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Speaker 3: Happy Monday. We have an amazing show for everybody day.

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Speaker 3: What do we have RSTL.

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Speaker 1: Indeed we do. There was a hell of a lot

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Speaker 1: happening this weekend. Your tax dollars going to foreign wars.

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Speaker 1: How excited are we about the bipartisan consensus that always

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Speaker 1: International Criminal Court, so lots of break down. There've also

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Speaker 1: got some Trump news for you man self. Ima outside

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Speaker 1: of his trial last week, but also opening statements start today,

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Speaker 3: You're going to enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, huge victory for labor and the United Auto Workers

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Speaker 1: in particular, a resounding win at that Volkswagen plant in Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Will break down what happened and what it means going forward.

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Speaker 1: Got a couple of highlights for you from Tucker on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll discuss.

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Speaker 1: We've got thoughts on and we've got a great guest

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Speaker 2: Yes, of course that is the most important story in

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Speaker 2: we would welcome you to do so. But as we

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Speaker 2: the House of Representatives after Speaker Mike Johnson stabbed his

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Speaker 2: It all together and create the greatest uniparty war funding

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Speaker 3: Let's go and put this up.

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Speaker 2: There on the screen as the votes passed through the

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Speaker 2: you see Ukraine flags that are all across chantings Slava Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: They're being passed out. What some representatives Crystal were.

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Speaker 2: Actually facetiming Ukrainian soldiers who are on the front line,

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Speaker 2: And I guess the main takeaway that we can have

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Speaker 2: Screw you know. There's no talk of filibuster or any

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Speaker 1: Listen, when it comes to you getting healthcare, you're getting

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Speaker 1: whether it is Listen, with regard to Ukraine, I'm incredibly

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Speaker 1: There is nothing but plaudits from the media for funding

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will be honest, this is the blackest pill

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Speaker 2: this is the worst park Crystal. This sixty billion dollars

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Speaker 2: Somebody's got to pay for all those limbs, and for

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Speaker 3: It never ends. This has no purpose.

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Speaker 2: Now, if they were using this for defensive purposes, maybe, okay,

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Speaker 2: him the Butcher, because his entire strategy is to just

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Speaker 3: Just from Israel's own actions.

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Speaker 2: What have they done to make America more safe, nothing

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Speaker 2: invite more attacks on American service members World War III.

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Speaker 3: So now what you know, where.

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Speaker 2: Are we Why are we all paying for this to

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Speaker 2: if we wanted. So in both cases, you have wars

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Speaker 3: Say, both of Israel and for the population of Gaza. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: which I could easily make that case.

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Speaker 2: The only people who are benefiting are the war manufacturers

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Speaker 1: That really triple loyalty a vice.

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Speaker 3: Did you guys hear that line?

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Speaker 2: For those of us who are believers, it is a

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Speaker 1: My simple request, Well, what this means is that it

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Speaker 2: If you guys want an inside of you into this.

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Speaker 2: This is April twelfth, twenty twenty four. Should more weapons

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question, Sager, because I

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Speaker 3: I think exactly what I do in Ukraine doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: Didn't matter. The speaker wanted it, so do the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: the side of democracy, you know, not only here but

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Speaker 2: across the world. I'm like, okay, all right, cool, I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's just nothing that will ever happen where you're not

439
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Speaker 2: going to vote against the Republicans. Most Republicans vote exactly

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Speaker 2: the same way on the margins. There may be some

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Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, they can stablish.

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Speaker 2: They don't even stablish in the back, they stablish in

443
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Speaker 2: the front, and they twist the knife and then they

444
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Speaker 2: they give the you know, the knife over to us,

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Speaker 2: and then they accuse you of being the one who's

446
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Speaker 2: in the wrong, and they're like, why are you committing

447
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Speaker 2: violence when all this is happening, Yeah, which is why

448
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Speaker 2: you have to go and vote in order to bandit

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Speaker 2: yourself up.

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Speaker 1: I do think there's a bit of a warning sign

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Speaker 1: here though, for Israel on the other hand, because you know,

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Speaker 1: there used to be this total lockstep uniformity that no

453
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Speaker 1: one broke from, and that you know, anyone who did

454
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Speaker 1: knew that was going to be the end of their

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Speaker 1: political career. And even with a pack that Israel lobby

456
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Speaker 1: threatening to spend one hundred million dollars in primaries against

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Speaker 1: anyone who even thinks of dissenting, even with that kind

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Speaker 1: of firepower trained at now you know, all thirty seven

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Speaker 1: of these individuals who voted against this funding, they still

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Speaker 1: were willing to do it and still feel like they'll

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Speaker 1: be able to hold onto their seats and that you

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Speaker 1: know that it was worth paying that price, or that

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Speaker 1: there's enough energy on the other side to make up

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Speaker 1: for the fact that they could have that money spent

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Speaker 1: against them. So I do think as disheartening and depressing

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Speaker 1: as this is, there is a bit of a warning

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Speaker 1: sign here for Israel and that they just don't have

468
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Speaker 1: quite the lockstep control that they once did.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree.

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Speaker 2: I think twenty five thirty years from now, you're right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah again, I just point to Ukraine. You can lose

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Speaker 2: the public and they'll still get it done for you.

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Speaker 2: So in the near term, folks, sign up, because if

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Speaker 2: it's up to these people, we would die for foreign

475
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Speaker 2: countries before we would ever die, you know, for any

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Speaker 2: of our own interests. And that is the clearest takeaway

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Speaker 2: that we have. I would be remiss if I didn't

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Speaker 2: leave out President Donald Trump's role in making sure that

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Speaker 2: this Ukraine aid actually happened. There's been a lot of

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Speaker 2: you know, papering over by the magabase as to how

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Speaker 2: exactly Trump went from a guy who spoke again a

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Speaker 2: four Ukrainian peace, remember in the famous CNN moment on

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Speaker 2: the town hall when he said, I'm for you know,

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Speaker 2: stopping the dying.

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Speaker 3: I want to find peace.

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Speaker 2: I would have peace there in a second, the democratic

487
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Speaker 2: liberal media is like, oh, well he would pull money

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Speaker 2: away from Ukraine on day one. Well, you know, he

489
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Speaker 2: also was the one who shipped a lot of lethle

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Speaker 2: aid to Ukraine back in twenty fifteen. But Mike Johnson

491
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Speaker 2: and others and Lindsey Graham basically convinced Trump to endorse

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Speaker 2: some bs lend lease loan program to the most corrupt

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Speaker 2: and poor nation.

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Speaker 3: In all of Europe.

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Speaker 2: And let's not forget Lindsey Graham here now saying that

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Speaker 2: it was Trump. Trump himself is the one responsible for

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Speaker 2: getting this through the House. Let's take a lisson.

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Speaker 7: So, with all due respect to Senator Events, he's wrong.

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Speaker 7: We were told within four days Key would fall.

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Speaker 1: But is he wrong about the math? Yea. Is he

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Speaker 1: wrong about the production?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's wrong the whole concept that we can't deal

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Speaker 7: with multiple problems. In World War Two, we fought the

504
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Speaker 7: Germans and the Japanese. We have an industrial base that

505
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Speaker 7: needs to be retooled. But the Ukrainian military, with our help,

506
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Speaker 7: has killed about fifty percent of the combat power of

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Speaker 7: the Russians. If you pull the plug on Ukraine, Coach,

508
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Speaker 7: you don't have enough capability. There goes Taiwan. Ukrainians are

509
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Speaker 7: fighting like tigers. This aid package has a loan component

510
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Speaker 7: to it. This would not have passed without Donald Trump.

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Speaker 7: I want to thank the House Speaker and the King

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Speaker 7: Jeffrey's working together in a bipartisan fashion to give weapons

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Speaker 7: to Ukraine to buy to fight that matters to us

514
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Speaker 7: and prosident Trump has created a loan component to this package.

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Speaker 7: It gives us leverage down the road. So this idea

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Speaker 7: that we can't help U Traine, Israel and Taiwan at

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Speaker 7: the same time, I reject that.

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Speaker 2: I want to thank President Trump for making this to

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Speaker 2: go through it now. Listen, According to MAGA Defenders, Crystal,

520
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Speaker 2: Trump has been bamboos.

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Speaker 3: Trump can Trump cannot fail. It can only be failing.

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Speaker 2: And so if Lindsey Graham went down and look, Trump

523
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Speaker 2: is an idiot, like, let's be honest on policy, just

524
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Speaker 2: doesn't care, it doesn't care about He cares about basically

525
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Speaker 2: one thing, trade and I may be immigration on depending

526
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Speaker 2: on the day. And so when Lindsay Graham goes down

527
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Speaker 2: there and he's.

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Speaker 3: Like it be alone, it wouldn't be giving it to them.

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Speaker 2: Trump's like, wow, alone, Well, that's great as a businessman,

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Speaker 2: and so what do they do. They write in some

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Speaker 2: bullshit loan into the text, and then they don't tell

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Speaker 2: you that Biden is the president after he signs it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, and he can just forgive the entire loan.

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Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, the loan is interest free

535
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Speaker 2: and it has an indefinite period on when you supposedly

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Speaker 2: get paid back. And so is it alone if there's

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Speaker 2: no enforcement terms and there's no interest, or is it

538
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Speaker 2: a gift. It's a gift, that's what's happening here. And

539
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Speaker 2: so it's a complete fake out. And so Trump is

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Speaker 2: there's two options. Trump is either too dumb to know

541
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Speaker 2: the difference between a fake loan and a real loan

542
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Speaker 2: and then allow himself to get bamboozled, or he supports

543
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Speaker 2: shipping weapons to Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: Either has the same net effect to me. So I

545
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Speaker 3: don't care. So it's Trump's fault that this is all

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Speaker 3: went through.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And of course Republican voters they're like freaking sheep,

548
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Speaker 2: you know, they're just gonna sit there and eat the

549
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Speaker 2: grab bo, like, oh, it's so terrible with the liberal

550
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Speaker 2: media is saying about mister Trump here, It's like, no,

551
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: this is on Trump. Lindsey Graham ate the rhino. Trump

552
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Speaker 2: is the one who decided to let it pass. So

553
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Speaker 2: let's all just be real clear why it's gonna happen.

554
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Speaker 2: If Trump gets reelected, who does he actually listen to

555
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Speaker 2: And is he still you know, so dumb to be

556
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Speaker 2: able to allow himself to be fooled. And if you

557
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 2: are fine with that, cool, but just be real honest

558
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 2: about what your voting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the hope. Consistently, whenever Trump goes against what, you know,

560
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Speaker 1: what he promised the base, it's always, oh, it's not

561
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Speaker 1: his fault and the versisioner's fault. It's this person that's

562
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Speaker 1: a deep state, it says, it's that like, this is

563
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Speaker 1: an adult man who was president of the United States

564
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Speaker 1: at some point he has to be responsible for his

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Speaker 1: own actions. And you know, so Marjorie Taylor Green, she

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Speaker 1: was against all of this, and she's been very you know, unspoken,

567
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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, and on this I'm actually, you know,

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Speaker 1: on the same side of her, But she never points

569
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Speaker 1: the finger at Donald Trump and his culpability here. That's

570
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: somehow left out of her analysis. When yeah, you got

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Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham there on TV saying listen, I want to

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Speaker 1: thank Mike Johnson, Hakeem Jefferies, and Donald Trump. Wouldn't happened

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Speaker 1: without Trump, And somehow that gets left out of the

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Speaker 1: critique hear from those on the Republican side who are making.

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Speaker 3: A critiqus genius.

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Speaker 2: And again we have the evidence that Trump endorsed it,

577
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Speaker 2: because he literally went to Mike Johnson, went down to Marlago,

578
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Speaker 2: did a joint press conference with Donald Trump where Trump

579
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Speaker 2: endorses on tape the so called loan idea.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a lesson.

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Speaker 8: They're talking about it, and we're thinking about making it

582
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Speaker 8: in the form of a loan instead of just a gift.

583
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Speaker 8: We keep handing out gifts of billions and billions of dollars,

584
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Speaker 8: and we'll take a look at it. But much more

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Speaker 8: importantly to me is the fact that Europe has to

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Speaker 8: step up and they have to give money. They have

587
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Speaker 8: to equalize. If they don't equalize, I'm very upset about

588
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Speaker 8: it because they're affected much more than we are. The

589
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Speaker 8: Ukraine situation would have never happened if ice president would

590
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Speaker 8: have never ever happened. And everybody says that, including Democrats,

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Speaker 8: that it happened to such an outrage people, millions of

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Speaker 8: people are dead right now, both sides. Millions of people

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Speaker 8: are dead.

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Speaker 2: People keep pointing to that as if it's some evidence

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Speaker 2: for why he's changed his position. No, okay, I agree

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Speaker 2: with him on Europe. It doesn't matter. That's not what

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Speaker 2: you said. What matters is that you endorse the loan. Now,

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Speaker 2: for example, Matt Gates and others were trying to claim

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Speaker 2: that what we're about to show you was a Trump

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Speaker 2: saying he was against the bill. Let's put this up

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Speaker 2: there on the screen. He says, why is in Europe

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Speaker 2: giving more money to help Ukraine? Why is it the

603
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Speaker 2: United States is over one hundred million dollars into the

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Speaker 2: war and we have an ocean between us in a separation.

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Speaker 2: Why can't Europe equalize? Blah blah blah blah blah. As

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Speaker 2: everyone agrees, Ukrainian survival and strength should be much more

607
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Speaker 2: important to Europe than us, but it is also important

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Speaker 2: to us.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it is also important to us. Now.

