1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: On this episode of Newsworld. In December two twenty one, 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Congressman Dan User, who represents Pennsylvania's ninth district, was notified 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: by civilian airport employees the chartered flights carrying hundreds of 4 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants were landing at a local airport in Scranton, Pennsylvania. 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: These flights landed in the dead of night with no 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: prior notice provided to state, local, or federal officials, and 7 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: illegal immigrant passengers were put on buses to undisclosed locations. 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: And this is not just happening in Pennsylvania, as we 9 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: have seen in the news. There are many documented cases 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: of similar situations in Florida, Texas, Kentucky, Tennessee, California, Virginia, 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: New York. Thanks to the Biden administrations open border policies, 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: every state has now become a border state. Under current law, 13 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Health 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: and Human Services are not required to notify local officials 15 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: of the transportation or placement of illegals in their jurisdictions 16 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: or give states the ability to have a say in 17 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: the matter. The Immigration Transparency and Transit Notification Act, modeled 18 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: on a Trump administration executive order will address these issues 19 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: by increasing transparency and enhancing the role of the states 20 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: in the process. Here to discuss the Immigration Transparency and 21 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: Transit Notification Act. The author of that act, my guests, 22 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: Congressman Dan Muser. Dan, thank you for joining me, and 23 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: I really appreciate the leadership you're showing. The number of 24 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: illegal border crossings has greatly increased since Biden took office. 25 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: In fact, it's amazing how fast it's increasing. The board 26 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: patrol set in February there were one hundred and sixty 27 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: four thousand, nine hundred and seventy three border encounters on 28 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: the southern border compared to February of two twenty when 29 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: there was only thirty six thousand, six hundred and eighty seven. 30 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: So that's basically almost a five hundred percent increase, and 31 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: those numbers are only the ones that encounter border patrol. 32 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: The Biden administration estimates at about a half million illegal 33 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: aliens successfully crossed into the US undetected by the border patrol. 34 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: From your perspective, how has the Biden Administration's immigration policy 35 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: caused this increase? Well, Speaker, first off, trill honor to 36 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: be with you. We really appreciate you spending time with 37 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: us in our congressional caucus and at various meetings. Your 38 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: wisdom and insight experiences are very very meaningful in the 39 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: planning that we're developing, So thank you very much, Speaker. 40 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: What the Biden administration and Nancy Pelosi have done is 41 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: pretty much to reverse everything that President Trump had initiated, 42 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: which was proving enormously successful. I have been to the 43 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: border twice, and once when I was there at the 44 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: beginning of the Trump administration when things weren't going so well, 45 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: and then enormous improvements were made, and I had a 46 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: personal discussion with President Trump as to how he brought 47 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: order to the border, how he resolved that. As we 48 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: well know, the Biden folks came in and supported entirely 49 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: by Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats in the House, decided 50 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: to basically reverse everything that was being done. So almost 51 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: immediately it sent signals to hundreds of thousands of potential 52 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: illegals that they would gain entry on a company miners 53 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: under Title forty two. Title forty two, which was allowed 54 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: us to expel those under COVID emergency, came in in droves, 55 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: and Speaker, as I spoke with Customs and Border Patrol agents. 56 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: They had no idea what the age was of these 57 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: young people or something not so young. They didn't know 58 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: if they were twenty two, twenty five, seventeen, and they 59 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: don't carry ideas with them or anything like that. Now, granted, 60 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: on the same note, many of them were clearly adolescents 61 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: and younger. But the shame of all this was is 62 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: that it was really being led by the cartels. And 63 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: that's not an opinion, that's the way CBP will explain 64 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: it to you. So not only will these people given 65 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: their life savings to try to get their young ones 66 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: across or themselves across and then have the harrowing experience 67 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: of coming across on their own trying to sneak through 68 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: and meet up with their family members. There was fatalities 69 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: and there was drugs that came along with it. And 70 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: I'll just add this speaker just mentioned the horror it 71 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: was occurring here. Customs and Border Patrol agents also stated 72 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: to me more than once that as they were processing 73 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: a so called minor with an address and or a 74 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: phone number written on their arm or their back on 75 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: or some note, as they're going through their computer trying 76 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: to connect with an individual, whether they were in Pennsylvania 77 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: or Idaho for matter, where they claimed was their sponsor 78 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: or family member. I've had CBP look up at me 79 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: with very, very weary, sad eyes and say they at 80 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: times feel as if they are the final link in 81 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: a chain of human trafficking. It's not working, they're not 82 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: helping people. It's a disaster, probably Biden's main disaster. And 83 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: of course we could spend all day talking about all 84 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: of them. So we start getting word because HHS and 85 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: DHS was so overwhelmed at the border, I mean tens 86 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: of thousands in the detention centers and in the HHS centers, 87 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 1: and HHS takes the unaccompanied miners. That's how it works. 