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Speaker 1: throw out a little content warning if you're not familiar

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Speaker 1: with the bobb It's their story does contain sexual violence,

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Speaker 1: bodily harm, and spousal abuse. If these are not comfortable

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Speaker 1: topics for your ears, you can hang back and our

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Speaker 1: next episode is all about happy people having fun, So

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Speaker 1: we'll see you then. If you are in for this

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Speaker 1: ridiculous ride, then here we go. Hey, Hey, hey, everybody. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm Eli and I'm Diana. We're here talking about the Bobbit's.

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Speaker 1: Oh now, this is a ridiculous romance. You might remember

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Speaker 1: from when it dominated headlines after lorraina Bobbit famously took

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Speaker 1: a knife and sliced off her husband John's penis and

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Speaker 1: then threw it out the window of a moving car. Yes,

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Speaker 1: not the fairytale romance you might remember about the Bobbit's

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Speaker 1: quite a Cinderella story. No Hallmark movie made about it, sadly,

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Speaker 1: but a very interesting story. Nonetheless, it's so much more

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Speaker 1: and just you know, dismemberment. It's so much more than

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Speaker 1: you know, what we all remember, at least for us.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was nine when this was happening, so

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Speaker 1: to me. It was all just schoolyard parody songs and

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Speaker 1: like funny ha ha. It's not it's not funny ha ha,

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Speaker 1: it's funny wow. At best, there there are some funny

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Speaker 1: ha ha moment. It's a really strange story. These are

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Speaker 1: a really interesting couple of people, each in their own way. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into that, so let's dive in hay

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Speaker 1: their French come listen. Well, Eli and Diana got some

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Speaker 1: stories to tell. There's no match making, a romantic tips.

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Speaker 1: It's just about ridiculous relationships, a love. It might be

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Speaker 1: a concrete wall. But if there's a story, were the

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Speaker 1: Second Clans Ridiculous Rolls A production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Um So tell Us About Raina Lorraina Gallo. She was

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Speaker 1: born in Ecuador in nineteen sixty nine. She was raised

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Speaker 1: in Venezuela and she grew up idolizing American culture. She

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Speaker 1: to Virginia on a student visa in nineteen eighties seven,

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Speaker 1: and she worked as a manicurist at a salon owned

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Speaker 1: by a woman named Jane Bassetti, who will come into

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Speaker 1: this story later. And at a dance hall near the U. S.

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Speaker 1: Marine Corps base in Quantico, she met John Wayne Bobbitt,

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Speaker 1: a lance corporal in the U. S. Marines, and it

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Speaker 1: was like an instant attraction. This is the Cinderella part

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Speaker 1: Wayne Bobbitt who was in the Marines, and the Marines

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Speaker 1: come on done. That's it. That's all. That's the last ingredient.

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Speaker 1: So they got married. She was twenty and he was

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Speaker 1: I know this is the this is the heartbreaking part.

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Speaker 1: I guess that there wasn't much before the heartbreak. The

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Speaker 1: of accusations on Lorena's side that throughout their marriage he

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Speaker 1: a freaking nightmare for Lorena to be married to her

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Speaker 1: American dream man. For John's part, he said that she

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Speaker 1: Code eleven. Yeah, we got a missing penis in a

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Speaker 1: off and reattached and stuff, it just feels like you

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00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: should leave it alone. I think I would leave it alone,

422
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: quit picking at it. They say, you know you're going

423
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: to leave a skok. You don't just keep coming back

424
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: from more surgery most people, I'd say, people, that's not

425
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: a hard statistic. I'm making this up. Never get surgery

426
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: on their penis, multiple surgeries, it's a lot. But he

427
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: really wanted to be famous, I guess. And that male

428
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: enhancement surgery led to his second adult film with Ron Jeremy,

429
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: which was called Frank and Penis. Came out in if

430
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: you want to check out that masterpiece um, and Ron

431
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: Jeremy said, I'm sure it's not worth saying. Do pirate it.

432
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: Make sure nobody makes a penny off that thing. Come on, Yes,

433
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: these are not the views with My Heart Radio, but

434
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: they are the views of this podcast. Don't steal media

435
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: saying stream it for free on radio. If I don't

436
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: think they're streaming Frank and Penis, well maybe they should.

