine there's prep time, and 1087 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 1: then I would also imagine that there was a little 1088 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,799 Speaker 1: bit of a learning curve when it comes to the 1089 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: whole hr regulations and cash flow and going and. 1090 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 2: With employees well too. 1091 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 3: You know that that's another thing too, because you know, 1092 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 3: it's not just my life that I'm taking care of, 1093 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,959 Speaker 3: you know, I have to make sure that we stay 1094 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 3: in business for the people that have dedicated their aspects 1095 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,919 Speaker 3: of their lives to us, and that's our employees that 1096 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 3: you know are there every day and making sure that 1097 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 3: everything is ran correctly and the food is cooked properly how. 1098 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 2: It needs to be. 1099 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 3: And you know, it's definitely it's a challenge for sure, 1100 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 3: but it's a rewarding challenge because we just all know, 1101 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 3: we all have the same goal. 1102 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: Yes, you know, And when it comes to hiring employees. 1103 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: When it comes to hiring employees, how do you find 1104 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,359 Speaker 1: an employee that has integrity? Because if you're away from 1105 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 1: the business, you need an employee that has one hundred 1106 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: percent integrity, right, So how do you fish out an 1107 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: employee that has integrity from an employee that doesn't. 1108 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 3: Well, when I first started, I was I kind of 1109 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 3: hired people who I felt with the deserved opportunity. You know. 1110 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 3: I was always at Venice Beach, you know, so I 1111 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 3: knew a lot of people there already. 1112 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,320 Speaker 1: You know, why were you always at Vanish. 1113 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's Venice Beach, you know, I played basketball. 1114 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 3: It was always a place where I like to frequent. 1115 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 1: I like Venice. Manhattan would be first, though if I 1116 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 1: had a lot of money. Man Now, Manhattan's pretty nice, 1117 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: but you still, but I always go to Venice though. 1118 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 1: I go to Manhattan like once a year. 1119 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 2: Okay, But yeah, you know Venice. You get the whole 1120 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:53,239 Speaker 2: culture there. 1121 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel like you're in kind of New York. 1122 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 1: I'm from New York. So it kind of has that 1123 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: urban like you don't know what you're going to see. 1124 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 2: True that, true that. 1125 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 3: And to answer your question as far as how do 1126 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 3: I know what type of employee? You know, I've if 1127 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 3: you see on my call og and I type in 1128 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 3: wings because I put all my employees wings at the end, 1129 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 3: there's probably like twenty or twenty five, and right now 1130 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 3: we have like four hired, you know, but those other 1131 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 3: you know, sixteen didn't work out, whether they you know, 1132 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,839 Speaker 3: the schedule just didn't fit for them, or I caught 1133 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 3: your ass doing something, you know, the ones that we 1134 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 3: have now, I still go off of the feeling of 1135 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,879 Speaker 3: the person, you know, when we have the interview with them. 1136 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 3: It's all a vibe thing. It's all a vibe thing. 1137 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 3: And even the people that ended up doing something wrong, 1138 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 3: you know, I never felt like they would ever do 1139 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 3: something until they actually did something. 1140 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: And are you are? Do you have a prom pull 1141 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 1: on the trigger when it comes to like they messed up? 1142 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,800 Speaker 3: You get, hey, nah, like I told you, we have 1143 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,320 Speaker 3: a cancer, banter cancer, whatever you call it. You know, 1144 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 3: like I asked about to get canned, you know what 1145 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 1146 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 2: They're like, hey, don't get care. 1147 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 3: I don't want to see you get Kim, but I 1148 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,240 Speaker 3: really can your ass. You know, like you get these warnings, 1149 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 3: you get a certain amount of warnings. 1150 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: But you know, like you gotta you gotta so what 1151 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 1: that that that banster that goes on. Do you and 1152 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 1: your wife or your kids ever get into it and 1153 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 1: be like they say that to you? 1154 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 3: My my, I'm so cool with my employees. They say 1155 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,439 Speaker 3: that to me if they see me messing, I'm about 1156 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 3: to canyo ass. 1157 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because we have that hilarious 1158 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, but I love it because it keeps everybody 1159 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: knowing that, you know, there's an expectation and this is serious. 