WEBVTT - Back to Back to the Future II, Part Two

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>forward Thinking, Welcome to forward Thinking. Well podcasts that looks

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<v Speaker 1>of the future and says please don't drive eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be late again. I'm Jonathan Strickland,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Lauren, and I'm Joe McCormick. And that's the power

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<v Speaker 1>of love. Well, it's actually not the power of love,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's it's another Huey Lewis in the News song

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<v Speaker 1>that also came from the Back to the Future soundtrack.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's the first time I've ever quoted the

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<v Speaker 1>same song twice in in consecutive episodes. Hey guys, So

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing our second part of our Back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Future Part two extravaganza. Wait say that title again? What

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<v Speaker 1>is it? Is it part two of our Back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Future Part to two part episode about I called

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<v Speaker 1>it back to Back to the Future to part two.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, So we're doing a second episode about back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Future because the the the year that they

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<v Speaker 1>go forward to and Back to the Future Part two

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<v Speaker 1>is t which and it turns out that's this year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the year that we're recording this. Maybe if you are

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<v Speaker 1>from the future and listening to past episodes of forward

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<v Speaker 1>digging and just giggling up your sleeve. It's the past,

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<v Speaker 1>but right now it's the present. Man, time is hard

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<v Speaker 1>or not quite the present yet because it occurs in October. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're recording this in January, so there's still time for

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<v Speaker 1>all of this to come true. So if you have

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<v Speaker 1>not listened to our first episode about the technology of

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<v Speaker 1>Back to the Future Part two and where the reality

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<v Speaker 1>stacks up against the movie, you should go back check

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<v Speaker 1>out part one and then come to this MP three

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<v Speaker 1>right now, right, and that will make that intro we

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<v Speaker 1>had seemed coherent by comparison apparent. Well, last time we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about stuff that appears in the Back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Future universe like flying cars, uh, self lacing shoes, adjusting jackets,

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<v Speaker 1>three second hydrator, ovens, that a big steamy pizza. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>digital binoculars. Oh what else where do they have? Nest thermostats? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So we talked a lot about that, digital windows, that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, telescoping self extending baseball bad most important

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<v Speaker 1>piece of technology in the future according to Joe obviously. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but last time we did not talk about the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that everybody had to be waiting for. So we

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<v Speaker 1>thought we'd do that first in the second part here,

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<v Speaker 1>which is hoverboards, yeah by Mattel in the in the film,

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<v Speaker 1>at least the one that Marty McFly flies on is Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>To be a few different brands, some marketed towards towards

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<v Speaker 1>older kids, some are marketed towards thugs. Yeah, you got

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<v Speaker 1>the thug thug market. It's an a couple of different

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<v Speaker 1>varieties that can either be powered or nonpowered. I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't work on water unless you got power. Very canny

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<v Speaker 1>impersonation and who I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I I

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<v Speaker 1>did watch this entire movie almost um, just last night,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm an expert right now, right, okay, Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>hoverboard in Back to the Future Part two is basically

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<v Speaker 1>a skateboard without wheels that never touches the ground. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's again. It's meant to evoke the great skateboard chase

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<v Speaker 1>sequence from the first film. So you know, that is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of one of those instances of hey, you remember

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<v Speaker 1>how much you like this thing when we did in

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<v Speaker 1>that other movie. Well, now we're doing it again, so

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like it's kind of clever actually actually like

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<v Speaker 1>it itself. I actually like it kind of adorable. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I sound like I'm being dismissive, but trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>in this case it works. And movies like Anchorman too,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not so much, but in this it works great. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a theme that's throughout all the Back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Future movies exactly, Lauren, the whole idea of history

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<v Speaker 1>repeating itself. Well, so they imagine this technology. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>floating skateboard more or less. Yea, do we actually have

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that now that it's and I know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna say, You're gonna say, oh yes, because I

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<v Speaker 1>saw that video on YouTube and it even had it

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<v Speaker 1>even had Christopher Lloyd, who is obviously an expert on

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<v Speaker 1>the future, and Tony Hawk, who's obviously an expert on

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<v Speaker 1>standing on on pieces of wood that move around. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>This product is supposedly made by a company called hover,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a capital h UV and then a little R.

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<v Speaker 1>And the video showed lots of celebrities getting on these hoverboards,

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<v Speaker 1>floating up off of a parking lot and then zooming around.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye and and Christopher Lloyd being kind of doc brownish

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<v Speaker 1>about the whole thing, although not not looking like Doc Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Christopher Lloyd. Wasn't him playing the character? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So um, but it was. You know again, it was

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<v Speaker 1>really well produced video, and it fooled I guess some people.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously, the knee jerk reaction for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people was this has got to be fake. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I still see people arguing about it, saying that it

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<v Speaker 1>was real. Right, And then there was a video that

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Hawk made later where he essentially apologized for the

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<v Speaker 1>hover videos. So we just thought it would a funny joke.

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<v Speaker 1>We never thought anyone was going to take it seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm thinking, like that's I I have a hard

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<v Speaker 1>time believing that no one on that group was hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that folks would take it seriously. I mean, when Back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Future two came out, there was a rumor

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<v Speaker 1>specifically created and uh and and distributed that the hoverboard

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<v Speaker 1>technology really did work, and that was just the toy

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<v Speaker 1>companies that were worried about potential lawsuits that were holding

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<v Speaker 1>it back from ever hitting the market. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>back in when this rumor broke, and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>rumor that was supported by Zamacha Zamachi and the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the film production company. I thought it was hilarious,

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<v Speaker 1>but obviously that was a rumor. Uh, this was an

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<v Speaker 1>orchestra at hoax. It was a joke video. It was

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<v Speaker 1>made by Funny or Die, so that should tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that there were people when Tony Hawk did

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<v Speaker 1>his video saying, hey, it was all a joke who

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<v Speaker 1>immediately said, oh, no, it was real, and now the

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<v Speaker 1>companies are backing off because it's too dangerous cover up. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the whole conspiracy theory thing, right, like any evidence

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<v Speaker 1>to the contrary is manufactured. They were also I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people who saw the original video but

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<v Speaker 1>just weren't aware there was ever a disclaimer, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you watch the one where Tony Hawk

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<v Speaker 1>is actually quote unquote apologizing, it has behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>footage of folks wearing harnesses that are attached to cables

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<v Speaker 1>that are are keeping them suspended, and then they just

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<v Speaker 1>keyed the cables out, the wires, the cable they keyed

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<v Speaker 1>them all out later so that they didn't show up

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<v Speaker 1>on screen. Um, so it's not a real thing. However,

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<v Speaker 1>that being said, there is a real hoverboard, but there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of qualifiers who have to add to

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, what a real hoverboard? Yeah, hindo hoverboards,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe you. At a Kickstarter, their goal was

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<v Speaker 1>two dollars. They raised half a million, so they definitely

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<v Speaker 1>hit their people are excited about hoverboards, you guys, keeping

