1 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is our special on the Anti Communist Manifesto, 2 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: and we're going to go to my friend and mentor 3 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: Michael Berry and actually syndicated radio host Michael Berry here 4 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: in just a couple of minutes that he's going to 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: interview me. I'm going to be interviewed like I'm super important. 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: But I probably should explain really quickly before we go 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: to Michael why I wrote the book at all, because 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: I am not an author. I need to be clear 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: about this. I am not an author. I have never 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: had any desire to be an author. I still don't 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: want to be an author. There's not going to be 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: a book series. At least I think there's not going 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: to be a book series coming out. I'm not going 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: to do a book a year or anything like that. 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: I hate to write. I love to talk to you 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: on TV. I like to talk to you on the radio. 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: But I despise writing. Is that weird? Probably is like 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: if you told me I had to sit down and 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: talk to you for an hour on camera that every day. 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: I love that. If you told me I had to 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: write a thousand words about anything, pick a subject, I 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: would have this not in my stomach. The kind of 23 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: not most people get. When they have to speak in 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: front of people, you realize that that's how much I 25 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: hate to write. And so my buddy Chris balf is 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: my business partner. Really, Chris balf came to me a 27 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: couple of years ago and he said, hey, I want 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: you to write a book. And Chris knows me, he 29 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: knows I don't want to write a book. He said, 30 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: I want you to write a book. I said, okay, 31 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: what about I don't want to write a book. He said, 32 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: hear me out the anti Communist Manifesto. Now that, now 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: that I told him, was a book I just might write. 34 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: And so I got with my buddy Nick Rizzuto, my 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: co author, and what we did was we came up 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: with a book. I can't believe it's a national bestseller. 37 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: Now that's totally weird to me, but we came up 38 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: with a book. And what it is is it lays 39 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: out the communism here in the United States of America. 40 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: It lays out how it got here historically Paris, and 41 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: probably most importantly, it lays out things that you can 42 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: do about it. You know, it's not just a book 43 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: like the normal ones are. I hate these kinds of 44 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: books and just tell you, well, this sucks, that sucks, 45 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: and that sucks. Best of luck. No lays out what 46 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 1: the problems are and action items for us to do 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: things about them. That's what I like the most about it. 48 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: Don't tell me the problems, tell me the solutions. That's 49 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: what the anti Communist Manifesto is is. And of course 50 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: maybe there's some jokes in there. Maybe, just maybe you'll 51 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: snicker a few times, but hopefully you enjoyed it and 52 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: it is safe for your kids. Just like this show, 53 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: just like everything else kids cross country have read it 54 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: to It's totally fine for kiddos. All right, all right, 55 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: So let's see what Michael Berry wants to talk to 56 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: me about next. You know, a long time ago, actually 57 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: about six and a half years ago, I was not 58 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: doing this for a living. I was selling RV's This 59 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: is back when I had hair and a lot less 60 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: gray in my beard, and I got to know somebody, 61 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: big shot, nationally syndicated radio host, Michael Berry. Basically for me, 62 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: he was someone I listened to on the radio. And 63 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: he sends me a message one day and says, hey, 64 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: come on my show. I need to go on the 65 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: Michael Berry Show and I'm selling RV's. I'm in the 66 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: RV dealership and I go again, I'm on Michael Berry Show. 67 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: It was cool, but it was twenty minutes. And then 68 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: I hung up and didn't think about it again. And 69 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: that night I'm in the Taco Bell drive through and 70 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: I get a phone call from Michael Barry calling my cellphone, 71 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: just a BS, just to talk about things. And then 72 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: we started hanging out. And guess why you get to 73 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: watch yours truly here on the first every single day 74 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: because Michael Berry told me, you need to give it 75 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: a shot, give a media career a shot, and so 76 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: here I am. Now you're stuck with me joining me 77 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: now somebody who has not only pushed me into this, 78 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: has mentor word me every step of the way. My 79 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: good friend Michael Berry. Michael, you have such an incredible 80 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: eye for talent. 81 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: I do. Yes, I recognized the talent that was Jesse 82 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: Kelly in our first radio interview, and the rest, as 83 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: they say, is history. People call me by different names. 84 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: Had a shirt, I mean I had a cap made 85 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: about this. Yes, and today is a special day because, 86 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: as I hope you've told your viewers, this is the 87 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: day that the anti Communist Manifesto hits the shelves in 88 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: paperback form. So the production team and I thought would 89 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 2: be a good idea of instead of you talking to everybody, 90 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: I interview. 91 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: You. 92 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: First of all, I write this book? 93 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: Why? What? 94 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: Why write the this book? 95 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: Well? I don't like to write, you know, I told 96 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: you that all the time, because you were always nagging 97 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: at me. I gotta write more, I gotta Why are 98 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: you not writing more? Because you were always on me 99 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: about that. You need to write an article about this. 100 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: You need to get your name out there. 101 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: I was always complaining and those were good, and so 102 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: you clearly have a knack for writing. 103 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was for the it was for the Federalist, 104 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: and I did do some things for town Hall, and 105 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 1: there's a couple other places I forgot. But I hate 106 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: to write. I've tried to explain this to people. I 107 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: tried to whine to you about it all the time, 108 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: and you were nagging at me about it. I don't 109 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: like to write a My wife did the same thing. 