1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: the bonus with Doug gottlie. 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: What the bottle run? Welcome, Welcome in. I got some 4 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: stories here, Jase Doo and I want to run by 5 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: and you tell me which ones you like. Okay, we'll 6 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: talk about the h of course, full charger naj Harris 7 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: Uh suffers an eye injury to the fireworks because well 8 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: because he's a charger. I do you like this story 9 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: with the NBA analyst says that Deandreton hated Portland? Right? 10 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: He truly hated again, But that's Jason McIntyre is getting 11 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: quoted as an NBA analyst. How do we get to 12 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: that place? Do you know how we got to that place? 13 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: I have no idea. This is one of those things 14 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: to where like just be am I a hockey analyst 15 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: when I talk about hockey on the radio. I would 16 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: hope not, you know, like when we're running through stories 17 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: to talk about in the radio show. I love the 18 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes saying I'm not a big fan of eighteen games. Well, 19 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 2: you guys signed up in the new CBA which allows 20 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: them to play eighteen games. Is anybody ever gonna give back? 21 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: Any money. The answer is no. What about this one? 22 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: Did you see this? Dallas Turner transferred two hundred and 23 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars to a fraudulent account, Like, man, how 24 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: about that one? Did you read this story? Okay? So 25 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: he's a first round pick of the Minnesota Vikings and 26 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: he received a call from somebody impersonating a JP Morgan 27 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: chase on February nineteenth. So he transferred two hundred and 28 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars to the account. By the way, he 29 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: transferred it to Island Food Truck LLC and CNL LLC. 30 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: What why? Yeah? I mean again, something about this story 31 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: doesn't add up? Like, hey, I got it, Yeah, you 32 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: gotta send any money? Okay? Who am? JP? Morgan says? Sure? 33 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: What am I sending money to Island Food Truck LLC? 34 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: That story does not add up. I mean, either you're 35 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: really not a very bright person, or you thought you 36 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: were investing in something that's gonna make money and somebody 37 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: ran off with the money. Which one of those two 38 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: do you believe? 39 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: Jasu, Yeah, probably the ladder. 40 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yep, uh. You know the We'll talk a 41 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: little bit in the pod about Kirk Cousins on the 42 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: quarterback series. But the one thing that's really interesting is 43 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: is there anything left for the series to focus on. 44 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: There's a tennis one, there's a golf one, there's a 45 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: football one, there's a basketball one. I don't know if 46 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: there's a hockey one. There is a Red Sox one. 47 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: I watched that one that was pretty good. We actually 48 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: have a docuseries following us for college basketball next year. 49 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: Has not been bought by Netflix, but they're one of 50 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: the bidders for it. What what else did Like if 51 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: we could, if you and I were sit down and go, hey, 52 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: let's produce a docu series which will let somebody in 53 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: on something they don't know about. What would what would 54 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: this the sport that has not been covered b. 55 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: I've always said that there's a I don't even know 56 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: if it's a docu series as much as it's a 57 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 4: drama series. Like now that the w n b A 58 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: has gotten more relevant, it. 59 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: Would be going Sophie Sophie County. 60 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 4: Stories reveal all the stories, the inner team romances, outer 61 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: team romances, the black verst white, straight versus first gay, 62 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 4: like there has to be stories of gays trying to 63 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 4: turn out the straits and just throw it all into 64 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 4: one drama series. 65 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: I think that's pretty good. The only thing about it 66 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: is while it could make the w NBA more relevant, 67 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: it could break the w NBA as well, because they 68 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: like again, the players do not handle clearly can't handle 69 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: that level of attention on anybody. 70 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 4: What was the NFL drama series that the that Goodell 71 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: put an end to playmakers? 72 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 3: Playmakers? 73 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was that was a fictional, nonfictional right, 74 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: and now again these are all docuseries. 