Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted on location from the
Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine in downtown Indianapolis from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined by my colleague West hot
Speaker 1: Quits and once again special guest Larry McCarron and guys.
Speaker 1: One of the positions that the Packers certainly are looking
Speaker 1: at here at the Combine for the upcoming NFL Draft
Speaker 1: and free agency for that matter, is the tight end position.
Speaker 1: West the Packers have only Lance Kendricks under contract at
Speaker 1: the moment. Richard Rogers is a pending free agent. Will
Speaker 1: see what happens there. What are your thoughts on maybe
Speaker 1: where this is headed for Green Bay? Well, I thought
Speaker 1: it was really telling. Mike McCarthy when he was meeting
Speaker 1: with the media back on now Wednesday, he mentioned that
Speaker 1: they need to increase the competition at that position. Obviously
Speaker 1: when when you go through the amunt of injuries that
Speaker 1: they did last season. Uh, give all the credit in
Speaker 1: the world Emmanuel Birds stepping up against the Detroit Lions,
Speaker 1: but that wasn't the way you drew it up when
Speaker 1: you were at this thing at the beginning of Week one.
Speaker 1: So the best Packer teams historically have had four or
Speaker 1: five options at tight end because with that body type,
Speaker 1: it lends itself to special teams even if they aren't
Speaker 1: getting the reps on offense. I think they got to
Speaker 1: get back to that. Richard Rodgers is a guy that
Speaker 1: we have to make a determination on in free agency.
Speaker 1: But I've been saying all along here, regardless of his situation,
Speaker 1: I think they still need to draft somebody at that position.
Speaker 1: And I know one guy that jumped off the pages,
Speaker 1: Troy ful mcgalley. He said he'd love to stay in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: I know Packer fans, Badger fans would love to see
Speaker 1: him stay in Wisconsin. But a lot of good prospects
Speaker 1: overall for the Packers have possibly consider. Yeah, Larry, what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on just what's going on here at
Speaker 1: the tight end position for Green Bay. You know what
Speaker 1: I've stood out to me most of this off season
Speaker 1: is when I read comments an expert opinions on Lance Kendricks,
Speaker 1: I get the sense of people I think he is
Speaker 1: a willing blocker, but not a very capable blocker. And
Speaker 1: I know this may be boring to people. That's a
Speaker 1: slight touchdowns of stuff, but I I could pull up
Speaker 1: some tape and show you that guy really kicking some
Speaker 1: rear end. When it comes to the blocking game, he
Speaker 1: is willing, but he's also very technically sound. Now he's
Speaker 1: a chiseled guy, but body type, he's not a big guy.
Speaker 1: He's not a mask. He can't can't lay that kind
Speaker 1: of weight on people. But because of technique, I could
Speaker 1: just show you some outstanding blocking both against down people
Speaker 1: full grown defensive ends and downfield against linebackers at the
Speaker 1: second level. So I just think Lance Kendricks in that
Speaker 1: regard and that specific area of his game has not
Speaker 1: gotten his just do. And I know a lot of
Speaker 1: you don't care, but I care. It's a good point,
Speaker 1: it really is, because I think sometimes people just look
Speaker 1: at the numbers, They just look at the stats, and
Speaker 1: that is the end of the ball game for them.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't really tell you the whole tale of things.
Speaker 1: And I think you look at some of the guys
Speaker 1: that have been successful in Green Bay, the Bubba Franks
Speaker 1: is in the world that Donald Lee's guys that were
Speaker 1: more well rounded, that they can do those multiple things.
Speaker 1: And we've talked about a time and time again, Mike,
Speaker 1: with the way that this college game has played now,
Speaker 1: the spread offense. Richard Rodgers talked about it with what
Speaker 1: he was asked to do at Cal it isn't There
Speaker 1: isn't as much inline stuff anymore. So little things like
Speaker 1: that go a long way. I think yeah, And I think,
Speaker 1: as we've talked about West, that's one thing that makes
Speaker 1: a guy like Troy fu mcgalley full Misconsin a very
Speaker 1: interesting prospect because coming from Wisconsin's pro style offense, he
Speaker 1: is a guy who's had to block. He is a
Speaker 1: guy who's gone downfield to catch passes. Now, he's not
Speaker 1: the most explosive athlete in the world, So you're talking
Speaker 1: about a mid to late round pick here, You're not
Speaker 1: talking about a first round draft pick. But then on
Speaker 1: the other side of things, also in the Big Ten
Speaker 1: from Penn State, Mike get Sicking is you know, also
Speaker 1: like fu mcgalley, six ft six, around two and fifty pounds.
