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Speaker 1: You're listening Fox Sports. What's up, party people, It's me

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Speaker 1: Jason McIntyre, Fox Sports Radio. It's May May one, st everybody,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a three hour NFL Draft show.

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Speaker 1: Just strap in, lock in. I thought maybe we'd build

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Speaker 1: a segment around Jayson Tatum dropping sixty, the return of

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Speaker 1: Lebron and then I kept looking at the draft, second

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Speaker 1: and third rounds last night, and you know, besides calling

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Speaker 1: the Kyle Trast to Tampa move, uh two weeks ago

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Speaker 1: on Colin Cowherd Show, Yes, Kyle Trask is now Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady's backup in Tampa. Kyle Trast, the big kid out

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Speaker 1: of Florida who was a three star recruit with virtually

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Speaker 1: on that um, what do they call that? Uh circuit?

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Speaker 1: The seven on seven circuit. Kevin in the Summer's Kyle

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Speaker 1: Trast super accurate. Tom Brady now has a backup. Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady is not a little worried about that though, as

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Speaker 1: he should not be. They just won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: But we will get a lot into Aaron Rodgers in

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Speaker 1: his situation in Green Bay. I think Gavin and I

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Speaker 1: are on different pages. Here. Um, listen, I gotta I

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Speaker 1: gotta roll with Aaron Rodgers on this one. But there's

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to. The Raiders one of the

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Speaker 1: worst drafts. They were one of the worst teams in

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Speaker 1: the league. The Jacksonville Jaguars, folks, I'm telling you now

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Speaker 1: by stock early and um, we will get into can

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Speaker 1: they win the division? What the hell are the Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans doing drafting a a quarterback yesterday in the third round.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to bash the Houston Texans. What a

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Speaker 1: so so many different are ways to go at the

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Speaker 1: outset of the show regarding the NFL Draft, I saw

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Speaker 1: a bizarre story that the kid j C. Horne, who

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Speaker 1: J C. Horne's dad came out and said, I'm so

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Speaker 1: upset at Aaron Rodgers for hogging the draft spotlight that

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Speaker 1: nobody talked about my son, and I was like, whoa, whoa, Dad,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing? This is your kid getting to

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Speaker 1: the NFL and you want to make the story about

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Speaker 1: you being upset. Dad, Time to fall back. Let the

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Speaker 1: kid have his moment in the spotlight. Let Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: have his moment. Aaron Rodgers and the forty Niners are

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Speaker 1: the biggest stories from the opening week of the weekend

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Speaker 1: say it's Rogers. I'm skeptical he's gonna get dealt. Now

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Speaker 1: forty Niners are the biggest story. I've gotten a bit

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Speaker 1: of a brush fire with some jibrones on social media

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Speaker 1: because of my forty Niners take. And I think if

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Speaker 1: agree that there is clearly something amiss in the forty

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Speaker 1: on that all the Bay Area Pom Pom waivers are like,

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Speaker 1: oh no, that Kyle Shanahan got his guy. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: make the case for you that he didn't. Okay, and

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Speaker 1: then we got a guest coming up in about twenty

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Speaker 1: five minutes who saw one of my tweets about it,

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Speaker 1: into it because reasonable minds can disagree. So let me

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Speaker 1: frame it for you like this. Okay, the forty Niners

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Speaker 1: trade up, what about a month ago, six weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, every they want justin fields. The

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan Jimmy Garoppolo. Okay, Michael Lombardi comes out. Mac

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Speaker 1: Jones is the guy Adam Schefter who cut his teeth

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Speaker 1: he's twenty years old. Tray Lance through three eighteen passes

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Speaker 1: in college. Trey Lancer in the winged tea in high school. Okay,

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Speaker 1: people want to bash Zach Wilson and the competition levels

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Speaker 1: the trade Lance played. Okay, directional Missouri State, and all

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Speaker 1: Trey Lances, to my recollection, never played a close game

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Speaker 1: I don't buy that. Kyle Shanahan got his guy. Here's

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Speaker 1: why all these people who defend the forty Niners saying, oh, no, no,

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Speaker 1: it was just a smoke screen. It was a bluff.

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Speaker 1: That Matt Jones stuff was just to throw people off

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Speaker 1: Who are the forty Niners throwing off the scent? They

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Speaker 1: nobody to smoke screen or bluff. The Jags knew it

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Speaker 1: care about messing up draft boards of other teams. That's

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Speaker 1: not what the forty Niners are doing. The forty Niners

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Speaker 1: that will evaluate the quarterbacks later. What if you evaluate

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Speaker 1: All the radio hosts, yeah you're taking shots, but these

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Speaker 1: of the craziest stats I saw right before the draft

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Speaker 1: And I just I don't buy that John Lynch and

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Speaker 1: I'm completely convinced that there was disagreement in the front office.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it got he did an argumentative

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Speaker 1: But how Shanahan rubber stamp John Lynch to take that job?

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Speaker 1: Remember Shanahan had the job first, then they bring in Lynch.

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Speaker 1: Here is the call when the forty Niners made the

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Speaker 1: I'm so for a while, Oh man, I didn't know

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Speaker 1: worth it, man, dude, We're so pumped, so pumped. Man.

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Speaker 1: We'll get you out here tomorrow. Enjoy this night, your family, Manuverden.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I love these calls, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: if you if you just listen, Trey Lance seems stunned.

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Speaker 1: Chris Sims. Chris Simms famously Kyle Shanahan's best friend. They

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Speaker 1: both went to Texas together. They both got a tattoo

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Speaker 1: Chris Sims said, I know my buddy, I know he

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Speaker 1: and say Kyle wanted Matt Jones. Well they ended up

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Speaker 1: a year? All right? I want to wrap up the

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Speaker 1: opening segment by just saying I mean, I haven't seen ratings,

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Speaker 1: but Gavin, I'm I'm assuming this was a monster NFL

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Speaker 1: did a show for Fox Sports that was streaming. We

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Speaker 1: We had nineties six thousand people watching the screen stream

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Speaker 1: yesterday were staggering. I'm not gonna repeat them. Uh. Fox

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Speaker 1: bragging about how many people watch. But I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: right now, the draft was one of the best first

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Speaker 1: rounds I can recall in a year. Or you have

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Speaker 1: the numbers, Gavin, an audio combined audience between all the

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Speaker 1: two million more than the Academy Awards. Wow. Oh, now,

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Speaker 1: but because it gives you, It buys you basically four

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Speaker 1: years of an inexpensive quarterback where you can go and

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Speaker 1: fill out the rest of your roster and then hopefully

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Speaker 1: you get good enough and then you do the Pat

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Speaker 1: Mahomes where you backload your backload the salary cap, you know,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the deal. So that that that's

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Speaker 1: where they are, but you're not again. The Green Bay

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Speaker 1: Packers went to the NFC Championship game. They were they

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Speaker 1: should have gone forward on fourth down and they didn't. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but that said, they're like a play away, and remember

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Speaker 1: they didn't have their they didn't have their their their

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Speaker 1: offensive line was banged up a lot like Tampa and

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Speaker 1: they got just molly wop by the Tampa Bay defensive line.

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Speaker 1: They're that close to the Super Bowl? Why would they

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Speaker 1: trade Aaron Rodgers? Well, I would say I would ask

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Speaker 1: you the exact same thing. They were that close to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Why would you draft Jordan's love? Uh? Now,

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Speaker 1: we got a guest coming up from San Francisco, Doug,

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Speaker 1: so we gotta bounce. But hey, thank you for calling

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Speaker 1: in good stuff. I love to disagree. Hey, will you

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Speaker 1: talk to Shapiro get us to host um one of

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Speaker 1: these shows one day so we can do three hours

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Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers. That could be fun anytime. All right, buddy,

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Speaker 1: thanks a lot, Doug. Alright, coming up next year on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, we got Mark Willard from San Francisco. Listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm just arguing with everybody today. Fox Sports Radio has

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Speaker 1: to listen live. He's based in San Francisco and I've

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Speaker 1: known him for a while. He's he's you know, he's

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Speaker 1: a forty Niners guy at this point. His name is

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Speaker 1: Mark Willard, k NBR radio host Mark, how are you

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Speaker 1: on this lovely Saturday morning? Oh, isn't it that? It's beautiful?

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful. The sun is shining in the bay. It's like, Uh,

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Speaker 1: the gods know that that Mac Jones is all the

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Speaker 1: way across the death side of the country and so everybody,

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Speaker 1: everybody is happy in the sun is side in here.

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Speaker 1: So let me start off with this, Mark, what was

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Speaker 1: the reaction before the draft? Okay, before when it looked

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Speaker 1: like mac Jones was going to be the guy to

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Speaker 1: San Francisco? Sheer terror And I'm I'm I'm not I'm

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Speaker 1: not overstating this, and I it's not standing Mac. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what kind of NFL player he's going to be. Uh,

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Speaker 1: these things take on a life of their own. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just passing along what the forty Niner fans were feeling.

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Speaker 1: And this was going to be a real problem if

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Speaker 1: he was the pick. Whether it was rational or not,

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Speaker 1: didn't matter. The fan base was going to be beside

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Speaker 1: itself if if that was the pick. So I've like

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Speaker 1: that kind of the way we've seen presidential elections happened

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Speaker 1: in recent years, which is everybody's like, look, anybody but

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Speaker 1: that person. I don't really care who wins, but let's

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Speaker 1: not have that person. That's kind of the way. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback thought was here in the Bay Area, there

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Speaker 1: were a lot of trade lance people who would have

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Speaker 1: been fine with Justin Fields. There are a lot of

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields people who would have been okay with Trey Lands.

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Speaker 1: The unification was just not mac Jones. Anybody even Mac

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Speaker 1: Jones now? And why now? Why was everybody concerned about

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Speaker 1: Matt Jones? Mark? Was it possibly because Kyle Shanahan's best friend,

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Speaker 1: who has a tattoo just they went and got tattoos together.

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Speaker 1: Chris Simms said, as soon as the trade happened, it's

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Speaker 1: mac Jones? Was it because well? Hold? Was it because

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Speaker 1: Michael Lombardi who knows the Shanahan's well dating back to

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Speaker 1: the Patriots in Belichick and Mike Shanahan also saying from

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Speaker 1: the jump it's mac Jones? Was it possibly Adam Schefter

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Speaker 1: who cut his teeth covering the NFL in the nineties

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Speaker 1: in Denver? And Mike Shanahan was it possibly him saying

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Speaker 1: from the jump they went up to get mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: Is that why everybody was freaking out? Well, they're freaking

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Speaker 1: out because, yeah, there was enough noise to where it

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Speaker 1: suddenly became believable what was originally unbelievable, And it was

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Speaker 1: thirty seconds after the pick was made. Then I sort

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Speaker 1: of put my forehead on in my hand and went

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Speaker 1: Of course, it was indeed as ridiculous as it originally sounded,

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Speaker 1: the idea of trading your next two first round draft

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Speaker 1: picks to go up and get mac Jones. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that mac Jones isn't gonna be a good NFL player.

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Speaker 1: He very well might be. But the thought it wasn't

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Speaker 1: so much against mac Jones. It was against the idea

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Speaker 1: of making a trade like that, which at its core

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Speaker 1: is an incredibly bold move in facts, probably the boldest

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Speaker 1: trade in the history of the forty Niners organization. You

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Speaker 1: don't make an incredibly bold swing to then go up

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Speaker 1: and play it safe and and get the non athletic,

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Speaker 1: non entertaining player. It never made sense. It never made sense.

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Speaker 1: It still doesn't to this day, because I don't believe

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Speaker 1: it ever was stopped. I would agree with that all that,

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Speaker 1: but you said one word mark that I disagree with

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Speaker 1: you said noise, and to me, when we're looking at

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Speaker 1: the draft and free agency, you hear noise. It's like

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Speaker 1: an anonymous report from some website you've never heard of,

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Speaker 1: or some random guy on Twitter claims that someone came

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Speaker 1: into a drug store and said this, like, that's noise.

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Speaker 1: The people that were saying mac Jones to san Fran

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Speaker 1: that's not noise. Those guys usually speak in certainty because

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Speaker 1: their job as reporters covering the league is to be

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Speaker 1: plugged in, and they don't really throw noise up against

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Speaker 1: the wall. So are are you a dent confident that

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan got his guy? Or do you believe like

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Speaker 1: I do the Ian Rappaport report a couple of days

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Speaker 1: before the draft that there is a divide in the

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Speaker 1: front office. Kyle Shanahan wanted Mac Jones, and the scouts

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Speaker 1: all were lobbying for I believe certainty the cash Inahan

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Speaker 1: got his guy. Here's what I'll ask you, Jason, think

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Speaker 1: about it this way. Does Bill Belichick ever miss on

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Speaker 1: a draft pick? Okay? So that means that Adam Schefter

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Speaker 1: and Ian Rappaport and everybody else you just mentioned can

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Speaker 1: be wonderful at that job, but it doesn't mean they

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Speaker 1: got a thousand. Ian Rappaport two years ago reported that

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Speaker 1: Antonio brad to the Buffalo Bills was done. I had

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Speaker 1: Adam Schefter on a show on New Year's Eve last year,

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Speaker 1: and I said, Adam, I'm hearing that that Alex Smith

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Speaker 1: may be done, he may want to retire. And and

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Speaker 1: Adam almost seemed defended that I was bringing this up

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Speaker 1: and he hadn't heard it. He's like, are these people

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Speaker 1: credible who are telling you? I'm like, yeah, Like he

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00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: almost had me questioning myself. Everybody gets it wrong sometimes,

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Speaker 1: and when you have this many people saying it, that

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Speaker 1: actually me actually proves the point even further, because do

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Speaker 1: you believe the Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch, who famously

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Speaker 1: have kept things completely under wraps when they're doing whatever

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Speaker 1: they're doing. I think even about Trent Williams and the

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Speaker 1: draft last you know, they've kept things under wraps and

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Speaker 1: in the house very well. Does it make sense to

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Speaker 1: you that every reporter in America would have their pick

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Speaker 1: four weeks before it was gonna be made, Like, think

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Speaker 1: about it from that perspective, it doesn't even make sense.

