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Speaker 1: Fish Unfiltered episode of fifty four, the first episode of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. My name is Kevin Barrall. I am

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Speaker 1: joined with my co host Isaac Zude and good friend,

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Speaker 1: and we are here with the founder of Fish on first,

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Speaker 1: Eli Sussman. We have a lot to talk about today,

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Speaker 1: despite the lack of movement still with the Marlins, a

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Speaker 1: couple signings that we kind of touched on the stream.

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Speaker 1: We could touch on them quickly here. Spring trainings got

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Speaker 1: going today, pitches and catchers reported to Jupiter. We're recording

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Speaker 1: this on Thursday, February fifteenth, about a couple hours after

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Speaker 1: Skip Schumacher and Hayes Lozzardo spoke to the media, and

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Speaker 1: we have a big article to dive into about Hazes Loos,

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Speaker 1: Lzardo himself, Juri Perez possibly have been on the move,

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Speaker 1: and last but not least, the Edward Cabrera trade rumors

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Speaker 1: that have kind of broken Marlin's empirates Twitter for the

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Speaker 1: last couple of forty eight hours. So, Isaac, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Baseball's back? So, I guess that's the best way to

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Speaker 2: Would you guys say that this is the most anticipated

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Speaker 2: day of the baseball schedule? Is it full squad? Is

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Speaker 2: it the day that pitches and countered report. It's the

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Speaker 2: first day that Skip spoke to the media. Kevin, you

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Speaker 2: were there, but while the baseball fever is high, they

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Speaker 2: actually came. And a lot of position players seem to

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Speaker 2: have arrived early to camp, so that's always good to see,

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Speaker 2: including Jazz, Nick Gordon, Josh Bell. They've all already reported

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Speaker 2: and it's just very very exciting time here in South Florida.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for real ones, this is like an appointment viewing

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Speaker 3: and following for baseball. For a lot of the mass public,

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Speaker 3: they don't get it. They don't snap into shape until

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Speaker 3: we get closer to the regular season. They're missing out.

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Speaker 3: But Kevin in particular, who's extremely busy from Jupiter on

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Speaker 3: this say, and I think gets reflected on the content

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Speaker 3: on our site, both him and Alex Crutchik, they were

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Speaker 3: a whole lot of good stuff just from from one day.

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Speaker 3: And it's yeah, it doesn't really slow down. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: have little news and nuggets and footage and interviews from

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Speaker 3: almost every single day leading up to the sort of

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Speaker 3: spring games. So yeah, I am eagerly anticipating this a

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Speaker 3: spring of coverage unlike anything we've done before.

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Speaker 1: Yep. So as always make sure to like and subscribe

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Speaker 1: that good stuff. All right, let's do it, uh spring training, Isaac,

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Speaker 2: What you noticed from the first day, Well, I mean

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Speaker 2: a lot of storylines obviously to follow here. There's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a full season without Samuel Contrary sort of used

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Speaker 2: surgery other significant things. I think you got to talk

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Speaker 2: out of options. Like I reported on Twitter, he has

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Speaker 2: Either he's on the aisle or he's on the major

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Speaker 2: two guys buying for a twenty six man spot, as

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Speaker 2: well as Kirkus Sally. He spoke to media today as well.

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Speaker 2: The Marnins recently signed him to a minor league deal

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Speaker 1: Eli, I guess just the same question.

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Speaker 3: Right in the middle, there was Christina's Nicole that brought

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Speaker 3: for people that are watching on YouTube, we have a

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Speaker 3: playlist called twenty twenty four training Videos Impressors, so you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess my storyline kind of coincides with

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Speaker 3: Like even then I could kind of see through it

432
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Speaker 3: and question whether or not it was going to last

433
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Speaker 3: one way or another. It's it's tantalizing to think of

434
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Speaker 3: him as they started, because he does have a very

435
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Speaker 3: deep pitch mix that's deeper then a lot of the

436
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Speaker 3: guys in the smallans rotation that are having success and

437
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 3: the changeup is such a unique pitch for him with

438
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Speaker 3: the way that he throws it, and like it's it

439
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,679
Speaker 3: seems like there's a world of possibilities for what you

440
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 3: can build off, mainly off of that one pitch that

441
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Speaker 3: he throws as much as he does. Overall, though, I

442
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Speaker 3: just don't have a whole lot of confidence and him

443
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Speaker 3: being able to repeat his delivery. He's yeah, for all

444
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Speaker 3: that he has going for him, He's just not a

445
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 3: great graceful athlete to me, and it's an underrated part

446
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 3: of being a starting pitcher to be able to repeat

447
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 3: your delivery safely and effectively. He has very rarely done

448
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Speaker 3: that in his career, at least when you get deeper

449
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Speaker 3: into his starts. When he does that's kind of the

450
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Speaker 3: that to me was years ago when he's being comped

451
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Speaker 3: to Sandy al contract. That was the main distinguisher between

452
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 3: him and Sandy, that gracefulness, that coordination, don't I don't know.