437
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm just saying if a VHS, I'm just saying, if

438
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: a VHS falls off the back of a truck and

439
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: you find it in the road, that's then then you

440
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: can watch it if you want. Just don't. That's a

441
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: curse tape. Let's let's redo the ring. But it's Frank

442
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: and Penis seven in seven days your ticklefall off. Nobody

443
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: would watch it. The movie would mean five minutes long.

444
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,959
Speaker 1: People are a lot more protective of their dicks than

445
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: of their lives. Uh Funnily, Ron Jeremy once said, let's

446
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: put it this way. With that type of procedure, length,

447
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: you can do not thickness. John went for both. So

448
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: turns out the results of all of this is that

449
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: his dick resembled a dented red bull can. That's that's

450
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: how it's been We haven't seen it, That's just how

451
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: it's been described. But yes by his girlfriends and I

452
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: guess the porn actresses but acted with him, hopefully the

453
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: only people to ever see his dick again. No, I know.

454
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Speaker 1: On punch Line now, and believe it or not, John's

455
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: story does get crazier and crazier. So we don't want

456
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: to leave you dangling, but we'll be right back. Okay,

457
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: welcome back. Everybody. Gird your loins because John Bobbitt's story

458
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: hasn't even reached peak Bobby too it. Ron Jeremy says,

459
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: Uncut is actually one of the highest grossing adult films

460
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: of all time, so that's something. But John still had

461
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: money problems because, as we've seen before, he's not great

462
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: at making decisions. No, he went to work at a

463
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: at a bunny ranch where he was fired and rehired

464
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: several times. The guy who owned it is Dennis Hoff,

465
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: the guy who won the two thousand eighteen State Assembly race,

466
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: even though he died a month before the election. He

467
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: was found dead by Ron Jeremy after they celebrated his

468
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: seventy second birthday at Ron Jeremy's Love Ranch with rapper

469
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 1: Flavor Flavor and Sheriff Joe Arpeo, among others. It's just

470
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: so many really great names popping up in this story.

471
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: Just the really, it's Howard Stern's New Year's Eve pageant

472
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: got a whole slew of folks. You just want to,

473
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: Oh God, what a mess. Ron Jeremy's New Year's Eve

474
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: party of horrible. He was very much behind Dennis Hoff's

475
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: run for the state Assembly seat. So I guess there

476
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: was part party, part campaign event, and yeah, he died

477
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: at it and then still one. So what does that

478
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: say about either his opponent or the state of Nevada.

479
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. John also had a short stint as

480
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: a minister at a chapel in Las Vegas, which imagine

481
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: imagine going to Las Vegas to get married and saying, oh,

482
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: let's do the Bobbit ceremony. That harbinger of marital harmony

483
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: John Wayne Bobbitt. This is really we're going to set

484
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: things off on the right foot. Yeah, I'd really like

485
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: to start as I mean to go on, and that

486
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: means having porn star John Wayne Bobbitt write his name

487
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: on my marriage certificate. Uh. He played guilty to a

488
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: grand larceny charge related to the theft of a hundred

489
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: and forty thou dollars worth of clothes, and he got

490
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: five years probation, and four months later he's found guilty

491
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 1: of harassing his ex adult film star Desiree Las So

492
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: just crushing it. He drifts for a while. He's still

493
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,239
Speaker 1: trying to find ways to make money out of all this,

494
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: along with his lawyer Barry Levinson, who is a scam

495
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: artist who died in prison for defrauding several homeowners associations

496
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: and the I R S. And I want to make

497
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: sure jump in and clarify here that this is not

498
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: Barry Levinson, the filmmaker who directed rain Man, Good Morning,

499
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: Vietnam Toys, Wagged the Dog, among others. Very different Barry, No,

500
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: completely different guy who is dead now? So wait, which

501
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: the scam artist he died in prison? Oh yeah, okay,

502
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: Barry Levinson the director is live and well doing great things.

503
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: He's got a new project coming up called Dope Sick,

504
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: according to IMDb, like Barry Levinson's Fine, Barry Levinson's School.

