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Speaker 2: What is going on? Everybody? How are we doing?

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Speaker 3: John middlecop three and out podcast late here on a

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Speaker 3: Thursday night, The Fighting Mike McDaniels gave a valiant effort.

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Speaker 3: But the Buffalo Bills they win by ten and go

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Speaker 3: to three and oh and look like one of the

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Speaker 3: best teams in the league. And I do want to

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Speaker 3: start tonight by defending are as. Rex Ryan called him

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Speaker 3: the nerd in Miami, who I would consider a very

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Speaker 3: very good offensive coach who's just in the wrong role.

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Speaker 3: But I think he's being compared to so many other

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Speaker 3: coaches that have failed, and I think we've gone too far,

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Speaker 3: So we'll dive into that. The Bills, they're good. I

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Speaker 3: don't know, they got a lot going for him. So

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Speaker 3: we'll talk a little Bill, some Tom Brady and the

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Speaker 3: Tushbush that those topics just haven't gone away all week.

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Speaker 3: We got a lot of backup quarterbacks that are just

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Speaker 3: gonna be in the mix over the next I don't know,

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Speaker 3: forty eight hours playing this weekend, So buckle up, you're

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Speaker 3: gonna be like, who's that a quarterback? That's Carson Wentz

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Speaker 3: on his sixteen in six years, which I read. I

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Speaker 3: think I saw a headline that's an NFL record six

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Speaker 3: starts for six franchises, six straight years. Talk about Journeyman,

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Speaker 3: you know, the guy went from the number two overall

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Speaker 3: pick to legitimate journeyman. So we'll dive into some of

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Speaker 3: that as well as Stucky, who joins us every single Friday.

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Speaker 3: Talk todd gambling, you know, tough slate. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: I looked at the board for the last couple of days.

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Speaker 3: have Stucky point us in the right direction. Do have

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Speaker 3: one game that I like a lot, actually a couple,

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Speaker 3: But so we'll dive into Stucky, talk, some gambling, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: You know, I know they lost, but they have been

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Speaker 3: thought Mike McDaniel is gonna get fired and Rex Ryan

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Speaker 3: called him a nerd, you know a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: Takes, like, listen, yeah, he's an IVY League guy.

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Speaker 3: He looks kind of nerdy. But here's what I do know,

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Speaker 3: and I want to defend Mike McDaniel for a second.

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Speaker 3: Not everyone's meant to be a head coach. Vic Fangio

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Speaker 3: He's not a head coach. He is a fantastic coordinator.

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Speaker 3: And I've said this forever about the NFL. It's Wall

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Speaker 3: Whether you're working on Wall Street or in finance, or

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Speaker 2: You do not sleep much. You were drinking a ton.

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Speaker 3: And obviously, if you're the head haunchho in finance, the CEO,

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Speaker 3: meant to be head coaches. There's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I know. We have seen some guys who

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Speaker 3: Brian Flores had a lot of trouble being the head coach.

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Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel is gonna need a good GM. He clearly

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Speaker 3: But how many times tonight on third and seven, on

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Speaker 3: Last time I checked. That's pretty valuable. Should he be

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Speaker 3: All signs point to that, whether that's next week, in

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Speaker 3: I see a lot of guys get fired as head

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Speaker 3: and that's you know, it's all. It all feels inevitable.

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Speaker 3: But I don't follow the Dolphins as close obviously as

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Speaker 2: I do think it's gonna be difficult for.

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Speaker 3: Them to hire a guy, but I think the conversation

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Speaker 3: But most of the two thousands your franchised was an embarrassment.

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Speaker 3: change anytime soon. But there's a reason of like why

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Speaker 3: didn't they just go to someone else? Do you see

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Speaker 3: the backup quarterbacks that are playing this week?

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Speaker 2: Wait till you watch some of these guys play, right.

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Speaker 3: Especially if they have to play multiple games. If you

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Speaker 3: are a backup quarterback, I'd argue, and you have to

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Speaker 3: start let's say four games, If you win two of them,

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Speaker 3: you have not only earned.

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Speaker 2: Your salary, you're underpaid.

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Speaker 3: If you could win a game as a backup quarterback,

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about a guy that comes into the game.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about your quarterbacks out You're starting, starting on Monday,

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Speaker 3: all week long. The other team knows you're starting, and

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Speaker 3: the game plan around you, and you can win a game.

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Speaker 2: You've earned your salary.

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Speaker 3: That's how low the bar is, because we see it

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Speaker 3: all the time. That's how bad these guys typically are. Typically,

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Speaker 3: your backup does not turn out to be Steve Young

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Speaker 3: or Aaron Rodgers. It's a guy that's gonna bounce on

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Speaker 3: team to team.

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Speaker 2: Or ideally, if you.

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Speaker 3: Got like a Patrick Mahomes and it's a Chad Henny,

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Speaker 3: he never has to play. But every once in a

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Speaker 3: while quarterback rolls an ankle, shoulder, sprains a knee, and

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Speaker 3: the backup gets thrown in there like Carson Wentz, Marcus Mariota.

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Speaker 2: I'll promise you this. My expectations are pretty low.

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Speaker 3: It's why I said about Sean McVay when he was

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Speaker 3: kind of worried about Matt Stafford. He said, Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 3: is the best starting or backup quarterback we think we

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Speaker 3: had the number one backup quarterback would be a starter.

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Speaker 2: Multiple plays in the league.

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Speaker 3: I said, I know you're guessing Mubshawn, but I disagree,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think, especially if you're playing a decent team,

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Speaker 3: you would be any lock to win a game with

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Speaker 3: that guy playing a quarterback for you, not the way

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Speaker 3: that he's played recently. And I think we gotta be careful,

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Speaker 3: especially because the draft and the college football now is

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Speaker 3: clearly the second best sport in America. Think about the

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Speaker 3: conversation this offseason in mock drafts having Arch Manning as

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Speaker 3: the number one overall pick. Honestly, sometimes shitting on him

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Speaker 3: pains me because my youth, when I was a pure

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Speaker 3: sports fan, before I ever got in the business or

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Speaker 3: worked in football or anything, I loved Peyton Manning. Like

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Speaker 3: in the late nineties, early two thousands, Peyton Manning was

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Speaker 3: my favorite player, and I used to.

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Speaker 2: Hate the Patriots. I used to want her to beat him,

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Speaker 2: but he couldn't.

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Speaker 3: So I've been rooting for the Manning family forever. But

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Speaker 3: we got to call a spadas bade. The guy can't

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Speaker 3: complete an out route. And it's like, should the Dallas Cowboys?

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Speaker 3: Should the Cleveland Browns tank for Arch? Are we sure

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Speaker 3: Arch is gonna be the starting quarterback October first? I mean,

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Speaker 3: what are we in college football? And we were talking

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Speaker 3: about this before we hit record tonight. In basketball, for example,

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Speaker 3: a guy coming out of high school, this guy's gonna

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Speaker 3: be a top three pick. He could have a bad

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Speaker 3: college season, more than likely the worst case scenario will

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Speaker 3: be like the fifth pick in football.

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Speaker 2: The moment you.

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Speaker 3: Play three bad games, people are like, WHOA, what is

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Speaker 3: going on here? And all I heard this college quarterback.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a great college quarterback season. I'm watching

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Speaker 3: these guys. I got Lagway throwing five interceptions. I got

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Speaker 3: Sellers can cussed. I got Garrett nuss Meyer, who I'm

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Speaker 3: rooting for. Let's face it, his ceilings like a Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 3: So sometimes we overhype because we root for these guys.

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Speaker 2: Most of them.

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Speaker 3: Guess what are not gonna turn out to be Jared

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Speaker 3: goffor Dak Prescott won't sniff being as good as brock Party.

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Speaker 3: Why because this is really really difficult, And the moment

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Speaker 3: these guys get hurt and we're sitting on our couch

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Speaker 3: watching some of these games with backup facing back up,

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Speaker 3: you'll realize why. It's they're playing a different sport. And

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Speaker 3: even the guys we try to gas up JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 3: big time prospect.

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Speaker 2: Am I watching this? What am I watching? Justin Jefferson's

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Speaker 2: wide open, he can't hit him. It's very, very difficult.

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Speaker 3: This is really really hard the college game, even as

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Speaker 3: the games of morph a lot of it does not

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Speaker 3: translate to two Sundays or Thursday nights or Monday nights doubleheaders.

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Speaker 3: I mean so, I think sometimes we gotta be careful

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Speaker 3: about shitting on all these quarterbacks because most of them

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Speaker 3: are not Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: But the reality is most of the other guys aren't

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Speaker 2: like Tua.

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Speaker 3: You know, think about that, Tua Tongaailoa is better than

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Speaker 3: like half the NFL the starting quarterbacks, let alone all

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Speaker 2: Let's get it on.

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Speaker 3: Can I hit on a quick Fugazi Friday? I think

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Speaker 3: sometimes conversations this week have been which if you listen

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Speaker 3: to any podcasts, watch any shows, just it's kind of

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Speaker 3: been everywhere. It's been impossible if you're in, you know,

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Speaker 3: following people on Twitter or on Instagram, seeing a lot

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Speaker 3: of talk on the tush push and talk about Tom Brady.

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Speaker 3: And I think one thing when people think that the

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Speaker 3: National Football League, they think like they really care about

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Speaker 3: all this stuff. And one thing I learned a long

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Speaker 3: time ago, and it really was evident in twenty eleven,

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Speaker 3: And when I think the NFL, I think rog and

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Speaker 3: the owners. Guess what, The owners don't always care about

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Speaker 3: what their gms and coaches do. Most of the times,

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Speaker 3: they don't really give a shit. You know, when the

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Speaker 3: league dramatically changed was in twenty eleven during the CBA

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Speaker 3: when the players were like, we want more money and

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Speaker 3: the league was like no. And then the players were like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we'll take a little more money, but we want no

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Speaker 3: more double days and every fourth day in training camp

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Speaker 3: a day off, and limitations on pads and practice. And

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Speaker 3: the owners are like, uh uh so wait, we can

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Speaker 3: give you similar amount of money, but you just don't

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Speaker 3: want any of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Do you know who?

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Speaker 3: They didn't ask their coaches or their gms what they

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Speaker 3: thought about it, because there's not a coach alive that

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Speaker 3: would have been like, yeah, just get rid of double days,

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Speaker 3: give us limitations during the season when they can wear

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Speaker 3: shoulder pads and helmets. The owner said, uh yeah, sign

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Speaker 3: me up. And I think sometimes we think Roger Goodell,

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Speaker 3: who's obviously a pretty polarizing figure over the years, all

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Speaker 3: he cares about, and rightfully so, is making the.

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Speaker 2: League more money. And the place where they make the

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Speaker 2: majority of their money.