Speaker 1: But this is a guy who's at another level athletically.
Speaker 1: He's a basketball player in his background, really loves to
Speaker 1: go up and get the ball. But a guy who
Speaker 1: doesn't maybe have the blocking resume that a guy like
Speaker 1: fu mcgalley does, he's a little bit higher rated because
Speaker 1: of those statistics and what he might be able to
Speaker 1: do downfield. But but two guys from the Big ten
Speaker 1: who are getting a lot of attention here. Well, Mike,
Speaker 1: when you mentioned a multi sport athlete playing the position,
Speaker 1: it reminded me of somebody we talked about Rosier this week.
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst, tight end out of South Carolina, and he
Speaker 1: is right at the top of the list, the top
Speaker 1: couple three, maybe fifth at the worst. He's going to
Speaker 1: be a high draft choice fifties, running the four sixes.
Speaker 1: But the thing I saw fascinating about him is that
Speaker 1: he came up as a drafted player in baseball out
Speaker 1: of high school, signed with the Pittsburgh Pirates for four
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. He's a picture six fifty, of course,
Speaker 1: and he signs for four d thousand dollars, and he
Speaker 1: gets to the rookie camp and slowly but surely, he
Speaker 1: starts losing it. He gets the what he called the yips,
Speaker 1: and he no longer has control his hand to be shaken.
Speaker 1: He got to the point, and this is what he said,
Speaker 1: he got to the point where he couldn't play catch
Speaker 1: on the sideline. They'd have to go somewhere else, and
Speaker 1: and he still couldn't play catch. He just developed, like
Speaker 1: I said, the yips. And he stuck with it for
Speaker 1: two and a half three years, still in rookie camp
Speaker 1: all that time, and finally he said, hey, I could
Speaker 1: play a pretty good game of football when I was
Speaker 1: in high school. So he enrolls of South Carolina and
Speaker 1: three years later he's one of the top tight ends
Speaker 1: in the draft. And what a resilience story. And another
Speaker 1: part of it he had Tommy John surgery as an
Speaker 1: eighth grade. I mean, just a remarkable story. He has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Troy f mcg but yeah, well,
Speaker 1: and you never you just never know what stories necessarily
Speaker 1: are behind these guys. Even get Sicky from Penn State.
Speaker 1: He was a quarterback initially in high school, got beat
Speaker 1: out for the job, was gonna quit football, thought he'd
Speaker 1: be the next Vince Carter on the basketball court. But
Speaker 1: then I had a coach say, hey, why don't you
Speaker 1: try receiver. So he becomes a receiver and said, hey,
Speaker 1: I kind of like catching touchdown and now here he
Speaker 1: is one of the top rated tight ends coming out
Speaker 1: of college football, coming out of the Big Tent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna be the next fense young too.
Speaker 1: That didn't quite work out for me. The height wasn't there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, really impressed enough scouts though for that. But
Speaker 1: one little last day, I want to tell Dallas Goddard
Speaker 1: tight end coming out of South Dakota State. There's been
Speaker 1: some good ones that have come out of that program
Speaker 1: over the years, even though it isn't one of those
Speaker 1: big power conferences, uh you know, FBS, whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call it. He had an interesting story too. He's
Speaker 1: a guy that could go in the first two days
Speaker 1: of the draft. He's actually named Dallas because his father
Speaker 1: is a Cowboys fan, but his mother ended up remarrying
Speaker 1: when he was eight years old. His stepfather, a Packers fan,
Speaker 1: ended up turning him over the Packers, so he said
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be too disappointed either if green Bay came coming.
Speaker 1: He should for green Bay. That sounds like a good idea.
Speaker 1: With that, we're going to go to a break back
Speaker 1: with more from the NFL Scouting Combine right after this
Speaker 1: Welcome Back to Packers unscripted from the NFL Scouting Combine.