75 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 4: No specifically say that I wouldn't mind it. If this 76 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 4: was scripted drama, then you can do you. 77 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: Want to scripted drum, you can get more. I don't 78 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: want scripted drama. I want unscripted. No, I know I want. 79 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: I think unscripted. It is plenty slicious, plenty plenty. And 80 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: by the way, whoever could do it? If you could 81 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: get Angel Reese miked up and fall around, she'd love it, 82 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: She'd love the attention. But I you know, I don't 83 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: know if it would help her as much as she'd 84 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: want help her. But I also think she'd do it. 85 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: Angel Reese, Sophie Cunningham. And then we need one somebody 86 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: who's kind of hardcore old school hates, all the hates, 87 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 2: the Caitlin Clark attention to be somebody on there as well, 88 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: would't that be amazing? 89 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: What's that chick's name? Dijon A. Carrington? 90 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: Sure I had some dejon A. 91 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, she seemn't really love the camera. 92 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: She does? She does? I like that. 93 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 94 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 95 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 96 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: Let get to what the Fox Says, and now every 97 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: day of this time that Doug Gotlib show. In the 98 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: Bonus podcast, we play for your previous porshit of a 99 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Trader or a Fox Sports one show. We 100 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: call it what does the Fox Say? This is Dan 101 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: Patrick talk about Cooper Flagg's debut. 102 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 5: And it is the first day of the tournament Summer League. 103 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 5: Did watch a little bit of that with Cooper Flag 104 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 5: Ronnie James, And you know, there's a lot of report 105 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 5: cards that'll come in on Cooper Flag. And I look 106 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: at this and sometimes I overreact to the Summer League 107 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 5: and probably will with Cooper Flag, he. 108 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: Shot twenty one times. 109 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 5: I think he might have had one game at Duke 110 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 5: where he took more than twenty one shots in a game. 111 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 5: I was surprised at the volume. But what I look 112 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 5: for is where are those shots. I don't think he's 113 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 5: a three point shooter yet, but he's eighteen years of age. 114 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 5: I mean, Vince Carter didn't become one until what year fifteen? 115 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 5: Jason Kidd became a pretty good, reliable three point shooter 116 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 5: Lebron it took him a while, Brook Slow Paz took 117 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 5: him a while to become a good three point shooting 118 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 5: big man. So it's gonna take a little while for 119 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 5: Cooper Flag obviously, but he was getting his shot. But 120 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 5: he gave me intangibles. He gave me offense, defense, gave 121 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 5: me a passing, he gave me rebounding. But he also 122 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 5: gave me court presence. 123 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: That's what I'm looking for. 124 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's there's a thing there. And we 125 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: talked about a little bit in the open of the 126 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: radio show. But I understand if you see the raw numbers, 127 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: like why didn't shoot the ball up? Okay, he missed. 128 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: He missed a dunk or two, right, it's kind of 129 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: part of it, Like you make a dunk, missed a duck. 130 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: But when you evaluate a basketball player, you cannot solely 131 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: evaluate based upon whether the ball goes in or doesn't 132 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: go in. And again, just you're gonna have to trust 133 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: me on this one. I understand that you can listen 134 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: to the podcast you want, four games whatever, like, okay, 135 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: it's fine. I thought we did a good job the 136 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 2: most part of evaluating guys that we had the ability 137 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: to evaluate, and then we've done a better job this year. 138 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: And one of the things you learn in evaluating, especially 139 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: now with the with the portal, so much of it's 140 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: done with video and everybody has a highlight taping. You 141 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: watch that highlight tap, you're like, holy shit, why is 142 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: this guy still available? And then you watch the whole 143 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: game and you're like, oh, okay, well he's just got 144 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: a guy. If you watched, for example, Bronnie James had 145 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: two buckets in a row with Cooper Flag guarding him. 146 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: You know, one where they kind of go below the 147 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 2: handoff and he steps into a three one really nice 148 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: step back in the mid range. You're like, if you 149 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: just watch those two, you're like, hmm, okay, he had 150 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: a nice drive having kickoff for a dunk as well. 151 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: You're like, whooh, okay, there was a play in which 152 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: he was tremendous defensive, but you look at the whole 153 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: game and he doesn't stick out. Cooper Flag, on the 154 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: other hand, a miss shots, but he jumps out to 155 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: you as one confident, two skilled to get his shot three. 