453
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Speaker 3: I think there are ways to potentially teach them, teach

454
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Speaker 3: a player to do that, But now this deep into

455
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Speaker 3: his career and you just combine all that with the

456
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Speaker 3: fact that he is out of options if he gets

457
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 3: off to a really slow start coming out of camp,

458
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 3: you can't send him down, and they to this point,

459
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 3: the Marlins haven't really put any time into potentially opening

460
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Speaker 3: the door for him to be a reliever and getting

461
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 3: him prepared for that possibility firstile too, So is he

462
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Speaker 3: going to figure that out on the fly in the

463
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Speaker 3: middle of the season, during the season where the team

464
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Speaker 3: is half decent or trying to be as well. Yeah. Unfortunately,

465
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: we know through multiple reports that they've been open to

466
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: trading him over the previous year and came close to

467
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Speaker 3: doing so. And I mean the reality is value is

468
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Speaker 3: down compared to that, largely because of the fact that

469
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Speaker 3: now he doesn't even have that option to send him

470
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Speaker 3: down and make adjustments in a very low pressure environment

471
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Speaker 3: as it is. With all that being said, there is

472
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Speaker 3: still some value here if you feel like you're I'm

473
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Speaker 3: not really enamored with the Pirates as a trade partner.

474
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Speaker 3: With all these infielders that we've mentioned that are possible

475
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Speaker 3: headliners to the deal, like all of them have some

476
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,479
Speaker 3: pretty big warks that make me make it really doubtful

477
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Speaker 3: that they're going to be regulars in the big leagues,

478
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Speaker 3: whether it's this year beyond. If they do deal, amacity

479
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 3: for considerable value. I think it should be looking it

480
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 3: shouldn't be I think Peter Bendix understands is completely. That

481
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Speaker 3: shouldn't only be about out trying to make an immediate

482
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Speaker 3: upgrade at a different position. It's it's about just getting

483
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: value for somebody, if they are as skeptical as I

484
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 3: am about his future as a starter. It's just about

485
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Speaker 3: getting one, well ideally multiple pieces in return that could

486
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Speaker 3: contribute long term in his place.

487
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Speaker 1: One thing I do I think it is worth mentioning

488
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Speaker 1: is the fact that with someone like Cabrera, you trade him,

489
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Speaker 1: you're kind of going into that depth a little bit

490
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: earlier than you may want. You know, maybe Max Myer

491
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: isn't ready yet. And I know Skip is really high

492
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Speaker 1: on Maxmyron, probably Peter Bendix as well. They're talking about

493
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Speaker 1: the way that talking about him the way that they are,

494
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: that would clear away from Max Meyer to kind of

495
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Speaker 1: slip into that opening day rotation to kind of have

496
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Speaker 1: already assessed that Ryan Weathers will be a swingman type player,

497
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Speaker 1: but that could change as well. And really, aside from

498
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: those three guys that are probably going to start in

499
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: triple A, Meyer, Weathers and I got all you to

500
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: throw in Monte Verde. You don't have much more outside

501
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Speaker 1: of that.

502
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Speaker 2: Yoni tree Reno cif he's in Triple A.

503
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Speaker 1: You have Matt injuries. I mean, that's those are names

504
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: you don't really want to hear, no offense to them.

505
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: But you're kind of getting to a point where you

506
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: already did this once with Pablo. It works out, but

507
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: you're losing on debt that you already have and you're

508
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: gonna have to use more than you already did. And

509
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: evidently that happened with the amount of injuries. But then

510
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: you have another one, Edward Caberra, and you go into

511
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: even more depth. So you could easily see this from

512
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Speaker 1: both perspectives where you want to trade someone like Edward, who,

513
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Speaker 1: as Eli you mentioned, they've been trying to do this

514
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Speaker 1: for years. It kind of feels like and it's not

515
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: just you know, one regime trying to do this now

516
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: it's another one with Peter Bendix trying to do this

517
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Speaker 1: as well. So there's certainly things that maybe we're not

518
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Speaker 1: seeing that these Kim at the time, man now Peter

519
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: are seeing that maybe won't pan out for Edward at

520
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: the major league levels. So I think we can move

521
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Speaker 1: on here and we'll kind of go into this article

522
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Speaker 1: that Craig mission Barry Jackson reported, one of the better articles,

523
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Speaker 1: I would say, in terms of news and nuggets that

524
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: we're getting here. We spoke about Hazel's Lozardo. We'll mention

525
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: it again. It felt like the top suitor at the

526
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Speaker 1: time for lozarda wore the Baltimore Orioles, who ended up

527
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Speaker 1: ended up pivoting and trading for Joey or Tea for

528
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Speaker 1: Corbyn Burns. I'm sorry they traded away Joey or Teas,

529
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Speaker 1: DL Hall and I believe a comp pick, which is

530
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Speaker 1: the sixty ninth pick of the draft. So it kind

531
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Speaker 1: of felt like Miami wanted more, and rightfully so. Lozardo

532
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: has many more years of control. It makes sense to

533
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Speaker 1: make that type of a move if you're the Orioles.

534
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Speaker 1: But they weren't willing to give up what the Marlins wanted.

535
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Speaker 1: I am interested to see what the Marlins wanted apparently.

536
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: I know Craig had tweeted about this earlier in the

537
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Speaker 1: weeks leading up after this trade, but you know he

538
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: mentioned David Joey R. Teas would be a part of

539
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: that deal. He would immediately become the Marlins shortstop opening day.

540
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no question about it. Dial Hall a

541
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Speaker 1: really nice pitcher that you would think joining this organization

542
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Speaker 1: would help him a lot, and he was a top

543
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: prospect once in a while, So definitely a lots of

544
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: like there, and who knows what else Miami was asking

545
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: for me. The Orioles have one of the best form

546
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: systems in baseball, arguably the best in baseball. So, Eli,

547
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Speaker 1: when you kind of look at that report, what do

548
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: you kind of think that package could have looked like?