Speaker 1: Larry and Mike and West here with you and uh West. Inevitably,
Speaker 1: when we come here every year. There are connections between
Speaker 1: these prospects who are entering the draft and players who
Speaker 1: are on the Packers roster. One of those connections that's
Speaker 1: really pretty interesting. For those out there who really know
Speaker 1: the Packers roster top to bottom, you'll know there's a
Speaker 1: six ft six wide receiver who made a little bit
Speaker 1: of a splash towards the end of seen. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about Michael Clark and his college quarterback from Marshall is
Speaker 1: here at the combine trying to make his pitch to
Speaker 1: get drafted, Chase Litton West. Would you find out about Chase? Well,
Speaker 1: here's what's interesting about this whole story. These two guys
Speaker 1: actually played AU basketball together from fifth grade through ninth grade,
Speaker 1: both Floridians and and you know, really good basketball players
Speaker 1: on the court. Well, ninth grade comes around multi sport athletes,
Speaker 1: and you know you had that first year Michael Clarke
Speaker 1: decides to play high school football and then decides, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna focus on basketball, ends up point
Speaker 1: of St. Francis, Pa. Plays for a year. Meanwhile, you
Speaker 1: have Litton ends up becoming a pretty accomplished quarterback, gets
Speaker 1: a scholarship, goes to Marshall, starts there for a number
Speaker 1: of years, and as time goes on, Michael Clark decides,
Speaker 1: you know what, I want to go back to football again.
Speaker 1: So he places a text message to Lytton saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: what do you think can we make this happen? He
Speaker 1: talks to his coach named Doc Holiday at Marshall Holiday
Speaker 1: three days later is that this is almost too much
Speaker 1: to dot Holiday Hoday is the mom name? Miss kiddy?
Speaker 1: What's going on? You know? That's that's definitely the same show.
Speaker 1: I don't even know regardless of the check out TV. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but anyway you have Clark to three days later,
Speaker 1: makes the trip down to West Virginia, starts as a
Speaker 1: walk on semester, later gets a scholarship, ends up leading
Speaker 1: them and receiving in his only year at Marshall. Now,
Speaker 1: the interesting part of this is you go for ord
Speaker 1: now is the fact that Linton is actually the one
Speaker 1: leaning on Clark for advice, because Clark ended up having
Speaker 1: those two games with the Packers last season. All the
Speaker 1: intangible six ft six He says, that size that you
Speaker 1: cannot coach and also just strictly unfair. His first three
Speaker 1: catches at Marshall. We're all touchdowns. I mean, that's just
Speaker 1: the kind of ashy. Yeah, throw up the ball and
Speaker 1: let him go get it, Larry, Michael Clark is such
Speaker 1: an interesting story, and I'm curious of your view on
Speaker 1: this because you've seen plenty of guys come and go
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. This is a guy. He doesn't go
Speaker 1: to a major college program. He starts as a basketball player,
Speaker 1: decides to enter the NFL draft after one year of
Speaker 1: college football, doesn't hire an Agent's gonna represent himself. He
Speaker 1: doesn't get drafted, he goes the undrafted route. By the
Speaker 1: end of his rookie year, he's on the active roster
Speaker 1: and playing football for the Green Bay Packers. Have you
Speaker 1: ever seen anything like this? Well, the thing of it
Speaker 1: is that whole process that you detailed right there. It
Speaker 1: says a couple of things. Number One, Michael Clark, a
Speaker 1: guy with his background, came to the right place. Now
Speaker 1: he will give free agents a chance to grow and develop.
Speaker 1: You need that. I mean a guy like Michael Clark,
Speaker 1: as unique as he is and what he brings to
Speaker 1: the party physically, you need time. You're talking about going
Speaker 1: from a little a little college football to the NFL
Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers to Green Bay Packers and Mike McCarthy's playbook.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking a heck of a transition. So
Speaker 1: you need a team with personnel people and coaches that
Speaker 1: have patients. The other thing I think it says is
Speaker 1: that Michael Clark is a special guy. He's got that
Speaker 1: that the right stuff. You know. There's there's so many
Speaker 1: times like when you're a player and they bring in
Speaker 1: the young kids and you watch and the guys, the
Speaker 1: veterans they watched in a lot of times they will
Speaker 1: recognize a player that's got the right stuff to mystical
Speaker 1: it shall always say. And I'm sure they were looking
Speaker 1: at Michael Clark this past summer and said that kid
Speaker 1: is going to be a keeper. And sometimes the players
Speaker 1: actually get that sense before the coaches, before the scouts.