1160 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 3: Yes, well, I mean we're doing this, this this series 1161 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,799 Speaker 3: right now, you know this episode. But you know next 1162 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 3: year you're going to be able to go to our 1163 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 3: Instagram and see like a live broadcast of us every 1164 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 3: day because I'm just getting cameras set up in there 1165 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 3: because there's a lot of things happened up in there. 1166 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 3: There's a hot come that wasn't recorded, you know what 1167 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like even like with the customers that we have, 1168 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 3: like we got to hurry up, Hey, I got customers 1169 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 3: behind you let me take their orders because we're having 1170 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 3: so much fun with the customer up front, you. 1171 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,320 Speaker 2: Know, and we just met them, you know. 1172 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 3: So you know the streaming world, we're getting into that 1173 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,720 Speaker 3: and you'll be able to see our restaurant stream daily. 1174 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 3: I like that. 1175 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:15,800 Speaker 2: Yes, I like that. 1176 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 1: So right now, just for all y'all listeners, tune it in. 1177 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 1: You can get everything Sauce Earthing Sauce online or in retail. 1178 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 2: Yes. 1179 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: And then if you were in the neighborhood or you 1180 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: just want to drive and takete some really good food 1181 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 1: and have a great time with a family or just 1182 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:35,359 Speaker 1: on your. 1183 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 2: Own, treaches for fourteen twenty five Ocean Front Walk. 1184 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 1: Fourteen twenty five Ocean Front Walk, Venace Boulevard. This is 1185 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,839 Speaker 1: the first black owned business on the block, so don't 1186 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,280 Speaker 1: just hit a marathon and all the others. Definitely definitely 1187 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 1: check them out and have some good eats. And as 1188 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 1: far as the dish on this show, I have to 1189 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,760 Speaker 1: say ten out of ten guys, if you are struggling 1190 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: out there, believe it or not, this is a quick 1191 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 1: dish under fifteen minutes. 1192 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 2: Should I put this on the menu or would you 1193 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 2: order this? 1194 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,840 Speaker 1: I've I don't know, if the people that go to 1195 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 1: the beach would do this, I think they would be 1196 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: scared of the sardine thing, even though it tastes good. 1197 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:16,799 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, don't mix. 1198 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 2: Don't mix. 1199 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 1: It's great. But I feel like your menu kind of 1200 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 1: holds its own and this this wouldn't be like. 1201 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 2: Secret secret menu. We have a secret menu the secret men. 1202 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 3: You know what. 1203 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 1: This could be something that you do offer on a 1204 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,800 Speaker 1: secret menu, like you know, a secret special menu of 1205 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,240 Speaker 1: and it kind of gives a taste of the owner, 1206 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 1: like kind of like if you want. 1207 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,240 Speaker 3: To, like, you know, our potato, like a big potato. 1208 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 3: We have a loaded spiral potato on our secret menu. 1209 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 3: If you go on our all of our all of 1210 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,760 Speaker 3: our secret items are on the are on our instagram 1211 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 3: and the only way you could order them is to 1212 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 3: show that item from from the instagram that you follow 1213 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 3: us and you're like, hey, I want this, Oh I 1214 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,319 Speaker 3: want the soft crab the like that's not oh I. 1215 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:02,840 Speaker 1: Need to get that. 1216 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,799 Speaker 2: Yeah we have Yeah, check it out. 1217 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a trip and try I'm gonna start 1218 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: trying to different things on the menu versus ordering what 1219 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 1: I traditionally order. Okay, yes, I have to now because 1220 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I've been playing myself. Yes, all right, guys, 1221 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 1: thank you so much for tuning in any any any 1222 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 1: any place. They can follow you, keep up with you, 1223 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 1: go ahead. 1224 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 3: Wang's Wang's at Venice. Wang's w A n G s 1225 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 3: at Venice. You could follow us there on Instagram and 1226 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 3: from there it has all the rest of our external 1227 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 3: links for our TikTok and everything of that nature. And 1228 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 3: again the address is fourteen twenty five Ocean Front Walk, 1229 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 3: Finish Boulevard. And yeah, that's that's pretty much it. 1230 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming in and sharing your story and 1231 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 1: your meal, and I love this interview, so thanks, and 1232 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 1: I'll see you soon. You know, I'll be at the 1233 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 1: beach ordering try and samples. All right, guys, thanks for 1234 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 1: tuning in. 1235 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 2: Peace out peace,