110 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: She's like, you need to write, you need to write. 111 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: I hate writing. I realize people enjoy the things that 112 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: I write for some reason, probably because I'm stupid, and 113 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: it's easy for everyone to understand. But but I don't 114 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: like to write. I hate to write, and I never 115 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: wanted to write a book, and I don't ever want 116 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: to write another one. The idea of writing an anti 117 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: communist manifesto because of my hatred for communists was appealing 118 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: to me. It was. It's the only thing that was 119 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: appealing to me. Because Chris Balf, my good friend, business partner, 120 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: Chris Balf, begged me forever to write a book too, 121 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: and I just wouldn't. And finally he's the one who 122 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: pitched me on that idea, and I thought, you know, 123 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: it was like a light bulb came on as soon 124 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: as he said it. I thought to myself, wow, that 125 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: that's probably something I could dig into. But even that, 126 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: for me was insurmountable. As I told him in the open, Michael, 127 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: that that feeling most people get when they when they 128 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: have to speak in front of people, and they get 129 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: that feeling in the pit of their stomach where you 130 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: have a moment where you think I'd rather die than 131 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: get up in front of people and speak. It's a 132 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: very human thing. You know. You don't have that anymore. 133 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: And I don't have that anymore. But it's a very 134 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: natural thing. That's what I feel like if I have 135 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: to write even a thousand words, If you if we 136 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: hung up here and you called me and said you'd 137 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: have to write something on the border and get it 138 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: turned into the Federalist, and you're all all over me 139 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: about it, like I would feel borderline physically sick. That's 140 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: how much I hate writing. But this book meant the 141 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: concept of this meant enough to me, and I thought 142 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: I could maybe do it well. And I thought, well, 143 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,119 Speaker 1: screw it, you might as well give it a shot. 144 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: And so now I'm a world famous author, Michael world famous. 145 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: Indeed, I can't question I thought that the reason for 146 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: the book was as a delivery mechanism for your burger recipe. 147 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: I thought it was really just a strojan horse, get 148 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: the burger recipe into as many hands as you possibly could. 149 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: But you know, on that subject, Rush Limbaugh used to 150 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: say after he wrote his second book, he said, there 151 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: will be no more books. People would ask for more books, 152 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: and he said, I don't have an iron butt. And 153 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: I've always liked that line. Because we sit, you know, 154 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: you sit and do television, You sit and do radio. 155 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: When we're done with that, we don't want to sit 156 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: and write more. And it's hard. It's hard to imagine, 157 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: you know, the brain power that that requires, the tedium 158 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: that that requires. Like Carol Markowitz, our mutual friend Karl 159 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: mark Witz, I think she could write in her sleep. 160 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: It comes very naturally to her. But I think for 161 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: us we are communicators by voice and expressive in this 162 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: way verbally and not in the written form. So I look, 163 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: although all kit in a side, hats off to you 164 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: for finishing the damn thing? 165 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: You know, isn't that? Don't you find what you just 166 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: said kind of weird? Or I find it kind of 167 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: weird people like Carol who can just sit down and 168 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: just hammer out subject and in fact they love it, 169 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: like they enjoy it. I don't get that at all. 170 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: But Carol, Dave Marcus is this way. These types just 171 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: natural writers can sit down and it just flows from them, 172 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: like anyone who listens to your radio show can hear, 173 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: it just flows out of you. It's effortless, right. I 174 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: can't write like that, you know, I can. You asked 175 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: me to sit in time for three hours. I run 176 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: my mouth for three hours. I'll talk about cheeseburgers for 177 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: three hours. But if you ask me to write it down, 178 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: I don't express myself in that way. And people who 179 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: have that talent, I'm envious of it. You know, people 180 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: watch us through radio and TV and think it's all 181 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: fancy or whatnot. But I'm jealous of the people who 182 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: can write. If you can sit and write, I wish 183 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: I could do that, because that's in my opinion, yes exactly. 184 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: I was about to say, it's it's longer lasting. You know, 185 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: someone's long after I'm dead and gone. Someone's gonna pick 186 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: up the Anti Communist Manifesto. They're not going to download 187 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: the Jesse Kelly Show podcast, but they might pick up 188 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: the J book. 189 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: And Pj's not around anymore, but I can still laugh 190 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: at his jokes. You know, songwriters and great artists will 191 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: say I've seen them interviewed and they will say that 192 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: the greatest compliment they can give to another song is 193 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: that they hate the person who wrote it because they 194 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 2: wished they had written it. I have to tell you, 195 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: doing what I do, and having done it since long 196 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: before you were doing it, when you created the language 197 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 2: around communism for what the left is and started shoehorning 198 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 2: it into that and giving kind of a structure to 199 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: You need to understand these people aren't just out there 200 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 2: in the ether operating. This is a redux of what 201 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: we've seen before. They are communists. That I hated you 202 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 2: for that, because why couldn't I have thought of that, 203 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: because it made it, It made it much more understandable 204 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: and accessible, And I hats off to you for that. 205 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I study my enemy, right, I mean we 206 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: always we all know this, especially dudes. No this that 207 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: you study your enemy what works and what doesn't work. 208 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: We have we had the Marines working with the Chi 209 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: Kongs in before World War two to learn about jungle warfare. Right, 210 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: you study your enemy how does he operate? And one 211 