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<v Speaker 1>in mind that these are hoverboards that you would only

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<v Speaker 1>be able to use in very specific circumstances and nothing

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<v Speaker 1>outside of them. You couldn't run them on water unless

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<v Speaker 1>you have power. Yeah, you couldn't run them on concrete

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<v Speaker 1>or wood or grass or they're using electromagnetic repulsion. So

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about electro magnets a lot and how you know,

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<v Speaker 1>creating magnetic fields is a really powerful thing for lots

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<v Speaker 1>of things. So it's using essentially the same principles as

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<v Speaker 1>a maglev train. Uh. And it works on metallic but

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<v Speaker 1>non ferrous surfaces, so things like copper and aluminum, which

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<v Speaker 1>are are non faires. If it were on iron, then

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<v Speaker 1>what would happen is once you started the electro magnets,

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<v Speaker 1>they're becoming a magnetic field would be associated with the

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<v Speaker 1>iron as well, which would be an aligned with the device,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would end up having a hoverboard that's locked

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<v Speaker 1>to the surface that's on as opposed to one that's

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<v Speaker 1>floating above it. Uh. Non fairest materials is what it

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<v Speaker 1>allows it to have this kind of um repulsion aspect

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<v Speaker 1>and be able to to float above it. Uh. I

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<v Speaker 1>read some reports of various folks, like people from Engadget

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<v Speaker 1>who got to try this out or wired. They said

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<v Speaker 1>it was very, uh, disorienting and scary because you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>on something where you're like, I don't want to fall off.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, because you're limited to those surfaces, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>something that you could just purchase and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ride home unless the streets are paid with copper where

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<v Speaker 1>you live, so you you know. I could see this

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<v Speaker 1>being used for something like an attraction at a park

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<v Speaker 1>where they've set up a specific area with like an

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<v Speaker 1>aluminum sheet floor where you can, you know, after signing

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<v Speaker 1>a waiver, go on one of these. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's going to be something that is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be uh you know, Mattel is not gonna be marketing

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<v Speaker 1>this to little girls, not within the next nine months. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I hate to be a downer, but I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like this almost doesn't count because of the special

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<v Speaker 1>circumstances that are required, like in this case, you might

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<v Speaker 1>as well just take a snowboard into a vertical wind tunnel. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so indoor skydiving title, Yeah, I mean, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. It's it's similar in spirit to what we

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<v Speaker 1>saw in the movie, but obviously the limitations mean that

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<v Speaker 1>it's nothing like the experience that you saw in the film.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you couldn't ride this over any surface besides

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<v Speaker 1>water unless you have power. Uh, it wouldn't do any

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<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't do any good. The power, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>as I recall, it's like a trio of thrusters that

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<v Speaker 1>are on the back of of griffs hoverboard. It's got

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<v Speaker 1>like a little almost like little jet engines on the

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<v Speaker 1>very back of it, and that's what the power is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what allows it to have forward propulsion, even over water.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, yeah, doesn't doesn't quite fit, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>real big bummer. I mean, the hoverboard was one of

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<v Speaker 1>those iconic pieces of technology shown off in the film

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<v Speaker 1>that people really um got attached to. They thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was super cool. You know, personally, I don't feel all

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<v Speaker 1>that robbed of magic. I think actual skateboarding is difficult enough. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine not injuring myself on a hubboard. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to be an extra few inches off

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<v Speaker 1>the ground when I fall terribly skateboard, I can't time

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<v Speaker 1>I get on it. I can't do a skateboard, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't can't do wakeboards. Anything that requires balance on top

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<v Speaker 1>of the board, forget it. Um Um, I might as

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<v Speaker 1>well just go ahead and throw myself at the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh yeah, that but that's that's one we definitely

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<v Speaker 1>needed to cover, and we got that one out all

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<v Speaker 1>the way. But there's still a lot of other technologies

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<v Speaker 1>that appear in that film. You know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>last time we ever got around to communication technology. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't really. We mentioned some things where you could

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<v Speaker 1>consume content, but we didn't talk about ones where you

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<v Speaker 1>could actually communicate with people. Ah yeah, And and video

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<v Speaker 1>calls play a pretty big role in the plot line,

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<v Speaker 1>such as it is if you want to be snarky

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<v Speaker 1>about it, um because yeah, yeah, so so they have

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<v Speaker 1>these huge screen TVs that can I guess either function

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<v Speaker 1>or double as as video call centers. Yeah, there don't

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<v Speaker 1>appear to be any cameras attached, but that's okay. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's worked into the bezel. Sure, all right, I okay,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd say we have this. I don't think anybody really

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<v Speaker 1>likes it all that much. Some people do, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's I think it's in very specific use cases,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't think there are that many people who

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<v Speaker 1>use this as their regular means of communication with other people. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's certainly not. If you want to call up your

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<v Speaker 1>coworker who happens to be flee Um. Yeah, and because

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<v Speaker 1>because that dude is totally flee Um and just chat

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<v Speaker 1>with him about something illegal, You're you're not necessarily going

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<v Speaker 1>to go straight to a voice to to to a

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<v Speaker 1>video call. I mean you might. You might skype with

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<v Speaker 1>a significant other who's who's on a trip far away,

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<v Speaker 1>far away from you, writer, or with family members, or

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<v Speaker 1>you might you might even face time. If you're perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>of a younger generation than anyone sitting in the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>room right now, you might. You might use FaceTime or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that for your daily business and and within work,

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<v Speaker 1>you might use it for something like calling into a

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<v Speaker 1>meeting or in the podcast world, we do it all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, or podcasts where you know you have a

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<v Speaker 1>guest host, especially if it's a video podcast. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>might have multiple people calling in a video conferencing, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that it's unusual in the year two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and fifteen, although I don't Again, I don't think of

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<v Speaker 1>that as the primary means of community. Heck, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even think of calls as being the primary means of

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<v Speaker 1>communication these days. Now it's all text and and things

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<v Speaker 1>of that nature. I don't know that many people who

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<v Speaker 1>actually enjoy talking on the phone anymore. I enjoy talking

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone. I wouldn't want people to see me

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<v Speaker 1>while I'm on the phone. Again, it's a very specific

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<v Speaker 1>use case scenarios that I want anyone to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to look at my hideous visage. I don't think of

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<v Speaker 1>myself as particularly misanthropic, but I very rarely use my

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<v Speaker 1>phone as a phone. Well, phones are interesting if you

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<v Speaker 1>have friends, you want to talk to those. I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>about friends, thank you, I've been working on. Although interesting

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<v Speaker 1>thing also about the phone system in the movie is

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<v Speaker 1>that UM it will along the bottom of the screen,

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<v Speaker 1>like like where a newscast might have a little a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of rolling information. UM it will give you

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<v Speaker 1>the callers identification, their their job, their age, their address,

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<v Speaker 1>UM their favorite drinks and hobbies, uh, their family members,

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<v Speaker 1>names and ages, the sports that they play, their political affiliations,

0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.320
<v Speaker 1>their food dislikes. So this is like, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>when you watch a movie where you see a high

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<v Speaker 1>powered executive and they're about to make a phone call

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<v Speaker 1>on their assistant is giving them the skinny on whoever

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to talk to, like Okay, he's got two

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<v Speaker 1>daughters there, blah blah blah. So that that you can

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<v Speaker 1>have that that that manufactured personal interaction that actually makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>It sort of combines calls with like the about page

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<v Speaker 1>of a social media program. H right, totally yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like like Facebook is a little bit of what

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<v Speaker 1>it reminded me of. The interesting thing here is that

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<v Speaker 1>I can easily imagine a video calling up that incorporates

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of stuff by scraping information from some other source.