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Speaker 3: I think it's anywhere between like sixty to sixty five

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Speaker 3: percent is on the games on TV. And I thought

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Speaker 3: Colin had a pretty good take today about the push

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Speaker 3: push it's getting overused now. To me, where the play's

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Speaker 3: gonna die is because it's really boring to watch. And

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Speaker 3: it feels like every time you watch the Eagles, who

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Speaker 3: are gonna be playing in a lot of primetime games,

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Speaker 3: they're using it over and over and over again.

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Speaker 2: But I'll promise you this.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Goodell cares logistically about where guys are

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Speaker 3: lining up, where you're pushing the integrity of the game,

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Speaker 3: the rule? He doesn't care at all. Honestly, he probably

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Speaker 3: likes it times people just talking about football the tush pushes,

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Speaker 3: But there gets to a point where he starts going, yeah,

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Speaker 3: people watching this, it's kind of turning people off. See ya,

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Speaker 3: It's over the Tom Brady situation, it's important, like back

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Speaker 3: in the day when the NBA let Michael Jordan buy

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Speaker 3: the Charlotte Bobcats for actually cheaper than market value because

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Speaker 3: they wanted Michael involved. Why, because he's the most important

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Speaker 3: sports figure at least of my lifetime, any sport, and

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Speaker 3: that includes Tom Brady. I think the NFL views Tom

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Speaker 3: similarly right. He wants to be involved. They want him involved.

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Speaker 3: It's just good for business to keep guys like him around. Well,

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Speaker 3: then Fox came after him because Fox wants to legitimize

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Speaker 3: as this thing changes and streamers get involved. They never

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Speaker 3: want to lose the NFL because if they ever lost

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Speaker 3: the NFL obviously would cripple their business, just like it

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Speaker 3: would NBC, CBS or whatever. And Tom having him, whether

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Speaker 3: it turns out he's really good, whether he's peaked wherever,

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Speaker 3: gives them a lot of credibility with advertisers, with the league.

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Speaker 2: It's important.

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Speaker 3: The league doesn't actually care that much if Tom like

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Speaker 3: finds out inside information on some random linebacker that the

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Speaker 3: Raiders sign in the year, Andy Reid, Sean Payton, Jim Harbaugh,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure do They don't want But if you think

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Speaker 3: Roger Goodell worries about that you're you're high on some

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Speaker 3: good stuff because he does not give a shit. The

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Speaker 3: problem is is one only Tom Brady could pull this off,

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Speaker 3: because this headache, if it was the equivalent of Greg Olsen,

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Speaker 3: Mark Sanchez, whoever, just some former NFL player that's calling,

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Speaker 3: would not be worth their The headache and dealing with

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Speaker 3: these questions and getting calls from the Florios and the

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Speaker 3: Big Jay's be a pain in the ass. But's tom Brady.

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Speaker 3: So they deal with it, and they probably overlook it

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Speaker 3: and they're like, we'll just deal with it later. But

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Speaker 3: this situation to think that like they really worry about

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Speaker 3: the integrity. They do not care. They never really have.

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Speaker 3: They pretend to care. They only care about making more money.

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Speaker 3: And in fairness, that's their job. It's like running a

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Speaker 3: public company. What's their number one role to do whatever

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Speaker 3: is best.

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Speaker 2: For the shareholders. That's all that matters.

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Speaker 3: And for Roger and the league office when it comes

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Speaker 3: to the tush push, when it comes to Tom Brady,

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Speaker 3: the only thing truly they care about is this going

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Speaker 3: to slow us down for making more money? Like that's

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Speaker 3: his cutthroat as this league is so all this talk

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Speaker 3: about the integrity of jumping off side and the tush

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Speaker 3: push and Brady and the knowledge and listen, I've talked

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Speaker 3: a lot about this, But the end of the day, like,

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Speaker 3: if you think those people in New York are worrying

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Speaker 3: about it for the reasons that we are fans, are

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Speaker 3: you're You're just that's the biggest few guys on because

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Speaker 3: they just simply are not. Other than that, I'm pretty

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Speaker 3: excited for college football. Actually this weekend was putting together

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Speaker 3: a little parlay. I don't quite understand why Indiana is

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Speaker 3: favored by so much against Illinois, because Indiana plays nobody.

650
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 3: I'm really rooting for Bilama. But one story that came

651
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: out and will end on this is this college football

652
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 3: rule that they're gonna get rid of one of the

653
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: transfer portal times, so you only have one time a

654
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: year to go into the transfer portal, and that would

655
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: potentially be in the fall.

656
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: Now.

657
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: Some of the coaches have pushed back against it because

658
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: some of these teams are in the playoffs and it's complicated.

659
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: This whole college football thing is complicated.

660
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: And there aren't easy answers to this.

661
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: I do think one thing they need to institute is

662
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: like a coach. If I sign a contract, there are stipulations.

663
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: I can't leave without a buyout and you can't fire

664
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: me without a buyout. I think if we got somehow

665
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: that hey, if you are coming out of high school

666
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: or in the transfer portal and you are going to

667
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: sign an nil contract, right if I sign a contract

668
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: with the volume whatever it stipulates for a year, for

669
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 3: two years, for five years, there are things on both

670
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: sides where it's like, you can't get rid of me

671
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: without giving me X and I can't go do this

672
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 3: without giving you why. That's usually the way business works,

673
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: and right now it does feel one sided.

674
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: And I think a large.

675
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: Reason for this is the media was so adamant about

676
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: these guys not getting paid, which looking back watching them

677
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: paid feels so stupid that we went this long with like,

678
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 3: just allow them to have money, but with money like

679
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: all of us that earn money in the real world,

680
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: because that's what this is now. There are professionals. Usually

681
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: there's something behind it, unless you're you know, Kawhi Leonard

682
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: and you have a company pretended to plant trees. So

683
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: people feel good about getting in the private jet flying

684
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: to a state you know, three hours away to eat

685
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: lunch and flying back, and they don't want to feel

686
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: bad when they're tweeting about certain things.

687
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: And it's a giant talking about a fugazi Ponzi scheme.

688
00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: Holy shit.

689
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: But these guys are clearly being paid and listen most

690
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: of them, and Deon Sanders said this last year, like

691
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: I only see Travis and Shador in ads and now

692
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 3: arch manning most of these guys. They're not actually being

693
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 3: paid for the brand. They're just being paid to play.

694
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: That's fine, but there should be some like you can't

695
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 3: just take my money and then leave three months later.

696
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: I think it would solve a lot of issues. No

697
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 3: different than the NFL when I signed Josh Allen to

698
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: a five year contract. Even if I cut them after

699
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: two or three years, there's guaranteed money involved, Like there's

700
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: a give and take on both sides, And if you

701
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: look at this thing, I think it would be easy.

702
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: Solved, even if we just made it two years.

703
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 3: You sign a contract for X amount of dollars. Maybe

704
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 3: if you play better, you could increase your value, but

705
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: you're stuck there for a couple of years now. Obviously,

706
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 3: if a coach gets fired, if a coach leads or

707
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: something like that happens, the transfer portal should open. I've

708
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: never had a problem with that, but just like, yeah,

709
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: I don't really like my situation, but I've been paid

710
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 3: now I'm just gonna bounce on you.

711
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: That feels like an easy fix.

712
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be a four year contract, but

713
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: there should be some rules. Even nic Nico is there

714
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: couple of years and then bounce like, I don't even

715
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: have that big an issue with it. Dumb move obviously

716
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 3: wasn't the correct move. Looks really bad. But you know,

717
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 3: Tennessee has has a skipped to beat that they easily

718
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 3: should have won that game. Easily strong, but they should

719
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: have won the game. But I do think some there

720
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: has to be some common sense that comes here. And

721
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 3: it does feel like we're limping in that direction. And

722
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: this is the power of the NFL, which isn't tied

723
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 3: to academics and all these separate conferences. It's like everything's

724
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: under one umbrella. Whether they agree or disagree, they all

725
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: kind of pull in the same direction. Their hands all

726
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: part of the same cookie jar. And in this situation,

727
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: like well Fox is paying me here, Well CBS is

728
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: paying me here, This conference you got. You got too

729
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: many different agendas, too many people pulling in different direction.

730
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 3: So it is really complicated. But I think the only

731
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 3: way to kind of settle everything down a little bit

732
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 3: is to make some just hard and fast rules, and

733
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: you can change the answer portal to once a year.

734
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: I still think you would have some similar issues arise. Okay,

735
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 3: as we head into week three, I said this the

736
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: other day, stucky. I you know, it's like middle of

737
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: summer and you're like, God, football can't get here fast enough.

738
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, you blink. We're not that far

739
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: away from October. Football flies by h college football. I mean,

740
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 3: we're a week away from basically just being in conference play.

741
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: The NFL is off and running. I feel like, looking

742
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: at the board these last couple of weeks, it's not easy.

743
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 3: I feel like the last couple of years I've been

744
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 3: a lot more confident. I'm just looking at college looking

745
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: at the pros. I don't feel as confident as I

746
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: have in years past, a couple of weeks into the season.

747
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 3: Maybe that's parody all over all over football in general.

748
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, sometimes you just don't you're not you

749
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: don't you don't feel it you just need. All you

750
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 1: need is one one good Saturday or Sunday, and you'll

751
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: you'll gain that clarity. But sometimes it's like that in

752
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year NFL this, I will say,

753
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: NFL Week three is one of my favorite weeks. It

754
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: is generally an underdog week. And the reason for that,

755
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: I mean, if you go back historically week three underdogs

756
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: or fifty five percent owing two underdogs, So teams that

757
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: are owing to catching points since twenty ten, in Week

758
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: three they're forty twenty one and one against spread sixty

759
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: six percent, covering by about a field goal per game.

760
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: Why is that? You don't you never want to follow

761
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: any of these things blindly, but it makes sense. So

762
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: we a lot of times what happens after two weeks

763
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: is the overreactions in the market get pretty wild, and

764
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: you're almost better off just going into a coma for

765
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: the first two weeks in the NFL not seeing anything,

766
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: and then like sticking to what you've thought in your

767
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: priors before the year going into week three, for example,

768
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: like right now everyone is saying, think about it. You

769
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: watch dream Bay for two weeks, dream Bay looks like

770
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL. Does anyone want to

771
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: bet against them? No, I mean I did this week,

772
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: But then you watch the Browns lose by twenty four

773
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: last week? Does anyone want to bet the brown Sea?

