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Speaker 1: Can we do this in a meaningful way that doesn't

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Speaker 1: turn racism into a game or entertainment, Cogburn asked, Can

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Speaker 1: you Golic Phillips, and it's talking about I'm in this

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Speaker 1: Empathy is not the same as understanding. It's not the

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Speaker 2: they didn't believe that, you would not have soul. Many

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Speaker 2: people do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people writing books on online activism and whatnot. And

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Speaker 1: I think we've seen that happen before, where something like

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Speaker 1: I think. I think one of the reasons I'm aware

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Speaker 1: of your social media now is that I feel I

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Speaker 1: think it feels like power and as she brought up,

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Speaker 1: a lot of us feel like we have power. Yes,

435
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: but I don't think that I'm with Karen on this.

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00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 1: I don't think people are necessarily aware and go I

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00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: don't I know my tweets don't make much of a difference.

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00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: I think they do think they make the difference. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've heard that it makes a difference, But I'm gonna

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00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: be real. I don't think calling your congress person makes

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00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: a difference, not anymore like it makes a difference if

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00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: you elected someone that's kind of sympathetic to what you believe.

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00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: But if you think calling one of these QAnon or

444
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, Republican congress people and going I want this

445
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: liberal thing, I don't think it makes an ounce of difference.

446
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: Like I think we like to feel that kind of

447
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: shit makes a difference, And I think it's also kind

448
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: of productive because what happens is because of that, you know,

449
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 1: that scarcity mindset. People go, not only does Twitter make

450
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: a difference, Facebook make difference, and you know, not only

451
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: does social media make a difference, but nothing else does.

452
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: So fuck your votes, fuck your protests, fuck your laws,

453
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: fuck your rules. This is the thing that makes me

454
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Speaker 1: feel good sitting in my house, and therefore I'm shitting

455
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: on everything else that people attempt to do to change things.

456
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: And it makes me pat myself on the back because

457
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm the only one doing something that really counts.

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00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: The rest of y'all ain't shit. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: a big problem, and it does affect the real world

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Speaker 1: in that we've seen Facebook can change an election. We've

461
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: seen what app can lead to people being murdered because

462
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 1: they're falsely accused of being pedophiles and shit. So we know,

463
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: you know that this stuff does have an effect offline.

464
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: So it is this quasi space where it's like, at

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Speaker 1: once it can be so feckless and at the other

466
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: and at the same time it can be so dangerous.

467
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: So you know, those people that that got together to

468
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Speaker 1: do that rally, most of them met through social media.

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00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: It's a social media movement combined with a white supremacy

470
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,719
Speaker 1: movement and then taking place in real life. So I

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00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: do get it, but I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: When I see people going at Ted Cruz resign, I

474
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: roll my eyes. I can't help it, but I do.

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Speaker 1: I just roll my I never say anything to these people,

476
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: I never call them out of nothing, but I just

477
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: be thinking myself like like, like you said, it must

478
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: just make you feel good, but because it can't possibly work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and and and a lot of people gonna say

480
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 2: this people when they say illusion, because I understand what

481
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: the person is saying and I agree with them. But

482
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 2: the thing about illusion, guess what that means. Somebody's getting tricked.

483
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: There's somebody that does not know it is an illusion,

484
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 2: and those people are out there when you go, oh,

485
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: that's a trick, you know, like like when a magician

486
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: does a trick and you can figure it out you're

487
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: on the other side. But if you're on the side

488
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 2: where you're going, ooh ah, how did you do that?

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00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people on social media that

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00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 2: have not challenged themselves enough, or have not questioned themselves

491
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: enough to get to the point that they understand that

492
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 2: they're under an illusion. The whole purpose is an addiction,

493
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 2: which is also an illusion to keep you out there.

494
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: Because the thing is, if you think that you have power,

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00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: which is an illusion to power. But if you think

496
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: that you have power, you will keep posting, you will

497
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: keep tweeting, you will keep scrolling, you will keep looking

498
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: at the pictures, you will keep joining the groups, you

499
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: will keep leaking up, you will go deeper and deeper

500
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 2: down these rabbit holes. They would you to give you suggestions.

501
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: And if you realize it's an illusion, you don't fall

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00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: for that trick.

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00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: But what no, no, you go oh.

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00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: But but for the people that are under the illusion,

505
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: they truly in their hearts believe this, and it's a

506
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: trick that everybody on social media has been cast under

507
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: that spell at some period of time in your life.

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00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: You know, because at some period of time, you get

509
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: to the point where, if you challenge yourself enough, you go, oh,

510
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: this is not good, this is not bad. It's changing

511
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: my person, not like you become aware of things and

512
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: you'll check out. That's because you realize that this is

513
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: an illusion, or you're under a spell, or something isn't

514
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: right where you're begin to realize this is impacting you.

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00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: But for a lot of people, they don't realize the

516
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: mental impact. They don't realize the physical impact. They don't

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Speaker 2: realize the spiritual impact. They don't realize that their moves

518
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: are change it. They don't realize that they're snapping on

519
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: their kids and all. This is an extension of that

520
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: illusion rolling into real life, and people just don't see it.

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00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: So when things happen, yes, you go to the place

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00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: where you feel like your voice is the loudest. If

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00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: your voice is not loud in real life, you go

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00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: to social media and you tell him to resign, and

525
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: you tell him fuck you, and you jump on every

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00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: celebrity and you do this and do that because you're

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00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: still under the illusion that you have power in these

528
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: spaces that you really don't because the places that you

529
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: have power that require action, that require real life action

530
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: and empathy and understanding and actually changing things. But when

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00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: you're under illusion, and illusion is also an addiction, it

532
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: becomes a problem.

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Speaker 1: And also, like like I said, it's quasi, it's not

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00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: completely like you don't have power right because we do.

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00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: It's the power that people give It's I saw the

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00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: other day somebody was blaming Tiffany HADITS for someone else

537
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: attempting suicide. You know what I mean Like that, So

538
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: like there's power that people give it based on what

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00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: they want to believe and what they want us say.

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00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: And you know what people don't is if it can

541
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: drive you to feel suicidal, there's a power you're giving

542
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: it too to be the person that goes this is

543
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: making me want to do this. But we see it

544
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: all the time, and it's like we're in denial about

545
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: the ways that it is powerful. We're in denial about

546
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: and the ways that it's not powerful. It feels like

547
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 1: we're in denial about that shit too, where like you know,

548
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: this is not the place where you can get Tad

549
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: Cruise to resign it is the place where you might

550
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: be able to affect someone's mental health by dragging them

551
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: and picking on them and have them feel a certain way.

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00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: But I feel like it's not acknowledged enough.

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00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also it's one of those things too where

554
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: people only and for some people, people use this illusion

555
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: thing as a way to quote unquote bash the other side,

556
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: as in, my side is right and your side is wrong.

557
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: That example I explained to you is how you get

558
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: white supremacists. And that exemple I explain to you is

559
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: how you get a hotels like you go down this hole,

560
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: you go down this hole, you go down this hole.

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00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: The algorithm. All these things affect people on both of

562
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: the extremes, but people only want to lose that illusion

563
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: sometimes not not that this person is using it when

564
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: it comes to the other side, like the other side

565
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: is the crazy one, where in fact it can be

566
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: used if you have a mind, it could be used

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00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: against you.

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00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: Dia says on the man who was arrested because his

569
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: ex wife called the FBI. I am laughing that man's

570
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: ex wife side of insurrection on TV and basically her

571
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: mind thought that looks like his type of party. But

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00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: I agree with comments that this is all could have

573
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 1: been so much worse in the more capable hands. And

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00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: even with the failed response, I always remember that Trump

575
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: not only has loyalists, he is down to very inexperienced people.

576
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: I remember when the Navy officer was fired for a

577
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: learning about COVID on his ship. That was talk of

578
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: who is ever left to take that role? We have

579
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: been down to the assistant assistant deputy manager's assistant as

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00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: some of these agents agencies. Yeah, yeah, because he That's

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00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: the other thing. He likes unqualified people, which is partially

582
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: why his shit failed. If he imagine if he didn't

583
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: like imagine if he was smart enough to be like,

584
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: I need people that can do these jobs. He just

585
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: thinks I need people who are loyal to me and

586
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: that will go along with my grift, which normally means

587
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: people from outside of government, people that aren't career politicians,

588
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: career government officials, because you know, they just want to

589
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: do whatever Trump does, get as much money as they

590
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: can and lead. If he would have, I mean, if

591
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: he would have been smart, and this shit could have

592
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: just been worse. You guys get it. When I watched

593
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: this happen live, I thought it was so chaotic chaos

594
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: is a ladder shout out to the Game of Thrones.

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00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: But I wondered if this chaos was planned to make

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Speaker 1: way for those who are other motives. I've seen that

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00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: in movies and TV shows like Homeland, where smarter and

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00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: more playing group capitalized on the wactivists creating chaos. Yeah,

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00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: I do think that was part of the plan. The

600
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: problem is even those people are not good at what

601
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: they do, Like everyone keeps spring this person used to

602
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: be in the military. Yeah, but what did they do,

603
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,479
Speaker 1: Like were they like was this a unit? Did they

604
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: sit down and they do a lot of planning? They

605
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: had inside help from Congress people that gave them tours

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00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: the day before, like like this was not this was not.

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00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: In my opinion, this this is more of a warning

608
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: than a true reckoning. And I hope we never have

609
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: to get to the reckoning because I don't think we're

610
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: ready for what would have been to fall out if

611
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: motherfucking dozens of people ended up dying and some shit

612
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: like this as opposed to just you know, four or

613
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Speaker 1: five people and the Congress people you know, being scared.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and you know, maybe because my mind goes to

615
00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: the extreme on business people failed to realize if this

616
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: would have been like organized, organized, this wouldn't have end well.

