1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show, Open the Dang schools. We 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: implore everyone we can get our hands on open the 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: dang schools well. To discuss that and more, please welcome 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: to the show. San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulkner. San Diego 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: largest city in the US with a Republican mayor. It 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: is a fabulous city in which to live, work, in vacation, 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: but like any other city, it has some pretty serious challenges. 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Mr Mayor, how are you, sir, gen? Good morning, Thanks 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: for thanks for having me back. It's always a pleasure. 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: So you're turned out. I know, how how much longer 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: do you stay in office? I'll have a two more 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: months and then, not that anybody's counting. Do you have 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: your cardboard box ready for when they march you out 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: with your personal effects? We'll start We'll start getting ready soon. 15 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: But take a lot of toner from the copy or 16 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: that's what I would do. So different places all around 17 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: the country have different school situations. Someplace or open, some 18 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: places or closed. What's the situation in the San Dieo 19 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: Diego area currently? Yeah, they're trying to bring back some 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: of the folks at this point, Um and I've been 21 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: pushing real hard. Look, we need our schools open, We 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: need we open for for all the kids. And you know, 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: we want a safe environment for obviously for teachers, for parents, 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: for the kids. But but the reality is, you know, 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: distance learning is not the same as in person learning 26 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: with a teacher. It doesn't work hardly at all. It's 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: a disaster now it is. It's not working, and I 28 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: think you've seen that across the board. And so one 29 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: of the things that I've been pushing on very strongly 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: here in San Diego is to try to get everybody 31 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: around the table, whether it's you know, the teachers, whether 32 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: it's folks on the district working with people from the state, 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: you know, pushing very hard to getting us locations, to 34 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: getting us to testing. I want to take everything, you know, 35 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: any possible barrier off the table because I want kids 36 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: in the classroom now. I want the teachers to be 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: able to provide the in classroom instruction because as each 38 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: month that we go by, I think the reality is 39 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: our kids are gonna fall further and further behind in California, certainly, 40 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: and that's not something anybody wants to see. Well, And 41 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: the data is so solid at this point that schools, 42 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: particularly elementary elementary schools have not become super spreaders. They're 43 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: just not. So what's the argument for keeping the school's closed? What, 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: what's what are you up against? Well, look, I think 45 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: it's it's just exactly that you're looking at other schools 46 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: that have started to safely reopen. I think that's incredibly 47 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: important because then you have some real world experience. And 48 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: so from my standpoint, it's about let's let's make sure 49 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: that we're taking the you know, the hyperbole off the table. 50 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: Let's have communication, Let's get everybody around the table, let's 51 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: have trust. But let's agree all of us that the 52 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: best thing for kids is to get them back in 53 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: the classroom. And and you know what, guys, I'll tell you. 54 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: I talked to a lot of teachers out there. They're 55 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: ready to go back and I and they want to 56 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: be back in the classroom and I and I get that, 57 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: And so I think we need to we need to 58 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: keep pushing. Uh. Look, not not only am I a mayor, 59 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm a parent, and and so we we need to 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: we need to do a lot different than we are 61 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: with one goal. How do we get our how do 62 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: we get our kids back in the classroom. And you know, 63 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: and we talk a lot about obviously economic development, reopening 64 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: our economy, doing it safely. That's absolutely dependent upon kids 65 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: being back in school. With all of the challenges that 66 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: our parents are facing day in and day out about 67 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: childcare and other things. So is one of the biggest 68 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: issues that we have to hit head on with a 69 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: sense of urgency, such a urgency that says, it's been 70 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: too long, let's get our kids back and let's get 71 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: our schools open. Right. For the listeners who may not 72 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: know the mayor's act, he is a he is a 73 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: reasonable man, he is a dealmaker. He's an non bomb schucker. 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: That's why he's not kicking the teachers unions right now. 75 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: But we'll we'll do that after he gets off the air. Um. So, yeah, 76 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: we all agree that we need to get the economy 77 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: up and running in a total shutdown is just not doable. 