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Speaker 2: The only thing that he's even slightly critical of is

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Speaker 2: when he says, I am the only one who speaks

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Speaker 2: for me, and while it's a total mess caused by

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Speaker 2: crooked Joe Biden, blah blah blah, if I were president

614
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: of this war would have never started. That was because

615
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Speaker 2: Mike Johnson was going all over Washington saying, hey, if

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Speaker 2: you don't support this bill, then you're against President Trump.

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Speaker 3: But he didn't come out against the bill. So look,

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Speaker 3: let's be very clear.

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Speaker 2: Trump came out very clear, very very clearly against the

620
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Speaker 2: Border aid the border deal previously, and he killed it, right,

621
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Speaker 2: So he also came out against Faiza, and he killed that.

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Speaker 3: Whenever you killed the vote. He had the.

623
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Speaker 2: Full capacity to kill this bill if he wanted to,

624
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Speaker 2: and he didn't, which means he's responsible for letting this pass.

625
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Speaker 2: He endorsed it, and now he should bear the consequences,

626
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Speaker 2: just like Joe Biden does whenever and whenever he's president

627
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Speaker 2: to we should not expect anything else from him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and please spare me the whole Like Donald Trump

629
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Speaker 1: is the anti war candidate, bullshit, There is no anti

630
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Speaker 1: war candidate in terms of Biden and Trump or in

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Speaker 1: terms of RFK Junior. You could look at Jill Stein

632
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Speaker 1: Cornell West, but you know, likelihood is that they're going

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Speaker 1: to have a relatively minimal impact, you know, with regards

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Speaker 1: to the comments about Europe. Also Michael Tracy, who shout

635
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Speaker 1: out to him, He's always does a great job actually

636
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Speaker 1: reading through these bills and pulling out the important pieces

637
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Speaker 1: and you know, outlining some of these key bipartisan dynamics.

638
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Speaker 1: But you know, calling for Europe to spend more on

639
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Speaker 1: NATO or calling for Europe to spend more on Ukraine

640
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Speaker 1: isn't a position in favor of, you know, stepping away

641
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Speaker 1: from NATO or step away from Ukraine and trying to

642
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: bring that war to a close. It's a position in

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Speaker 1: favor of more funding. So he's not saying we don't

644
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Speaker 1: we shouldn't fund it, we should move forward. He's saying,

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Speaker 1: we obviously we're going to continue funding it. We just

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Speaker 1: want the Europeans to also fund it additional amounts. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, being hard on Europe is actually not consistent

648
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Speaker 1: with a position in favor of we need to be

649
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Speaker 1: looking for an offer, if we need to be looking

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Speaker 1: for some sort of a diplomatic conclusion to this. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I will with regard to Ukraine, I'll just

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Speaker 1: I'll never be over the fact that we undercut those

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Speaker 1: original diplomatic negotiations because now it is in nowheresville. You know,

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Speaker 1: now the deal that they would get would be far inferior.

655
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Speaker 1: You know, now there is no real negotiating leverage for

656
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Speaker 1: Putin and the Russia. At that point, they were on

657
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Speaker 1: the back foot. Things hadn't gone the way that they planned.

658
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Speaker 1: It didn't look good, so it would have been a

659
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Speaker 1: much stronger negotiating position. Now it's just an endless mess.

660
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Speaker 1: And that's the approach they're taking to it is, let's

661
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Speaker 1: just continue to fund this. We don't need a plan

662
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Speaker 1: to conclude it. We're just going to continue sending an

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Speaker 1: entire you know, multiple generations of Ukrainian men to the slaughter.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously, you know, with regard to Israel, it's

665
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Speaker 1: just a horror. It's just a horror. It's an indefensible horror.

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Speaker 1: The last thing I want to make sure to mention,

667
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Speaker 1: which it's incredible, This isn't even really in the show today,

668
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Speaker 1: but you know, this whole escalation with a run, which

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Speaker 1: I think was very intentionally timed as well, is part

670
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Speaker 1: of how the Israel Aid was able to sail through

671
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: as well, because guess what, you know, suddenly, because Israel

672
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Speaker 1: starts this provocation by assassinating top Iranian commanders at their

673
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Speaker 1: consulate building, which is you know, a dramatic contravention of

674
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Speaker 1: the Vienna Convention, international law, et cetera. They do that

675
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Speaker 1: Irat and response Israel's responding. Nothing gets the bipartisan consensus

676
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Speaker 1: going more quickly than one of the official bad guys nations,

677
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Speaker 1: you know, going after our big ally in the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: So when we're talking about that, we're not talking about

679
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Speaker 1: the suffering and gods, we're not talking about the World

680
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Speaker 1: Central Kitchen Aid workers who were just massacred. We're not

681
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Speaker 1: talking about the apparently imminent ground invasion of Rafa, which

682
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Speaker 1: we'll get to in just a bit. And so that's

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Speaker 1: also part of the cover that was provided that allows

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Speaker 1: this aid to sail through as well.

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Speaker 3: Yes, very well said.

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Speaker 1: So let's move on to some updates out of Israel.

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Speaker 1: So the US has claimed, especially under Joe Biden, that

688
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Speaker 1: we support a two state solution ultimately to the Israel

689
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Speaker 1: Palestine conflict. So you might think that they would be

690
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Speaker 1: in favor of a UN Security Council vote for Palestinian statehood.

691
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Speaker 3: You would be wrong.

692
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Speaker 1: The US vetoed Palestinian statehood recognition in the Security Council.

693
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Speaker 1: Let's seek a listen to how the State Department spins

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Speaker 1: these two very contradictory, apparently positions.

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Speaker 9: How are you guys going to vote so, Matt. Since

696
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Speaker 9: October seventh, we have been pretty clear that sustainable peace

697
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Speaker 9: in the region can only be achieved through a two

698
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Speaker 9: state solution with Israel's security guaranteed, and it remains our

699
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Speaker 9: view that the most expeditious path towards statehood for the

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Speaker 9: Palestinian people is through direct negotiations between Israel and the

701
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Speaker 9: Palestinian authority, with the support of the United States and

702
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Speaker 9: other partners who share this goal. We believe this approach

703
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Speaker 9: cantangibly advanced Palestinian goals in a meaningful and enduring way.

704
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Speaker 9: We also have been very clear consistently that premature actions

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Speaker 9: in New York, even with the best intentions, will not

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Speaker 9: achieve statehood for the Palestinian people. Additionally, as reflected in

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Speaker 9: the report of the Admission Committee, there was not unimidity

708
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Speaker 9: among the committee members as to whether the applicant met

709
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Speaker 9: the criteria of membership set forth in Article four of

710
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Speaker 9: the UN Charter. Specifically, there are unresolved questions as to

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Speaker 9: whether the applicants can meet criteria to be considered as

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Speaker 9: a state, and Matt, as you also know, We've long

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Speaker 9: called on the Palestine authority to undertake necessary reforms to

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Speaker 9: establish the attributes of readiness for statehood. And note that Hamas,

715
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Speaker 9: which is, as you all know, a terrorist organization, is

716
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Speaker 9: currently exerting power and influence in Gaza, which would be

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Speaker 9: an integral part of the envisioned state in this resolution,

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Speaker 9: and for that reason, the United States is voting no

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Speaker 9: on this proposed Security Council revolution. As an expert of

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Speaker 9: the UN, I will also I will also just so

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Speaker 9: note that, due to statutory requirements, such an admission of

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Speaker 9: statehood would also require the United States to cease its

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Speaker 9: funding to the United Nations.

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Speaker 1: So you gotta love that mon who says I just

725
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Speaker 1: googled expeditions how many years since Oslow. It's just such

726
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: a farce at this point and the way this went down,

727
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Speaker 1: so we vetoed this resolution. There were twelve who voted

728
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Speaker 1: in favor. The US was opposed alone by the way,

729
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Speaker 1: and there were two abstentions, UK and Switzerland. Notably US allies, France, Japan,

730
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Speaker 1: and South Korea all supported the resolution. Ken Klippenstein and

731
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Speaker 1: Daniel bogoslaw Over at the Intercept had some good reporting

732
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Speaker 1: about some of the diplomatic pressure that was being applied

733
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Speaker 1: in advance of this vote. Can put this up on

734
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Speaker 1: the screen. By the way, though it doesn't appear that

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Speaker 1: this diplomatic pressure was very successful, since there were no

736
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Speaker 1: other votes against, only two abstentions and a number of

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Speaker 1: US allies that actually voted in favor of Palestinian statehood.

738
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Speaker 1: The headline here leaked cables show White House opposes Palestinian

739
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Speaker 1: statehood despite Button's pledges supported two state solution. Cables argued

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Speaker 1: that Palestine should not be granted UN member status. They

741
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Speaker 1: put pressure in particular on Ecuador, which is the rotating

742
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Speaker 1: member on the UN Security Council, and they said in

743
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Speaker 1: language very similar to what you heard there from the

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Speaker 1: State Department.

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Speaker 3: Goal.

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Speaker 1: It remains the US view that the most expeditious path

747
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Speaker 1: toward a political horizon for the Palestinian people is in

748
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Speaker 1: the context of a normalization agreement between Israel and its neighbors.

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Speaker 1: We believe this approach can tangibly advanced Palestining goals in

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Speaker 1: a meaningful and enduring way. So expeditious approach, in spite

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Speaker 1: of the fact that this quote unquote expeditious approach has

752
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Speaker 1: been attempted for decades at this point with no conclusion.

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Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, very interesting, and this is part of

755
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Speaker 2: why the entire thing is ridiculous and why Matt Lee

756
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: really just underscored it. Where what is our policy for

757
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: this war and for this goverment. We keep saying that

758
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Speaker 2: the end result of this war has to be a

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Speaker 2: two state solution. It's like, well, okay, which one West

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Speaker 2: Bank is going to have a like the Palestinian authority,

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Speaker 2: which barely has any authority, They're going to be the

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Speaker 2: one who have representation in the United Nations. These people

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Speaker 2: if we are to give them a nation or to

764
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Speaker 2: recognize a nation, to recognize a false nation with a

765
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Speaker 2: false government that has no actual public support, in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: would be ten times worse. Like, if we're going to

767
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Speaker 2: do this, then we actually have to do it, and

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Speaker 2: it's obviously going to have to include Gaza as well,

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Speaker 2: and we will have to ensure actual security conditions and

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Speaker 2: some sort of public expression.

771
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Speaker 3: Otherwise this entire.

772
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Speaker 2: Thing is completely meaningless and it will fall apart and

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Speaker 2: we will have somewhat one Guido situation. Yeah, in Venezuela,

774
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Speaker 2: with nonsense that the United Nations.

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Speaker 1: Always puts the burden and the problems on the Palestinian

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Speaker 1: side when you have BB out there on the regular like,

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Speaker 1: I will make sure that we thwart ever having a

778
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Speaker 1: two state solution that somehow never gets mentioned in any

779
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: of this as the obstacles to peace in the situation.

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Speaker 1: We got some more news on the State Department. Let's

781
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Speaker 1: put this up on the screen. The US is going

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Speaker 1: to sanction one specific IDF unit for human rights violations

783
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Speaker 1: in the West Bank. This is pursuant to that we

784
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Speaker 1: covered this last week, this pro public report that Tony

785
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Speaker 1: Blincoln had been sitting with a report from the State

786
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Speaker 1: Department panel that is meant to look into human rights

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Speaker 1: abuses that found a number of IDF units and Israeli

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Speaker 1: police units that had engaged in horrific human rights violations torture, rape,

789
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Speaker 1: other abuses. And so I guess, under pressure, they've decided

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Speaker 1: to do this sort of really truly symbolic sanctioning of

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Speaker 1: this one unit. I'll read this to you. It says

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Speaker 1: US Secretary of State Tony Blincoln expected to within days

793
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Speaker 1: announce sanctions against the IDF's Netsa Yehuda battalion for human

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Speaker 1: rights violations in the occupied West Bank. Why it matters,

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Speaker 1: it would be the first time the US imposed sanctions

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Speaker 1: on Israeli military unit. They will ban the battalion's members

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Speaker 1: from receiving any kind of US military assistance or training.

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Speaker 1: And this particular battalion, they say, was formed as a

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Speaker 1: special unit for ultra orthodox soldiers. All of its members

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Speaker 1: are men, and it's kind of known for having a

801
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Speaker 1: lot of radicals involved. You've had a lot of the

802
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: quote unquote hilltop youth. These are these young, radical, right wing,

803
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Speaker 1: often violent settlers who weren't accepted into any other combat

804
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Speaker 1: unit in the IDF. They're in this battalion. One specific

805
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: incident that's been documented was the death of an eighty

806
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Speaker 1: year old Palestinian American Omar Asad, in January twenty twenty two.

807
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Speaker 1: He was arrested by Netsa Yehudah soldiers at a checkpoint

808
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Speaker 1: in his village in the West Bank late at night.