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<v Speaker 1>Either you create a profile in the app itself, which

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<v Speaker 1>just makes it easy because then it just refers to itself,

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<v Speaker 1>or it scrapes publicly available information off of social media

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<v Speaker 1>profiles or even Google searches that kind of thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>it would populate fields so that you would have this information.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen kind of mock ups of apps like this

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<v Speaker 1>for augmented reality where you know you've seen like the

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<v Speaker 1>smart glasses where a person is looking in a room

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<v Speaker 1>and people's names and they're like little Twitter handles and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff are popping up over their heads. Gives you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of information and obviously that brings up questions

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<v Speaker 1>about privacy. It brings up you know, what's appropriate. What

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<v Speaker 1>do we want to make public? Is it is it

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<v Speaker 1>acceptable if we have chosen to make this information public

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<v Speaker 1>that people have easy access to it, or is the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that that access becomes so easy mean that we

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<v Speaker 1>no longer care that we publicly shared it. We want

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<v Speaker 1>there to be a limitation. These questions were still answering.

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<v Speaker 1>Places like Europe are answering it through litigation where they

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<v Speaker 1>they there's the story in two thousand and fourteen where

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<v Speaker 1>Google was taken to task and said that there needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be this right to be forgotten where people who

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<v Speaker 1>want to have certain things in their past kind of

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<v Speaker 1>expunged from Google so that something they did, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some stupid thing they did maybe fifteen years ago, or

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<v Speaker 1>something that they got involved in in their past that

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<v Speaker 1>no longer has any relevance in their their current lives

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<v Speaker 1>gets taken out of search results because they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>themselves associated with that. Obviously, that raises a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>questions and a lot of problems. And UM, all this

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<v Speaker 1>being said, you know, we haven't seen a specific application

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I know. That mirrors what we saw

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<v Speaker 1>in Back to the Future too, but it's it's totally

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<v Speaker 1>within the realm of possibility. I don't I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>anything about it that makes it, you know, even even

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to pull off. A way in which they we

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<v Speaker 1>talked a few times in the previous episode about ways

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<v Speaker 1>in which this movie did not quite go far enough

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<v Speaker 1>in its imagining of the future. And um, the way

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<v Speaker 1>that this phone system operates within a household is one

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<v Speaker 1>of those ways, because it's a it's a housewide phone

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<v Speaker 1>system that can be accessed from like individual visors, but

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<v Speaker 1>everyone has a single phone number within the family unit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one phone for the household. So they imagined that

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<v Speaker 1>that people that, like the kids, could each have a

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<v Speaker 1>visor that they could check and see who's calling and

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<v Speaker 1>take the calls supposedly on this little headset of theirs. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's just one household line. They couldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>all the way to individual cell phones, right, yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting. I mean I can totally see why they

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<v Speaker 1>went with that. Yeah. Of course, in the late eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>I had my own phone number, but I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>my own phone line. The number also went through the

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<v Speaker 1>same phone line as the only one. It's just that

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<v Speaker 1>it had a different ring to it, so that if

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<v Speaker 1>that ring was going off, my parents knew, oh that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of Jonathan's friends. I'm not even gonna bother picking

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<v Speaker 1>it up. Um, and uh, that was the only thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But otherwise it was you know, if I picked up

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<v Speaker 1>the phone, I was, I had the family line was active,

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<v Speaker 1>so uh, you know, I can see that they were

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<v Speaker 1>just building on what was already common at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't anticipate a world where we would all have

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<v Speaker 1>devices that have their own dedicated communication channels. Now, surely

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<v Speaker 1>the movie understood that Facts wasn't gonna last forever, right, No, no, what,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a facts machine in every single room in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you given the closet, and when you get

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<v Speaker 1>that and when you get fired, it prints to all

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Well, I think that that boss was just

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<v Speaker 1>not a nice person, but but yeah, it was. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that there was a fact was really pretty

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<v Speaker 1>amusing because again, the facts is one of those pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of technology that has largely been supplanted by digital tech,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, stuff digital displays and and PDFs, that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. We still see facts is. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>are different companies and specifically government organizations that require you

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<v Speaker 1>to facts in documents as opposed to scanning an email.

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<v Speaker 1>I have facts to shocking number of documents in the

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<v Speaker 1>past year or so, like a shocking number, and by

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<v Speaker 1>that I mean like more than three. But that's stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>considering that we're living in an era where you could

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<v Speaker 1>literally take a picture of it with my phone and

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<v Speaker 1>text to somewhere. They're also depending upon the depending upon

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<v Speaker 1>the document you're talking about. If you already have it

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<v Speaker 1>in digital format, there are a ton of programs that

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<v Speaker 1>already automatically convert that into PDF format, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>could send it as a PDF where you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about people making changes to it. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just weird to have a world where that facts

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<v Speaker 1>is considered still a viable and necessary piece of technology.

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<v Speaker 1>According to nineteen nine, that was incredibly incredibly important, yea,

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<v Speaker 1>so important that you needed to have like the aready

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<v Speaker 1>have them in your Yes? Yeah, I guess if I

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<v Speaker 1>ever ran low on toilet paper, you know, pretty handy. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I found it was massively wasteful as printing multiple copies

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<v Speaker 1>the same message, not even different messages to different rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to crush a man in his dreams, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to really go all out. Yeah. Well, speaking of crushing,

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<v Speaker 1>are there any good crushing or you know, really any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of robots in the home of Back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Future Part two? Well, there there was. It wasn't It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't pictured directly, but there was definitely. Um these these

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<v Speaker 1>like trash bag sized blocks of trash kind of hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out around a local dumpster. So I thought that that

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting because it implies that within every home there's

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<v Speaker 1>probably some kind of like large scale trash compactor, right

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<v Speaker 1>that you're using to create these bundles of trash. Why

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<v Speaker 1>on earth would you need that unless you're generating ridicu

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<v Speaker 1>hellosus amounts of trash. Because they were generating ridiculous amounts

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<v Speaker 1>of trash, that's true. Yeah, the fax machine prints out

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<v Speaker 1>a duplicate of every single message in every room of

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<v Speaker 1>the house. You're probably creating like three pounds of paper

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<v Speaker 1>waste every hour probably Yeah. Um, there were also roving

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<v Speaker 1>around the city, these robotic trash cans, these kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like our two D two looking things. Yeah, that would

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just willy nilly sort of sort of rove

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<v Speaker 1>around waiting to accept your refuse and we've you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a great example of this as a concept. It

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<v Speaker 1>was actually used in a in a commercial. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>meant to be like an actual product. It was more

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<v Speaker 1>of a gimmick for a TV commercial. A robotic trash

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<v Speaker 1>can that used a robotic chassis with wheels at three

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<v Speaker 1>wheels that could spin kind of like casters on a

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<v Speaker 1>on a on a chair. They could spin into any direction,

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<v Speaker 1>so it could the robot could quickly maneuver in any

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<v Speaker 1>given direction at a moment's notice. Uh, moved really really fast.