549
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: And the possibility of the Marlins trading Lozardo, which these

550
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: are two teams that kind of feels like they were

551
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: perfect trade partners.

552
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: They give us a pretty good idea in this report

553
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 3: about what the trade package could have looked like to

554
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: actually get done. It would have been centered with this

555
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 3: catching prospect, Samuel Bassaio.

556
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Speaker 2: He's a stud.

557
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's an incredible catching prospect. His hitting production this

558
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: past season, he was one of the better hitters in

559
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: his entire league. As a catcher, as somebody that was

560
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: extremely young for that level and could rise fairly quickly

561
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 3: through the organization, he'd clearly be the top prospect in

562
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: the Marlins organization hitter or pitcher as well. So with him,

563
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 3: I mean, Ortiz would be a really compelling second piece

564
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 3: of that. He's not the centerpiece. And the Lozardo trade

565
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: there are some questions about how well he'll hit at

566
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Speaker 3: the highest level. His first cup of coffee in the

567
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 3: majors did not go well, but seems like a pretty

568
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: safe defender. Is a shortstop tee. He's like a rich

569
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 3: Man's Jacob a Maya, a slightly better version of the

570
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: same type of player that they acquired last year via

571
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Speaker 3: trade the mcgil Rojas Steel. So if you get those two,

572
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it would be maybe maybe d

573
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Speaker 3: L Hall like an article called DJ Hall, but d

574
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Speaker 3: L Halls Yeah, yeah, like those yeah, those three, I

575
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 3: think that would be relatively close to what takes to

576
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: get done. The thing is, it's just extremely rare for

577
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Speaker 3: these elite hitting prospects to get traded, even from an

578
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: organization like the Orioles that is right entering their window

579
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: of championship contention. You would think that they would be

580
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: a little bit more willing to bend on this stuff.

581
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: They're just really disciplined when it comes to that stuff,

582
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Speaker 3: and they want to be certainly for Burns wouldn't make

583
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: sense just because he has one year of control. But

584
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 3: the report on this is entirely believable that the Marlins

585
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: would want more than what it took to get Burns.

586
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Speaker 3: And we've kind of talked about and the course of

587
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: the off season how high Lozardo's value is. Right now,

588
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: this is about as high as it will ever get

589
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: because of the years of control the season. He just

590
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 3: had low salary relatively speaking, at least for this year.

591
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Speaker 3: At the same time, as he said, as I mentioned

592
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Speaker 3: at the top of the pod, he kind of was

593
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: very transparent about one to stay a Marlin. And unfortunately

594
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: it doesn't seem like extension conversations have really gone anywhere.

595
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 3: So that's why yet to me, this one's not quite

596
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: as complicated as that Edward Cabrera's stuff. There's not quite

597
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: as much urgency because he does have those three full

598
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: years of control. He does so many things well that

599
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: it's like not unreasonable that think he could take a

600
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: little step up as a player from even where he

601
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: was last year. This doesn't doesn't this decision doesn't have

602
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 3: to be this trade doesn't have to be made this offseason.

603
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: It's just that this really felt like the window to

604
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 3: extend him if the Marlins are really interested in doing that.

605
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: And as long as he is not, you know, extended,

606
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: as long as there's no like firm commitments of him

607
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: long term, I think naturally these rumors are going to perpolate.

608
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 3: And I know people are tired of that. And a

609
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: reason why is that combination of no extension and because

610
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: of this Bendix's philosophy to would listen on almost everybody.

611
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: And yeah, as long as he does that, as long

612
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: as there are some sort of conversations happening in baseball,

613
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 3: those are eventually gonna trickle loud. And it has been

614
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 3: annoying that this storyline has been going on as well,

615
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: but at the same time it's been understandable.

616
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you're Peter Bennix, you would essentially

617
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Speaker 1: like the trade Blue Zard, especially at the value that

618
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: he holds right now, just coming off an over two

619
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: hundred strikeout season career high in nitnings pitch three years

620
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: of control, you know, in terms of the possible haul

621
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Speaker 1: that you could get, it could probably decrease depending on

622
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: the amount of years left on of control. So that's

623
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Speaker 1: why someone like Corbyn Burns was a lot cheaper than

624
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: Hazel Sizardo in this case. But Isaac, what's the case

625
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: to not trade Hazel Lozada? I think it's pretty evident.

626
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: But why wouldn't they?

627
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I see people on social media bringing up

628
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: the fact that he's a local kid grew up a

629
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Speaker 2: Marlins fan. To me, I think that's completely irrelevant to

630
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: whether or not you should keep him. I thought, I

631
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: think David Sampson made a great point a while ago

632
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: about just so, yeah, we would always go for those

633
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: local guys, and it just ended up being so irrelevant

634
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: for us to do that didn't make a difference at

635
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: all whether they wanted to be here or not, or

636
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: be back home. If anything, it was more of a

637
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: distraction to be back home and playing for your hometown team.

638
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: But anyway, Forraisis Lozada, he is the ace of your

639
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: staff this year. Yeah, I know your Repress is there,

640
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: Brex and Garrett is there, but Hazel Lozada is your

641
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: game one starter, your opening day starter. And we talk

642
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: about trading Cabrera and that really would diminish the depth.