Speaker 1: It's just something about it. And you see a kid
Speaker 1: how he goes about his business. And number one, you
Speaker 1: have to have ability wanting to do it. I I
Speaker 1: don't want to burst any bubbles, but wanting to do
Speaker 1: it is not enough. That's a big start. But God
Speaker 1: had to be nice to you in the delivery room.
Speaker 1: He had to give you some athletic ability. It's just
Speaker 1: the way it. As you go up the athletic ladder,
Speaker 1: you need that, you need at least a baseline of ability,
Speaker 1: especially as you move up to the higher levels. And
Speaker 1: so he's got that. But then there's also, like I said,
Speaker 1: that mystical it when it comes to attitude. Is is
Speaker 1: he that guy that after a couple of days of
Speaker 1: camp and people get sore and tired? Is he the
Speaker 1: guy's starting to make more mistakes? Is he the guy
Speaker 1: kind of you know, lack of days ago and his
Speaker 1: walk to the practice field and stuff like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you start looking for little signs, and you also look
Speaker 1: for signs the other ways. He's the guy that's first
Speaker 1: in line. Is he the guy that doesn't drop past us?
Speaker 1: Is he the guys that, when it comes to being
Speaker 1: physical can stick his nose in there? Is not afraid
Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff. That's what you saw, Michael Clark.
Speaker 1: And and as you mentioned, Mike, you know, you sit
Speaker 1: there and fight the good fight all season long, and
Speaker 1: the practice squad nobody knows you even exist anymore. But
Speaker 1: every day you're earning your spot on the roster, and
Speaker 1: every day you're being evaluated and the kids like Michael
Speaker 1: Clark who realized that they're the ones that end up
Speaker 1: getting that chance. Yeah, and where I think we're all
Speaker 1: very anxious and interested to see just what Michael Clark
Speaker 1: does in his second season. With that, we'll go to
Speaker 1: a break back with more on Packers unscripted from the
Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine right after this. Welcome Back to Packers
Speaker 1: unscripted from the Indiana Convention Center in downtown Indianapolis, the
Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine, Larry and Mike and West and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: we know the NFL is a cutthroat business. There's not
Speaker 1: a whole lot of room for sentiment around here, and
Speaker 1: these teams are going to be going at it in
Speaker 1: the draft, trying to figure out who these prospects are
Speaker 1: ranking him, trying to grab him before the other guys
Speaker 1: do all of that in a couple of months. But
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a sentimental moment West
Speaker 1: the other day when Seattle General Manager John Schneider was
Speaker 1: at the podium, long time personnel executive for the Packers,
Speaker 1: friend and confident of former Packers GM Ted Thompson. He
Speaker 1: was asked by you about Ted Thompson's legacy in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Now that he has he has stepped aside and made
Speaker 1: way for Brian Gouda Kunts and uh, the thoughts from
Speaker 1: Schneider we were very poignant, very interesting. Give me your thoughts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing that you have to understand
Speaker 1: is John Schneider is a ron Wolf guy. He's he
Speaker 1: wrote in that letter, you know, asking for an opportunity.
Speaker 1: Wolf's a guy that gave it to him. But during
Speaker 1: their time together, he got incredibly close with Ted Thompson
Speaker 1: in terms of just the day in, day out riggers
Speaker 1: of the job, but also just from a personal perspective.
Speaker 1: And you know, I've talked to him a number of
Speaker 1: times over the years and he always says the one
Speaker 1: thing he learned the most from Ted was just how
Speaker 1: to handle the job with class, you know, whether it's
Speaker 1: cutting a player, whether it's the way you run your operation.
Speaker 1: Something that he really tried to take with him. Even
Speaker 1: if you know philosophically his he differs in terms of
Speaker 1: some of the free agent acquisition stuff, he really took
Speaker 1: a lot of that from Ted. So given that Ted
Speaker 1: Thompson's tenure now as GM has come to an end
Speaker 1: after thirteen years now and that senior advisor role. I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask John about that. And the first thing
Speaker 1: he said when I asked him about what Ted's legacy is,
Speaker 1: he just said enormous and immediately started breaking up right
Speaker 1: after that and closed it. You know, I had a
Speaker 1: couple of nice words from the close it by saying
Speaker 1: we do miss him down here. Um. And and the
Speaker 1: big thing I think, you know, because Ted stayed back
Speaker 1: is Brian Goodkin said watching film and Green Bay right now.