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00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 2: You'd have seen congressmen get lynched on TV. You'd have

618
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: seen people get beaten raped live on TV. Because all

619
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Speaker 2: this shit was fucking live streaming on streaming, on these

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00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 2: live platforms. If these mobs would have got a hold

621
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: of some of these people, there's no telling because they

622
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: was out of control. There was no nobody there to

623
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: tell them what they could and could not do. They

624
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: were already beating and kicking and breaking. It was already

625
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: been in violence. And so it's one of those things

626
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 2: where we would have watched this live, watch these people

627
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: getting mangled and beat live on television. I don't think

628
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: people under understand how far this could have went. But

629
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Speaker 2: it didn't because of their incompetence.

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00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and partially because it wasn't organized enough. But yeah,

631
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Speaker 1: there was a journalist that I think she used to

632
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: work for sixty minutes, but that was sexually a started

633
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: at a protest another country where these men did that

634
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: like cork cording her often did that shit. And like

635
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: I said, like we got off light and I hope

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00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure Democrats in Congress and Senate understand that. I

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00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: don't think Republicans do mm hmm. And that is the

638
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: part that scares me, is that they are playing a

639
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: dangerous game for politic political expedients. But this but it's

640
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: not a game they control. It's just a game that

641
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: they think, they think they won't be harmed by. But

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00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm a full belief that some of them would have

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00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: been harmed. I think Mike Pinson his family would have

644
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: been harmed, that those people got hands on them. Like

645
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: this was not as simple as Republicans versus Democrats when

646
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: it comes down to this, But that's how that's how

647
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: a lot of the old thinking is is it's just

648
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: Republicans versus Democrats. It's like, no, this is chaos versus order.

649
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yes it is. And it's one of those things

650
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 2: where it was about Trump. They were in there for Trump,

651
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 2: and so if you were not Trump for a lot

652
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: of them, that not everybody, but if you were not

653
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 2: for Trump, you were not on their side. They didin't

654
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: give a fuck about Republican Democrat any of that stuff.

655
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: And it was like if you were in there casting

656
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: a vote, you were not on their side as far

657
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: as they were concerned. They didn't care how you cast

658
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: your vote or anything. And so you know, Americans have

659
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 2: such short term memory. This could have been devastating because

660
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: if people would have been had the empathy back to

661
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: the empathy word and the understanding of how bad this

662
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: could have been, everybody and their mama would have been

663
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: voting to to impeach him immediately. But because you have

664
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: people that go to think, well, this couldn't happen to me.

665
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: And Mitch mccollin is an ass because his thing is

666
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 2: we're gonna delay, delay, delayed, delayed, delayed, because the thing

667
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: is the longer you delay something, because people have such

668
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: such to a memory, the intensity of the feelings that

669
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 2: people have right now will die down and so people

670
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: will actually reconsider. And he knows that.

671
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he just wants to look loyal to Trump.

672
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, because I see Cyprus say some of it

673
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: was well playing, most of it was cover. My thing

674
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: is if it was well planned, it wasn't well executed. No,

675
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: it was not, you know what I mean, because I

676
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: don't see any reason they couldn't have got to these

677
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 1: folks right like like you we're not gonna talk about

678
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: like it's not like oh man, thank god. It was

679
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: so such an organized defense and they were ready for this.

680
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: They weren't ready for this at all, you know, purposely,

681
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: so from from what I believe, So, yeah, something went

682
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: wrong here in that these people were not the top

683
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: flight Seal Team six commando type motherfuckers that would have

684
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: went in there and got some.

685
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 2: Bodies, right, because you know what, they would have been

686
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: prepared for the for those men when you know, they

687
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 2: would have been prepared, Hey, some of us gonna die

688
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: when she dropped. Guess what bullets would have been flying

689
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: back at them, offices of them FBI ages because they

690
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 2: would have been ready. These people went in. Not these

691
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: people went in going where are not going? I take it,

692
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: and didn't expect bullets to fly. But if we're like, oh, bitch,

693
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: were taking this much of a goover, they would have

694
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: came in locked and loaded and ready to go.

695
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's why I don't even want to give them

696
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: that that like, because I really think that underestimates the threat.

697
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: If we started calling this shit well organized, I don't

698
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: think it was well organized. Like there were some people

699
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: that had some bad intentions, but they weren't working together enough,

700
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: like you know, maybe we'll find out a lot more later,

701
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: and I'll be wrong, and I'll you know, I'm willing

702
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: to admit that. But if this, if this shit is

703
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: what well organized look like, then maybe I'm wrong. We

704
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: don't have no threats, we find just keep doing things

705
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: the way you did it because everything that went wrong

706
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: went wrong and we still ended up find So maybe

707
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: we don't need to do shit. Don't take them more

708
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: seriously than we're taking them. But I'm like, nah, this

709
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: feels like this, This feels like if they were more

710
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: organized and they and they had taken this more seriously,

711
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: we would have been in some serious fucking trouble. If

712
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: they had came in the prepared to die, we would

713
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: have been in some serious fucking trouble if they, you know,

714
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: if they had not assumed delusionally that all the cops

715
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: were gonna move out the way and shit, which is

716
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: a huge delusion, Like like we would have been in anyway,

717
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: we would have been in trouble.

718
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: Yes, And I don't think people really understand that, you know,

719
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: how bad it could have been, you know. Uh. And

720
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: it's one of those things where if people on I'm

721
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: not gonna say this, it's very frustrating because they gave

722
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: a live example of their first test run. You know,

723
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: because if people didn't take this bullshit seriously, this was

724
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: a test run. Somebody somewhere is looking at this and

725
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: looking at all their errors and all their mistakes, and

726
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: somebody might come in and execute this shit flawlessly. So

727
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: they better be prepared and they better be ready next time.

728
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: Yes, it's weird too, because everybody says it's a test run,

729
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: and then they go for ices or another country or Russia,

730
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, a test run for the next

731
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: white supremacist. That's why would it need to not be white?

732
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: White terrorism is the main thing in America? Why would

733
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: it need to be someone from outside that you can

734
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: easily be like, oh, those people aren't from here. We like,

735
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's probably be more white people next time

736
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: the ship go down. This shit is what's so fucking stupid. Man. Anyway,

737
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: uh Dia goes on to say, uh, I think as

738
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: days and weeks go by, we're learning anymore even more

739
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: shocking news from this, and we'll be I will be

740
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: front and center with my popcorn for the most relatious parts. Yeah,

741
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: I want to see which Congress people were in on

742
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: it and what the consequences are gonna because I don't think.

743
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: I don't think this ship where you just talk shit

744
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: about them on Twitter once again, Like I said, I

745
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: roll my eyes. I get why it's necessary. I'm not

746
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: trying to tell people not to do it. But when

747
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: I see, like a congress person tweet at another congress

748
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: person like, oh uh, we need to look into you,

749
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: you might be into it, I'm like, I don't need to.

750
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: What are y'all physically doing to make sure that this

751
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: person is looked into? Like I don't like a tweet

752
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: is cool for me to retweet, but is it actually

753
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I need something to happen to these people,

754
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: you know, legally happen to them, like whether they get ousted,

755
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: whether they get reprimanded, whether they go to jail. Some

756
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: need to happen to these folks. This shit where we

757
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: just high five each other because you've quote tweeted them

758
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: on Twitter and dunked on them. Man, I don't I'm

759
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: not moved by that by any congress person, any politician

760
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: needs celebrity, any regular person. I need something to happen

761
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: these folks. Mdrra I hope I'll say that, right, y'all

762
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: are preaching to me right now. The level of ridiculous

763
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: is this that has been happening on my timeline about

764
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: the coup and subsequent impeachment has been frustrated, to say

765
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: the least. I saw someone say that they should have

766
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: brought up articles impeachment and voted for it the same

767
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: day on January seventh, because if they did that, somehow

768
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: mcconnor would have then brought it up instead of doing

769
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: what he's doing. Yeah, people don't know shit. I feel

770
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: like folks don't understand that it takes time and effort

771
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 1: and you gotta make sure you have all your ducks

772
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: in a row before you are supposed to use the

773
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: single gradeest check we have on sitting presidents besides from

774
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: voting them out. Yeah, that's the other thing, too low ki.

775
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: I don't want them to rush through trying to impeach

776
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: him in the Senate fail again and he can still

777
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: run for office. It will probably be better for the

778
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: long term if this happens under Chuck Schumer, when we

779
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: actually do have a majority and you can bring people

780
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: in for a trial and witnesses and all this shit,

781
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: because we're gonna find out more and more about this,

782
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be really important what we learned here.

783
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out how who was complicit, who egged

784
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: them on, who helped them, who has relationships with these people,

785
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: who's been you know, because everybody got all the information

786
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: off of Parlor so which which people been on there,

787
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: who's been contacting who. We're gonna find out more and

788
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: more shit. And I think that's gonna take time and

789
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: it's not ann And if anything, the impeachment made Trump

790
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: chill the fuck out because he was I think he

791
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: was just gonna escalate, escalate, escalate until somebody did something. Yes,

792
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: And this felt like they said, Okay, we could chill.

793
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm a chill out now. I'm scared a little bit. Y'all.

794
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: Did y'all did y'all? My coud didn't work? Let me

795
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: go ahead and act, you know, fade to the bushes.

796
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, So, if Pelosi and Code didn't take the

797
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: time to go through all the proper channels and give

798
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: folks a chance to leverage the twenty fifth Amendment, Republicans

799
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: in the media would have used that to say they

800
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: were being reckless and not following the rules, like impeachment

801
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: is a process that normally takes monster flesh out. We

802
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: messed to do it in a week. That's insane, right,

803
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: I was listening to I've been listening a lot of

804
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: podcasts about this, and I forget which one was was

805
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: to forgive me? But someone brought up that they didn't

806
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: need to really bring witnesses to Congress for this because

807
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: they were the witnesses, right, So that was another reason

808
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: this was sped up. It's like we saw it. It

809
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: happened here, so we don't need to, like, hey, bring

810
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: in a person talk to us, tell us, let me

811
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: ask you some questions. It's like I saw them outside

812
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: my door. I saw the speech Trump gave. I know

813
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: what happened. Impeach. It's been funny to watch Republicans fall

814
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: back and claim peace and unity, ain't it. It's honestly

815
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 1: how they use the high road and the olive branch

816
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: Democrats continuous to get them to try to screw us,

817
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: Hope Biden. Democrats peek game and move with the same

818
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: level of fuck your feelings as Occonnell has been which

819
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,959
Speaker 1: while publicly saying they want to work with them, gott

820
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: to be the only way. Yeah, and that's the thing, Like,

821
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any Democrat fall for that. It's this

822
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: thing where we worry about it and then we ascribed

823
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: this shit to Democrats. We can shit on them, but

824
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: at the same they're not fools. I haven't seen anyone

825
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: go look, it's water under the bridge, you know. I don't.