774
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: But there's a world where the Packers are really good,

775
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: but they're not illegally like that, and they just had

776
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: a two It's a two game stretch. If you go

777
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: back in any season and you pull two random games

778
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: from the schedule out and then you look at that,

779
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: that's probably not indicative of what that team became. But

780
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: because that's all we have a lot of times, people

781
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: start anchoring to Okay, now this team's really good. Now

782
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: the Colts all of a sudden they're going to be

783
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: this juggernaut offense. Daniel Jones is good now, right, And

784
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: then you so you start to see like, now the

785
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: Colts are four point favorites at Tennessee instead of like,

786
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: you know, that game would have been under a field

787
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: goal before, it might have been a pick, or the

788
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: Titus might have been minus one before the season. So

789
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: you start to see this creep and market overreaction, and

790
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: generally speaking, you want to look for some of those

791
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: underdogs and buy low some of those zero and two underdogs.

792
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: For example, one of them is the Browns that I played.

793
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: I hate it. I love the packae package of my

794
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: only Super Bowl future. I better than Maddy. I think

795
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: they're really good. But the Browns defense is playing at

796
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: an elite level. So maybe Flacco gets you know, Parsons,

797
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: forces them into three turnovers and it goes sideways. But

798
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: the Browns defense people don't realize. Last week, that's what

799
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: happened in Baltimore. Baltimart had two hundred and forty total yards,

800
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: Henry had eleven carries for twenty yards. They couldn't do anything.

801
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: They did a couple of Lamar are awesome places of

802
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: doing what Lamar does. But and then the week before

803
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: they held the Bengals and Burrow to two yards in

804
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: the second half. So this might not be as easy

805
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: as a task for green Bay going on the road.

806
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: So I mean I took the eight and a half there.

807
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: It's scary. But those are some of the spots that

808
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: I look for in Week three where underdogs, generally speaking,

809
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: reigned supreme, and you usually will see a couple outright upsets,

810
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: which we haven't been seeing in the NFL. But I

811
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: have a sneaky suspicion we might see some some more

812
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: casts this week.

813
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 3: I think the pushback would be the Packers team speed

814
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 3: up front. In Flacco obviously is probably the most immobile

815
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 3: quarterback in the league.

816
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 2: Is that fair to say? Yes?

817
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: That's that would be the scary point.

818
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: How does he get away? I mean Parsons. Parsons looks

819
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 3: like he's running around like a dB right now. Obviously

820
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 3: now that back healed real, real quick once he signed

821
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 3: that piece of paper.

822
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, that would be the main concern. So the Browns,

823
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: I mean, Judkins look good. So the Brown's got to

824
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: run it here. They got to get rid of the

825
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: ball quick. But there's also a chance that the Packers

826
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: offensive line isn't fully healthy. And then Myles Garrett company,

827
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: they're getting a ton of pressure. They can wreck some

828
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: havoc on the Packers. So I took the eight and

829
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: a half. It's certainly scary though.

830
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, let's just let's stay on board with

831
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 3: the NFL. I mean, that's one of my favorite My

832
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: favorite bet of the weekend is the Texans plus two

833
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: and a half at Jacksonville.

834
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: They just like this is I mean the kitchen sink

835
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: game for him.

836
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: I mean it feels it's crazy, but like we're not

837
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: even to the end of September and it feels like

838
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 3: they're seasons.

839
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: On the line. Now. Granted their division you think would

840
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: be a little more open.

841
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 3: But if the Colts just keep rattling off wins all

842
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you're two and five and they're five

843
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: and two, it's pretty This isn't baseball or basketball. It's

844
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: hard to make up games, right. You need stuffs out

845
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: of your control. You need them to lose like three

846
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: in a row, and you cannot you margin forever zero.

847
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 3: So obviously the Jacksonville situation, he played more both ways

848
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 3: last game, had the big penalty. But uh, you know,

849
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 3: I don't know the Liam Cohen. You know, he's a

850
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: young coach screaming at Trevor Lawrence. I don't make that

851
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 3: much of that situation. But I don't know. I just

852
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 3: think Texan's getting points. I mean, this would have been

853
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: a game where I think a couple of weeks ago

854
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 3: you would have thought like, oh, Texans are gonna beat

855
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 3: the Jags. But now it's every like you said, everyone

856
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: just thinks the Texans stink their defense. I mean, it's

857
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: still fucking good. I mean, Baker pulled that play out

858
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 3: of his ass on fourth and ten. I just listened.

859
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Baker's dramatically better than Trevor Lawrence.

860
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: And I'm just taking the Texans here.

861
00:41:59,320 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 2: Could be wrong.

862
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 3: I'm out of the Titans. I will eventually wave them

863
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 3: with a white flag. I'm not quite out on the

864
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: Texans yet.

865
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't play. These are the spots

866
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: that you have to look for in Week three, and

867
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: like divisional road divisional dogs that are zero and two

868
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: generally if performed well. And look, the Texans are two

869
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: plays away from potentially being two and zero right they

870
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: fourth and ten, they had Mayfield there, they whiffed on

871
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: a sack that would have ended the game. And then

872
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: against the Rams like they fumble late and in that

873
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: game they had a bunch of offensive line injuries. My fear,

874
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it is a short week, so it's not

875
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: the best. But my fear is and Brian Thomas Junior.

876
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's heard or what's going on there,

877
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: but that could help the Texans as well. My fear

878
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: is just that the offense, the Texans offense looks like

879
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: last year and this was supposed to be an evolved

880
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: scheme under Nick Kelly, who came from the mcvatree that

881
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: got rid of Slowick. But like, you look, there's the

882
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: motion rates are down, the play action is these are

883
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: the things that we were supposed to start seeing too

884
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: many early down run it looked like just the same

885
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: exact offense that we knew the offensive line was gonna

886
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: be great, but I was expecting some more innovation and

887
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: creativity to make up for some of those deficiencies which

888
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 1: were not seeing, which concerns me a bit. And I've

889
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: liked the Jags offense has definitely improved under Cohen, like

890
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: just schematically some of the things they're doing in the

891
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: run game, in the screen game, and I like that

892
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: they're they're they're playing more zone on defense, which matches

893
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: the skill set of their defense. So I like some

894
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: of the things that Jackson are And they should have

895
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: beat the Bengals, but it's pretty damning that they lost

896
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: after Burrow went down. So like, the Jags can always

897
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 1: pull a Jag, so I don't blame you for taking

898
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: the points there.

899
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, the other game is you know these are divisional

900
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: early matchups. Obviously the Chargers beat Denver. They beat every

901
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: team of their division, and they are poy especially getting

902
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: the news yesterday that Khalil Mack you know, avoided disaster

903
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: and will be back, because I did think if he

904
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: was out for the season, it's easy to patch something

905
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 3: up for a game that that'd be a pretty big

906
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 3: blow for them. You know what he brings to the table,

907
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: just in terms of his play against the run. Clearly

908
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: they talked about him, just like his presence with them.

909
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 3: Clearly Jim loves the guy. I mean, his big thing

910
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: this offseason was to resign him. But short week, not

911
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 3: only short week, like extra short. Right, they had a

912
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: couple hour later kickoff. Now Vegas to la is not

913
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: a long flight, but Monday basically they get nothing out

914
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 3: of So by the time they get to the offense

915
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 3: it's four or five in the morning on Tuesday, they're

916
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: twenty four hours behind a top flight coach and coaching

917
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 3: staff in Denver that just had a devastating l Right,

918
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: and this is the way you just described it, getting

919
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 3: Denver two and a half points.

920
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 2: Let's face it, the Chargers have no home.

921
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: Field advantage, so it's not like I factor that in

922
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 3: at all. Little like the Texans little less because they

923
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 3: already have a win and you know, listen, they easily

924
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 3: could have won that game in Indy. It was a

925
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 3: big game for Denver, you know. I mean the Chargers

926
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: after winning those two games got a little breathing room.

927
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 2: I just think two and a half. I actually think

928
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: I'm not out on Denver. I know some people are

929
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: a little worried. You know.

930
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: Defensively, what was the knock, right, They didn't really play

931
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 3: any quarterbacks last year.

932
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: I do think Daniel Jones is playing pretty well.

933
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you just watch the Golts. He's just slinging

934
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 3: it to those guys. They have good offensive weapons. It's

935
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: not like the Colts are just some are the Patriots

936
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 3: with nobody to throw it like. They have really good players,

937
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: especially Tyler if Tyler Warren's going to be this good

938
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor Pittman's a good player. So I don't think

939
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: that loss the ending is really bad. But losing to

940
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: the Colts when we look back at the end of

941
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 3: the year might not look as bad if.

942
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: They're a ten or eleven win team.

943
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the knock on the Denver defense is

944
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: it's not on anything, not on anything. They're doing as

945
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: far as building that team or the roster, the personnelity,

946
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: they actually like improve their defense, and their defense was

947
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: the best defense in the NFL last year. It's just

948
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 1: the defense is there's it's highly varyingt from one year

949
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: to the next, like you just don't know. It's very unpredictable.

950
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: In the offense is much more steady on a year

951
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: to year basis. Going into last year, everyone thought the

952
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: Jets and the Browns were gonna be like two of

953
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: the top five defenses, and they fell off a cliff.

954
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: It looks like the Browns might be back like just

955
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: like because all their secondary guys just had a bad

956
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: year all at once. So the Denver defense might just

957
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: naturally regress on a year to year basis, which would

958
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: be the knock there. But yeah, you mentioned the home field.

959
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: There's not much. It's a short week. I think that

960
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: if you get them, let me look, this is the

961
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: Chargers have taken some money. You might be able to

962
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: get three. So I would wait, you know, if it.

963
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: Was two and a half this morning when I look, yeah.

964
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: If you can get it, looks like it might touch three.

965
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: I think you have to look at Denver here I

966
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: also think it's it could be a sneaky over, like

967
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: the Chargers' offense looks incredible, or throwing at a ton.

968
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: They're letting Herbert just cook. But in order to beat

969
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: this Chargers defense, which I mean, they're so well schooled

970
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: on her Minter, they're on a lot of quarters, they're

971
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: gonna they're just can't get anything downfield.

972
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 2: They look they look fucking good. I mean they tackled.

973
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they look like the Ravens or Mike McDonald. I mean,

974
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: it's it's pretty impressive.

975
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: So what you have to do. You have to you

976
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: have to move the ball number one on the ground.

977
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: You have to run it. And the Broncos should be

978
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: able to do that. Really good offensive line and they

979
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: can move there. But then you have to short pass

980
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: and officially move down there. And that's kind of the

981
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: Denver offense. So you know, it's not like they're relying

982
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: on explosive plays and like that. The Raiders were trying

983
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: to just kept trying to hit deep throz and you're

984
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: just not going to do that against uh against I

985
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: definitely don't mind those looks.

986
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: I you know, it.

987
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 3: Wasn't necessary. The score I felt was closer than the game.

988
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 3: But going in, I'm like Chip Kelly Ohio State last

989
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 3: year against the Michigan guys and then early on they're.

