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Thanks so much for 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:57.200 listening and we'll be back soon. We hope is that 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:01.240 Carson Wentz and Deshan de Sean Jackson Deshaun Watson both 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.560 returning from major a c L injuries. And Deshaun Watson 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:05.520 lit the world on fire last year before his a 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.560 CIL injury, and the same can be said for Carson Wentz. 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.760 Both of these guys were in Live for major awards, 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:13.840 Watson certainly the Rookie of the Year and went to 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.720 the NFL m v P both through touchdowns at remarkable 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.600 rates really unseen of, unheard of the obvious question is 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.160 can they do it again. Deshaun Watson's being picked earlier 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.759 and rightfully so he's coming back. The surgery was much 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.920 much earlier in this season than Wentz's. Watson's touchdown percentage, 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:35.080 as I mentioned, literally out of control, but he can 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.120 run a little bit, certainly has the deep arm. But 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.280 Carson Wentz is done before. It's two years in a row. 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.880 We saw steady improvement. I have to ask from their 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:49.240 draft price, Frank, which one d other have? This is 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:53.160 tough because I think at their price, I want to 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.200 say neither, because someone who's going in that range right 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.520 now is Cam Newton, and I think i'd rather have 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.720 Cam Newton just in a vacuum. I have Cam Newton 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.120 ranked higher than these quarterbacks right now, and then if 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:04.560 I want to wait a couple of rounds, I can 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.520 grab and Andrew look. Like Mike mentioned earlier on if 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.160 I had to choose one of them, I have Carson 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.440 Wentz ranked higher one spot than Deshaun Watson, and I 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.480 have walked warmed up to Deshaun Watson a little bit. 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.600 I know I was very harsh on him a couple 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.360 of weeks ago, but I am worried. I mean, he 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.680 tore his a c L last year. He's now torn 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.160 a c ls in both of his knees. So you know, 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.680 he is a mobile quarterback who has to get out 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:28.280 of the pocket and make plays. And he's gonna be 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.400 on the run this year. Greg The offensive line of 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.079 the Houston Texans is not good. But that being said, 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.560 I understand the opportunity that's presented right in front of him. 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.760 He has DeAndre Hopkins, he has Will Fuller, so he 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.959 has legitimate weapons. I mean DeAndre Hopkins, pound for pound, 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:46.160 one of the best wide receivers in the game. Um again, 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:48.400 Watson's gonna be able to make plays with his legs. 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.359 That's what we hope. But you know, coming back over 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:52.200 the to the torn a c L, maybe he's a 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:54.800 little bit apprehensive. I just think where he's going you 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.440 have to pay that price. You know, six seventh, even 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.440 eighth round range. They're just running backs wide receiver I'd 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.920 rather take, or if I'm gonna take a quarterback, I'd 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:04.760 rather take Cam Newton. You know, a guy that we've 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.280 seen do it year in and year out. Outside of 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.120 that one terrible season two years ago, the guy has 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.720 finished QB seven or higher in points per game every 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.360 single season. The rushing floor that he gives you. He 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.200 was number one across the board in every single rushing 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.520 statistic for quarterbacks last season. Cam Newton. So that's why 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:23.519 if I'm just putting these guys in a vacuum, they're 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.919 going in similar range. I'll pass on those guys. I'll 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:29.520 take a Cam Newton um and then Carson wentz Is. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:31.799 You know, we're hearing more and more now he might 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:33.360 not be ready for a week one one. He actually 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.400 had surgery early December, and it takes about, you know, 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:38.160 nine to twelve months to heal from an a c 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.120 L injury. Come September, it's gonna be around nine months. 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:44.680 So maybe he doesn't start the year off. That's there's 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.120 a chance that he can bust, just because where he's 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:50.320 being drafted right now. Maybe he doesn't play the first month, 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.400 maybe he lands on the publist. We just don't know 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.000 as of right now if you're doing drafts. So there's 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.680 definitely a lot of risk involved with both of these guys, again, 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.560 a lot of upside, But in a vacuum, I'll take 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:02.440 Cam Newton over both of them. Who is being drafted 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.640 in a similar range. Okay, so that wasn't the question, Frank, 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:10.640 But then sorry, you know, I love Cam Newton, give you, 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:12.680 give it like I think Carson Wentz. But I'd rather 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:14.800 have Cam Newton not in the poll for a reason 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:16.800 because the answer is I don't really want either one 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.800 of them. There you go, that's the answer. You don't 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.760 want to you don't really want either of them. Florio, 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.400 I turned it over to you because we haven't really 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.760 