88 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: So they use taxpayer dollars, obviously to load up many 89 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: of these unaccompanied miners on airplanes and fly them to 90 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: different places throughout the United States. And it's no coincidence 91 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: that not only were these flights in the middle of 92 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: the night, which HHS by the way, denied, they stated 93 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: it was a coincidence, it was also to the smallest 94 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: airports where there was very little population of persons, so 95 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: as it could be as clandestine as possible. And one 96 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: of those destinations was Wilkesbury, Scranton, right outside of my district, 97 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: very close to my house. Lehigh Valley and White Planes 98 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: Airport in New York. But the ones coming into Wilkesbury Scranton, 99 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: we're so secret. We just started getting leaks from the 100 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: local airport that these flights were coming in. So I 101 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: go down to the airport myself on the Sunday after 102 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: Christmas because I heard some flights came in Christmas night, 103 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: and they did. In fact, they came in at ten 104 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: o'clock and midnight on Christmas night unloaded. It was like 105 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty people on each flight and got 106 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: into shuttle buses, where even airport employees inform me. They 107 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: asked where these shuttle buses going and they said, we're 108 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: not allowed to say. And it was a cold night 109 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: where people are not dressed, and I'd equipped for all this. 110 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: It's just crazy. Unfortunately that continued. I did have a 111 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: meeting with HHS soon after that, and frankly speaker, they 112 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: told me a number of untruths. They told me that 113 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: those miners were not being resettled in Pennsylvania. They told 114 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: me that schools were being notified if five non English 115 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: speaking students were going with the show up in a 116 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: fifth grade or in eighth grade. They told me that 117 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: that was occurring. They also added again that it was 118 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: just a coincidence that they were coming in in the evening. 119 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: No longer than a three weeks later did I have 120 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: another meeting with them where they really reversed everything that 121 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: they just stated. So we put forth a bill that 122 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: would address this, clearly, not address the root of the problem, 123 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: which is Biden's awful open border policies, but a bill 124 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: that would bring transparency and notification to the communities. So 125 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: let me ask a couple of different questions, because you 126 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 1: triggered a lot with a very powerful report. First of all, 127 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: sooner or later, don't they have to have a financial 128 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: record of the flights they paid for and the buses 129 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: they paid for? I mean, isn't there a way to 130 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: get g O or the committee staff to look at it. Mean, 131 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: all of this involves federal tax money, so I assume 132 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: it has to be recorded somewhere. Yeah, they're very nebulous 133 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: on answering that question, and that's certainly something that by 134 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: you bringing it up. I'll ask again, Now we are 135 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: able to track them actually because it's steph aa, and 136 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: we learned kind of fast on how to track them 137 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: coming in. But my staff and others throughout the community 138 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: were on various websites daily just seeing if these flights 139 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: are coming in and lo and behold, wouldn't you know it? 140 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: Because some static was raised that wilkes Bury, Scranton. Those 141 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: flights did cease, but of course headed off elsewhere, right, 142 00:08:49,320 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: they were diverted to somewhere else. When my wife, Callisto, 143 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: was the ambassador to the Vatican, she got very involved 144 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: in this whole challenge of human trafficking, which is much 145 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: bigger and much more vicious than people realize. Can you 146 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the human trafficking implications of 147 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: the way the cartel relates to what's going on and 148 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: why the border patrol agent said to you that he 149 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: felt like he was simply being used as a part 150 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: of a chain of human trafficking. Sure, they make the 151 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: track through Mexico most by the way, in the last 152 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: six months from the data that I have from Nicaragua 153 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: and other so called Northern Triangle countries, and they do 154 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: come through with their guardians, shall we say, until the 155 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: payment is made, until the cartels take over form them 156 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: that they will largely take it from there with large 157 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: sums of money. And the reports that we get from 158 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: the CBP how they often do it is they'll send 159 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: across one line of people or raft if the real 160 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: grand is up, or very often with three rafts. One 161 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: of the rafts has or lineage of people, they're all 162 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: carrying drugs, and if they use the other lines as 163 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: largely a diversion. Very often there are reports that if 164 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: a raft would drugs is captured, they'll start throwing kids 165 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: off the rafts, so CBP is forced to go retrieve 166 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: the children from the river. These are brutal drug dealers, 167 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: and any CBP I speak to will tell you they're 168 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: in charge of the border, not the CBP agents. That's 169 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: how crazy this is. So once they come in, the 170 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: unaccompanied get processed because the Biden administration lifted the title 171 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: forty two allowing for it, which speaker of course, created 172 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: an enormous incentive and a dangerous incentive, I mean giving 173 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: an incentive for parents to separate with their young ones. 174 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: Somebody said to me that for at least one or 175 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: two of the cartels, the payments they receive for transporting 176 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: illegals is now greater than the payments are getting for drugs. 