990
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: Just getting punked.

991
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's something about his scheme now it's different

992
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 3: than maybe it was back when he was in Philadelphia,

993
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: where I thought, if you go back and look, when

994
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: they played physical teams, he really struggled.

995
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, I would agree with you there which side?

996
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: What are you what are you looking at? Which side for?

997
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 3: I'm just talking Denver plus too, and you know in

998
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 3: that or excuse me, the Charger game against you know,

999
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 3: the Raiders where it's like, you know, his he just

1000
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 3: there's something soft about just the way he coaches, and

1001
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 3: I understand that it's changed. I would say the same

1002
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: thing for Cliff in Washington if you go back, I

1003
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 3: just vividly remember some of these Eagles games when they

1004
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: would play, you know, a physical front and it's just

1005
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: a problem for and this same thing with Cliff. It's

1006
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: just any spread type offense where there's something with let's

1007
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 3: say Jim Harbaugh or John Harbaugh or now Dan Campbell.

1008
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 3: I think it gets down to the way you practice,

1009
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: and the way you practice establishes a physicality.

1010
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, do you think there's a high correlation

1011
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: between like the coach and the identity of the coach

1012
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: and the staff and then the actual physical nature of

1013
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: what you see on the field.

1014
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 3: I think because I think now Pete Carroll is a

1015
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: tough guy and a physical guy, but like ultimately he

1016
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: has nothing to do with the offensive script like he's

1017
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: not telling Chip what to run, so like his mentality,

1018
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 3: like his defense, they were playing hard. I mean they

1019
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: have tough physical guys obviously Max and you know Chip,

1020
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 3: if you give him years, he will build a tough

1021
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 3: Jamal Adams. It's it's clear who the one that loved

1022
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 3: Jamal Adams in that trade was. And honestly, it's pretty

1023
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 3: impressive Jamal's changed positions. My point is, I guess I

1024
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: understand what Pete likes, but when you are have nothing

1025
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 3: to do with the side of the ball. That's what

1026
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 3: makes Jim so impressive is Jim's not the play caller,

1027
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 3: but what he demands out of his philosophical belief in

1028
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 3: offense translates to the defense, something he has nothing to

1029
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 3: do with because the way they practice, and this is

1030
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 3: a Coach Reid thing, Like coach Reid, who.

1031
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:49,959
Speaker 2: Is more of a passing game guy.

1032
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 3: All this players say are camps are really physical, and

1033
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 3: so if he has the right players right when he

1034
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 3: got to Kansas City, and then as they've transitioned with Spags,

1035
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 3: they've got better players.

1036
00:49:59,239 --> 00:49:59,479
Speaker 2: Again.

1037
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 3: On defense, they've been a really physical defense. Even though

1038
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 3: you go, well, he doesn't even want to call runs.

1039
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 3: It's not about that. It's the mentality that you get

1040
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: in practice. Look at the Ravens, like, why do all

1041
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: these guys that go out from the race. I was

1042
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 3: thinking about this the other day, like Belichick's coaching tree

1043
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 3: is so shitty. Now the Ravens are multiple coaches, right,

1044
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: it's Billick and Harbaugh. Think how many coaches they have

1045
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 3: put out over the last twenty five years all over

1046
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 3: the league. Not even just head coaches, but coordinators up

1047
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 3: and comers, Dan Lynn. I mean, they got guys in college.

1048
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: It's fucking insane because I think it's like they see

1049
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 3: in practice, this works.

1050
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: This would work in high school.

1051
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 3: This would work in the pros, This would work in college.

1052
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: It always translates.

1053
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 3: Being a good physical team, because if you're a good

1054
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: physical team, that means you're mentally tough and you tackle well, like,

1055
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 3: how many teams do you watch Saturdays and Sundays like that.

1056
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: That's a bad tackling team.

1057
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah. And plus you gotta give Carol just got there.

1058
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not I'm not holding him. I'm just saying

1059
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 3: that the Chip scheme big picture. Yeah, you know, when

1060
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 3: they try to get into like Okay, let's get in

1061
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 3: the let's throw blows with Mike Tyson, he cannot win

1062
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: that way.

1063
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: He cannot.

1064
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: And it goes back to when he lost to Auburn. Obviously,

1065
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 3: he i would say, has expanded his passing game over

1066
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 3: the years. You have to and you know they have

1067
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: better players and they got hot in Ohio State and listen,

1068
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 3: Geno's a solid player, but like Ashton Genty, it's not

1069
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: you know, their offensive line, what would you say average at.

1070
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 2: Best for the Ravers. Yeah.

1071
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 3: So it's like in Ashton Genty, this was my thing

1072
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 3: taking him six overall, it's like you're not getting like

1073
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 3: Walter Payton or Barry Sanders here.

1074
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: He's a good college player, but he's not.

1075
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 3: Even think about some of the best prospects over the

1076
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 3: last decade, McCaffrey, Bijon, Saquon, he's not on there's not

1077
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 3: a scout alive that would put him on their tier,

1078
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 3: including spy tech. Now, relative to a draft class, you

1079
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 3: can only go off like what's presented on that given year.

1080
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 3: And I guess I understand it, but I think a

1081
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 3: lot of people are like, where's Adrian Peterson? Like, guys,

1082
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 3: that's not what you were getting here.

1083
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and harbou. The Charges never would have made that move,

1084
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: like everyone wanted them to draft the receiver and they

1085
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 1: went offensive tackle. And that's how like Carball is building

1086
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: that identity of how the team wants to be. And look,

1087
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: the passing attack is electric right now.

1088
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1089
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's where he just and I know, you

1090
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 3: know you saw Roman in Baltimore, like Herbert is.

1091
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he can.

1092
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 3: He's if he stays healthy, he can win an MVP

1093
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 3: in the NFL, like he is a special League and

1094
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 3: win a super Bowl. He's an elite talent and like

1095
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 3: they have kind of transitioned like he's our best player,

1096
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 3: so let's let him rip. And you got to give

1097
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 3: credit for the Keenan Allen situation. He's just a pro.

1098
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 3: Mccaucky's a stud, you know. I what's your take early

1099
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 3: on the running back from North Carolina Hampton, I was like,

1100
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 3: you know, he looks a little slow to me.

1101
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, their running game hasn't been as eye catching as

1102
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: I thought it might be, which is maybe why they're

1103
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: going more pass heavy and it's working. Maybe it's like

1104
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 1: we'll end up just unleashing Herbert than unlocking the full

1105
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: potential of this offense. But I haven't been overly wowed

1106
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: so far.

1107
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 3: We can talk about the Steelers game now. I would

1108
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 3: say what the Steelers were most of are like, you know,

1109
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 3: fifteen twenty years ago, even up until the last six

1110
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 3: or seven years. That now is going to be the

1111
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 3: Chargers moving forward because they are like parallel Baltimore, where

1112
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 3: I think they could play Baltimore and at least have

1113
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 3: a chance because they are built like them. Where the

1114
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 3: Steelers have turned into this team that you know last week,

1115
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 3: I was wrong on Caleb Johnson. Maybe I didn't study

1116
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 3: him hard enough, but I feel like I watched a

1117
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: decent amount of Iowa game. I remember watching like YouTube

1118
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,959
Speaker 3: highlights and thinking like, I think this guy's pretty good player.

1119
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 3: He's been a disaster, and that play was I mean,

1120
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 3: would you be a little stunned if he's not just

1121
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 3: your classic like healthy scratch this week kind of you

1122
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 3: know coaching move. Yeah, but they get the ball or

1123
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 3: they have a chance to just get a stop, get

1124
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 3: the ball back down a touchdown, and Seattle scores. It's like,

1125
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 3: I can't. Part of the reason I kind of believed

1126
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 3: in this team was I thought their defense gonna be

1127
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 3: really good. They've been atrocious. Now they're going to New England,

1128
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 3: who I don't think is really that talented.

1129
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: If if, if the Steelers are.

1130
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 3: Gonna be anything, they go on the road and they

1131
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: win this game, and obviously they would win, they would

1132
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 3: cover this, But I just don't have that much faith

1133
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh. I think this has got to be this

1134
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 3: week kind of a rally the troops all time. If

1135
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin still has it, then he gets it this week.

1136
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 3: If he doesn't, like we might be looking at truly

1137
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 3: the beginning of the end of this situation. If like

1138
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 3: Mike Vrabel and this pretty average roster can take down

1139
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 3: this highly paid.

1140
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 2: Bunch of veteran Aaron Rodgers led squad.

1141
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem for the Steelers this I mean, maybe

1142
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: this is the first year they finally have losing record,

1143
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: which hasn't happened in many moons, never under Tomlin. Uh.

1144
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: The problem with the steel they have so many defensive

1145
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: injuries right now, so I don't even know who's gonna play.

1146
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 1: They might be down four or five starters, key starters,

1147
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: so we'll see, like high Smith Porter if they have Elliott.

1148
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: They have injuries all over. The defense has been horrendous

1149
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: and it's been bad. I mean, they paid a Watt

1150
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: all that money, but Watt is clearly not the same

1151
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: impactful player that he once was. And if you used

1152
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: to look at the splits with the Steelers when he

1153
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: was on and off the field, when he was injured

1154
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: for a couple of games, they were drastic and like,

1155
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: that's what they look like right now.

1156
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 3: Think about which wouldn't that be a problem. They just

1157
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 3: invested one hundred million dollars. Let's use the other two guys.

1158
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett still looks elite. I would say, watching Max

1159
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 3: against the Chargers, I know his team's not good. Every

1160
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 3: team in the league would sign up for Max Crosby

1161
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 3: on that contract. If Watt falls off that tier, those

1162
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 3: three guys that just got paid, you got a financial

1163
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 3: problem on your hands big time.

1164
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 1: I would not have done it, but like I can

1165
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 1: see why they had to do it. It's like why

1166
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: it's the face of the franchise, but you already have

1167
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: like other good edge rushers and he was just his

1168
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 1: age and I would not have dedicated. Like the Steelers,

1169
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: what they need to do is they need to reset

1170
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: this whole thing, like they've just been this nine and

1171
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: eighteen for since Ben left and then they're not like

1172
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: they just get to they get the they sneak into

1173
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs and lose, and they need to just full

1174
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: reset it. That contract didn't help, especially if what it's

1175
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: gonna fall off. But think about what how the Jets

1176
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: looked against the Steelers and then how the Jets looked

1177
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: last week, Like that's the state of their defense. The

1178
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: Seahawks in Week one against the forty nine Ers versus

1179
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: last week, they're going up and down the field. So yeah,

1180
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: that defense is problematic. The Patriots defense is also be

1181
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: in bed. But they might get Christian Gonzales back that

1182
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: could be huge. He practiced yesterday the first time since July.