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: thing that really really hit me as I watched you know, 212 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: you watch enough of the news and read enough crap 213 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: and you're watching videos on social media, it really hits 214 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: you how purposeful the communist is with his language, so 215 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: oh incredibly purposeful discipline. He demands the discipline of his 216 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: fellow communists. Go ahead and watch a CNN panel where 217 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: you have a bunch of Democrats on there, and watch 218 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: even one of them call an illegal in illegal well 219 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: in illegal. He will be We've all seen it a 220 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: million times. He or she will be scolded by his 221 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: fellow communists. Well, well, we don't say that word here. 222 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: We'd like to use the word undocumented. Why are they 223 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: so purposeful about it? Because language leads to mindset, you know, 224 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: leads to mindset, and mindset leads to performance. So if 225 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: you want the American people to be more accepting of 226 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: importing millions of foreign barbarians, you don't call them illegals. 227 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,119 Speaker 1: You call them undocumented. And then it sounds like Loupe 228 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: tripped over the border to have eighteen kids here instead 229 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: of purposely invading the country, which is what she did 230 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: to have all of her kids become American citizens. So 231 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: they are purposeful with how they speak. And I didn't 232 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: like how unpurposeful. I'm sure that's not a word, you know, Michael, 233 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: I didn't go to college. I didn't like how unpurpose 234 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: is full of the right was because most of us, 235 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: obviously it's not a universal, come from a place of honesty. Right, 236 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: You want to be honest. We care about the truth 237 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: and facts and things like that. So we just speak, 238 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: you know, we just talk. But the communist is framing 239 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: everything he's framing it, he's labeling it. He's branding everything, 240 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: which is something you're always writing me about is branding. 241 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: He's branding we're being branded as Nazis, as white supremacist, 242 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: as this and that, because he's focused with his language. 243 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: And I did not like our lack of focus and 244 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: decided to attempt, in my own small way to try 245 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: to focus things. That's why the. 246 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 2: Anti Communist Manifesto is out today in paperback, the more 247 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 2: affordable version with Jesse's famous burger recipe at the end. 248 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: Tell me what reaction you received from readers, because you 249 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: read your emails. We talked about this for a long 250 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: time from your TV viewers. You read your emails from 251 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: your listeners. What was a reaction to the book that 252 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: you received that surprise you or you at least didn't expect. 253 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: Well, you know how we just talked about how I 254 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: don't like writing every single thing I ever wrote, you know, 255 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: a little article for the Federalists, every single thing I 256 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: ever wrote. When I was done writing it, I hated it. 257 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: I would read it several times and I would think 258 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: that this is a slop. It's not intelligent, it's not entertaining. 259 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: And you know, what do you do. You send it 260 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: to family, you know, you send it to your mom. 261 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: I would, I would send it to my mom, But 262 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: what's your mom gonna say. That's the greatest thing I've 263 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: ever read in my life. But even still, nothing cured 264 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: the fact that I hated it. When Nick Rizzuto and 265 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: I wrote this book, when it was finally done, we 266 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: did this long weekend meetup where we kind of ripped 267 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: up and rewrote this and I didn't like the wording here. 268 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: So we're rewriting all this stuff, and we finally we 269 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: have the finishing touches on it, and I read through 270 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: the entire thing again when it was done. I thought 271 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: it sucked. I really genuinely thought it sucked. I thought 272 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: the stuff that he did, you know, the research the 273 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: facts was so fascinating because I nerd out on that. 274 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: But I thought, I really genuinely thought it sucked. And 275 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: everyone knows I'm not being fake humble. I'm the least 276 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: humble person in the world. I just don't think I 277 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: write well. And so I read the book and I thought, 278 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: this is garbage. It's garbage. It's going to be another 279 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: one of those books that somebody, some conservative rites and 280 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: it gets published, but then it disappears into the ether 281 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: after a few days because it really kind of freaking sucked. 282 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: That really was one hundred percent what I thought was 283 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: going to happen. And then boom, it just takes off 284 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: and it's national bestseller and people are emailing the show. 285 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: It's one of the best books I've ever read. I 286 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: bought five copies. I'm handing it to friends and family, 287 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: and I to this day it's the most surprised I've 288 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: ever been in my six and a half years of 289 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: doing media. The most surprised by a mile I've ever 290 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: been has been the listener and viewer reaction to the book, 291 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: how much it was. It was universal. I don't think 292 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: I got one from a listener that said that was 293 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: very good, and they just did backflips over the whole thing. 294 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: I still don't get it. I still think it sucks. 295 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: It's amazing. 296 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: They're talking about the perpetuity in which a book can 297 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: be kept right. That was Ray Bradbury's fen Fahrenheit four 298 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 2: or five to one is burn all the books and 299 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: you burn all the knowledge, because that's how we pass 300 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: from generation to generation. We can go back and read 301 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: him away. We can go back and read Shakespeare, we 302 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: can go back into history and read the words of 303 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: people that we don't mean. But what's fascinating about a book? 304 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: And I think that's why it was important you did this. 305 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: I think what makes it so amazing is you and 306 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: I and everybody watching you is part of a movement 307 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: to take back our country, to improve the lives of 308 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: our children and grandchildren, to make America great again. I mean, 309 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: that's that really means something, right, That's why Reagan first 310 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: came up with it. But the idea of our movement 311 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: and how we communicate and educate and share. We have radio. 