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<v Speaker 1>On top of that chassis was mounted a trash can

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<v Speaker 1>like a regular little waste paper beIN so that it

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<v Speaker 1>had just enough clearance from the floor so it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>scrape around and the wheels could turn freely. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it was had a processor in it that was connected

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<v Speaker 1>wirelessly to a connect sensor, a Microsoft Connect sensor, and

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<v Speaker 1>the way it worked was that if you tossed a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of paper, the connect sensor would detect, it would

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<v Speaker 1>project out the pathway of that piece of paper, send

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<v Speaker 1>a command to the robot to intercept that piece of paper.

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<v Speaker 1>The robot would move into place and then catch it

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<v Speaker 1>as it hit before it could hit the ground. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was used in this commercial just as a little

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<v Speaker 1>gimmick where someone is typing on a typewriter, which already

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, was already anachronistic, but typing on a typewriter,

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<v Speaker 1>and then, like the classic, pull the sheet out, crumple

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<v Speaker 1>it up, through it behind you, and this happens three

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<v Speaker 1>or four times, and then the person typing on the

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<v Speaker 1>typewriter it gets a stick of gum or something whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the commercial was actually selling. And then the next time

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<v Speaker 1>this doesn't make the person better at writing. Apparently all

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<v Speaker 1>it does is make make the world magical around them,

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<v Speaker 1>because then the next piece of paper, they again pull

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<v Speaker 1>it up, they crumple it up, toss it behind them,

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<v Speaker 1>and the trash can moves and catches the piece of paper.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought it was funny. I'm like, well, if

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<v Speaker 1>I were making a commercial where someone was chewing gum

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<v Speaker 1>while while failing over and over to write whatever they

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to write. I'd have them succeed in writing,

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<v Speaker 1>not failing again. But now the trash can catches their garbage,

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<v Speaker 1>makes fire more convenience. I guess a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>role of gum in human life. Yeah, but at any rate, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a great video and I'll make sure to share

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<v Speaker 1>it on social when we when we put this podcast up.

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<v Speaker 1>That shows the both the commercial and the behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes of how it was done. Although it's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>in English, but it is. It does show you, like

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<v Speaker 1>the the actual design process where I mean they machined

0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 1>parts to make this robotic trash can a possibility. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>it really just cool about being able to use a

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<v Speaker 1>connect to do path prediction. Yeah, I thought that was

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 1>really interesting. So um yeah. Other other robots that they

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<v Speaker 1>feature in the movie include um in the eighties cafe

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 1>that they go to, that's that's kind of partially a

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 1>throwback to the nineteen eighties and partially the way that

0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 1>nostalgia cafes work. Nothing like what the eighties was like

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<v Speaker 1>at all, kind of like if you go to a

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifties diner, it's not really like the nineteen fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like option way less sexism and racism. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty great. Well, I think a lot of if you

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<v Speaker 1>go to a nineteen fifties diner, it's taking you back

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<v Speaker 1>to what people in the seventies thought in the nineteen

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 1>fifties were like, it's like happy days, not like the

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<v Speaker 1>real nineties shirt sure, sure, and and all of the

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 1>technology that they use in those fifties cafes are updated technologies. Similarly,

0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 1>in this eighties cafe, they have these robotic m video

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 1>servers like wait waiters and waitresses. Um, you can be

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>served by Michael Jackson or by Battling Ronald Reagan and Ayatola.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, because because they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're you know, asking you what you want and

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the day's specials, and you know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>them is like you should have the bean dip, and

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 1>the others like, no, get the chicken tenders, and then

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:28.239
<v Speaker 1>they like fight a lot, so which I'm not, but uh,

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's one of those things where where the all

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:36.359
<v Speaker 1>the depictions of the various personalities are put through what

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>I like to think of as the max headroom filter. Yeah. Yeah,

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 1>that was very much what they were, like this kind

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 1>of shoddy digital representation of a person that would occasionally, um,

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the playback of their dialogue would kind of skip like

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>a record, basically entirely unlike digital representations of things skip right.

0:25:57.359 --> 0:25:59.200
<v Speaker 1>That would mean that you would have to program in

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 1>either the or there'll be some terrible buffering problem. But

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>either way you're just wouldn't make you repeat, it would

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 1>just make you pause. Yeah, it's it's it's a weird

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:14.120
<v Speaker 1>thing a rate um. Yeah. So so that's that's pretty cool. Yeah,

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 1>one piece of technology we kind of kind of jumped over,

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:19.919
<v Speaker 1>but it's still one that I wanted to mention really quickly.

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Is that Lauren You mentioned that mentioned that in the

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 1>house people could get calls on glasses. We do have

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 1>video glasses. I mean they're not great, but at least

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 1>none of the ones I've tried have been really great.

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 1>But that's that's one of those pieces of technology that,

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>again you can get. It's not it's like a lot

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:41.880
<v Speaker 1>of the ones word mentioning. It's not something that everybody

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:44.640
<v Speaker 1>has their hands on, but there are examples out there

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 1>to varying degrees of success. Some of them are more

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 1>video screens, some of them are essentially a replacement for

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 1>something like a mobile device. Most of them connect to

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:58.400
<v Speaker 1>a mobile device, so really it's an extension of a smartphone.

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 1>But it's one of those things where we do actually

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>have them, but it's not in the same implementation as

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 1>in the film. But anyway, all right, so we've done robots,

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 1>we've done communication, we've talked about the importance of fax machines.

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's move on to health, because we've talked about

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these these other areas, we haven't really

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:23.640
<v Speaker 1>focused on the health side. Now. Granted again I don't

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 1>remember much about health and Back to the Future part two. Okay,

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Early on in the film, UM, Christopher Lloyd's character explains

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 1>to Marty that that he has been to a rejuvenation

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>clinic and that Marty should not be alarmed because he

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>will look very different when he peels off this mask

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 1>that he is wearing, and he looks exactly the same,

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of the idea, suddenly looks younger. Allow

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.680
<v Speaker 1>me to explain to you the jokes in this movie

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:53.439
<v Speaker 1>which you have probably seen, um. But but so, this

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>rejuvenation clinic, he says, can remove wrinkles, repair your hair,

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 1>change out your blood, what's the transfusion between friends and

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>and thus add another like forty years to your life

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 1>and also maybe replace your colon. I'm not I don't know.