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00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: This came from agents. This came from other NFL teams

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Speaker 1: who were reading the room. This came from a misperception

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Speaker 1: that Kyle Shanahan doesn't like athletic quarterbacks. He likes cookie

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Speaker 1: cutters of Kirk Cousins, which himself called ridiculous just two

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. Uh, Kyle Shanahan likes people like Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: and Josh Allen. That's what he likes. And I believe

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Speaker 1: that on Monday Night last year when the Bills carved

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Speaker 1: to forty niners up, that was a big night in

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Speaker 1: him making a decision that he wanted a new quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen was tremendous cost any money in that team.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the Antonio Brown that was hilarious because

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Speaker 1: in Tonio Brown was going there and then the Bills

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Speaker 1: had basically traded for him, and then Antonio Brown was like,

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Speaker 1: I ain't going there. I'm not God, I'm not doing

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Speaker 1: Buffalo alright. For one final note though, Mark, when you

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Speaker 1: when you look at the situation this season with Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: as the starter and then he's gonna get dumped for

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance, what happens if Garoppolo has a very good

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Speaker 1: season like he did the Super Bowl year. He was

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Speaker 1: very good. No, I don't know if he was top

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Speaker 1: ten statistically, but certainly top fifteen. And they go and

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Speaker 1: we're in a playoff game or two. Is it still

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Speaker 1: that easy to just say we drafted this guy. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna roll with it. Well, just never forget and

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00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: and Casanahan has spoken glowingly about this situation in the past.

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Speaker 1: Never forget. What you just described is exactly what Alex

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Speaker 1: Smith did. Patrick Mahomes rookie year, the Chiefs were fantastic. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they got the best version of Alex Smith. UM. I

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Speaker 1: had Kareem Hunt and Tyree Hill on fantasy team and

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Speaker 1: my gosh, I rushed everybody. That Chief's offense was really

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Speaker 1: good that year. They into the playoffs. They had a

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Speaker 1: disappointing loss. I think it was even in their first

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Speaker 1: game after having a first round by um and that

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Speaker 1: was kind of Alex Smith's m O. So maybe that

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00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: made it a little bit easier. But the Chiefs were

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Speaker 1: very good that year and they still made the move. Now,

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Speaker 1: the downside is do you have what happened with the

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Speaker 1: Packers last year, which I don't think was a downside

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Speaker 1: except for your seeing what's happening with it now. But

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Speaker 1: Jordan Jordan's love and Trey Lance are two very very

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Speaker 1: different situations. Listen, I think you're worry about that problem

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Speaker 1: when when it gets there. I do expect the forty

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Speaker 1: Niners to be to be good this year, um, but

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Speaker 1: outside of of them winning a Super Bowl, with Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo being one of the main reasons, I would I

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Speaker 1: would expect that that Trey Lance is is the starter

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Speaker 1: a week one of two and who knows, maybe even sooner. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith, one's interesting. The only thing I'll say is

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Speaker 1: he never had taken anybody to the Super Bowl before that,

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Speaker 1: right and close. Yeah, it didn't they didn't. They lead

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Speaker 1: that playoff game against I think it was Tennessee with Mariota,

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Speaker 1: like twenty one to three, and then they lost or

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Speaker 1: something that it was. Yeah, the way. Mark Willard k

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Speaker 1: NBR host. He's on Twitter. Mark T. Willard market Joy

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Speaker 1: is this, Chris? Who is it? Halld notes? Hall On notes,

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Speaker 1: good good? Uh, this is what I do at karaoke

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Speaker 1: all the time. You're out of time? Yeah, I like this.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people online, shockingly are mad at me

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Speaker 1: for being out of touch on the forty niners. Oh well,

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Speaker 1: this is great, Davin, You'll love this. Maybe Kyle Shanahan's

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Speaker 1: friends reported what he wants them to. Maybe he leaked

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Speaker 1: it so that the Jets would re evaluate and consider

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Speaker 1: Matt Jones over Wilson. No second guessing by Jets when

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Speaker 1: they trade up was for Jones. Supposedly smart move like

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Speaker 1: these guys are twisting themselves into pretzels about why the

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Speaker 1: forty Niners would lie or why everybody got it wrong.

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Speaker 1: The one thing everything everyone should agree on is a

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Speaker 1: smoke screen made no sense, Yes, none at all. It

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Speaker 1: was always Lawrence Wilson. Whether or not people are high

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Speaker 1: in the league are not as high on Wilson as

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Speaker 1: the Jets are. Doesn't matter. The Jets were okay if

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Speaker 1: it's what they want to do it. There's I get

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Speaker 1: the idea of not wanting other teams to know exactly

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Speaker 1: what you're gonna do, Like so if if if Kyle

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Speaker 1: was going to be quiet, and but I don't understand

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Speaker 1: the thing of intentionally trying to mislead unless you thought

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Speaker 1: someone was going to trade give a crazy amount for

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Speaker 1: the third third pick. But you also gave up those

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Speaker 1: other you know what I mean, You yourself gave up

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Speaker 1: a crazy It's weird. I never bought Mac Jones because

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Speaker 1: I don't believe in him as a quarterback. That being said,

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Speaker 1: I bought that Kyle Shanahan believed in Matt Jillenes. Does

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Speaker 1: that make sense? Yeah, I I I firmly believe that

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Speaker 1: whoever went there was gonna be successful, like like Kyle

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00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: was going to get his guy. That that I do

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Speaker 1: disagree with you a little on that that. I do

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Speaker 1: think train Lance was the guy because I don't see again,

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Speaker 1: I don't see why he would have gone the other way,

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Speaker 1: Like why why mac Jones never made sense? No? And

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Speaker 1: I do wonder I don't know if Chef would actually

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Speaker 1: answer that, but or or Lombardi or Chris Simms, but

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Speaker 1: I would love to know why anybody thought mac Jones

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Speaker 1: were the first place. And nobody, by the way there

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00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: was like, oh, the Lions might want a quarterback or

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Speaker 1: the Panthers might want to none. The reason you know

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Speaker 1: mac Jones was never their guy was because they could

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Speaker 1: have taken him at twelve. They unless you're like the

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Speaker 1: Raiders and you like to reach for for players that

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Speaker 1: play for Alabama. But I mean mac Jones really would

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Speaker 1: have been there at twelve. He was there at fifteen. Um.

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Speaker 1: I do want to say I was stunned that the

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Speaker 1: Broncos didn't go quarterback. Well they do. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: that that is an interesting one. Um. I wonder if

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Speaker 1: I guess that's a that's a possibility, and they got

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Speaker 1: Bridgewater Bridgewater versus Lock. But um, let me quickly do

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Speaker 1: two minutes here on the Dallas Cowboys, who I think

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Speaker 1: have had an awful draft, and um, I mean maybe

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Speaker 1: awful is strong, but they're doing the Carolina Panthers thing

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Speaker 1: from last year. Let's only draft defensive guys. I get

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Speaker 1: that you need defensive defense. Stinks, but you know, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: this is a team that had vander Esh. I know

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Speaker 1: they lost Shawn Lee, but they had vander Esh and

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Speaker 1: jalen um Smith, the linebacker from Notre Dame, and they

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Speaker 1: signed Keian O'Neil in free agency. He played safety and

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Speaker 1: they announced we're moving him the linebacker. So you now

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Speaker 1: have vander Esh Smith and Neil a linebacker. What do

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Speaker 1: you do at eleven? You draft a linebacker? And Michael

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00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: Parsons like what, I just don't understand that at all.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense. It feels like Jerry trying to

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Speaker 1: get a splashy guy. Michael Parsons, of course a big name.

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Speaker 1: And LaVar Arrington, who does the show after this, is

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Speaker 1: close with LaVar Arrington, is close with Michael Parsons and

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Speaker 1: I think we've talked about it here. Parsons immensely talented,

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Speaker 1: top ten talent, had some questionable stuff off the field.

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Speaker 1: There was alleged hazing incident. I know it's in the past.

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Speaker 1: There was an incident in high school where he basically

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Speaker 1: started a riot in the high school cafeteria. And again,

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Speaker 1: I know he was a young, impressionable teenager. Did people

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Speaker 1: do dumb things? I don't know. We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: I don't love what the Cowboys have done. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they got better at all. Um. You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't think they're the team to beat in the NFC East.

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Speaker 1: I would definitely bet the under nine win nine and

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Speaker 1: a half on the Cowboys. By the way that numbers inflated,

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Speaker 1: there's no way they were nine and a half win team.

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Speaker 1: Um and uh, I'm out on them. I think the

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Speaker 1: Giants win the division. But we'll come back to that

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Speaker 1: this summer, all right, coming up next to here Unfoxed

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I can't tell what people disagreed with me.

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Speaker 1: More on the Packers and Aaron Rodgers. They should break

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Speaker 1: up and have a divorce. Packers to trade him or

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Speaker 1: the Niners did get their guy. That's next on Fox

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Speaker 1: Yes Nelson Report limitations apply. I thought we'd open the

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Speaker 1: second hour with some Yankees talk, or maybe Jayson Tatum

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Speaker 1: dropping sixty, tying Larry Bird for the Celtics record. Now,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe we'll do Lebron returning from the longest absence

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Speaker 1: of his career to the Lakers. Last night they lost.

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Speaker 1: Now we're not doing that either. The NFL Draft, Come on, people,

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Speaker 1: it's the biggestorian sports. I'm told the Kentucky Derby's happening today.

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Speaker 1: But much like the Oscars last week, I had no clue.

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Speaker 1: I'm locked in on the draft. We spent way too

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Speaker 1: much time doing mock drafts and my my h a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. People love them. My two first round

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Speaker 1: the NFL mock draft, Yes that is correct. One year

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Speaker 1: from now, it goes up on Fox Sports. I think tomorrow. Um,

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Speaker 1: people love the draft, you know, it's it sells hope.

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Speaker 1: And you know for teams like oh, I don't know

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Speaker 1: my New York Jets, we're hopeful that Zach Wilson's the guy.

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Speaker 1: The Mormon Mahomes were hopeful for a team like the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, who basically went into uh this offseason with

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Speaker 1: high hopes, Oh, we're gonna go make a big splash

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Speaker 1: like the dopey GM they got there is talking about

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Speaker 1: how they're gonna go big game hunting, and then Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson was supposedly in the mix. They ended up with

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton and Nick Foles, and it's you know, you

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Speaker 1: look at that entering your season, you're like, oh, what

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Speaker 1: are we doing tonight? T g I Fridays, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go to Applebee's. And then in the draft, Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: falls and you're like, oh, we go and Sizzler, let's

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Speaker 1: grab Justin Fields now. I'll be honest, I don't think

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Speaker 1: field starts. And we have been over this okay, Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield did not start as a rookie. Took him a

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Speaker 1: couple of games to get Entyrod Taylor got hurt. Justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert did not start to what did not start? Yes,

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Speaker 1: he was coming off an injury. Jared Gough did not start.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson did not start. Um, yeah, you go on

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Speaker 1: down the list like a lot of these guys did

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Speaker 1: not instantly jump in the league. I don't believe Fields

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Speaker 1: will be the starter, Gavin. We are an agreement there, right.

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Speaker 1: Fields probably won't start, it will be done, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean there's no rush to get Fields out there. Like

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Speaker 1: is he ready? Of course, I think he's closer to

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Speaker 1: being ready than Trey Lance. When you can have a

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Speaker 1: mentor like Andy Dalton, you take him up on or

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Speaker 1: does he does he lean more to retard Folds? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It's possible. Justin Fields won't even be a dove.

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Speaker 1: Bear said he's QB one. So yeah, it's the Dalton.

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Speaker 1: It's the Andy Dalton show. Um. And I'm sure Justin

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Speaker 1: Fields is not clamoring to get out there. It's not

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Speaker 1: like he's got a great arsenal of weapons. I do

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Speaker 1: like the tight end commit from Notre Dame. I like,

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Speaker 1: obviously Allen Robinson. They'll get the kid Um tarik Um Cohen.

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Speaker 1: He's back from injury. Montgomery showed well last year. Ultimately

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Speaker 1: Fields will be the guy. I think what's interesting there

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Speaker 1: is does Justin Fields save the job of the head

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Speaker 1: coach at GM, because if not, like Yavin, if they

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Speaker 1: go four and twelve or four and thirteen I guess,

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Speaker 1: or five and twelve. Remember seventeen games this year, I

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Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna keep no. And my thought, yea

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Speaker 1: or nag. My thought when that pick was made was, well,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Pace is doing whatever he can to save his job.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't care that they just gave away their first

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Speaker 1: round pick next year because he's not going to be

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Speaker 1: there if he gets fired. So here's the crappy thing.

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Speaker 1: If the coach and GM get booted, Justin Fields no

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Speaker 1: longer has an advocate in the front office, the new

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Speaker 1: guys gonna come in. I didn't draft him. That's what

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Speaker 1: happened the Jets. Uh, they bring in Douglas. He didn't

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Speaker 1: draft Sam Donald. He had no commitment to him. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say Fields got a raw deal, but

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Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be like a jail and hurt situation.

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Speaker 1: What if we can start the Ryan Davis Chicago narrative

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Speaker 1: right now, he's the next coach of the Bears. It's

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Speaker 1: fun to do guy. Interesting. I mean I thought of

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Speaker 1: that that that's next level stuff. We did. This is

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer last year. Like, I mean, we'll get to

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer and the Jags in a second. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: you could maybe Pencil and Lincoln Riley or whoever the

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Speaker 1: Bears get. But you know, I'm hopeful for Fields, but

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Speaker 1: the reality is there. I mean, there's a strong chance

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Speaker 1: that there's a new GM there and then they consider

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Speaker 1: pressing that we said. But um, I do think it

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Speaker 1: helps to be in Chicago where the bar isn't exactly

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Speaker 1: the highest for the quarterback. I mean, what, Jay Cutler

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Speaker 1: is your best modern day Jay Cutler is the best

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Speaker 1: guy they've had there in like twenty years. But Rex

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Speaker 1: Grossman was under center when they went to a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: which is comical. Um. Yeah, I absolutely love the draft.

