1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome back to Unfiltered, the JBL podcast 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: and iHeartRadio production in partnership with JBL. I am your host, 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Betty who. I am so excited about today's guest in 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: today's episode because something I have been thinking a ton 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: about recently is how you can share and set an 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: example for people without putting yourself too much on blast. 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: You know, how do you come to reconcile the balance 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: between giving yourself to the people who follow you and 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: see you and want to know more about you, while 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: still holding onto a little bit of it for yourself. 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Balance is actually a very big theme of our episode today. 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: So I could not be more excited to introduce the 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: one and only Miss Carrie Colby. Oh my gosh, you guys, 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: a seriously talented drag performer. As you already know, she 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: is as fine as she is fierce. You may know 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: her from season fourteen of Rupaulse drag Race. Oh my God. 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: Carrie is also an open book, which is one of 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: my favorite parts about her. She has used her platforms 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: like drag Race to share her life story and via 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: others with her visibility, whether friends or fans from the 21 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: legendary House of Colby. Yes, Carrie is a trans queen 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: trail blazer and a lip sync legend and now one 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: of my new best friends. So let's just get right 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: into it, shall we. Carrie Colby, I can't believe you're 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: here with me today and we're doing this together. 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: We are metaverse and connected, and I feel like it's 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: in our destiny to be connected often and I like it. 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: I'm here for it. 29 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 4: I know. 30 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: We got to tell the people we were literally just 31 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: together a couple of days ago playing a show and Dallas, 32 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: just you know, holding it down for the people in the. 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 4: Heat, sweating it out for the South. Honey, that is 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 4: exactly what we really did. I remember seeing you come 35 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 4: off stage and you were like, please don't hug me. 36 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 4: I'm disgusting, and I was like, I feel you. I'm 37 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: about to be that way drenched. We call it the 38 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 4: splash zone on tour when we get really hot. If 39 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 4: you're in the first four rows, we're doing turns, we're 40 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 4: moving and just it'll come off of our bodies and 41 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 4: it will hit you in the splash zone. 42 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: So you're welcome. I've been so excited to I'm like, 43 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, of course, now we're besties because we played 44 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: a show together and we go with so far back now. 45 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: But I genuinely believe that you were the perfect person 46 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: to be here with us doing this together, because this 47 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: entire podcast is supposed to be about being authentic and 48 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: trying to find yourself and living out loud. 49 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: If you will let me show you my true colors, honey, please. 50 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: So I guess let's like start at the very beginning, 51 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: which is, how did you? I know this is the 52 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: obvious question, but how did you start doing drag? I 53 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: want to know sort of where we all began here. 54 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's a long, long journey. But I 55 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: feel like any feminine spirited individual that resides in good 56 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 2: old Texas, specifically the Dallas Metroplex, there shall be some 57 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: cross dressing, I understand, And I feel like that's kind 58 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: of like, in a really funny way, how everything started 59 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: for me. I feel like I always knew that there 60 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: was a very feminine energy and entity, and in my 61 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: story and my journey, I think my biggest story arc, 62 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: or my biggest antagonist, really was my trauma. Because I 63 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: always felt to do one thing, I always felt to 64 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: be one way. I always felt to explore something, and 65 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 2: I was never allowed to. I was never encouraged to. 66 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: In fact, I was punished oftentimes for that. And so 67 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: my journey into drag and everything really started to take 68 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: hold of itself when I was a little underage. But 69 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: we were in Dallas around fifteen to eighteen, and I 70 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: was finally in a place where I was in my 71 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: own zone. I was thankfully living with like a roommate 72 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: who saved my life literally, but I was not looking 73 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: over my back, like, am I gonna get beat by 74 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: my parents for playing with this barbie doll? 75 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: Am I going to have to. 76 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: Write a whole Psalms nineteen fifty two verse? Because I 77 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: wanted to play with some girls hair and. 78 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: Like see what it feels like? Because I like that shit. 79 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: But I started to like finally tiptoe out, and it 80 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: took baby steps. It took putting a beautiful acrylic piece 81 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: of plastic hair on my head for one time. It took, 82 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: you know, getting the most glamorous handmade gown from somewhere 83 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: in Asia at a BCBG boutique. Honey, oh hello, you 84 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: know that was my first dress ever. So there was 85 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: a lot of stages to that. But I think drag 86 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: really started from my mind, and it started from me 87 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: stepping out and experimenting and exploring with my feminine side 88 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: and building on that. Now, there was a lot to 89 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: build because it was definitely a little humorous at first. 