Speaker 1: He's obviously still around here. But for these guys, the
Speaker 1: John Dorsey's, the Elliot Wolves, the Reggie Mackenzie's, all of
Speaker 1: them kind of sprout from the Ron Wolf tree, but
Speaker 1: all of them were, you know, have a had a
Speaker 1: pretty big impact made on them by Ted Thompson. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And when you look at the fact that the Packers
Speaker 1: have made this big change at the top of their
Speaker 1: football operation, Larry for the first time in thirteen years,
Speaker 1: the fact that this transition has gone as smoothly and
Speaker 1: seamlessly as possible. I've said it before, I think Brian
Speaker 1: Goodacus just looks like he belongs in the job. I
Speaker 1: think that's a credit to Ted Thompson, how he set
Speaker 1: the table and how he ran things. It's also a
Speaker 1: credit to Mark Murphy and and Mike McCarthy and everybody
Speaker 1: involved at the top of football that really, as much
Speaker 1: as as big a change as this is, this is
Speaker 1: still very much business as usual in Green Bay here
Speaker 1: at the combine. You know, when you talk about Ted
Speaker 1: Thompson and his legacy, and I've seen this happen before,
Speaker 1: it's gonna do nothing now. Those in the inner circle
Speaker 1: who really know the business, like you said a moment ago, West,
Speaker 1: his legacy is enormous. But to the Packer nation and
Speaker 1: the football the NFL nation beyond that, of course, anybody
Speaker 1: in Ted's role takes more than his fair share of criticism.
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't draft the right guy, he didn't
Speaker 1: sign enough free agent. That's just the way it is.
Speaker 1: And I can go back, because I watched it up
Speaker 1: close and personal. I can go back to Ron Wolf,
Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer Ron Wolf, that Ron Okay, when
Speaker 1: he was actually on the job, and keep this in mind,
Speaker 1: just him goes on. When he was actually on the job,
Speaker 1: he got criticized all the time, all the time. I mean,
Speaker 1: people picked apart his decisions, his moves, all that good stuff,
Speaker 1: and and he was a Hall of Fame caliber GM
Speaker 1: He officially became one a couple of summers ago, but
Speaker 1: he was always operating that caliber, and yet he got
Speaker 1: more than his fair share of criticism. Now we've seen
Speaker 1: the same thing with Ted Thompson. And we've seen despite
Speaker 1: the fact that the Packers went to the playoffs eight
Speaker 1: years in a row, that they went to several ENFCY
Speaker 1: championship games in the NFL that is the Final four,
Speaker 1: and that they've won a Super Bowl championship. Despite all
Speaker 1: those things the Green Bay Packers accomplished under Ted Thompson's leadership,
Speaker 1: he still got his share of criticism. However, as time
Speaker 1: goes on, there will there will come a time when people,
Speaker 1: and it won't be in the two distant future, talk
Speaker 1: about Ted Thompson in a golden era of Green Bay
Speaker 1: Packer football. I mean, you can see it coming, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna talk about whenever a situation and it will
Speaker 1: happen that a decision will go south. I mean, when
Speaker 1: you're betting on people, it's a tough bat. There will
Speaker 1: be a situation and people will start quoting Chapter in verse,
Speaker 1: something Ted Thompson did in a similar situation that worked
Speaker 1: out just fine, and a very good point about a
Speaker 1: seamless transition. And I thought something that spoke volumes in
Speaker 1: that regard was the Packers hosted a little lunch for
Speaker 1: the local writers, uh and part of that lunch was
Speaker 1: being able to talk in an informal setting with head
Speaker 1: coach Mike McCarthy and Packers GM Brian Goodacunst. And those
Speaker 1: two guys were sitting there. And it's not that Ted
Speaker 1: and Mike didn't have a comfort level. Of course they did.
Speaker 1: This thing worked and worked real well for a long time.