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Speaker 1: I almost want to open it up and take calls. Gavin.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we will, but there's just so many

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Speaker 1: ways to go. We're gonna do Aaron Rodgers in a second,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do some packers. Um, we're gonna do a

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Speaker 1: little forty niners. I do want to quickly say I

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Speaker 1: mentioned Sam Donald and h a guy we brought on

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Speaker 1: the show before. Warren Sharp made an interesting point. So

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Speaker 1: last year Sam Donald, his coach was Adam Gaze, his

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Speaker 1: running back was Frank Gore. His receivers were Brashad Perryman

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Speaker 1: and Jamison Crowder. Okay, Sam Donald now goes to an

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator named Joe Brady. Go look up Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: and you'll find Joe Brady attached to his hip. He

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Speaker 1: goes from Frank Gore to Christian McCaffrey. He goes from

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Speaker 1: Perryman and crowd Or to Robbie Anderson and d J. Moore.

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Speaker 1: And the Carolina Panthers went out and drafted Terrence Marshall

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Speaker 1: from l s U, Big Kid. I liked him. I

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Speaker 1: thought the Jets would have a shot at him in

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Speaker 1: the second round. They got Elijah More. I'm happy with that. Um,

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Speaker 1: I just want to go out there like Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: is going to be successful in Carolina. Is he gonna

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Is he gonna win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go crazy I don't know about the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but I think Sam Donald is gonna have a strong year.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, Matt Rule is a bet on coach.

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Speaker 1: Like I, I like what this guy does. He kept

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Speaker 1: things close. You know, they didn't end the year well

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Speaker 1: once Bridgewater got hurt, like they were a bit bit

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Speaker 1: of a dumpster fire and they got destroyed by the

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers twice. But they are going to keep some things

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Speaker 1: close down. The defense needs work, but I think Caroline

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Speaker 1: is a bet on team next year, and one more

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Speaker 1: bet On team, Gavin. I'm just gonna remind people the

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals with Joe Burrow started six and two against

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Speaker 1: the spread last year. Okay, I know I worked with

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Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz. I did the draft for Fox Sports. Jeff

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Speaker 1: was like, I can't believe they're passing on Penay School. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I get that. Jamaar Chase, Tyler Boyd and Tee Higgins,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be in every game. They are gonna be

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Speaker 1: backdoor champs available to cover almost every week with that offense.

843
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean last year they had a J Green over

844
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: Chase and aj Green was like thirty two I think,

845
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: and starting to show where and Terry was like doing

846
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: nothing and Joe Burrow was still making magic happen with

847
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: the comebacks. He's gonna keep them in games. Man, I'm

848
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: just these are things to file away. Carolina, you want

849
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: to look to bet on them. If they're catching or touchdown,

850
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: it's probably a bet on Carolina. If the Bengals are catching, uh,

851
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: basically high numbers against anybody except the Ravens. The Ravens

852
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: beat them by like a combined seventy to six last

853
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 1: year Burrow rookie. The Ravens defense was a nasty at times. Um,

854
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna be looking to to put some money

855
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: on Carolina and Cindcinnati a lot next year. Now, the

856
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: team I really love is the Jags. Will get to

857
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: that next segment. But I want to revisit the Packers

858
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers. So obviously the Aaron Rodgers situation goes viral.

859
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: It is the story of the draft Thursday. What happened

860
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: late Thursday night the GM who Aaron Rodgers basically accused

861
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: of lying and not being truthful and untrustworthy. He came

862
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: out to talk to the media. Brian Guta Kuntz, did

863
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: I say his name right. I did. Oh my gosh,

864
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: I can't. I usually just say goot coonst. Is that

865
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: that it? Gouda coonst. Gouda const came out and talked

866
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: to the media. Here's what he had to say about

867
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: trading Aaron Rodgers. He's our quarterback, he's our leader. We've

868
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: been working through this for you know, a little while now,

869
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: and you know, I just think it may take some time,

870
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: but you know, he's he's the guy that kind of

871
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: makes this thing go. So he's he gives us the

872
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: best chance to win, and we're gonna work towards that end.

873
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: Do you think Aaron's ever gonna play again for you guys?

874
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: How can you convince him to come back and play

875
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: for you out there? He he seems to be, at

876
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: least if the reports are accurate, that that he has

877
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: no interest in doing that. Yeah. I'm not gonna speak

878
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: for Aaron obviously, but no, I think obviously we've got

879
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: a really good team and I do think he'll play

880
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: for us again, and we're gonna, like I said, we're

881
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: gonna work towards that, and we've been working towards that

882
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: on a number of different fronts. Is there any scenario

883
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: that you can see trading Aaron Rodgers this offseason. No, no,

884
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 1: I appreciate the question, but no, we're not gonna trade

885
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Okay. Joe Montana when he was at his prime,

886
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: dominant with the Foid and Honors dynasty, four super Bowls,

887
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 1: never lost the Super Bowl, finished his career in Kansas City,

888
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: Steve Young behind him. Montana got hurt to move on

889
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: Tom Brady New England. I mean goodness, gracious, we could

890
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: dedicate a month's worth of shows to what the hell

891
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: happened there? Sick of being beaten down by Bill Belichick

892
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: in the quarterback room, Bill check drafting Garoppolo, Who would

893
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: follow who? The plan was to follow? Brady? Tom Brady

894
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: Tampa Super Bowl didn't end his career in New England

895
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: right five, Green Bay's legend kept waffling. I'm gonna retire,

896
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I want to come back. I'm not done.

897
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: They had Aaron Rodgers. Far didn't like that. Far ends

898
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: up with the Jets, and then I forget what happened

899
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: with that, like massage and cell phone photos. I don't remember.

900
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: He did something really dumb. And then he goes to

901
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: Minnesota and he nearly got to a Super Bowl with

902
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: the Vikings through an interception I think in overtime Gavin

903
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: against Saints. Y. Yeah, that one hurt. Listen. I remember

904
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: the bad beats I had the Vikings in that one.

905
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: I don't remember all the winds. I just remember the

906
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: losses because there are so few of them. You know.

907
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: That's a line from as Very True. Yes, Wolf of

908
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: Wall Street, M Leonardo DiCaprio, he's awesome. Um. And then

909
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: finally Peyton Manning. Now no again, another injury situation, the

910
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: next surgery, but they go one, they win one game.

911
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: We can get Andrew Luck. Let's move on. Listen. It

912
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: is difficult. It is extremely tough for fans to see

913
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: a guy you rooted for for a decade or more

914
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: move on. But I just named Joe Montana, Peyton Manning,

915
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Brett Farve. Those are four of the twelve

916
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: greatest quarterbacks to ever play the sport, and they did

917
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: not end with the team they started. I think four

918
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: of the top twelve, right, I mean, the only guy

919
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: who's questionable is Farve. Top twelve. I would say he

920
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: has to be right. Oh uh, you know, hey, might

921
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: as well throw up in there. Drew Brees did end

922
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Um Eli Manning, No, I'm not gonna

923
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: even joke. But bottom line is, don't be surprised if

924
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: Rogers moves on. I don't care that. Goudacons said, we're

925
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: not trading Aaron Rodgers like scoffing, Like you drafted Jordan Love,

926
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: you got your guy, what do you need me for?

927
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: That's basically Aaron Rodgers think you want to keep me? Okay,

928
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: well extend me, and apparently they said no. Now, the

929
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: story Jade Glazer told on Fox Sports Radio the draft

930
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: night um was essentially in the twenty draft, basically the Packers,

931
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, they had their board, they had their scouts,

932
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: everybody's own zoom, and all of a sudden, the GM

933
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: steps away, and I guess takes a call like, oh

934
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: wait a minute, Jordan Loves falling, nobody's drafting Jordan's Love,

935
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: and goodacoonst basically calls an audible himself, did not tell

936
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: the head coach, the scouts or anyone, and then he

937
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: just picks Jordan Love and you're like, what the hell?

938
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: What what just happened? And up apparently goodacoons one rogue

939
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: and made his decision and now by proxy, all those guys,

940
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: the scouts, the head coach, they either look like they're

941
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: aligned with Gouda Coos or they have to go to

942
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: Rogers and be like, yo, I know I didn't. I

943
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: wasn't part of this. I didn't want to do this

944
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: to get in with Rogers. And that's why I think

945
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: that's why Rogers has identified just Goodacons as a guy

946
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 1: he doesn't trust. You've just gone to the NFC title game.

947
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: It still doesn't make sense a year later, like what

948
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: are you doing? I get drafting for the future, but

949
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: if you do it in the first round, your quarterback

950
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: is gonna be pissed. And if you do it in

951
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: the first round after you went to the NFC title game,

952
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be ticked. I mean, listen, I made a

953
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: case that there's problems in Land. It's clear there's problems

954
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: in Green Bay, which is a more toxic situation right now, Gavin,

955
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: Green Bay or San Francisco, who's got more of an

956
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: offseason trouble ahead. You would have to a Green Bay

957
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: without a doubt. I mean, that was the biggest bomb

958
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: show I've ever seen on Draft Day, next to the

959
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 1: tounsiled gas mask. But that one was comical. This Aaron

960
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: Rodgers thing was calculated. It was full of spite. You know.

961
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: It reminds me of I don't know if you watch

962
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: Curb your Enthusiasm, But okay, Well a big thing is

963
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: Larry David opens up a spite store, just a rival

964
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: coffee shop across the street, just to spite the guy

965
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't like. And that's how Aaron Rodgers, you know,

966
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: is in with his own organization. Crazy stuff. Yeah, and

967
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: this is the NFL. It's wild. It's great for people

968
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: in the media. It gives us a lot of options

969
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: to talk about. UM. And it's interesting what they did

970
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: because in the first round, you think wide receiver, No,

971
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: they went corner right. Well, I'll say this, I I

972
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: kind of defend that. If you remember the Bucks Packers, Um,

973
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in the fourth quarter just kept picking on

974
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: the kid King, the cornerback, I think Kevin King. Oh

975
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: every play it was that pass interference or beat him

976
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: on the inside. He got roasted. And I think they

977
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: had visions of that all offseason. So they said, let's

978
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: go out and get a cornerback. And I'm fine, I'm

979
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: okay with that. Um, they did get the kid a

980
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: Marie Rodgers from Clemson. If you want to watch a

981
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: Marie Rogers, I'm sure there's a highlight reel of it.

982
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: Still one of my favorite games in the last decade

983
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: in college football Clemson Ohio State. Not this past year,

984
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: but the playoff game two years ago where you know,

985
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: High States dominating and Trevor Lawrence leads them back. Trevor

986
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: Lawrence has an amazing drive at the end of the

987
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: game to win it, and a Marie Rogers against an

988
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: Ohio State team loaded loaded with talent, has one play

989
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: read just break. He runs right through a Jeff Okuda

990
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: tackle and you're like, holy cow. Okuda end up being

991
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: top to pick and Marie Rodgers just runs right through him. Apparently,

992
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: this kid Rodgers is awesome and Aaron Rodgers will surely

993
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: like him if if he plays another game for the Packers.

994
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,600
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998
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Speaker 1: a Leapa right. Isn't that her name? Yes? Thank you goodness, gracious,

999
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: I think I thought, I think I liked this singer.

1000
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 1: You've got some decent stuff. Um, I think I've admitted

1001
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: this before. It's kind of embarrassing. I don't really care.

1002
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: I keep it real with you guys. I get a

1003
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: lot of my music these days from Instagram stories. People

1004
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 1: will put UM a song to something and I'll be like, Oh,

1005
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: I don't know that song, let me go download it.

1006
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome. Um, we got an hour and a half.

1007
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: Let's to the show. A couple of good guests coming up.

1008
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: Greg Bdard stopping by to talk about why the hell

1009
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: of the Patriots like Mac Jones in the first round,

1010
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 1: he'stopping by in five minutes. No Belichick going full on Bama.

1011
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: Interesting that Bell. I don't want to say Belichick is

1012
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: thrown in the towel. He's sixty nine, he just drafted

1013
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: two dudes from Alabama from his buddy Nick Saban. He

1014
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: spent like a drunken sailor in free agency. I don't know.

1015
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure internally he'd never admit this, but

1016
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: internally he has to be just devastated that Tom Brady

1017
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl and he didn't even make the playoffs.

1018
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: And now I'm sure you guys have seen the photos

1019
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: circulating online where it's like, how about that Patriots quarterback

1020
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: room and there's Cam Newton shredded looking chiseled, rocked up

1021
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: with the abs in this and just like really ripped shirtless,

1022
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: and then there's Mac Jones shirtless with a cigar in

1023
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 1: his mouth after Alabama won the title. I'm assuming, Gavin,

1024
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: you've seen that picture that's gotta be Mac Jones from

1025
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: like twenty nineteen or whatever, when two of one. There's

1026
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: no way that that is the Mac Jones body after

1027
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: um winning the title this past year because Mac Jones

1028
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: just looked Doughey, uh, no definition at all, Like he

1029
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: doesn't ever do abs. I mean, it's there's just no

1030
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: way that's a recent photo. Maybe he's still got some

1031
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: baby fat from like when he was like a nineteen

1032
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: year old and he was doing the you know, the

1033
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: freshman fifteen eating pizza at you know, two am, three

1034
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: nights a week, which is what everybody did. Um. All right,

1035
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: let's go to the worst of first happens every year

1036
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Last year Washington where they they were

1037
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: the Washington Football Club. Last year they went from worst

1038
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: to first. And again I know that that was kind

1039
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: of a weird situation because everybody in the division was terrible.