90 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: Well it's so special. I mean, like, look at where 91 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: you are now, especially coming from a place where your aunt, 92 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: your drag has come from, this place of repression, in 93 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: place of I cannot be myself. Yeah, I'm so proud 94 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: and happy and so glad that you put yourself in 95 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: a position to be able to succeed and be yourself. 96 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: And hello Victory, it's me. 97 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: Hello, we here. 98 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: Yes. 99 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: I love hearing especially in queer trans people of color, 100 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 2: all the beautiful layers and spectrums of rainbow. I love 101 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: hearing about those success stories of someone having a moment 102 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: where they find themselves at a very early age. But 103 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 2: I think the one very important part of my story 104 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: is especially coming from a person of colors perspective. Unfortunately, 105 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: my story is so common, and that is the problem. 106 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 2: I think that there's suppression in a lot of the 107 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 2: umbrella of people that come from a repressive background and 108 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: very religiously structured. You know, that's our story, and I 109 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: love that I'm able to give that story a little 110 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 2: extra layer of life. 111 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing that. Thank you. This is the 112 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: generation now where we get to break the cycle. Will 113 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: you like paint me a picture as far as how 114 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: it started, like you know, you said, there's a little 115 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: piece of Coola care here and maybe a little lips, 116 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: Like where'd you learn to do makeup? Are you a 117 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: YouTube makeup queen? Like how did you sort of grow 118 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: starting from like the piece of a Coola care that 119 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: you were putting on to being this like completely evolved, 120 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: Like you know your look, you know your shape, you 121 00:05:59,360 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: know what You're a gift. 122 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: So we're talking like twenty thirteen fourteen. 123 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: This was the era of like the very like made 124 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: up super tan, gaudy Barbie doll DMUs This was very 125 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 2: like Kim Kardashian's like glam Lashes era. This was Lily Galici, 126 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: this was Angel Brinks. Beyonce was popping off with her 127 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 2: fashions and stuff. So it was like all the girls 128 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: were entering their like glamy Barbie emulated era. And I 129 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: was obsessed with that because it was the most feminine 130 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: thing I had seen, and I wanted to take inspiration 131 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: from that. 132 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: To hopefully utilize that. 133 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: I got into working in makeup as soon as I 134 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: turned eighteen, So that was where I started kind of like, Okay, 135 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: I know I like. 136 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 3: Being pretty, I know I like being feminine or whatever. 137 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: How can I learn to get a better skill set 138 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: around it? So I started doing cosmetics as soon as 139 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: I turned eighteen. 140 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: I worked for Clinique. 141 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: When I tell you, I had the most beaten bitches 142 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: walking out of Sanika, like you would have thought it 143 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: was a Matt counter with a white co on, And 144 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 2: I think that kind of got me in trouble at 145 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: the time, But. 146 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: You know, I made it my own thing. I was like, 147 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: we gonna make you fabulous. 148 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: You were being authentically you, no matter where you were going. 149 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: Authentically be in good old Texas hoy holding it town. 150 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: So I went from there and then I when I 151 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: moved to LA and I was like eighteen nineteen at 152 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: that point, I never really like lost focus of like 153 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: I want to focus on learning the aesthetic that I'm 154 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: obsessed with. So I went in from there and worked 155 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: at tom Ford Beauty Charlotte Tilbury and just started shaping 156 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: my artistry skill set more and more and more cleaner, cleaner, cleaner, 157 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: and eventually there came point where I was like being 158 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: the kind of girl I want to be, and we 159 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: were still doing drag at this point, Like the whole 160 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: drag into transition thing was a trauma Lama in itself 161 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: that came from my brother passing and me being like 162 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: I need to get myself together because he's not here 163 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: no more. That's an extension of my family. It's gone 164 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: and what am I? 165 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: Where am I? What am I doing? 