heard a negative word when it comes to Carson Wentz, right, Like, 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.000 he's gonna be fine, he's gonna be healthy, he's working 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:33.480 his way back. Yeada, YadA, YadA. Obviously, Nick Foles proved 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.120 more than capable last year, winning the Super Bowl UM 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.920 for the Eagles. But I do take some solace into 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:43.600 the fact that went like showed that jump in the 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:45.680 year to you, like that efficiency, like Peterson knows what 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.560 he's doing. And maybe I just think Bill O'Brien is 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.839 like an idiot, but like he started Tom Savage last year, right, 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:52.560 like this is the same dude that was like all 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.240 right then with Shaun Watson in and maybe that efficiency 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.360 was just way out of whack. I think I'd really 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.400 have wentzton DeShawn Watson. I guess I'm going to be 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.440 the only one that has Watson ranked higher. And it's 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.600 a number of reasons. First, what Frank said is a 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.360 hundred percent true. There's a chance that Carson Wentz miss 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.039 his week one. There's a chance that he misses more 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.159 time than that. And like you said, they have a 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.560 comminent backup who won the Super Bowl for them, won 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.279 the Super Bowl m v P. So I think they're 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.320 okay saying, hey, Carson Wentz take a couple of weeks off. 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:25.360 We have Nick Foles here for a reason. That's one thing. 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.120 The other thing is, I think, first of all, Texas 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.800 Houston's defense is going to be worse than Phillies, So 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.800 I think Watson is going to be have to put 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.360 up some more points than Wentz will have to. I 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.359 think that also O'Brien is actually there. The talk is 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.240 this year that they're drawing up plays for Watson similar 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:43.920 to like what he did in college, because last year 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.400 he kind of had to conform to their playbook. Now 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:48.040 this year they're doing it the other way around, because 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.240 last year they didn't expect him to be their sudn quarterback, 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:54.160 like you said also, I expect touchdown regressions for both 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.120 of these guys. It was something I said last year 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.560 once DeShawn Watson towards a c L that I thought 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.120 he was gonna be overrated because I said, since two 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:04.640 thousand ten, no quarterback had a higher touchdown percentage. I 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:06.640 went all the way back to the post merger year 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:11.760 Greggy nineteen seventy. Deshaun Watson is tied last year minimum 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.719 two hundred passing attempts all time. Since nineteen seventy, he's 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.039 tied for the second highest touchdown percentage of all time, 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.359 behind only Payton Manning. In two thousand four, his was 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.720 Watson's was nine point four percent, Payton Mannings was nine 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.719 point nine percent. But you look at Carson Wentz in 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:30.599 those same two spans, since two thousand ten, Carson Wentz 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.120 I shared a seven point five touchdown percent Since two 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.000 doesn't tend that ranked six and since nineteen seventy, the 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.080 post merger that was the twenty six highest. So obviously 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.760 both of these guys are going to suffer some touchdown regression. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.000 I think. So if if Carson Wentz isn't throwing touchdowns 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.120 like he was he was on pace last year for 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.839 forty one. That would have been seven more than Russell 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:53.200 Wilson who was second. So obviously he was on pace 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:56.320 by far to to set the touchdown record last season. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.520 You take you scale those back a little bit. Do 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.599 you know how any games he had with less than 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.719 two hundred and fifty passing yards last year? Again, he 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:07.080 played thirteen games, seven of them he failed to reach 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.160 two hundred and fifty yards, and that's half more than 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.760 half the games. He only had four games at over 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.680 three hundred passing yards, So he was either throwing for 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:17.520 over three hundred or less than two fifty. There was 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:19.880 two games in between there, but so we know how 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.760 much up and down. The yardage was more down than up. 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:24.920 So to me, if he is going to lose some 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.280 of those touchdowns and I don't bank on him to 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.960 have the yardage that some of these other quarterbacks going 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.680 around that range can. And we're talking about this was 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.520 a guy who contributed with his legs last year. Why 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.920 are they going to let him run especially early on 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:39.480 in the season. We just said he might miss time 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.960 to start the year. I don't have any confidence at 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:43.760 all that they're going to let him run the ball. 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:47.160 And extend plays with his legs, whereas with DeShawn Watson 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.040 he's had more time to heal. They're already saying he's 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.120 playing without a brace and they are going to let 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.720 him to continue to make plays with his legs. I'm 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.720 with Frank on the fact that I don't want to 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:57.400 draft either of these guys, and I said it when 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.280 I walked in today to you guys, I said, I 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:01.760 have these guys ranked fifth and six, with Watson being 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.320 five once being six, and I don't feel great about it. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.080 I might lower them just because I would never take 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.840 them at their current price, so it's hard for me 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.280 to advocate others to do the same. But while I 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.239 have them ranked highly, I'm not targeting them. I would 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.480 take Cam Newton over them. Like Frank said, I will 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.239 wait and take Andrew Luck. There's other quarterbacks I like later, 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.840 but if you had, if I had to pick one 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.000 of the two, I think the Shawn Watson is safer, 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.720 so I'm taking him. I will say this. You mentioned 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.400 Carson Wentz is touched on rate seven point five percent, 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:33.200 not nearly as high as Shaun Watson, and I do 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.520 think that some regression would be there with him. I 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.440 wouldn't project him to throw more than forty touchdowns over 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.920 a sixteen game span, but it's a lot more manageable 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.840 than de Shaun Watson nine point three. But they're both 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.560 gonna get hit with it. No, yeah, absolutely, But I 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:49.600 do think, you know, there's something to what Gregg said about, 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:51.880 you know, Doug Peterson putting his players in the right 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.520 position to make plays where you know, even when Carson 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.240 Wentz wasn't throwing for that many yards, once he got 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.680 into the red zone, got into the you know, right 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.240 parts of the field to get things done, like Doug 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.240 Peterson put him in that position and they you know, 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:07.960 he was able to do the same thing with Nick Foles. 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.560 Across the border. Are gonna see touchdown regression this year, 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.280 Like you've already poo pooed al Sean Jeffrey and you 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.360 don't think he's gonna repeat the nine touchdowns he had 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:18.800 last year. Zach Ertz had eight touchdowns, something that he's 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:20.520 never done in his career. He had never had more 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.280 than five. I believe he might be able to get 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.280 So I think there's gonna be some regression across the 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.120 board for this team, not just with Carson Wentz. Like 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:31.200 I think Philly's offense last year was amazing. It was 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.640 off the charts good to me. I don't like to 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.199 bank on history repeating itself, though, so like I think 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.720 across the board, especially when Wentz is coming off of 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:40.680 such a severe injury, it might not fully be ready 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.000 to start the season at the very best we're gonna 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:46.120 see him with limited time and preseason. To me, it 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.679 just it screams that there's going to be regression for 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.400 both of these guys. So I'll just go with the 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.480 guy who I think is safer and going to start 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:56.640 the season healthy. If Watson and Wentz were being drafted 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.319 at the same point as guys like Andrew Luck and 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.160 Ben robs Burger, let's say in a vacuum, would you 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:06.120 still would you still pass on those guys to draft 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:07.760 like an Andrew Luck Because I like Andrew Luck a 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:09.679 lot as well. The reason why I would take him 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.800 is because you're getting the round, You're getting a couple 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.240 of round discount. If you're all going around the same range, 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.880 would you still pass on those quarterbacks? No, I would 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:18.520 probably take the Shawn Watson because I think he is 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:21.559 the upside to be the number one quarterback. I think 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.320 Andrew Luck has that upside as well. He does. Let's 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.079 talk about Luck here for a second before we move 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.840 on to Kirk Cousins. You want to do after the break? Um, So, 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.640 Andrew Luck supposed to be a full go. He talked 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:34.199 about that briefly last week week Frank Um supposed to 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.440 just be a full go throwing. He's not on the 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.480 pup list. He's not gonna throw over seven straight days. 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:40.760 But that's fine. But we don't need an throw over 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.040 seven straight days. You needn't be able to throw and 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.800 be normal in what was the last time, guys, that 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:50.640 he was truly healthy. We're looking at fifteen then, because 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:55.360 he always played seven games, so you're looking at that 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.960 was a long time since he was really really healthy. 0:10:58.160 --> 0:10:59.360 What did he do? We know what? He finished that 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.480 in twenty four I know I can tell you his stats. 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:08.199 Well finished that f completions, he played fifteen games. Yeah, 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.560 but he wasn't healthy though, Like I mean, that was 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.000 it was very bad. He finishes QB five and points 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.800 per game. That's not even being healthy. So that's fine. 