1040
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: That being said, I like another division. I'd like another

1041
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: worst of first and I don't know if the winner

1042
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: is going to be over five D and that's the

1043
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jags in the a f C South. Let me

1044
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: make a case briefly against the other teams. I don't

1045
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: need to say anything about Houston as of now. The

1046
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: Texans may not have Deshaun Watson. Even if they have

1047
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, they're gonna be very bad. They have the

1048
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: lowest wind total with the Detroit Lions in the league.

1049
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Speaker 1: By the way, they drafted Davis Mills, who was the

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00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: number one quarterback in this high school class in like

1051
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:21,479
Speaker 1: twenty I don't seen, or seventeen probably, but he said

1052
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: four knee surgeries since graduating high school. Not the same guy.

1053
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: Um talented, but no, and whoever they start, the Texans

1054
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 1: are going to be terrible. I believe, as I said

1055
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: earlier in the show, the Indianapolis Colts are gonna be overvalued. Yes,

1056
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: I like the coach, Yes, I like the scheme. No,

1057
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: I don't like the left tackle situation, and I'm out.

1058
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm a believer in Wentz, I

1059
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: know he did well with Frank right back in the day,

1060
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: but a lot has happened since then. Frank Reich very

1061
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: good coach. He did well with Rivers. I don't know

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00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: it's going to be as much of a slam dunk

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00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz. Yes, I like Jonathan Taylor. I like

1064
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: the young receiver out of USC Pittman. Um. I just

1065
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: I don't and I did bet on them, and I

1066
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: want against the Bills in the playoffs they covered. I

1067
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: just don't love right now the Colts. Everybody has them

1068
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: winning the division. And finally you got the Tennessee Titans,

1069
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: who lose their offensive coordinator and Arthur Smith. They lost

1070
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: I think they lost one tight end, they lost one

1071
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: receiver in Corey Davis. And the key here is Derrick

1072
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: Henry's situation. They lost Jon Smith of the Patriots. Thank you, Gavin.

1073
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry led the league in rushes two years in

1074
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: a row. Last year he had three hundred and seventy

1075
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: eight carries. Folks, this is not two thousand and four.

1076
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: You can't do that to running backs and expect them

1077
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: to bounce back. I would be all over all Derrick

1078
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: Henry unders next year. He even looked slow in the

1079
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: playoff game. By the way, remember he pushed hard in

1080
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: the a final month of the regular season to break

1081
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: the record, uh not break the record, break two thousand yards.

1082
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: So if I look at all those teams struggling, and

1083
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: then I look at Jacksonville, which finally gets a quarterback,

1084
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: has a new coach in Urban Meyer, and there is

1085
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: a new coach bump. You guys know that there's a

1086
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: rookie coach bump. That is a real thing. Kevin Stefanski

1087
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: last year, Rookie coach playoffs, two years ago, La Fleur playoffs,

1088
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: three years ago. Frank Reich playoffs. Like it's a real thing.

1089
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: Rookie coaches can come into the league. They're hungry. Opponents

1090
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: aren't as familiar with them. I love the E. T.

1091
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: N Pick. I like the receiver Channault Shark, Like they've

1092
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: got talent on that team. Now the defense can't stop anybody,

1093
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: but the offense will score. And I like the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1094
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: I think there plus a thousand Gavon twelve hundred to

1095
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: win the division. That that's not an awful bet. The

1096
01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: stat of the Year Trevor Lawrence did not lose a

1097
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: game in the regular season in high school or college.

1098
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: He only lost. Trevor Lawrence, he only lost a game

1099
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: in the playoffs the state championship his final year, like

1100
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: a crazy upset. You can go read about the game.

1101
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,959
Speaker 1: It was a good one. And then at Clemson three

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01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: year starter, never lost a game in the regular season,

1103
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: only lost in the championship to L. S. U. Burrow

1104
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: and then last year in the semi Sohouse State. He

1105
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: has never lost a regular season football game in his life.

1106
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean that he's gonna be awesome with

1107
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: the Jags. I'm just telling you, this guy is really

1108
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: freaking good, you know, Trevor Lawrence. I I'm so excited.

1109
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: Hate to say it. I'm gonna be a Jacks fan

1110
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports

1111
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,440
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01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,680
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01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,760
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1114
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: back here on Fox Sports Radio. Our next guest, you

1115
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: know him. He's been on plenty of times. He's the

1116
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: guy if you if you ever wonder what's going on

1117
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: with the Patriots, just go to Greg Badard social media

1118
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: feed and his website, Boston Sports Journal, and you'll find

1119
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: out and hopefully Greg can help us make sense of

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Speaker 1: this Mac Jones affinity. Greg, how are you man? Good?

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01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: What's up? J Mac? You know, I'm I'm looking at

1122
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: the a f C. East. I see the Jets gotta

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01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: do quarterback, the Dolphins have to. Everybody's chasing the Buffalo Bills,

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01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: and I don't Are the Patriots going to be in

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01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: the cellar in the division this year? I I highly doubt.

1126
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: I mean we're a long ways off from that. But um, look,

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01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: they have a lot of a lot of different pieces

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01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: putting even in this draft, uh this season. And I

1129
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: am not the biggest fans of one year turnaround with

1130
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: a lot of roster shuffling, but look, there's no question

1131
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: that they are much more talented team than they were

1132
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: at the end of last season. And now the big

1133
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: question is how quickly can it come together? And and

1134
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: who's going to be the quarterback? Who's who's going to

1135
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: make it go? Do you see a scenario where Mac

1136
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: Jones beats out Cam Newton? I mean Cam was with

1137
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,479
Speaker 1: McDaniels and Belichick last year. I would assume Cam wins

1138
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: a job right, uh, for opening day? Probably. I think

1139
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: at some point in time, Um, I think at some

1140
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: point in time, Mac Jones overtakes. I think it's just look,

1141
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna become readily available to all of us, and

1142
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: we will be out there a training camp and we

1143
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: will be charting every pass and it will be it

1144
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 1: will be apparent to all of us who is running

1145
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 1: this offense better. Now do do I think Mac Jones

1146
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: could do it in training camp in the preseason? Yeah?

1147
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: I do. But um, outside of some other weird move

1148
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: down the line, like thet is releasing Garoppolo and him

1149
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 1: being available for cheap, then I think it's probably Cam

1150
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: Newton week one to say week four. But look, the

1151
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: bottom line is j Mack cam Newton cannot operate. And

1152
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: this is what I wrote after they took Jones. Cam

1153
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: Newton cannot operate the Patriots offense the way it is

1154
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: designed to be operated. He just can't. He can't. He

1155
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: he doesn't do the pre snap checks. He doesn't know

1156
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: when he gets back to pass what's going to happen.

1157
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: Where is Mac Jones? Repeatedly at Alabama, he he made

1158
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: upper level quarterbacking place and we did not very rarely.

1159
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: Remember early Seattle, we saw a couple of these plays,

1160
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: but it was very rare last year that that Cam

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01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: made any of those plays. And it's just if you

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01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: can't operate the Patriots offense the way it's designed to

1163
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: be run, it's almost like, what's the point. So at

1164
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: some point in time, it's not gonna work here early

1165
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: with Cam and they're gonna have to go to Jones. Wow.

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01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,439
Speaker 1: Now this seems almost like an indict And I don't

1167
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: want to push back too hard, but I mean Belichick

1168
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: could have just said, yeah, Cam is it good at it?

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01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: But they resigned him, they brought him back. Yeah, I

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01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't look too much else that. I mean, you know, look,

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01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: the whole Cam thing, it's not it's not like Cam

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01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,919
Speaker 1: had any other shooters, um the past two off seasons. UM,

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01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: given the money that he signed for last year and

1174
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: and again this year. UM. And and look they needed

1175
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: a placeholder. UM. We those of us who really know

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01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: what's going on. I knew the charts did him wasn't

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01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: on the radar at all in terms of the quarterback composition,

1178
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: So they really didn't have a quarterback. And the candid

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01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: and signing was just, hey, break glass in case of emergency,

1180
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: if you know, if things can't work, we need someone.

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01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: And we liked Cam. It's year two with him. Um

1182
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: it's he knows where the facility is. They don't have

1183
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: to start over from scratch like and he's a good guy.

1184
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: And you can play when football with Cam with a

1185
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: better surrounding cast. But how much winning football? To me,

1186
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: it's well with the new schedule. What it's you know,

1187
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: ten and seven is probably the ceiling. Can mac Jones

1188
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: get you another game or two? Possibly? It depends on

1189
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 1: how quickly he gets everything. Yeah, I'm curious where you are.

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01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: Like Belichick and saving famously close relationships, Belichick's had some options.

1191
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: He could have drafted a Jim Karen uh, he could

1192
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: have traded up for Tua, but he gets mac Jill.

1193
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: Should we read anything into this or or or not?

1194
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: Really like, does this mean that this is like Belichick's

1195
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: favorite Alabama quarterback ever to come out? Or did we

1196
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: didn't need we didn't need anybody we had Tom Brady. Well,

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01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean, in my opinion, in my lay opinion, I

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01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: think that, um, you know that that Mac Jones to me,

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01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: in terms of what the Patriots do offensively. Um, he's

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01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: by far the best Alabama quarterback to come around. Um,

1201
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not even close. Look. I you know,

1202
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: when I studied the quarterbacks on film this offseason, I

1203
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: didn't want to like Mac Jones. I don't watch much

1204
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 1: college football. I don't have the time during the season,

1205
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: and so my initial instinct was he's just another Alabama quarterback.

1206
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: He's a j McCarron, he's Greg McElroy. I mean, I

1207
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: could play quarterback at Alabama football games, you know, with

1208
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: the amount of talent that's around. But when I turned

1209
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: on the tape j mc you know, I was impressed.

1210
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,439
Speaker 1: I was like, I had him as my third rated

1211
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: quarterback in this class, behind Lawrence and Wilson. I had

1212
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: him ahead of Fields and Lance. In my opinion, I

1213
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: think that the three quarterbacks Lance, Fields and and Bac

1214
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: Jones landed where they needed to and have their best chance. Now.

1215
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: I think Justin Fields is in a tough position because

1216
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: Matt Maggie and you know, Ryan Pace could be fired

1217
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: after the season now he's starting over and all that stuff.

1218
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: But Trey Lance, I think his mobility and his tools

1219
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: will work well with Kyle Shanahan's offense justin fields should

1220
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: work well. At some point in time, He's gotten mechanics

1221
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: that he needs to clean up. Um in Matt Magi's offense.

1222
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: And hopefully those guys aren't too desperate and just throw

1223
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: him to the Wolves before he's ready, But they probably

1224
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 1: will and they'll all get fired. And and mac Jones,

1225
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: he would be a disaster with a lot of coaches

1226
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: and a lot of schemes, but he went to the

1227
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: right scheme. Josh McDaniels, Bill Belichick, they this is a

1228
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: team where the offensive line is going to be excellent.

1229
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: They have a really good running game, they have two

1230
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 1: now too tight ends, they signed two receivers. They're gonna

1231
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: have a really good defense. Um, you know, he mac

1232
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: Jones is not going to be asked to do too much.

1233
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 1: It's almost gonna sort of be like Alabama. And now

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01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: the question to me is when does he get the

1235
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: offense and and how quickly does he overtake Cam Newton.

1236
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: All right, now, Greg, I'm going off Patriots here. Don't

1237
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 1: hate me for this question. Um well, actually, you cut,

1238
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: You've covered the Packers before I get to the Niners quickly.

1239
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: On Aaron Rodgers, what any guesses as as to the

1240
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: result here Aaron Rodgers threatening I'll retire. You'll have to

1241
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: get back a lot of money. Aaron Rodgers threatening, I

1242
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: don't want to go back there. I'm not playing again.

1243
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: Any guesses is to the resolution? Uh? Yes, I covered

1244
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: the Packers. Um. I wrote this shortly after their playoff loss,

1245
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: that I said, Aaron Rodgers will make a power apply

1246
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: this offseason. I mean it was it was predictable. Um.

1247
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 1: I I could tell that he would come at the

1248
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: end of the day, after cooling off and everything and

1249
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: talking to people, he would come to the realization or

1250
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: at least in his mind that the Packers have failed

1251
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: him for the last time and this is not the

1252
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: way he's going to end his career. Uh. I think

1253
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: I think we we get into and I went, I

1254
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: went to the whole far thing. Um, I think we

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Speaker 1: get to a point where Aaron Rodgers is if he

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Speaker 1: hasn't retired, he's he's basically told the Packers he will retire. Um.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he alas this year. I think

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01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: I think it sits out this year with retirement, and

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01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: then uh, he that he's gonna he's gonna basically go

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01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: from the Far Playbook, he's gonna he's gonna retire and

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01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna make them basically create him at some point

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Speaker 1: Far Playbook. Huh, oh man, I love that because far

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01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 1: of of course, the waffling on retiring ended up with

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01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: the Jets and Vikings and then Red real quick. Um

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01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: and listen, feel free to disagree with me here. Um,

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01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: did Mike Shanahan get his guy? Or do you believe

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01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,520
Speaker 1: every person out there, from Chris Simms whose buddies with Shanahan,

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01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: from Schefter who obviously knows the family well, and from

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01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,719
Speaker 1: Lombardi all of them said they traded up for mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: Who do you believe forty Niners wanted? Because it sounds

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01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 1: like from Rappaport at the front office and the scouts

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Speaker 1: like Trey Lance, but Shanahan like mac Jones. They I

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01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: think they changed their mind. I think if if the draft,

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01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: if they made uh, if the draft was right after

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01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: the trade, I think mac Jones would be with But

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01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: I think of in time time to think about things, um,

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01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 1: you know, sort of look at the mirror that people

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01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: were putting up in terms of Shanahan, and you know

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01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: if and I do think It's true that Mac Jones

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01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 1: fits what he does more. And I think Shanahan thought

1281
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 1: about it and said, you know, I need to I

1282
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 1: need to up my scheme and and and become more

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01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 1: versatile and things like that. And I think at the

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01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 1: end of the day, you combine that with the front

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01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: office or at least the scouts who pushed for Trey Lance,

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01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: I think he changed his mind. And it'll be interesting

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01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:38,600
Speaker 1: to see how this works out. Because Kyle Shanahan's a

1288
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 1: smart guy and he knows he knows what he's doing.