166 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: But to that point, it was like I need more 167 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: money to be able to afford this fantasy, these shoes, 168 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: because at that point it went from acrylic care to 169 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: if it's not human hair, don't touch me with it. 170 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you know, no more shaking goes no. 171 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: More, this ain't no chicken shit shake of go hud 172 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: if we don't got time for that. And that was 173 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: when I kind of went from working in a beauty 174 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: counter and doing other people's faces, like. 175 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: I still wanted to keep up with that. 176 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: My focus on the fantasy that I liked never ever changed, 177 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: and at that point I was like taking more reference 178 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: from YouTube and beauty influencers, cause that was like, I think, 179 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: what are we talking? At that point like twenty seventeen eighteen. 180 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: It's beautiful to see that that's something that I remember 181 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: when I was because that's again I'm on that edge 182 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: between when that Internet sensation of be who you are 183 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 2: broke out and like before that, especially come from the South, 184 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: it was like, no, we got some rules for you 185 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: because you need you need to follow these patterns to 186 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,599 Speaker 2: be what you're supposed to be, and if you're not 187 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: what you're supposed to be, then now you're a problem. 188 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: So I'm so curious about how it feels for you now. 189 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: The show we just played in dollars together, like talk 190 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: about queer. It's like exclusively just like the gayest night ever. 191 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: It was a gay softball league. We played the after party. 192 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: It was like this big, fun queer night. When you 193 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: go back to Texas when you're there, do you feel 194 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: like this push and pull between like, oh my god, 195 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: I had so much trauma here, but also look at 196 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: how beautiful this queer community is. Like what's your experience 197 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: going home now off to having kind of this entire 198 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: life experience you've had where you really do get to 199 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: be yourself when you've come to terms with who you are. 200 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 2: You explained it perfectly, you know, like you hit it 201 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 2: right on the spot about that there's there is a 202 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: lot of trauma, so it's almost like I'm on the 203 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: verge of a panic attack everywhere I go because it's. 204 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: A familiar street, I remember what happened. 205 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: And even some of my trauma came from my queer 206 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: community because you know, going back a few years ago, 207 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: there was a lot less evolving. People were projecting and 208 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: they were masking. 209 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: Especially about trans people. I feel like that has been 210 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: a really new space where the queer community has had 211 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: to be like, we have to make room for the 212 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: trans community here, because like that's the whole point exactly. 213 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: And education is key. 214 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,239 Speaker 2: Feel like a lot of times, especially in southern queer communities, 215 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 2: people love to learn about themselves, you know, like I 216 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: don't want to put nobody on the spot, but like 217 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: the white twinks, like whatever, they would learn specifically things 218 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: that applied to being a twink and being Caucasian, and 219 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: that was their ministry, that was their struggle, and that 220 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: was their thing. 221 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: Everyone's the main character in their own life. 222 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: They were all yeah. 223 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: And I think that that's something that really has changed 224 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: in Texas since I was there, where I think there's 225 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: been enough people coming in from other places it has 226 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: reshaped it a little bit. The people do seem to 227 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: be in a much better headspace. 228 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: What's the balance for you between like living by example 229 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: and having sort of it's definitely a bud and to bellance. Yeah, 230 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm always trying to find my balance for that. So 231 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: I wonder how you feel about where you sort of 232 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: stack up and what's the right chemistry for you to 233 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: feel like you're doing something really important while also like 234 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: being an entertainer that's like making people have fun. 235 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: The way I look at it is number one me 236 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: like the product or the visual people see, this was 237 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: built over time. 238 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: There was a lot to me. 239 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: The brand, yeah, brand Bronze all and it the Grounds brand, 240 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: but it was built. You know. 241 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: This was my way of fixing my insecurities. 