826
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: I think we're rushing to judgment on Donald Trump, Like no,

827
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: they like, nah, fuck him. He tried to have us

828
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: killed his And if anything, they're looking at Republicans And

829
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: it's all to me. I've always felt this way, but

830
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: it's always been a mandate on Republicans that people who

831
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: want to shit on Democrats always treated like a mandate

832
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: on democrat, right, But it's a mandate on Republicans. Like

833
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: if y'all have some sense and want to work with us,

834
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: we are always willing to do that.

835
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: Yes we are, but it's.

836
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: Never like that qualifier is always there, like if y'all

837
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: got some sense, it's never Hey man, we just want

838
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: to work with y'all. We don't care what y'all. Okay,

839
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: y'all want to do voter suppression. As long as we

840
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: can work with you on voter suppression. That's not what

841
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: the fuck democrats are saying. And I hate when people

842
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: kind of imply that. I know you didn't, but I

843
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: hate when people imply that because it's always a way

844
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: to shit on them. And then, of course, the most

845
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: important thing you mentioned is how they play the game.

846
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: Playing the game is Joe Biden saying we need to

847
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: come together. He shouldn't be playing the Twitter. I don't

848
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: need him to be the woke nigga on Twitter.

849
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: I just need him not as the president.

850
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: No, I need him to be president Daddy and fucking

851
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: tell everybody to get along.

852
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's the president of the whole country.

853
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: And then I need him to go behind the scenes

854
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: and get his cabinet picks and all that stuff. And

855
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: I need those kind of because everything he's done with

856
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: that cabinet and his picks, to me, signals a person

857
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: that's ready to work with Democrats on democratic policies. I

858
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: don't see anything about everyone remember all the Remember how

859
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 1: stupid it sounds now, but y'all remember when he first

860
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: won and people said he was gonna put Republicans in

861
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: all these seats, and I was like, that's not gonna happen,

862
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: as stupid, and it didn't happen because it was stupid

863
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: and he's not. But remember that, how that's that's the

864
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: kind of diseased high mind shit that social media becomes

865
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 1: where it's like, the worst the thing is gonna happen

866
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: every time. It's like, but that does makes sense anyway. Lastly, eve,

867
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: he says, thank you guys for injecting humor into this,

868
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: because you always managed to bring levity to terrible news

869
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you both so much. I last so

870
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: much this episode, our tears running on my face. I

871
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: hate that it happened, but you guys made it digestible,

872
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: you know what. Thank you, Evie. Because I don't necessarily

873
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: sit down and plan the show out with Karen. I

874
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: just I have my own thoughts and ways, and then

875
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes just based on the kind of improvished nature,

876
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: you know, Karen will go along with it or she won't.

877
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: Just depends.

878
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 2: Sometimes. I sometimes I missed the cues.

879
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, y'all, No, this just it's just this is

880
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: just the shows. The same thing happens with I missed

881
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: cues sometimes. So that's just human we're just human beings.

882
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: But I made a conscientious decision that it was like

883
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna coover this, I'm gonna cover this in

884
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 1: a way that's unique to our show. And I want

885
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: to cover this from a perspective of the way that

886
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 1: we process things, because we process things through humor many times.

887
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: And I know the feeling I had when I was

888
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: talking to Ball on the phone while this shit was happening.

889
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: I said, man, it would be nice if everyone could

890
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: have this feeling, because, yes, this is some controversy, this

891
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: is a horrible thing to happen. But what if I

892
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: was able to give you that feeling of we understand

893
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: it's hard, it's been a long time coming. Yes, it's

894
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: okay to be shocked. It's okay to be surprised, okay

895
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: to be sad, and it's okay to be traumatized, trigger

896
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: or whatever you want to be. But it's also okay

897
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: to laugh because the shit is still ridiculous. And I

898
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: and many times I laugh at things that are terrible

899
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: because they are ridiculous, right, And I wanted to. I

900
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: was hoping I could convey that to people, and I'm

901
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: glad that some people really was like, man, y'all had

902
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: me dying. This is the funniest shit I've ever seen

903
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, you know, like like y'all. The way

904
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: y'all did this, I was able to listen to the

905
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: whole episode of shit. I really was hoping we could

906
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: do that. So I'm really happy to that some of

907
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: y'all felt that way. See, the poue was what would

908
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: you get an insurrection organ the insurrection organization as a

909
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: grade A through F.

910
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 2: Karen, I'm I'm going to give them a C.

911
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: A C okay. Eighteen percent of the audience agrees to Karen,

912
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: this was a C grade insurrection took.

913
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: Truthfully, they could have did better, like like like like

914
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 2: like if they wanted a A, they did not accomplish that.

915
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 1: One percent of the audience gave them an A, which

916
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you have You not heard about

917
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: any other insurrections ever when you.

918
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 2: Started going in the other countries, you go, this ain't

919
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: the same?

920
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: This an A? Then? WHOA? I hate to see what

921
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: you give Wilmington. Uh, two point four percent set of B,

922
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: eighteen percent set as C. Thirty and a half percent

923
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: said D. I think I'm somewhere around that, and then

924
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 1: thirty about forty percent said F. And I look at

925
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: it like America, we have the most confidence if we're

926
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: able to grade ourselves. We always give ourselves too high grade.

927
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: You know, we never give ourselves to you know, it's like,

928
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: how'd you do in science? I would give myself an A. Okay, cool,

929
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: What did your numbers say? What does ee w MC

930
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: square mean? I don't know, Like, so I give it

931
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: a D or F. I thought it was a terrible insurrection.

932
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: The only reason why I give it a C because

933
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: people died accidentally.

934
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's like it's hard to even get. Like

935
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: the people that died was mostly them and then that

936
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 1: police officer who I don't even know if they meant

937
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: to kill, but they killed them. They did, so, I mean,

938
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: this is a terrible insurrection. They didn't get none of

939
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 1: the people they was after, you know, could have been worse,

940
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: could have been worse. Episode twenty two to fifty four

941
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 1: was insurrect to Our Dysfunction. We got some comments Classic

942
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: R and B Lover says, based on the pronunciation, kuchikoo

943
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: sounds too much like how people caalk the baby. So

944
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: I select the insurrect ouur dysfunction because she's talking about

945
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 1: the ball. I love your coverage of this white Fragernaco

946
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: bull gas lit Nation, which is co hosted by Sarah

947
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: Sarah kenderz ke Kenzendor, who I follow on Twitter, has

948
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: an excellent podcast episode on this mess. Like you, they

949
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: have been calling this shit from before Trump was made

950
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: the Republican nominee in twenty sixteen. Yeah, me and her

951
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 1: follow each other. She probably got me muted. I tweet

952
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: a lot, but yeah, yeah, I know, Sarah. We are

953
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: an extremely dangerous time in this country, at an extremely

954
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: dangerous time in this country, and I hope people do

955
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: not return to their oxtrich state of heads being buried

956
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: in saying once Rump is no longer in office. His

957
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: followers are crazy, and I don't doubt that they are

958
00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: ill and dangerous intentions daily intentions. Afoot. Yeah, that's the thing, right,

959
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: I think people's heads are going back in the.

960
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 2: Sins they are already.

961
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: I was listening to this podcast. It used to be

962
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: Ezra Klein's podcast, but they changed it because he left

963
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: Vox to go do something else. So it's like Vox

964
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: Media's podcast whatever the name of that shit is. And

965
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: so I was listening to this episode and I think

966
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: it might be called Vox fuse. Let me, let me

967
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: make sure I get it. Vox conversations is what it's

968
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: called now. So I was listening to this episode with

969
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: Sam Sanders and Olivia Nizzy or Newsy maybe, and they

970
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: said something by the end that it was such a

971
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: tiny thing, but it made me so incredulous, Which was

972
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: this idea that we got Trump because they took it

973
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: too easy on Obama as far as the media, and like,

974
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: just you know, and I hope we don't do that

975
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: with Biden, just because we have someone we like that

976
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: we get in the office, you know, they get in

977
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: office and we take it easy on them. And the

978
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: thing I kept thinking to myself is took it easy

979
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: on Obama. Took it easy on Obama. No, you took

980
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: it easy on Donald Trump.

981
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 2: And you.

982
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 1: Didn't call this man a liar until he lost the election.

983
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: And it was like, I'm gonna steal it. That was

984
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: when most of these motherfuckers didn't find their backbone until

985
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: it was time to go, Okay, you know what, he

986
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: can't deny us access anymore, right, because after he lost

987
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: the election, he basically stopped doing press.

988
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: Yeah he had been Yeah, so it.

989
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: Was like, we're done with white House briefings. Fuck y'all,

990
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: But y'all was so afraid of losing access that you

991
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: weren't telling the truth because the truth would have been

992
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: calling that man a liar. The truth would have been

993
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: not the president is mistaken, don't We don't think he understands.

994
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: You gave him the benefit of the doubt as a

995
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: white supremacist. You know, you let this man who was

996
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: a fucking rapist, this man who was a con man,

997
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: a grifter, a fucking bigot, ice, a nationalist. You let

998
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: this man be those things, and every step of the

999
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: way you thought it was fifty to fifty it was fair.

1000
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: It's only fair if we treat him or like we

1001
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: like we should like we should have treated Obama, which

1002
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: is essentially you shouldn't be treating him the same. One

1003
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: of these motherfuckers is excellent at his job, right, that's

1004
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: the difference, And that's that's that white impartiality shit that

1005
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: I hate because it's like both sides are the same.

1006
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: Everybody you know Obama was a shit either it's like, no,

1007
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: that's not true, and I will stand up for the truth.

1008
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: You don't have to like Obama, you don't have to

1009
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: agree with all his policies and shit. But what you're not.