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01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: I think he should have stuck with his gut. But

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01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Oh. I like that all right?

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01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: Greg Bdard follow him on social media and he's at

1292
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: the Boston Sports Journal. Great outlet, the best one for

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01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: Patriots stuff. Greg, enjoy the weekend the rest of the draft.

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01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: Thanks buddy, appreciate Greg Bdard. I feel I just feel

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01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: smarter after listening to him for a few minutes. There

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01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 1: um nuanced stuff with thet I like that, and it's

1297
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers stuff. You know, he was in Green Bay

1298
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: covered him. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk

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1302
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: Greg Badard, good stuff. If you miss that, you should

1303
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: listen to the podcast. Just two interesting things jumped out.

1304
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,919
Speaker 1: He thinks the Rogers power play means no more Packers

1305
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: for Rogers. Another Green Bay reporter just went on a

1306
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: radio station and it went out there on social media

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01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: that there's less than a five percent chance Packer Packers

1308
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 1: have Brett ut Aaron Rodgers under center next year. So again,

1309
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: it's early. Maybe everybody's overreacting. Perhaps cooler heads will prevailed,

1310
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: but as of right now, it's sounding like no Aaron

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01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,839
Speaker 1: Rodgers in Green Bay. And again, if you missed it earlier,

1312
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 1: Joe Montana. The idea of Joe Montana not ending his

1313
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: career in San fran was crazy until it ended in Casey.

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01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: All right, we saw it with Brett Farve. He went

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01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: to the Jets, and then he went to the Vikings,

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01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, he was the Colts, and then he ended

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01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: in Denver. I know there was an injury there in

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01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 1: the next surgery, but it happens. You know, legends don't

1319
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: always end up where you think they're gonna end up.

1320
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: Like football is weird, like that Tom Brady who thought

1321
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: Tom Brady would go to Tampa and then win a

1322
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So this idea. Don't rule it out that

1323
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is with the Denver Broncos. Now I put

1324
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: this out there. You guys know, Gavins a gambler. I

1325
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: gamble a little over a month ago and I tweeted

1326
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: it out at the time. I took the Broncos plus

1327
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: I think forty eight hundred to win the Super Bowl. Okay,

1328
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl at the time, you know, a

1329
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: long shot. You know. I love their off season. This

1330
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: is a playoff team. Even with Bridgewater under center. I

1331
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: think he beats out Drew Lock and they have awesome

1332
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: everybody's back healthy on offense, and the defense should be

1333
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: really good. Fngio got another one of his corners from Chicago,

1334
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 1: from Chicago when he was with the Bears. He's got

1335
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: Callahan in the slot. Like they're gonna be a very

1336
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: tough defense, chub and von Miller healthy. Just keep an

1337
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: eye on Denver. I don't think they're gonna win the division.

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01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: And I know Gavin doesn't like hearing this because of

1339
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: the Chargers. And listen, yes, I get it. I just

1340
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: think it's massively overrated. I watched I kept hearing about

1341
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,839
Speaker 1: these wide receivers and the weapons. Jerry Jerry Judy dropped

1342
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: more passes than like any other receiver in the like

1343
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: in the league last year. Can I just blame them

1344
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: all on Drew Lock and you can't. That's the thing

1345
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: in that and happened some of their wins, the wines

1346
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 1: against the Chargers, like, I mean, you saw that game.

1347
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: That game ended on an official like, I don't know,

1348
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: there's alway the sexy teams and everyone wants to be

1349
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: out front on it. I just don't think a team

1350
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: without a quarterback is they have two backup quarterbacks. They

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01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: have Drew Lock and Teddy Bridgewater. Basically, if they get

1352
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, that's a different, completely right discussion. Rogers, well,

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01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 1: I mean I would say if they got Rogers their

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01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: second after the Chiefs, right, Yeah, I mean it's hard

1355
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: to say that the reigning m v P next to

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01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, of course. And remember, um, you

1357
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: know there was a learning curve for Brady at one point.

1358
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 1: I think the Bucks were eight and five, eight and four.

1359
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: They were not amazing, and it was a weird offseason,

1360
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 1: and he had a new city and a bunch of

1361
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 1: new stuff. But again, we saw Jameis Winston lead Dampa

1362
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 1: to what seven and nine and then they win the

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01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. It's not out of the realm that Drew

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01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 1: lock is not as good as James Winston. Um. And

1365
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 1: we do have question marks about the coach too. I

1366
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: don't know much about We don't offensive coordinator like Aaron

1367
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: Rodgers will just steamroll that guy. Um. All right, let's

1368
01:15:56,280 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 1: quickly go interesting trend. So the Bengals take Jamaar Chase,

1369
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 1: who was Joe burrows buddy in college at l s

1370
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 1: u Tua, and the Dolphins they grabbed Jalen Waddle at six.

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01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 1: By the way, I did think that was a reach,

1372
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: Like I like Jalen Waddle a lot sixth overall, you

1373
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: get a guy who's like six ft eight pounds coming

1374
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: off with a broken ankle against Tennessee, like he's gonna

1375
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 1: he's good. He's really good. I would love Waddle at

1376
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: like sixteen as opposed to six. If you're drafted in

1377
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: the top five, six, you're gonna have to be like

1378
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 1: a star big time. And I know he was a

1379
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: star at Alabama. But again, the NFL is a different animal.

1380
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 1: I mean it's really hard to be I mean, Amari

1381
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: Cooper went super high to the Raiders what's considered not

1382
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: a bus but like, oh, he's dropping a lot of passes.

1383
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: Is this guy great that he goes to Dallas puts

1384
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: up great numbers? But Mary Cooper is not like a

1385
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 1: sniffing the Hall of Fame. He's no A J Green,

1386
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. Jalen Hurts, who is the new quarterback in Philly,

1387
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 1: gets Davonta Smith. Now, I didn't love trading up for

1388
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 1: Davonta Smith. Hurts and he were in the locker room

1389
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 1: in Alabama. I don't think they played too much together because, uh,

1390
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: you know, the Alabama receivers were stacked and so they

1391
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: didn't play a ton of snap together. And then finally

1392
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 1: Truck Trevor Lawrence gets e t N in Jacksonville, and

1393
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: I like what's going? I like how these teams are

1394
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 1: throwing their quarterback of solid. Hey, you had a connection

1395
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 1: with that guy, Let's bring him in. I mean it

1396
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 1: just makes sense, right Like when I got hired a Fox,

1397
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: Instantly they were like, who's good, Jay, who do you

1398
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 1: want to bring in who should we talk to? And like,

1399
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm not even a franchise guy, you know, I'm that receiver.

1400
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: I like to think I am all right. Coming up

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01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: next year on Fox Sports Radio, We're gonna talk a

1402
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: little Bears, the Bears, justin Fields. Is you have a

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01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 1: chance in Chicago. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports

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Speaker 1: our number three here on Fox Sports Radio, It's me

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Jason McIntyre. Very exciting. Top of the hour,

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Speaker 1: high noon on the East Coast, the NFL Draft Day

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Speaker 1: three in the draft. Listen, this is when championship teams

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Speaker 1: are built, right, You guys are well aware that you

1420
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: win championships by crushing the back end of the draft.

1421
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 1: I seem to remember Gavin Stefan Diggs went like the

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01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: fifth or sixth round late pick. We all know Tom

1423
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 1: Brady sixth round pick. Um. If you can absolutely hit

1424
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 1: home runs in the in day three of the draft,

1425
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 1: you build up a really good depth on your rosters,

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01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,719
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, this is when championships are really built.

1427
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: Hopefully my Jets can come through. All right, we got

1428
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: a guest coming up here. Uh uh, he's from he's

1429
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: from Chicago, and you know, I reached out to him

1430
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 1: about the Bears because this justin fields move. I loved

1431
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: it when it happened. Now, the Bears were plus four,

1432
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: hunted to get justin fields. They were sitting at twenty,

1433
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 1: and it had looked like all the quarterbacks were gonna

1434
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: be gone. Then the trade lance curveball hits okay, and

1435
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: everybody passes on meaning everybody meaning Carolina and Detroit and

1436
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 1: Denver all passed on quarterbacks. And you're like, whoa, whoa,

1437
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen? Who's gonna make a move. Are the

1438
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: Raiders gonna do something dumb? We know the Patriots had

1439
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,680
Speaker 1: liked mac Jones. I had to pay atures taking mac

1440
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 1: Jones and a bunch of my mock dress, and then

1441
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: the team that jumped out was the Bear. So I

1442
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,799
Speaker 1: hit up my guy, Vick Chotsky. He covers mostly gambling

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01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: for bet q l Uh. Vick Chotsky, Vick, Vicky there, Yes, sir,

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01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm here. Good to talk to you, man, Thanks for

1445
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: having me on. How are you? He's also at Audyssey

1446
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 1: Audacy Sports bet qel. He doesn't he's really good at gambling.

1447
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 1: We have some fun gambling text chains. Uh. Vic obviously

1448
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 1: big NBA guy, big NFL guy, but he's in Chicago. Vick,

1449
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you. Were you stunned when they went

1450
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 1: up and got Justin Fields. I was a little stunned, man.

1451
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 1: I thought that being lame duck, kind of GM coach situation,

1452
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 1: the organization, the owners might kind of slap him on

1453
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 1: the wrist a little bit and tell him to sit

1454
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: tight and not mortgage of the future. Right. But I

1455
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 1: absolutely love the move. I love Justin Fields. I've been

1456
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: high on him for a long time now, and so

1457
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm excited. As a Bears fan, I'm excited, but I'm

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01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: also a little scared. You know, you're a Jets fan,

1459
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 1: you know how this is the Bears in the Jets

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01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: haven't had the best development of quarterbacks as as we

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01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 1: like to say it, right, And so it does scare

1462
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: me now that Ryan Pace's job is going to be

1463
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 1: secure and he's going to kind of put the onus

1464
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: on Matt Naggie now right, he I got you the

1465
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,719
Speaker 1: quarterback that you wanted. I got you a stud tackle

1466
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: in the second round. Now it's on you to kind

1467
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: of cater to their strength and utilize these guys that

1468
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: I got you. Now, Yeah, I do wonder And we

1469
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: talked with this about Greg Bdard, Like, you know, Andy

1470
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 1: Dalton is probably gonna win the job. It sounds like

1471
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 1: you know, Fields I think is very good, but Andy

1472
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: Dalton probably wins a job. And let's just say, you know,

1473
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 1: Fields comes in and there two and five or whatever,

1474
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: and they win four or five games. We would assume

1475
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 1: Naggie and Pierce or Toast right, Yeah, yeah, it's gonna

1476
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 1: be very interesting. I would say if they have a

1477
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: very bad losing season that the coach gets fired and

1478
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,600
Speaker 1: Pace his job is safe. I really do think he

1479
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: secured his seat in the organized for the next couple

1480
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: of years off of his first two draft picks. Huh

1481
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 1: now that that that is interesting? So they would keep pace?

1482
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 1: Would you let him pick the next head coach? Because uh,

1483
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, Niggy didn't quite work out. I know a

1484
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna say, well, what about b Enemy.

1485
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: He's got to get a job, Like they just went

1486
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 1: to Kansas City and got Naggy. They're not going back

1487
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: to Kansas City in the Indy retreat. You know, it

1488
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 1: does get interesting if you're like, hey, you got Justin Fields,

1489
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 1: why don't you get him a college signal caller? Make

1490
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 1: a run at Lincoln Riley. Right, I remember all the

1491
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 1: Bob Stoops talk back in the day. Uh you know,

1492
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 1: well Bob Stoops has a place in Chicago. You know

1493
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 1: Ryan Day from Ohio State. I mean there's a lot

1494
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: of permutation. So is it it's a cautious excitement about

1495
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 1: Justin Fields? Right? It is? It is? And you nailed it.

1496
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 1: I mean that's the new tron right now, going back

1497
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: to college getting those hot signal callers, and and that's

1498
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 1: definitely where I would see them going next. But at

1499
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: the same time, Ryan Naggi hasn't had a losing season

1500
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: quote unquote right so far, and so he's kind of

1501
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: putting his hat on that. But it will be an interesting,

1502
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: fun year. Like you said, Dalton is going to be

1503
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. We're gonna see how long that last.

1504
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 1: The Bears have a very tough schedule coming up this season,

1505
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: and so I can see things going south. But the

1506
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 1: old line is one of our biggest concerns as a team,

1507
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,799
Speaker 1: and I'm glad to see that they addressed that getting

1508
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 1: a really big, tough, strong kid, a nasty kid, and

1509
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 1: Kevin Jenkins in the second round. So I'm actually just

1510
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 1: as excited about that second round pick as I am

1511
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 1: the fields pick. Now, I do want to ask you, Vic,

1512
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: how much did you gamble on the draft this year,

1513
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,879
Speaker 1: because it feels like this was probably the most gambled

1514
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 1: on draft ever. I do want to let the audience

1515
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: know the largely low limits. You can't go in and

1516
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 1: put five dollars on X to go to this certain team, right,

1517
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean, the limits were pretty low market wide, right

1518
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: they are they are? I mean again, it all depends

1519
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 1: and if you're using the legit website nowadays or you know,

1520
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: if you have your guy quote unquote, But you're right,

1521
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 1: I've not seen a event rise this quickly in the

1522
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 1: gambling space as I have. The NFL Draft, It's just

1523
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: gotten bigger and bigger, and like you said, this year

1524
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: definitely seemed like it was one of the biggest betting

1525
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: events behind the Super Bowl and March Madness, right, So

1526
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: to answer your question, I was definitely all in. I mean,

1527
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: me and you are in the space, so we kind

1528
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: of live, eat, breathe football gambling, and so I had

1529
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: a mass array of That's my biggest bet that I

1530
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 1: had was on Kyle Pits to be the first non

1531
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 1: quarterback selected. I had laid down a little bit of

1532
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 1: juice on that. I got it at minus one fifty.