242 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: But before that, there was a lot of trauma that 243 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: made me insecure and I had to learn how to 244 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: work out of that and in my life personally. My 245 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: story is not just like I said, It's not just 246 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: like a I thought, it snapped it, I wanted, I 247 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: got it success amazing. It was a lot of things 248 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: that were a little hard, and also beyond that, things 249 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 2: that were completely out of my control. 250 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: When I think about. 251 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: That, I really tried hard not to allow an ego 252 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: to really take over a little. Egos, Fine, you gotta 253 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: have a sense of self. But I think for me, 254 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: I'm always coming from a place of humility and humbleness, 255 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: because this wasn't something that was just. 256 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: Like I want to do this and I'm going to 257 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: do it. Period. 258 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: It was so many things that came to me sometimes 259 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: outside of me that I'm like, Okay, I'm part of 260 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 2: something bigger, and that's where my focus always is, and 261 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: I always think about the young me. Balance is something 262 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: we're going to chase to the day that we stop breathing. 263 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a Libra. I'm always my whole life 264 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: is about trying to figure out the balance. 265 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: She's all about balance, Darling. 266 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: Well, so speaking of that and kind of like also 267 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: out of just curiosity for me, Yeah, where do you 268 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: find especially you've gone through so much in your gender 269 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: expression right finding out what makes you feel the most 270 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, so in all of that, you've gone 271 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: through this whole journey from like drag was sort of 272 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: the first like this exciting place that made you feel 273 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: like really safe, and then this is, you know, shaped 274 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: and grown and now you've transitioned and you are you know, 275 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to put words in your mouth, but 276 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: living happily in this new kind of like world and 277 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: body and self and here you are and you've arrived. 278 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: Inside of you, is there still this sort of divine 279 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: feminine divine masculine? Like is there a balance still inside 280 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: of you that feels or are you like, honey, she 281 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: is one hundred percent feminine or are you are there 282 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: still things that you like hold on to from your 283 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: masculine self, like I'm really curious about that. 284 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: To me, my transition really only happened in me being 285 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: one hundred percent authentic, honest and real with myself. And 286 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: there are girls out there that like they ran from 287 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: their previous gender. They couldn't do it. It was it 288 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: was trauma, never never, never never they got to be woman. 289 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 2: There's no balance for me personally. I've never rejected or 290 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: turned a blind eye to my previous self. I just 291 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 2: had a whole thing on Twitter where I addressed my 292 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: old self as my dead twin brother, because it literally 293 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: was like my other half that got severed and dearly beloved, 294 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 2: deally departed. I don't identify with that anymore. But that 295 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that I'm going to erase everything I learned 296 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: because I didn't transition until the pandemic. The pandemic really 297 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: got us in us, right. I was battling doing that, 298 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: but I was afraid. I was terrified of people's opinions. 299 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: I was terrified of what people might say. I was 300 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: terrified of that awkward, ugly state. But when the lockdown happened, 301 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: I could not stand being around myself without exploring. And 302 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: part of that exploration was defining my masculine and where 303 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: that is, and defining my feminine where that is and 304 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: where I want both to. 305 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: Be well and also, like you know, giving yourself the grace. 306 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 307 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: Moure on unfiltered the JBL podcast after a quick break 308 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: and now back to the show. Okay, I have to 309 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: ask you, like just I feel like this is the 310 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: question that I feel like everyone's going to want to know, 311 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: So we have to jump here. 312 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: Jump honey. 