156 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: You can tell there's something there. Does he have to 157 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: have a little bit better shots? Section? Sure? Is he 158 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: gonna play against better players? Yeah? Do they have to 159 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: figure out how can we actually use him at this level? 160 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: But court presence is a very smart way of saying, 161 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: like they just a dude jumps off the page at you, 162 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: whereas just a regular guy doesn't unless it's in highlight 163 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: for him. Here's Jason McIntyre talk about DeAndre Ayton. 164 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 6: The Lakers made a big splash here in the last 165 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 6: week picking. 166 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: Up DeAndre Ayton, and. 167 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 6: I know a lot of people instantly poop pooed this 168 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 6: deal as out, this is no big deal. 169 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,359 Speaker 1: Hayton's a malcontent. 170 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 6: He would come out of games and slam chairs down, 171 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 6: He'd be late to rehab. This is how much DeAndre 172 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 6: Ayton hated it in Portland. He forfeited ten million dollars 173 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 6: to get out of town. Let's just say DeAndre Ayton 174 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 6: through his first seven seasons is kind of sort of 175 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 6: a top eight center in the league. 176 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, look at these stats right here, fifteen 177 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: and ten and fifty. 178 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 6: Percent shooting in the last seven seasons. Jokich is an MVP, 179 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 6: Giannis is an MVP. AD's all NBA duell Embiid has 180 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 6: an MVP. These are all great players. DeAndre Ayton's in 181 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 6: that class with them. He just obviously was in Portland, 182 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 6: so nobody paid attention. 183 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: Jason's so excited, patience behind stay off the weed. Yeah, look, 184 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: DeAndre Ayton is not a bad basketball player. But part 185 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 2: of the malcontent stuff he's talking about is going back, 186 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: obviously Tuesdays in Phoenix this year. He was on a 187 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: bad team in Portland. He's not a room protector defensively, 188 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: and he's not really a lob threat. What he is 189 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: is a guy you can throw the ball to on 190 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: rolls and he can really score. And the reason that 191 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: he's making far less money than those are the guys 192 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: is he doesn't affect winning that much. Now, it could 193 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: be easy to point out that the Phoenix Suns went 194 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: to the NBA Finals with DeAndre Ayden as their starting center. 195 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 2: This did happen, but it's also important to point out, 196 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: also important to point out that DeAndre Ayton got run 197 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 2: out out of Phoenix. DeAndre Aton is You just can't 198 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: look at stats and raw data and say this is 199 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 2: who he is. One, there's a reason he was available for, 200 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: you know, less than twenty million dollars a year. Right, 201 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: there's a reason that guys are available for that much. 202 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 2: And he's not old, and he hasn't been in some 203 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 2: of its attitude, but a lot of it is. Again, 204 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: if you watch highlight tapes, that's one player. If you 205 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 2: just watch him scoring ninety basketball is played without the 206 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: ball in your hands, and those are the parts that 207 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: the DeAndre Atan just doesn't affect the game that much. 208 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, Jay, breathe, breathe. Here's Rob Parker. He had 209 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: this message for RG three. 210 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: Here's my biggest thing to start. 211 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 7: First of all, you don't have to be involved in 212 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 7: everything that people like. You don't have to respond to everything. 213 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 7: Number number But that's number two. Number one. Why would 214 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 7: you retweet a racist picture like that and give it 215 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 7: any more exposure or life? 216 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: Am I Kelvin? Am I wrong? 217 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: How do you how do you retweet that picture? 218 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 7: No, if you want to, if some brought your attention, 219 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 7: I'm not going to uh give the person who just 220 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 7: did that more exposure by putting it on my timeline 221 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 7: and my millions of follow over how many people? He asked, 222 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 7: what is he thinking? 223 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: He was talking about RG three what he put on 224 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: his timeline. 225 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's this long, convoluted thing with this story, right. 226 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: RG three initially came out and said that Angel Reese's 227 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 4: camp told him that she hates Caitlin Clark personally. Angel 228 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 4: Reese put out a tweet saying, all these lies people 229 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 4: talking about talking to people in my inner circle. At 230 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 4: some point, some very derogatory racist image was posted on Twitter. 