1183
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: So with the points, it was New England or nothing

1184
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: for me. By the way, you mentioned that Caleb Johnson play.

1185
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 1: They're The only other time I can remember that happening

1186
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: was actually another Steelers rookie. It was I don't know,

1187
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: you remember this game. He ended up going on to

1188
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: have a good career. I forget his name, Perry or something.

1189
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: He was a rookie running back I think ninety in

1190
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: the nineties and had candlestick against the Niners. The Niners

1191
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: kicked it off and it just landed at the five,

1192
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: and he didn't know that he had to he had

1193
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: to stood there, and he just stood there and then

1194
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers picked it up and scored. Like

1195
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: that's the only other time. It was funny because it

1196
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: was also a Steelers rookie, so maybe he can bounce back.

1197
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was a huge blunder.

1198
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: I just I mean that visual.

1199
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 3: You know. Danny Smith is probably one of the more

1200
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 3: famous special teams coach in the NFL.

1201
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: He's pretty He's.

1202
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 3: Like a small or shorter version of Pete Carroll, always

1203
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 3: chewing gum, stopping around and you just see him in

1204
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 3: the background and Cale's walking towards the sideline. It's like,

1205
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 3: what are you doing now? It was also kind of sketchy.

1206
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 3: I never was on a slow mo version. Did did

1207
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 3: he have possession before he fell out of the end zone,

1208
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 3: like it was kind of a shot.

1209
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: Talk about that. Look at that more.

1210
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 3: It did not seem like he caught it like two

1211
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 3: yards in and just was celebrated he rolled out of

1212
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 3: the end zone.

1213
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 2: Was the ball in his hands?

1214
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why they didn't. Everyone was confused.

1215
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: I think because it's like this new rule. I think

1216
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: everyone on the field, the rest, the announcers, everyone was confused.

1217
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you have full possession for

1218
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: like that was just so bizarre. And yeah, he was

1219
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: just jogging off the field like okay, go ahead, offense,

1220
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: it's your turn. What a disaster, didn't It ended the

1221
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: game pretty much like seventeen fourteen, And.

1222
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 3: You know Rogers talking about like the league. You know,

1223
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 3: I know the league's buying area, but we can't be

1224
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 3: like that.

1225
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: Aaron. You're not thirty four. You didn't just sign a

1226
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 2: five year contract. It's all about wins and losses this year,

1227
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: Like this is an all in situation.

1228
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 3: This isn't Nick Saban in the process for you guys,

1229
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 3: Like this was about you trying to be a ten eleven,

1230
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 3: twelve win team, win a playoff game, you know, have

1231
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 3: a successful season. This is not about like for the

1232
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 3: next five years teaching the squad. What the fuck are

1233
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 3: we talking about? Yeah, and I think he's saying that

1234
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 3: because he knows, like, maybe we're not as good as

1235
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 3: I thought when I signed up. And that's you know,

1236
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 3: like when Farv did the thing Minnesota, you look back like, yeah, they.

1237
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 2: Had a pretty good roster, you know, was that pretty

1238
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: was pretty stacked.

1239
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 3: They had this other guy I think it was like

1240
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 3: twenty four years old named Adrian Peterson that was unstoppable.

1241
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 3: Like if I put Adrian Peters on the Steeler team,

1242
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 3: they're probably a little bit different, and they just ended

1243
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 3: in the ball a lot.

1244
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 2: He's a freak show. Uh.

1245
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: It's a big, big, big week for the Steelers.

1246
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: I mean it's huge.

1247
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: I think you get a break because maybe the Vikings

1248
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: and Bengals are coming up on your schedule, so you

1249
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: get a break that like no Barrow, the Vikings injuring

1250
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: quarterback situation and you host the Browns, so that could help.

1251
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: But this will be a very telling game, as you

1252
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: alluded to on like where this team is and where

1253
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: Tomlin is.

1254
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 3: I think the two teams that it's borderline must win

1255
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 3: given the hype and how much we talk about these

1256
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 3: two teams, Steelers at Chicago and you know the Chicago thing, we.

1257
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 2: Talked about it last week.

1258
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 3: It was hard because you only had the one game

1259
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 3: evidence with the Lions pretty clear Lions at home. I mean,

1260
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 3: they're gonna be pretty explosive in the dome.

1261
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 2: We'll see see how it plays out.

1262
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 3: Obviously, they have a massive game Monday night where a

1263
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 3: couple of years ago, your squad beat the living piss

1264
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 3: out of them. I remember watching that game on my

1265
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 3: couch and it was it was over before it even

1266
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 3: wasn't like twenty eight nothing after the first quarter.

1267
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing at one point. It was one of the

1268
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 1: easiest bets I've ever won. Their three point favorites at home.

1269
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: It was it was a joke.

1270
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 3: Now, maybe this Lion's team, who will dive into in

1271
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 3: a second, is like a lot of the core guys

1272
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 3: on that team are much more established, better players now

1273
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 3: a little older, so it's it's probably a little bit

1274
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 3: different animal though the coaching probably worse.

1275
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 2: Uh.

1276
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 3: This Chicago thing, I mean that was I mean they quit,

1277
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 3: I mean they just they just tapped out. Even their

1278
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 3: coach admitted it like we got to start judging guys

1279
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 3: a little harsher in practice, because in his comments this week,

1280
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 3: like he's under fire. Obviously, the GM's under fire, the

1281
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 3: quarterbacks under fire. Dallas gets a little house money. They

1282
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 3: they You know, one thing I learned when I was

1283
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 3: in the NFL is like when you talk about guys

1284
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 3: in zone defense, a linebacker, especially as like a zone dropper,

1285
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 3: it's so easy to be justified for him, like, well,

1286
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 3: I just drop back my seven yards and two yards over.

1287
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 3: That's the landmark you told me. And then there comes

1288
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 3: to a point where you like kind of gotta be

1289
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: a football player and the linebacker just drop back. Ferguson

1290
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 3: is two yards away from you. Yeah, I know you're

1291
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 3: supposed to be there, but the fucking guy is right

1292
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 3: next to you cover him.

1293
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 2: I mean that's just that's like football one on one Saban.

1294
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 3: And Belichick with Puke Mike McDonald, like they can't even fathom.

1295
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 3: So I just Dallas got pretty lucky. I think that

1296
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 3: you get that completion.

1297
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 2: Now.

1298
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 3: The kicker they benefit from their offense is good. I

1299
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 3: mean they got two good wide receivers. Chicago's injuries in

1300
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 3: the secondary, the eber Fluce Bowl here. This would be

1301
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 3: something you know, I know from a gambling standpoint, you

1302
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 3: gotta be careful about the narrator. But you can already

1303
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 3: see if Dallas were to win this game and they

1304
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 3: get a couple of stops on defense and Kayler looks

1305
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 3: a little weird, eber Flu's coming in handed him the

1306
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 3: game ball after the game, because you know that would happen.

1307
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 3: This is this is must win for Chicago from the

1308
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 3: simple fact of their season could just become like the

1309
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 3: negativity surrounding them, it'd be impossible to shet off.

1310
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: In their schedule. Is they look at the division there

1311
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: and like they have to win this game. Uh yeah,

1312
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: they're secondaries in shambles. That was part of the reason

1313
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: why Detroit.

1314
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 2: Well, Jalen's out for the year now, right.

1315
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like I don't think it's confirmed, but

1316
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,479
Speaker 1: it looks that's the word.

1317
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 2: It's definitely out this week.

1318
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Kyler Gordon's week to week, he's like the

1319
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: MVP of their defense, their other corner. So like their

1320
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: corners now are in shambles. And and Campbell was running

1321
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: it up too, and he wanted to stick it to Johnson,

1322
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: but they're they're like number one corners Tyreek Stevenson, Now,

1323
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: who's not good. He should be like your three, maybe

1324
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: not even your three. He's given up a one fifty

1325
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: eight point three perfect passer ratings so far this year.

1326
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: So that's not great against Lamb and Pickens. But I

1327
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: think you have to take I mean, so their defensive master,

1328
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: they're not even getting pressure. They can't get pressure. They're

1329
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: just playing a ton of man like Dennis Allen man

1330
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: and they don't have winners. So like what do you

1331
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: what do.

1332
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 2: You even Montes sweat? I thought he was good.

1333
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, he might be falling off of it. But

1334
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: they just they don't have a bunch of they don't

1335
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: have any other passwatch he gets a ton of attention,

1336
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: So like they're not It's I don't know, it's very bizarre.

1337
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: They're just playing like Dennis Allen's a man guy. And

1338
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: obviously every team mixes it up with man, but as

1339
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: far as like percentage of man, they're they're on the

1340
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: high end. And like you don't have the corners to

1341
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: do that or so at least you gotta blitz or

1342
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: do something. Like the Dolphins, you'll watch like their secondary

1343
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: is so bad and it's so injured, like similar to

1344
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: the Bears that they're just blitzing like sixty percent of

1345
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: the time, because I mean, why not, You're not You're

1346
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: not going to stop anything. You can't get a quarterback

1347
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: time because you can't cover, so you've got to like

1348
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: just try to create chaos and try to force the turners.

1349
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what the Bears are. Maybe they'll switch

1350
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: it up this week, but I think you have to

1351
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: bet the Bears this week. Look number one, First of all,

1352
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: they should have won week one, like they should be

1353
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: one on one. The Cowboy's easily to be oing too.

1354
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: Now that the the Bears are catching points at home,

1355
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: like this is the Cowboys outdoors, there might be some weather.

1356
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: They're coming off of an overtime game. Their defense is

1357
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: also horrendous. Deron Bland probably won't play, so their secondary

1358
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: is in shambles. Can Aleb Williams actually make the throws?

1359
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: I didn't. It's hard to trust them. But look, they

1360
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: just lost by thirty. It's usually when I jump in

1361
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: teams that after the week after losing by thirty fifty

1362
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: five percent. Historically, like sample size of like three hundred

1363
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: games as a dog or a favorite, less than a

1364
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: field goal, that that number goes up to about sixty

1365
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: one percent. So yeah, an zero to two underdog here,

1366
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: desperate spot. I think Johnson and Johnson owns that Ebraflus defense,

1367
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: and that Ebrafluse defense is just not going to work

1368
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: with the with Dallas's personnel. Number one, you don't have

1369
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: Parsons anymore, and then especially I don't have to blend

1370
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: your secondaries in chambeles, but you're they don't have the linebackers,

1371
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: and that's like the whole key to you were just

1372
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: mentioning dropping zones. Like in order for Ebraflues to run

1373
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: his zone heavy defense, it is super reliant on number one.