1010
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: Gonna do is act like he was in he got

1011
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 2: it at his job.

1012
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: What you're not gonna do is act like he got

1013
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 1: it easy, right, Like y'all are on his wife's arms,

1014
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: y'all are on him for y'all let eir theism be

1015
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: a thing on his watch and literally brought people on

1016
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: your air, wrote articles in your magazines about it, as

1017
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: if it whow we don't know where this is coming from,

1018
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: as if it wasn't obviously racist, you know, applauded John

1019
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: McCain for saying, uh, he's not a Muslim, he's a

1020
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: good man, or whatever the fuck he said, Like this

1021
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 1: is this is the kind of this is on your

1022
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: watch too, And instead of talking about taking it easy

1023
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: on Obama, how about you stopped taking it easy on

1024
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: white people. Many of y'all won't call people racists today.

1025
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: There's a coul that just happened, and many of these

1026
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: politicians supported it, and you won't call them out in

1027
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: your paper. Now, you let anonymous sources do the talking

1028
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: against Donald Trump when they went right back to him

1029
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: and collected a motherfucking check, and you let that happen.

1030
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: You facilitated that, so it was. It's infuriating because it's

1031
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: so unfair, and I don't think people understand how dangerous

1032
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 1: it is. And I do think they're going back to Ostrich,

1033
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: you know, the ostridch with his head in the sand,

1034
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: because what is what is that? If you go we're

1035
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: gonna be really hard on Biden, then what is that

1036
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: if not Ostrich with your head in the sand. I'm

1037
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna be super hard. You mean like you were

1038
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: on Hillary, You mean like you were on Obama. You're

1039
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: always hard on the people that do the fucking work.

1040
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: But this dude who abdicated all responsibility for a fucking revolution,

1041
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: he's trying to do a man that has never taken

1042
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: credit for the million, millions of people who got sick

1043
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: and hundreds of thousands people who are dying. Yes, you

1044
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: took it easy on him. You didn't take it hard

1045
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: on him. You were supposed to do your job. You

1046
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: didn't do good enough. But this is ridiculous. He should

1047
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: have been he. I honestly think if the media would

1048
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: have done their job and instead of being sympathetic to

1049
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: racist I do think he would have got in piece

1050
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: the first time. Yes, you know, like instead of giving

1051
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: him a benefit of doubt on everything, like you assumed

1052
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: harsh ulterior motives for Obama for fucking eight years, everything

1053
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: that didn't go right was his fault and he meant

1054
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 1: for it to be that way. Anything he didn't accomplish

1055
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: was he lied about it, and he wanted this motherfucker

1056
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: literally do be lying. And y'all didn't find the backbone

1057
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: to say that until December twenty twenty. What the fuck?

1058
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, we going back yep had them to saying yep,

1059
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: going right right back to normal.

1060
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:35,439
Speaker 2: Eve.

1061
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: He says, I choose Kouchikoo for the exact reason because

1062
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: it does sound like something people will say the babies,

1063
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: and these people are all big ass to the babies. Ev.

1064
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: He also says mea punt Saido reminds me of dump

1065
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: doesn't take responsibility for her actions and blames everyone else.

1066
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: I hope she actually serves prison time, Mark Marworth. She'll

1067
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: be crying in court when she faces a judge. Fuck

1068
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: this bitch. Gel shows so much more restraint than I'm

1069
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: capable of. She probably will cry in court. But also

1070
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked because I think something is wrong

1071
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: with her. If she was in court, cussing out judges

1072
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: and acting on motherfucking food and shitting on her.

1073
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: Lawyers, which she calls it to her to serve time.

1074
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if if she does something

1075
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: even more stupid in court, because I don't think this

1076
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: person as well. And yeah, I'll just leave it at that.

1077
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: Which is better, Kuchiku or insurrectile dysfunction.

1078
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 2: Care insurrectile dysfunction?

1079
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: Seventy percent of people went with insurrectile dysfunction, and I,

1080
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: as a person that came up with both, I prefer

1081
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: insurrectile dysfunction. But Kuchiku way bad because I did mean

1082
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: it in the like Cuchiku. Look at the little baby

1083
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: Kuchiku has that gennis Qua sas kim doc And in

1084
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: my opinion, it flows nice because those are some pussy

1085
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: ass bitch babies to be certain grandparents. Capitol Hill, police, senators,

1086
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: and House of Representatives. Air force power was vegans, This

1087
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: already discharged traders, skinheads and real estate agents were private

1088
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: jazz army rangers, para militaries, firefighters, police officers, you name it. Uh, yeah,

1089
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: I you know. I think it's a credit to both

1090
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: that y'all like Kuchikou as well, because I don't dislike

1091
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: any of them, and I also appreciate that the only

1092
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: people that left comments was the people that like Cuchiku

1093
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: the most. Episode twenty fifty five, thank You but fuck You,

1094
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: Evie E says funny how these people who stowing the

1095
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: capitals all suddenly want pardons and don't think they did

1096
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: anything wrong. Throw all them under the jail. Better yet,

1097
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: execute them, you know, if you know, technically, isn't it

1098
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: being a trader the definity?

1099
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, No long I'm not.

1100
00:59:53,280 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. Let's see penalty for treason United States.

1101
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that shit is death penality, or at

1102
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: least one of the penalties is whoever, yeah, guilty of

1103
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: treason and shall suffer death or shall be in president

1104
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: no less than five years. So you could get the

1105
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: death penalty technically for treason. I don't think they'll get

1106
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: it because unlike them, if they do this shit under

1107
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: president like Joe Biden probably won't give anyone the death penalty,

1108
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Or he wouldn't let anyone

1109
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: be executed. He'd probably stay every death penalty because you know,

1110
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: that's normally what presidents do. It wasn't until this motherfucker

1111
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: that he was like, how many people can we kill

1112
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: in a week? But yeah, better yet execute them? You know.

1113
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: It was just a bunch of people that if this

1114
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: is a bunch of people at Black Lives Matter rally,

1115
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: they throw the book at them. Die. I said what

1116
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: I said, he and he talking about Henry from the.

1117
01:00:59,440 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: Take.

1118
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: Uh. The poem was Kamala Harris Vogue cover photos. They

1119
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,439
Speaker 1: were good, they were okay or they were bad.

1120
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 2: Here they're okay.

1121
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

1122
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: The reason why I said they was okay because I

1123
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: didn't think about it till you said it. I would

1124
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 2: have loved for her to be in the gown like

1125
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 2: like like because it's Vogue, Like get out there and

1126
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 2: be the vice president and be sexy.

1127
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: You know.

1128
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 2: It is ways that you could have presented her as

1129
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 2: the vice president, you know, in different manners other than

1130
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 2: you know, just a pan stress suit, you know, because

1131
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:40,919
Speaker 2: a lot of that. I mean, she's a goddamn woman.

1132
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: She's a woman, and everybody want to act like y'all

1133
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 2: don't want to see a titties, you don't want to

1134
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 2: see ass. It's just, you know, we just just look

1135
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 2: stiff and stuffy. But she's a woman, you know, and

1136
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: everybody want to de sexualize her or or or or

1137
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: pump her up sexually. There has to be a middle here.

1138
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 2: There has to be a middle ground. So I would

1139
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 2: have loved the vote covered to be her shining and smiling,

1140
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 2: twidling in the dress and some heels. It would have

1141
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: been cute.

1142
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is one of those ones where I

1143
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: just yelled to everyone's opinion on it because I'm smart

1144
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: enough to know there wasn't the right answer. I agree,

1145
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: like it would something would have been wrong no matter

1146
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: how the fuck they did this. Now, I'm a person

1147
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: that goes, well, if it's gonna be wrong either way,

1148
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: let's swing for the fences, you know, maybe get her

1149
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: like one of those beautiful traditional like Indian dresses, and

1150
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: then also get her with the you know, like laid

1151
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: up with the Chucks and the you know, like, let's

1152
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: go all the way into her influences all the stuff.

1153
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that was thought about, but the pictures

1154
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: I saw to me didn't feel like, oh, look how

1155
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: casual and approachable she is. It just felt like we

1156
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: didn't dry And yeah, I didn't like them, but you know. Uh,

1157
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: and I've seen her on other magazines m M looking

1158
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: better than that. Yes, you know what I mean. So

1159
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: I didn't like these No, you know, no hard feelings.

1160
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take down this black photographer. I'm

1161
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: not even trying to shit on Vogue. I know that's

1162
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: the thing to do, is bring up all the times

1163
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: that Vogue fell short. But it's not even that. Just

1164
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: this one was whacked in me. And yeah, hopefully they

1165
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: do better in the future. But yeah, they were good.

1166
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: Seven and a half percent of people think they were

1167
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: actually good, forty five percent agree with caring that they

1168
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: were okay, and then forty seven percent say they were bad.

1169
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: And I think I'm in the forty seven percent. I

1170
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: think they were bad. It's like if it's one of

1171
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: those things where like, if you're afraid to piss off everybody, anybody,

1172
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: then you're kinda not gonna do anything for anyone, Right.

1173
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: You're gonna be lacklustering in the middle, and everybody gonna

1174
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 2: be mad anyway.

1175
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you might as well have just pick if I

1176
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: would have put them titties out there and been like,

1177
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: y'all niggas just gonna have to be mad. And get

1178
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: these titties. And then some people would have been like,

1179
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: this is unfair. She's a woman. You sexualize the vice

1180
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: president and it's not about that. And you're right, You're right,

1181
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: she is a woman, y'all. Some people ain't gonna like it,

1182
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: the power of her sex and all this shit. But

1183
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: I look at it the same way like some people

1184
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: can't look at Uh. You know when people used to

1185
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: write in to el Joy Williams when she would go

1186
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: on TV and be like, first of all, you have

1187
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: too much cleavag and shit. It's like, why are you

1188
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: so intimidated by that? Why are you worried about her

1189
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: body that fucking much? You know, she chose to wear

1190
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: those clothes. You know she's going on TV.

1191
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 2: So you so it just what her body looks like.

1192
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just goes to show you some people are

1193
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: gonna be mad no matter what.