177 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: That this has become an entire industry of moving people 178 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: through Mexico into the United States. Yeah, I've heard the same. 179 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: Their business is booming on both sides. So do you 180 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: have any sense in the Scrantin area of where the 181 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: people actually went to and how much they've impacted on 182 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: the local schools and the local communities. You know, unfortunately 183 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: we really do not. In my second meeting with HHS, 184 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: I stress that this is just outrageous. This meeting didn't 185 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: go as nicely and cordially as the first one, and 186 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: they were not informing us. Now, they did indicate that 187 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: the vast majority were being shuttled to the New York 188 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: metro New Jersey area, but they did admit at that 189 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: point there were many being resettled quote unquote into Pennsylvania. 190 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: And frankly, you know, they just didn't lie to me, 191 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: They lied to our governor. Our governors stated the same 192 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: prior to them finally acknowledging that they were resettling miners 193 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: into Pennsylvania. So just an absolute mess. They're trying to mitigate. 194 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: HHS a backwards policy of the Biden Pelosi planning, and 195 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: they're guilty of being involved in this and stating things 196 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: that simply they know aren't true to a member of 197 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: Congress and to the general public. As I understand that, 198 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: you've also looked into whether President Biden has been using 199 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: taxpayer money from COVID relief to bankrull the catch and 200 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: release operations. Is that where the money comes from. Yes, 201 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: that's exactly right, speaker. They're pulling the money that was 202 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: dedicated HHS for COVID relief and they're utilized it for 203 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: this purpose of transiting illegal immigrants. Doesn't that then become 204 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: an unauthorized expenditure of federal money. I certainly believe it does. 205 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: I think laws have been broken in that regard, and 206 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: I do think my orchis as the Homeland Secretary, he's 207 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: also I think not following the law related to Remain 208 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: in Mexico. I Remain in Mexico was instituted by President 209 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: Trump which called for asylum seekers to seek their asylum 210 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: in Mexico or the last country that they transferred from, 211 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: in most cases as Mexico. And not only did they 212 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: fight it in court over and over, not only did 213 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: the courts overturn it and say yes, remain in Mexico 214 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: should remain. In effect, they're still not following it. Of 215 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: the thousands and thousands of illegals who have come to 216 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: our country seeking asylum, my understanding is it's somewhere between 217 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty and four hundred individuals that's all 218 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: out of the tens of thousands that have come across 219 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: seeking asylum that have actually been returned to Mexico following 220 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: the law. So it's almost obvious that that law is 221 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: not being followed, not being enforced, and being broken. And 222 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: isn't it also accurate that the US Customs and Border 223 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: Protection data shows that they arrested more than ten thousand 224 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants with criminal convictions in twenty twenty one. Yeah, 225 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: And what's also very alarming is, and it's a smaller number, 226 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: but they have those that were on terrorist lists. And 227 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: how would they not I mean, because how would they 228 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: even know they're not carrying driver's licenses across? Some are, 229 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: but very very few. Yeah, I mean, part of it 230 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: is if you were a terrorist and you understood the 231 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: American news media, and you watched for two weeks, you'd 232 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: figure out don't try to fly into the country, just 233 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: go to Mexico and walk. We have created such an 234 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: open environment that it's astonishing how open our southern border 235 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: is and people aren't stupid. There apparently is a path. 236 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: I recently interviewed the mayor of Yuma, who had declared 237 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: an emergency because they'd had a fifteen hundred percent increase 238 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: in the number of illegal immigrants coming through his town. 239 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: And he said, there's one track that goes from Haiti 240 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: to Ecuador, up through Columbia and autumnly ends up coming 241 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: to the US. There's a second pattern which goes from 242 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: Africa into Brazil and up through Mexico to the US. 243 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: And there's a third pattern which goes from India straight 244 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: to Mexico. He said there's been a remarkable rise in 245 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: number of wealthy people who will come across the border 246 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: carrying their Gucci suitcases and go straight to the airport 247 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: and pay for their own ticket. And he said the 248 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: border is so open that it's attracting people from all 249 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: over the world. This is not just a Guatemala, Salvador, 250 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: Honduras problem. This is people around the planet or learning 251 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: that under Joe Biden, you have a chance to walk 252 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: into the US and get established. And it's so true 253 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: every word you just said. The American people need to 254 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: be aware of. And here you have President Biden over 255 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: in Poland talking about their immigration issue and comparing it 256 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: to our southern border, and nothing could be more erroneous. 