809
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Speaker 1: He refused to be checked, so soldiers handcuffed and gagged him,

810
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Speaker 1: an eighty year old, and left him on the ground

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Speaker 1: in the cold, and predictably he died. So, you know,

812
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Speaker 1: my read is that these sanctions are totally meaningless. It's

813
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Speaker 1: similar to the you know four Israeli settlers who were

814
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Speaker 1: sanctioned previously by the Biden Administration's attempt to sort of

815
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: like pretend like they're serious about violence against Palestinians. But

816
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Speaker 1: what kind of checks are in places? We're shipping billions

817
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Speaker 1: of dollars to Israel to make sure this battalion doesn't

818
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Speaker 1: benefit from any of it. Nevertheless, there's an all of

819
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: government freak out on the Israeli side about this tiniest

820
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Speaker 1: of sanctions for documented human rights abuses. Let's put this

821
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: up on the screen from Phoebe, he says, And this

822
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Speaker 1: is the Google Translate version, by the way, So if

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Speaker 1: there's any like slate mistranslations, that's why sanctions must not

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Speaker 1: be imposed on the IDF. In recent weeks, I've been

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Speaker 1: working against the imposition of sanctions on Israeli citizens, including

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Speaker 1: in my conversations with senior American government officials. At a

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Speaker 1: time when our soldiers are fighting the monsters of terror,

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Speaker 1: the intention to impose a sanction on a unit in

829
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Speaker 1: the IDF is the height of absurdity and a moral low.

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Speaker 1: The government, headed by me will act by all means

831
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Speaker 1: against these moves. There was also a statement from Benny Gantz.

832
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Speaker 1: Lest you think that they're not on the same page

833
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: on many things, they mostly are. So what do you

834
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Speaker 1: make of all that? Sager?

835
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I just think the entire thing is

836
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: ridiculous because we're trying to single out some unit in

837
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Speaker 2: the IDF based on or in the West Bank, which

838
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Speaker 2: is right, this is all.

839
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Speaker 3: The other problem is that we try and split apart.

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Speaker 2: GE's what I was talking about West Bank from Gaza

841
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Speaker 2: as if it's not the same military that's involved in

842
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 2: all this, and it's not all part of the same policy,

843
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: So what is the question, what are we going to do?

844
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Speaker 2: Do we actually And at the same time, I would

845
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: almost rather not do something like this because then it

846
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: just heightens the contradiction of sending billions of dollars to

847
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Speaker 2: the IDEF and through the Israeli military. If they're going

848
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Speaker 2: to only continue to fund said IDF unit and there's

849
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Speaker 2: no enforcement mechanism, then what is the point of this

850
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Speaker 2: entire thing?

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Speaker 3: It just views it. It makes it even more impotent

852
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Speaker 3: than previously.

853
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Speaker 2: If you give somebody money when you acknowledge that they're

854
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: a criminal, it's almost worse than just lying to everybody.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's a perfect way to pretend like the

856
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: problem is in a whole of government policy, that it's

857
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: a few bad apples, it's a few violent settlers, it's

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Speaker 1: this one particular battalion that has a lot of hilltop use,

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Speaker 1: rather than I mean, we saw the first of all,

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Speaker 1: you see the utter annihilation in Gaza. You see the

861
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Speaker 1: Where's Daddy software program looking to target families, children, women,

862
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: waiting for militants to go home before you target them.

863
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Speaker 1: We see the AI algorithmic generation. Overall, we see the

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Speaker 1: announcement of a complete siege, starving a population of millions,

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Speaker 1: in some cases to death. Okay, And then we pretend like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's these few bad apples and we're very concerned about it,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to sanction them. So it serves the

868
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Speaker 1: Biden administration's interest. Frankly, I think it also serves Bebe's interests.

869
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: I just we didn't just didn't make it in the

870
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: poll because there's so much other stuff to cover. But

871
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: apparently Bibe's political standing in Israel in the context of

872
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: post October seventh was number was stronger. Poll numbers are

873
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: coming up. You know, he's basically neck and neck now

874
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: with his primary opponent as previously he was losing in

875
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: a landslide, and I think that these little, you know,

876
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: pretend fights between him, just theatrical fights between him and Biden,

877
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: where he gets to stand tough and effectively humiliate Joe

878
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: Biden by the way, over and over and over again.

879
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: I think those have served his domestic political standing. So

880
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: congratulations everyone, Your little Kaboki theater here is working out

881
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: perfectly for the nt YAHOO government.

882
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: I think that bb and Zelenski are similar. Their only

883
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: authority to the eyes of the public is their ability

884
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: to builk the United States for billions. So as long

885
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 2: as they are able to continue to have the US

886
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: security establishment at fund your war, then your position as

887
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: like the grifter in charge is cemented. Now, if he

888
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: genuinely was failing in that regard, then yeah, you know,

889
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: people would be able to come against him. But he's

890
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: able very masterfully to play against America and also keep

891
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: the handout and take the dollars.

892
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: That's a very difficult balancing.

893
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: Act, one which he is on tape admitting he's very

894
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: good at saying what America is very easy I know

895
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: to who.

896
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: Can deny it?

897
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 3: He says it?

898
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: Who can deny it? Yeah? No, that's right.

899
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 3: He can.

900
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: On the one hand, you know, act all outraged on

901
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 1: Twitter about this like totally meaningless sanction reportedly being issued

902
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: by the State Department on the They're going to do

903
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: whatever the hell he wants, bomb American and American aid worker,

904
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: bomb is bomb Iran when we begged him reportedly not

905
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: to hospitals. Whatever. He can do whatever he wants, and

906
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: there's still you know, a whole of government effort here

907
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: to make sure that he gets his billions in whatever

908
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: he wants moving forward. Yes, so yeah, he's playing his

909
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: hand masterfully. And the Biden policy bear of bear hugging BBNT,

910
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: Yahoo has been such an object failure it is hard

911
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: to wrap your head around on every level. Every time

912
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: they set out like well, we don't want Israel to

913
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: do this, Israel does it, and then there's no accountability

914
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: and American lives are put more at risk and more

915
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: Gazan's house, that means of Gaza are completely slaughtered. So

916
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: just an utter and complete failure from the Biden administration.

917
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: It all just plays right into Bibi's hands. There was

918
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: an interesting report though that I wanted to share with

919
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: you guys. Make of it what you will, So put

920
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: this up on the screen. This is a report from

921
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: Times of Israel that the Prime Minister's Office PMO had

922
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: held an emergency debate amid fears that the ICC that's

923
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: the International Criminal Court at the Hague, could issue arrest

924
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: warrants for the Prime Minister and others over alleged crimes

925
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: in Gaza. This is based on a report on Israeli

926
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: Channel twelve, so it says they're increasingly worried about this.

927
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: Three ministers and several government legal experts heard this emergency

928
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: discussion on how they could potentially fend off the feared

929
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: imminent issuing of such arrest warrants. They are pointing to

930
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: some of the countries that have been very critical of

931
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: Israeli atrocities in Gaza's strip are sort of leading the

932
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 1: push here. Jerusalem is also try to apply pressure, whatever

933
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: diplomatic pressure they can, you know, under the radar, to

934
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: try to avoid this eventuality. And not only did they

935
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: and this was no worthy to meet again, according to

936
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: this Israeli TV report, Make of it what you will. Apparently,

937
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: he also raised this concern in his meetings last week

938
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: with Britain's Foreign Secretary David Cameron in Germany's foreign minister

939
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: and Aleeda bare Baka. Is that how you say that

940
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: we'll go let's go with it. Yeah, we'll go with that.

941
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: So it was a significant enough concern reportedly that he's

942
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: raising it with them. Now what does this mean. Listen,

943
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: It's not like the ICC can come to Israel and

944
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: arrest him, throw them and you know it and being

945
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: a dock in the Hague. But you know, it's another

946
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: step on the global parias status. It could be very

947
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: influential in terms of global opinion, makes them more difficult

948
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: for you know, the US enablers to support the things

949
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: that he's doing. And also it really constrains your freedom

950
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: because now you can't go to one of the countries

951
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: in the world where they, you know, do support the

952
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: ICC actions because you could actually get arrested if you

953
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: set foot in one of those countries.

954
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean no, that's the actually the biggest I mean,

955
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: there's there's a couple of ways, and look at this

956
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: is one is like, do I think he's actually gonna

957
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 2: get arrested.

958
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 3: No, but does it at least put pressure on the government. Yes.

959
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: The other option is that we will just see the ICC,

960
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: you know, signatory fall apart because you would travel to

961
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: a party nation and they won't comply with it.

962
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 3: We'll see, you know exactly how that all plays out.

963
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: But regardless, again, this is just a core theme of

964
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: like all of our discussion, is that in the interim,

965
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 2: things are going in Israel's way, but in the long term,

966
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: twenty thirty years from now, there certainly are not.

967
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: And this is another example. Don't even take my word

968
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 3: for it.

969
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: You've all knowah Harari, who I've got some issues with,

970
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: but he wrote the famous book Sapiens. He's the Israeli

971
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: not really a scientist. Whatever we can it's a separate conversation.

972
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: He wrote an excellent piece. I recommend everybody go and

973
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: read in Heartz where he makes this exact same point,

974
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 2: because he himself is kind of a chief arch globalist.

975
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: And he's like, we have a real problem.

976
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: We have delegitimized ourselves in the eyes of the entire world,

977
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: and for decades now we will have problems both diplomatically

978
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: for our citizens as they continue and think about living abroad.

979
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: And you know, any idea of legitimacy in the eyes

980
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 2: of the world has significantly gone down.

981
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: And that's just not something that you really move away from.

982
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: And I think this is just like tip of the

983
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 2: iceberg on that broader problem. Regardless of whether it's enforcement

984
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: or not, it almost doesn't matter, you know, for the

985
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: future of what future treat future free trade agreements look like,

986
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: reciprocal tourism, willingness to do business, willingness to receive a

987
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: prime minister, and popularly those things honestly matter even more

988
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: to a certain extent for the future of Israel and

989
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 2: for the nation.

990
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: Look at the way young generations of America.

991
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, I've changed everything.

992
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to it's not going back, right, Millennials,

993
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: gen z, they're not going to view this the same

994
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: way that boomers and silent gen did. It's done. I

995
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: mean that's we're covering the freak out over these Columbia

996
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: protests and what the hell's going on there. The real

997
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: story on those protests is just how overwhelming the sentiment

998
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: among young people is against arming Israel, against you know,

999
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: their their view and mind. And the ICJ finds it

1000
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: plausible that they're committing genocide with our tax dollars, by

1001
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: the way, helping to fund the weapons that are, you know,

1002
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: two thousand pound bombs being dropped on refugee camps, etc.

1003
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: People don't forget this is a formative political experience for

1004
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: really millions of young Americans. So in terms of future generations,

1005
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any put in that toothpaste back

1006
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: in the tube. But unfortunately that takes a long time

1007
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 1: to come to fruition. In the meantime, you can see

1008
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: from the numbers in the house how slowly things actually change.

1009
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 1: At the same time, we really have our eyes on Rafa,

1010
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: the threatened ground invasion there. It seems like there are

1011
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: some indications this may be more imminent, including a strike

1012
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: multiple strikes there. Let's put this up on the screen.

1013
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: That happened just a day or so ago. Israeli strikes

1014
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: on southern Gaza city of Rafa killed twenty two, mostly children.

1015
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: As they add US advances AID package. I think that's

1016
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: noteworthy that they include that in the headline and important

1017
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: they include that in the headline. So out of these

1018
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: twenty two people who were killed by the IDF in Rava,

1019
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: eighteen children, three women, one man. Eighteen children, three women

1020
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: and one man. One of the women who was killed

1021
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: was pregnant. She was killed. They were able to open

1022
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: her up and save the baby, thank god, who is

1023
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: now orphaned at birth. Horrifying situation. And Bibi has been

1024
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: sort of promising that this Rapha invasion is imminent. He said, cryptically,

1025
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: quote in the coming days, we will increase the political

1026
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: and military pressure on Hamas because this is the only

1027
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 1: way to bring back our hostages and a chief victory.

1028
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: Of course, the only way they've actually brought back hostages

1029
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: was through ceasefire agreement. But never you mind that. He

1030
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 1: goes on to say we will land more and painful

1031
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: blows on Hamas soon, but did not give further details

1032
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: about what that meant. And that's noteworthy, of course, saw

1033
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: because he's been saying, oh, in order to finish the

1034
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: job with Hamas, they're all down in Rafa now, so

1035
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: we have to we have to do this ground invasion

1036
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: of raf Warri of over a million Palestinian sheltering right now,

1037
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: including obviously many women and children, because that's where Hamas is.

1038
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: So when he says we will land more and painful

1039
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: blows on Hamas soon, it seems to be a reference

1040
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: to an imminent ground invasion in Rafa.

1041
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: It's very possible, and something that you brought up, but

1042
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 2: I want to spend a lot of time on here

1043
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: is this corrupt bargain being reported by the Israeli press.

1044
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: Let's go and put this up there on the screen, please,

1045
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 2: where the Times of Israel reports very out in the

1046
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: open that the US has agreed to Israel's plan for

1047
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 2: Rafa in return for not carrying out a large Iran strike.

1048
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 3: So what they basically have bargained with US.

1049
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: Is, hey, we won't have a huge retalia historic retaliatory

1050
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 2: strike on Iran which would draw you in if you

1051
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: green light at least tacitly our Israeli invasion of Rossa. Now,

1052
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 2: the way that we know this is from Egyptian officials

1053
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 2: who are telling news outlets to the quote the US

1054
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 2: has accepted that plan for an operation in southern Gaza

1055
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: in return for not carrying out that larger strike. Now,

1056
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 2: the reason why this is so important is we are

1057
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 2: watching the weaponization here again of the US political system

1058
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 2: and it's rapid desire to go to war for Israel,

1059
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: where they are like, hey, we won't drag us into

1060
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: a broader war over here if you let us do

1061
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 2: whatever we want over here. And I don't think that

1062
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,479
Speaker 2: these air strikes are an accident, and it actually very

1063
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: elegantly solves a problem for beeB to be able to

1064
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: get around that. But think again about what the blackmail

1065
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 2: is is that what they have on their side is always,

1066
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: at any moment, at any time of our choosing, we

1067
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: can glow blow up an embassy wherever we want, ratchet

1068
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: things up over here, which will require you to defend

1069
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 2: us as long as we continue to get to do

1070
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: whatever we want over here in Gaza. And that belies

1071
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 2: the fact that whatever happens here in Gaza has bleed

1072
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 2: on effects over here, as we have already watched the

1073
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 2: resumption of Iranian proxy strikes on US military basis that

1074
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 2: have happened now after that.