231 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 4: RG three reposted it and maybe took it down, and 232 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 4: then followed up with tweets that said, you should never 233 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 4: depict anyone as a monkey. That's racist, And then he 234 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 4: doubled down on the fact that someone in the inner 235 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 4: circle told him that she hates Caitlin Clark personally. But 236 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 4: I think the most important thing in this entire story, Doug, 237 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 4: is that our ESPN's Ryan Clark had the final work. 238 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 8: By his own admission, he says, if you don't support 239 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 8: people that don't look like you, then you're a part 240 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 8: of the problem. Let me be clear, if you never 241 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 8: support people that look like you, you are also a 242 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 8: part of the problem. God made us with the responsibility 243 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 8: for inclusion and compassion and empathy and love for all people. 244 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 8: We also have that same responsibility for our people. I 245 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 8: know people were mad that I apologized for my initial statements, 246 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 8: but I wanted to make sure people had clarity about 247 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 8: what I was saying. But while we're on apologies, we 248 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 8: all owe Rob Parker an apology because though he was early, 249 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 8: he was right about RG three. 250 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: Mmmm mmmm. So he's calling him a cornball brother, right, 251 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: do we know what? Like? Are we all good with whatever? 252 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: What a cornball brother is? I? 253 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: I honestly don't know what the term is. I just 254 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 4: think that a couple of white guys talking about this 255 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 4: probably is out of school. But I just find it 256 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 4: funny that Ryan Clark wanted the last word and he 257 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 4: paid tribute to our guy, Rob Parker. 258 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: It is amazing. The whole thing is amazing. The whole 259 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: thing is amazing. I have my own thoughts on the 260 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: on the the Rob Parker thing, which I'll share with 261 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: you in a second, Well, actually I could share with 262 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: you here. You know, I thought the part that was 263 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: honestly where stephen A lost me a long time ago. 264 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: It was if you have a if you have a 265 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: a show which wants to focus on race, and you 266 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: have a black calmness who you selected to be on 267 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: the show, and then he says something, If you disagree 268 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: with it, you're allowed to disagree with it. But it 269 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: was the left him, hung him out to dry, hung 270 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: him out to dry, and wasn't like, again, that is 271 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: actually the show that you can have that discussion on. 272 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: That was like the perfect place. You know. Look, sometimes 273 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: it's like you said, two white guy's talking about it. No, 274 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: that not the show doesn't make sense. But Rob Parker 275 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: on first take back in the day, like that was 276 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: the one where they could have gone back and forth. 277 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: I haven't heard that in the black community community right, 278 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: which is what Rob Parker said. But yeah, I mean 279 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: Ryan Clark is he's taking that show to make it 280 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: into his career where everything becomes about race. That's what 281 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: the Fox said. 282 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 283 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 284 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 285 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: Let's find out who what is annoying Jason Stewart. 286 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying. 287 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 3: It, Doug. 288 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 4: Just so our listeners are up to speed on this, 289 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 4: and tell me if I'm mischaracterizing on your take on 290 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 4: the So we had this conversation last week about fireworks, 291 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 4: and my takeaway is that it's for simple rubes, and 292 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: yours is like, yeah, I agree with that, but I 293 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: want to be a simple rube on July fourth, I like, 294 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 4: I want to do that. 295 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 3: I want to blow things up. 296 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, but after July fourth, don't be simple rubes because 297 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 4: I have dogs and I need you to end your 298 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 4: delinkquency after July fourth. 299 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: No, I gave people the weekend because fourth July was 300 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: on a Friday. Just again, to be fair, some of 301 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 2: it is time dependent, but once you get after the weekend, really, 302 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: once you get to Sunday night, like, we're good here. 303 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 4: Nase Harris is a new running back for the Chargers, 304 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 4: formerly of the Steelers. I like the guy. I think 305 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: we've found him on the show a couple of times. 