313 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: Iconically, you wore j Lo's green Milan Fashion Week dress, 314 00:14:54,720 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: the vesach On rupaul'sdrag racequtore girl, Toney, what does that 315 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: moment even feel? I can't even like that's it feels 316 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: like there's so much. It's like RuPaul. You're on RuPaul, 317 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: so you're like whoa. And then it's like you're in 318 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: the Jalo dress and you're like whoa, and it's just 319 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of layers of whoa there. So 320 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: I just want to check in on how you felt 321 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: about it. 322 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: And then you had to lip sync in it, so 323 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 3: you're like whoa, whoa? 324 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: Because that dress be going places, you know what I mean. 325 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: That dress is made to move, but it's not meant 326 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: to do no super Bowl halftime performance. 327 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: I'll tell you that. 328 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: It was a bucket list item to even be affiliated 329 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: with Jaylo. Like I said, I'm a Leo, She's a Leo. 330 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: I've always really appreciated her. 331 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: I ride for Jalo so hard, it was amazing. 332 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: And I happened to have a very close friend, my 333 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: house brother, mister August. 334 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,359 Speaker 3: Shout out to August Getty, Honey. 335 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love August. Okay, this is a 336 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: connection for us. I didn't okay, I didn't realize. I'm 337 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: obsessed with August. Yeah, I love love love Okay, great, 338 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: we're here. 339 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: He's everything everything. So the dress was actually his and 340 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: when we got that list. I was aware that he 341 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: recently had acquired that dress, so I was like, like, 342 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: I know that's his baby, but like, do you think 343 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: is it any way could patually wear it? The show's 344 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: already like, oh my god, I'm here. This is something 345 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: I've watched as a kid. Helped me out a lot 346 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: when I was dealing with my crazy moments in my 347 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: early ages in Dallas, and it's all coming together and 348 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: it really made me feel so I think that was 349 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: one of the first times, which is kind of sad, 350 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: but it's just honest and reality. That was one of 351 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: the first times that I looked at myself and I 352 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: not only felt beautiful, but I felt proud, like I 353 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: achieved a dream. I'm living a dream out loud and 354 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: this is everything. Definitely thought that I was gonna win 355 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: that challenge and then I got told nope, it's time 356 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: to lip sync. And then imagine it was just panic, 357 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: but almost like exhilarating because I'm like, if there's one 358 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: thing people gon't pay attention to with this, and it opened. 359 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: Doors for literally to be here. 360 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio. I opened for j Loo herself because Icon Awards 361 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: this year. 362 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: Did you get to meet her? Meet her say hi 363 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: to her. 364 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: We had a moment because she actually came in early. 365 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: Leo's one thing you're gonna get them on. 366 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 2: No matter how successfull they are, if it comes to 367 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: iconography about their life, they're about it. 368 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 3: They are committed. So she flew. 369 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: She literally had flown in a little early for dress 370 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: rehearsals to make sure and we had so much representation 371 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: in the queer culture that was embodying her, her eras 372 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: and all that. 373 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 3: So she was there like on them like I turned 374 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: this way. I didn't spend this gay. 375 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: I love that you if you're gonna snap, snap with 376 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: this hand, honey, snap with one finger less like she 377 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 2: wanted to see herself so specific. 378 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: I love that. 379 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 4: Yes. 380 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: And when it came to her and I, I guess 381 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: it's a good thing. She didn't say much because she 382 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 3: had no notes, which is good. I'm honored, but. 383 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: Like to me, I was like, can you make it? 384 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: Give me one though, and she was like no, no notes, 385 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: Like okay, wow, just do you honestly put that on 386 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: your tombstone? No notes? Jennifer long Jlo told me she 387 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: had no notes, Like, yes, that's iconic. Okay, So speaking 388 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: of lipsync, what a crazy moment. Do you have a 389 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: song that is your Like? This is kind of like 390 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: I feel like the drag equivalent of like, what's your 391 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: go to karaoke song? What's your like lip sync for 392 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: your life? I'm gonna I'm gonna fuck everybody up right 393 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: now with this lip sync song. 394 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 3: It depends on my energy. 395 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: I have so many different inspirations, but like, if you 396 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 2: want me to go to somewhere, I don't even know 397 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: where I'm going, give me Whitney understandable. 