505
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: Barry Levinson is dead. Yes, Philippa Sue is in it.

506
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: I'll watch it. John appeared on a Monday Night raw

507
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: on the World Wrestling Federation. Of course, what's left? He

508
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: was supposed to fight Joey Buttafuco so nothing, nothing is left?

509
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: But he missed that much like his premiere, because he

510
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: was charged with battering his third wife, Joanna Farrell, who

511
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: was a fitness model. So you may have noticed I

512
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: just said third wife. Marina was his first wife. Second

513
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: was married for an unclear number of days. I saw

514
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: two days, thirteen days, a couple of weeks, and thirty

515
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: two days respectively on different sources, but I think for

516
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: the most part it's maybe a week or so. That

517
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: he was married to a woman named Dottie Brewer in

518
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, which brings me to you this

519
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: episode side piece. Dottie Brewer. She is an author. She

520
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: wrote a book a tell all called This Week I

521
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: Married John Wayne Bobbitt Extraordinary Stories from an Ordinary Life.

522
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: Her other books include How to Ship Money, The Soul Cries,

523
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: and I Saw Jesus and the Cat Food Bowl And

524
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: you should look her up. Her publishing company is called

525
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: Billion Dollar Baby Productions. Uh. Dotties bio on Amazon is

526
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: that she was born in New Orleans and moved to

527
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: Los Angeles at an early age. She began reading any

528
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: and everything spiritual. As a young adult, she began taking

529
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: any and every spiritual class and or workshop. It is

530
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: through her experiences that she gathered the knowledge that she

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00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: imparts in her books. She currently lives in Delaware with

532
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: her five cats. So I guess is where she saw

533
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: Jesus in their bowl? And the review of her book

534
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: about John Wayne Bobbitt is that it's part true life

535
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: self helped text and the other part a no holds

536
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: barred tell all altogether a hoot, and it has everything

537
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: from breast implants to earthquakes, marital distress, ghosts, drag queens,

538
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: panic attacks, betrayal. She does tell you what it's like

539
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: to sleep with John Wayne Bobbitt, but not until the

540
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: very end, because she knows how to sell a book,

541
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: does Dottie. She's going to keep you on the edge

542
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: of your seat till the end. And yeah, ghosts, Yeah,

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00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: she had an accounter of the witch doctor apparently, um

544
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: and a butcher ordinary life, come on. That's another reviewer

545
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: was kind of like she's good at She's kind of

546
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: a lady who makes some crazy choices and then she

547
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: writes them down. But from a lot of the reviews

548
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: are actually pretty good and it sounds like it might

549
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: be a fun read. So anyway, Dottie Brewer, she was

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00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: married to John Wayne Bobbitt for a little while. That's her,

551
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: that's her claim to fame. Bunch of really fascinating characters

552
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: in this story. So now, John Wayne Bobbitt works in construction,

553
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: He drives a truck, he split with Joanna Farrell, and

554
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: he was found not guilty for sever all battering charges. Uh.

555
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: And he moved back home to take care of his

556
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: mother who was sick with cancer. He gets into a

557
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: car accident and he broke his neck. That didn kill him.

558
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: He still alive. In he got his penis reduced by

559
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: the same surgeon who reattached it. And John said, I

560
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: should have just left it alone. That's what I've told

561
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: you in Ninetee John, it's John. How it's been all

562
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: over Las Vegas Jesus disgusting. Uh. Yeah. And now now

563
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: he lives in Vegas off his disability settlement from when

564
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: he broke his neck from that car accident, and a

565
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: majority of his time was spent searching for a treasure

566
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: chest that an accentric millionaire named Forest Fenn was rumored

567
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: to have buried in the Rockies, but that was actually

568
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: found in last year June of It was found in

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00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: Wyoming by a thirty two year old medical student. So

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00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: John was kept from that treasure. I don't think he

571
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: looked that hard for it, though, I mean, he was

572
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: totally off right. I think he didn't really leave Nevada.