1374
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to get pressure naturally, that's where they're

1375
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: gonna miss Parsons, but it's super reliant on those uh,

1376
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: really athletic linebackers that can fill voids and work the

1377
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: middle of the field, freeing up others. Like they just

1378
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: don't have that. Their linebackers aren't that good. So I

1379
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: think you got to trust the spot and the Bears

1380
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: bouncing back like it helps at its outdoors and Dallas's

1381
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: offense just isn't the same there. But it's scary, like

1382
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to score Caaleb's gonna have to be

1383
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: good because you're their secondary right now, is just not

1384
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: gonna hold down Lamb and in pickings all game.

1385
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: I mean this game.

1386
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 3: I mean, both these two teams could be like six

1387
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 3: win teams, but it's the Tom Brady who's obviously back

1388
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 3: in the headline.

1389
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 2: There would be a lot of people watching.

1390
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 3: This thing, you know, after they're gonna be you talk

1391
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 3: about takes flying Monday. There would be a lot of

1392
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 3: people having thoughts on this game because you know the

1393
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 3: Niners Cardinals, which two two and oh teams. Now, granted,

1394
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 3: you know the Cardinals will play nobody and the Niners

1395
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 3: just got.

1396
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 2: To play the Saints.

1397
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 3: But I mean, this is I was looking at they

1398
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 3: I was watching that the Jim McAfee put up, like

1399
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 3: all the records of all the divisions, this division seven

1400
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 3: to one, right, and one of the losses came because

1401
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 3: they played each other in Seattle in San Francisco. Yeah,

1402
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 3: but this is why, like the schedule matters, and I understand,

1403
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 3: Like I was like on Colin Show and Edelman was there.

1404
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 3: He got offended by saying easy schedules. Now he's been

1405
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 3: taught by Belichick, but there's a big difference of playing

1406
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 3: mac Jones on the road against the Saints instead of

1407
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 3: playing the Bills or the Packers. Like, I'm sorry, they benefit.

1408
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 3: Like if the Niners go eleven, if they're an eleven

1409
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,919
Speaker 3: win team, if they had a hard schedule, they could

1410
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 3: have been an eight win team. It's really going to

1411
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 3: impact them, especially as they're playing young guys Mac Jones.

1412
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but yeah, exactly. I don't know if the

1413
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 2: Cardinals are good.

1414
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 3: I do know that they have been a problem and

1415
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 3: Kyler specifically even in losses for the Niners, with him

1416
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 3: scrambling around, Like when they have been well coached under

1417
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 3: Demico and Sala, like good, good lane, disciplined and being

1418
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,959
Speaker 3: in there, it's hard to coach against this little fucking

1419
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 3: guy because every time I look up when they're playing

1420
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 3: the Panthers or they're playing the Saints in games.

1421
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 2: That're like it's like whatever, they're gonna win this thing.

1422
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 2: You just see this little guy running around back and forth.

1423
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 3: Here you talk about backyard football with Caleb there is

1424
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 3: no more backyard football player in the NFL than Caler Murray.

1425
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: Which he's really talented. So it makes like if he's on.

1426
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 3: It's hard now Marvin Harrison like that pick was the

1427
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 3: wrong pick, Like he's never gonna be Molikue neighbors. And

1428
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 3: they McBride's a good player. They have some offensive weapons. Defensively,

1429
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 3: they have more talent on defense. But what's your take

1430
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 3: on the Cardinals? To me, my bet on this one

1431
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 3: good Niners backup quarterback.

1432
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: Like it makes me a little nervous though, I you know,

1433
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 2: as we're recording this on definitely out I keep going,

1434
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 2: he's not definitely out here.

1435
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: They're probably gonna sit him like they're two and hour, right, don't.

1436
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 3: I think after winning that game, it gives them a

1437
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 3: little breathing room. Yeah, I like the under in this game.

1438
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 3: I looked this more than it was forty five and

1439
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 3: a half, Like I can see this being a lower

1440
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 3: scoring kind of ugly game. But to me, Kyler just

1441
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 3: I could see him just like having a rushing touchdown

1442
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 3: in the second half when a tie, like in a

1443
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 3: thirteen thirteen game, all of a sudden, the Niners are

1444
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,560
Speaker 3: down and they struggled to score with Mac Jones, that

1445
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 3: would be the that's that's there, that's the Cardinals path

1446
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 3: to winning.

1447
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: Is Kyler just making shit up.

1448
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mac Jones, he looked. He looked decent enough last week,

1449
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: by the way, I had that over. I talked about

1450
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: that over because I was like, these two play callers

1451
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: indoors and luckily got there. But I was sat down

1452
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: to watch it and I'm like, oh, Also, the forty

1453
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 1: nine ers have a new kicker, and of course the

1454
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: new kicker misses an extra point that I'm like, this

1455
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 1: is maybe this is a forty nine Ers thing that's

1456
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: just never gonna do.

1457
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 3: The Saint One takeaway, The Saints offense is better than

1458
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 3: the perception I think by people that aren't paying attention.

1459
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 3: They have good wide receivers, tight ends, good player, Kamar

1460
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 3: is good.

1461
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:57,799
Speaker 2: Rattler is not terrible.

1462
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's playing. He's playing like at an average level

1463
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: so far this season. We'll see if he can keep

1464
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: it up. Like obviously he's been at home.

1465
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 2: He's not the perception of him though, I think, yeah, screed.

1466
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had the ball late in like both games twice.

1467
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that they had it twice in the

1468
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 3: Niners game with a chance, you know, down for five points.

1469
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1470
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1471
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: The the problem with this game, like, I don't the

1472
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: mat I don't know who's going to start mac Jones

1473
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: or if it's pretty The one of the biggest things

1474
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on the Cardinals secondary. We just

1475
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,480
Speaker 1: talked about secondaries that are in shambles. The Cardinals cornerback

1476
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: room is decimated. They all their three starters got hurt

1477
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: last week.

1478
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 3: So one of the when is there one of their

1479
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 3: best corners in training camp for the season.

1480
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 2: I think they lost.

1481
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, they lost the corner in trading camp, but they

1482
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 1: Will Johnson didn't practice yesterday. I haven't seen today. He's

1483
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 1: looked out standing, but he got hurt. Melton got hurt

1484
01:09:55,400 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: and they put Williams on ir uh, so they might

1485
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: be without three starting corners, and their corners were starting

1486
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: to look pretty good. I like the room because Will

1487
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: Johnson hit and like if yeah, seriously, but now, like

1488
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: it's not if you lose one your one corner and

1489
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 1: then like another couple of weeks later, like that's bad,

1490
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: but three in the same week and then you got it,

1491
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 1: like that's and they run a lot of complex stuff.

1492
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 1: They run some of the best stuff schematically in the league.

1493
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: So I don't know, like that is are the forty

1494
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 1: nine ers fully capable of exploiting that with their passing attack.

1495
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 2: Maybe Jennings made some plays last week.

1496
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it could be a disaster for the Cardinals defense.

1497
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how they're gonna handle it. They might

1498
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: just go they might be forced to just go super

1499
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: conservative and play insane coverage and just prevent explosives, and

1500
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: or they just switch it up and say we're gonna

1501
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: come after. So I don't know they're gonna play it.

1502
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: I also don't know exactly if like all three are out,

1503
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: So as of right now, I can't bet it, but

1504
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: that if you want to bet that game and you're

1505
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: just looking into it, keep an eye on the injury

1506
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: report for the Cardinals because it would be pretty bad

1507
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: if they're without Let me see if there's an update, y.

1508
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: I mean they're on the West Coast.

1509
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 2: I doubt it.

1510
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Garay Williams on he's on I R. And

1511
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, earlier this season they lost. I mean,

1512
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: Murphy Bunning's out, Darling Thomas is on IR. But will

1513
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: Johnson and Max Knowing if they're out like you're talking about,

1514
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I know most rosters I don't even know,

1515
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: like Denzel Burke, I think who ah, like that's probably

1516
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: you would start. He's another rookie, wasn't supposed to play,

1517
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: like I don't even know the other corner. It's like

1518
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:05,799
Speaker 1: you're talking like you'd also the kid, this guy Clark

1519
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: who will probably play Nickel, so like, hey, they're secondary

1520
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: could be in complete shambles. So that's that with my

1521
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 1: hesitation for the under there, and then that would be

1522
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: my hesitation for like wanting to back the Cardinals. So like, uh,

1523
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 1: if you want to get on a San Fran under three,

1524
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't blame anyone because it just could be a

1525
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: very bad situation.

1526
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 2: I think.

1527
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 3: The the other thing that this is why I always

1528
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 3: say in the draft there is no such thing as

1529
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 3: a high floor, right, I mean talented guys from big

1530
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 3: programs or asking Genty who almost shatters Berry's fan, you

1531
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 3: just never know. Everyone's like Marvin Harrison cannot miss? Well,

1532
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 3: what if he can't because the quarterback and him they

1533
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 3: have no cohesion. He keeps saying like, hey, it's just

1534
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 3: Kyler always has weird comments, like the situation now is

1535
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 3: it wasn't just last year, it's carrying into this year.

1536
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 2: He's got eleven targets.

1537
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 3: Through two games and every time I hear, like, see

1538
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 3: a clip of Kyler, it doesn't feel like he's ready

1539
01:12:58,360 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 3: to force feed.

1540
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 2: Him the rock. I mean, clearly Kyler doesn't think he's

1541
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 2: as good. Is the way everyone told me that Marvin

1542
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 2: Harrison was as good.

1543
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they like the Cardinals are like I think

1544
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: their staff is really smart, their coordinators, their head coach Tarlie.

1545
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: But and they're building this team in the right way.

1546
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: Obviously it'd be so much better at that neighbors. But

1547
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: they need like this is a team, like I've met

1548
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: them to go to the playoffs this year. This is

1549
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: a team that their win total was like eight and

1550
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: a half, Like they're expected to be a winning team

1551
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:31,640
Speaker 1: in order to get there. And then, like we just

1552
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: talked about this division is going to be a war,

1553
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: they need Harrison to hit, Like, yeah, the run game

1554
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: is gonna be good and McBride's gonna be good. But

1555
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: they look at their other receivers. It's like Zay Jones

1556
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: and Michael Wilson. It's like if Harrison doesn't hit, like

1557
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 1: you're you're building that offense on, Like, Okay, you got

1558
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 1: McBride a good run game, and then we have our

1559
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: top pick that's going to be the stud number one,

1560
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: and then you can have role players. But if he's

1561
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: not the alpha one, it just doesn't work and the

1562
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,719
Speaker 1: ceiling of that offense is so much lower.

1563
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:21,879
Speaker 2: Okay, two more games, Let's go Rams Eagles. Uh.

