WEBVTT - Open the Danged Schools!!!  Kevin Faulconer Talks to Armstrong & Getty

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<v Speaker 1>The Armstrong and Getty Show, Open the Dang schools. We

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<v Speaker 1>implore everyone we can get our hands on open the

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<v Speaker 1>dang schools well. To discuss that and more, please welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the show. San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulkner. San Diego

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<v Speaker 1>largest city in the US with a Republican mayor. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a fabulous city in which to live, work, in vacation,

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<v Speaker 1>but like any other city, it has some pretty serious challenges.

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Mayor, how are you, sir, gen? Good morning, Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for thanks for having me back. It's always a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're turned out. I know, how how much longer

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<v Speaker 1>do you stay in office? I'll have a two more

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<v Speaker 1>months and then, not that anybody's counting. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>your cardboard box ready for when they march you out

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<v Speaker 1>with your personal effects? We'll start We'll start getting ready soon.

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<v Speaker 1>But take a lot of toner from the copy or

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I would do. So different places all around

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<v Speaker 1>the country have different school situations. Someplace or open, some

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<v Speaker 1>places or closed. What's the situation in the San Dieo

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<v Speaker 1>Diego area currently? Yeah, they're trying to bring back some

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<v Speaker 1>of the folks at this point, Um and I've been

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<v Speaker 1>pushing real hard. Look, we need our schools open, We

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<v Speaker 1>need we open for for all the kids. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we want a safe environment for obviously for teachers, for parents,

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<v Speaker 1>for the kids. But but the reality is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>distance learning is not the same as in person learning

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<v Speaker 1>with a teacher. It doesn't work hardly at all. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a disaster now it is. It's not working, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think you've seen that across the board. And so one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that I've been pushing on very strongly

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<v Speaker 1>here in San Diego is to try to get everybody

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<v Speaker 1>around the table, whether it's you know, the teachers, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's folks on the district working with people from the state,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pushing very hard to getting us locations, to

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<v Speaker 1>getting us to testing. I want to take everything, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>any possible barrier off the table because I want kids

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<v Speaker 1>in the classroom now. I want the teachers to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to provide the in classroom instruction because as each

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<v Speaker 1>month that we go by, I think the reality is

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<v Speaker 1>our kids are gonna fall further and further behind in California, certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not something anybody wants to see. Well, And

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<v Speaker 1>the data is so solid at this point that schools,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly elementary elementary schools have not become super spreaders. They're

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<v Speaker 1>just not. So what's the argument for keeping the school's closed? What,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what are you up against? Well, look, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's just exactly that you're looking at other schools

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<v Speaker 1>that have started to safely reopen. I think that's incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>important because then you have some real world experience. And

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<v Speaker 1>so from my standpoint, it's about let's let's make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that we're taking the you know, the hyperbole off the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have communication, Let's get everybody around the table, let's

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<v Speaker 1>have trust. But let's agree all of us that the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing for kids is to get them back in

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<v Speaker 1>the classroom. And and you know what, guys, I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to a lot of teachers out there. They're

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go back and I and they want to

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<v Speaker 1>be back in the classroom and I and I get that,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think we need to we need to

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<v Speaker 1>keep pushing. Uh. Look, not not only am I a mayor,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a parent, and and so we we need to

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<v Speaker 1>we need to do a lot different than we are

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<v Speaker 1>with one goal. How do we get our how do

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<v Speaker 1>we get our kids back in the classroom. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and we talk a lot about obviously economic development, reopening

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<v Speaker 1>our economy, doing it safely. That's absolutely dependent upon kids

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<v Speaker 1>being back in school. With all of the challenges that

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<v Speaker 1>our parents are facing day in and day out about

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<v Speaker 1>childcare and other things. So is one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>issues that we have to hit head on with a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of urgency, such a urgency that says, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>too long, let's get our kids back and let's get

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<v Speaker 1>our schools open. Right. For the listeners who may not

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<v Speaker 1>know the mayor's act, he is a he is a

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable man, he is a dealmaker. He's an non bomb schucker.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why he's not kicking the teachers unions right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll we'll do that after he gets off the air. Um. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we all agree that we need to get the economy

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<v Speaker 1>up and running in a total shutdown is just not doable.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any any thoughts on the SNY Unified

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<v Speaker 1>School District's new plan to essentially eliminate grades and behavior

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<v Speaker 1>standards of behavior And I think that makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what as we've been talking about, let's not

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<v Speaker 1>talk about stuff like that. Let's talk about kidding our

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<v Speaker 1>schools open. And so when we're distracting doing you know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff like that, it takes our focus

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<v Speaker 1>off the ball. Uh And and and our focus should

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<v Speaker 1>be getting kids back in the classroom, not changing the

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<v Speaker 1>grading standards. And you do agree that that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>thing is incredibly demeaning toward minority children, essentially telling them

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<v Speaker 1>you can't possibly achieve academically. So we're not even gonna

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<v Speaker 1>grade you. Look, we we got to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>we're teeting everybody equal. I mean, I think that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the point. Uh. And a place at schools, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>norm place other than schools, where everybody understands that they've

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<v Speaker 1>should and will be treated equally, and that children understand

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<v Speaker 1>the importance of hard work, children understand the importance of

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<v Speaker 1>hitting the deadline, children understands the importance of in acting,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the right way with other other kids and

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<v Speaker 1>their and their teachers. And so lookay, and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>learn those lessons if you're not back in school, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, here here, I'm just we've got to get

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<v Speaker 1>them back in and get our get our teachers back

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<v Speaker 1>and get everybody learning. I'm so confused by this controversy

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. I understand when it was all theoretical

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<v Speaker 1>on both sides, schools should be open, school should be closed.

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<v Speaker 1>But now all the data is on the side of

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<v Speaker 1>them being open. I'm looking up at Good Morning America

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<v Speaker 1>with yet another story report finds little evidence that schools

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<v Speaker 1>are main drivers of transmission. There. That's Good Morning America

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<v Speaker 1>for good as the science is on your side, our side,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even understand what the other side of the

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<v Speaker 1>argument is now. San Diego Mayeric Kevin Faulkner's on the

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<v Speaker 1>line right now. Kevin, I'm sorry to cut you off.

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<v Speaker 1>We just have limited time, and I wanted to touch

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<v Speaker 1>on a couple of a couple of other things, including

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego doing a pretty good job with an enormous

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<v Speaker 1>homeless challenge. Um both the righteously unfortunate, mentally ill, also

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<v Speaker 1>a lot hell of a lot of junkies and bums

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<v Speaker 1>who just can't get their lives together. What's the current plan. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been, uh, we've been putting a pretty aggressive stance

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<v Speaker 1>on I really helping people and making sure folks are

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<v Speaker 1>not on the sidewalks and on the streets. San Diego

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<v Speaker 1>County only Kent, major urban county in California where homelessness

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<v Speaker 1>has gone down the last two years in a row. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And I've made it really, I do not allow tent

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<v Speaker 1>encampments on our sidewalks in San Diego are in our canyons.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not compassionate, that does not help people. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the work that we've done to you know, transition

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<v Speaker 1>folks out to get them in the shelter. And to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, look, we're seeing a lot of folks that

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<v Speaker 1>have mental health and substance abuse issues. But saying to somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>you can you know, stay in a tent in front

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<v Speaker 1>of somebody's house or place of business is not who

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<v Speaker 1>we are is Californians. That's certainly not who we are

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<v Speaker 1>as San Diegans. And so we've been taking some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>aggressive action. We've placed since the pandemic over seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>folks and permanent housing. This has been a real focus

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<v Speaker 1>of mine, and again it's about helping people, helping people

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<v Speaker 1>for good, but not allowing the type of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ten cities and encampments that you see unfortunately in too

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<v Speaker 1>many places in California in the West. We've taken a

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<v Speaker 1>different approach in San Diego and it's paying dividends. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at this potential plan to buy a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>hotels using state, federal, and local money. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>University of San Diego, professor Norm Miller said it works

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<v Speaker 1>out to just under three sixty grand per rume. That

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<v Speaker 1>sounds insane. Yeah, I was a lot less than that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not sure where that person got there. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of their info are saying a professor who doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what he's talking about at a university. I'm shocked. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, our abilly, I will tell you again, back

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<v Speaker 1>to fast action. It takes too long to build anything

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<v Speaker 1>in California, gentlemen. Um with the cost of all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I really we've really tried to get creative

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<v Speaker 1>in San Diego. Hey, are there some motels that you

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<v Speaker 1>can convert that have kitchens? Again, get people off the

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<v Speaker 1>street for good, uh, and to make sure that that

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<v Speaker 1>is when when folks understand how we're doing this and

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that people are staying off the street. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's come back to me and said Mr Mary, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish that tent was back out in front of my house,

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<v Speaker 1>cert in front of my business. We're you know, We've

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<v Speaker 1>taken a dramatically different approach in San Diego, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>one that I happen to believe is compassionate, because letting

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<v Speaker 1>people sleep intents on your sidewalk is tantamount to letting

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<v Speaker 1>them die on your sidewalks. And that's not what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do in San Diego. San Diego, Mary Kevin and

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<v Speaker 1>Faulkner Kevin, I'm going to part a company with you

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<v Speaker 1>with three words, run for governor. Well, thank you. I

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<v Speaker 1>will finish strong in a couple of months here and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get back to you. All right, very good. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always a pleasure. Thanks, Thank you. Guys are good to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it. Yeah, if I will tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>I just Sometimes I talked to a guy like that,

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<v Speaker 1>he's in a high office, and I think, oh, there

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<v Speaker 1>is sanity. I'll be damned if I was in any

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<v Speaker 1>negotiation though, on this whole school thing at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I would put it all on the other side. Make

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<v Speaker 1>your argument for the school being closed. I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to make an argument for the school's being open. The

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<v Speaker 1>school's normal date is to be open. We educate children.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we do. We've always done it. Make your

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<v Speaker 1>argument for why they should be closed. What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>There isn't one. Somehow it's gotten all projective teachers, the

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<v Speaker 1>teachers could get sick. Somehow, it's gotten all switched around

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<v Speaker 1>where you have to make the argument for opening in

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<v Speaker 1>like the default setting is closed, that's gone, all the

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<v Speaker 1>studies are out there. What is your argument for the

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<v Speaker 1>schools being closed at this point? And I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>why we're letting them get away with it. Idaho had

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<v Speaker 1>a had a sick in yesterday and they're doing it

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<v Speaker 1>again today, where the schools are closed and there are

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<v Speaker 1>calls for fire and all these people freaking go to work.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an essential job. You don't want to do it, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get somebody else to do it. It's your job. Person.

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<v Speaker 1>The grocery store has to go in. They're making them

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<v Speaker 1>go in, got making the pizza, has got to go in,

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<v Speaker 1>go in and freaking teach the kids. But they all

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<v Speaker 1>called in sick yesterday. Unbelievable, you know. Interestingly enough the

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<v Speaker 1>whole now we have to make the case for why

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<v Speaker 1>the school should be open. And how bass ackwards that is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing of one of Tim Sanderford's great books,

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<v Speaker 1>The Permission Society, which was inspired by conversations on this

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<v Speaker 1>show oddly enough, in which the government has confiscated our

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<v Speaker 1>rights and is selling them back to us. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay a permit to do something on your own property.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell is that? But we become accustomed enough

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<v Speaker 1>to it that we have to beg We have to

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<v Speaker 1>beg for the very schools we pay for to be open. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>when Good Morning America is running a story on how

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<v Speaker 1>the report finds there's no evidence that schools are spreading COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>it's over. Yeah, open the dang school. Yeah. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It happens to bureaucracies and structures and civilizations that they

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<v Speaker 1>become more and more corrupt and less and less dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to accomplishing their purpose. Publication education in huge swaths of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States is now too diseased to save. It

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<v Speaker 1>is the dog that must be put down. There are

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<v Speaker 1>tears to be shed, no doubt, because public education in

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<v Speaker 1>the US for a long time was a pretty damn

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<v Speaker 1>good thing. But in some play, to some states in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>it cannot be saved. There's too much cancer. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it keeps keeps popping into my head. The last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days. I wish I could debate Joe Biden, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least I could, like whisper in Trump's year, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that all the time. I think that all day long.

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<v Speaker 1>Have this data on the studies of the schools across

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven different states, and how it's not spreader, and

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<v Speaker 1>really hammer Biden for being for keeping stuff closed, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish he would. Yeah, And like the cop unions

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<v Speaker 1>to a large extent, and and firefighters unions, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of teachers they like what the union gets them, but boy,

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<v Speaker 1>they hold their nose armstrong and getty