398 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: Are you like an uptempo Whitney or are you like 399 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: a n night kind of Whitney. 400 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 3: I'm a little bit of all of it. You can 401 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 3: give me Queen of the Night because I love that 402 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 3: reminds me of my upbringing. You can also hit me 403 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 3: I have nothing, Oh my god, and just like believe 404 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: it on the floor. 405 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: Whitney's voice speaks to my soul in that powerful way, 406 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: so I completely understand. And just remembering her story, it's 407 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: just like I know, oh, she lives on in us. 408 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: So did you have a moment where you were like, 409 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: I have to be more honest. Have you always just 410 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: been super comfortable sharing yourself? How has it changed your 411 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: relationship to performance. Does it make you feel more invested 412 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: in it because you're like these people know me now. 413 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: I just want to know about like your relationship to 414 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: sort of sharing in that way and how it has changed. 415 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 3: You completely completely well. 416 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: I always felt like I had nothing to really hold 417 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: on too for myself, because like every time I would 418 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: try to find something, it was taken from me, or 419 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: I'd be punished, or it just would end up collapsing. 420 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 2: But I think one thing that's happened is I used 421 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: to do it out of like a coping mechanism. I 422 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: used to do it to like be Okay, I'm just 423 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: gonna tell you everything so you can't like come back 424 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: and like judge me, because like if you know everything now, 425 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: then you're not really going to be able to like. 426 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 3: Say I didn't know that about you EO later. And 427 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 3: now I'm at a. 428 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: Point where it's like, no, I've lived. I feel a 429 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 2: lot more comfortable now with people. I don't feel anxiety, 430 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 2: like everyone's staring at me, waiting for me to mess 431 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 2: up or waiting for me to do something wrong so 432 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: that they can laugh at me. 433 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: I feel like now it's like they can laugh all 434 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: they want at. 435 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: The end of the day, my head, my heart, my 436 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: spirit was in a space of giving and sharing and 437 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 2: the people who received it who I'm there for, And 438 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: it's it is scary, that's that's scary territory. But it's 439 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: like you always have to bring yourself back to that, 440 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: like we only do this once. Yeah, even though in 441 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 2: our life it feels like we live so fast, we 442 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: live so many lives at one time, it feels like 443 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 2: there's a sense of rehearsal, there's a sense of preparedness. 444 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 3: That it takes us out of that space. 445 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: But you got to remember, we do this one time, 446 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: you know, we do this one time consciously in this moment, 447 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 2: in this space, being exactly who we are at this moment. 448 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: Always just give it your best because you never know, 449 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: but you always should just give everything you got because 450 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: you want to look back and be proud, you know. 451 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, So how long does your full face 452 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: take for a show? Like what's your pre show timing? 453 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 3: Do you want just face or like head to toe outfit, hair, everything? 454 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: I want the like head to toe show getting ready? 455 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 1: And then what's your like our pre show? How are 456 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: we like walking on the stage? For me, I make 457 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: everybody dance to music and then we all take it 458 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: tequila shot, Like, what's your version of that? 459 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: Okay, yes, the kila shot. 460 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 2: I'm very much as tequila shot type person too. It 461 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: gets them nerves down. Yes, hella, I don't like to 462 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: be brushed, so I will literally wake up earlier to 463 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 2: enjoy the process and take a little longer for me 464 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: head to toe getting ready. It depends on how complex 465 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 2: it is, but like for example, today, I think this 466 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 2: took like two and a half hours, three hours, which 467 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: is about my normal. And then if it's like a 468 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 2: big event, we add a little more to it, if 469 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 2: there's more moving part five. 470 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love a good five hour moment. 471 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: People don't realize how committed you have to be and 472 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: how much energy it takes to just get ready before 473 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: you're even starting the thing that you're supposed to go do, 474 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: Like especially for a gorgeous woman like you who is 475 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: doing art, You're going, this is ought, this is I'm 476 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: serving something here. My body is my temple, it's my expression. 