1533
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 1: By draft day it was minus three hundred and so

1534
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 1: I was confident that, you know, the most you would

1535
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 1: fall is to four and he'd be the first guy

1536
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: that wasn't a quarterback. So that that was a nice

1537
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 1: little hit for me. But it was a lot of fun.

1538
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm definitely all in. It's been It adds a little

1539
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: bit of excitement, even to new gamblers, and and you're right,

1540
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 1: it is low limits, but it just makes the whole

1541
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 1: event even more fun for just even novice betters or

1542
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: just fans of teams. Now, I gotta be honest, Vic,

1543
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: we do talk a lot. The audience probably doesn't know this.

1544
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: So I'll go heavy on NFL. I'll do heavy on

1545
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 1: the college football. I'm all all in on March Madness,

1546
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: like heavy, and then I take a break. I gotta

1547
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: be honest. I'm not one of these guys who reaches

1548
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: and says, let me jump into baseball. I can't find

1549
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: an edge there. You can only go where you find

1550
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 1: an edge. You think you have an edge, and I

1551
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: don't have one in baseball. I don't have one in

1552
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 1: regular season NBA this year. Vick and I, by the way,

1553
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 1: used to bet every single game of the NBA every

1554
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 1: night of the NBA season. We do picks um, but

1555
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I take a break after March Madness.

1556
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 1: You know there's a lot of new gamblers coming into

1557
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: the market. What advice would you give them about? Hey man,

1558
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 1: it's okay to not lay money on the Kentucky Derby

1559
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: if you don't have an edge. No, I think that's

1560
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: terrisk advice, and that's really good life advice for anything, right,

1561
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 1: and so you shouldn't kind of go outside of your limits.

1562
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 1: You shouldn't just try to bet on things because hey,

1563
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: it's the cool thing or it's on TV today. You

1564
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 1: shouldn't bet on games when you're on tilt. I mean,

1565
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 1: those are all things that I think we've paid the

1566
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 1: price and learned over the years, right, And so I'm

1567
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 1: similar to you when it comes to baseball. That's when

1568
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 1: I take my break. That's when I find tune get

1569
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 1: ready for the NFL season. The NBA playoffs is where

1570
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 1: I'll get back into it a little bit more heavily.

1571
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 1: The NBA Draft is coming up. You know, that's another

1572
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 1: big event that you can now gamble on. But yeah,

1573
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: that's what I would give just in general, is just

1574
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: find your niche find the sports that you're good at.

1575
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: Always try to find an edge, gain as much information

1576
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: as you can, and go off of that. Now, Vica,

1577
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: I want to wrap up quickly with U. I saw

1578
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 1: a story in the Chicago Sun Times. I didn't tell

1579
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,759
Speaker 1: you about this, but it was about this guy, uh, somebody,

1580
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 1: some joker named Big Rob. He was profiled by you know,

1581
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 1: I think unfortunately Darren Ravelle. I got we both know.

1582
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,759
Speaker 1: I think he profiled him, and then USA Today jumped

1583
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: in and wrote a piece, and you know, I was like, oh,

1584
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: it's this guy the future of sports betting, and it

1585
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 1: was just some He's just some dude, He's just some bozo.

1586
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 1: And it turns out, oh, wait a sec he was

1587
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 1: a gigantic fraud. Basically, he was taking investor money from

1588
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 1: his girlfriend's dad. He was he was just the guy

1589
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 1: was wealthy and he was just like, oh, here's fives.

1590
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: And this big rob character goes out and says, oh,

1591
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 1: look I'm renting a Ferrari and look yeah, I'm gambling

1592
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: on sports and I'm winning. And he's just a big fraud.

1593
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 1: He's going to jail for twenty eight months because he's

1594
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 1: His whole life was a lie. Basically, the prosecutor said,

1595
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: we saw this story in USA Today and it's like,

1596
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 1: wait a second, let's look into this dude, and he

1597
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: was just a big phony. He was stealing money, uh,

1598
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: and then investing it and then wasting it. And he's

1599
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 1: going to jail. Vic can we talk to the people

1600
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 1: out there about just ignore the Johnny come lately, these

1601
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 1: idiots who are like, oh, I got my will play

1602
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 1: of the century. Like when you hear some stuff, can

1603
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: you tell them to avoid this? Like, I feel bad

1604
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: these people are getting led to slaughter. It is it's tough.

1605
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that's our new day and age because of

1606
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 1: social media and marketing, right, and so it's you know,

1607
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 1: shining new toys, posting on Instagram stories showing stacks of

1608
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 1: money and when you're just a new gambler and we've

1609
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 1: been there, like I was a young kid when I

1610
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: was in my twenties, somebody told me about a website

1611
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 1: to check out because this guy was hot quote unquote,

1612
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: and I would like follow his picks blindly, right, And

1613
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 1: so now all of that is amplified thanks to social

1614
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 1: media on the website. So you're you're right, it's something

1615
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 1: that you really need to be aware of. I know,

1616
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: you make some great post. Hot Firm and has had

1617
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: some really good stuff on Twitter that you know, this

1618
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 1: takes a lot of time. It takes a lot of

1619
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: work if you want to actually make money in the

1620
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 1: space and to you know, just be aware of these

1621
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 1: kind of eyes quote unquote that posts all of these

1622
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 1: cool girls and cars and courtside tickets. It's something that

1623
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 1: if it was that easy, all of us would be retired, right.

1624
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: If it was that easy, Vegas wouldn't have these amazing hotels.

1625
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 1: We'd just be kind of living on island. So you know,

1626
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 1: like you said, word of caution to everyone out there. Unfortunately,

1627
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 1: that guy is went to high school where my kids

1628
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 1: might go to high school. So he's like he's local

1629
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 1: for you that that scares me a little bit. Yep.

1630
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 1: So that's why I've been on top of the story

1631
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:32,919
Speaker 1: for the last couple of years, because he is a

1632
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 1: local guy here. Yeah, just have some skepticism when you

1633
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: hear about guys who are like lock City, Oh this

1634
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: is automatic, this is a six figure play. Any of

1635
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 1: that stuff is like a big red flag. Like, dude,

1636
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 1: I mean, vic, if you're an awesome gambler and you

1637
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 1: have an edge and you're making money and cleaning up,

1638
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: you don't usually share that information with everybody. You know,

1639
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 1: if you're a professional gambler, you're quietly doing it in

1640
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 1: the dark. You don't need all that. Uh look at me,

1641
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm wealthy and I clean up. You know, you don't

1642
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 1: do that exactly. And again, that's what anything in life, right,

1643
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 1: because if it feels that easy, we'd all be doing it,

1644
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 1: everyone would be rich, everyone will be the bus at

1645
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 1: their profession. And so you're right, especially when it comes

1646
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 1: to gambling, you don't want to give out that kind

1647
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 1: of information because you know the odds makers will move,

1648
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:23,679
Speaker 1: those lives, will shorten your limits, that everything, And we've

1649
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 1: been there, we've seen it all. So again, you have

1650
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: your close little circle that you share information or some

1651
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 1: edge picks with, but other than that, like you said,

1652
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 1: be aware of those guys for sure. All right. You

1653
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 1: can follow him on Twitter at dock Squad thirty three,

1654
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 1: which is interesting because he's a Jordan guy. Vic Chotsky, Vic,

1655
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 1: thanks a lot, enjoy the rest of the draft and

1656
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 1: uh well we'll talk to you about the NBA NBA

1657
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 1: playoffs pretty soon. Yes, sir, take care, Thanks for having me.

1658
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 1: All right, that was Vic. Listen. I'm telling you, guys,

1659
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 1: if you find that story in the Chicago Sun Times,

1660
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: if you google Chicago Sun Times, big Rob, you just

1661
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 1: read about it. These guys are frauds in phonies, and

1662
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 1: it's really pathetic that the media champions he's Oh, Gavin,

1663
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: cant tellhim getting upset. I don't want to say anything

1664
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 1: to get to me in trouble. But I'm hanging in

1665
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 1: tight here. Jets are on the clock. The pick is

1666
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 1: in fourth round. The Jets take with selection one oh seven.

1667
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,679
Speaker 1: All right, it's taken forever. Leon Washington, the former punt

1668
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 1: returner for the Jets, is about to announce it. Um

1669
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 1: and Leon Washington was good. Yes, the Jags picked up

1670
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,679
Speaker 1: a usc defensive lineman. I'm telling you, Jags are killing

1671
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 1: the draft guys. I don't want to give urban Meyer

1672
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 1: too much credit. I don't even know who the GM is. Hey,

1673
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 1: Jets pick up Michael Carter, the second best running back

1674
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. Uh, Michael Carter all American? Wow, Bulky

1675
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 1: is the Jaguars GM. Oh. He was the guy who

1676
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: went toe to toe with Jim Horball. Yeah. Absolutely, that's

1677
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 1: why it makes sense that he's with Urban Meyer, who's

1678
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: also a foe of Jim hard Yeah. Indeed, Oh that's right,

1679
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: he hated. All right, So Michael Carter to the Jets,

1680
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 1: running back out of North Carolina third team heat paired

1681
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 1: with Javante I think williams uh, the kid who went

1682
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 1: second round. Carter can play and he's gonna do well

1683
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: in this scheme running attack that La fleur runs this.

1684
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 1: Lafleur's brother is the guy who coaches the Packers, and

1685
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 1: he was I think the quarterbacks coach with the Niners

1686
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 1: last year, and now he's the o c gonna run

1687
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,799
Speaker 1: with the Niners? Did they picked up Tevin Coleman, who

1688
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Tevin Coleman crushed when he was healthy,

1689
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 1: and they kid they got the kid p Ryan out

1690
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 1: of Florida last year in the draft. Listen, Sam Donald

1691
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 1: is gonna be so angry looking at how much the

1692
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 1: Jets are getting offensive players. They got a quarterback, a guard,

1693
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, and a running back all in the

1694
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 1: top one seven picks. Okay, I think they're gonna probably

1695
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 1: lean on the defense here in later rounds because Robert

1696
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 1: needs defenders. But I'm telling you right now, the New

1697
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 1: York Football Jets, they're not going to be pushovers, Gavin,

1698
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a totally different Jets team than

1699
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: we've seen. New quarterback, new head coach, new offense, new

1700
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 1: uh tackle no, no, not new tackles, sorry, new guard

1701
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 1: next to their tackle, new receivers, new running backs, new

1702
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 1: defensive line with Carl Lawson, Like, this is a new

1703
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 1: Jets team. C J. Mosley's back. They're not gonna look

1704
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 1: anything like last year when they were awful. All right,

1705
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 1: Coming up next year on Fox Sports Radio, the draft

1706
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 1: rolls on and we got a good guest coming up

1707
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 1: in fifteen minutes, r J. Young. He did the Fox

1708
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 1: Sports Draft with me. Uh coverage college football heavily. You

1709
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 1: give me a name, hit me a name on social

1710
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:38,600
Speaker 1: media of a player you want to know about, I

1711
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 1: will ask R J. Young. Okay, we'll do that in

1712
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. Coming up next, we're going back to the

1713
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers well and live draft coverage as it unfolds

1714
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio. Reminder, our draft coverage on

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01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 1: Search f s R to listen live back here on

1725
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Forgive me for the excitement. Listen, there

1726
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 1: hasn't been a lot to be excited about if you're

1727
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 1: a Jets fan. They have the longest playoff draft of

1728
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 1: anybody in the NFL, now that the Browns made the

1729
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 1: playoffs last year. So when we can latch onto a

1730
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 1: kernel anything, even drafting an All American in the running

1731
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 1: back in the fourth round, like Michael Carter, we're gonna

1732
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 1: get fired up. It's not like we got It's not

1733
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,759
Speaker 1: like I'm Gavin rooting for Austin Ekeler in the Chargers.

1734
01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 1: By the way, Austin Ekeler, what round does he take?

1735
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 1: I mean that's a great question, and it's the midground pick.

1736
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 1: Like he wasn't like a first or second round guy,

1737
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: I don't think. And yeah he was unfed and Isaac

1738
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 1: just confirmed. Yeah. I mean, like, listen, you could find

1739
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:16,639
Speaker 1: undrafted guy like Austin Ekeler, then yeah, Michael Carter can pop.

1740
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 1: He's a guy that that Anthony Lynn said, play good

1741
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 1: on special teams and you'll get more of a more

1742
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 1: of a role, and he did that. He showed out

1743
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,839
Speaker 1: in the presect that in Spain. I mean he basically

1744
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 1: unseated Melvin Gordon. Right, Well, Gordon heard himself, but Austin

1745
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:37,680
Speaker 1: made it an easy transition. Go ahead, hold out, so

1746
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 1: you could find running backs and receivers anywhere. But without question, Like,

1747
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 1: the Jets have real reason to be excited. I mean,

1748
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 1: there's just no doubt. Like the division. Yeah, the Bills

1749
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:54,599
Speaker 1: are on top. Everybody's chasing them. Patriots, we'll see. I'm

1750
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:56,680
Speaker 1: not a believer at this point. Uh. And then I

1751
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 1: don't I don't know about Miami. I mean, Kevin you

1752
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 1: you you gambled a lot. We rode Miami folks because

1753
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 1: they kept getting lucky on special teams. I think they

1754
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 1: were third in turnover margin, led the league in the

1755
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 1: interceptions like top five or six and special teams all

1756
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 1: season and they were one of the luckier teams in

1757
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 1: the league. Gavin, there's gonna be a regression in Miami.

1758
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 1: And remember Ryan Fitzpatrick was like their best quarterback last year.

1759
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 1: That is undeniable. The two of fans and there's lots

1760
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 1: of them, have reason to be concerned. There's a reason

1761
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 1: they tried to get Deshaun Watson from Houston. Okay, Deshaun

1762
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 1: Watson is a great quarterback to a tongue of Valoa

1763
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 1: is we will see. Um, I don't. There's no way

1764
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 1: for us to show this video, guys, but there is

1765
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:46,560
Speaker 1: a video of Zach Wilson, of course, because I have

1766
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 1: to go back to the jetile quick. So it's I

1767
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 1: guess it's like the first five or six picks, Gavin.

1768
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:55,799
Speaker 1: We're on like the red carpet or wherever they were,

1769
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 1: and they were like taking a picture and one of

1770
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 1: the guys, Jalen Waddle, I'm pretty sure right because he

1771
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 1: has a shades throws up like you know the Some

1772
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 1: people were joking that it was a gang side, but

1773
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 1: it's like a what up or whatever. And the guy,

1774
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 1: this big, huge guy who I still don't know who

1775
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 1: that is. I don't think it's Kyle Pitts, but it's

1776
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 1: an enormous guy on the other side of Zach Wilson

1777
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:19,880
Speaker 1: is like doing the same thing. And then there's Zach

1778
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:24,640
Speaker 1: Wilson's looking around sheepishly and he looks small, he looks tiny,

1779
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 1: and he looks intimidated by these large football players throwing

1780
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:31,799
Speaker 1: up gang signs. And somebody wrote like a funny caption

1781
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:37,720
Speaker 1: where Zach Wilson's looking for the National Guard. It's really funny. Uh, look,

1782
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:39,879
Speaker 1: we don't know anything. It's a little like the Kobe

1783
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 1: Matt Barnes video. There could be some other angle and

1784
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 1: it shows what was really happening. Maybe someone was flashing

1785
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 1: him right there on an off screen. I don't know.

1786
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 1: But Zach Wilson man get ready for that New York media.

1787
01:37:54,439 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 1: So this Remember Sam Donald threw a pick six on

1788
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 1: his first pass I think ever against Wally came back

1789
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 1: upon the game like ten or whatever. But I read

1790
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:09,799
Speaker 1: this about Zach Wilson. So he was a great athlete

1791
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 1: in high school, great basketball player, a good football player.

1792
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 1: And Boise State offers him and he's all set to

1793
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:18,599
Speaker 1: go to Boise State and b why you comes in late?

1794
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 1: And one of their selling points was like, dude, we

1795
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 1: know you're a Mormon home guy, loved dinner with your family,

1796
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 1: don't drink blah blah blah. You gotta be why you

1797
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 1: You could have dinner with your family every weekend if

1798
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 1: you want. Zach Wilson was like, I'm in here's a

1799
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:36,639
Speaker 1: family guy. They ain't gonna be Mark Sanchez chatting around

1800
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 1: New York City posing on the cover of g Q.

1801
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:42,799
Speaker 1: Uh you know, hooking up with girls every weekend and

1802
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, being like a playboy and enjoying it. That's

1803
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 1: not what this is. This isn't gonna be Sam Darald

1804
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 1: going around making out with chicks getting um pneumonia. You

1805
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 1: got pneumonia, right, yeah, I got mono. I'm sorry. Yeah yeah.

1806
01:38:57,479 --> 01:38:59,719
Speaker 1: They called it the kissing disease because all Sam Donald

1807
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 1: was doing was going around enjoying life. Like you're in

1808
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 1: New York City, You're the quarterback of a football team,

1809
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 1: You're making millions of dollars. Zach Wilson needs to move

1810
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 1: his family to New York City. He does, and he

1811
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 1: needs to live in Can I temper your expectations on

1812
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. This is one of my favorite articles of

1813
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 1: the off season. This was from Charlie Campbell of Walter Football.

1814
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 1: Anonymous NFC scout says, Zack Wilson is Johnny Manziel without

1815
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 1: the drugs. Wilson is fun to watch, but he is

1816
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 1: a one year flash in the pan. His uncle owns

1817
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 1: Jet Blue, He's a spoiled rich kid. Wilson has character

1818
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:43,600
Speaker 1: concerns entitled bratt. Parents are a pain, not a leader, selfish,

1819
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 1: and he's a no it all that was in Walter.

1820
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 1: I know that is a brutal character assassination. I didn't

1821
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 1: know his his uncle owned Jet Blue. Okay, you got

1822
01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 1: you have uncles and ants. Of course, whatever they've done,

1823
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 1: whether they're successful, that doesn't impact you know. I think

1824
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 1: it's about his you know, are you gonna hold it

1825
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 1: against someone that his family grew up wealthy? You know

1826
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 1: that wasn't a lot of it wasn't Josh Rosen. I

1827
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 1: think they were. Well, yeah, his dad was like some

1828
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 1: but that's direct, Like, you know, I have uncles and

1829
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 1: aunts like if they were loaded, it wouldn't impact me.

1830
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 1: It doesn't. Yeah, yeah, they're not getting me a private

1831
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,720
Speaker 1: jet or you know, they're not buying me houses and

1832
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 1: they're not gonna buy me cars like okay, um, it

1833
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 1: sounds like that guy read the rest of it real quick.

1834
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 1: Someone will grab him in the first round. I doubt

1835
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 1: he gets to the second. Well, this was obviously no

1836
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 1: flash in the pan and then flash in the pan.

1837
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:40,799
Speaker 1: Character concerns because he's a rich kid who's an entitled

1838
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 1: brat um parents are a pain. I don't know why. Okay,

1839
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 1: our guests coming up R. J. Young will know this,

1840
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 1: Like to my recollection. Zack Wilson was nothing great early

1841
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 1: in his career at b y U, and he had

1842
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 1: to earn the starting job last year. He earned it

1843
01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 1: and then crushed it. But let's bring you our guests

1844
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:02,639
Speaker 1: coming up after the break will be r. J. Young

1845
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 1: covers college football for Fox Sports. Did a lot of

1846
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 1: stuff with me on the draft. He's great. Uh, he's

1847
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 1: a little combative, so hopefully you guys will be prepared

1848
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 1: for that. But first let's go to Isaac Loewen Crown

1849
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 1: with what's trending? All right, Jason, the fourth round of

1850
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:18,720
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft is underway. Let's run it down for you.

1851
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 1: With the first pick of the fourth round, number one

1852
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 1: oh six overall, the Jaguars drafted USC defensive tackle j

1853
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 1: To Fele, followed by the New York Jets selecting North

1854
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 1: Carolina running back Michael Carter. Something something something happened back there,

1855
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:39,679
Speaker 1: j Michael Carter. Uh, you can never separate the Jets

1856
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 1: fandom from our own, Jason McIntire, of course. Then the

1857
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:46,919
Speaker 1: Falcons drafting San Diego State cornerback Darren Hall, the Titans

1858
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 1: picking Louisville receiver Dez Fitzpatrick, the Cleveland Browns then drafting

1859
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati offensive tackle James Hudson, the Bengals selecting

1860
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 1: to lane defensive lineman Cameron Sample, and the Lions have

1861
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 1: just selected and the USC player receiver almand Ross st

1862
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:05,640
Speaker 1: Brown with the one hundred and twelfth overall pick. The

1863
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 1: Lions actually are on the clock again because they have

1864
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 1: the next pick at one thirteen overall. Here is the

1865
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:14,879
Speaker 1: latest on the Aaron Rodgers drama. Green Bay Packers president

1866
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:18,919
Speaker 1: Mark Murphy a short time ago posted his regular monthly

1867
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 1: column on the Packers website and posted quote, Thursday was

1868
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 1: definitely a day filled with more intrigued than usual. The

1869
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 1: day started with the report that Aaron Rodgers is upset

1870
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:31,800
Speaker 1: with the Packers and doesn't want to return. This is

1871
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 1: an issue we have been working on for several months.

1872
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:37,000
Speaker 1: We are very much aware of Aaron's concerns and have

1873
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 1: been working with him to resolve them. We remain committed

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Speaker 1: to Aaron in one and beyond again. That was posted

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Speaker 1: a short time ago by Packers President Mark Murphy. Rogers,

1876
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:51,679
Speaker 1: for his part, is expected to be in attendance later

1877
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Speaker 1: today at the Kentucky Derby and Jason Get This w

1878
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Speaker 1: g B, a television out of Green Bay and has

1879
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 1: just posted the first picture of Rogers at Churchill Downs today.

1880
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Speaker 1: He's part of a group of twelve people that includes

1881
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 1: his fiance I see Packers teammate David Bakti, his former

1882
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 1: Packers teammate Randall Cobb now with the Texans, and another

1883
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 1: former teammate, a J. Hawk. People are going crazy analyzing

1884
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 1: this picture on social media already. Rogers is wearing a

1885
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:28,679
Speaker 1: black suit and pants, a purple shirt, no tie, white shoes,

1886
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:33,120
Speaker 1: a Derby hat, dark sunglasses, and a scruffy looking beard.

1887
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 1: It's kind of hipster meets Churchill Down. But that photo? Hold,

1888
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:38,640
Speaker 1: are you looking at the photo? I'm looking at the

1889
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 1: photo as we spend he hanging out with Miles Teller,

1890
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 1: the actor that is Miles Teller on the far right.

1891
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Speaker 1: Are you are you looking at the photos? I just

1892
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: called it up? Yeah? So his wife is she? Okay?

1893
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers or fiance is there? Miles Teller's girlfriend and

1894
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:57,599
Speaker 1: Miles Teller and and Roger's fiance like co started together

1895
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 1: back in the day? Right? Interesting? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, okay?

1896
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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Aaron Rodgers, what are you doing with that hat?

1897
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 1: He looks he looks like a sidewalk magician. Gracious. All right,

1898
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Speaker 1: thank you Isaac. Good stuff. All right, let's welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show back here Fox Sports Radio. Let's bring my

1900
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 1: man in our J Young. We did the draft together

1901
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:19,720
Speaker 1: for Fox. It was awesome. I met r J. He's

1902
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:23,839
Speaker 1: a Midwest guy, came out here are J is always

1903
01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 1: firing on all cylinders? How are you this morning? Man?

1904
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm good JC. So I would put over in the

1905
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 1: south South okay. So so Midwest would be more Chicago, Iowa.

1906
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:38,759
Speaker 1: You guys are South Okay? Uh large. And let's start

1907
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:41,559
Speaker 1: right here. Let's start with the big news about Aaron Rodgers.

1908
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm curious as to your thoughts. Where do you think

1909
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:47,599
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers ends up this offseason? Or is he stay

1910
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 1: in Green Bay retire? You got options. I think you've

1911
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 1: got to stay in Green Bay. And I think that's

1912
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:56,760
Speaker 1: because it's difficult for the Packers to trade him. They

1913
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:59,639
Speaker 1: signaled that they don't really care what you want when

1914
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:01,679
Speaker 1: they took Carrot Stokes in the first round and didn't

1915
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 1: get him a wide receiver. We know that story fact

1916
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 1: by now, he has not had a coarse round wide

1917
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 1: receiver since he has been at Green Bay. But more

1918
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:12,640
Speaker 1: than that you look at his contract that paid him

1919
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 1: to point eight million dollars and or Rosher bonus already,

1920
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 1: which means they would have to be paying seven million

1921
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:20,400
Speaker 1: dollars just trade him. And then there's this aspect of

1922
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 1: it that ye haven't been talking about Stellar Captain. You

1923
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 1: know that there's thirty eight million dollars is that they

1924
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 1: would basically be spending to trade him. That goes down

1925
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:31,640
Speaker 1: to seventeen million next year. But the thing for me

1926
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:35,600
Speaker 1: is it's fifty thousand dollars day to miss these organized

1927
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 1: events O t A and training camp in the life

1928
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:42,640
Speaker 1: last time, my look, thirty sives fifty dollars. There's a

1929
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 1: lot of money, even for Aaron Rodgers. I don't think

1930
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 1: he has the back phones assist this now. And Jordan

1931
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 1: Love goes out there and goes thirty two or thirty

1932
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:53,599
Speaker 1: eight to three forty four with four touchdowns, he will

1933
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 1: show up tomorrow. R J. Come on. First of all,

1934
01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has more money than God. I'm just kidding.

1935
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 1: He does not. He has a lot of money, so nothing,

1936
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 1: but it would be interesting. I'm curious where did you

1937
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 1: come in on Jordan's Love? You saw him in college?

1938
01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:09,760
Speaker 1: I mean were you impressed with the guy, or like,

1939
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 1: how would he stack up compared to this this year's

1940
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks in the first round, the way that he

1941
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 1: stacked up to the quarterback last year and the year

1942
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:21,120
Speaker 1: before that, I didn't get it. I don't understand. Look,

1943
01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:23,840
Speaker 1: if you're Green Day, you saw something that you obviously

1944
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 1: like and you thought could work within your system and

1945
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 1: within your club. But when I saw a Utah Sake

1946
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 1: was a guy that lets the entire FBS in interception.

1947
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 1: He's through seventeen picks in just twenty t d s

1948
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 1: and it's last year of college football, and then you

1949
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 1: drafted that dude it's thirty two. Now, I think it

1950
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:47,080
Speaker 1: works in the entrance. If the strategy here is to

1951
01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 1: piste off Aaron Rodgers so he plays up to an

1952
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:51,760
Speaker 1: m v P caliber, then yeah, it works, And I

1953
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 1: would spend my draft capital doing that for as long

1954
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:56,080
Speaker 1: as it does work, because I thought the thing to

1955
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 1: do this year is to double down on what you

1956
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 1: did last year, because can you to build after deepense,

1957
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:04,479
Speaker 1: find another weapon to go on the other side of

1958
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:07,799
Speaker 1: Davante Adams and run it's back. But with this drama

1959
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 1: that is a longside Aaron watch contract, and he wants

1960
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 1: to be a game show host, and now he doesn't

1961
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 1: want to be in Green Bay anymore. I would wash

1962
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 1: my hands of it. If I'm bil right, I think

1963
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 1: that you try to get everything you can for want.