1194
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just gotta go fuck them come mad, then

1195
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 2: come on. And Ljoy is gorgeous, you know, And I.

1196
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: Think, well, I wasn't trying to turn this into the

1197
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: Ljoy thing.

1198
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 2: No, no, no, And and sometimes I think it's just a

1199
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 2: lot of people, like you said, their thing is titties

1200
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 2: and ass But you go, well, you see it every

1201
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 2: day in your everyday life. You can act like the

1202
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: shit don't exist.

1203
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, even when it's uh and it's a magazine cover, right,

1204
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: Like it's not like she's coming to work in that. Like,

1205
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it seems this is one of

1206
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: those things where it was gonna be a problem no

1207
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: matter what. All right, last episode was twenty two to

1208
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: fifty six The State of the Black Quarterback. Uh. Even

1209
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: he says, I really miss going to the movies, especially

1210
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: since I work from home and I treat myself to

1211
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: a movie at least two or three times a month.

1212
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: I love going to the movie by myself and get popcorn,

1213
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: reclined in my chair and just relaxing.

1214
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 3: I mean, technically you can probably still do that, but

1215
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 3: you know, and nowadays, nobody's gonna be in there, yeah

1216
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 3: tick of sales, nobody.

1217
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: If your places are open, you technically could do it.

1218
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: You know. I just don't even trying to die for

1219
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: these movies because another thing that happened was the good

1220
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: movies really stopped coming to the theaters right now, Like,

1221
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, they have to have an alternative, Like you

1222
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: can go home and watch this shit and if it comes.

1223
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: If I got a risk Arona, then I'm always pick home.

1224
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 2: Come on.

1225
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: Of course I sneak in a slice of pizza or

1226
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: Chipotle or something, but that was also part of experience.

1227
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you guys to do that. It's not the same,

1228
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: although you know, I'm more of a I haven't snuff

1229
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: food into the theater in a long time. I look

1230
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: forward to certain theater snacks. Now I get a big

1231
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: ass bottle of water, the biggest one that's like a

1232
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: leader or whatever the fuck is half a leader, and

1233
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: then I get I like movie theater nachos. Now, I

1234
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: don't know when that happened, although I missed it. With

1235
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: movie theater nachos was not like it was like, hell,

1236
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: some hallopenos were just putting them on that for you.

1237
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna pump the cheese on it for you. Now

1238
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: they do the thing where they give you like a

1239
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: couple of hot cheese, get everything on the side, and

1240
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: then the palapinos on the side. It ain't the same.

1241
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: Ain't the same, which and it's also a terrible movie

1242
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: theater snack because I always end up on my shirt

1243
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: my fingers. Yes.

1244
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 2: And then they used to do and it was probably

1245
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 2: a food colls, because you know they used to put

1246
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 2: with the cheese on it. Then they ask you, did

1247
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 2: you do you want sauca someplace off the saucer no more?

1248
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 2: Or if they're doing as little ass plastic cup, and yeah,

1249
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 2: it's it's it's like you say, it's an experience, but

1250
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 2: it's not the same because they used to use like

1251
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 2: the good chips and now they use like them round

1252
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 2: circle of chips and you be like, this ain't not.

1253
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: Yours, so uh, And then the other one I really like.

1254
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean, popcorn is always a good go to if

1255
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: you need because.

1256
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: For some reason, you can't mimic that at the house,

1257
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: no matter how hard you try. I don't know if

1258
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: it's the butter of the machine. You can't mimic that.

1259
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: People, it's the butter you pumped that butter product, butter

1260
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: substitute or whatever all to it.

1261
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 2: So uh.

1262
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's not the same at home. But I'm

1263
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:41,919
Speaker 1: glad I saw Wonder Woman eighty four at home because

1264
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: that movie was trash. It would have been mad paying

1265
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: to see it. Yeah. Also now I have a different

1266
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: level of anger, like I would have been mad risking

1267
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: the rona for it not just paying for it, paying

1268
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: for it in this condition.

1269
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 2: Not in this condition.

1270
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm not dying for no, motherfucking Like. I don't want

1271
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: as they put the ventilator into me to be my

1272
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: last thought to be like I really regret going to

1273
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: that Little Bow Wow concert. Like that can't be, Nah,

1274
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: they can't be the way I go out, Yep. Like,

1275
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: if I'm going out, it's got to be like I

1276
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: regret going to see my mom. That was a mistake,

1277
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: but you know, like at least I love my mom

1278
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. This this shit is I really

1279
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: regret going to see Wonder Woman eighty four, Like, Nigga,

1280
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: what you could have stayed at home for this? The

1281
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 1: poe was do you miss seeing movies in theaters?

1282
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 2: Yes?

1283
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 1: No? Or I never really went to theaters in the

1284
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: first place?

1285
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,520
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes.

1286
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: Me too, sixty nine nice, sixty nine percent say they

1287
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: missed going to the theaters, eighteen percent never really went

1288
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: in the first place, and then thirteen percent don't miss

1289
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: going to theaters. And I always I appreciate the honesty

1290
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: of this poe because I think this the truth is,

1291
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: sixty nine seventy percent of us do miss going to

1292
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: the theaters. It never made sense that people always make

1293
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: this like people are gonna be happy not to go

1294
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: to the movies. Some more know the fuck they aren't

1295
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: like you think Avengers is making a billion dollars because

1296
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: motherfuckers don't. They hate going to the movies. We like

1297
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: to we like to complain about going to the movies,

1298
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: but we still want to go and experience some shit

1299
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: as a community.

1300
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: Even if you go a few times out the year,

1301
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 2: even if you only go for the for certain blockbuster movies,

1302
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 2: you still go.

1303
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: We want to see it, and we want to see

1304
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: it together. Those Stacks says, I missed the theater so much.

1305
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: I love Tennant, and I'm confident it would have looked

1306
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: in credit on the big screen. But Rona's doing to

1307
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 1: shoot dance in these streets. But yeah, but yeah, I

1308
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: missed the impressive experience of the theater. Zenzi says, yeah.

1309
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: And also like until I got this newest TV we got,

1310
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: I really was on the theater to me was the

1311
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: best way to watch everything. This is the first time

1312
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 1: where I'm like, Okay, I you know, I can be

1313
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: wowed by the visuals of a movie again at home.

1314
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 1: I was not wild any other time, Zinzy says, going

1315
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: to the movies and eating their restaurants with myself care

1316
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: before the panoramic. It's taking a lot to try to

1317
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: find new ways to get out on my own head.

1318
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 1: Now I really miss going to the theater and just

1319
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: forgetting everything outside of us two hours or more.

1320
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of people which I didn't think

1321
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 2: about it is that going to the movies is two

1322
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 2: hours that the world stops. You don't have to you know,

1323
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 2: you're not you don't have to deal. I mean some

1324
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 2: people do take their children, but if you go without

1325
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,839
Speaker 2: your kids, you can like sit and you can relax,

1326
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 2: and you can join and have your undivided attention and

1327
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 2: the phones not ringing. You don't have all these distractions

1328
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: because the downside of being at home, which people don't

1329
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 2: talk about, is that there's so many distractions in your home.

1330
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 2: It stops start stop, start stop start. For you know,

1331
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 2: it take you a week to watch the movie.

1332
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: Even if you go with your kids. The kids are

1333
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,879
Speaker 1: watching movies right like, they're distracted for a couple hours.

1334
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 1: Cheyenne says, I honest, honestly, I went to the movies

1335
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: last week. Conquered Mall question Ques promising young woman during

1336
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: the mattin a Chi partickets empty theater pretty fun. I

1337
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: think it will be more dangerous to ten movies in

1338
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: a few months when people think it's safe. Yeah, I mean,

1339
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: you're probably right, That's what I was trying to say

1340
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 1: to the first person, while I was like, Yo, you

1341
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: probably could go to the theater now and it's actually

1342
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: pretty safe just because everyone else isn't going right. But

1343
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: of course we now say that while we're starting to

1344
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 1: get the strains of the coronavirus that are up to

1345
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: thirty percent more contagious, So then there will be a

1346
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: time where, you know, even if you aren't in there

1347
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 1: with a lot of people, but people have been in

1348
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: there before you, or cleaning people came in or someone

1349
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, whatever, that you may be running a little

1350
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: bit more of a risk than you were before, you know.

1351
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: But I think that's gonna be with everything going to

1352
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: the store, to the playing sports. Uh uh, you know,

1353
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: all that stuff is gonna be a little more riskier

1354
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 1: than it was. Trey says, I most definitely miss going

1355
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: to the movie theaters. They were always a form of

1356
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: relaxation and therapy after tough week at work. I really

1357
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: hate that we didn't get to see big, the big

1358
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: movies we were going to in theaters last year. Yeah,

1359
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: but there was some big ones Black Widow for me, Yes,

1360
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: Double O seven, I'm still a fan of all the

1361
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 1: impossible White Men, Double O seven.

1362
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 2: Fast and Furious. I was ready to get Fast and furious.

1363
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it does suck, man, And hopefully people get

1364
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: vaccinated and we can start doing some regular things again.

1365
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: And I think the other thing I was gonna say, too,

1366
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: even with the whole like I went and I felt good,

1367
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't too bad for me and my level anxiety.

1368
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 1: I don't think I can go and feel good. I

1369
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 1: think I would still go and be very concerned.

1370
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, just leave me at the house.

1371
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wouldn't be able to totally relax and watch

1372
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: that movie and escape. I was still feel like, was

1373
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: that a person someone coming in here? Are they breathing?

1374
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: They got a mask on? It's dark. I can't see

1375
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: if they got a mask on, you know, like I

1376
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: would be panicking a little bit. The other thing I

1377
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,679
Speaker 1: were The other thing that would be funny is because

1378
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: I talked about this before, Because I would go see movies,

1379
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: you know, the ones that Karen didn't want to see

1380
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: with me. I go see them at like ten am

1381
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: on a Friday morning or something. And I thought to myself, Man,

1382
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: I used to go those movies. I would be pissed

1383
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: because I picked the seat because I'm an introvert, and shit,

1384
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 1: I picked the seat that I think no one would

1385
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: want so I can be by myself. And I remember

1386
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: going a couple of times that someone would buy the

1387
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 1: fucking seat next to me. And I'm like, what are

1388
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: you going to the movies for? It's ten am on

1389
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: a Friday. Ain't with four people in the theater? Why

1390
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: you I know you've seen that black that black mark,

1391
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: that grade out mark that said someone was sitting here.