643
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: Trading Hazel Wizarda would make this look a lot different,

644
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: And I agree with you, Kevin. The hall that Lozardo

645
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: could bring would be tremendous, and it can't be anything

646
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: close to what the Orioles gave up for Burns, because,

647
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: like I said, it's one year. Lozardo's got three, and

648
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: he's younger, and I would say, you know, he's probably

649
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: better right now than Gorvin Burns. I'm not a huge

650
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: govern Burns fan at the moment, so I think that,

651
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: and especially with what free agent starting pitchers are getting,

652
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: it has to be an armant a leg. It has

653
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: to be at the time what Christian Yelich brought in

654
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: from Milwaukee. It's got to be something like obviously better results,

655
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: but a crazy package like that of three or four

656
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: top one hundred guys for someone like Luzardo to me,

657
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: whether they trade it or not, shows what kind of

658
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: direction they're going in. And obviously hopefully they don't trade them,

659
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: because that wouldn't mean that they're not punting on twenty

660
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: twenty four. But I don't think they were too serious

661
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: and competing in this year.

662
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 1: I don't think you would be punting, but I mean,

663
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: just imagine the Hall just kind.

664
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Speaker 2: Of trading your ace. Of course you're pun thing trading

665
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: your ace after your other ace is sideline the whole year.

666
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: You're trading your number two. They're not You're not going

667
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: to compete.

668
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: I don't think you will. But I don't say you're

669
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: fully punting this season because you still have a good rotation.

670
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: You know, you still have depth, which not as good

671
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: as it was before obviously. But uh, let's think of

672
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: what this what what this could.

673
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: Have done for Miami.

674
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Sammy Samuel Bassaillo, who would immediately become the

675
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: number one prospect on this in this organization. You bring

676
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: in Joey Ortiz would become the shortstop for this team.

677
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: DL Hall, who would probably be I guess triple A,

678
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 1: a triple A pitcher for a little bit. See what

679
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: they got in him, because I know he was a

680
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: starter shifted to reliever real quick in Baltimore. Milwaukee's gonna

681
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: try to use him as a starter now, so and

682
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: god knows what else. I mean, this form system would

683
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: have really improved off of this trade as well as

684
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: the major league team, So you're really getting help from

685
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,239
Speaker 1: both sides. So uh, anyways, I think we can kind

686
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: of kind of running a long time here, so we

687
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: could go to the middle part of this article, where

688
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: they continue to mention infield help. They mentioned two options

689
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: Geo Orchel, who was reported that the Marlins had interested

690
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: him along with the New York Yankees, and the New

691
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: York Mets along with a med Rosario. What was made

692
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: very clear is that Orshello wouldn't be the primary shortstop.

693
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: He would just move around the infield a little bit

694
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: of first, a little bit of third, giving someone like

695
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: a Burger and Bell opportunities to dh and then at

696
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: med Rosario would be the primary shortstop of this team.

697
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: If you were to sign Rosario's kind of coming off

698
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: of a down year kind of feels like that's what

699
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: the type of profile someone like a Peter Bendix has

700
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: been looking at. Get a lot of guys bout a

701
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: down year, you'll get one who really succeeds, and then

702
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: that that's gonna be kind of the face of your

703
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 1: off season there. But Isaac med Rosario is still, once

704
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: upon a time, a really good player for the Mets

705
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: and a now you know early on the Guardians.

706
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you guys tuned into our stream last night

707
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: with mister Kyle Seelof, he seemed pretty confident that Miami

708
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: would be signing one these one of these free agent shortstops.

709
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: He mentioned Tim Anderson a few times. He was not

710
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: mentioned in the article by Craig Mission Barry Jackson. But

711
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,479
Speaker 2: I'm at Rosario what and jel Orshola was as well,

712
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: and I'm not too fond of either options. To be

713
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 2: honest with you, I would probably prefer Tim Anderson. You know,

714
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: he's gonna stake it short and I just think he's

715
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: got at least a little bit of a higher floor

716
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: than these two because I think I'm at Rosario. If

717
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: he just struggles, it's gonna be really, really bad. So

718
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: I think it's fascinating that Tim Anderson wasn't. I'll have

719
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 2: to follow up on that and see if there's any

720
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: news regarding Tim. But yeah, if you got to choose

721
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: between the two, you probably go with Rosario if we're

722
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: between him and Jail Kevin, because I think, again, higher

723
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: floor and he's definitely gonna play shortstop. And if they

724
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: do and ever really bring in a free agent shortstop,

725
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: what does that do for John Brady? He's set to

726
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: make three and a half million dollars, he would be,

727
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 2: you know, probably the everyday shortstop right now. This season

728
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: started today with some time given to Bruhan, with some

729
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: time given to Gordon and to others. So so I

730
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: think once they do bring in another shortstop, it'll be

731
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: no pun intended by by Bertie in that sense. So

732
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: it's gonna be interesting to see because already campus started

733
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: Kevin and there's they still don't have that set, so

734
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: we shall see how it goes.

735
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you would have to think this type

736
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: of a signing will happen before full squad. So and

737
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: the top of that, I do agree with you with

738
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: the Tim Anderson think. I'm pretty surprised Tim Anderson wasn't

739
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: mentioned in this article. Now, again, it could be the

740
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: case where Miami just doesn't have interest in him. But

741
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: Tim Anderson just a year ago hit over three hundred,

742
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: got on base at a really well good rate. The

743
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: power wasn't there, but man, was he a really good

744
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: offensive player. I know the defense has always been an

745
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: issue for him, but if you could at least fake

746
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: it or you know, hold it down for the most part,

747
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: that's what you kind of want. And then with Bertie

748
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: you also mentioned it. You have Xavier Edwards, you have

749
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: Vidal Bruhan, who Brewhan You're trying to see if he

750
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: bounces back. He has no options. He essentially has to

751
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: make this roster. So there's a lot to think about there.