1964
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:23,599
Speaker 1: Of these three suitors, neither doesn't feel like a suitor anymore.

1965
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:25,840
Speaker 1: They took Trey Lance, but perhaps they'd be willing to

1966
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 1: trade him. I like him a little bit better than

1967
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 1: Toword and Love. But if George Loves were to come

1968
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:33,639
Speaker 1: up there and show everybody that I'm wrong, more power

1969
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 1: to him. I just don't see it. Yeah, I'm kind

1970
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:39,400
Speaker 1: of with you. I don't really see it with the

1971
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 1: kid and and if you're the GM, I just think

1972
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 1: you're overthinking things. Yeah, let's bring in Jordan's Love, even

1973
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:45,680
Speaker 1: though we just went to the NFC title game. All right,

1974
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 1: R J Young, I want you to dive in quickly.

1975
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:52,600
Speaker 1: Give me your thoughts on Trey Lance versus Mac Jones. Um,

1976
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 1: you know Mac Jones falls to the Patriots, Trey Lance

1977
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 1: goes three. Justin Fields is the guy we both like,

1978
01:47:57,040 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 1: I think who ends up in Chicago. But you know

1979
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 1: trade is Do you think he'll be successful in San France? No?

1980
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:05,639
Speaker 1: We agree on Justin Fields like, I love that dude.

1981
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 1: He was like HB one even ahead of large that

1982
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 1: another discussions. But I like Lance, but and I like

1983
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,599
Speaker 1: Matt Jones. And the reason I do is I want

1984
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 1: the most athletic persons possible at quarterback always. I want

1985
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:19,639
Speaker 1: the most athletic person with the ball in his hands

1986
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:23,639
Speaker 1: every single time we play football. Sometimes that means distributing

1987
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 1: the ball to other guys that are athletics, but when

1988
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 1: plays break down and I need somebody that can make

1989
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:31,959
Speaker 1: or play off schedule, I like Tree Lance here, especially

1990
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,759
Speaker 1: measured against Matt Jones, because they got the same number

1991
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 1: of starts. And when I talked to quarterback trainers and

1992
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 1: I talked to quarterback coaches, the one thing they all

1993
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 1: agree on is that you need to play a lot

1994
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 1: of footballs be successful in the National Football League. And

1995
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 1: that is where I think both of those guys come

1996
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:50,680
Speaker 1: up short. And then you take into account that we

1997
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 1: don't know the caliber athlete to Tree Lance to play with.

1998
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 1: We only know that it was at the FDS level,

1999
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 1: and we generally believe that the FPS is a little

2000
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 1: bit better. We know that Matt Jones had absolute monsters,

2001
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:06,559
Speaker 1: like a real monsters at every single position. He only

2002
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:09,640
Speaker 1: got stack eleven times and thirteen games. I'm gonna be

2003
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:12,639
Speaker 1: on Tree last year. Yeah, interesting, now are j This

2004
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:14,840
Speaker 1: is what makes it so difficult when you look at

2005
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:17,400
Speaker 1: who becomes better in the NFL, Like a lot of

2006
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 1: it has to do with where you go, who your

2007
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:22,640
Speaker 1: teammates are, who this coaches is, the owner's stable, is

2008
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 1: the GM rotating all the time, Like Justin Fields. There's

2009
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 1: a scenario where the Bears go five and twelve in

2010
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:30,760
Speaker 1: the seventeen game season and the coach and the GM

2011
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 1: get fired, and then Justin Fields is back to square

2012
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:35,599
Speaker 1: one because the new guy may not like him. Similar

2013
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 1: to Joe Douglas coming into the Jets, He's like, yeah,

2014
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, whatever, let's move on. Um, I'm curious where

2015
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:46,520
Speaker 1: you are on Zach Wilson because the Jets new regime

2016
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 1: head coach and GM picked them, picked him as their guy.

2017
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:56,559
Speaker 1: We'll see, seriously, we'll see. I've seen them compared by

2018
01:49:56,800 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 1: NFL personnel that I really set to Kyler Murray and

2019
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:03,680
Speaker 1: to us on the law, I just don't see it

2020
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 1: coming out of Ribon Young and I think that his

2021
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:08,599
Speaker 1: personality though, We're gonna figure out a lot about whether

2022
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:10,280
Speaker 1: or not he's the guy just by how he hand

2023
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:12,760
Speaker 1: on media there. But in his quarter was given that

2024
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 1: people forget this as a freshman, not even a freshman,

2025
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:19,760
Speaker 1: as a senior in high school. He took two p

2026
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:23,599
Speaker 1: y U cheerleaders to his senior cross. That's moxie, Okay,

2027
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:27,599
Speaker 1: that's a real that happened. That happened there. There is

2028
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 1: photographic evidence on the interwebs right now of that picture

2029
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:33,920
Speaker 1: and they're both kissing him on the cheeks. It's one

2030
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 1: of my favorite facts about any of these quarterbacks going

2031
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:39,599
Speaker 1: in this first round. He is there as a full

2032
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:42,760
Speaker 1: personality and he is going to embrace I think the

2033
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 1: culture there. We just want to I just want to

2034
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 1: know that it works. Provo is a lot friendlier to

2035
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 1: him than New York will be, especially if he doesn't

2036
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 1: come out of the gate and let people up. All right,

2037
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:54,920
Speaker 1: let's quickly, let's end on this one two thousand twenty

2038
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:57,640
Speaker 1: two draft. I know it's a year away. People are like,

2039
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:01,679
Speaker 1: come on, relax. Everybody loves quarterbacks. But there's no Trevor

2040
01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:04,200
Speaker 1: Lawrence in this class. There's a bunch of good and

2041
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of potentially good. J T. Daniels, desn't Ritter,

2042
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 1: Sam Howell, Keithan Slovis. Is there someone to you that

2043
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:14,559
Speaker 1: jumps out is the best quarterback to look for next year?

2044
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 1: I think it's Rattler, man. I think it's Spencer Rattler

2045
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma. And the only other guy that I put

2046
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 1: in that conversation right now is Sam Howell because a

2047
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 1: lot of the similarities that Baker Mayfield had, he had,

2048
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:29,640
Speaker 1: and he's flipping a program around the same way that

2049
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 1: Baker took a program that was going into the seller

2050
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 1: back to the college football playoffs. But the thing is,

2051
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:38,439
Speaker 1: Rattlers got this ability just to flip his wrist in

2052
01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 1: the ball goat seventi yard. He's tremendously accurate. And the

2053
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 1: thing he has going for him that none of the

2054
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 1: other Oklahoma quarterbacks who have been drafted highly have is

2055
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 1: four years three years of Lincoln Riley being his head coach.

2056
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 1: Is the first guy that we're going to see Riley

2057
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:58,720
Speaker 1: developed from high school onward at Oklahoma. Remember Tyler Murray

2058
01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:01,680
Speaker 1: pansper in Baker Mayfield transferred before he got there, and

2059
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 1: Janalen Hurt supports things. The grassman spur from Alabama. I

2060
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 1: really like him, But I really think he's gonna have

2061
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:09,599
Speaker 1: an opportunity to show that with a team around him

2062
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:12,240
Speaker 1: that is capable of winning the national championship this year.

2063
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:14,240
Speaker 1: All right, he is r J. Young. Follow him on

2064
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:16,599
Speaker 1: Twitter at r J Young Show. R J Great working

2065
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:19,720
Speaker 1: with you this week then and we'll talk soon. I

2066
01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 1: appreciated alright, r J. Young. Guys good. He knows college

2067
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:28,759
Speaker 1: football as well as anybody. Um. Interesting Sam Howell, North Carolina.

2068
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 1: I had to look this up. In his games against

2069
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 1: ranked teams last year eleven TVs one pick, but he's

2070
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:40,560
Speaker 1: like six one. Maybe he's like a thick six one. Um,

2071
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are getting shorter. I guess with the spread offense,

2072
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 1: is doesn't really matter. Right. Coming up next, we will

2073
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:51,639
Speaker 1: wrap up the show. Fox Sports Radio has the best

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2078
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Speaker 1: even know that. That's a great song. Nine Wow, Bobby

2079
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Speaker 1: Brown back at his prime. Um back here on Fox

2080
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio real quick. I got something fun for you guys.

2081
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Speaker 1: company grows, the faster you sync with outdated software. Right now,

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Speaker 1: net suite is offering a one of a kind financing

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Speaker 1: program that's special Financing and net sweet dot com slash

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Speaker 1: draft net sweet dot com slash Draft. So I just

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Speaker 1: went on the Graham during the commercial break, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you press what are the heart or whatever, and you

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Speaker 1: see if you have new followers or people like something.

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Speaker 1: And I see somebody like to flurry on my post

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Speaker 1: and I look at the name them, like Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 1: It must be like some fan who's taken the name

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cups. Like click on the profile and it's the

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Speaker 1: real Cooper Cup. I'm like, what the heck? Cooper Cup

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Speaker 1: of the Rams as a fan of my work. I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, there you got something I did not know.

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Speaker 1: Now he doesn't follow me, but he liked it's possible

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Speaker 1: that he's in his car right now. Gavin or was

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Speaker 1: this morning because it happened like forty minutes ago or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and heard some of the takes about the Rams, who

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Speaker 1: I think of the second best team in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: It's possible that he just you know, saw me on

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Speaker 1: the Fox Pod podcast or saw me on current Cowherd

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Speaker 1: show whatever, And Cooper Cup is like, I like with

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Speaker 1: this guy's selling, and so I guess Cooper Cup is

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Speaker 1: a fan? Can I can I give out the phone number?

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming Cooper Cup has better things to do on

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Speaker 1: a Saturday morning. But just just further scrutinized the photo

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Speaker 1: that Isaac found. Um, Aaron Rodgers, I'm assuming Buck tr

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Speaker 1: is right next to him. The guy's huge. I don't

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Speaker 1: know the other two dudes, Miles Teller's obvious, Miles Teller's girl. Yes, Um,

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand Aaron Rodgers. Like when you go

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Speaker 1: to the Kentucky Derby, it's supposed to be like a

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Speaker 1: spring vibe, a summary feel you're supposed to wear as

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady does every year, like pastel colors. Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: wearing a black suit like he's going to a funeral,

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Speaker 1: a funeral friends Packer's career zing. I know you guys

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Speaker 1: like that one, but I think you described it best.

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Speaker 1: Sidewalk magician like that. So so from left to right,

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Speaker 1: it's Rogers bak Tr former Packer aj unidentified person after that.

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Speaker 1: Then second from right is Randall Cobb, former Packers receiver

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Speaker 1: now the Texans, and then Miles Teller. Yeah, Randall Cobb, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I can recognize him. Unidentified guys probably like their agent,

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Speaker 1: high school buddy something. But good, good, fine on that, Isaac.

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Speaker 1: Look at you making yourself very useful. I like it, Isaac.

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Speaker 1: Any draft thoughts you want to fire off while you're hot?

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Speaker 1: Thank you if I do say so myself. On the compliment, No,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was. I was going to. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna go with the it's my prerogative with Bobby Brown,

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Speaker 1: but Ramos beat me to the punch. That song, by

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Speaker 1: the way, on our Own was on the soundtrack for

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Speaker 1: the movie Ghostbusters too. By the way, just attribute to

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Speaker 1: the original, so does most of the world. I didn't

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Speaker 1: see as gave. I'll steal a Gavin word here. I

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Speaker 1: didn't see the woke twenty nineteen version or whatever. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I came up with that word to toss it around. Hey,

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Speaker 1: somebody just texting me. The Cowboys took another linebacker. What

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Speaker 1: does Oh wait, did I get it right? No? No,

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Speaker 1: Jabril Cox, that was the lines that took Derek Barnes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys took Cox out of l s U. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so what what are they doing? Just when is linebacker

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Speaker 1: or an integral position? I mean they are they dumping

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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith and I was out awere, Hey can I

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Speaker 1: give up my pet peeve of the dress So far,

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Speaker 1: this term edge came out of nowhere. But when they're listed,

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Speaker 1: they're just listed edge Now used to be defensive ends, linebacker,

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Speaker 1: now it's edge. Yeah. My guess is edge rushers are

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Speaker 1: the new breed are like a little lighter than the

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Speaker 1: older ones. Defensive ends like tow ed dressers like to five.

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Speaker 1: They get that bend around that tweener thing where it's good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you can either drop back into coverage or

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Speaker 1: move up. Now, I like not this isn't an edge,

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Speaker 1: but Cam Chancellor is kind of that hybrid. He can

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Speaker 1: play in safety, cover safety, cover, um tight ends from

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Speaker 1: his safety spot, move up in the box, tackle anybody.

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Speaker 1: Derwin James had these tweeners. You want to be a tweeter,

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Speaker 1: you know, you don't want to fit into a box um.

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Speaker 1: John Ramas has a kid that's a tweener twelve years old. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what are they who were those twins, the Olsen Twins.

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Speaker 1: They were like the tweet They cornered the tween market

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Speaker 1: and made hundreds of millions of dollars. Um. All right,

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Speaker 1: everybody makes sure to have a good weekend. It's uh,

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Speaker 1: it's a tough parting here. But it sounds like Gavin

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Speaker 1: is moving on up in the world. Uh he obviously.

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Speaker 1: You know, Gavin has worked with Doug Gottlieb a lot.

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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb lost his producer, and it sounds like Gavin

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Speaker 1: is going to be moving to Doug Gottlieb show. Congratulations dude,

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Speaker 1: Thank you Jason. I think working with you over the

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Speaker 1: past few years has prepped me for this, So I

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Speaker 1: have you to thank and I can only can hope

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Speaker 1: that the next producer makes as much fun of the

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Speaker 1: jets as I did. Come on, please, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: Gavin moving up to the big time. He now he

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Speaker 1: will still work on Straight Fire and I will still

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Speaker 1: needle him on on Wokenus and all that fun stuff.

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Speaker 1: But congrats to you and the fiance guys. Download the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you next week.