Speaker 1: But I had never seen the GM and the head
Speaker 1: coaches in that kind of setting, sitting side by side
Speaker 1: fielding questions, and you talk about the transition. There was
Speaker 1: just a a comfort level that you couldn't pretend. I
Speaker 1: mean that that couldn't be faked. There was just a
Speaker 1: real solid comfort level. And as you said, Mike, god
Speaker 1: goes back to Mark Murphy's called Ted Thompson, the whole culture,
Speaker 1: Brian Goodacunst, Mike McCarthy, the whole culture is in the
Speaker 1: right place, because that's when those things happen. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: definitely genuine. I agree with you, Larry, with that we've
Speaker 1: got to get to a breakback with more on Packers
Speaker 1: Unscripted right after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted from
Speaker 1: the NFL scouting combine Larry and Mike and West and guys.
Speaker 1: A lot of prospects have come through here over this
Speaker 1: last week and through the weekend while we've been here,
Speaker 1: Packers related or not. Is there any one guy that
Speaker 1: just really jumps out of you, that intrigues you for
Speaker 1: any one reason or another. Well, I really like these
Speaker 1: lengthy edge rushers because they give you that elephant type look,
Speaker 1: and that's something I think is still gonna be really
Speaker 1: prevalent in this defense under Mike Petton, and for that reason.
Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard is the guy that I've kind of pinpointed
Speaker 1: so far. Comes from a good program at Ohio State.
Speaker 1: I love his size at six five. That just seems
Speaker 1: to be the prototype for being able to do a
Speaker 1: lot of different things with these guys. But you look
Speaker 1: at Art and Key two, he's six six. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: the one that jumps off the page for everybody is
Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport. You know on the height that he brings
Speaker 1: to the table. Uh, so many different things you can
Speaker 1: do with him, whether you rushed him off the edge,
Speaker 1: three point stands, you know, going off the two point stands.
Speaker 1: So many different you know, options with those guys. But
Speaker 1: Hubbard is a guy I think with his pedigree, how
Speaker 1: productive he was I think it was seven sacks. Is
Speaker 1: his last season with Ohio State. You know, potentially you
Speaker 1: know where he's gonna be in Day two or maybe
Speaker 1: day three. Could be a middle round option if they
Speaker 1: don't take one right off the bat. Yeah, one guy
Speaker 1: I'm really interested in, and it really has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the Packers necessarily, but it's a Shack Griffin,
Speaker 1: the linebacker from Central Florida. Now, his twin brother, Shakill,
Speaker 1: was drafted by the Seattle Seahawks last year. And Shack
Speaker 1: has uh he's missing basically the lower part of one
Speaker 1: of his arms, and you wonder, okay, how in the
Speaker 1: world are you supposed to tackle that way? Then you
Speaker 1: look at his college tape at Central Florida. It's amazing
Speaker 1: what the guy does. He he can make every play,
Speaker 1: he doesn't stop. He's got a motor, motor that doesn't quit.
Speaker 1: Then you just try to figure out, okay, well this
Speaker 1: translate to the NFL. A guy like say Kwon Barkley,
Speaker 1: who's running a four four forty and doing almost thirty
Speaker 1: reps on the bench and a forty plus inch vertical jump.
Speaker 1: How is a guy like Griffin's supposed to tackle a
Speaker 1: guy like Barkley in the NFL. I don't know how
Speaker 1: it's gonna work. But his story, to me is absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm really intrigued to see where his career goes from here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think you could sum it up this way.
Speaker 1: Not just a good story, he's a good football peace
Speaker 1: and he's proven it, as you mentioned, against the top
Speaker 1: notch competition. Yeah. And one other thing to consider too,
Speaker 1: He's he's been missing that that hand since fourth grade
Speaker 1: or four four years old, excuse me, So, I mean
Speaker 1: he's been doing this his entire life. That builds up
Speaker 1: a lot of different things that you know, that help
Speaker 1: him as well. Yeah. And we'll see here as the
Speaker 1: as the Packers now get prepared for the draft, Wes,
Speaker 1: you mentioned a bunch of the uh, the pass rushers,
Speaker 1: will see what they maybe try to find in terms
Speaker 1: of cornerbacks, tight ends. Twelve draft picks is a lot,
Speaker 1: isn't Hilary? Yeah? It is, and I think Brian Gudakums
Speaker 1: made a very good point when talking about those twelve picks.
Speaker 1: Compensatory picks can be traded, gives you a lot of flexibility,
Speaker 1: a lot of ammunition, and with that we're going to
Speaker 1: call it a rap on Packers unscripted and from her
Speaker 1: on location coverage from the Scouting Combine. Thanks to Larry
Speaker 1: and West. I'm Mike. We'll see you next time.