306 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 4: He seems like a nice kid, but he got into 307 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: a fireworks accident. Now every bit of information that we 308 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 4: received over the last twenty four hours about this has 309 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 4: been through his agent, So you take that with a 310 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: grain of salt. Right, He says, Nase suffered superficial injury 311 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 4: to his eye during a fireworks incident. And I guess 312 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 4: it came out later that there were multiple injuries to 313 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 4: other people in this incident. But the agent says he'll 314 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: be ready to go for training camp. 315 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: Again. This from the agent, so. 316 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 4: After the whole JPP thing happened, and you think that 317 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 4: that would be like a very obvious cautionary tale for 318 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 4: any NFL player or for anybody, any any person in general, 319 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 4: that maybe I shouldn't fuck with fireworks. Naje Harris suffers 320 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 4: a firework injury on July fourth. 321 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, I once. I I with a superficial injury. 322 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: By the way, superficial is a word that I don't 323 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: think people know that what it means. I know that 324 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: because I was asked by like, oh, what about Nase Harris, right, 325 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: And I was like, well, it's just a superficial injury, 326 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: Like well, that's bad, Like, well, no, it's not. Superficial 327 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 2: means it looks worse than it actually is. Right, By 328 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: the way, A superficial injury is a wound that primarily 329 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 2: affects the outermost layer of the skin, the epidermis, without 330 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: penetrating deeper injuries. Right, it's light cuts, light earns, scrapes, 331 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: it'll heal. You're fine. Now. The fact that it comes 332 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: from his agent does like every agent is going to 333 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 2: downplay how bad anything is. But that actually is the 334 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: point you made to start, which is interesting, which is 335 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: we've had Nase Harrison. Najie Haris is a really bright dude. 336 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: His his success or failure in the NFL is not 337 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: based upon his intelligence. I think it's more based upon 338 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: his talent. Right with the idea that he was a 339 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: stud at Alabama because he was behind the best offensively, 340 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 2: he's a good not great player, and then behind a 341 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: more average to blow average offensive line with Pittsburgh Steelers. 342 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: He was just a guy, right, But no one's ever 343 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: said like, hey, he's a dope. No, actually quite the opposite. 344 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 2: But to your point, here's a smart guy, right West 345 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: Coast guy seems to have his head on his shoulders, 346 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 2: who did something really stupid or went to a party 347 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: where other guys were doing something really stupid, which tracks 348 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: it tracks it's the even smart people like to be dumb. Sometimes. 349 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: The problem with fireworks is when you're dumb around fireworks, 350 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: you can get really badly hurt. 351 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 4: So you talked about this on the radio show. It's 352 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 4: a there's this long piece as Ramona Showborne tends to 353 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 4: be long. Yes with Brian Windhorst today. Yeah, I think 354 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 4: she's given, she's reached that point of full autonomy. You 355 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: could write as many words as you want, Ramona, and 356 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 4: so among the you know, poetic illusions and you know, 357 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 4: describing how musty it was the morning that Luca was 358 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 4: traded and all that stuff. She did give some good 359 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 4: details with Windhorst about the dynamic between the Lakers and Lebron, 360 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: and you had your opinion on it. But this, remember 361 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 4: my initial kind of angle on this was that Lebron 362 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 4: James's relationship with Laker fans has always been transactional. There's 363 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 4: been zero emotion. He's the he is the two consenting 364 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 4: adults that have a transactional sexual relationship. I buy you dinner, 365 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 4: you have sex with me. We're consensing adults and we 366 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 4: go on with our lives. Lakers fans do not feel 367 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 4: any emotion towards the guy, and he doesn't feel any 368 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 4: emotion towards the Laker fans, and this story, the bottom 369 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 4: line is this, the Lakers kind of made it clear 370 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 4: indirectly that they probably didn't need him back, didn't want 371 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 4: him for any longer than next year. And you know, 372 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 4: they had a meeting with Luca without Lebron, and there 373 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 4: were feelings hurt, and then all of a sudden, Lebron 374 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 4: opted in for the I guess the only reason was 375 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 4: to stick it to the Lakers, and by extension, stick 376 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 4: it to the Lakers fans because they don't have a 377 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 4: whole lot of room to spend and everything else. So again, 378 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 4: if this is if this is Lebron's last act as 379 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 4: a Laker, then it's the last act was a fuck 380 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 4: you to Lakers fans that I never really cared about anyways. 