1392
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 1: Why did you choose to sit next to me? And

1393
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, now, imagine that shit happened at a pandemic. I'm

1394
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 1: killing niggas. I will kill that motherfucker. I'll choke them

1395
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: to death, cause I'm like, you killed me. You kill

1396
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 1: me when you sat next to me? What is wrong

1397
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: with you?

1398
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? Back in good day, you just go to another hour.

1399
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:17,520
Speaker 2: You were like you motherfucker.

1400
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: Alright, Like it's bad enough when you I wanna kill

1401
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 1: you when it's not a pandemic. When it's a fucking pandemic.

1402
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: Dog Oh nah man, uh uh, you gotta go, you

1403
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: got to go. Alright, we had some voicemails. Let's get

1404
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: to those. Seven or four five, five, seven, zero one

1405
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 1: eight six. It's the voicemail line, Hey Ron, Hey Karen,

1406
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:42,600
Speaker 1: this is Emon uh don catching up on the episodes.

1407
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 4: I just finished your relationship episodes and I'm in the

1408
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 4: middle of the Q which I did.

1409
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 2: I just want to tell you I love hearing you

1410
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 2: guys talk about how you met.

1411
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 1: Just one like my favorite things.

1412
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 2: I'll never get tired of it.

1413
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 4: That football, even if you know, we can go back

1414
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 4: and listen to the old episode about it. But I

1415
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 4: just want to tell you, guys, I thank you for

1416
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 4: telling us for about your story.

1417
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: Like you know, hearing your.

1418
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 4: I don't want to say mom and dad, but it's

1419
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 4: kind of like that or your cousin that you're really

1420
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 4: close to here and having that their husband that you

1421
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 4: actually like.

1422
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 2: So yeah, thank you, thank you, yeah yeah yeah, because

1423
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 2: it's like and I do understand that comparison because a

1424
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 2: lot of times kids just grow up and sometimes kids

1425
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 2: you don't really ask your parents how you just know

1426
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 2: you showed up on the scene. You don't, you know,

1427
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: try to feel until you become older. You don't try

1428
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 2: to figure out who they were, if they had lies

1429
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 2: before you. None of that shit mattered, you know, that

1430
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 2: shit don't matter the kids. Yeah, that's the most in

1431
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 2: depth we've ever gone with it.

1432
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: I know I've told that story before here a lot

1433
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: of times, and I know, I think my favorite time

1434
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: playing it telling it was when I played the theme

1435
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 1: song from The Mac and I Choose You and all

1436
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 1: that shit, but I can't I don't know which episode

1437
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: it was either, so but that was hilarious to me.

1438
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, man, I appreciate you know, I like taking

1439
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: a look back in the past and stuff, and we

1440
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 1: appreciate you listening and catching up and all that stuff. So,

1441
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 1: you know, thank you, and we enjoyed telling the stories.

1442
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 1: I just never want to indulge so much that I

1443
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: end up being like, fuck this artist, we talking about

1444
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: what I want to talk about, and then they be like,

1445
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 1: just a twenty seventh time he told the story this week.

1446
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:32,520
Speaker 1: So that's really what it's about, all right. Next voicemail

1447
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 1: got one more and that's it. Hi, Ron and.

1448
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:44,480
Speaker 4: Karen, I am calling to say happy anniversary. Hella delated

1449
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 4: because I'm healla behind on episodes. I'm just listening to

1450
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 4: your twenty two fifty two seed back episode. I always

1451
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 4: feel extra special when I get like a little shout out,

1452
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 4: and I felt extra show when you mentioned me and

1453
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 4: my haircut on Instagram. It's weird to do things like that,

1454
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 4: but at the same time, why not have fun? Yeah, yeah,

1455
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 4: and yeah, this whole coup business it's a lot.

1456
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: It's a lot.

1457
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 4: Oh, twenty twenty was a lot. I'm glad it's over,

1458
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 4: though I know things are knock over, but the year

1459
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 4: for me was especially trying for very personal reasons, and

1460
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 4: I'm just glad to kind of be getting on the

1461
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 4: other side of that. But we got a lot of

1462
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 4: shit to do that the people as a society, as

1463
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 4: a new administration comes into play. And one of the

1464
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 4: reasons why I don't spend a lot of time on

1465
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 4: social media is because of the chicanery that goes on

1466
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 4: in there. I'm just du old for that. So I'm

1467
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 4: glad that you guys do it for me so I

1468
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 4: don't have to, and I am happy to listen to

1469
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 4: you guys' opinion on it. I love you too. Dearly

1470
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 4: and look forward to find more the black guy who

1471
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 4: kicks all right, guys, bye.

1472
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 1: Bye, thank you, thank you, thank you, and mine. Yes,

1473
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 1: you know, I just realized we did that relationship episode

1474
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 1: that I don't know if that person never hit us

1475
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 1: back to let us know if they liked it or not.

1476
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 2: I guess we'll know after that. They might be behind that. Yeah,

1477
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 2: they might slowly be getting behind and finally they'll they'll

1478
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 2: get caught up. But uh, aliga, I feel you on that.

1479
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 2: I'm well, I'm not really I called myself old even

1480
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 2: though I'm not really old, you know, cause it comes

1481
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 2: some times to a point where you go, you know what,

1482
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 2: I I don't have the time or the energy or

1483
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 2: do I care enough to keep up with everything. Just

1484
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 2: like I can't be on every new social media site

1485
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 2: that's out there created. I'm not twenty five, I'm not

1486
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 2: I'm not looking looking to be on everything and looking

1487
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 2: to be the coolest kid on the block. So you know,

1488
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 2: it's some shit. I'm gonna well, that shit just missed me,

1489
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry. I don't know about it and I'm

1490
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 2: not gonna run about them and I just don't care.

1491
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, like I said, I think twenty twenty is

1492
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 1: trying here for a lot of people. People showed it

1493
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: in different ways, people expressed it in different ways, and

1494
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 1: I really wish people took from it that you don't

1495
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: know what people are going through, So be a little kinder,

1496
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: you know, be a little more empathetic, a little more understanding,

1497
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: because I think it helps. It doesn't. I'm not asking

1498
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: anyone to a race who they are, not asking you

1499
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 1: to start putting up with bullshit blah blah. But one

1500
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 1: thing I definitely think more often now is like, where

1501
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,759
Speaker 1: is this coming from? When someone lashes out or whatever,

1502
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 1: try to have some understanding for them, but still stand

1503
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 1: firm and stand my ground on my beliefs. But you know,

1504
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 1: to have some because you just never know. Man, that

1505
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 1: shit that you know that one kind remark can be

1506
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 1: can make someone's day, and that one mean thing or

1507
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 1: careless moment can can can push somebody over the edge.

1508
01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 1: And I think we need to be aware of all

1509
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: that shit. You know, we got some e muriers. Okay,

1510
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: let's get to these the blackoutips at gmail dot coms

1511
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: where you can email us d write saying hey guys,

1512
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here watching CNN and listening to these senators debate,

1513
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: and then I listened to comments from other officials. They

1514
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: stated that some of the Republican senates senators are scared

1515
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: for their families as well as themselves. I mean, yeah,

1516
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 1: I get it, these are terrorists and you're a public figure,

1517
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 1: but you're gonna vote not to impeach to save face.

1518
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 1: You the new judas, denying the up and upholding the

1519
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: denying the upholding of democracy to save your flesh. And

1520
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 1: Senator Mace from South Carolina quoted MLK and in the

1521
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: same breath stated how she was scared she was not

1522
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 1: gonna vote for impeachment. A lot of the right so brave,

1523
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 1: a lot of these Republican senators. Uh say, how since

1524
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: that we only have a few days left with President Orange,

1525
01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 1: we should start the healing process instead of holding him accountable.

1526
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,799
Speaker 1: Uh shrug emoji. And then this n y p D officer,

1527
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 1: the head of the Equal Opportunity Division and was found

1528
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 1: to be a big time racist. It's a crock. This

1529
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 1: is a whole joke right now. I didn't even know

1530
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: about that one. I mean, that makes sense though, but

1531
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: so many of these these moments.

1532
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 2: Who who because the.

1533
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: Fucking because just fucking with them and just fucking black

1534
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: fucking the National Guard sleeping on floors. I mean, I'm

1535
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,799
Speaker 1: actually writing this about the USA. Never in my wildest dreams.

1536
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 1: What the fuck is this? This is America? And I

1537
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: know people in South America. It's like, makes you put

1538
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 1: to North America. Yeah, I saw the picture of the

1539
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: National Guard sleeping on the floors.

1540
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:06,959
Speaker 2: I was more.

1541
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 1: Interested in, like, they don't do shifts, there's not they

1542
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: can stay somewhere and then people be on duty and

1543
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 1: then the other people will stay. You know what what happened?

1544
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 2: I bet you Normally they would have. But because everybody

1545
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,759
Speaker 2: was such on high alert and they didn't know how

1546
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 2: many people were going to show up or anything like that,

1547
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 2: they was like, no, no, we're not gonna have the same

1548
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 2: thing we had last time. Y'all motherfuckers show up, we

1549
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 2: are going to be locking down. And they probably told them,

1550
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 2: when you come in here, bring all your snacks, because bitches,

1551
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 2: you're here to stay, because we want to be sure

1552
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 2: if these people show up, we ain't trying to call you.

1553
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 2: We ain't trying to have you come up street around

1554
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 2: the corner. We want your asses here ready to go bitches.

1555
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 2: So that's the biggest reason why you've seen them like that.

1556
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've also seen I was reading a report

1557
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 1: where some of the police were complaining because they were

1558
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 1: saying that this is a now out a show of

1559
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 1: force to try to like to try to play off

1560
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: the fact that they were so unprepared the first place.