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>He didn't really specify. No, here's the thing. The fact

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:20.399
<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't look significantly different to Marty suggests to

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 1>me that this this could be intentionally or otherwise a

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:29.120
<v Speaker 1>very clever, satirical way of saying. There are a lot

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>of services out there that are making these huge promises.

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 1>The idea of preserving your youth is an enormous industry

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and has been for centuries, but now we've gotten into

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the high tech portion where everything from injecting what would

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 1>be considered a deadly toxin into your body so that

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>you could preserve a renkal free existence is now accepted

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 1>in society. Um. Yeah, it's not really that unusual to

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>have this kind of of statement from a character. So

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>if we take it from that perspective that there is

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>an industry that still exists in that's catering to people

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>who are fearing the aging process, but is not, you know,

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>demonstrably incredibly effective. This this prediction is absolutely true to

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>today because because there's nothing stopping a company making these

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>grandiose claims as long as they never get you know,

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 1>called out on it then So I think this is

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>one of those things that is fairly accurate because we

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 1>don't actually see the techniques that are being described as

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 1>working in that way. It's not like we are. We

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 1>don't encounter any characters who are forty years older than

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you think they should, like that have lived forty years

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>longer than you think they should have been able to live.

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 1>We never encounter a character who's like a hundred and

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty in Back to the Future too, So it's very

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>possible that what Doc is saying is just complete hogwash

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>that he himself has bought into. It's a possibility. Now,

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>granted that's kind of taking a meta view, so it's

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>not exactly Yeah, it makes sense to me, and I

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>do think I mean, especially since, um, since Biff, who

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 1>is of grandfatherly age, of the kind of age that

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>someone would have, well, I guess he's he's what we

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 1>can use our skills and counting. He he would be

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>uh sometimes like like eighteen plus thirty plus thirty Yeah, um,

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>so seventy eight and he looks, you know, despite the

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:29.959
<v Speaker 1>range of age makeup that they employ. Um, I guess

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe about that age, I'd say is a pretty generous

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 1>lifespan for Biff based upon his lifestyle. That's true, So

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>you may you may be able to infer some life

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>extension technologies. Yes, the injury is still out on this one.

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 1>But at anyway, we don't have like amazing rejuvenation techniques

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>that can actually add forty years to your life. Yes.

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Another thing that we do not have is um sleep

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 1>inducing alpha generator. Definitely not the way they are in

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the movie. Uh. This is this device that conveniently gets

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>a character out of the story for as long as

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the plot requires. Yeah, Doc uses this to uh to

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>put Marty's girlfriend Jennifer Um into a state of sleep

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:20.959
<v Speaker 1>for her a period of a few hours um and

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 1>in which he says that she'll wake up kind of

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>groggy and and based on the fact that this is

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 1>induced alpha waves in her brain, will assume that everything

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 1>about this this future that they've been talking about will

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>seem to her a dream. Right, So that in other words,

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't have this this ikey uh loose end

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>to tie up. You know, he doesn't have to kill

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>her and dump her body into prehistoric America. Why did

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 1>he take her in the first place, because she was

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>there with Marty when he came back at the end

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 1>of Back to the Future one, and they couldn't just

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 1>leave her there because, to possibly go babble, she had

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>seen the time machine. Right. He comes back at the

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 1>end of Back to the Future Part one, at the

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>very end of Less Sweet than I Remember. Well, it's

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>when he comes out and he sees Marty and he

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>sees Jennifer and he says that you guys got to

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>come back and says, what back? No, we got to

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>go to the future. What's the matter, Doc? Do we

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>turn out to be get ready to believe? No? This

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>holes or something? And then Doc says, uh, says no, no,

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>you guys are fine. It's kids, Marty. Something's got to

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>be done about your kids. And then they get in

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 1>the car and they fly, so she's with them at

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the end of back. So they had the problem. We've

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 1>got this character. It's a continuity problem, but we don't

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>know how to write for women, so we we can't

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>have her in the movie. Let's knock around as soon

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>as we possibly can. Yeah, So they hold up this

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>device which essentially shines a couple of lights into her eyes,

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>knocks her out. It reminds of the Men in Black device, honestly,

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 1>which I guess. I guess the Men in Black device

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>reminds me of this. Yeah technically, yeah, so very similar

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>in that sense. And it's supposed to induce alpha waves,

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>like you were saying, and at the time, alpha waves

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>were really being associated with, uh like your early early

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>phases of sleep, so light sleep, not when you've gone

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>into R. E. M. Sleep. However, since then, uh, more

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>study has been made into alpha waves. And while we

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>still you know, sleep is still largely mysterious to us,

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things that we don't really understand.

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 1>We've talked about that in previous episodes too, But it

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 1>looks more like alpha waves might indicate a time where

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of in a relaxed state, but you are awake,

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>so kind of like meditation when you've when you're doing

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 1>actual uh progressive relaxation exercises, that kind of stuff. Your

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>eyes are closed, you're breathing slowly, you're you're actively trying

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>to relax you you're going to have some alpha wave

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>brain activity, but you're not asleep. You know, you're not

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>sleepy necessarily, and also can happen during R E. M sleep,

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>But that's different too, and there's not a whole lot

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>of agreement over exactly what role what it means. You know,

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>as far as our em sleep is gone, it goes.

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>So even if we had one that would induce alpha waves,

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:12.879
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't knock somebody out like that. We do have

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>various devices that are supposed to help you relax, like

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>either by playing soft music or or other relaxing sounds,

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 1>or or they're even ones that use light. There's light

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>therapy ones that are meant to help with relaxation. I

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:29.799
<v Speaker 1>think I think both Joe and I are just going

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.240
<v Speaker 1>like or get you tipsy like a bottle of wine.

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Some of us don't drink alcohol. Wouldn't it have been

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 1>funny if what had happened in the movie is like

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 1>Doc Brown whips out of devices like this will put

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Jennifer to sleep and it starts playing like saxophone music.

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 1>That would have been a much better joke. I still

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 1>think the whole killing her and dumping group Rhistoric America

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>would have really gotten around this all right. I think

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 1>that if we get a time machine, we need to

0:34:56.320 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 1>go back in time and talk to Robert Zeneca's. Yeahs Zeccas,

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Now this was granted. I mean, the whole purpose of

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>her being unconscious is for a gag that happens later

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 1>in the film where she wakes up and sees her

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>future self. Yeah. Well they have to get her into

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the house so that she can witness the goings on

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>of her of her fututure family. Yeah. So it's it's

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's they did make use of her, but

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.280
<v Speaker 1>it was clear that it was going to be harder

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>to have this be a two character stories, so they

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 1>had to get rid of her somehow without killing her off.

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's how they did it. Well, do we

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 1>have any like, you know, exo skeletons and power suits

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>and robotic limbs in the future rising lack of exo skeletons.