257 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: We have a situation where we're creating an incentive both 258 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi's House by including amnesty in various bills regularly 259 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: and passing it on its own and largely offering some states, 260 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: particularly blue states, offering all kinds of incentives for illegals. 261 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: And meanwhile, of course, we have the best healthcare which 262 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: is largely made free to illegals. We've got a welfare 263 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: system that attracts them, we have earning opportunities, of course, 264 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: and you put amnesty in that they're under this impression 265 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: the red carpet has rolled out for illegals to the 266 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: United States and you'll receive what you need. And meanwhile 267 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: you have the cartels selling it also for their own 268 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: great financial benefit. And meanwhile, the Biden administration fails to 269 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: want to do anything, and a mister Speaker, there's not 270 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: much of a leap as to see why they're also 271 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: looking to institute that as the Democrats, what was HR 272 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: one or the federal takeover of elections. It all kind 273 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: of comes together when they want universal registration. And there's 274 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: simply no doubt that's part of it for Texas, for Arizona, 275 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: heck even for Pennsylvania having those in our country that 276 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: they believe will vote in line with the Democrats. And 277 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not one to tie so much together, 278 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: But what else is the reasoning behind this great incentive 279 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: to put people in such harm's way And the deaths 280 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: are catastrophic of those going on this treacherous track through 281 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: the Mexico Desert. So it's not a humanitarian effort. It's 282 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: more political than anything. And frankly, miss a speaker, that's 283 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: pretty much how they develop any policy, how it's politically advantageous. 284 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: One of the reasons I wanted to have this opportunity 285 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: to have you on the podcast is you didn't just 286 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: look at it or learn about it or give speeches. 287 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: You've actually introduced a bill, which is the Immigration Transparency 288 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: and Transit Notification Act, So you're really offering an opportunity 289 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: for real change, and you have fifty six co sponsors, 290 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: so you're really developing some momentum here, could you share 291 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: with us what the act would do? Yeah, thank you 292 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: very much. And in fact, we now have fifty eight 293 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: Republicans zero Democrats right now, and I'm going to really 294 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: start pressing many Democrats because it's a very rational approach. 295 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: It is modeled after a Trump executive order addressing the 296 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: secret flights as we discussed, and by increasing transparency and 297 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: truly enhancing the roles of the states. So the first 298 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: provision is providing notification before resettlement occurs so locally we 299 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: can help. And I stress this dajhs assure that the 300 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: sponsors they're going to are legitimate sponsors and not putting 301 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: the potential individual into danger. It also gives governors a 302 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: right to question and perhaps deny based upon the backgrounds 303 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: that they review. It helps ensure safety from human trafficking 304 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: by requiring the agencies to provide info about the individuals 305 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: as well as the connection to the sponsors. And it 306 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: asked for a quarterly report on womb has been delivered 307 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: and where into a state. So if we are seeking 308 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: the truth and seeking some transparency and truly want to 309 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: engage in helping based upon the erroneous and awful policies 310 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: created by the Biden administration. This bill seems quite rational well, 311 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: and from that standpoint, I would think you will eventually 312 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: get some Democrat co sponsors because it fits what needs 313 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: to be done. What sort of reaction have you gotten 314 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: from the administration? None? Speaker HHS follows their talking points frankly, 315 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: and states whatever they need to on this issue. It's 316 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: a far cry from the Trump administration. You know, I'm 317 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: only in my second term, but when the Trump administration 318 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: was there, we could get in touch with secretaries. We 319 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: can get in touch with under secretaries. I spoke with 320 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: Ben Carson to Steve Manu, not necessarily regularly, but when necessary. 321 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: Here we get very, very minimal feedback. And frankly, I 322 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: hear that from Democrats too. There's not a lot of 323 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: give and take with this Biden administration. Have you approached 324 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: the governor's yet. I would think a number of governors 325 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: would endorse this bill and would recognize as governors that 326 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: they deserve to know this information. That's an outstanding idea 327 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: I have not. I did present it and send it 328 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: to our governor here in Pennsylvania, Governor Tom Wolfe, who's 329 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: a Democrat, and showed no interest. However, that's an excellent idea, speaker, 330 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: I'll follow that up. Yeah, I suspect virtually every Republican 331 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: governor will endorse it, and conceivably some of the Democrats. 332 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: You'll under enormous pressure from just a sheer flow of commigration. 