78 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: Do you have any any thoughts on the SNY Unified 79 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: School District's new plan to essentially eliminate grades and behavior 80 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: standards of behavior And I think that makes no sense. 81 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: I think what as we've been talking about, let's not 82 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: talk about stuff like that. Let's talk about kidding our 83 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: schools open. And so when we're distracting doing you know 84 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,679 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff like that, it takes our focus 85 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 1: off the ball. Uh And and and our focus should 86 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: be getting kids back in the classroom, not changing the 87 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: grading standards. And you do agree that that sort of 88 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: thing is incredibly demeaning toward minority children, essentially telling them 89 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: you can't possibly achieve academically. So we're not even gonna 90 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: grade you. Look, we we got to make sure that 91 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: we're teeting everybody equal. I mean, I think that's that's 92 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: the point. Uh. And a place at schools, you know, 93 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: norm place other than schools, where everybody understands that they've 94 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: should and will be treated equally, and that children understand 95 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: the importance of hard work, children understand the importance of 96 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: hitting the deadline, children understands the importance of in acting, 97 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: you know, the right way with other other kids and 98 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: their and their teachers. And so lookay, and you don't 99 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: learn those lessons if you're not back in school, right. 100 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, here here, I'm just we've got to get 101 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: them back in and get our get our teachers back 102 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: and get everybody learning. I'm so confused by this controversy 103 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: at this point. I understand when it was all theoretical 104 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: on both sides, schools should be open, school should be closed. 105 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: But now all the data is on the side of 106 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: them being open. I'm looking up at Good Morning America 107 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: with yet another story report finds little evidence that schools 108 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: are main drivers of transmission. There. That's Good Morning America 109 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: for good as the science is on your side, our side, 110 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: I don't even understand what the other side of the 111 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: argument is now. San Diego Mayeric Kevin Faulkner's on the 112 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: line right now. Kevin, I'm sorry to cut you off. 113 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: We just have limited time, and I wanted to touch 114 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: on a couple of a couple of other things, including 115 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: San Diego doing a pretty good job with an enormous 116 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: homeless challenge. Um both the righteously unfortunate, mentally ill, also 117 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: a lot hell of a lot of junkies and bums 118 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: who just can't get their lives together. What's the current plan. Well, 119 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: we've been, uh, we've been putting a pretty aggressive stance 120 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: on I really helping people and making sure folks are 121 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: not on the sidewalks and on the streets. San Diego 122 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: County only Kent, major urban county in California where homelessness 123 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: has gone down the last two years in a row. Uh, 124 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: And I've made it really, I do not allow tent 125 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: encampments on our sidewalks in San Diego are in our canyons. 126 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: That is not compassionate, that does not help people. And 127 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: so the work that we've done to you know, transition 128 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: folks out to get them in the shelter. And to 129 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: your point, look, we're seeing a lot of folks that 130 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: have mental health and substance abuse issues. But saying to somebody, 131 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: you can you know, stay in a tent in front 132 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: of somebody's house or place of business is not who 133 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: we are is Californians. That's certainly not who we are 134 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: as San Diegans. And so we've been taking some pretty 135 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: aggressive action. We've placed since the pandemic over seven hundred 136 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: folks and permanent housing. This has been a real focus 137 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: of mine, and again it's about helping people, helping people 138 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: for good, but not allowing the type of you know, 139 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: ten cities and encampments that you see unfortunately in too 140 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: many places in California in the West. We've taken a 141 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: different approach in San Diego and it's paying dividends. I'm 142 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: looking at this potential plan to buy a couple of 143 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: hotels using state, federal, and local money. But at the 144 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: University of San Diego, professor Norm Miller said it works 145 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: out to just under three sixty grand per rume. That 146 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: sounds insane. Yeah, I was a lot less than that. 147 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure where that person got there. Some 148 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: of their info are saying a professor who doesn't know 149 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: what he's talking about at a university. I'm shocked. Well, 150 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, our abilly, I will tell you again, back 151 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: to fast action. It takes too long to build anything 152 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: in California, gentlemen. Um with the cost of all of that, 153 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: and so I really we've really tried to get creative 154 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: in San Diego. Hey, are there some motels that you 155 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: can convert that have kitchens? Again, get people off the 156 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: street for good, uh, and to make sure that that 157 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: is when when folks understand how we're doing this and 158 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: the fact that people are staying off the street. You know, 159 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: nobody's come back to me and said Mr Mary, I 160 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: wish that tent was back out in front of my house, 161 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: cert in front of my business. We're you know, We've 162 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: taken a dramatically different approach in San Diego, and it's 163 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: one that I happen to believe is compassionate, because letting 164 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: people sleep intents on your sidewalk is tantamount to letting 165 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: them die on your sidewalks. And that's not what I'm 166 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: gonna do in San Diego. San Diego, Mary Kevin and 167 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: Faulkner Kevin, I'm going to part a company with you 168 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: with three words, run for governor. Well, thank you. I 169 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: will finish strong in a couple of months here and 170 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: I'll get back to you. All right, very good. It's 171 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: always a pleasure. Thanks, Thank you. Guys are good to talk. 172 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: You got it. Yeah, if I will tell you what 173 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: I just Sometimes I talked to a guy like that, 174 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: he's in a high office, and I think, oh, there 175 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: is sanity. I'll be damned if I was in any 176 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: negotiation though, on this whole school thing at this point, 177 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: I would put it all on the other side. Make 178 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: your argument for the school being closed. I don't need 179 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: to make an argument for the school's being open. The 180 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: school's normal date is to be open. We educate children. 181 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: That's what we do. We've always done it. Make your 182 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: argument for why they should be closed. What is it? 183 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: There isn't one. Somehow it's gotten all projective teachers, the 184 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: teachers could get sick. Somehow, it's gotten all switched around 185 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: where you have to make the argument for opening in 186 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: like the default setting is closed, that's gone, all the 187 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: studies are out there. What is your argument for the 188 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: schools being closed at this point? And I don't understand 189 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: why we're letting them get away with it. Idaho had 190 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: a had a sick in yesterday and they're doing it 191 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: again today, where the schools are closed and there are 192 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: calls for fire and all these people freaking go to work. 193 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: It's an essential job. You don't want to do it, fine, 194 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: we'll get somebody else to do it. It's your job. Person. 195 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: The grocery store has to go in. They're making them 196 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: go in, got making the pizza, has got to go in, 197 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: go in and freaking teach the kids. But they all 198 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: called in sick yesterday. Unbelievable, you know. Interestingly enough the 199 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: whole now we have to make the case for why 200 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: the school should be open. And how bass ackwards that is. 201 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: That's the thing of one of Tim Sanderford's great books, 202 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: The Permission Society, which was inspired by conversations on this 203 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: show oddly enough, in which the government has confiscated our 204 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: rights and is selling them back to us. You have 205 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: to pay a permit to do something on your own property. 206 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: What the hell is that? But we become accustomed enough 207 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: to it that we have to beg We have to 208 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: beg for the very schools we pay for to be open. Man, 209 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: when Good Morning America is running a story on how 210 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: the report finds there's no evidence that schools are spreading COVID, 211 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: it's over. Yeah, open the dang school. Yeah. You know. 212 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: It happens to bureaucracies and structures and civilizations that they 213 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: become more and more corrupt and less and less dedicated 214 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: to accomplishing their purpose. Publication education in huge swaths of 215 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: the United States is now too diseased to save. It 216 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: is the dog that must be put down. There are 217 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: tears to be shed, no doubt, because public education in 218 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: the US for a long time was a pretty damn 219 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: good thing. But in some play, to some states in particular, 220 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: it cannot be saved. There's too much cancer. You know, 221 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: it keeps keeps popping into my head. The last couple 222 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: of days. I wish I could debate Joe Biden, or 223 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: at least I could, like whisper in Trump's year, I 224 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: think that all the time. I think that all day long. 225 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: Have this data on the studies of the schools across 226 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: forty seven different states, and how it's not spreader, and 227 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: really hammer Biden for being for keeping stuff closed, right, 228 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: I wish he would. Yeah, And like the cop unions 229 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: to a large extent, and and firefighters unions, a lot 230 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: of teachers they like what the union gets them, but boy, 231 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: they hold their nose armstrong and getty