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I was really kind of hoping for some of those.

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Uh but but no, but there are some bionic implants. Uh.

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Doc mentions kind of off handedly that that Griff Biff's

0:35:55.719 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>grandson um, because that's how names go, right. That's another

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 1>convention of the future is that your grandchildren will have

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>your same first name, but with the g R consonant

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 1>you don't see Biffs direct kids at any point. Do

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, just your grandchild will be groan than well,

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I will grow. That's a great name. That's like a

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>troll name. So you just need to move to Norway

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:31.279
<v Speaker 1>and you got it all planned out. Sorry, Okay, Yeah,

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 1>bionic limbs all right? So so so so Doc kind

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>of kind of jokes that there's a short circuit in

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:43.919
<v Speaker 1>Griff's bionic implants um, which which implies that he's got

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 1>it implies to me that he's got some kind of

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 1>brain implant going on. Um, but when you meet him,

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:53.799
<v Speaker 1>he when when he moves around there sometimes um these

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 1>terrific pneumatic robots sounds that accompany it, kind of implying that, like,

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 1>like especially when he's when he's like stretching his limbs

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 1>out or standing up tall or something like that, implying

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:08.240
<v Speaker 1>that he does in fact have bionic limbs of some kind,

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 1>although and driven by the same pneumatic stuff that is

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:13.800
<v Speaker 1>fed through little tubes all over the city. I guess

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that's funny. It makes me wonder if Griff is not

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 1>in fact Biff's biological grandchild, but a hybrid, uh cyborg

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:25.719
<v Speaker 1>clone of Biff. Yeah, that would explain why we never

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>saw Biff's son. Yeah, cyborg Biff. Alright, So it's a

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>terminator on the inside, that's what the pneumatic noises are

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:35.760
<v Speaker 1>coming from, and then on the outside it's living tissue

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>grown from Biff's DNA. I don't mean to to dampen

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, the party or anything, or or to really

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 1>bring things down. Well, we have cyborgs right now. The

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>whole purpose was to really talk about the technology as

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 1>it relates to today, not to invent new ways to

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 1>incorporate back to the future mythology into other existing science fiction. Okay,

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 1>so getting to that, we do have cyborg you know,

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>bionic limb type stuff, but it's all obviously very much

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:09.320
<v Speaker 1>in in the early stages, early prototypes. Some limbs are

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 1>a little more further along than others, but things like

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the robotic arms. We've started to see some really cool developments,

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:19.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean amazing stuff, uh, that have come out of

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 1>things like Dean Cayman's group. The Deca Arm, also known

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>as the Luke Arm, is a great example the original

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:30.719
<v Speaker 1>versions of that. We're controlled using actual sensors that were

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 1>built into shoes, so you would use your toes to

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 1>control the arm. But now they have versions of it

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:41.360
<v Speaker 1>that connect to you know. They they you can contract

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:46.400
<v Speaker 1>muscles in whatever is left of the limb that you've lost,

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and that will send the commands to the robots. So

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>there's still a learned there's a learning curve. You know.

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Obviously you need to learn how to to contract the

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:57.879
<v Speaker 1>muscles you need to send the command you want your

0:38:57.960 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 1>arm to do. But as you learn it and you

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>practice it, it becomes more and more natural to you,

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 1>so that you're no longer really thinking of it, you know,

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 1>in in a conscious way. And uh, if you read

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 1>any of the reports from the folks who have tested

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 1>this out, like the actual amputees who have used this technology,

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's incredibly inspirational stuff. It's really really moving

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:23.359
<v Speaker 1>to hear people talk about Like there was a guy

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>who said, I picked up a water bottle with my

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 1>left hand. The last you know, he's like in his

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 1>late forties, is the last time I did that, I

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>was twenty three. You know, as you know, you hear

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 1>something like that and you're like, wow, all of the fields,

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, and listening to them talk about some of

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>the kind of like average things that they can do,

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 1>like like like fasten their own pants. It's to feed themselves,

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:48.360
<v Speaker 1>right right, it's it's it's really awesome. Um it is

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, prohibitively expensive and um technical enough that it's

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:57.800
<v Speaker 1>or complex enough a system that it's it's really only

0:39:57.840 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 1>for those kind of cases where you're trying to restore

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.359
<v Speaker 1>function to someone who has lost it, and not in

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 1>this case, for beefing up a belief. Yeah you don't,

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 1>you don't have like the it's not used as enhancement.

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:11.919
<v Speaker 1>It's used as it's used to to regain independence. So yeah,

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:14.759
<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things where the reality and the

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 1>fiction are obviously very very different. And again, I mean

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't blame the film for this, because you know,

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to project a really you know, like they

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>were blue skying the whole future thing. What do they

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 1>care it's nine. When they're making the movie, they just

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 1>want They wanted to be fun and interesting and say like,

0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 1>all right, it's thirty years out. What could happen in

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 1>thirty years? And when when you have a question like that,

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 1>if you ask me like, in five what's the what's

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the baseline level of technology going to be? Like I'd

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 1>be making some pretty crazy predictions too, pretty when when

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 1>when I used to be on tech stuff, we used

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:57.919
<v Speaker 1>to make some pretty crazy predictions for just the very

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 1>next year. That's true, That's true. Another thing that they

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:05.760
<v Speaker 1>mentioned in the movie is suspended animation kennels. So apparently

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:10.879
<v Speaker 1>suspended animation is not only so widespread and successful that

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:12.799
<v Speaker 1>humans can use it, but they can you can put

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:17.359
<v Speaker 1>your dog in it, right, I mean to yeah, yeah,

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you're going out town. You don't wanna, you know, take

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 1>care of the pooch. It's you know, to them, it's

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:25.960
<v Speaker 1>like you never left. Yeah. Oh well, although I can

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 1>see the appeal of that, I guess, yeah, yeah, so

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>you're not traumatizing your dog. I mean the appeal I

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 1>see is that. I mean, obviously, this is assuming that

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:37.360
<v Speaker 1>the actual process of putting your dog in suspended animation

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:41.239
<v Speaker 1>is not at ull traumatic h for anybody the dog

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:44.839
<v Speaker 1>in question, Einstein seemed to find. So, assuming that that's

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the case, the thing that appeals to me the most,

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 1>and this is totally like uh super squishy Jonathan feelings,

0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 1>is that you have the most time with your dog.

0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>You're not cheated out of a single moment of your

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:02.879
<v Speaker 1>time your dog, because you know, you're not losing that

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 1>week that dog is. Yeah, you could even do it

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 1>at night or when you go to work and then

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you come back home and then like so your dog

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 1>could live to be like forty. I miss my dog. Guys, Oh,

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:20.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't blame you, but but yeah, we've had an

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 1>entire episode about how unlikely it is that suspended animation

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>is ever gonna work right, well, at least for certain

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:31.359
<v Speaker 1>types of animals. Yeah, right, mammals maybe not so much.