333 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: I have to ask you, what's something else? Because you 334 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: serve on the Foreign Affairs Committee, and I just am 335 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: curious about your reaction to what you see happening in 336 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: Ukraine and to President Biden's confused usuon recently about whether 337 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: or not he really wants Putin to go, or whether 338 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: he didn't actually mean go when he said go and 339 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: all that. What's your general feeling from what you've learned 340 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: on foreign affairs? Well, we stay in regular contact. Obviously, 341 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: we have our share of classified and unclassified meetings. I 342 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: believe I'm gaining a tremendous amount of insight. I think 343 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that we all believe that Ukraine needs 344 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: to stay free. We're at a pivotal moment perhaps in history, 345 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: between tyranny and freedom, autocracy and democracy. I think the 346 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 1: Ukrainians have really surprised almost everybody. They seemed to have 347 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: surprised Putin and they certainly surprised the Biden administration as well, 348 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: because they were in line thinking the Ukrainians would be 349 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: overrun within just a few days. And I don't want 350 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: to just be critical for the sake of being critical, 351 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: but we're clearly leading from behind. Germany initially was whistling 352 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: through the graveyard, but they dove in finally with some weapons, 353 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: and once they did that, we engage stronger. Certainly the 354 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: escalating sanctions have been effective, but you could argue too little, 355 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: too late. These warnings, these threats, frankly, should have been 356 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: delivered to putin early on war gaming it. If you 357 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: surround Kiev, if you indiscriminately murder and kill civilians, he 358 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: should have been informed, because I don't even think he 359 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: expected goal of this, and so we're in it in 360 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: a big way. Over the weekend, we're talking with the 361 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: Polish Parliament. I hope to make my way over there 362 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: within the next week or two. I'm very interested in 363 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: going over there and assisting in every way possible. But 364 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: as you just stated this week, leadership that we have 365 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: out of the White House is a real problem. When 366 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: the President United States, the commander in chief, stands in 367 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: front of our US troops and says when you're going 368 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: to be in the Ukraine or in paraphrasing, but that 369 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: was pretty much what was heard when he calls for 370 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: a regime change at the end of his speech. Look, 371 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about offending Putin. I think we should 372 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: be putting him on his heels and let them know 373 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: we're going to provide everything short of direct conflict with 374 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: the Putent Army. I hate to even call it the 375 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: Russian army the Putin army. Yet having misstatements made by 376 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: the commander in chief is very troubling and can be 377 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: very dangerous, can inadvertently create a worse situation than even 378 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: if we did provide the aircraft that Zelinski's asking for. 379 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: It sets us back, and it's no time for setbacks. 380 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: We got to be helping the Ukrainians, and we've got 381 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: to help them help themselves, which is largely what's happened here. 382 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: They are more helping themselves than anything else. But they 383 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: can't do it without NATO support and weapons and humanitarian aid. 384 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: So hopefully Putin is seeing defeat and just going to 385 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: try to save what he can and say face if 386 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: you will, he's a war criminal, so I hope he 387 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: gets what he deserves. Well, listen, I really appreciate your 388 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: service to the country. We're going to on our show 389 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: page indicate to people how they can contact their members 390 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: of the House. Do you have any indications yet of 391 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: having a parallel sponsor in the Senate, because I do 392 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: think this is a very very important and very useful bill. Yeah, 393 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: we have a couple of possibilities right now, Speaker. I 394 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: really appreciate your helping get word out on this important bill. 395 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: We met and you provided that encouragement, and I appreciate that. So, yeah, 396 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: this is something that could make a difference and bring 397 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: some sanity to the allocation of these illegals. So I'll 398 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: continue to give you updates as we go. I have 399 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: to say that when I first met you and had 400 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: a chance to chat about this, this is a topic 401 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: which has been growing in my own thinking because the 402 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: whole idea that your government not only allows people to 403 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: come across the border with stopping them, but then puts 404 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: them on airplanes at night, ships them around the country, 405 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: doesn't tell any local officials, doesn't report to the Congress. 406 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a level of lawlessness that's just crazy. 407 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: And your Immigration Transparency and Transit Notification Act is a 408 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: really important step in the right direction. So I'm going 409 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: to do all I can to make sure that people 410 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: know about it. And I really appreciate Dan You're coming 411 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: on our podcast and letting people know what you're up 412 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: to and why it's so important to the country. Well speaker, 413 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: you are quite a great American. That's truly my honor. 414 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: I look forward to continued conversations and all the help 415 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: you can provide our country. It's nice knowing I can 416 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: reach out to you and get your advice. So thank 417 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 1: you very much. 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