1564
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 3: You know I saw the highlight I remember last year

1565
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 3: in that playoff game. Was it the first drive where

1566
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 3: Jalen busted a long runner? Was like the first couple

1567
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 3: of plays of the game. And clearly if he's run

1568
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 3: around making plays, their offense is a different animal.

1569
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 2: You watch them this year, I mean, their passing game

1570
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 2: is atrocious. People people making.

1571
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 3: Fun of Chris Jones for saying the comment. All he's

1572
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 3: saying is like, you don't get to say, shit, you

1573
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 3: didn't do a goddamn thing beside the fucking tush push.

1574
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 3: You're throwing one hundred yards a game. You're the defending champs.

1575
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 3: Like I'm on Chris Jones side. They're like, yeah, we

1576
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 3: lost the game, but like, you don't get to boast,

1577
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 3: you know, of all the people, I just think they're

1578
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 3: passing game, like the thing with Philly, And you know,

1579
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 3: I haven't grown up there that it's good they're two

1580
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 3: and oh they're defending Jamps. But the undercurrent is like,

1581
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 3: what's up of their offensive coordinator. And we have seen

1582
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 3: this now twice in the last four years.

1583
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 2: Their coordinator.

1584
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 3: When they get it right, they're unstoppable. Well, right now

1585
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 3: the passing game, something just looks up.

1586
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 2: It's not like A J.

1587
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 3: Brown's not there. It's not like Devonte Smith's not there.

1588
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 3: It's not like their offensive line's not there. Some's off now. Luckily,

1589
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 3: their defense is well coached. They got the Chiefs who

1590
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 3: struggling offensively. But some something concerns me.

1591
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 2: And it's hard.

1592
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 3: I've never betting the Titans again stucky until like Steve

1593
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 3: mcdaer two point zero shows up. But the Rams, I

1594
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 3: think it looked pretty good. I mean, if Stafford's healthy,

1595
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 3: like I like the Rams in this spot.

1596
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I play the Rams. It's getting Goddard back.

1597
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 1: I believe that he should play. That'll help the Eagles.

1598
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: But yeah, their offense is broken, like there's no creativity.

1599
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: There's they're telegraphing their plays like when when what they

1600
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: they're in is you can tell when they're running or passing.

1601
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 1: It's really bad. It could just be a Brian Johnson

1602
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 1: two point zero situation. Think about this. They've only completed

1603
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: two passes over ten yards in two weeks. One of

1604
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: them was just a jump ball to DeVante Smith down

1605
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: the side. Yeah, that was it. That's it. And they

1606
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: played the Cowboys, who just gave up seven trillion passing

1607
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: yards to Russell Wilson. And then they played the Chiefs,

1608
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,879
Speaker 1: who has issues on the back end, like the Chargers

1609
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: ripped them apart, like this is not the same chief

1610
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,600
Speaker 1: secondary and they couldn't do anything. And yeah, the Rams,

1611
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: their offense and the Eagles defense is going to take

1612
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: a step back. They lost a ton of talent, They're

1613
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 1: not getting as much pressure. So yeah, I mean this

1614
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: is big revenge spot for the Rams. McVeigh eighteen eleven

1615
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: and two against the spread as an underdog of more

1616
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 1: than three points. He also his teams are always ready

1617
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: and prepared for these East Coast games. I don't know

1618
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,759
Speaker 1: what he does the routine that they have, but he's

1619
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 1: has has had. He has had as much success as

1620
01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 1: any head coach NFL going west to East. He's fourteen

1621
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 1: seven and one against the spread in the Eastern time

1622
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 1: zone sixty seven percent, covering by about six points per game.

1623
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 1: Just look at last year, like with older Stafford in

1624
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 1: the snow. They were twenty yards away from beating the Eagles,

1625
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: who went went on to dominate the Super Bowl. So yeah,

1626
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 1: I mean, the Rams have had this game circle. Their

1627
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,799
Speaker 1: defense is playing well, their offense is on fire. DeVonta

1628
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: Adams has been an upgrade effort, is playing out of

1629
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 1: his mind. He's apparently ageless. The other thing is this

1630
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: is like really in the weeds. But if I had,

1631
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 1: if I could bet this, I would all this discourse

1632
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: around the Tushbush and mcday went to the league this

1633
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: week on Wednesday, and he used to be on the

1634
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: rules committee. He went to the league and wanted to

1635
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: talk about the tush push. Well, everyone's talking about this.

1636
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: Everyone clearly saw that the Eagles went you know, they

1637
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 1: were lining up all sides. There was a couple of

1638
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: false starts that they didn't call. Now there's also a

1639
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 1: couple new zone infractions that they weren't called. But all

1640
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 1: this talk about it, every show is talking about it,

1641
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: like all over Twitter. So what I think is going

1642
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: to happen this week is you're going to see like,

1643
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, three or four penalties on it, depending

1644
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 1: on how often it gets wrung. But it's just such

1645
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: a huge swing play. And here's the thing. If it's

1646
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 1: on the defense, so if they're going to.

1647
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 2: Like say, okay, here, neutral zone, it.

1648
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: Doesn't really matter because the Eagles were going to get

1649
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 1: it anyway. So it's just five yards. But the difference

1650
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: between the Eagles like fourth and one at the goal line, Oh,

1651
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 1: they're going to score. But if they call the false start,

1652
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: that's four points off the board. Yeah, if it's at

1653
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: the fifty yard line and you call it instead of

1654
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: keeping your drive going, that's a punt. So it's way

1655
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: more detrimental to call it on the offense. I think

1656
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 1: they're going to make an example maybe of both sides,

1657
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: so that could help the Rams. I think you're going

1658
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 1: to see those calls also, Like the Eagles when they're

1659
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 1: laying they're like the New Chiefs, Like when they're laying

1660
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: over a field goal, Like this offense just looks like

1661
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: a can't build margin. But if they're winning by a

1662
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: field goal, like they're more likely than any team in

1663
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 1: the NFL to win by just a field goal because

1664
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 1: if they have the ball up a field goal with

1665
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: like nine minutes to go, they're gonna go three yards

1666
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 1: three yards toush Bush touch Bush, four minutes off the clock,

1667
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: three yards. It took Service Academy. And then they're gonna

1668
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna go thirty yards down the field

1669
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 1: in eight minutes and then take knees and then if

1670
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: you bet the Eagles, you're like, oh my god. But

1671
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I like the Rams.

1672
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 2: Here.

1673
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:19,879
Speaker 1: Look out the penalties in the touch push.

1674
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 3: It, Well, you're right, they call the false start on

1675
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 3: the offense. The touch push is dead right if that

1676
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 3: happened on that individual drive. Now, I haven't broken down

1677
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 3: every time, obviously, they don't jump every time. They clearly

1678
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 3: were doing against the Chiefs, you.

1679
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: Know, and they should have lost that. They should have

1680
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 1: lost that Chiefs game. Kelsey catches it was. That play

1681
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 1: was worth negative seven and a half expected points. I

1682
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 1: go from a touchdown to sixty yards the other way

1683
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: and then a touchdown like that was as big of

1684
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: a swing as you'll ever see in an NFL game.

1685
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, the Eagles. Eagles have certainly been a bit lucky,

1686
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: which is covered up. They're still good and but like

1687
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: I think about all that, you're opposite ceedee lambad. Like

1688
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys could have beat them in Week one.

1689
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 3: They well, they better take advantage of it. Do you

1690
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 3: expect the Tousch push to get banned in the middle

1691
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 3: of the season, Probably.

1692
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: Not, right, No, I don't think they can do it.

1693
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 1: They'd have to do it in the off season.

1694
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 3: Now.

1695
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: Last year, yeah, because there were two votes short and now,

1696
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 1: like I think that game on, Like that game just

1697
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: magnified it and it probably among a couple of people.

1698
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: I think the twelve percent of their plays this year

1699
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 1: have been the Tousch push, which is insane. So I'm

1700
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 1: sure the NFL doesn't like it because like it's it's

1701
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: just boring, right, and they're trying to like increase action

1702
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 1: and points and like part of the kickoff rule was

1703
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 1: that and like the Eagles going on an eight minute

1704
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 1: rugby drive probably isn't the the best entertainment product, which

1705
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, that's partly what they're

1706
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: they're trying to put out. So yeah, I wouldn't be

1707
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 1: shocked if if it does get banned in this offseason.

1708
01:20:58,560 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1709
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, before I jumped on, I was going over the

1710
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 3: board and had cowered On in the back and you

1711
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 3: know his he was basically and I totally agree that

1712
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 3: you know, the shift wasn't that big a deal when

1713
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 3: a couple teams did it here and there for a

1714
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 3: player or two. When everybody did it for every guy

1715
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,679
Speaker 3: in the lineup, it became like, we can't watch this anymore.

1716
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 3: Hack a shack for Shaquille O'Neal, no big deal. But

1717
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 3: when you start hacking literally every big guy, they can't

1718
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 3: chew free throws, no one's gonna want to watch this.

1719
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 3: Like it was a tough watch last I mean, this

1720
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 3: is ultimately entertainment, and it's really boring to watch when

1721
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 3: part of football is you don't know what's gonna happen.

1722
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 3: Even someone DM me like, why don't you just ban

1723
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 3: the quarterback sneak because quarterback sneaks get stuffed all the time.

1724
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 2: And the other thing is like that anyone for the

1725
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 2: Eagles could run it.

1726
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 3: I disagree because if you put Tanner McKee on the

1727
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 3: play where Chris Jones jumps over and grabs Jalen, I

1728
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,839
Speaker 3: don't think Tanner McKee has the strength to drag Chris Jones,

1729
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 3: but Jalen is.

1730
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 2: You can spot like, yeah, he's the strongest quarterback of

1731
01:21:59,280 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 2: all time.

1732
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 3: Who's also you know, even like Cam and Josh they're

1733
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 3: leverage because there's so much taller.

1734
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 2: They're like basketball players.

1735
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 3: Jalen's built like Saquon, So it's it's it's an outlier situation.

1736
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 3: It's as much him to me as the offensive line,

1737
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 3: which obviously they have a powerful offensive line, but they

1738
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 3: have this fucking quarterback who's built like a little tank.

1739
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 1: That's a huge, huge part of it. He also has

1740
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: we talked about this last week. He also has the

1741
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: knack for where to go. Yeah, some quarterbacks don't have

1742
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Yeah, they're just like, oh, I don't know

1743
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:31,560
Speaker 1: where to go?

1744
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 2: See it in college? A lot like that play does

1745
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 2: not work in college often. Yeah.

1746
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Arch Arch was.

1747
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 2: A disaster that first week.

1748
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: He was like, eh, but it shows you the one

1749
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 1: thing that the difference in that game, which was so apparent,

1750
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 1: is that because when it's fourth and inches, you should

1751
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 1: be able to sneak it most times and like when

1752
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: you need it, and the Chiefs don't have a sneak

1753
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: And I even screaming this because they won't do it

1754
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: because Mahomes is hurt, like he got hurt one time

1755
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: to seven years ago. He's like, what other quarterback you

1756
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 1: ever seen get hurt? On a sneak, so the Chiefs

1757
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 1: refuse to do it. They got stopped on a fourth

1758
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 1: and one, like just blown up there was there and

1759
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: then Eagles. Meanwhile, on every fourth and one, those huge

1760
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 1: swing plays. I've been yelling this that every team should

1761
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 1: just have a guy that if you don't want your quarterback,

1762
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 1: if you're a great your quarterback, have a guy that

1763
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: just practices it. A big guy, big strong guy, practices

1764
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,839
Speaker 1: a snap and then do it. Like the Chiefs, they

1765
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 1: don't have a run game, so on these fourth and ones, like,

1766
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 1: they got to get so creative and it's just not

1767
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 1: as efficient as just going up and sneaking it. So

1768
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 1: it was very evident that game.

1769
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 3: Okay, uh Monday night, I just maybe I'm overreacting to

1770
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 3: one game, but like I do think the Lions lost

1771
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 3: to the Packers aged a little bit better once we

1772
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 3: saw the Packers play another game. I do think they

1773
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 3: you know, the players that got their ass kicked by

1774
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 3: the Ravens, who honestly got to be one of the

1775
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 3: better teams to not win a Super Bowl over the

1776
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 3: last twenty five years when you factor in they had

1777
01:23:57,960 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson like in his prime and one of the

1778
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 3: great defenses of its era with with Mike McDonald calling defense.

1779
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:05,959
Speaker 3: So I mean that team, I think if you simulate

1780
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 3: it five times, win some Super Bowls. Maybe three of

1781
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 3: the five times, maybe four of this five times. But

1782
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 3: I just kind of feel like I like the Lions

1783
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 3: and the points.

1784
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 2: In this matchup. Maybe I'm overreacting to last week. Clearly

1785
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: the Ravens are good. I do just I don't know.

1786
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I think this is kind of an easy

1787
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 3: rallying cry to for a lot of those guys were

1788
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 3: a part of that ass kicking. I know, Goff outdoors,

1789
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 3: different animal. I think he had a comment and it could.

1790
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 2: Be the Bears.

1791
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 3: That's the best pass protection he'd ever had in a

1792
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 3: game in his career. So not a great indication of

1793
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 3: the Bears front, which included the Ravens are gonna be

1794
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 3: better every time I look up. I mean, Wiggins, do

1795
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 3: the Ravens ever miss on a pick? I mean, it's

1796
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 3: like they just get this guy at the end of

1797
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 3: the first round and he's just fucking making.

1798
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 1: Usually receivers they hit on, but for twenty years they

1799
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 1: couldn't hit on a receiver. It was a blind spot

1800
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: for their entire scouting department who usually is nails on,

1801
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 1: but uh.

1802
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 3: You know Flacco's for a lot of that period of

1803
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 3: time wasn't exactly paid Manning.

1804
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 1: Yes, but even before like even like you go back Flacco. Yeah, Like, well,

1805
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 1: like Kyle Bowl they also couldn't drat the quarterback, quarterback

1806
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver they got they hit, they hit on Flacco,

1807
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 1: but the Kyle Bowler pick that was wrong. But guys

1808
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: like Travis Taylor, I mean there's a Mark Clayton, guys

1809
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: that just never hit. Like in order to get over

1810
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:30,759
Speaker 1: the hump they had, they went out and got Bolden

1811
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: like and that's how they won the Super Bowl. They

1812
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 1: had to go and sign him. Yeah, the two things

1813
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: you really want to watch here, Like, like I mentioned

1814
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: last week, like I don't take too much from the

1815
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 1: lines running it up. They were at home, the Bears

1816
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 1: had no secondary. They were playing a scheme that is,

1817
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: you don't want to play against toff, you don't want

1818
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 1: to play man and if you're not going to get pressure.

1819
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 1: That won't be the case in Baltimore. It'll be a

1820
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: completely different animal. So I think the lines will look

1821
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle of what we saw in Week one.

1822
01:25:56,080 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: In Week two, I mean Lamar, and they don't usually

1823
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 1: ever lose these primetime games at home. I the two

1824
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: guys that I'm watching to see. The Ravens offense isn't

1825
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 1: the same without Likely, apparently he's practicing today. If he's back,

1826
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 1: their offense becomes so much more difficult to defend. Like

1827
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 1: they got to practice guy up there, and Mark Andrews is'

1828
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 1: is the same guy, and they have a practice guy

1829
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: wh's getting snaps. That's just the like they don't really

1830
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 1: have to pay attention to. But when they have Likely,

1831
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: it's a whole different offense, and it's so much harder

1832
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: to defend schematically, like what are they going to do?

1833
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 1: And you can go in so many different formations and

1834
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 1: you can put you can put the defense in compromise situations.

1835
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: So if he's back, and then Marlon Humphrey, who got

1836
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 1: hurt over the weekend, if he's back, that's huge. They

1837
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 1: need him in the slot, especially against i'm monra on

1838
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 1: that offense. So that's what I'm waiting for. I my

1839
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 1: initial gut says Ravens, but I haven't bet it yet.

1840
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 1: It'll be a great game to watch, so highly entertaining.

1841
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait, okay, before I get you out

1842
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 3: of her, any Tulane, any big upset alerts in college.

1843
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 3: I got a little hole favorite parlay Utah Oklahoma. You

1844
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 3: get him about plus one twenty five parlay. It was

1845
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:11,839
Speaker 3: just money line h in my yet Texas Tech Auburn

1846
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 3: like either one of those teams to ruin my parlay

1847
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 3: too late, I might be thinking about that group.

1848
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: They know they know Jackson on a well out of

1849
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 1: Oklahoma defensive staff, so they should have some really good

1850
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: stuff dialed up.

1851
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 2: The defense looks sweet right now.

1852
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and their defense is really really good. Kendrick Falk

1853
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 1: for Auburn, keep it. He's an NFL player, maybe a

1854
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 1: first rounder. He's gonna have to wreck havoc in his

1855
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: game for Auburn. Auburn also has secondary injuries, which isn't great.

1856
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: But Kendrick Falk in this Oklahoma offensive line is there

1857
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 1: one week point and they've had injuries and they got

1858
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 1: two freshmen in there. If he can like wreck the game,

1859
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 1: that's probably Auburn's best shot.

1860
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1861
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 1: Utah, Yeah, Utah, Texas. I don't have a great feel

1862
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 1: on it because just because neither team has played anybody,

1863
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: so Morton looks great. The passing offense for Texas Tech.

1864
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: The old line for Utah's unbelievable, one of the best

1865
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 1: in the country. Texas Tech went out and got dudes

1866
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 1: on the defensive line they have one of the best

1867
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 1: of that matchup's great. The Utah receivers aren't great, and

1868
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 1: the Texas Tech corners aren't great. So like does everything

1869
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: washes out? It's gonna come down to like and then

1870
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 1: one of these teams wants to run it one of

1871
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: the team. It's like an air raid versus like a

1872
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 1: run raid for lack of a better term. So like

1873
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 1: good contrast style starts at ten am.

1874
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 2: What time is that mountain time? Ten am?

1875
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 1: Mountain time is local, so the people will talk about

1876
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 1: the altitude not that big of a deal because Utah

1877
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City is like forty five hundred feet. People

1878
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: don't realize Lubbock's like thirty five hundred So like Ubic

1879
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: is in well probably like the seventh or eighth highest

1880
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 1: college town in the country. But weird start. So like

1881
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 1: I've on Texas Tech, I'm I don't know if I'm

1882
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 1: probably happy about it. You don't want to play right

1883
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: cycled at night places the Zoo but I don't have

1884
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 1: a shit.

1885
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 3: It's almost like Utah couldn't turn down. I mean, there's

1886
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 3: a lot of people watching this game, right.

1887
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 1: The big new kickof yeah, it's probably good. Did just

1888
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 1: because they don't get any exposure. No one's watching their

1889
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 1: games as far as nationally. Uh So, no strong feel there.

1890
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 1: What a random one I'll throw out.

1891
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 3: I just brought it tou lanecause they were undefeated. They're

1892
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,679
Speaker 3: obviously pretty good. You know, obviously Ole miss is good too.

1893
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 1: But I don't mind Tulane there. I got twelve and

1894
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 1: a half. I look this morning, NIU is a good

1895
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: bet against Mississippi State. Thomas Hammock, the coach for an IU,

1896
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 1: is like five and twenty one against the spread as

1897
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 1: a favorite, and he's like twenty two and six against

1898
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 1: the spread as an underdog, like we saw him beat

1899
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 1: Notre Dame last year. You went into Georgia Tech and

1900
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: beat them because they just will scrine this game down

1901
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 1: to an absolute halt, like they've They were at Maryland

1902
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: last week and like they lost it. The game was

1903
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: like eighteen six in the fourth quarter. They knew how

1904
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: to go in and he has them ready for these

1905
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 1: like big games and plus Misissippi State has uh Tennessee

1906
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: and Texas A and m on deck sleepy Spot twenty

1907
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 1: one and a half and then my favorite bet this

1908
01:29:56,560 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 1: is really random, but Miami Ohio at home noon kick

1909
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 1: against UNLV, Like, first of all, it's a nine am

1910
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 1: body clock game for UNLV out of conference going up

1911
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 1: to Oxford, Ohio like really weird spot. Mima Ohio hasn't

1912
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: won a game yet, they're looking for the first win,

1913
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 1: but they played. All they have played is big ten

1914
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 1: teams and UNLB as one of the weakest UNLV's they're

1915
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 1: three and oh they've played UCLA, who they barely be,

1916
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 1: who is in shambles. They fired their coach. It's they

1917
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: just lost by thirty five and owned the New Mexico.

1918
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 1: So they beat UCLI. They beat Sam Houston, who's probably

1919
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 1: the worst, one of the three worst teams in the country,

1920
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 1: and then Idaho State who they almost lost to at home.

1921
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,560
Speaker 1: So their profile is a complete broad huge strength of

1922
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 1: scheduled disparity, big special teams at for my ole high

1923
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 1: like a bunch of the little things. Weird spot for UNLV.

1924
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 1: I think Mima Ohio gets it done at home noon

1925
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: Eastern on ESPNU I'll be one of the seven people

1926
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 1: watching that.

1927
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 2: You are a true sicko. That's why we love you.

1928
01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 2: Have a good weekend, stuck you, Talk to you soon.

1929
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely too. Rock the volume

1930
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 3: Mhm