312 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: You and I do radio every evening, and so that's 313 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: people while they're dry mostly or you know, they're in 314 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: their podcast years. Then we have television and that's mostly 315 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: when you're at home and you can watch it on 316 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: your TV. But there is in a book, there is 317 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: an opportunity to reduce to writing a thought, a concept, 318 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: the tenets of the movement in this case, which is 319 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: what you set out, and to be able to share 320 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: that with people, and to be able to do that 321 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: in a way that you can say, Jesse, it's your birthday. 322 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: I bought this book from this guy or Billy, it's 323 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: your birthday. I bought this book from this guy. Read it. 324 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: It's great. And they may not be able to get 325 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: them to listen to your your radio show or watch 326 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: your television show, but they will share that there's something 327 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: kind of cool about that. It's another part of the movement. 328 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's like another tool in your tool belt. 329 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: I totally agree. And I've always loved quotes, you know, 330 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: I've just and everyone does, right, who doesn't love a 331 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: great quote? But I have as uneducated and dom as 332 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: I am. I have all these quotes from various authors 333 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: and historical figures burned into my head because they were 334 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: written down. I mean, who doesn't. Who doesn't know the 335 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: John Adams quote? I study war and politics so my 336 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: sons can study mathematics and philosophy. Like how profound and 337 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: freaking awesome is that? And it's a quote that's just 338 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: like yeah, and when it's written, it's more meaningful. And 339 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: just talking about this, think about this a lot. People 340 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: will talk about Rush Limbaugh to this day the goat 341 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. I miss Rush, I miss Rush. 342 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: Rush is the best, and of course he was and 343 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: one of the wild things about it is you could 344 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: listen to Rush Limbaugh for three hours a day and 345 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: you were entertained, and you were informed, and you were 346 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: all those things. All that stuff is true. But when 347 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: I see Rush Limbaugh quotes, people will still put them 348 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: up on Twitter or Facebook or something like that. You'll 349 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: you'll read a Rush Limbaugh quote and you'll think, man, 350 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: that is profound. That is as profound as any conservative 351 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: writing I've ever read in my life. I just didn't. 352 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: I guess it didn't make the same impact on me 353 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: because I was listening to it at the time, or 354 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: maybe I was half listening, you know how it is 355 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: with a radio audience to mostly half listening, and so 356 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: it didn't make an impact on me when I heard it. 357 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: But when I read it, I thought, Man, that is 358 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: as deep and wonderful as anything that you can run 359 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: writing it down. Yes, yes, ranging it. What did you say? 360 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: Because it's been reduced to writing. When you reduce something 361 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 2: to writing, it gives it. It gives it a GRAVI 362 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: toss that having been spoken alone. So you mentioned your mom, 363 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: and you know that's what moms are for? Are they 364 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: cheer for us? So a few months ago I lost 365 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: my mom and a matter of days later you lost 366 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: your dad. But your dad did get to see the 367 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: heartback edition obviously that the paperback is out today. What 368 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 2: was your dad's reaction, because you and your dad have 369 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: a very interesting relationship. 370 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: You know, first he texted the group family text the 371 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: day the book was published, So you know, Simon and Schuster, 372 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: a big shot book publisher. They published the book, and 373 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm grateful they did it, and it becomes this national bestseller. 374 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: And he's not a big Texter, as you can imagine. 375 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: My old man was rough around the edges. And he 376 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: texted the group chat and he said, I can't believe 377 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: he actually wrote a book after failing algebra three times 378 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: in college. So but that was his love language, right, 379 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: And other than that, he would he would tell me 380 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: he was proud of me occasionally, but most of my 381 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: stories from him I would get secondhand because my dad 382 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: was not It wasn't the lovey dovey type with me, 383 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: so I wouldn't get as much from him, but I 384 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: would get all the time from my mom and sister 385 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: that he would brag the strangers, total strangers who didn't 386 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: give a crap about me or the book he's telling them, well, 387 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: my son, Yeah, he wrote a book. It's big, it's 388 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: national bestseller. You should go buy it. He bullied perfect 389 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: strangers into buying the book, completely proud of the whole thing. 390 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: Just didn't tell me that much about it, And that 391 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: was that was the way it was. It was. It 392 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: was something. 393 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 2: You're a marine. You're a tough guy. Not as tough 394 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: as your dad, but tough like your dad, and he's 395 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: what made you tough, very very tough man, uh an 396 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 2: oak in the forest. We struggle as men to cope 397 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: with grief, right, and we're not as expressive as women. 398 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: It's it's a difficult it's a difficult thing. Let's talk 399 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: about that. So you get the news that your dad 400 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: passed and we've had this conversation. You may be harder 401 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 2: than you would have ever imagined. How did that change you? 402 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: What advice do you have for people who go through 403 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: these because we're guys, we don't grieve easily or. 404 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: Well, well, I'll tell you it's a process. It's a 405 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: process I'm still going through, so I certainly don't want 406 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: to pretend like I'm an expert on it. I can 407 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: only tell people what I've gone through I'll have For me, 408 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: it comes in waves, you know, it comes and it goes. 409 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'll have I'll wake up one morning it 410 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: was this morning, and I feel great. I feel great, 411 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: you know, still miss him, but feel great going through 412 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: the workday, even talking about him right now, fine, totally fine. 413 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: So it's not like that triggers it or something like that. 414 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: Talking You're fine, everything's fine. But it could be tomorrow morning. 