477 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 2: I'll be honest, there's times just in getting done, I'd 478 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: be exhausted, like am I really about to go do more? 479 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 4: Like? 480 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 3: Whoa just getting into this is like. 481 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: Ooh, I'm ready for bed now great? 482 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 3: Right, like okay, got ready. I feel like I did 483 00:21:59,000 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 3: set the tonnel, go to bed. 484 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 2: But I feel like another part that helps me deal 485 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,239 Speaker 2: with that sometimes is that you know, I'm a lot 486 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: more comfortable and now I used to run away from 487 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: who I was every day natural because my everyday person 488 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: is a Lease and my stage ensemble is Carrie. Right. 489 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: I used to run from who a Lease was so 490 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: I could go be Carrie because Carrie felt like a 491 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: superhero to me, and that was exhausting. 492 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: It's Alma to put on and be like no nobody 493 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: can touch carry absolutely. 494 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: But I think in making this a more everyday moment 495 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: right where where this is our life, I've had to 496 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 2: be a lot more comfortable. So I'm not running and 497 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 2: getting ready like oh my god, I have to fix everything. 498 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 3: I hate what I got. I don't like this. I 499 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 3: got to hurry up and be my superhero version of myself, 500 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 3: for I'm not anything. 501 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: The more that I've relaxed and like I'm me regardless, 502 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: the more that I'm like, Okay, I could get through this, 503 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 2: I'm not as tired because I'm not running. I am 504 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: pursuing a destiny, but I'm not running from anything, and 505 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 2: it helps. 506 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,120 Speaker 1: Oh so beautiful when you arrived there, what a beautiyo 507 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: to full place to be. 508 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 3: You walk in yours like, oh here I am perceive me? 509 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, Well my last question to top us all off, 510 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: tap me honey. Speaking of being inspirational, you inspire me, 511 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: Thank you. I want to know what inspires you or like, ooh, 512 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: this makes me want to grow and do all of this, 513 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: Like what is the stuff that's making you feel coming 514 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: outside of yourself even. 515 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 2: More Absolutely, I am a huge believer in the power 516 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 2: of manifesting, and I'm a huge believer in the power 517 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: of set unrealistic goals for yourself because I want to 518 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: be able to look back in thirty years from now 519 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: and be like we were here and now we're here, 520 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: and that pushes me. The people around me push me. 521 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: And also like opening up more, doing more. Doing the 522 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 2: very things that scare me has now become what I 523 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: love and even like right now I'm finally taking the 524 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: leap and I'm investing into getting into some music. I'm 525 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 2: working on a loaf and that's really exciting. It's really 526 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: really exciting. It's a passion that I've had for a 527 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 2: long time, been very kind of shy about and stepping 528 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: into that. I'm so excited to see what that world 529 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: is going to be like because it's uncharted territory. 530 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: The sky is literally the limit for you. And if 531 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: you just tell yourself this is where I'm headed, and 532 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to get there, and everybody just wait and see, 533 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: it absolutely will happen. There is no doubt in my mind. 534 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: Sisters, sister's thriving. 535 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: Honey, I'm so grateful for your time and energy, and 536 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: you're just so I really have enjoyed our time together. 537 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: Thank you, Miss Betty, thank you, thank you very much. 538 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: All Right, that's it. I want to thank Carry Colby 539 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: again for joining me today. Alise, my absolute gorgeous, gorgeous girl. 540 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: We love to see a queen at work. I am 541 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: so inspired and moved by her authenticity and her ability 542 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: to be herself and share herself and sharing the parts 543 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: of herself that were really difficult things that she overcame 544 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: and how she's become this incredible, living, out loud person 545 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: that I think should inspire us. 546 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 3: All. 547 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: So, that's it for today's episode, But join me again 548 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: next week when we talk about being an elite athlete 549 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: while staying authentic. When the game is over, and don't 550 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: forget to join in on the conversation. 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Our EP of post production is Matt Stillo. 561 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: Our editor is Sierra Spreen. This episode was written and 562 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: produced by Sierra Kaiser. Special thanks to our friends at 563 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: JBL Initiative and Donna