752
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: You could probably moved. You can get a decent minor

753
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: league prospect back that you could put in plug into

754
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: your system and make that better already there, So I mean,

755
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: especially you know, you wouldn't you wouldn't want to trade

756
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: Berti because he's one of the older guys on the scene,

757
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: he's been here for a while.

758
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: But you have to think about it.

759
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: It could be a pretty good not big package but

760
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: means but a good prospect or two coming back, and

761
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: then you know, Gi Roshelle, you like, you've watched this

762
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: guy before living in New York. He had a really

763
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: he was having a very nice season for the Angels

764
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: before he went down with I think it was a

765
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: broken leg. But aside from that, he was coming off

766
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: a very good year for the Minnesota Twins thirteen home

767
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: runs of one, nineteen WRC plus does this didn't strike

768
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: out too much, really saw a huge improvement in the

769
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: in the strike up department, lowering his k percentage by

770
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: I believe six or seven percent, really close to that

771
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: ten and improving the walk percentage too. So a lot

772
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: to like with Gee Roschella formerly was supposed to be

773
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: kind of like the shortstop for for the next couple

774
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: of years for the Yankees, but things turned a different

775
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: way when they acquired Josh Donaldson.

776
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of these guys at this stage of the

777
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: off season, Yeah, it does seem like both would be

778
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: relatively low risk in terms of what you're saying them.

779
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 3: I mean, Barry and here is assuming that Rosario might

780
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: go for less than six million bucks on a one

781
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: year deal. I would have definitely taken the over on

782
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: that entering the off season just because of how few

783
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 3: other shortstops were out there. But as we get closer

784
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: to camp, teams have a little bit more leverage if

785
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 3: you could in with Orchelle because he's coming off that injury,

786
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 3: because he's a little bit older. Yeah, it's understandable that

787
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: he'll be relatively cheap one year deal either way with

788
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: either of these guys, I don't think there makes sense

789
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: to acquire both. They made some of the decisions they've

790
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: made already just offseason kind of signal that the roster

791
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: is close to full when it comes to I don't

792
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 3: think Bruhan is going to stand in the way of

793
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: them potentially getting somebody like this, but certainly Nick Gordon

794
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: will I mean the Nick Gordon trade was one where

795
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 3: they're penciling him in for a significant amount of at bats,

796
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: whether it comes probably in the outfit field, but potentially

797
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: that some infield positions as well went necessary. And aside

798
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 3: from that, they've Yeah, they have a lot of other guys,

799
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: including Xavier Edwards. I'd be fascinated with exactly what that

800
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: means if they signed one of these because Edwards doesn't

801
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 3: really have a whole lot to show offensively in the minors,

802
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: but you know, defensively that is another storyline. This camp

803
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: is like if he can give you anything at shortstop

804
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: potentially at all. It's been a little while since he

805
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: played there any considerable amount of time to his throwing issues. Yeah,

806
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: I'd be down for one of these guys to squeeze

807
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: into the mix, and to me, Rosario is one that

808
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: I would focus on more that.

809
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't never anything that went into deep negotiation processes,

810
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: you know, the negotiations, but there was there were rumblings

811
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: of the Marlins maybe flipping your Perez for Bobby Wood Junior.

812
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: Matt I don't want to spend any more time on

813
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: that than we have to other than to hopefully get

814
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: into agreement that the mar if they had an opportunity

815
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 3: to do that in a one for one deal, that

816
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 3: they should have done that. As much as everybody adoors

817
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 3: YEARI it is. Yeah, it's again every day shortstop who

818
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: last year, during the middle of last season through the

819
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 3: end of the season would establish himself as one of

820
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: the very best players in all baseball and to have

821
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: him with many years of control and an opportunity some

822
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: of that would be open to an extension if the

823
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: deal was right like that is, that was never gonna happen,

824
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: but if it did happen, the Marlins would probably be

825
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 3: on the right end of that blockbuster.

826
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean, I guess the only question I'd

827
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: bring up to you, Isaac is do you think the

828
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: Marlins would have given him a lover for two eighty eight?

829
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: Howd he come to South Beach.

830
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: I think the days of Miami handing out nine figure

831
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 2: deals or even honestly eight figure deals are are long gone.

832
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: So no, I don't think they would have extended Bobby

833
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,479
Speaker 2: Wood Junior, But man, they should have. If I guess,

834
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: like Elis if that was possible, they had to pull

835
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: the trigger one for one. That is a miraculous steal

836
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: to get arguably someone who might be the best shortstop

837
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: in baseball in a couple of years. He's just a

838
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 2: speed power combination. That's sure as a dream come true

839
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: for this team. Oh my goodness, just salivating at the

840
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: thought of Bobby Wood Junior being in Miami camp. But

841
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: that is not the case.

842
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the last thing. We'll quickly mention that

843
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: before we leave. Horse Hilaire did sign with the San

844
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: Francisco Giants three years, four forty two million dollars. From

845
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: what I have understood, the Giants were the only team

846
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: that offered him three years. The Mariners never made an offer.