381 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I think that's a it's it's a great point. 382 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 2: I think this is you. You're not listening to me anymore, 383 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: So I'm going to pout about it, you know, and 384 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick it to you by making fifty three 385 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 2: million dollars. None of that, by the way, speaks to 386 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: I win a champ. I want to win a championship. Ken, 387 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: I don't I understand that when you read this article 388 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: and I as Jay Stud's like you got to read it. 389 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: I read it. You read it and you're like, wow, 390 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: that kind of moving off of Lebron I do get it. Well, 391 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: let's go back to last summer, you know, where they 392 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: were all forced to kind of lie and put out 393 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: these feelers and say lots of people were, oh, lots 394 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 2: of teams were thinking about drafting Bronnie James. I'm going 395 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: to restate this. They did not have to draft Bronnie 396 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: James and still get Bronnie James. They did so because 397 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 2: it looks better, feels better, and that's what Rich Paul 398 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 2: and his crew, that's what they wanted. They very easily 399 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: could have signed him as an undrafted player and he 400 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: could have had the exact what he could add whatever 401 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: you wanted in terms of contract as well. That was 402 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 2: for optics alone. And oh yeah, by the way, it 403 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: also costs the Lakers probably four or five million dollars. 404 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: That's the value of a second round draft pick, maybe 405 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 2: a little bit less late. But again you're like, why 406 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: is the second round draft pick valuable? Because whoever you 407 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: drafted the second round that doesn't hurt you against the 408 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: salary cap, so it has those picks are actually bought 409 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 2: and sold on a yearly basis. Additionally, in a game 410 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 2: of four year guaranteed contract. I just think there's some 411 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 2: you know that the the James group, Uh, everywhere they 412 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 2: go they try and take it over, and again the 413 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 2: downside to that is when they no longer want you 414 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: to take it over, and then they don't want you 415 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: part of any decision making because every decision Lebron wants 416 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: to have his hands in, yet doesn't want to get 417 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 2: the responsibility for if that makes any sense. So I 418 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: do read this and I understand that it looks damn 419 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: Lakers just they turned off on and they're all Team Luca. 420 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 2: But I do think a portion of it is how 421 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 2: they've handled it before. And I can tell you that 422 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: the Bronni James thing just does not say well with 423 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: a lot of people. 424 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 4: In the week, there was reporting on and I don't 425 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 4: even know if it was reporting, It was just people 426 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 4: started watching that new Quarterback season on Netflix, and the 427 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 4: big news item was that Cousins says he felt misled 428 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 4: by the Falcons when they drafted Pennix and then they 429 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 4: go a little further. Well, Charles Robinson took a couple 430 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 4: more quotes from the series. I don't know if these 431 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: episodes are being delayed and released or whatever, but the 432 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 4: new the new quotes provided by Charles Robinson is Kirk 433 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 4: Cousins saying I heard somebody describing it as when you 434 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 4: see someone dating the person you used to date in 435 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 4: like high school or college, You're like, I used to 436 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 4: throw to Jordan Addison and Justin Jefferson, and now someone 437 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 4: else is doing that. That's interesting, he says. And then 438 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 4: he goes on to be like, you know, I've been 439 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 4: asked why, why did what was it about Atlanta that 440 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 4: wanted that made you want to leave? And he's like, 441 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 4: that's the wrong question. I didn't want to leave. And 442 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 4: then he goes into how Minnesota wouldn't offer him more 443 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 4: than more than one year or as a low ball offer. 444 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 4: It's really interesting on two aspects. I thought this Netflix 445 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 4: quarterback series would be boring. I think they could have 446 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 4: subtitled it three white zeros who play quarterback. And then 447 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 4: Kirk is taking a strange media approach. I remember when 448 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 4: we had him on back in on the Jim Rome Show, 449 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 4: back at Michigan State. I thought his whole thing was like, 450 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 4: I want to be a doctor after I'm done playing. 