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.360 Have his finishes and points per game QB eleven and 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:22.280 when he was injured QB two, And that's that's why 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:25.200 I wanted that's where I wanted to get too, because 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.000 in sixteen he finished the top five quarterback and talking 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.000 with the naked eye, he was he wasn't good like 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.640 he was not and I remember the offensive line was horrific, 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.520 the coaching staff was horrific. All this stuff built in. 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.720 I get it. It was bad. He still finishes QB 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:44.480 five back. Was this the year with Braisarians? Do we 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.480 know that? Yeah? I believe so. Yes, it might even 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:52.559 it might not have before. I believe it was. Okay, 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:54.360 So that was the first last time he had a 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:58.440 real opensive coordinator because it let him throw the ball 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.319 down the field when he was the last time Bruce 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:02.839 arians is with the okay, So it was after the 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.320 braz Arians then, but the last time he was really 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:06.920 healthy and he was down he was number two, And 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:08.360 this is why he was one of the first quarterbacks 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:12.360 off the board in If he truly is healthy now, 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.680 Andrew Luck has the ability to finish the top three 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:17.880 quarterback because he's gonna we know what it is with 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.360 the legs. It's just being able to push the all 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:24.080 time Frank Reich one second Frank Reich put Carson Wentz 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:27.280 into or helped put Carson Wentz into a position to succeed. 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.080 He did the same with Philip Rivers before that. I 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.280 think Andrew Luck is in a much better place than 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:36.160 he was since two thousand and fourteen, and where he's 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.360 going off the board costing you nothing prett damn good. 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:42.079 And I know I promised never to be injury optimistic. 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:45.720 Ever again, I'm injury optimistic on injury lock. So I 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.920 have him currently at QB nine, and a big part 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:50.280 of it is because not only do I want to 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.720 see if he's healthy as we get closer to the season, 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:54.560 but I want to see him play a little bit 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.680 and make sure that you know, given all this time 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:58.319 off and all the injuries he's had to that on, 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.680 that he is still the same player. If he starts 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.240 to show us a little bit in preseason, I'm gonna 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.000 move him ahead of Watson and Wentz and he will 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.760 be my QB five. That's that's as high as I'm 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.000 gonna put him if he shows us that he is healthy, 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.800 uh in preseason. Yeah, I agree, that's the highest I 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:15.440 would put him as well. And you know something we 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.400 haven't even mentioned yet, the cult's offensive line got a 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.360 lot better in the off season. You know, they used 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.920 that high draft pick on Quentin Nelson. Pro Football Focus 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.800 has already released their offensive line rankings. Last year, at 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.560 season's end, they were twenty five. As of today their seventeen, 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.560 so they moved up eight spots there. You know about 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.880 an average offensive line now that's much better than than 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:40.000 what Andrew Luck had had in years past. So you 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:41.439 want to see him throw a football, You want to 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.559 see him get out there during the preseason. But I've 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.000 said this before, going to continue to say it, there's 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:50.560 no better year to take a shot on Andrew Luck because, um, 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.400 there's just so the position is so deep that like 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.840 if he if he gets hurt or he bust, I mean, 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:58.840 there's so many guys you can pick up or you 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:03.959 know even just draft Stafford Rivers, Eli Manning of all 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.439 these like Tyrod Taylor. I mean, they have all these 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.160 weapons at the quarterback positions, just so deep. This is 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:10.840 the year that if you wanted to take the shot 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.200 with all the insurance policies, it makes sense to do 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.480 so with Andrew Luck. Okay, they don't have a run game. 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.080 They have coordinators who love to pass, especially when they 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.560 get near the end zone. It is all lining up 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.720 for Andrew Luck to have a phenomenal season. My only 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.480 pause right now is I want to see if he 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.120 like once I see like footage of him throwing the 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.600 ball and he looks like the old guy. I told you, Boom, 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:36.200 I'm putting in five but ahead of Wins, ahead of Watson, 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.960 and I would take him then over those guys in 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:45.520 that range. Yeah, just like I don't know, like that's 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.320 there's more. No, It's just it's a matter of seeing 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.000 I want to see, not like, oh, I don't want 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:51.520 to see him do it for this whole season, But 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:53.280 I just want to see him on the football field 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.280 with his teammates throwing the ball. There's no reason, by 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.360 the way, Andrew Luck shouldn't be in priesas and football 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.240 this year. He already been cleared of everything. He's don't 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:02.200 even need to see him like play well. I just 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.000 need see him on the field. And I'm telling you 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.920 he's going to be the biggest climber from now until 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.239 draft Day of all players. I truly believe. I don't 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:13.000 get that. What do you think it's gonna be higher? Um? 