847
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: Jorge Solaire, the Blue Jays offered him too. The Marlins

848
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: apparently offered him one year. He decided to go with

849
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: the three year deal. Evidently that's what his camp was

850
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: looking for this whole time. But according to the article,

851
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: the Marlins did obviously kind of keep the door open,

852
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: I think is the best way to say. They left

853
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: the door open. Maybe he wanted to come back. You

854
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: kind of predicted this deal would kind of go down

855
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: honestly almost exactly right. I think you had it. You

856
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: said he would get a Mitch Haangiger deal, same team.

857
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: Even so, what are your thoughts on Solarier's deal.

858
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: Well, it started with the decision not to issue him

859
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 3: the qualifying offer, and yeah, I was pretty adminant at

860
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 3: the time that he was going to blow pass that.

861
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: And he was a player as good as he is

862
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: a designated hitter where the market is very cruel to

863
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: d h's. It can take just one small slump depending

864
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: on how old you are, especially when you get deeper

865
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: in tier thirties, for the league to overlook you and

866
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: frame to get security for three years. That was understandably

867
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 3: his goal. First thing up, he was looking to maximize

868
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: his dollars, so I think with the Marlins under I

869
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: agree with the Marlins being willing to let him go

870
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 3: rather than pay market value, But there was that middle

871
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 3: ground where you could at least extend him that one

872
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 3: year offer, expecting him to decline and then recoup a

873
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: pretty significant draft pick in the twenty twenty four draft

874
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 3: for a team that is especially this past week or so,

875
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 3: as all the prospect rankings are filing out in farm

876
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: system rankings it's becoming a consensus that this system is

877
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: in shamble. So everything you can get like that, every asset,

878
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: a draft pick and the bonus pull money attached to

879
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: it is very important for rebuilding this team in a

880
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 3: sustainable way. So they passed on that. Craig Mish has

881
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 3: mentioned this, and I think some other people it's at

882
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: least some faction of people that thought that were worried

883
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 3: that he could accept it and not want to risk

884
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: that and being stuck with that. But it was my

885
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 3: contention that the market values some even higher than that

886
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 3: that he would and that his motivation was to maximize

887
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: his money. He had an opportunity to get more than

888
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: doubled the total dollars over the course of this long

889
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: term deal, and that he was going to make that decision.

890
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: So it's yeah, it's it's interesting that they did not

891
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: do that. I said at the time. I just think

892
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: that was an objective mistake and one that maybe was

893
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: just driven by the fact that this is a low

894
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 3: revenue team. They that it was not acceptable for them

895
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: to potentially have to pay him if he surprised people

896
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 3: and took that one year deal. And all I can

897
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 3: say to that is that it's it's disappointing that they would,

898
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: let's fear get in the way of them making the

899
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: what would have been the correct baseball decision.

900
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're sorry, Kevin. I think you're underestimating

901
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: a little bit how likely it was that he was

902
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: in a I thought there was a pretty I think

903
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: the AAV is four fourteen a year for what he

904
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: got with the Giants, you're gonna I think it was

905
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 2: twenty point five million dollars a qualifying offer. So Learira

906
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: said many times that he would love to come back

907
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: to Miami. He had a fantastic year, thirty six hom runs.

908
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 2: I don't think he's in the top that in twenty

909
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: twenty four US of Marlin. Maybe there's a chance he

910
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: does accept that. And then so you're really get you know,

911
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 2: it's easy to say this with other people's money, of course,

912
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: but you know if all the money you spend in

913
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: free to say this would count, I guess technically is

914
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: I guess maybe not. But with Solaire that's twenty million

915
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: dollars for one year. You have Josh Bellin for sixteen

916
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: and a half million. You have I've you go see

917
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: it for fourteen million It's just I don't blame them

918
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: as much for not extending that offer. It's a it's

919
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: a New York Yankees problem to get to offer it

920
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: and get the draft pick. It's just not a Miami

921
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: Marlins issue.

922
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: All right, we are here with Miami Marlins FS spaceman

923
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: Trey Mancini. Trey, thank you for the time take us

924
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: through these past couple of days. You signed with the Marlins.

925
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: Just we'll want into that process to join this team.

926
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, Mabe had shown interest throughout the offseason

927
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 4: and seemed like a great fit. And I've loved my

928
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 4: first couple of days here and I'm so stoked to

929
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 4: be a Marlin.

930
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: What have you taken away from these last couple days

931
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: here in Jupiter?

932
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 4: You know, every time you go to a new team,

933
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 4: you know, meeting a lot of new people, seeing some

934
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 4: familiar faces, but a lot of new ones. So it's

935
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 4: everybody's been incredible and it's been great getting to meet

936
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 4: everybody and just feels like a great clubhouse.

937
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 5: To be a part of.

938
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: You've been You've been in the Major League for a

939
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: long time. Now, you won a World Series. What do

940
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: you think you could provide to this not just a

941
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: group of first basemen, but this whole team as a whole.

942
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know, I've worked this offseason really

943
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 4: hard on addressing some things that you know, haven't gone

944
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 4: great the last couple of years for me. So I

945
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 4: feel like I'm in a great spot to bounce back

946
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 4: and provide a lot on the field and off for

947
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 4: this team.

948
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: Have you had the chance to talk to Skip maybe

949
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: Peter Bendix, Yeah.