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:34.720
<v Speaker 1>There's some like reptiles and things where it's much easier

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:37.440
<v Speaker 1>to see how you could achieve some kind of suspended animation,

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 1>especially with the kinds of reptiles and fish and certain

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 1>animals that you can just freeze and not kill them.

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 1>And we also talked about how the breakthroughs we've seen

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:51.760
<v Speaker 1>in quote unquote suspended animation are really more about giving

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:55.719
<v Speaker 1>the best chance for for victims of terrible injury or

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:59.759
<v Speaker 1>disease or whatever to recover during a surgical procedure that

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 1>may last a few hours. So you're not talking about

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 1>something where someone's indefinitely being put into suspended animation. It's

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:12.959
<v Speaker 1>more about let's try and create an environment where they

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 1>we are increasing their their chances of survival as much

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:19.360
<v Speaker 1>as possible. So it's not, you know, it's it's a

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 1>very different outcome than what we're seeing in in science fiction.

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.319
<v Speaker 1>All I'm saying is I can imagine pretty easily a

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:33.280
<v Speaker 1>suspended animation kennel for your pet juvenile salamander. Yeah. I think, yeah,

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I could see that being a thing. I don't know

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 1>how much you a few years out though, that's certainly

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 1>not it's they overreached. You could be. You could just

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 1>be a guy on the street corner with a big freezer.

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:56.799
<v Speaker 1>That's yeah, just have a sign, don't do that. Don't

0:43:56.920 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 1>really suspended animation kennel for salimated. It be nice to salamanders. Yes,

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>they're wonderful creatures. Yes. One one last bit of health

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:15.440
<v Speaker 1>equipment that we see in this film are so Marty's father, George, George,

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:18.360
<v Speaker 1>thank you, George McFly, who who is now of grandfatherly

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of age, has thrown out his back and so

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>he is in this hovering, suspended upside down ankle holding brace. Right.

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:38.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like if you've ever seen those things

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 1>of people who would get in these these these kind

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 1>of stretchers that would get inverted and the idea was

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>that I was supposed to treat back pain. It was

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:50.879
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be an actual therapy for this. Um it's

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 1>that same idea, except now it's hovering around so that

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 1>you actually have mobility as opposed to your stuck upside

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 1>down in a certain section of a building. Yeah, it's

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of it's sort of like yeah, yeah, yeah, or

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:05.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like that spell in Harry Potter that that James

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:09.919
<v Speaker 1>uses on snape when their kids. Okay, yeah, my wife

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:13.280
<v Speaker 1>could even tell you what it is nursery across nursery

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:17.400
<v Speaker 1>in fact, well the the so yeah, yeah, I can

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 1>tell you the reason for that technology in the in

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:23.240
<v Speaker 1>the context of the film, because it's funny. Well, also

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 1>that they could not get the actor for George McFly

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:30.719
<v Speaker 1>for part two. So what better way to disguise the

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:33.320
<v Speaker 1>fact that you don't have the same actor than inverting

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:35.799
<v Speaker 1>them upside down and never getting a really good look

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:40.279
<v Speaker 1>at them. So that was Yeah, Crispin Glover didn't want

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 1>to come back. Well, he wanted to come back, but

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 1>only if he got like a crazy amount of money

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 1>in all with with uh yeah kind of but yeah,

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, so that didn't happen. They said no, there's

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 1>no way we can do that, and so he walked

0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and they got a different actor. But yeah, if you've

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:00.760
<v Speaker 1>got that, that's why if you back to the future

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:03.319
<v Speaker 1>to all the scenes that have George in them, there's

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 1>like a screen door that you're looking through or back

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 1>from the scene. Yeah, exactly, so that way you don't

0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:13.319
<v Speaker 1>have it's not as obvious as a different actor. Um.

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Not that they had problems with Jennifer that way, but anyway,

0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:19.400
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a difference. Nobody cared about Marty's girl, not

0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's female. That's why we got rid of

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:22.440
<v Speaker 1>her in the beginning of the I do I do

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:24.680
<v Speaker 1>feel really bad that I've been just calling her Marty's

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:27.600
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend this entire time. She has a she she is

0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:30.840
<v Speaker 1>a person, she's self actualized kind of the way the

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 1>movie treats her. You can't be blamed for calling her

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Marty's girlfriend, because that's pretty much all she serves in

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 1>the all right enough editorializing about Yeah, we do have

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:47.920
<v Speaker 1>one last category here, and that is a citywide infrastructure. Um,

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and we we've already covered the inflation rate. Yeah. The

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:53.919
<v Speaker 1>idea that if if we get to a point where

0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you need a fifty dollar bill in order to go

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 1>buy a pepsi, not saying that pepsi itself is fifty dollars,

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:00.840
<v Speaker 1>but that a fifty dollar bill would be necessary to

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:05.839
<v Speaker 1>cover the cost. Then obviously inflation would have to go

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:08.280
<v Speaker 1>out of control for us to get to that point

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 1>in the next nine months. Yeah, they don't have to.

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 1>They don't have to be a catastrophic event, which were crust. Yeah,

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 1>let's I'll knock on wood. Um, I'm not sure. I'm

0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:23.160
<v Speaker 1>sure that there's wood somewhere undering underneath the sneer of

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:27.720
<v Speaker 1>our table. Um other infrastructure. They have a weather service

0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 1>that controls rain and clouds and sunshine like to the

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:39.279
<v Speaker 1>precise second. Yeah, yeah, at the controls it, yeah yeah,

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>or or perhaps predicts it. But it looks like a

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 1>control situation because as far as I know, southern California

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:52.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have um or doesn't typically have very brief, very sudden,

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:57.840
<v Speaker 1>very intense periods of rainfall. Yeah. And and what we

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:00.359
<v Speaker 1>see at the beginning of the film is um there

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:04.839
<v Speaker 1>they they just arrived, they've just landed. Uh, there's it's

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:09.439
<v Speaker 1>pouring rain, absolutely pouring rain. And um and and Doc

0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 1>has a little a little watch one of his two watches,

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:13.759
<v Speaker 1>because he's wearing two watches in the movie, which I

0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:17.400
<v Speaker 1>think is really adorable. Um, he looks at the screen

0:48:17.920 --> 0:48:21.720
<v Speaker 1>and and says, just wait another like five seconds, and

0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and as if by magic, the clouds part, the rain stops,

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the sun comes out. So there's apparently some kind of

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:31.440
<v Speaker 1>weather service. I I took it to mean as controlling.