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:17.600 I think you're gonna see who's the dude Ronald Jones more. 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:19.800 I already have Ronald Jones like sixteen at running back, 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.160 so's something like that. I have him in my top twenty. 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:24.600 You have him there, most people don't as of nowhere 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:28.400 where he's going drafted. I think Andrew Luck, like I know, 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.480 he's number eleven, we said for Fantasy pros, and he's 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.720 eleven quarterback off the board. I don't know what the 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.560 discrepancy is between five and eleven. Have Ronald Jones twenty, 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.440 but I've debated putting him higher. So we we were 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.800 talking two weeks ago now that we think Ronald Jones 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.680 is going to be like wherever Sean Penny is going 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:45.840 in the fourth round, Like, Ronald Jones will be right there, 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.120 and I think he should be. We agree, that's why 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.240 he said he's gonna be THEES riser during draft season. 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:54.920 I still think Andrew lucktill can because right now he's 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:57.600 going and like you can get him pretty late, like 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.360 you're geting him like tant eleven, twelfth quarterback off the board. 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:02.200 I don't think Frank and I are alone and saying 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.600 once people start seeing him and because then there's that 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:06.800 you get rid of the old man. What if Andrew 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:08.960 luck is is he's still gonna be hurried, or if 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.040 he's never gonna be the same, you put that to bed. 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.000 People are gonna start looking at what he did when 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.400 he was healthy, in my opinion, and start ranking him 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.280 as highly as we said we would. But he's the 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.720 eleventh quarterback off the board right now. According to Fantasy 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:27.040 pros at pick Well Nitchiel Droubisky take the step that 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.720 Carson Wentz did in his second year, right both second 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:33.680 year guys too. Will Drubisky take that step? A lot 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.800 of people believe he will, like Floria, are you one 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.920 of them? Yes? And I think that first of all, 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:40.560 I'm gonna start this off by saying he is my 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:43.360 pick to be this year's Carson Wentz of these four quarterbacks. 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.840 With that being said, though, I do think the other 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:47.880 three are all safer than him. They're all more proven. 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.000 We've seen them do it at the NFL level, so 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.280 but I do think Trubisky has the higher upside, highest 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.640 ceiling of them all to be that come out of nowhere. 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:57.240 Well he's not really coming out of nowhere, but to 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.480 be that breakout quarterback this season and it's more than 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.520 I'm buying into the system and the supporting cast than 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.520 I am just Shrubisky. We look at it, they got 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:08.359 rid of John Fox, like you said, Greggy, he was 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.199 a dinosaur. They brought in Naggie from the from Kansas 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:15.040 City and their offensive coordinator Mark Helfrich from Oregon. He 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.360 was Chip Kelly's heir to the Oregon Ducks. So right there, 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.080 I believe those two minds. We've seen Naggie get a 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.439 lot out of the Kansas City offense last season, and 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.000 years before we saw we know Oregon as one of 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:29.000 the was at least one of the best offensive schools 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.280 in college football. So I think there's gonna be a 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:35.040 lot of creativity between those two offensive minds right there. 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.359 And then the popular narrative that and I'm buying into 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.400 it is that he's going to be this year's golf 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.240 And it makes sense. He put young, innovative offensive coaches 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.239 around him and a great supporting cast. You look at it, 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.680 what Shrubisky was playing with last year compared to what 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.600 he's playing with, we'll we'll be playing with this season. 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.040 Josh Bell and me and Don Chell Edman is now 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:01.480 Allen Robinson and Zach Miller or Dion Sims is now 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.080 Trey Burton, who Frank and I both think he's gonna 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.200 break out this year. I agree with what Frank said 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.280 last week. I love Alan Robinson in the fourth round. 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.240 Kendall Wright is now Anthony Miller, and I like Anthony 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.320 Miller a lot, and early beat reporters and reports from 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.880 training camp is that Anthony Miller can do it all. 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.520 He's apparently even a great threat inside the red zone, 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.200 so I love the the offensive weapons there. You have 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:27.240 Trea Cohen, who Naggie continuously is talking up and saying 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.320 that they're going to find creative ways to get him 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:31.560 the ball. You have Jordan Howard, who not only is 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.240 a great runner, who you know defenses are going to 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.720 have to pay attention to and it's gonna help open 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.600