950
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 4: A little bit. You know, obviously you know, met both

951
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 4: of them, and yeah, it seemed great. So, you know,

952
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 4: like I said, I'm just so excited to be here.

953
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: All right, we are here with Miami Marlins outfielder Victor

954
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: Mason Junior. Victor, thank you for the time you hear

955
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: in spring training big league camp. What are some goals

956
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: that you have set for yourself?

957
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 6: No, you was getting ready for this opportunity being alone time.

958
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 6: Have you said, I being like, this is gonna be

959
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 6: like my five for my six year, for my six

960
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 6: year here, Grateful with this opportunity with the team. I'm

961
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 6: excited at the same time too, even a gay earlier

962
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 6: beca of work. I want to feel like hum, I

963
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 6: always like fear here, you know, ready to work, Ready,

964
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 6: to give my one hundred percent and you know, let's

965
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 6: see what what happened.

966
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: They added you to the forty man roster this year.

967
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: How how big was that for you? And how much

968
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: confidence does that put into you going into the spring.

969
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 6: It was a great news. I'm not gonna say that

970
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 6: is not any confidence I go. I'm gonna go to

971
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 6: the field with my like give me one hundred percent.

972
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 6: I'm pretty stainful with the team for thinking of me

973
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 6: that that I'm a good option. But how I told you,

974
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 6: like ready to get the time of this opportunity and

975
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 6: that's it already.

976
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: Describe your season in Pensacola last year.

977
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 6: Oh, pretty nice, pretty good crowd, They're a pretty good season.

978
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 6: We we used miss in the last and the last

979
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 6: punch was the final, but pretty good. Feel like pretty

980
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 6: comfortable Floria much better like we all the time. But

981
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 6: pretty good.

982
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: It was.

983
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 6: How I toll you all the season ups and downs,

984
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 6: but thanks God, like it was I stay like healthy

985
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 6: and I give my one hundred percent. Thanks God. Like

986
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 6: the stats are there and you know, I give one

987
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 6: hundred percent to help the team. That's the most important.

988
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: Who are some players you're excited to kind of learn

989
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: from here during this spring.

990
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 6: No, everyone like mostly they all feel I'm going to

991
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 6: spend more time with them, like you know, yes, Abi,

992
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 6: I know all of them already, but for everyone, like

993
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 6: every time I'm here, I'm here to learn. I'm new.

994
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 6: I'm practically new on these how you say, but you know,

995
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 6: like I want to learn for everyone. How I toy

996
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 6: you on the interview before, you got to learn a

997
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 6: little bit. Uh every day, you know what I mean,

998
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 6: to try to be best, to try to be better

999
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 6: every day. So that's all that you gotta.

1000
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 3: Do, you know what I mean.

1001
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: And then finally just talk to us about that experience

1002
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: of being able to play for them.

1003
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, pretty good, pretty nice experience play with uh great players.

1004
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 6: Uh great. It was a great opportunity for us to

1005
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 6: be there. I'm tenfold for me the part of that team.

1006
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 6: But you know, like we've spent like youth two games

1007
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 6: but it was not that much. But by the way,

1008
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 6: pretty tankful with them. But now we're here, like now

1009
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 6: you want to be part of these obviously and get

1010
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 6: ready for it.

1011
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: All right, we're here with Marlins really of Anthony Moldonado. Anthony,

1012
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: thank you so much for the time take us through

1013
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: your reaction getting added to the forty man roster.

1014
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 7: It was great, man, I was I was happy that

1015
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 7: the Marlins chose to protect me. I felt like I

1016
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 7: put myself in a in a good position last year

1017
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 7: after the season I had, and I'm blessed.

1018
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 3: Man.

1019
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 7: I'm really really happy to be here and excited for

1020
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 7: the year.

1021
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: I think he dealt with some injuries last year but

1022
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: still had a great eas hear for at Triple Edge.

1023
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: Just take us through what you think you really improved in.

1024
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 7: I just trusted my stuff a lot more. Playing in

1025
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 7: the Classic really really helped me. Being with those guys,

1026
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 7: you know, the advice they gave me, trusting my stuff,

1027
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 7: knowing I was good enough to compete and you know, dominate.

1028
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 7: So I'm blessed Throwing quality pitches, I would say, you know,

1029
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 7: not going strike to ball, breaking balls and then using

1030
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 7: my fastball when it's right.

1031
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: And you know, I had a good year.

1032
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: You're here with big league camp. Just what are some

1033
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: things that you're looking forward to and maybe some goals

1034
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: that you have for yourself.

1035
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 7: I'm really just showing what I can do, not trying

1036
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 7: to do too much, you know, knowing the type of pitchure.

1037
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 7: I am and and showing what I can do, that's all.

1038
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: And have you thought about that moment probably pitching in

1039
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: Lound Deepo Park at some point without Marlin's uniform on.

1040
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, of course, I think we've all thought about it,

1041
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 7: and you know, I'm looking forward to it and hopefully

1042
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 7: it's here in the near future.

1043
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: All Right, we're here with Mimmy Marylands pitching prospect Patrick Monteverde. Patrick,

1044
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: thank you for the time you're You're an NRI believe

1045
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: the first time in your career. How does it feel.

1046
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: How was the conversation like, and what are some of

1047
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 1: your expectations into going into spring training?

1048
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 5: Well, it feels great, very thankful for the opportunity, very blessed.