1561
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: So now they got that over prepared and costs are

1562
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: tired and exhausted, and they're gonna be and National Service

1563
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: all these people are gonna be tired as fuck when

1564
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: it comes to the actual day that you need to

1565
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 1: be alert on an inauguration day because they've been working

1566
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 1: them to death to try to save face and be like,

1567
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 1: look how many people.

1568
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: We got out here.

1569
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: Now, see we ready? Now It's like, yeah, you actually

1570
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 1: don't need to be this ready right now because you're

1571
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: just overworking people to try to make it look like

1572
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: it's you know, try to make it look like it' hustling.

1573
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a catch twenty two because guess what

1574
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 2: if you would have been prepared first time, y'all wouldn't

1575
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 2: be in this situation in the first place. Even though

1576
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 2: it's not there, even though it's not their fault, it's

1577
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 2: not their fault, but because you and the people that

1578
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 2: made the choices and decisions ignored it and decided not

1579
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 2: to be prepared. The end result is this just like

1580
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 2: any other job. Y'all know how it is. When the

1581
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 2: manager don't do their job and people don't do their job,

1582
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 2: guess what the employees have to work overtime and extra

1583
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 2: and tie themselves to death to make up for the

1584
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 2: for the incompetency. And so this is the end result,

1585
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,600
Speaker 2: you know, you know, I'm I'm sorry, but it is

1586
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 2: what it is. You know, bosses didn't do their job,

1587
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 2: so you end up to do the consequence of the

1588
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:23,879
Speaker 2: boss was not doing their jobs.

1589
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, absolutely, I agree with you. It's

1590
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 1: just crazy to me to think that. Yeah, it's it's

1591
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 1: typical us, right. It looks strong like, but this is

1592
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 1: not really strong. This is not really smart. Yeah, but

1593
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: you can't say we ain't trying now, like right.

1594
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 2: Right right, and and and like I said, I do

1595
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 2: have compassion for the people because it has to be exhausted,

1596
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 2: it has to be tiring, like they and everybody's looking

1597
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 2: like y'all got us up here when y'all know they're

1598
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 2: not gonna take these.

1599
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 1: Niggas sleeping on the floor to me does not look

1600
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 1: does not make me feel like, yeah, we ready now,

1601
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 1: Like this feels like a horrible misallocation of resources and planning. Yes,

1602
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: that's how it looks to me. Did thirty niggas sleeping

1603
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 1: on the floors? If that makes somebody feel safe, cool,

1604
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 1: But for me, I'm like this, there's no way that

1605
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: that's because if they were needed to be alert at

1606
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 1: all times, they wouldn't be in their sleep. So that

1607
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 1: says we didn't plan. We just threw this shit together.

1608
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 2: Agreed, agreed, agreed, And if you would have planned, you

1609
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 2: would have had everything organized so if you needed people,

1610
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 2: you would have had it where they could quickly get

1611
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 2: there without you having to literally overstaff. It's like, see

1612
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 2: we read it, y'all gon show up again. And people

1613
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 2: are like, no, we're not gonna show up again. What we're

1614
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 2: gonna do. We're gonna plan, you know, and like like

1615
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 2: they said, did they come and everybody gonna be exhausted

1616
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 2: because they'll work for twenty four hour shifts.

1617
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: Ps. This is my country and I'm embarrassed, but I

1618
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 1: also got pepper spray. Just wanted to be in a

1619
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: little uh, stay safe, guys, dang l D thanks d

1620
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 1: Leonard Brothers right saying, what up, niggas, man, I'm sitting

1621
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 1: here listening to episode twenty two to fifty five Rods

1622
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 1: talking about his random thought about how people started using

1623
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 1: birds to carry messages. First of all, yes, my nigga,

1624
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 1: great fucking question. This is a whole conversation. Reminds me

1625
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 1: of something I've always wondered about. How the fuck do you

1626
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 1: see and our dogs know where they have to go?

1627
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 1: I remember seeing a few people with them when I

1628
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 1: was in college, and I always wondered how the dog

1629
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: knew where the people needed to beach day? And the

1630
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 1: Rods point, who was the first nigga to think of that? Shit?

1631
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: That's a good like, cause that took somebody that probably

1632
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 1: could see to think of that and be like, I'm

1633
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 1: gonna do this for people who can't see. But at

1634
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: least that's what I would wonder, you know, like or

1635
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,759
Speaker 1: maybe like it was a collaboration because like, well, somebody

1636
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 1: just had that much empathy to be like, nah, I'm

1637
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 1: gonna train this dog to help people, or did somebody

1638
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: that was already experiencing nigga will have y'all tried something

1639
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 1: with these dogs. We need to do something about this.

1640
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: So I don't know how it happened either cause I'm

1641
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 1: like you.

1642
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 2: And I never really thought about that because I just

1643
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: go as seeing that dog. But yeah, how would they

1644
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 2: the sense of direction? North south east west the roves?

1645
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 2: Like can they you know, do they can they understand signs?

1646
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 2: I know that might sound wild, but you know you

1647
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 2: know that, and it stulf like with the because the

1648
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 2: thing is when they use the stick, the thing is

1649
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 2: it's almost like they're reaching out just you know, in

1650
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 2: front of them, as like an extra pair of eyes.

1651
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 2: But I guess that with the ends.

1652
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 1: Well, you're gonna have to stick and the dog. I

1653
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 1: know a woman that has both.

1654
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 2: Yes, you can have both, but but the dog actually

1655
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 2: take the stick to another level, if that makes sense. Okay,

1656
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 2: here's a stick, but also here is something else to

1657
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 2: assist you. And I'm like, how would they know? This

1658
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 2: dog have a built in GPS? I don't know what

1659
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 2: the dog is.

1660
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,600
Speaker 1: I know the dogs are trained now at different academies

1661
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: and stuff, so it's not like some random shit or

1662
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 1: just a dog will come and seeing our dog. But

1663
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 1: the thing I wonder about now is I wonder if

1664
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 1: you have to stick to a lot of routines, like

1665
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be at this place and do this thing.

1666
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 1: So the dog, you know, like are they good at

1667
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: navigating for completely new situation? You know, if you take

1668
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 1: them to you know, if you take them to like

1669
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 1: a concert where they be overwhelmed, or the things that

1670
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 1: beyond you know. But these are just questions that people have.

1671
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 2: Man.

1672
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 1: I remember one time I was uh, I was walking

1673
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 1: down on the hallway and I saying, a black dude

1674
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 1: with seeing our dog, and this is that the YMCA

1675
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: and you know we're black. You know, I do this

1676
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 1: with almost every black person I see. Every black dude,

1677
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 1: you give him the head nod. You go, you know,

1678
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 1: you do the nad no, like what's up, brothers. But

1679
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: he of course would not have been able to see

1680
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 1: my head nod. So and it's a reflex. You don't

1681
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 1: think about it. So I gave the head nog without

1682
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: thinking about it. I gave a head nod to the dog,

1683
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:45,839
Speaker 1: which you know, which immediately struck me as silly. Afterwards,

1684
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck, what's wrong with me?

1685
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: That makes no fucking sense what I just did. But

1686
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe the dog. You know, he got

1687
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: a black owner and somehow relay that back like yo,

1688
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 1: you just a black person just gave the head nod.

1689
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: So who knows. I couldn't be the first nigga to

1690
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: ever think of that. M oh.

1691
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 2: And also that, like I said, there has to be

1692
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 2: you going to routen. They had to be rules of

1693
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 2: regulations because a lot of times some of those dogs

1694
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Speaker 2: have to have signs and stuff strapped around them to

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01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 2: be like don't pet me, I'm at work and shit

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01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 2: like that.

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01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't treat those dogs. They're not pets, right

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01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 1: like some people think like that's that's real fucked up.

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01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 1: People be like I'll will come over and pet them

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01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: and shit like literally, you're petting someone's ability to navigate

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01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 1: the world. You can't do that.

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01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why some of them have signs and some

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01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 2: and if they the person realizes that you're closed, they

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01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 2: tell you to back up and that this is not

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Speaker 2: a pet.

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Speaker 1: Uh. The person had to just had to sound just

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01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 1: crazy as the person came up with the raven pages shit. Anyway,

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01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 1: That's all I have to have for now. Peace Yep.

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01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 1: We should use dollars to help people see the first

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01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 1: person that said that people was like, this motherfucker right here,

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01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: it is ridiculous, Like he's clearly trying to steal money

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01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 1: from blind people with this bullshit because this ain't never

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01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 1: gonna work. And now look at him. He was right

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01:29:58,400 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 1: or she he or she was right and we were wrong.

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Speaker 1: Row Right said hello, love you all, and the titles Japan,

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Speaker 1: Raymond Ramen, I'm row and I'm in Japan working until

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Speaker 1: August April. I just paused an episode when y'all discussed ramenheads.

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01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 1: I felt like the podcast Holygo Spirits told y'all to

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01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:19,719
Speaker 1: talk about it. I'm an hour and a half away

1720
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 1: from more and a half hours away from to meet

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01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 1: us Ramen. As soon as I figure out the COVID

1722
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 1: transit restrictions, I'm sending y'all pictures of this serious Ramen.

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01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 1: Thanks love, y'all enjoy it. We can't insurrect our dysfunction.

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01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:39,599
Speaker 1: It's from Jackie, who says aka Ujima, oh okay aka

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01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:45,679
Speaker 1: Ujima dueler services. Hey, Rod and Karen just wanted to

1726
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 1: send a quick comment about this episode. It's gonna be

1727
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 1: quick because everything y'all was saying, I was thinking you

1728
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 1: commented about the Ohio woman who was at the capitol

1729
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 1: who was arrested, and she was an occupational therapist working

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01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 1: in Cleveland school district, so you know what type of

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01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: students she was into contact with, Black and brown. I

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01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 1: was born and raised and currently living in living in Cleveland.