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00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: I found a really funny passage and the Durango Telegraph

574
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: said that, according to an unnamed employee of a Durango

575
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: gear shop, someone claiming to be John Bobbitt asked for

576
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: a grappling hook. When said employee explained that the store

577
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: did not sell such devices, adding that they were in

578
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: fact quite dangerous in the wrong hands, the man claiming

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00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: to be bobb It allegedly played the rich and famous

580
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: do you know who I am? Card? Which? What I

581
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: mean again? What a claim to fame? It's not like

582
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: that exciting? Do you know who I am? I had

583
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: my dick chopped off, sir, give me a grappling hook.

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00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: I'm the star of franking Penis and I'll demand the

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00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: respect I deserve and you'll get it too. And the

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00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: Telegraph goes on to say, then the customer, who was

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00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: described as flaming Lee up knock Shifts, went on to

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00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: divulge that he was in search of friends treasure, which

589
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: he believed to be hidden somewhere nearby. Why he needed

590
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: such a treasure when he was already rich and famous

591
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: was not explained. So he gets roasted by the Durango

592
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: Telegraph and yeah, and he lives in Vegas. And Lorena's

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00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: claimed in two thousand nine that he still sent her

594
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: flowers and Valentine's cards, so she said he was still

595
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: in love with her. He said more recently that she

596
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: was stubborn and crazy. So either way, they've communicated. They

597
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: have communicated. It took a while, but they did. They

598
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: have been in the same room. And uh, their legacy

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00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: beyond this episode and many others like hid about their

600
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: story is that a worm that attacks its prey with

601
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: scissor like Jaws was named for the case. It's called

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00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: the bobb It worm, which makes sense. It's a worm,

603
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: after all. That's do you think when they found the

604
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: worm they put it in a big bite hot dog

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00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: box filled with ice. I hope. So just get back

606
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: to the lab, just full old time stake. I wonder

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00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: if John hangs onto that hot dog box. I wonder

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00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: if they let him keep it. What a souvenir. Oh man,

609
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: it's my dick. It really was. His stick was in

610
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: a box stick. But it wasn't a gift. It was

611
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: a curse. So John's John Wayne Bobbitt has the Bobbit

612
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: worm as his legacy. Loreena Gallo has a much better legacy.

613
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: The Gallo Foundation is dedicated to spousal abuse, marital rape

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00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: um not dedicated to dedicated uh from from our cursory

615
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: research causeworth supporting for sure. So she's she's been in

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00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: the media a lot, especially recently. Like we said, Jordan

617
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: Peele put out a documentary recently about the story. Yeah,

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00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: so we fortunately a better legacy than what John was

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00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: left with. And again, it's a tough story because you

620
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: don't want to condone someone taking a knife to anyone else.

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00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: It's maybe wasn't the best choice. But the more you

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00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: get to know him, the more you get it. Yeah, yeah,

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00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: And the more he does, the more he seems to

624
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: reinforce the kind of character that he was in the

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00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: in the circumstances that he brought upon himself. And this story,

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00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 1: we didn't focus as much on their actual romance because

627
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: what what kind of romance really good? Yeah, there was one,

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00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem that way. It was nice for a minute,

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Speaker 1: It seemed like maybe a good year, but then maybe

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00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: not even a year because it really didn't take very

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Speaker 1: long for but the fall out of that romance it

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Speaker 1: is certainly insane, from him thinking she was coming in

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Speaker 1: to give him a hand job, like a nice nightcap

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Speaker 1: to him searching the Rockies for a fortune that wasn't there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, the guy certainly lived, has

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Speaker 1: live to life. You've lived out loud, he has lived

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Speaker 1: out turn it down, yeah, dial it back, John. But

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Speaker 1: if you were around for the Bobby trial, um, or

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Speaker 1: if you have any thoughts on this episode at all,

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Speaker 1: if you know anything about this stuff, or if you

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Speaker 1: met either of these people or anyone who knew Ron Jeremy,

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Speaker 1: If you are Ron Jeremy, I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to hear from Ron jeremesis I don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear from Ron. I don't care. You know what we got,

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Speaker 1: Ron Jeremy. If you're listening, don't email us. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to hear it. So if you're anyone but Ron Jeremy,

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Speaker 1: please feel free to reach out to us at romance

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Speaker 1: It's Eli and I'm at Dianamite Boom. Thanks for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: I see you next time. So long, friends, it's time

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