1049
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 5: When yeah, when Hector called me, actually was the night

1050
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 5: before I was heading down here. I was pretty exciting

1051
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 5: moment for me and my family started last night together,

1052
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 5: so kind of got to go out on a high note.

1053
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 5: Looking forward to this and yeah, I'm just happy to

1054
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 5: be here and meet a lot of the guys, pick

1055
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 5: their brains.

1056
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 1: Talk to me about the futures game. You were there,

1057
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: you pitched, and I believe you closed it out. So

1058
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: just yeah, what was that experience, Like.

1059
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 5: The closing part was new for me. I'd never come

1060
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 5: into the back end of the bullpen. But the game

1061
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 5: in itself and just the whole experience was unbelievable. It

1062
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 5: kind of blew me and conversations because we were talking

1063
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 5: about it weeks leading up to it, and when we

1064
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 5: got there, just the fan atmosphere Seattle. They put on

1065
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 5: a great show. I got to meet a lot of

1066
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 5: cool guys in the clubhouse and then just that we're

1067
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 5: part of the Mariner's organization like Kicker for Junior prola

1068
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 5: Vanez Field, Camandez, guys like that, Adrian Beltrey, So I mean,

1069
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 5: it was it was really unbelievable.

1070
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: You have a lot of pitching in this organization, but

1071
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: you know Sandy here all though he's out, but Edward Gary,

1072
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you have a lot of guys here that

1073
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: you could kind of ask for advice. Anyone who you're

1074
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: looking for to kind of picking their.

1075
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 5: Brain, I'd say as a guard and he caught a

1076
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Speaker 5: great year together last year and he's extremely talented, and

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Speaker 5: just to kind of pick his brain about nothing too crazy,

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Speaker 5: just kind of be ups and downs and be having

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Speaker 5: flows of the in the big leagues and how to

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Speaker 5: handle it in any advice that you can offer.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we are here with Miami Marlins catcher Ben

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Speaker 1: at hosteler Bennett thinking for at the time, Uh, you're

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Speaker 1: in nlright for the first time, I believe. Just what

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Speaker 1: was a conversation like and now being here a part

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Speaker 1: of big league camp?

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Speaker 8: I mean, it was it was really cool. For me,

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Speaker 8: It was a it was a cool experience. You know,

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Speaker 8: I got a phone call and I was just expecting

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Speaker 8: to come down.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 8: Obviously we got a minor league street training, but you know,

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Speaker 8: to have the opportunity to be be a part of

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Speaker 8: this locker room, be a part of this clubhouse for

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Speaker 8: you know, for however long I'm here, it's a cool experience. Obviously,

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Speaker 8: I'm I'm excited for myself and uh, you know, hopefully

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Speaker 8: earn my way to whatever spot I get.

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Speaker 1: You caught a couple of bullpens thus far today. Just

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Speaker 1: what he what can he take away from those?

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Speaker 8: You know, I try not to think too much about it,

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Speaker 8: you know. Obviously for me, I'm I'm happy with how

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Speaker 8: far I've come catching wise, but obviously I have still

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Speaker 8: a long way to go.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 8: And then and then went well, So I'm encouraged with

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Speaker 8: that and I'm just happy to keep going every day.

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Speaker 1: Would have been some of your biggest I guess, learning curves,

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Speaker 1: learning how to catch.

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Speaker 8: I mean for starters, I think just how fast everybody throws.

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Speaker 8: Obviously you see it when you're hitting, but it's a

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Speaker 8: lot different when you're catching. So for me, that was it,

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Speaker 8: you know, just being able to control of pitching staff,

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Speaker 8: to uh, to learn how to call a game, you know,

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Speaker 8: the ins and outs of catching that you know, I

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Speaker 8: wouldn't normally have thought of when I was playing in field.

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Speaker 1: Talk to me a little bit about your transition from

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Speaker 1: HIGHA to double A. Kind of felt like your production

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Speaker 1: really went up when you when you arrived at Pensacola.

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Speaker 1: What what What were some things to be done differently

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Speaker 1: and just that overall transition.

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Speaker 8: You know, obviously sometimes all it takes is just getting

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Speaker 8: in a new location, you know, change some things up

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Speaker 8: like that. But you know, I did did change a

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Speaker 8: couple of things screen wise, made a couple of adjustments.

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Speaker 8: Helped give myself a better chance to to be on

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Speaker 8: time for pitches and to uh, you know, to do

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Speaker 8: some damage.

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Speaker 1: Alrighty, Anyways, I think we'll wrap it up on that

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Speaker 1: almost an hour a long recording and then think it

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Speaker 1: would go that long, but a lot to talk about

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Speaker 1: Isaac Eli.

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Speaker 2: Any last things that.

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Speaker 1: You guys want to mention before we hope, well, I

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Speaker 1: don't even know when we'll be back on, but probably

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Speaker 1: after full squad, So any anything else, Yeah, it'd.

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Speaker 3: Be nice if the show is on a consistent routine. Again,

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Speaker 3: the spring training. We're going to do it bigger than

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Speaker 3: ever before in terms of how we're diving into this,

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Speaker 3: bring you all angles of the team and bring you

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Speaker 3: inside that clubhouse up in Jupiter. So we appreciate everybody's

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Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah. I think we'll wrap it up there,

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Speaker 1: Isaac from me like myself, we'll say we'll see you

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Speaker 1: guys all in two weeks. I hope that's the case.

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Speaker 1: So as always, peace out and go fish.