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01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 1: And it doesn't really surprise me. It really just makes

1734
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:10,879
Speaker 1: me mad because who knows how many these white teachers

1735
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 1: who are teaching our babies hold these views right prison

1736
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 1: to school, pipe school to prison, pipeline in real effect,

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01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 1: thinks she she a good judge of character for black kids. Uh,

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01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm disgusted. Ps. I put a little something on the

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01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 1: offering for my pastor Ride and first Lady Karen. Thank

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01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 1: you guys. Yes, and we appreciate your money, okay, as

1741
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: well as your doodle services and emails and stuff, but

1742
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 1: mostly the money. Uh. Don't ask why pastor got to

1743
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 1: have a new car. Uh, Celesti right, don't ask what

1744
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 1: copas got this new dress, Celesti says, high Ride of Care.

1745
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 1: Thank you for your coverage of this crazy time. I

1746
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 1: really like how to read in Rainbow excerpts have illustrated

1747
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 1: that what happened in six and one six twenty one

1748
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 1: is nothing new in this country. One of the things

1749
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 1: I really hope that some of the really good black

1750
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 1: writers in the store tellers how descriptions that can be brought

1751
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 1: to life. It makes me think about love Craft Country

1752
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 1: really brought both overtly and subtly showed how everyday evil

1753
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 1: racism and how white people can be and how we

1754
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:15,720
Speaker 1: have to navigate it all the time. And even with

1755
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 1: the monsters and magic, the scariest evil thing with the

1756
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:23,440
Speaker 1: racist white people. Y'all listen to Coats on a podcast

1757
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 1: with Chris Hayes. I think it's called why Is This Happening?

1758
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: The latest episode. It was a good interview or whatever,

1759
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 1: really just a conversation because they apparently they friends and shit.

1760
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 1: But one thing that struck me was as eloquent as

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01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 1: Tod Dahasi is and as great as he is a

1762
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 1: writer and stuff, he's still just a human being that's

1763
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:48,719
Speaker 1: experiencing this shit like the rest of us, and trying

1764
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 1: to sum this up in the immediacy of it is impossible.

1765
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 1: We all have our points of view, we all have

1766
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 1: our takes, we all have our notes of eloquence and thoughtfulness,

1767
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 1: but in general, it's really impossible to truly sum this

1768
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 1: shit up in a way that makes sense. So yeah,

1769
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 1: I totally totally understand. It's frustrating to see some people

1770
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 1: try to minimize what happened and what is happening in

1771
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: real time, especially liberals and progressives who suddenly are all

1772
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 1: about revolution but don't ever want you to call that

1773
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 1: uncle of white supremacists and sedition, this traitor like they

1774
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 1: really yea burned it all down like they really wanted

1775
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 1: to and still do kill all Democrats that keep this

1776
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 1: fool in the office and agree with Republicans that black

1777
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 1: and brown votes don't count. My bad life. Seriously, are

1778
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 1: we all supposed to just be okay? Y'all got it?

1779
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 1: Like the fuck like fuck out of here anyway, glad

1780
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: I can contribute a little as a recurring donator. Y'all

1781
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 1: be safe and take care. Thank you, Celesti, and we

1782
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 1: appreciate it all the contributions straight up. Seriously, y'all be

1783
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: helping us get by, straight up. And lastly, we got

1784
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 1: some mail. You can mail us things you know, you

1785
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 1: can get us stuff on our Amazon wish list, all

1786
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: that stuff. The mail box information is in the about

1787
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 1: section of our website, The blackoutils dot Com slash about.

1788
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 1: So we got to look like we got a holiday car,

1789
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 1: and we did mail out people's holiday cars, and I

1790
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 1: saw some of y'all are getting them already, so i'd

1791
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:22,639
Speaker 1: love to see that. Oh look at this.

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01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:28,680
Speaker 2: All all, that's precious.

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01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: Yes, white blouse, this is black woman with gold earrings

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01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 1: and like natural hair, big fro. This is beautiful as

1795
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 1: deer Rod and Karen. Merry Christmas. Thank you for all

1796
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 1: you do make twenty twenty one, bring you all the

1797
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 1: good things. And silly Cassie, Thank you, Cassie. We appreciate you.

1798
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 1: And this is beautiful. Oh my god, where'd you get

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01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 1: this car?

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01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. I got one bag food. Now I

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01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 2: had decided to get another bag, y'all.

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01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 1: I was shopping at the Jingle Jangle Christmas store.

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01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 2: Come on, I don't know what a hell y'all finding

1804
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 2: this shit.

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01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 1: Got another card, this one say it's twenty twenty one

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01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 1: on the front and it says message inside, Dear Rod

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01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:15,639
Speaker 1: and Karen, we hope you will be able to thrive

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01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: and find peace in the new year. We also invite

1809
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 1: you to use the previous page as a reminder to

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01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 1: take a moment when you need it. Cut this car

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01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 1: in half and use it as a side bookmark or

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01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,640
Speaker 1: any other nifty ideas. You got this with love and

1813
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 1: compassion deceivers. And the page at the back says, take

1814
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 1: up breath, let it go, take another breath, let it go,

1815
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 1: take a long breath and release attention from your shoulders.

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01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 1: Thank you. Sound like myke yoga instructor instructions you having's see,

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01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:51,600
Speaker 1: we got this one. I don't know what this is.

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01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 1: I don't know this is a car or got it

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01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 1: like a funky little thing in here? Oh there is

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01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:05,640
Speaker 1: a card. Oh it's from jeff and Jack. A happy holidays.

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01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 1: Looking the doorable all and it says's from Jeffrey and Jack.

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01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 1: Thank you again for having us on the show. You

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01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 1: all are having me on the show. Y'all are family

1824
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 1: and we love you. Have a wonderful Christmas. Love Jack

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01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 1: and Jeffrey, thank you. Yay, Yeah, we enjoyed it. Were

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01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 1: a great guests. Feel free to come back anytime. We

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01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 1: got this, which must be from our Amazon wish list.

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01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 1: And Jeff, let me see what it is it is.

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01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 2: I don't remember putting that with I'm a wishlers'.

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01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:39,799
Speaker 1: They have Tupac detailing brush for curly hair. It's definitely

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01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 1: not I didn't put it on there. I mean I'll

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01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 1: use it if I have to. Hey, Karen, when you

1833
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:48,680
Speaker 1: feel like letting your hair out in the shower, try this.

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01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 1: Oh maybe they bought it for.

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01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 2: You, right, because I was like, I don't remember putting

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01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 2: that on the list.

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01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 1: Okay, it really works for four see both wet and dry.

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01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 1: Keep one and pass it on or keep both. Thank

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01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,679
Speaker 1: you both for your show. I really enjoyed it from Pamela.

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01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,440
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is where you can use a shower.

1841
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, or just said she said wet or dry? Okay, so.

1842
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 2: I should be able to Yeah, I said you can

1843
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 2: use one, I can use the other one.

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01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just be detangling the tangling the beard if

1845
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: that's okay? I mean, can you use it for that?

1846
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 1: Is that against the room?

1847
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 2: No, that's the whole purpose is for entangling, Okay.

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01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 1: I mean if it's some natural hair products up in hair,

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01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,679
Speaker 1: I mean there's a good chance of getting used by

1850
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 1: both of us. Okay, as long as you know came

1851
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 1: putting my beard oil in her hair, it gets freaking Yeah,

1852
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 1: I want the purple one. Is this how you use

1853
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 1: the tangling? You just brush it like this.

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01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 2: No, you go in the inside. Yeah, in the inside

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01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 2: the other way the opposite, turn it over, yeah, and

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01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:53,439
Speaker 2: you go down. Yeah. Okay, yeah. The whole purpose is

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01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 2: the whole purpose is to detangle the hair, you know,

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01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,679
Speaker 2: because the hair kind of uh, they like to reach

1859
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 2: and grab each other and twist up. The other whole

1860
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:01,480
Speaker 2: purpose is separated.

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01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 1: Learn something new every day. And what does this part do?

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01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what.

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01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 1: Oh, to clean it. Probably get their hair out. Oh

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01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 1: they thought everything all right, last one.

1865
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 2: Oh this got here.

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01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 1: It's big a gift for you, says Happy Holidays rider

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01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:29,719
Speaker 1: can from Mary h All right, man, get some scissors.

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01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 2: I halfway opened it up. I didn't want to open

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01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:35,440
Speaker 2: it completely up because I wanted to kind of stay together. Okay,

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01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 2: so you might be able just to pop the rest

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01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 2: of it off.

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01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use these scissors, you know, since we have

1873
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:50,480
Speaker 1: a homo sapien brains. You know, I'm gonna use these scissors.

1874
01:38:50,479 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 1: Oh a U shaped body wrap around pillow, trying to

1875
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 1: take it back to the wound. Okay, it's gonna be

1876
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:06,280
Speaker 1: relaxed a hell on the couch up in here.

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01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 2: No, no, sir, what what what's wrong? With that, does

1878
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 2: she gonna lose to you and use it on a chair? Okay?

1879
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 1: Why not?

1880
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 2: No, I didn't think about that. Okay, I didn't think

1881
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 2: about that.

1882
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think heavy too.

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01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 2: Man.

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01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 1: It's got some good weight to it. Maybe it's like

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01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 1: a weighted blanket type thing, you know, feel comfortable and

1886
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:35,640
Speaker 1: anxiety free and relaxed. Well, all right, y'all, that's it

1887
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 1: for today. We'll be back tomorrow. You know, once again,

1888
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:44,559
Speaker 1: we appreciate everybody that wrote in that send us stuff,

1889
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 1: that donated, uh, that left us voicemails, all y'all are appreciated,

1890
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:53,759
Speaker 1: and the words Tupac, you are appreciated. Okay, This week

1891
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 1: we have a guest On Wednesday, we have Nick and

1892
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:01,759
Speaker 1: Reggie from What's the Teeth? Looking forward to that too.

1893
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 1: The week after that we have Team with Queen and Jay,

1894
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 1: Jay and Jay and Queen, and then I think also

1895
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 1: that we we should have the woman Recie from Black

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01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:22,240
Speaker 1: Women Views. So looking forward to all these guests and stuff.

1897
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 1: Getting twenty twenty one started off right. Thanks for listening everybody.

1898
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 1: We appreciate y'all. Oh and if you're listening to this live,

1899
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 1: you can catch me three guys on at two pm today,

1900
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 1: So all right, y'all, talk to y'all then, until next time,

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01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:38,679
Speaker 1: I love you, ah,