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:34.120
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. It could be either way, or it could

0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 1>just be that they're actually predicting the weather. To the second,

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:42.800
<v Speaker 1>that seems well, the prediction, the prediction part. Neither of

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:46.120
<v Speaker 1>these are realistic obviously, certainly not for today. I mean

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:50.359
<v Speaker 1>like maybe in another well, even then I would say,

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:54.920
<v Speaker 1>to the second seems wrong. The prediction part is at

0:48:55.000 --> 0:49:04.360
<v Speaker 1>least the less impossible, less egregious impossible, just egregiously impossible, because,

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>as we've discussed on this very podcast before, weather patterns

0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:11.680
<v Speaker 1>are incredibly difficult to predict. They have an enormous amount

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:15.359
<v Speaker 1>of energy and them, uh, they're extremely chaotic events. When

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:17.440
<v Speaker 1>you look at a weather report that says there's a

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:22.440
<v Speaker 1>seventy chance of rain, essentially what that means, and I'm oversimplifying,

0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:26.880
<v Speaker 1>is that on all the other days that had weather

0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:32.799
<v Speaker 1>conditions similar to the day in question, it rained. Of

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 1>those days. That's why chance of rain means that in

0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:39.800
<v Speaker 1>those same conditions, seventy percent of the time it rained,

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:43.080
<v Speaker 1>of the time it did not rain. So it's it's

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 1>literally just giving you a percentage of chance that it's

0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.440
<v Speaker 1>going to rain that day. My favorite of the times

0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 1>when it says that it is currently raining outside and

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 1>you look out the window and it's not. Yeah, yeah,

0:49:56.120 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 1>that that sometimes can happen to Uh. That's so that's

0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:01.719
<v Speaker 1>the getting to a point where we can predict it

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 1>precisely is mind blowing, because again, it's just such a

0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 1>complex issue. I mean we whenever you talk to any

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:13.440
<v Speaker 1>climatologist about this sort of stuff, uh, and or or

0:50:13.480 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 1>a meteorologist, which would be more appropriate. Climatology is of

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:19.480
<v Speaker 1>course looking at very long patterns, but if you talk

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 1>to a meteorologist about this kind of stuff, you realize, wow,

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:24.759
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of factors that go into this,

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of them are very difficult to predict,

0:50:27.040 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 1>and some of them are impossible for us to know.

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:31.800
<v Speaker 1>At the moment. There are a lot of butterflies flapping

0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:35.880
<v Speaker 1>their wings out there. Yeah, yeah, so obviously you know

0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 1>those those monsoons are gonna just keep on coming. So

0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:44.920
<v Speaker 1>if it's a prediction thing, it's a little less unbelievable. Uh.

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 1>And that at least then you're talking about just knowing

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:50.200
<v Speaker 1>when a weather pattern is going to be moving through

0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to the point where you can even have it in

0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:55.880
<v Speaker 1>your schedule. But um, if it's about weather control, and

0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I took it to mean the same thing to me,

0:50:58.160 --> 0:51:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was, oh, this is when we've scheduled

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:03.279
<v Speaker 1>our rainstorm so that we can actually get you know,

0:51:03.600 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 1>water into the into the area and then it's over. Um,

0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:11.920
<v Speaker 1>that is well beyond our capabilities. Guys, guys. Yeah, sorry,

0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I just had an insight that I think perhaps makes

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:18.560
<v Speaker 1>this whole weather conversation we've just had irrelevant. I can't

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:21.000
<v Speaker 1>wait to hear it. I think what happened is that

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<v Speaker 1>Doc Brown had already been through this part of the

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<v Speaker 1>future more than once. That's what I mean. He watches

0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:30.880
<v Speaker 1>these events transpire, he sees what happens, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>comes back to get Marty and Jennifer, goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>the future and does them again. So he's already been

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<v Speaker 1>there at that moment, and he would already know when

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<v Speaker 1>it stops right, So it's not that because he says

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<v Speaker 1>specifically that the that the Weather Service is operating like

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<v Speaker 1>down to the tick, he could be lying, Well, he

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<v Speaker 1>is an unreliable narrator. Can basically, I mean, because most

0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 1>of these are jokes that are spoken by Christopher Lloyd's character.

0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 1>So really, most of these insights that we have about

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<v Speaker 1>this potential future could be the fact that he's a

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<v Speaker 1>deeply unreliable and psychotic narrator turned Doc Brown into Obi

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<v Speaker 1>one kenobi Okay, Okay, Well, I didn't know that he

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<v Speaker 1>had specified that about the Weather Service, And even if

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<v Speaker 1>he hadn't, then you have to go. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>assume that he wrote down the exact moment when the

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<v Speaker 1>rain stopped, like the rain's over, let's see what time

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<v Speaker 1>it is. I should make note of that. I bet

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<v Speaker 1>I can use this to impress Martins. Yeah, because the

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<v Speaker 1>building of the time machine isn't nearly impressive enough, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to tell him when the rain's gonna stop. Yeah,

0:52:36.239 --> 0:52:38.880
<v Speaker 1>he's he's really like the Wizard of Oz, I think. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, and also there is in that in that

0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 1>newspaper we referred to, Uh, there is a tiny little

0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 1>bit of weather. Now, this just shows how people have

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:54.200
<v Speaker 1>scrutinized every single frame of this film, freezing it and

0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:58.160
<v Speaker 1>looking at all the details. But uh, the October two

0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:02.440
<v Speaker 1>fifteen issue of USA Today has the mornings scheduled weather

0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:06.279
<v Speaker 1>for the Hill Valley, California area. Um so you get

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<v Speaker 1>like the actual time, and in fact, someone has written

0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:11.880
<v Speaker 1>it all down where it says mostly clear twelve am

0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:14.680
<v Speaker 1>to one thirty six am, partly cloudy one seven am

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:17.600
<v Speaker 1>to six thirty six AM, heavy rain six thirty seven

0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 1>am to seven twenty three am. So um so it

0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:25.839
<v Speaker 1>may very well be that this is prediction not manipulation,

0:53:25.920 --> 0:53:30.759
<v Speaker 1>but either way it is, it is unrealistic, especially in so. Uh,

0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:34.279
<v Speaker 1>this one's a miss, but this was fun. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>guys wanna have any other concluding thoughts before we wrap

0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:40.800
<v Speaker 1>up on this Back to the Back to the Back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Future Part two, Part two. I think the

0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:46.560
<v Speaker 1>companion to this episode should be that we get our

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:49.279
<v Speaker 1>friends from stuff you missed in history class to do

0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:51.800
<v Speaker 1>an episode on Back to the Future three and how

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<v Speaker 1>accurate that is to what eighteen what years supposed to be?

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<v Speaker 1>It would be? I think it was eighteen eighty five,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think it was a hundred years Okay, that

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:07.799
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. Yeah, yeah, that's my suggestion. Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>well we'll float it by them and see. I think

0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:14.759
<v Speaker 1>a five person podcast would be a blast. No no, no, no,

0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:17.279
<v Speaker 1>they could do it on their own, okay, and then

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:18.960
<v Speaker 1>we would just linked to it and we can just

0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:22.319
<v Speaker 1>look in through the windows shout snarky things occasionally. We'll

0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:25.080
<v Speaker 1>have to do that soon, because I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if we'll have a window in the new one,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll be moving before too. We can just cut

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<v Speaker 1>a hole in the wall. I'm sure that that will

0:54:31.239 --> 0:54:34.000
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