1075
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 3: So again American troops.

1076
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: Are the ones who pay the cost, as well as

1077
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: of course Palestinian civilians.

1078
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. I mean, this was Palestinian civilians being

1079
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: held hostage and being sacrificed in the end to reportedly

1080
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: keep Israel from doing a larger strike on Iran. And again,

1081
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Speaker 1: according to reports, the Biden people begged bebe not to

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Speaker 1: do any response to Iran. You know, they were saying, listen,

1083
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 1: take the win. We shut down all their stuff nothing

1084
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: really happened with regard to their retaliatory attacks here, so

1085
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 1: just take that win and let's move on. So they

1086
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: weren't able to succeed with that, they're obviously not willing

1087
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 1: to use actual leverage to change Israeli behavior, So according

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00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: to this report, they've decided to sacrifice the Palestinians in

1089
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: Rafa in spite of the fact that this has been

1090
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: a long time. You know, Biden even used at one

1091
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 1: point the red line with regard to Rafa, but doesn't

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00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: seem to be a red line any longer. And I

1093
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: don't think any of us should be surprised if we

1094
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: see this attack move forward relatively swiftly. Just to give

1095
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: you another sense of how untenable the US position here

1096
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: is and all of the Biden administration's supposed concerns for

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00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: human rights. Pretty remarkable exchange here where a State Department

1098
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: spokesperson really doesn't want to answer a question about whether

1099
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: the Geneva Conventions apply to Israel, does his darnedest to

1100
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: try to avoid giving a direct answer to what should

1101
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: be a very simple question that he was asked with seamlessness.

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00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 4: You're a med monitor. Human Rights monitor reports that Israel

1103
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 4: is using drones to lure residents and then shoot them.

1104
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 4: They explain the sounds of women screaming in babies crying

1105
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 4: were heard late at night on both Sunday and Monday.

1106
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 4: When some of the residents went out to investigate and

1107
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 4: tried to help, they were shot at by Israeli quadruple

1108
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 4: quad copter drones. The sounds that they heard were in

1109
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 4: fact recordings played by the Israeli drones with the intent

1110
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 4: of forcing the camp residents out into the streets where

1111
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 4: they could be easily targeted by snipers.

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Speaker 9: I've not seen that report, Sam, so I'm not gonna

1113
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 9: comment on it, but broadly not relating to this particular

1114
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 9: circumstance at all, because again I haven't seen the report

1115
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 9: and I'm not sure if it's accurate or verifiable. At

1116
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 9: every conversation that we have with our partners in Israel,

1117
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 9: we continue to stress the moral and strategic comparative that

1118
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 9: they have to work on deconfliction mechanisms and to ensure

1119
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 9: that civilian harm is minimized in every which way possible,

1120
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Speaker 9: and we'll continue to stress that every way we can.

1121
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 4: Will you look at this report, I'm.

1122
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 9: Sure we'll look at this report, Sam, I don't have

1123
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 9: any comment for it on it?

1124
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 10: Right now?

1125
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 4: Do you recognize the Geneva Conventions as apply.

1126
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 3: I've answer your questions.

1127
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 11: Now you have evaded it and your colleague deceitfully responded

1128
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 11: to it. Could go to Geneva Conventions. It's a simple question.

1129
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 11: Do you recognize the Geneva Conventions of applying to Gaza?

1130
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 9: When you interrupt me, that's not it's not no matter

1131
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 9: of you. I'm not going to simple take additional questions

1132
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 9: a simple question.

1133
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 10: Show ahead.

1134
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 9: You got two questions.

1135
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 4: I totally contra No, I didn't get to.

1136
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 3: You, did you?

1137
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 10: You?

1138
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,959
Speaker 9: You asked a question about your report and you asked

1139
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 9: to follow up.

1140
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 3: Please go ahead, and you're refusing to answer it.

1141
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 11: Go ahead to do the Geneva Conventions apply to Gaza

1142
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 11: or not everywhere on the planet except for the Palestinians.

1143
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 10: Isn't that right? Me?

1144
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 9: I continue to stress everywhere and everywhere that international and

1145
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 9: humanitarian law needs to be abided by and respected going.

1146
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 11: The Geneva Conventions apply.

1147
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 9: You are now interrupting your colleague.

1148
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:42,479
Speaker 12: Go ahead.

1149
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 11: I'm interrupting you. I'm not interrupting you. I'm insisting on

1150
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 11: an answer to a critical question.

1151
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: Go ahead doesn't want to answer the question. It's very

1152
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: very testy there in reply. And yeah, and also with

1153
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: regard to the original report, which is disgusting if you

1154
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 1: think about it, like playing sounds of crying babies and

1155
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: and when people rush out to try to help this,

1156
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: you know what they think is a struggling child or infant.

1157
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: Then you know, using that to lure them out and

1158
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: kill them is like, that's horrifying. The last thing we

1159
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: wanted to share with you is that some of the

1160
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: tenor of the discourse in our in the Gray, our

1161
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: great Israeli allies, the way that the their assault on

1162
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: Gaza is being discussed. I don't know if you guys

1163
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: saw this. There was a picture of Palestinians on the

1164
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: beach in Gaza that created this whole freak out on

1165
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: the Israeli right. There was a discussion about this on

1166
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: Israeli television and quite a reaction to it. Let's take

1167
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: a look at this, and I'll read over the subtitles

1168
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: here since this is in Hebrew, gut and put it

1169
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: up on the screen, and I say, these people there

1170
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: deserve death, a hard death and agonizing death, and instead

1171
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: we see them enjoying on the beach, having fun. He

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00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: goes on these people. There are no innocent people there

1173
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: in the gaza strip none. They voted for hamas, they

1174
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: want Hamas, they celebrated, They hand it out candies, some

1175
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: of them spat at the body, some of them took

1176
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: selfies with our abductees. There are no innocence there. And

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Speaker 1: the fact they're now enjoying the beach instead of starving,

1178
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Speaker 1: instead of being jerked around, instead of being severely tormented,

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Speaker 1: instead of hiding from shelling, they are enjoying the beach.

1180
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: We should have seen a lot more revenge, a lot

1181
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Speaker 1: more rivers of Gossen's blood. That is the commentary on

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Speaker 1: Israeli television, right, but please, let's let's talk more about

1183
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: a student protester. What a nineteen year old might have

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00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: or might not have said at a college protest.

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00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1186
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: At the same time, Trump's trial kicks off today, and

1187
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 2: there were some very dramatic occurrings. I guess that happened

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00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: on Friday when a man actually self immolated outside of

1189
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Speaker 2: the courthouse.

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Speaker 3: It was actually caught live.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to show you images of the self

1192
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: immolation itself, but there are were some reporters on the scene,

1193
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: and this is what it was described like by them.

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00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 3: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 12: What do you say. We also are seeing active shooter

1196
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 12: and active shooters in the park outside of the court.

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Speaker 12: We have seen an arm that has been visible that

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00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 12: has been engulfed in total flames.

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Speaker 1: There is chaos that is happening.

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01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 12: People are wondering right now if people are in danger.

1201
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm looking across the court.

1202
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Speaker 12: Across the courtyard there is a man racing to his aid.

1203
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 12: There's codes coming off to try to put out the fire.

1204
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 12: We have members of security details. NYPD is rushing to

1205
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 12: the scene. They are trying to come now. Officers are

1206
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 12: on the scene. A fire extinguisher is right now present

1207
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 12: being put on this man to try to put out.

1208
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 12: People are climbing over barricade to try to separate the

1209
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 12: public to put out the flame on this man.

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01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: He had let himself out in fire.

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Speaker 2: That was the initial reaction. Obviously it was not an

1212
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 2: active shooter. It was a protester. Appears he's put out

1213
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 2: a manifesto, et cetera. It appears to be a sad

1214
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: and horrible case of mental illness. And it's often people

1215
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: you know schizophrenia and others attracted to certain scenarios like this,

1216
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: he wanted to start quote unquote a revolution and decided

1217
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: to self emilate himself outside of the trial. But anything

1218
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 2: you want to say on that, Crystal before we move.

1219
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: On, Yeah, I mean, I just he did ultimately succumb

1220
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: to his wounds from self emilation. That reporting on him

1221
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: is that he had been prone to some sort of

1222
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: fringe or conspiratorial beliefs, and then his mother passed, and

1223
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: according to the people who are around him, that was

1224
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: really sort of a breaking point. So there was, you know,

1225
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: immediate speculation always this about he's protesting Trump's you know,

1226
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: legal issues or whatever. It appears to have had nothing

1227
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: to do with Trump, Peter Thiel, Crypto, Jeffrey Epstein, a

1228
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: lot of things were mentioned in the sub stack, but

1229
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: Trump was not central to it. So it appears to

1230
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: have been an incredibly tragic instance of mental illness.

1231
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 3: Yes, it's tragic, trying to get attention, et cetera.

1232
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 2: But of course that does not obscure the fact that

1233
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 2: there is that trial that is happening today significant and

1234
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 2: let's actually go through some of it. We now, the

1235
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 2: entire jury has been seated for the trial. Let's go

1236
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 2: and put this up there on the screen. New York

1237
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: Times says, will a mountain of evidence be enough to

1238
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: convict Trump? We're going to have the opening statements today

1239
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 2: in the people of the State of New York versus

1240
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 2: Donald J. Trump, and the case quote seems strong, but

1241
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 2: a conviction is far from assured. Some of the witnesses

1242
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 2: are actually very important here. One of them is David Pecker,

1243
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: who some of you might remember from the Stormy Daniels days.

1244
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 2: David Pecker was the quote tabloid publisher who had buried

1245
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 2: the damaging stories about Trump, the so called pay for

1246
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: play scheme where catch and kill, where they would buy

1247
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 2: incriminating stories on behalf of Trump and then keep them

1248
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: in the vault under an NBA before then reporting it.

1249
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 2: Other witnesses in the case will include Hope Hicks, the

1250
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: spokesperson who tried to spin around this, a witness again

1251
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 2: for the prosecution, and then of course Michael Cohen, who

1252
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: has already pled guilty and actually served time in prison

1253
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 2: specifically around this charge, but on the federal charge which

1254
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 2: Trump was never indicted for. So three of those witnesses

1255
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 2: very likely to back up the state's case in terms

1256
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 2: of will it be enough to convict him. Conviction is

1257
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: going to go on whether they agree with this novel

1258
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 2: interpretation of the case and in terms of the law,

1259
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: in terms of statute of limitations, but also in terms

1260
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 2: of how they view the central charge around whether it's

1261
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 2: campaign finance fraud or whether it was a personal one

1262
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 2: or not. And this is, of course, Crystal been the

1263
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 2: very beginning from the beginning around this case. Why eventually

1264
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: the FEDS decided not to charge Trump, which said charge

1265
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 2: around this because they thought they could plausibly not argue,

1266
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 2: at least in a jury to convict Trump on the

1267
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 2: campaign finance fees in particular, which amounts to accounting fraud

1268
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 2: in terms of why the state is involved.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So just as a reminder, there won't be cameras

1270
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: in the courtroom, so this all be you know, after

1271
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: the day's events are concluded, we'll kind of get a

1272
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: synopsis of whatever was said, who testified, what happened, what

1273
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: was that in the opening arguments, etc. It is noteworthy

1274
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: that you got David Pecker and Hope Hicks who are testifying,

1275
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: so they won't have to wholly rely on the testimony

1276
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: of Michael Cohen, who was you know, convicted liars. He

1277
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: is not the most reliable witness, and that is one

1278
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: of the things that the Trump team are certainly going

1279
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: to you know, pursue and talk about. Is there's this

1280
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: one key moment where Cohen claims that he and Trump

1281
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: were in dialogue in the White House and Trump was

1282
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: talking about these payments. Because this is one of the

1283
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: things that they'll try to claim is like basically he

1284
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: had no idea that any of this was going on.

1285
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting not only to see how that

1286
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: you know, that direct like he said, he said, peace

1287
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: plays now, but what additional information picks who was you know,

1288
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: for those of you who don't recall, who was omnipresent,

1289
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: who was in a lot of key meetings, who had

1290
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: a lot of time with Trump and also a long

1291
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: history with him even pre dating you know, her time

1292
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: in the White House. And David Packard now Packer who

1293
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: was the tabloid publisher National Choir and also had a

1294
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: long history with Trump. He is able to testify not

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Speaker 1: just to this Stormy Daniel's hush money situation, but to

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Speaker 1: a couple other stories that he helped Trump to quote

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Speaker 1: unquote catch and kill, so the idea being there was

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Speaker 1: another this playboy model Susan McDougall, who claims she had

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Speaker 1: an affair with Trump. He purchased her story and then

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Speaker 1: didn't run it. The other one was this doorman at

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Speaker 1: the Trump Tower building who claimed this is apparently not true,

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Speaker 1: but who had claimed that Trump had a mistress and

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01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: had the mistress that had an abortion. Pecker had also

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01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: purchased and buried that story as well. Now with Doormy Daniels,

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Speaker 1: he didn't do that because she was asking for too

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Speaker 1: much money. But then he works this is all the

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01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,479
Speaker 1: allegations right, and the Trump's team, they'll have their say.

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01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: But he works with Michael Cohen to figure out this

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01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: workaround to get this story hushed up, even though the

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Speaker 1: price was too steep for him to be able to

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Speaker 1: do with the national enquir So that's sort of like

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Speaker 1: the heart of this, you know. On the one hand,

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Speaker 1: in terms of the jury, it's Manhattan. Not a lot

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01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: of Trump love in Manhattan. On the other hand, you

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01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: had a couple of these jurors who were ultimately selected,

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01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: who said at least a few sort of like more

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01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: or less favorable things about Trump, who weren't just out

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01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: and out Trump Peters, and you know he only has

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01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: to get one person one right on his side to

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Speaker 1: prevail here in what would be a very very significant win.

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Speaker 1: So those are kind of the contoences.

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Speaker 3: In the case. I can say, or can you imagine

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Speaker 3: if it's a hung jury or if you win.

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Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's very possible.

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Speaker 3: I think too.

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Speaker 2: But the media freak out on that is going to

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01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 2: be unbelievable. Let's go and put this up there on

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Speaker 2: the screen. Because there was some discussion previously about the jurors.

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Speaker 2: Two jurors were actually dismissed in a trial before they

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01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 2: eventually all twelve were seated. It appears that some of

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01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 2: the jurors were dismissed prospective jurors because of critical social

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01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 2: media posts about Trump. But the eighteen people who have

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01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 2: selected have decided and have said that they will decide

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Speaker 2: the case based quote, purely.

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Speaker 3: On the facts.

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01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 2: Some of them two of them actually expressed positive feelings

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01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 2: about the former press that are on the jury. Two

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Speaker 2: of those who were dismissed one There was a lot

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01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 2: of attention around this which we previously had where a

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01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 2: juror with profile was described by Fox News and by

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01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 2: other media outlets, and she was approached and she was like,

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01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 2: people were asking whether it was her who was on

1343
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 2: the jury, and she asked to be taken off. And

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01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 2: other jurors as well had expressed some feelings around that.

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01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 2: It was just funny, though, Crystal, because Fox and Jesse

1346
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 2: Waters in particular was getting to blame. But if you

1347
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 2: went and you looked like you could basically if you

1348
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 2: know these people, you could guess it. Because ABC, the

1349
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: New York Times and others had written similar write ups.

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Speaker 3: Of all of the jurors who were involved.

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01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 2: I will say I don't know how I feel about

1352
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 2: that in terms of recording another because I'm like, Okay,

1353
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 2: well if the entire if we're not going to release

1354
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 2: their names.

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Speaker 3: But just like for me, it's like, well, an Indian

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01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 3: guy who wears glasses, who those are? YouTube? Oh, I

1357
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 3: wonder who it is? Former White House correspondent.

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Speaker 2: You know, It's it's like either keep it secret or don't,

1359
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: but don't try and play this weird mid gram middle

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01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:57,919
Speaker 2: ground where we are right now.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, I think you could have lease like

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01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,439
Speaker 1: they had in there what their news preferences were, which

1363
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: I thought was interesting the comments they made about Trump

1364
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: and how they felt about him. That was interesting. But yeah,

1365
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: you probably didn't need like the they're a nurse, How

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01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: is that really? I don't blame maybe even like the

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01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: toplight like okay it's a female, fine, but drilling down

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01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: into a lot of those details.

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Speaker 3: I will say this, I don't blame the media.

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01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 2: I think that if the law is going to allow

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Speaker 2: all of this to be published, then fine.

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Speaker 3: I don't actually blame them at all.

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01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's up to the

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01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 2: court to keep whatever it's people safe or not. But

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Speaker 2: if the court is going to have rules like secrecy

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01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: and all that, then they should at least write them

1377
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 2: in a way that makes sense. I will never blame

1378
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,839
Speaker 2: reporters or journalists from putting out fullsome amount of information

1379
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 2: because I figure that I think that's what they should do.

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Speaker 1: I will say, in the instance of Jesse Waters and

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01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: there was a whole right wing conspiracy that these were

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01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: like intentional, like lib activists were sneaking onto the jury,

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Speaker 1: which I think there is no evidence to support that

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Speaker 1: in particular, but I I feel bad for these jurors,

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01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 1: like whether they're public now or not, Like it's very

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01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: likely to come out who these individuals are. They're going

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01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: to be the center of a firestorm the likes of

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Speaker 1: which they probably can't even imagine. That few people really

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Speaker 1: could imagine. It's going to be an absolute circus. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll see how, we'll see how it all unfolds. Uh.

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Speaker 1: With one more piece that I'll let you coo up.

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Speaker 1: But I just do want to say on the political note, Yeah,

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01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: I know we're so used to thinking that nothing matters

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Speaker 1: for Trump. These are old allocations. As you say, it's

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01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: all baked in, and I think those are all like

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01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: totally fair and legitimate points. But you do see his

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01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: poll numbers right now slipping a bit. You see Biden

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01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: now and a lot of national averages has claimed like

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Speaker 1: a one point leads. Approval ratings stick up a little

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01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 1: tiny bit. How people are saying they feel about him

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01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: on the issues versus Trump, He's doing a little bit better.

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01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: And I do think part of what is dragging Trump

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Speaker 1: down right now is just him being in the media

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01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: now and it being in the context of legal tr

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01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: such as this case. And we also should remember when

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01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: the first details of this emerged, like people really found

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01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: it pretty gross even ones who said it may not

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Speaker 1: be illegal, but it's certainly wrong. So having those details

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01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: day after day in the news, I think that there's

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01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 1: some cope on the Trump right of saying, like, oh,

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01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: this persecution is going to guarantee him the elections. I

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01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 1: think that's crazy. Like bost of the country does not

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01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: view these things the way that the Republican base does.

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01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt that the criminal prosecutions

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01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 1: helped him in the context of a Republican primary. In

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01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: the context of a general election, it's a whole different ballgame.

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01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: So maybe it's a net neutral, maybe it doesn't change anything.

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01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: But I do not think that this is going to

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01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: be a net win for Donald Trump the way that

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01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: some of his supporters claim that it will be.

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01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it will be. Oh, I think

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01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 2: it would be a win for him amongst his base.

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Speaker 2: I think any prosecution on terms of the public I

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01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: think this one basically out and I think the others

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01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 2: could be a lot more significant.

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Speaker 3: Nonetheless, you know.

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01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,799
Speaker 2: Why it's most important is because the judglar is threatening

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01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 2: the throne in jail if he's not there, you know,

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01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 2: in person. But we'll see whether any of that even materializes.

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01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 2: We would be remiss if we didn't play some liberal

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01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 2: fan fiction which has been making the rounds about what

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01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 2: is it diaper don?

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Speaker 3: Is that the conspiracy right?

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01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 2: That's what they're claiming, so me might as touch, which

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01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 2: was that it's that liberal organization that put out all

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01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 2: those clips of Joe Rogan. They have reporters, sources, according

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01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: to them, who are inside the courtroom who claim that

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01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:38,879
Speaker 2: Trump's flatulence is out of control inside the court according

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Speaker 2: to their well placed individuals.

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Speaker 13: Let's take a listen, and I'm hearing from credible sources

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01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 13: who know what's going on in the courtroom. And what

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01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 13: I'm hearing is is that take it for what it's worth,

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01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 13: but that Donald Trump is actually farting in the courtroom,

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01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 13: and that it's very stinky around him, it's future and

1445
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 13: odor in the courtroom, and that Trump's lawyers are like

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01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 13: repulsed by the scent and the smell. And I'm not

1447
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 13: I'm not just saying that to be like, oh funny, funny.

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01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 13: I'm actually, you know, we have good sources there and

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01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 13: I'm hearing it from actual credible people that as he's

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01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 13: kind of falling asleep, he is actually passing gas and

1451
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 13: that his lawyers are really struggling with the smell.

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01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 2: His lawyers are really struggling with the smell he's got.

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01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 2: These are credible, credible reports.

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01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:33,919
Speaker 1: I love the sources personally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is the This is also and look

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01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 2: we're not chair picking that clip when I saw had

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01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 2: somewhere around nine million views on Twitter and had been

1458
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 2: retweeted some eleven to twelve thousand times, and of course

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01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 2: like made the rounds across what does these like occupy

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01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:55,799
Speaker 2: Republicans or you know, all these things like Facebook boomer pages.

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01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 2: So the boomers are eating this one up. They are

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Speaker 2: really enjoying the idea of flat or diaper god.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I support this resistance lib conspiracy personally.

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01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it is relatively harmless. It is amusing, I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you that.

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01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is what is capturing the minds, and

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01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,560
Speaker 2: there will only be even more of this type of

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Speaker 2: fan fiction that make the rounds some more that he finds.

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Speaker 1: We don't know, it's not true.

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Speaker 3: That's true, it's not true. It's got in credible.

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Speaker 1: Sources, and we might just that. Let's turn to some

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Speaker 1: slightly more significant news here. We had a huge victory

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Speaker 1: for the United Auto Workers specifically, but the labor movement

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Speaker 1: in general. Coming out of this Volkswagon plant in Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: So this was the third time that workers at this

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01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 1: plant had attempted to unionize, this time with the landscape

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Speaker 1: quite a bit different and quite a bit more pro union,

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01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: the workers prevailed in historic fashion. Let's start off by

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01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: taking a listen to what some of the workers had

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01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: to say in their own words courtesy of more Perfect Union.

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01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 9: Ye so now I was made the count.

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01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 12: Are you out?

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01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 3: Yea yea yea yea yes.

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01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 14: You know, many of the talking heads and abundits have

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01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 14: said to me repeatedly before we announced this campaign, you

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Speaker 14: can't win in the South, said, Southern workers aren't ready

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Speaker 14: for it. They said, no, you auto Workers didn't.

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Speaker 10: Have it hit up.

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01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 4: But you all said watch that.

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01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: That last person you're listening to there Sean Fame, the

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Speaker 1: new president of the United Auto Workers, who has made

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Speaker 1: an aggressive push non lean Ta Campbell stance, going out

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01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: on strike with regard to the Big Three contract negotiations.

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01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: But in the wake of that victory, saying listen, we're

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01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: going to organize the South. We're going to go after

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01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: foreign automakers. This is basically not happened successfully before in

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Speaker 1: American history, and so far it's looking pretty good for them.

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Speaker 1: Let's go and put the next piece up on the screen.

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Speaker 1: Was not even close. Seventy three percent voted yes, twenty

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01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 1: seven percent voted no. And again keep in mind, this

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Speaker 1: is a plant that had voted twice before in twenty seventeen,

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01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: I believe, in twenty nineteen, and had rejected unionization. Now,

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01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:42,480
Speaker 1: with the wins that you saw, you know, Starbucks, Teamsters,

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01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: UAW with a more favorable climate amongst the public in

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01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 1: favor of unions, with a more favorable National Labor Relations Board,

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01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 1: this time the result is totally different. And the next up,

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Speaker 1: they have a vote in mid May down in Alabama

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Speaker 1: at a Mercedes plant that apparently they feel good about too.

1509
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 1: So it's astonishing, Sager, not just that.

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01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 2: So not only do they have seventy three percent who

1511
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 2: cast in favor, but they had eighty four percent voter

1512
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 2: participations of the eighty four percent of the forty three

1513
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 2: hundred eligible workers in the plant actually participated. This is

1514
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 2: the first vote in the South, they're saying, the first

1515
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 2: time a Southern auto plant outside the three Detroit automakers

1516
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 2: has ever been organized by UAW. This of course makes

1517
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 2: sense because we have Volkswagen, BMW, Toyota and all this

1518
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 2: with a blanketed across the American South with a lot

1519
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 2: of manufacturing jobs and cars that have been strategically placed

1520
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 2: there because of right to work laws. Now, the question

1521
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,839
Speaker 2: is about how that's going to change from this point forward.

1522
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 2: What they the Wall Street Journal even talks here about

1523
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 2: that there's less than four hundred thousand workers last year

1524
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 2: who are inside UAW. That is seventy five percent less

1525
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 2: than where they were in the nineteen seventies. So for

1526
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 2: them to have wins like this that grow for the

1527
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: future actually sets up that we're probably at the low

1528
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 2: point of US union membership than ever before and likely

1529
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 2: to go up. And one of the reasons is fun

1530
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 2: at least to cover this story. This might be the

1531
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 2: only rare piece of good news in our entire show,

1532
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 2: So we absolutely wanted to include it.

1533
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no doubt about it. And yeah, you can

1534
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 1: see the way the historic winds have changed, Like there's

1535
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: a huge backlash now against you know, we saw in

1536
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 1: COVID how these companies were screw workers over, they were

1537
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: risking their lives, they were making money hand over fist.

1538
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: They continue to make record breaking profits and not pass

1539
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: it on to consumers, let alone their workers continue to

1540
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 1: you know, corporate price gouging, et cetera. And people are

1541
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 1: through with it to the extent that even on a

1542
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 1: state like Tennessee where the politician, the political class there

1543
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 1: was overwhelmingly hostile to unions, you had a bunch of

1544
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: Southern governors come out against this union drive. They've been

1545
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: threatened with all, they're going to close the plant, et cetera,

1546
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 1: et cetera. Those things just don't matter. And then you know,

1547
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: you also just have this momentum. Now that's so important

1548
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: because previously when workers saw just you know, concessionary contract,

1549
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 1: union loss after union loss, and the union based shrinking

1550
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: and shrinking and shrinking, it wasn't very compelling to join.

1551
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 1: And you know, when you see what the big three

1552
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: workers are getting there, like I do this same job,

1553
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 1: why the hell shouldn't I be getting the same type

1554
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: of pay, the same type of benefits, and have that

1555
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: similar type of life. So we'll see what happens in

1556
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 1: Alabama next. And speaking to that, you know, that momentum

1557
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,879
Speaker 1: and this sense of solidarity across not just the auto industry,

1558
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: but a bunch of different you know, variety of industries,

1559
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,839
Speaker 1: white collar, blue collar, service sector, et cetera. One worker

1560
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 1: said he was actually inspired by the writer's strike, which

1561
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: we thought was kind of interesting. Let's take a listen

1562
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 1: to that.

1563
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 15: We like when all the labor strikes first, you know,

1564
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 15: like the like the writers and stuff like that.

1565
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 10: Like I was a communications.

1566
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 15: Major in college, and so seeing the writers go on

1567
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 15: strike and standing after their rights, that was I was

1568
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 15: so excited about that. And then seeing there's a part

1569
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 15: of us that when we be talking about this just

1570
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 15: secretly in the back of our minders, like man, I

1571
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 15: wonder if I wonder if auto workers, if we're going

1572
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 15: to start seeing something like that.

1573
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: Here you can see the way these things have a

1574
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 1: momentum of their own, and I think it's, you know,

1575
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: the horses out of the bar. And I think you're right, Saga,

1576
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: that we've seen now the low point in terms of

1577
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 1: population union density, and it really matters because having workers

1578
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: have a little bit of say in their workplace, it's

1579
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: good not only for those particular workers, but it helps

1580
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: to set the standards across industries, across the entire liborpool.

1581
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: In the US. So very heartening to see this. Congratulations

1582
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 1: to these workers who risk a lot, by the way

1583
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: to organize here and stuck their neck out and now

1584
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 1: they get to have a say in their workplace.

1585
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, the big change, the big question is going to

1586
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 2: be obviously the spread whether this will go to Toyota, apparently, Honda, Hyundai,

1587
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 2: and other foreign car manufacturers all across the American style.

1588
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 2: So this is one But this obviously is like a

1589
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 2: signal that goes out across that And but we also

1590
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 2: shouldn't forget, as we covered previously, it's not like the

1591
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 2: state governments aren't going to fight back. Oh yeah, this Alabama, Tennessee,

1592
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 2: all these other places. They're going to use everything in

1593
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 2: their disposal to try and to try and to quash

1594
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 2: any of these future votes.

1595
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. The last thing I'll mention here is Volkswagen. They

1596
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:17,480
Speaker 1: are used to dealing with unions in their European locations,

1597
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:21,600
Speaker 1: and so the reports are they were less hostile to

1598
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:27,520
Speaker 1: unionization efforts than other automakers like Tesla, for example. Maybe,

1599
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 1: so that could be a key factor here as well.

1600
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: But the fact that this victory was so resounding, the

1601
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 1: fact that this same planet had lost two separate votes

1602
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: and now votes seventy three percent for a union really

1603
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 1: does show you that we're living in a different era now.

1604
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: Things have decidedly changed.

1605
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1606
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to Tucker Carlson on the

1607
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan Experience. There were wild conspiracies flying when the

1608
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 2: episode itself was posted. Why doesn't it have enough views?

1609
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 2: What's going on there? Well, it's got several million views now,

1610
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 2: so everybody can relax. In general, just who don't have

1611
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 2: YouTube channels. In the first twenty four hours, it will

1612
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 2: often be much less publicly than what it actually is

1613
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 2: on the back end. I'm not really sure why they

1614
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 2: do that, but just so people understand that's what it is.

1615
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 2: After around twenty four hours or so, you can go

1616
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 2: and check and you will see the actual number. But

1617
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 2: that belies what's actually important. There were some ideological disagreements

1618
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 2: that were made on the show, where Tucker in particular

1619
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 2: echoed some of the things that he talked about previously

1620
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 2: whenever I interviewed him before about free speech hypocrites in

1621
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 2: the alternative media space.

1622
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 3: He names in shames.

1623
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 2: Barry Weiss and then also heavily implies Ben Shapiro as

1624
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 2: well let's take a listen.

1625
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 16: If you hear someone talk that's saying something that's kind

1626
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 16: of horseshit, it resonates with you that that's what you've seen.

1627
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 17: You had a moment with Barry Weiss on your show

1628
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 17: that when everywhere I saw a clip of it. I

1629
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 17: never saw the show itself, but she was going on

1630
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 17: about she was posing as one thing, and then you

1631
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 17: pressed you, you like, well, hold on a second, what do

1632
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 17: you mean by that? You just attack somebody? And she

1633
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 17: had no idea what she was talking about. And it

1634
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 17: became really clear to me watching that. I completely changed

1635
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 17: my view of Barry Weiss forever. I was like, oh,

1636
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 17: this she's a fraud. Actually, this person's not honest at all.

1637
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 17: Like she has a very specific agenda, that's all she

1638
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 17: cares about. The rest of this stuff is just a

1639
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 17: is a kind of sleight of hand maneuver.

1640
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 16: You're talking about the thing with Tulta Gabbart, that's correct. Yeah,

1641
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 16: she called her a toady and she didn't know what

1642
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 16: that meant.

1643
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 17: Well, but she had no idea like Telsea Gabbard had

1644
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:33,440
Speaker 17: straight outside the lines on some Syria or something. Oh huh.

1645
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 17: And Barry Weiss was, you know, going through the files

1646
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,799
Speaker 17: in her head, like what does she have to believe?

1647
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 17: And she was aware that, you know, Tulsi Gabbart had

1648
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 17: somehow violated that in a way that no one's willing

1649
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 17: to say, like in detail to her fully articulately, what

1650
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 17: did Tulsi Gabbert do wrong? No one will tell you.

1651
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,679
Speaker 3: She's just bad. But it's important to be honest about

1652
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:54,480
Speaker 3: what your agenda.

1653
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 16: She is honest. I think she is honest, and I

1654
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 16: really like her.

1655
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.

1656
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 17: I'm not she's very into well, not against her personally.

1657
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 16: I just think that was a mistake, and I think

1658
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 16: you're allowed to do that and hopefully learn from that.

1659
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 17: If your agenda is neo kun politics, which is her agenda,

1660
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 17: just say so. Don't pretend to be a defender of

1661
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 17: free speech as a principle, which is what she does.

1662
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 16: How is she a defender of neokon politics?

1663
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 3: Very wise?

1664
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 17: Yeah, like what specifically, Well, anyone including me and Tulca Gabbard,

1665
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 17: who thinks that America shouldn't be funding worse that don't

1666
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 17: help America, she will attack.

1667
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's empirically true. I'm on Barry's feed literally, right,

1668
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 2: and listen, I have nothing personal against Barry Wise. You've

1669
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 2: only ever been cordial. This is purely a professional disagreement.

1670
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 2: Has put all that out there. But I'm on Barry's

1671
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 2: feed and everything is about individual students getting attacked at Yeah,

1672
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 2: for example, headline at the Free Press, I was stabbed

1673
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 2: in the Yale because I am a Jew. And then

1674
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:59,440
Speaker 2: I continue to scroll past, and I see multiple retweets

1675
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 2: of like a panic going on anti free speech that's

1676
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 2: happening at Columbia University. If I continue to scroll and

1677
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 2: look at the Free Press, I see articles that are

1678
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 2: justifying more aid to Ukraine, more aid to Israel. But

1679
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 2: really what gave away the game to me? And this

1680
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 2: is actually just pure, one hundred percent proof, is it.

1681
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 2: Verry did an event in Israel with a guy named

1682
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 2: Natan Sharansky. Now most of you probably don't know who

1683
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 2: that is. Sharansky is an israel Israeli politician and a

1684
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 2: father of neo conservative ideology. He his book was chiefly

1685
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 2: responsible for George W. Bush's second inaugural address and the

1686
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 2: Freedom Agenda about spreading democracy to Iraq. So if you

1687
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,919
Speaker 2: are doing an event with the father of the Freedom

1688
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 2: Agenda from Iraq, you are a neocon one hundred percent.

1689
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 2: And she did that unironically in Israel. And then also

1690
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 2: while there was posting videos like.

1691
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 3: This is what it's like to be under attack, you know, while.

1692
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 2: We're in Israel, people were like, yeah, what about a

1693
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 2: couple miles away over there in God's Like, I'm not

1694
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 2: justifying the attack, but I'm just come on, you know, like,

1695
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 2: let's chill here a little bit on the propaganda. So look,

1696
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 2: with all due respect to our friend Joe Rogan, I

1697
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 2: do think Barry is an absolutely unreconstructed neo conservative, a

1698
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 2: hypocrite whenever it comes to free speech, as Tucker correctly

1699
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 2: was calling out there, and he wasn't just talking about her,

1700
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 2: he was also talking about Ben Shapiro because both of

1701
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:24,520
Speaker 2: those individuals raised and let's be honest, you know, monetarily

1702
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 2: became multi millionaires speaking out against free speech, hypocrisy and

1703
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 2: all that. And it's very easy, you know, to attack

1704
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 2: the left world, do it here anytime if we see

1705
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 2: hypocrisy as well. But you know, whenever it comes to

1706
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 2: an issue there where they have a deep emotional and

1707
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:41,719
Speaker 2: religious attachment, then all of a sudden, all that stuff

1708
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 2: gets thrown right out the window.

1709
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 1: Listen part of Joe's charms that he sees the best

1710
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: in them. Yeah, that's we're sitting across from him, and

1711
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 1: that includes Barry Weiss, so we'll put him aside. In

1712
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 1: terms of the commentary. You know, the free speech part

1713
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 1: with Barry, it's so blatant because you know, when she

1714
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 1: was a college student, she was engaged aged in some

1715
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 1: of these activist efforts to get Muslim professors who she

1716
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 1: found to be saying things she didn't like canceled. Now

1717
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 1: she claimed once she entered her quote unquote free speech

1718
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: era that oh, I was a college student and people

1719
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,639
Speaker 1: gave her a pass. Okay, find your college student. People,

1720
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 1: you know, make mistakes and they change and they grow,

1721
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. But the minute it came to Israel,

1722
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: suddenly she is the biggest cancel culture proponent that you

1723
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 1: could possibly am. I mean, that is what her entire

1724
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 1: Twitter feed is at this point. And it's not surprising

1725
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 1: that this tactic is being used to smear an entire

1726
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 1: protest movement and an entire cause because we see this

1727
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 1: plan on through throughout history. It's easier to you know,

1728
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: find the asshole in the movement, use that person to

1729
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 1: smear the entire movement, and then use that smearing of

1730
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,679
Speaker 1: the movement to delegitimize the cause. And at this point,

1731
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: if you're an Israel supporter, that is a lot easier

1732
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: than actually out and out justifying what Israel is doing

1733
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,719
Speaker 1: in Palestine day after day. It was a lot easier

1734
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: than out and out trying to argue that US continuing

1735
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: to support them as they were sending the world catastrophically

1736
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 1: in World War three is somehow an American interest. So

1737
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a cheap and easy playbook that

1738
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: we see throughout history. And yeah, she was happy to

1739
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: ditch the free speech language the minute that it was

1740
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 1: became inconvenient for her, after she built an entire your

1741
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: media empire off of it. So, I mean, that's just

1742
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 1: the reality.

1743
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 3: You believe what you want, Okay, it's free country.

1744
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 2: If you want to be rapidly pro Israel, cool, you

1745
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 2: want to cancel people who are Palestinian activists while you're

1746
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 2: in college and then apologize.

1747
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 3: For it, which is what she did. Objectively. She came

1748
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 3: out and said that she.

1749
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 2: Regretted her passing that I'll take you at your word,

1750
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 2: but then if you're immediately going to regress back to

1751
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 2: that same behavior, then I'm not going to take you

1752
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 2: out your word.

1753
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to say that you are a giant hypocrite.

1754
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 2: And that's the same problem I have with Ben Shapiro, again,

1755
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 2: a pan who I have only ever had good personal

1756
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 2: interaction with. But this is a professional and a principal

1757
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 2: disagreement about what we view as important and what we

1758
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 2: view as actually whether you're standing up for what you

1759
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 2: said you believe in or not. And I think it

1760
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 2: was I'm glad that Tucker said that. I would hope,

1761
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 2: you know that Joe would maybe be take a look

1762
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 2: at some other free press articles that are out there,

1763
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 2: because I do think it's very important. There were also

1764
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:26,719
Speaker 2: some allegations that Tucker made about blackmail and members of Congress,

1765
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,719
Speaker 2: according to him, that he's seen from the intelligence community.

1766
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 3: Let's take a listen, by.

1767
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 17: The way, you know, whatever, that's all I'll say, By

1768
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 17: the way, no, I mean, you know, people don't say

1769
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 17: that because they're worried abut getting punished. They're worried about

1770
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 17: someone putting kitty porn on their computer. Members of Congress

1771
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 17: are terrified of the Intel agencies I'm not guessing at that.

1772
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 17: They've told me that, including people on the Intel Committee,

1773
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 17: including people who run the Intel Committee, the people whose

1774
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 17: job it is to oversee and keep in line these

1775
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 17: enormous secretive agencies whose budgets we can't even know their

1776
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 17: black budget. It's there. The parents, the agencies are the children.

1777
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 17: They're afraid of the agencies. That's not compatible with democracy.

1778
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 2: Interesting alleging there that they'll put Katie porn on your

1779
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, it's certainly possible. The broader thing, I

1780
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 2: definitely one hundred percent agree with. Glenn always loves to

1781
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 2: put play that clip of Chuck Schumer from twenty seventeen

1782
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 2: whenever he's like, Trump shouldn't mess with the Intel agencies

1783
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 2: and the CIA because they can really make life hard

1784
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 2: for you. And You're like, wait, what is your job

1785
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 2: is to is to.

1786
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 3: Oversee the CIA?

1787
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 2: Are you saying that there's the opposite, And I mean,

1788
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 2: considering what happened with Mike Johnson, where you have a

1789
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 2: guy who voted against Ukraine AID, spoke out against Ukraine AID,

1790
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,759
Speaker 2: became president and then literally said because of the Intel

1791
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 2: that he decided to flip and become Winston Churchill and

1792
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 2: he prayed on on all that.

1793
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 3: I am not going to rule out blackmel Cristal. In

1794
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 3: terms of this, Mike john.

1795
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 1: Remember the Russian space Nuka just say situation when they're

1796
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 1: just yes with them through Listen the kitty porn thing.

1797
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:08,719
Speaker 1: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, no evidence presented. In addition,

1798
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 1: like this does kind of give a past to how

1799
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 1: any member of Congress in the future ends up with

1800
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 1: kitty porn on their laptop, to be like, it wasn't me,

1801
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 1: it was the Intel committees. It's just because I'm such

1802
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 1: a like, you know, warrior for truth that they're coming

1803
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 1: after me. Whatever. Look at what Tucker had to say

1804
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: about it. It's all out there in the open, soide

1805
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 1: don't love those comments certainly in terms the thing is

1806
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:29,679
Speaker 1: that many of these conspiracies are out in the open.

1807
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 1: Like we were discussing before, we know the way that

1808
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:36,520
Speaker 1: they rolled Obama. We know, you know, Trump was easily manipulated.

1809
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 1: Mike Johnson publicly admitted that he was emotionally manipulated by

1810
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 1: them into completely changing his previously held multiple positions. So

1811
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean that part of it is just like it's

1812
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 1: not a conspiracy, that's just an undeniable fact about the

1813
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: way that they operate, and they can threaten to leak

1814
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 1: to the press, and there's any number of stenographers out

1815
01:30:57,479 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 1: there or print whatever they want to print, and they

1816
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,879
Speaker 1: can ruin you, and these politicians know they can ruin you.

1817
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 1: You add to that, then you know the amount of

1818
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: money coming in not only through the Israel lobby, but

1819
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: also critically across every issue from the military industrial complex,

1820
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: these defense The defense industry is one of the largest

1821
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 1: funders of political campaigns. And you see how you end

1822
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 1: up with the results that we have, which are directly

1823
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 1: contrary to actual democracy and actual will of the people,

1824
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 1: which is why over and over and over again, you

1825
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 1: see these things only go in one direction.

1826
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, all right, let's okay, second part here, and

1827
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 2: this requires an entire discussion on its own.

1828
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 3: Talker and I do share a fascination.

1829
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 2: With UFO's UAPs whatever you would like to call it.

1830
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 2: But he seems to believe that the phenomenon as it

1831
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 2: exists involves something supernatural but of this world, and something

1832
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 2: that is not alien or extraterrestrial. Here's the case that

1833
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 2: he laid out on Joe Rogan.

1834
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,639
Speaker 16: Well, when you say spiritual, like what makes you draw

1835
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 16: that conclusion that their spiritual?

1836
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:04,520
Speaker 17: What's the obvious I mean spiritual maybe the wrong words supernatural?

1837
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 17: You know, they're beyond nature as we understand it. I mean,

1838
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 17: obviously they are. I mean, just chart their physical behavior.

1839
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 17: It doesn't you know, it goes outside of what we

1840
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,679
Speaker 17: understand about physics. So if you have a craft, any

1841
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 17: object underwater that's traveling at five hundred knots as measured

1842
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 17: by sonar right there, you're challenging understanding physics, like what

1843
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 17: is that? How can that be?

1844
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 16: So they've they've tracked that, they've tracked things going five

1845
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 16: hundred knots under the sea.

1846
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 17: Yeah really, yeah, much much faster than any object could

1847
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 17: can actually go under under Oh for sure.

1848
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:40,839
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

1849
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 17: There's a lot of stuff going on underwater and a

1850
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 17: lot and there's video of these things coming out of

1851
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 17: the sky into the water and also emerging from the water.

1852
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 4: Right.

1853
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 17: But then there's a deeper level, which is like, Okay,

1854
01:32:56,560 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 17: what's your relationship with these things? What is the US

1855
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 17: government's relationship with these things? And there's evidence that there

1856
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 17: is a relationship and that it's a longstanding and that

1857
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:11,280
Speaker 17: raises like a lot of questions about intent, and.

1858
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 3: So like what is that?

1859
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 17: And I just personally decided, you know, and people have

1860
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 17: been hurt by these things. You know, that's a fact.

1861
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 17: That's a fact. It's a noble fact, it's a provable fact.

1862
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 3: And killed.

1863
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 17: And I'm not saying millions of people have been killed

1864
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 17: by whatever these things are, but people have been killed,

1865
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 17: and it's known because it's working its way through the

1866
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 17: courts out of the VA. So I don't know an

1867
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 17: object that is by definition supernatural, it's above the laws

1868
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 17: of nature as we understand them, and that has resulted

1869
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 17: in the deaths of people. We don't spend enough time

1870
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:52,719
Speaker 17: thinking about like what that adds up to, like not good?

1871
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 17: Actually not good.

1872
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 2: So he's implying kind of the same stuff that he'd

1873
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 2: previously talks about here, Crystal. I mean, he seems to

1874
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 2: believe that uap ufo whatever you would like to call it,

1875
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 2: of beer in here for hundreds of years, which definitely

1876
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 2: there is evidence for that, but that they are like

1877
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 2: some sort of biblical angels and demons as opposed to extraterrestrials.

1878
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 3: So I'll let you weigh in before I give some

1879
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 3: of my thoughts.

1880
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 1: Well, this k yeah, this the context before of his

1881
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 1: interview with Putin, We're asked Putin something about this, and

1882
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 1: Putin's like, noe, yeah, I don't know. I feel like

1883
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:29,280
Speaker 1: I have to get you to decode this for me,

1884
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 1: because I was asking you previously, how large of a

1885
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 1: percentage of the like UFO interest community shares this like

1886
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 1: Christian spiritual angel demons view of whatever the hell is

1887
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 1: going on?

1888
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 2: This is more of like a nineteen seventies, nineteen eighties

1889
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 2: UFO phenomenal. Really yeah, oh yeah, people back in the

1890
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 2: day used to really believe.

1891
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: I thought this was like a new school, like Christian Nationalism.

1892
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:54,600
Speaker 3: No, no, no, definitely, no, absolutely not.

1893
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,679
Speaker 2: If anything, it's much older, the more of the extraterrestrial school,

1894
01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 2: I guess you could call it is. I mean, it's

1895
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:01,719
Speaker 2: always been there for the entire time, but there's always

1896
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 2: been debates and all around this. To a certain extent,

1897
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 2: I don't even care, because as long as people are interested,

1898
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 2: it's just going to lead to more transparency. What kicked

1899
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 2: off this entire discussion actually was the declassification of the

1900
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 2: ConA Blue Program, and these were declassified documents. News Nation

1901
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 2: reporting this and I've confirmed at least some of it

1902
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 2: as well, from those people that I've spoken to, is

1903
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 2: specifically about a proposed program to try and reverse engineer

1904
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 2: back UFOs. It was quote scrapped according to them, when

1905
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 2: no alien technology was found, and the Pentagon continues to

1906
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 2: maintain there is no evidence of alien life. So what

1907
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,600
Speaker 2: they said, basically, what they're claiming is there was a

1908
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 2: proposal to back engineer UFOs, but then they weren't able

1909
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 2: to find any UFOs. But why would you have a

1910
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 2: back engineering proposal if there were no UFOs?

1911
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 3: Whatever? Got chat?

1912
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 2: Okay, there's a lot of conversation I guess around this.

1913
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 2: To be honest, I mean, look, you know, nome disrespect.

1914
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 2: Doesn't it seem more plausible that that we're dealing with

1915
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 2: extraterrestrial life than we are angels and demons that we're

1916
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 2: dealing with if something, you know, one is in the

1917
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 2: realm of all scientifics. All sci fi is premised on

1918
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:09,639
Speaker 2: what on the idea and specifically toying with the Fermi

1919
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:13,679
Speaker 2: paradox and all that that if intelligent life is able

1920
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 2: to arise on a relatively unremarkable planet like Earth, then

1921
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 2: why would it not be able to arise in the

1922
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 2: billions and billions and trillions upon stars that exists in

1923
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 2: our galaxy at the same time. If there are, and

1924
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 2: extraterrestrial life is almost a certainty, then why haven't we

1925
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 2: been able to see it or observe it? And that's

1926
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 2: where it comes into play of like, well, an intelligent

1927
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 2: life would have to be able to achieve you know,

1928
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 2: faster than light travel at the exact same time that

1929
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 2: the human race has. One hundred and fifty thousand years

1930
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 2: or whatever of human evolution is a blink of an

1931
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Speaker 2: eye in terrestrial terms. So there may have been vast

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Speaker 2: great civilizations that have been risen and fallen in the interim,

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Speaker 2: and that way, we may be the only ones in

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Speaker 2: our star system or whatever at the current moment that

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Speaker 2: is able.

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Speaker 3: To even see.

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Speaker 2: So I accept, and you know, see both certain possibilities,

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Speaker 2: but I think that that is a lot more of

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Speaker 2: a possible explanation.

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Speaker 3: I will just say, very humbly myself.

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Speaker 1: That's very diplomatically put. Yeah, I'll just defer.

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Speaker 3: To you on that one. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, in terms of the evidence for their theory, what

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Speaker 2: they point to is again not necessarily incompatible with any

1945
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Speaker 2: theories around extraterrestrial life, because we're there evidence for supernatural

1946
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Speaker 2: and or like religion and all that really relies again

1947
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Speaker 2: on like big conversations within physics around the fourth and

1948
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Speaker 2: the fifth dimension and this whole idea if you ever

1949
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Speaker 2: watch Interstellar, you know the idea of its future humans

1950
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Speaker 2: send themselves back. I think that's the explanations if there

1951
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Speaker 2: is one for kind of what he's talking about. Gotch

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Speaker 2: if that makes sense. Okay, anyway, there we go.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, we have a great guest standing by

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Speaker 1: who's actually been tracking these protests on the Columbia University

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Speaker 1: campus for quite a while. So let's go ahead and

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Speaker 1: get to that. Very pleased to be joined this morning

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Speaker 1: by prem Taker. He's a reporter for the as I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: has been covering these Columbia University protests for quite some time.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you, probub, welcome you.

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Speaker 3: See you man.

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Speaker 10: Happy to happ to be here, thank you.

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Speaker 1: So we all were witnessed to some extraordinary scenes coming

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Speaker 1: out of the campus grounds over the weekend. Let's go

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Speaker 1: and put this up on the screen and maybe you

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Speaker 1: can tell us what we see here. It's the New

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Speaker 1: York Police Department coming in to arrest what appeared to

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Speaker 1: be peaceful student protesters just give us a little bit

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Speaker 1: of what we're looking at and what the backstory is here.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, So.

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Speaker 18: On Wednesday, as many people know, last week, Columbia administrators,

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Speaker 18: including Columbia President Minushafik, had been called to Congress to

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Speaker 18: testify in front of the hearing of the House committee

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Speaker 18: that has been hosting hearings on antisemitism. And at the

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Speaker 18: same morning that this was happening, hundreds of Columbia students

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Speaker 18: had launched an encampment, both kind of in relation to

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Speaker 18: this hearing, but more broadly sort of escalating ongoing demands

1977
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Speaker 18: they've had for years now about financial trends, expariency, and

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Speaker 18: to call for the school to divest from companies that

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Speaker 18: might be implicated in israels of violence in Palestine. And

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Speaker 18: so there's this en camera that that sprouts up on

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Speaker 18: Wednesday morning, very massive encampment at the same time the

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Speaker 18: administrators are testifying in front of Congress at this hearing.

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Speaker 18: Of course I was at the hearing live, but you know,

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Speaker 18: as many people were just falling through Twitter and c

1985
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Speaker 18: spent if that's your choice. These members of Congress, especially Republicans,

1986
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Speaker 18: have really gotten Columbian administrators to agree to this premise

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Speaker 18: that more needed to be done in response to these students.

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Speaker 18: And so you see, the day after Thursday, Columbia acts

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Speaker 18: on those premises and sends the NYPD to sort of

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Speaker 18: sweep out this encampment and begin conducting arrests, of which

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Speaker 18: I believe over one hundred students were arrested. I believe

1992
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Speaker 18: fifty odd students from Barnard, the Women's College at Columbia,

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Speaker 18: and then thirty odd Columbia students, and I think this

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Speaker 18: number has probably grown since then.

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Speaker 10: We're also suspended.

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Speaker 18: So that was the beginning of what we've now seen,

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Speaker 18: you know, the past four or five days, just this

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Speaker 18: ongoing escalation on part especially of the university to kind

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Speaker 18: of meet these students, not with sort of perhaps good

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Speaker 18: faith willingness to negotiate or discuss issues at hand, but

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Speaker 18: really just to police them. And I'll note last night

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Speaker 18: at one fifteen am, President Manushafik sent an email kind

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Speaker 18: of expressing an interest in.

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Speaker 10: In some ways.

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Speaker 18: You know, of course people criticize the statement, but she's

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Speaker 18: expressed a desire to kind of hash things out and

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Speaker 18: then bring the temperature down.

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Speaker 10: So that's kind of the latest.

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Speaker 2: Update, okay, And so you also put out an image

2010
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Speaker 2: which we're about to play here, which was the aftermath

2011
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Speaker 2: after the NYPD he came in where it appears to

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Speaker 2: actually pour gasoline on that. Let's actually see that image

2013
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Speaker 2: right now, and so prem that image underscore that it

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Speaker 2: actually ended up increasing the amount of protesters.

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Speaker 3: It's drawn attention. Now, what is the current status quo?

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Speaker 2: And give us some background because things now I've reached

2017
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Speaker 2: the national discourse level. We've seen people calling for the

2018
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Speaker 2: National Guard to be brought in the NYPD.

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Speaker 3: Mayor Eric Adams.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I think we have that statement out there f

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Speaker 2: seven guys, if we can put that up there on

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Speaker 2: the screen. We have Mayor Eric Adams who has put

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Speaker 2: out a tweet where he says that he deplores the

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Speaker 2: amount of anti semitism on campus. I'm horrified and disgusted

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Speaker 2: being spewed around the Columbia University.

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Speaker 3: Hate has no place in our city.

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Speaker 2: I've instructed NYPD to investigate any violation of the law.

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Speaker 2: Rhetoric is certainly ramping up there. So what do you

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Speaker 2: expect the fallout to?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, So for context, in the past day or two,

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Speaker 18: there have been instances of alleged you know, anti semitism

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Speaker 18: that have been circulating throughout the internet, things that you know,

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Speaker 18: we ought to verify, and also things that it's not

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01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:18,760
Speaker 18: clear if they were in fact Propositian students making these

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Speaker 18: claims or doing these things. There's concerns as with protests,

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Speaker 18: especially with regards to Israel pastime for years of potential infiltration,

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Speaker 18: slash fall flags. You know, we're not sure, but regardless,

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Speaker 18: in any case, those instances have helped propel numerous members

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Speaker 18: of Congress, even the White House, as you saw Eric

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Speaker 18: Adams as well as Governor Kathy Okle to issue statements

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Speaker 18: essentially condemning the student protesters in all sorts of ways,

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Speaker 18: whether it's you know, describing them or comparing them to

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Speaker 18: possibly being terrorist sympathizers or at least echoing terrorist rhetoric.

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Speaker 18: I believe John Fetterman had much more direct comparison that

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Speaker 18: if you gave these students tiki torches, they'd be unmistakable

2046
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Speaker 18: from the Charlottesville Unite the Right rally. But regardless, you know,

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Speaker 18: that has definitely I think probably prompted this this late

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Speaker 18: night savement from Manushafik, and so as far as how

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Speaker 18: students and faculty members are navigating this today, all classes

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Speaker 18: are virtual, I think as as the administration tries to

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Speaker 18: figure out what.

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Speaker 10: To do today.

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Speaker 18: As well, faculty starting yesterday had a very hard time

2054
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Speaker 18: getting around campus. Their ide access to buildings. A lot

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Speaker 18: of faculty reporting was either severely hindered or even just

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Speaker 18: blocked and they had to be escorted to buildings. And

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Speaker 18: that change was made kind of spontaneously, which means students

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Speaker 18: to faculty who had you know, whether it was a

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Speaker 18: notebook or project, and in various buildings that they couldn't

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Speaker 18: really go to to get those things. So I think

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Speaker 18: everything is kind of you know, being done by the

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Speaker 18: sea of their pants in terms of how far this

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Speaker 18: is spreading to your points are Yeah, Like after the

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Speaker 18: NYPD was authorized to come in and arrest students, that

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Speaker 18: set off hundreds more students to have more interest just

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Speaker 18: in Columbia's campus, but also now students throughout the country

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Speaker 18: who have already also been protesting against perhaps university involvement

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Speaker 18: or investment in Israel's violence.

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Speaker 10: They've been escalating to schools.

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Speaker 18: And these aren't just Ivy League schools that are often

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Speaker 18: you know, seen as the centrifuge of these actions. You know,

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Speaker 18: there's the universe from North Carolina. There's Michigan University as

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Speaker 18: of today that's doing an encampment Miami University in Oxford, Ohio,

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Speaker 18: which I love to say the full sentence of because

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01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 18: it's a very silly series of words. But there's a

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Speaker 18: lot of schools across the country that now are being

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Speaker 18: host to actions that are not just in solidarity with

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Speaker 18: these Columbia students, but really just ramping up their own

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Speaker 18: actions to say, well, if Columbia can do this too, Columbia.

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Speaker 10: Students, I should say, then we ought to be escalating

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Speaker 10: as well. It is kind of the mindset of these students.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen any evidence that anti Semitism is one

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Speaker 1: of the core emotions or goals that are fueling these

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Speaker 1: protests movements across a variety of college campuses.

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Speaker 18: So I've been speaking to students all across the country

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Speaker 18: throughout the past six months, and I think, as in

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Speaker 18: any case, of course, individual instances of antisemitism would surely

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Speaker 18: happen to any place, because reality check, there are anti

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Speaker 18: Semitic people in this country and in this world. But

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Speaker 18: in terms of this specific protest movement, what we've seen

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Speaker 18: at the Columbia protest, what we've seen at protests throughout

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Speaker 18: the past six months, throughout past years. Is that it's

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Speaker 18: very much both just visually if you take a look,

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Speaker 18: but also in terms of their rhetoric, in terms of

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Speaker 18: what they want. It's a multi racial, interfaith group of

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Speaker 18: people that really just fired up by the idea that

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Speaker 18: their schools, their elected officials, the people that they trust

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Speaker 18: or just simply pay are implicated in what they see

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Speaker 18: as a state government that's committing apartheid, that's committing violence

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Speaker 18: that they might be financially implicated or institutionally implicated. That

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Speaker 18: seems to be the driving force for all these protesters

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Speaker 18: for the most part, as sort of an organization, as

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Speaker 18: a group of people that are coming together for goals.

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Speaker 18: It's to not allow the images that they've seen over

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Speaker 18: the past six months, especially to continue. And as a

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Speaker 18: lot of anti Zionis Jewish people say, not in their

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Speaker 18: name either.

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Speaker 2: So we have yet seen, though the chief Rabbi at

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Speaker 2: Columbia F five, who can please put that up there

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Speaker 2: on the screen where the chief Rabbi has put out

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Speaker 2: a message to the more than two hundred and ninety

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Speaker 2: Jewish students at Columbia University yesterday morning, recommending that they

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Speaker 2: go home until it is safe again for them on campus.

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Speaker 2: So is there any evidence that any of these students

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Speaker 2: are unsafe on their campus?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, so I think similarly again, I would say that,

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Speaker 18: you know, there could very well be individuals of anti

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Speaker 18: Cmitism that students are facing, and and if they're apporting

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Speaker 18: them to to their own you know, whether it's their

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Speaker 18: faith leaders or or campus leaders as the administration has recommended,

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Speaker 18: then of course some of those leaders will say, hey,

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Speaker 18: you know, I personally don't think it's safe. For what

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Speaker 18: it's worth, there have been also lots of Jewish students

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Speaker 18: and Jewish student leaders and and and facut members as

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Speaker 18: well that are pushing back against that quite severely, especially

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Speaker 18: given that many of the people within the encampment themselves

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Speaker 18: are either Israeli or Jewish. So you know, I'm not

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Speaker 18: going to UH as their individual porters say who should

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Speaker 18: or shouldn't feel safe generally for for for their own

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Speaker 18: individual's sake, But in terms of the campus as a whole,

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Speaker 18: I think if we're going to look for UH document

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Speaker 18: instance the violence that have been committed, of course, one

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Speaker 18: of the main ones that's been on people's mind is

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Speaker 18: of course the incident in January where students were sprayed

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Speaker 18: with some sort of chemical It's not been confirmed what.

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Speaker 10: At a rally for Gaza.

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Speaker 18: That's one of the more prominent instances of of of

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Speaker 18: violence against students, and nevertheless, those students continue to organize

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Speaker 18: and be together. I believe the Craft Center as well,

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Speaker 18: which is a big space for for Jewish students, has

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Speaker 18: encouraged students to sort of, you know, are to not

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Speaker 18: exit campus in this way because I think, you know,

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Speaker 18: they want to, you know, make sure that they provide

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Speaker 18: a space for students as well in case students are

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Speaker 18: feeling you know, distressed. But I think for one, especially politicians,

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Speaker 18: to to operate on this presumption that Columbia and other

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Speaker 18: college campuses are not a safe place for Jewish people

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Speaker 18: or Israeli people are really teeing off on these sort

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Speaker 18: of viral claims of individual instances and are not entertaining

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Speaker 18: the fact that there are scores of Jewish and Israeli

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Speaker 18: students and students of all backgrounds that not only feel

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Speaker 18: safe on campus, but feel empowered on campus because that

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Speaker 18: they're of this organizing together.

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Speaker 1: Prom last thing for you, I wanted to get your

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Speaker 1: reaction to the White House statement, guys, this is E

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Speaker 1: six we can put up on the screen. They said, Well,

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Speaker 1: every American has the right to peaceful protest. Calls for

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Speaker 1: violence and physical intimidation targeting Jewish students in the Jewish

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Speaker 1: community are blatantly anti Semitic, unconsortable, and dangerous. They have

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Speaker 1: absolutely no place on any college campus or anywhere in

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Speaker 1: the USA. And echoing the rhetoric of terrorist organizations, especially

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Speaker 1: in the wake of the worst massacre committed against the

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Speaker 1: Jewish people since the Holocaust, is despicable. We condemn these

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Speaker 1: statements in the strongest terms. How would you compare this

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Speaker 1: reaction action to the White House to reported isolated comments

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Speaker 1: of random protesters near college campuses. How would you compare

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Speaker 1: that reaction to the reaction they had, for example, to

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Speaker 1: a member of Congress calling for Gaza to be nuked,

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Speaker 1: or another one saying goodbye Palestine, or another one saying

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Speaker 1: there are no innocent Gozzins.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I think your question kind of lays out the

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Speaker 18: answer itself. You know, this is actually something we had

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Speaker 18: reported on two weeks ago, just going through every single

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Speaker 18: sort of anti Palestine new thing that a member of

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Speaker 18: Congress had said over the past exons, and of course

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Speaker 18: that list could not be all inclusive just because it's

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Speaker 18: so normalized. But you know, this administration has not issued

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Speaker 18: any sort of direct formal response or statement with regards

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Speaker 18: to those that growing pile of just vicious anti past

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Speaker 18: in retic as you know, Lindsey Graham saying to level

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Speaker 18: the place, Cotton, saying Israel can bounce the Reubland Gaza,

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Speaker 18: as you just to you know, numerous representatives saying to

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Speaker 18: you know, we're going to turn into a parking lot.

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Speaker 18: Representative Brian mass who famously wore his idea of uniform

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Speaker 18: to Congress, which I'm not sure how usual it is

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Speaker 18: for an American number of Congress to away a foreign

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Speaker 18: military uniform to to the halls of Congress, but he

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Speaker 18: compared Palestinian civilians to Nazis and has said other vicious

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Speaker 18: things as well.

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Speaker 10: You know, this administration has not.

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Speaker 18: Issued any sort of formal statement on it, let alone,

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Speaker 18: you know, rhetorically or or politically exhibited any sort of

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Speaker 18: counter to that idea. Those things kind of exist in

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Speaker 18: the ether, and it's not sort of sort of evidently clear.

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Speaker 18: And the same way that the Biden instiration has issued

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Speaker 18: many many, many statements about October seventh about condemning Hamas,

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Speaker 18: about anti Semitism, which is which is all good and great.

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Speaker 18: You know you should be making those evident statements on

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Speaker 18: violence and and and anti pow excuse me, anti sam

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Speaker 18: Semitic rhetoric. They have not done the same at all,

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Speaker 18: even for their own colleagues, saying, you know, genocidal rhetoric.

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Speaker 10: I will know.

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Speaker 18: One other thing is that this was in the same

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Speaker 18: twenty four hours the White House statement as Israeli forces

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Speaker 18: killing I believe eighteen or nineteen children, and then a

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Speaker 18: husband because a pregnant wife, and then two yes, yes, exactly,

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Speaker 18: and then two more women in Rafa, which should be underscored,

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Speaker 18: is not only where over a million civilians are taking

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Speaker 18: refuge after being displaced, but is where the United States

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Speaker 18: has ostensibly said over and over and over again that

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Speaker 18: they do not support a major operation without a plan

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Speaker 18: to protect civilians. But in that time Israel has repeatedly

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Speaker 18: done what I guess is normalized as a not major

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Speaker 18: operation and has just been killing people just over time

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Speaker 18: on mass But of course, nevertheless there was no formal

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Speaker 18: clear statement on that, and I will update the people

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Speaker 18: soon on this. But it's been hours since I reached

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Speaker 18: out to the White House since midday yesterday about that

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Speaker 18: exact thing, to see if you know, at least upon

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Speaker 18: being prompted, if they would, you know, share a comment.

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Speaker 10: I have not heard back yet.

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Speaker 1: There you go, prom Thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us this morning's pleasure to meet you, get to speak

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Speaker 1: to you, and we've also enjoyed some of your exchanges

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Speaker 1: with the State Department. So please keep up the good work.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, ma'am, take care.

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Speaker 10: Of you both.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks you too.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for watching.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll have a nice long show for everybody

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Speaker 2: tomorrow too, and we'll see you all later.