415 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: I may wake up and I don't feel like it 416 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: out of bed, and the grief will come and it 417 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: will go, and it will come and it will go. 418 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: But the difference between, you know, I'm sure this is 419 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,239 Speaker 1: a big men and women thing, as you just alluded to, 420 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: is the talking about it. I have no problem, you know, 421 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: telling all I'm telling my wife when I'm grieving, but 422 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: oftentimes I don't tell her. She could just tell. She'll 423 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: see it right on my face when I walk home 424 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: or whatever, or walk home, when I walk in the door, 425 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: or when I wake up in the morning. She can 426 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: see it if I'm making breakfast, and then she'll always 427 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: ask me, because this is her way, do you want 428 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: to talk about it? And occasionally I have one or two, 429 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: but for the most part. No. The answer is no, 430 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it. And it's not 431 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: that I'm trying to bottle everything up. Sometimes men have 432 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: to grieve alone. You know, there's nothing I can say. 433 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: There's nothing I can say, There's no way I can 434 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: convey what I'm thinking or feeling, and frankly, I don't 435 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: feel like it. And the best advice I could give 436 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: to people if they're going through any grief is that's okay. 437 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: If you want to talk about it, that's okay. You 438 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: want to gather with friends, that's okay. You want to 439 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: go be in a cabin by yourself in the woods 440 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks while your grief, that's okay. 441 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: Everyone grieves differently in their own way, and it's totally fine. 442 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: I don't pass judgment on how my friends and family 443 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: are grieving. They don't pass it on me. And that's 444 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: the best advice I can give. If I want to 445 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: be alone, I'll be alone. If I want to take 446 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: the day off of work, I will. If I want 447 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: to go home and have an extra whiskey, I might. 448 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: But grieve in your own way. 449 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: So I preach, and I literally preach this almost daily, 450 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: that because I have known of people who lose a 451 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 2: loved one. My brother died three years ago. It was 452 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 2: fifty four years old. It was an active duty police officer. 453 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 2: And I get the call and he's passed, and so 454 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: we didn't get that last conversation, but we literally talked 455 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: every day. And I tell people, you don't know when 456 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: you walk out the door and that door slams behind 457 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: you and you throw that last zinger, hurt them as 458 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: much as you can. That may be the last thing 459 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 2: you ever say to that person. And I've known people 460 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 2: for whom that was the case, and I say, no 461 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: matter what happens to my wife and I have a rule, 462 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: we do not separate without I love you in a 463 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: meaningful way. Because if that's the last thing I ever 464 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 2: say to her, I don't want there to be any 465 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: doubt that I worry that she doubted you. And your 466 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: dad had a special moment there the last time you talked, 467 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 2: which is almost I mean you talk about odds God's 468 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: hand on us. That was sort of a very unique moment. See, 469 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: if you're good with it, I think people should hear 470 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 2: that story. I think they should see that side of you. 471 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: All right, let's see if I can get through this. 472 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: So my dad, Uh, it's it's just a Kelly thing. 473 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm the exact same way. My dad did not stay 474 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: in other people's homes when he would visit out of town. 475 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: The Kellys don't do that. You don't stay in other 476 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: people's homes. Look, I'm not defending it. It was just 477 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: our way. You don't stay in other people's homes. You 478 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: go visit, you have your dinner, you go then if 479 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: you're out of town, you go to a hotel or 480 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: you go back home. You don't stay with other people. 481 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: And this included me, his son. You know, I have 482 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: a we have the two boys. He was the best grandpa. 483 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: Just love those boys. But he would come down then 484 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: you know, we di have dinner and we dive in 485 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: and then he'd go to a hotel with my mom. 486 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: They'd go. He wouldn't stay. So I have a theory. 487 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: I don't know this, but I have a theory that 488 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: my father knew he was. I think a doctor told 489 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: him he's not the type who would pass that along, 490 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: because the last time I saw him, he came down 491 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: to visit us in Texas for a week and he 492 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: stayed with us a week my dad won't stay with 493 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: you for a night. There were instances where he would 494 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: come in, fly in, and they were gonna have to 495 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: come stay at the house to stay with the boys, 496 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: and he would still go to a hotel for one 497 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: night and then get up and come back with us. 498 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: But for this week, he said, I'm staying with you. 499 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: Never happened. He brought down a couple hunting knives for 500 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: the boys. Never happens. My dad doesn't do that sentimental 501 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: stuff really, And we went out fishing. We went fishing, 502 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: went fishing for red fish one morning, Saturday. It was 503 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: Saturday morning. We went fishing for red fish. Got up 504 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: me him, the boys went out fishing. Didn't catch much, 505 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: but had a blast listening to him yell at the boys, 506 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: and everything was great. We finished with that. We go 507 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: eat a big cage and meal. Found this cage in 508 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: place we love to eat. My dad's just like me 509 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: love to eat. Of course I got that from him. 510 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: We made pigs of ourselves and that night it was 511 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: a playoff baseball. Dodgers were playing somebody. Forget who, maybe 512 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: the padre is somebody. Dodgers were playing somebody, and sitting 513 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: there on the couch my dad had, of course, taken 514 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: over my recliner. He comes in and takes over my 515 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: recliner son sitting on the couch, and we're watching the 516 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: baseball games, me and him, and I just turned to 517 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: him and I told him I loved him. Right, That 518 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: was I mean, it was something we said but not often, 519 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: not often, just out of the blue, told him I 520 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: loved him, turns to me, tells me he loves me too. 521 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: That was Saturday night. I hug him, kiss him good night, 522 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: say goodbye. I did not get up in time to 523 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: see him. The next morning, they were leaving super early. 524 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: He got up him, my mom took off. He went 525 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: home that night on Sunday night, told my mom that 526 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: I had told him I loved him and how much 527 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: that meant to him, and then went to bed and 528 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: died in a sleep that night. God is good. 529 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: There is your reminder to each and every person that 530 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: we just don't know when that last moment's going to occur, 531 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: and live your life accordingly. Yeah, I mean, that's as 532 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 2: beautiful as it gets. How much of the person you 533 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 2: are politically, I know you're a miniature version of him 534 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 2: in the way you're grumpy and you're not expressive, but 535 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: you're tough and you're dutiful and all that. How much 536 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 2: of your politics, looking back now, because he's very much 537 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 2: a self made man as you are, how much of 538 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: your politics do you attribute to things you heard him 539 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 2: say or how you watched him live? 540 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: Oh? A lot of it. And what's funny is he 541 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: wasn't political. We were not a political family. I didn't 542 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: grow up political. The only political conversation I ever remember 543 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: remember having with my parents, and I'm kidding, it is 544 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: the only one I think. I was in kindergarten, maybe 545 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: the first grade. George H. W. Bush was running for president, 546 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: and in our class we had a mock election, right, 547 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: and there were Democrats and Republicans, and you could, you know, 548 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: there was just grade school, stupid grade school stuff. And 549 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: I didn't even know what I was or what we were. 550 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: So I went home that night and I asked my parents, 551 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: are we Democrats? Are Republicans? And I remember my dad 552 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: playing his day, turning in and saying, we're Republicans. That 553 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: was it. There was no explanation, you know, there was 554 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: no deep political philosophy around it. But then you know, 555 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: you watch him bust his butt and worked that hard 556 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: work and Jess as construction man. We're a construction family. 557 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: His dad worked construction. That's what he does. You watch 558 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: him bust his butt no matter what. You watch the 559 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: guy go to work, no matter what, cold, hot, busting 560 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: his weran his whole life, hard work, toughness, no whining. 561 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: And you may not have been reading about Ronald Reagan 562 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: and Winston Churchill from your dad, but you grow up 563 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: one day and you figure out, Wow, that was framing 564 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: how you view the world, you know, and his own 565 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: way framing how you view the world will take you 566 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: to where you need to be politically. If your dad's 567 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: a worthless, loser, freeloader and raises you to be that way, 568 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: you're probably going to be a Democrat. If your dad 569 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: believes in hard work and success, in no whining, you're 570 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: going to fall somewhere on the right. Maybe you be 571 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: a libertarian or a nationalist or a conservative or something 572 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: like that, but you're going to be somewhere on the right. 573 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: So there's that and really what I have to politically, 574 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: at least as far as my career goes, to thank 575 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: him for. Beyond the lessons about hard work, it's being 576 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: unapologetic about who you were. He is, my sister said 577 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: at his funeral, and it was so true that she'd 578 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: never met anybody in her life as unapologetically who he 579 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: was as my dad was. And people will say things 580 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: to me like, man, you got that was brave. I 581 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: can't believe you said that. That took a lot of courage, 582 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: which I find to be ridiculous. It's not courageous to 583 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: say things on TV and radio. You know, cops are courageous. 584 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: Troops are courageous. But to whatever degree you believe that, wow, 585 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: that really took guts, Well, it's not that it took guts. 586 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: I really genuinely just don't care if you're angry about it. 587 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: It's not even that I'm happy you're angry or sad 588 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: you're angry. It means nothing to me whatsoever. This is 589 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: how I feel, So this is how I talk, and 590 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: you can take it or leave it. Really genuinely doesn't 591 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: mean anything to me at all. That's the kellyway, and 592 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: that's really one of the main things I learned from 593 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: m I'd say, do you. 594 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: Know who famously said, imagine how much good you can 595 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: do in the world if you stop caring what other 596 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: people think about you. Me, it's it's all my way, 597 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: the only one I expect to be remembered for, if 598 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: you'll keep saying it years after I'm gone. I have 599 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: said to you jokingly over the years that you're dead inside, 600 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: and it is joking part, But I do think there 601 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: is a certain skill set to come back to the 602 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: any anti communist manifesto, there is a skill set to 603 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: taking back our country. Because I hate that people think 604 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: that Trump's going to solve all our problems. He's doing 605 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: his part. We did our part to help them get elected. 606 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: But we're the heads of household, we're the heads of businesses, 607 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: we're the parents of kids that are in schools, were out, 608 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: we're serving on juries. We're going to have to take 609 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: this country back, and part of that means being a 610 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: little dead inside to the emotions of other people. We 611 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: have to be as you. It comes naturally to you 612 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: because you genuinely don't care what other people think. We 613 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: have been taught by mommies and school teachers who are 614 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: mommies at school for our entire lives that we have 615 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: to be nice to everyone. No, no, you've got to 616 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: do the right thing. And that's what I like about 617 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: the book that the message is understand these beastard, Understand 618 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 2: what you're dealing with, Understand who they are, and you 619 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 2: unapologetically call them that. And now once you understand who 620 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: they are, understand we're in a war and how we're 621 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 2: going to win. And I think that is the point. 622 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: That that's the real takeaway from this book that I 623 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: think it has a chance to make a difference with. 624 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: It's why I wrote the action items. Every single chapter 625 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: has a subject with history and everything else, but at 626 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: the back end of it it has action items. Things 627 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: you can do right. It's not just here's a problem. 628 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: That's a problem. That's a problem. It's things you can 629 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: do and the boldness to do something is required. And 630 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: the reason it look it is a great aid that 631 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: I am that way, that I was raised that way. 632 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: It is a great aid when fighting communists, because communists 633 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: are masterful at using your values and your emotions against you. 634 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: It's the you know they're banking on when your liberal 635 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: and Peggy walks into your super Bowl party and she 636 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: starts bragging about her fifteenth abortion and talking about why 637 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: we need all the foreign barbarians in the country. The 638 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: normal reaction from the right would be something similar to 639 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: what you would expect your wife to say. She'd lean in, 640 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: look at you and say, please don't embarrass me. Why 641 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: because she wants to maintain peace. Lets everything calm down, 642 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: let's just walk away from it. But that is how 643 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: the communist wins that please don't embarrass me attitude from us. 644 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: That has turned him into the only aggressor in every 645 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,959 Speaker 1: single social setting, and so he's moved the culture his 646 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: way because liberal and Pegan's the only one screaming no, 647 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: no more, don't embarrass me, no more, be nice about it, 648 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: no more. Roll your eyes and go to the other room. 649 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: No more of that. No, no, no, no no. You put 650 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: that kami hag witch in her place right then and 651 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: there and tell her if she doesn't like it, she 652 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: can pack up her tampons and her cat litter and 653 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: she can get back in her suparu outback and never 654 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: come back in the house again. Start treating the communists 655 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: like the rat, demon vermin that he is, and stop 656 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: treating him like just some kind of lost, naive child 657 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: who will slowly come around if you're just kind enough 658 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: to That does not work with communists. The religious sellings. 659 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: They only understand fear and pain, and so you have 660 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: to be the one to give that to them. 661 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 2: You said earlier, know your enemy, and I think what 662 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 2: you do a great job in the book at is 663 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 2: explaining who these people are and understanding you can't wait 664 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: on them to stop beating you. You've got to fight back. 665 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 2: You can't roll over and hope they stop what they're doing. 666 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 2: And I love that as part of it, because we 667 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: have what I call the nice neighbor problem. We all 668 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 2: want to be the nice neighbor, no matter how loud 669 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 2: the music gets, the gunshots get, the pit bull coming on. 670 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: I mean, at some point you have to push back 671 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: and say enough is enough. And that's probably my favorite 672 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: part is you explaining, and you kind of alluded to 673 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 2: it there that the communist is not things, aren't just 674 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 2: random people who happen to share some ideas In both 675 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 2: the same way, this is a mindset which is a 676 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: replacement for religion. They are ze tell us they are committed, 677 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: and when you understand what you're up against them, they're 678 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: fewer of them, but that's why they win so often. 679 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the problem is when it comes to you know, 680 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: people love that old saying it takes two to tango. 681 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: But that is not the case when it comes to war, 682 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: whether that be actual kinetic war or cultural wars or 683 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: political wars, it only takes one side. And you're liberal 684 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: and Peggy she believes she's a warrior, and she believes 685 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: she's at war. So no matter what you think about that, 686 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: you're at war. She has already declared war. She is 687 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 1: fighting a war. She's fighting it as if it's a 688 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: war that she must win. And so whether or not 689 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: you like that or agree with that means nothing whatsoever. 690 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: One side has decided there's going to be a war, 691 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: so now you have to fight it as if it 692 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: is a war, and she fights it as if she 693 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: intends to win it all in all the time. And 694 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: that's something I try to get through to people in 695 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: the book, is we can't be as lase a fair 696 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: about power as we always have been. Sure, we'll show 697 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: up and vote for Donald Trump once every four years, 698 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: but then local school board election. I'm too busy. I 699 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: got soccer practice tonight. I can't be bothered with this. 700 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: I can't be bothered with that. That's exactly why you 701 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: have these red cities and red areas that are run 702 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: by vicious little commie monsters putting trannies in the public 703 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: library to shake his penis in front of your child 704 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: because you abstain from power, and liberal Peggy did not. 705 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: She's not abstaining from anything. She drives around like a 706 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: freaking predator looking for choke points of power to seize. 707 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: And we have to understand they're around us. They're seizing 708 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: these choke points, and we have to take them back. 709 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 2: Your viewers are watching you mostly talk about national issues. 710 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: The President Trump the other day signed a bill that 711 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: said no more boys in women's sports. Turns out eighty percentage. Technically, 712 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 2: seventy nine percent of Americans do not want boys in 713 00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 2: girls of sports. What we're talking about now are local fan, family, 714 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 2: community issues, not national issues. We talked to national issues 715 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 2: on national broadcast. But at the end of the day, 716 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,959 Speaker 2: and I will applaud you for this, you have said 717 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 2: get and again, the most important election that you will 718 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 2: participate in is not presidential. It is your local school board. 719 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 2: You should participate all and an understanding that the communist 720 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 2: is most active where the rubber hits a road, in 721 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 2: the local school at the local city government. And I 722 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 2: think that that is another important thing for those who 723 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 2: haven't read the book. That's a point you make again 724 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: and again. Get involved locally, not just where you see 725 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 2: the national stories. 726 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: Every single person has the ability and should get involved 727 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: in some way. If you are not doing any kind 728 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: of political activism, you are flat out wrong. And that 729 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you have to run for Congress or standard 730 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: or whatever. I went to I live in an extremely 731 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: read area of Texas, and I went to a school 732 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: board meeting. This is a few months back. It was 733 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,479 Speaker 1: a school board forum. There were five school board seats. 734 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: We're talking about control of the school board. And I 735 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: show up probably one hundred and fifty two hundred people 736 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: there this thing, and I'm gabbing with one of the 737 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: local elected leaders in the back run of the Republicans. 738 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: He knows who I am, and we're there. I'm asking 739 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: him about the demographics of the crowd or their political 740 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: leadings of the crowd, and he starts laughing and he said, 741 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: it's a school board meeting. Probably ninety five percent Democrats. Here. 742 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: We are blood red area, MAGA flags everywhere. Trump is 743 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: Trump that I love Trump, Go America, woo. But the 744 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: school board that's going to determine whether Aiden, Jaden, and 745 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: Braden learn that they're gay. In the fifth grade. That 746 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: school board completely occupied by commis, and it's commedi's they're 747 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: figuring out which commedy they want on the school board 748 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: while we sit at home, church, soccer work, ignoring the 749 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: real choke points of power and that we cannot do anymore. 750 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,720 Speaker 1: We have to go take back everything legally and locally. 751 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 2: Well. And that's the point of the anti Communist Manifesto. 752 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 2: That's what I take away from it is understanding how 753 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 2: committed these people are. I really still think, and that's 754 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 2: why I hope people will read the book. I really 755 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 2: still think people are underestimating who these people are. Oh 756 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 2: my sister were just a little different. No, No, you 757 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 2: have to understand. You know, I'm a student of the 758 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 2: Civil War, and I know that's of all the military 759 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 2: activity you follow, it's probably not your top one. It 760 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 2: is for me, and I am in constant shocked at 761 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 2: how the Confederate forces, underfed, undertrained, undermanned were able to 762 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 2: fight so efficiently effectively against the Union army that had 763 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 2: better food, food, weaponry, training, the whole thing. Because the 764 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 2: Southern folks were much more committed. It wasn't about slavery. 765 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 2: It was about protecting their own community. And we can 766 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 2: argue over that all day, but you study these things 767 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 2: and it's like in Jericho in the Bible, they are 768 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 2: fighting with just a viciousness, and it mattered on the battlefield. 769 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 2: These communists in our it might be our sister in law, 770 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,919 Speaker 2: it might be our kids teacher. They're fighting with a viciousness. 771 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 2: And you point that out. I think too few people 772 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 2: that do what we do, either understand it or are 773 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 2: willing to say it in that way. 774 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: Well, when you say it, when you allow your mind 775 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: to go there, then what you do is you've accepted 776 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: the fact that you're at war. And that's the that's 777 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: the real hold up for most people. They don't want 778 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: to live their life like that. They don't want to 779 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: live in constant conflict. They don't want to have to 780 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: get involved even locally. They don't want to have to 781 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: get screamed at. They don't want to have to they 782 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: don't want to have to do these things. People in 783 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,760 Speaker 1: America want to just and this is a very natural 784 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: human thing. I'm not dogging on Americans. We just want 785 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: to exist. Can't I just go to work. Why do 786 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: you have to? This stuff shouldn't even be in school? 787 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: Why do I have to fight this stuff in school? 788 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 1: What I shouldn't have to? We shouldn't. I shouldn't have. 789 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: It's a lot of that I shouldn't have to. I should. Yeah, 790 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have to. But we sat back, laid back 791 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: for so long. We let the demons take over everything. Well, 792 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: now you have to. It's not an option to not 793 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 1: be involved, but the hesitancy to acknowledge that the pink 794 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: haired freak in your child's second grade class with the 795 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter flag up there, it's hard to just 796 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: accept that that is actually a child predator who is 797 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: teaching your child for the express purpose of shattering your 798 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: child and breaking them away from you. That's a fact, Jesse. 799 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 2: Since I'm runing the show today, your folks would tell 800 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 2: me we're out of time. I appreciate you, my man. 801 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 2: I love the book. Everybody buy it. It's out in 802 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 2: paperback today. I'm very proud of your woman. 803 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, my brother, as always, thank you for everything. 804 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: We'll be back. Well. That was my friend and mentor, 805 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: Michael Barrier. As you can tell, we've known each other 806 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: for quite sometime and look, you know what this special was. 807 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 1: This is me telling you about the book. Go by it. 808 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: If you can't afford it, I've realized that's the case, 809 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: talk to a friend, see if a friend has it. 810 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: Go down to your local library and request they get it. 811 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 1: We've had many people across the country in the last 812 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 1: year to do that. They've gone down basically demanded their 813 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: library order it. So everyone is in a different financial situation. 814 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,959 Speaker 1: But I think you'll enjoy it. I think your friends 815 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: will enjoy it. Even kids can enjoy it. You will laugh, 816 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: you will learn. Jesse kellybook dot com is where you 817 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: go buy it. If you want to go buy it there, 818 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: Go buy the paperback, enjoy