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Speaker 2: What is it about special teams coaches and together get

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I I I think, uh, you know, we gotta

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Speaker 1: but I feel it's it's we're all kind of the

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Speaker 2: What makes out Jack Gibbons an effective.

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Speaker 1: Special teams player? Extremely smart? I mean he is, like

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Speaker 1: He always tells me things that I didn't see it

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Speaker 2: Do you ever going back to when you interviewed in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've always loved Marcus from when he

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Speaker 1: And because the players believe in him, it doesn't really

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Speaker 2: He seems like a lot of returners who are really

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Speaker 2: Could you guys handle somebody maybe the uncertainty of.

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Speaker 1: At the punch of the position, say that more time?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, How do you guys handle maybe some of the uncertainty.

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Speaker 1: Of the punch of positions that they have to do well.

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Speaker 1: just curious to be could a buffle going to buffle

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Speaker 1: a little nighttime game? No, Marcus has that experience play

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Speaker 1: general way, the pots up teacher like, Okay, these are

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Speaker 1: what you're gonna face. Fine, and how you get people

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