451 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 4: He seemed like a different guy, like he's just he's 452 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 4: a smart guy. But I don't know if he was 453 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 4: not given media training on this or what, because these 454 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 4: quotes just come off as like a just something that 455 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 4: you shouldn't say out loud in front of like regular 456 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 4: working people, Like I can see if you're sitting at 457 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 4: a dinner table with other quarterbacks that have eight figures 458 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 4: in the bank, then you start complaining about low ball 459 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 4: offerers and all these things when you've already got hundreds 460 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 4: of millions of dollars in the bank. But to me, 461 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: this is a strange media strategy. Agreeing to do this series, 462 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 4: you would think that you would want to kind of 463 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 4: get ready for the next part of your life, broadcast life. 464 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 4: And then he's admitting these things that are really kind 465 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 4: of putting him in a bad light and showing that 466 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 4: he doesn't have a whole lot of self awareness. Interesting 467 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 4: and odd decision. 468 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 2: Here, super interesting in odd decision, right, I mean, that's 469 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: that's just a weird one to me, super weird one. 470 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: I think that this is it's I think the kirk 471 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: Cousins thing, though he does the Tuesday no phone walk 472 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: with us, why you spend time with her? I think 473 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: that's admirable. Can I think his religious background is admirable. 474 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 2: I think this is augy shucks, But there is always 475 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: I don't know how you feel about organized religion, but 476 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: there's always a all right, what's really the angle here? 477 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: And I do think that as much as that, as 478 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: much as he it tries to be the aug I 479 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: was kind of done wrong here. This is when you 480 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: made that much money and you've dictated your terms as 481 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: much as he's dictated his terms. I don't have any 482 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: sympathy for Kirk Cousins, and I do think there's a 483 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 2: little bit of of just a little bit of local 484 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: pastor to that. I'm not sure I totally buy the 485 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: sale as much as I bought the sale in the 486 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: in the first season of the QB. 487 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 4: Now J Harris having a fireworks injury, the Kirk Cousins situation, 488 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 4: the Lebron James situation. 489 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, Lebron James. I'm gonna go with Kirk Cousins, 490 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: because again, Kirk Cousins talking about something where he's not 491 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: really being totally honest about even where the vikings were 492 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: with him? 493 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: Is why are we doing this because we can? 494 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 4: Hey, for a second straight day, William neuschwer Clark one 495 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 4: of my all time favorite baseball hitters. He's gonna make 496 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 4: because we can. Because when he gets on his podcast 497 00:29:58,960 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 4: with Eric. 498 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: Burns, he's just whatever the fuck. 499 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 4: He just lets it rip. And in the crosshairs this 500 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 4: time is I want to say his name is Dave Fleming. Now, 501 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 4: Dave Fleming originally was the Red Sox play by play 502 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 4: guy that went on the Boston radio station and told 503 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 4: the story about how Raphael Devers was blown off Will Clark. Yesterday, 504 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 4: Will Clark confirmed that he did that, and now now 505 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 4: he's got a problem with Fleming's representation of the whole thing. 506 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 9: I just got to tell you right now, I says, 507 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 9: it's a bunch of bullshit. 508 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 3: That's first off. 509 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 9: Second off, you know, hey, look, you know that was 510 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 9: that was, let's see, my first encounter with Raphael Devers. 511 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 9: So I didn't even know him before, you know, those 512 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 9: two or three days that I spent in San Francisco. 513 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 9: So you know, Raffee and I are fine. 514 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna work with him. 515 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 9: You know, whenever I get around to first base and 516 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 9: all that, and Will Fleming, you can go fuck off, motherfucker. 517 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 9: All right, you wanna fucking take a Converse station and 518 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 9: we're having and then blow it out of proportion because 519 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 9: you're fucking East Coast piece of shit reporter. 520 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: Fuck off. 521 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: O great is that guy? Oh my god? What can 522 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: we play it for you? Because we can't. Oh, Will Clark, 523 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: he was a gem as a hitter and uh yeah, 524 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: oh I love that Silver Talk. That's it for the 525 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 2: end of Modus Podcast. It's Doug Gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio.