1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: by the one the only Western Hodkowitz. Were coming to 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: you hear from our studios at lambeau Field talking about 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: Packers Lions, which will take place at Ford Field in 6 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: Detroit on Sunday. It's a noon Central Time kickoff and west. 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: When you look at this one and six Lions team, 8 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: there's one statistic that absolutely jumps off the page. In 9 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: four home games, the Lions have scored a hundred and 10 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: forty three points nearly thirty six per game. In three 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: road games, they've scored just thirty points, only ten per game. Well, 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: this game is at Ford Field, the Lions are at home, 13 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: and that is the explosive offense that the Packers are 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: preparing for the greatest show on turf. But nowhere else. Listen, 15 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: UM in that very spot over there. I know Justin 16 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: and Marvin can't pan over there right now, but Larry 17 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: McKern and I did our three Things video on Wednesday 18 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: evening and Larry put it out there bluntly. You can't 19 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: take this Lions team lightly. For that reason, UM to 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: also quote Larry, their defense is the pits. I mean 21 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: they are basically bottom of everything. But offensively, uh, particularly 22 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: as you illustrated when they're at Ford Field, this team 23 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: can play with anybody. And Kenny Clark was kind of 24 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: outlining this a little bit for him. He thought it 25 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: starts a lot with their offensive line, a lot of 26 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: resources they've invested there that has helped their run game 27 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: improve over the last few years. Certainly back that is 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,279 Speaker 1: as stable and consistent as Jamal Williams. That has given 29 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: them sort of a foundation to build their offense. And 30 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,279 Speaker 1: if you go back and look at Jared Goff throughout 31 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: his career, that is when he really has excelled when 32 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: he's had a back that he can play off of 33 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: and create downfield opportunities. Now, amandros st Brown has been 34 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: banged up here for them as of late. They just 35 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: traded t J. Hockenson, so it's gonna be interesting to 36 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: see which playmakers step up for them, especially with DeAndre 37 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: Swift still missing practices. But you can't overlook this Lions 38 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: team there one in six. But there's a lot of 39 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: dangerous looking statistics in that statue. Yeah, you mentioned Jared 40 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: Goff and I think that the thing and and coupled 41 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: with that running game, Jared Goff so far this season 42 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: through seven games has a ninety three point to passer rating. 43 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: That is his best passer rating since two thousand and eighteen. 44 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: For all of the um uh, you know, all all 45 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: of the uh you know gruff he's taken from fans 46 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: for for not living up to that you know, to 47 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: his draft status over the course of his career, Jared 48 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: Goff is putting together his best season in in quite 49 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: a while. They did get DeAndre Swift back last week 50 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: in a limited role um per. Perhaps he's still going 51 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: to be available this week. Don't know, but DeAndre Swift 52 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: in limited action this year because of injuries, is averaging 53 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: seven point four yards per carry. I mean, this is 54 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: a guy who's taking chunks of the field when he 55 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,559 Speaker 1: gets an opportunity. You mentioned Jamal Williams eight rushing touchdowns, 56 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: which ranks second in the league. UM in rushing touchdowns, 57 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: I believe it's Chubb from Cleveland with ten is on 58 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: top of the league. Jamal Williams has eight, but no 59 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: t J. Hockenson because of the trade to the Minnesota Vikings. 60 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see if a whole lot really changes 61 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: with regard to Detroit's offense, or if it's just okay, 62 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: Hockinson is not available, so you put in a tight 63 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: end to you know, it's it's are they just gonna 64 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: do a plug and play type of thing and try 65 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: to try to continue that or is there going to 66 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: be a little bit more of a radical or wholesale 67 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: change because you don't have T. J. Hockenson in the 68 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: mix anymore. I'm not sure which way they're going to 69 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: go especial really on short notice. Well, Mike, I'm gonna 70 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: have to be a hundred honest with you. I have 71 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: no idea who brock Wright and James Mitchell are. I 72 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: don't either, which is why I didn't even bring up 73 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: the names, but you called him up on your surface tablets. 74 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, I have paid a lot of 75 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: attention to Hawkinson this year, the huge game he had 76 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago being the primary target for Jared 77 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: Goff three ninety five yards so far this season, that 78 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: was that was tops on the Lions. Now, I mean 79 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: a monros st Brown and Josh Reynolds both over three 80 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: hundred yards as well, but yardage wise, Hockinson was number 81 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: one on their lists. Yeah, and in golf. I mean, 82 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: you just watched the games. Mike when he needed a receiver, 83 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: when he needed to go to guy, it was Hockinson. 84 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: So I'm very interested to see who steps up in 85 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: that spot for them right now, because as difficult as 86 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: things have been offensive or defensively for them, offensively is 87 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: why they've been able to stay in a lot of 88 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: these games. And you know, you look at the fact 89 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: that they went, you know, up the thirty five with 90 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles in Week one, a game that I 91 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: thought everybody was probably overlooking at the beginning of the 92 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: season because it's like, Okay, how good are the Eagles 93 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: gonna be this year? But doesn't really matter they're going 94 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: up against the Lions. And then suddenly the Lions kind 95 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: of opened some eyes, and I think if you win 96 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: through those first second or third weeks of the season, 97 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: people actually really like, you know, Detroit's chances this year 98 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: in the second year under Dan Campbell. But games have 99 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: gotten away from them. As you said, on the road, 100 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: they've really struggled, and defensively across the board, they haven't 101 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: been able to stop anybody. So how this offense reacts 102 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: is what I'm really interested to see because I know 103 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: the quotes out this week from Brad Holmes about their 104 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: general manager. You know, we would have done this trade 105 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: if we were six and one two. I beg to 106 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: disagree with that. I mean, second and you know, fifth 107 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 1: round picks. Whatever it ended up being. It's good equity. 108 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: I get it. But t J. Hockenson was the eighth 109 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: overall pick a couple of years ago. He was a 110 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: guy that was showing, in my opinion, legitimate playmaking Pro 111 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: Bowl potential when he's been healthy, when he hasn't had 112 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: some you know, there's been some concussions and stuff to 113 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: take him away from this offense now, I just I'm 114 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,679 Speaker 1: just very curious how the Lions respond to that, because 115 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: that's a pretty vivid message that you're sending to your 116 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 1: organization that not only are we probably going to continue 117 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 1: this rebuild when you take away a guy that's twenty 118 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: five years old or whatever, Hockinson, is that that that 119 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: kind of tells you that we still feel like we're 120 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: a lot farther away than maybe we were hoping at 121 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. Yeah, it was a curious move, 122 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: and you make and you make a good point as 123 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: far as how how is the locker room, how are 124 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: the players going to react to that seeing a major 125 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: piece even though they're one and there, one and six. 126 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: But they've been right in a lot of games. They've 127 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: lost three shootouts at home. You know the game you 128 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: mentioned with the Eagles, the score was in the thirties. 129 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: They lost to the Seahawks at home. They lost UM 130 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: just last week at home to Miami thirty one to 131 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: twenty seven, when they had jumped out to a fourteen 132 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: nothing lead, but their defense fault and through the second 133 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: and third quarters and Miami really got rolling. That defense 134 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: is thirty second last in the league in both yards 135 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: and points allowed. That being said, there one win this 136 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: year was sort of a shootout at home against the 137 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders, a high scoring game that that UM that 138 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: they were able to pull out. So the other response 139 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: I think to see what happens here with regard to 140 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: the Lions is they just uh fired their defensive backs 141 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: coach this week Aubrey pleasant Um Aaron Glenn, the defensive 142 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: coordinator who is a defensive back by trade and made 143 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: his way to the to the coordinator position through the secondary. 144 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: So to speak, just they decided to move on from 145 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: Aubrey Pleasant. So then with all of the problems that 146 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: they've had with their past defense, you know, are they 147 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: are they going to change something? Are they going to 148 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: try something new? I think you know that change at 149 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: defensive backs coach. And also the trade aid for Hackinson 150 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: makes this a challenge this week in some respects for 151 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: the Packers in terms of preparing and studying film because 152 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: you don't know what changes they're going to make based 153 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: on um, based on these moves that just happened within 154 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: the last few days. Well, and how drastic are they 155 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: gonna be? Are they going to really try some different 156 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: type of stuff there? Because you're kind of getting to 157 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: this point where let me just read off some of 158 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: these statistics really quickly. If you don't mind, I know 159 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: you're usually the stat guy. I'm gonna wear that hat 160 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: here for a couple of minutes. Sure, they're giving up 161 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: thirty two point one points per game. As much as 162 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: we put this on Pleasant in the passing game, then 163 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: being against the past this season is actually one of 164 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 1: their better statistics. Right now, they are thirty second and 165 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: totally yards, giving up fourner and twenty one yards per game. 166 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: They are thirty against the run, giving up a hundred 167 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: and fifty four yards per game interceptions, they only have 168 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: to this season third down defense, they are dead last 169 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: in the National Football League fifty point six percent of 170 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: the time not being able to get stopped. So I 171 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: look at this right now from Detroit's perspective, is Okay, 172 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: we have Aidan Hutchinson. He looks like he's going to 173 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: be pretty good four and a half sacks on the season. 174 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: But I don't know what else there is to really 175 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: hang their hat on. Right hutch Hutchinson has the four 176 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: and a half sacks to lead the team. Nobody else 177 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: on the team has more than one and a half. 178 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he he is sort of the crux of 179 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: their defense. What I wonder about in terms of, you know, 180 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: I know it's short notice in terms of making changes 181 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: from a schematic standpoint or whatever you want to call it. 182 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: But at the same time, they're one and six at 183 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: some point at some point here, I mean, we've seen 184 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: we've seen Dan Campbell. He loves to go for it 185 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: on fourth down. He likes to fake punts, he likes 186 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: to onside kick, he he likes to he likes to 187 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: pull out all the stops and so to to a 188 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: certain extent. Now now that they're one and six, nearing 189 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: the midway point of their season, at some point it's 190 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: gonna be like, hey, we got we got nothing to lose. 191 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: Let's just let's let's let's let's try whatever and and 192 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: see if we can beat you know, a struggling Green 193 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: Bay Packers team coming in with a four game los 194 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: and for green Bay, I mean, this is this is 195 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: the perfect elixir. There's a lot of you know, kind 196 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: of some pressure on the Packers here, coming off a 197 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: four game losing streak to still be favored in this game, 198 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: to try to get it up. Twenty five first downs 199 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: a game, right now, that's one and a half more 200 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: than the next team. That's crazy. Six six per quarters, 201 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean six first downs per quarters. So for the Packers, 202 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: a team that offensively has been struggling to find itself 203 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: at times, been trying to find perimeter weapons to step up. 204 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was asked, are you prepared to go to 205 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: a shootout in this one? He's like yeah, he said, 206 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: he said, we better be better, you know, I mean 207 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: that's the way this thing is put together right now. 208 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: For the Packers. So the guys in the locker room 209 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: understand that urgency and one of the points I made 210 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: in our insider inbox column, and it kind of goes 211 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: off dovetailing off. What a lot of the guys said 212 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: in the locker room was, this isn't about getting style points. 213 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: You don't need to, you know, finesse on them. You 214 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: don't need to have a blowout. Packers need to win 215 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: right now, and they need to win before they come 216 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: back home and face a good Dallas team, a very 217 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: dangerous Tennessee Titans team. Yeah, the Packers. The Packers are 218 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: going to come off this game in Detroit and then 219 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: have two home games in a span of five days. 220 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: You get a win, you all of a sudden start, 221 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, maybe to feel a little bit better about yourself, 222 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: generate some kind of momentum to home games in five 223 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: days against at Lambeau, against very very good teams. But 224 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: this is I mean right here, this is it a 225 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: road game at Detroit, a team that's only won one game, 226 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: and then two home games in a span of five days. 227 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: If the Packers are going to turn their season around, 228 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be now. Because if I'm Matt Lafleur in 229 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: that locker room. Obviously, it would never be a speech 230 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: with him because they're not looking to pass the front opponent. 231 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: But fourteen games, fourteen days from now, the Packers could 232 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: be a game above five if you play your cards 233 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: right over these next two weeks. The good thing for 234 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: green Bay coming out of Wednesday we saw Allen Lazard 235 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: returned back to practice. That would be a huge gift 236 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: for them with this offense. You know, Christian Watson, we 237 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: don't know what the prognosis is going to be for him, 238 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: but at the very least, it seems like he's doing okay. 239 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: I think he was out there. You were at practice. Yeah, 240 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: he wasn't stretching, he wasn't going through the drills on 241 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: the field, but he was present at practice. He was 242 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: going through the team stretch at the beginning of practice, 243 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: which is a good sign because some in certain stages 244 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: of the protocol, like you don't even see the player 245 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: down by the field at all. So again, we don't 246 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: know how this is gonna shake out for Watson as 247 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: the rest of the week unfolds, but that was a 248 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: really good sign just to see him with his teammates 249 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, and as Rogers said too, you know, and 250 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: hopefully here in a couple of weeks they can get 251 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: Randall cobback. So the Packers, we saw it happen with 252 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: the trading deadline and when when everybody, and I know 253 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: that's such a big point of contention right now amongst 254 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: fan base, but the reality is, no matter what would 255 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: have happened there, the Packers had to rely on Romeo Dobbs, 256 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: Samory Too re Christian Watson to improve, and they needed 257 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: guys like al Lazar, Randall Cobb and Sammy Watkins to 258 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: lead with this group early on. It's been tough, there's 259 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: no question about it. But I think if you look 260 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,599 Speaker 1: at that game against Buffalo again, a team that was 261 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: that are it is considered a Super Bowl favorite. Packers 262 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: did a lot of positive things in there. Now is 263 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: the time to build on that, learn from your mistakes, 264 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: and go and impose your will against the lines. All right, 265 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: I want us to specifically call our keys to victory 266 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: in a minute here, but first I'll take care of 267 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: some sponsor business. Serious x M NFL Radio delivers hard 268 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL news that 269 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: true football fanatics need. Seven three six and at Cousin Subs, 270 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: we have something for everyone like our Wisconsin cheese curds, 271 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: mac and cheese, golden fries, and creamy shakes, all paired 272 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: with your favorite sub or sub in a bowl. Cousin 273 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: Subs fifty years of better. All right, the keys to 274 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: victory here we will see. Aaron Rodgers sounded uh, sounded positive, 275 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: optimistic about the prospect of David Baktier and Elton Jenkins 276 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: playing side by side on the left side of the 277 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: offensive line this week, even though both of them um 278 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: did not practice on Wednesday. You mentioned the the situation 279 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: going on with the receivers. I think if the Packers 280 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: based on what we saw from this offensive line, certainly 281 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: in the running game with the two plus yards against 282 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills last week, with the changes that have 283 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: been made, yosh Niman's noutright tackle John Runnion has been 284 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: flipped over to right guard. You're trying to get Jenkins 285 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: back in there at left guard, and box are played 286 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: the entire game last week at left tackle. If this 287 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: unit settles in, obviously, Aaron Rodgers is the captain, he's 288 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: the lead, he's the you know, the leader of the 289 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: whole thing. But if if that's your starting five on 290 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: the offensive line, and if that group can settle in 291 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: and start to play every game every week on a 292 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: consistent basis and have some continuity and reliability there, that's 293 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: the unit, in my opinion, that's going to lead this 294 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: Packers offense back to to the productive level that they're 295 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: hoping for and that they're counting on. So um I 296 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: would like to see. I I really would like to 297 00:14:55,480 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: see obviously that that starting five going against the bottom 298 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: rank defense in the entire league, and that starting five 299 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: control this football game. I agree, Mike, because the thing is, 300 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: it's not just about Jenkins and box tr it's the 301 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: fact that you know, you look at yash Nieman being 302 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: able to get three weeks now at right tackle, and 303 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: that's that's your spot. You don't have to worry about 304 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: a rotation, you don't have to worry if something's going 305 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: to happen. You're going to concentrate on this and we'll 306 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: we'll deal with whatever happens on the left side as 307 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: it happens. Being able to develop that comfort last week, 308 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: it was a little bit of a grind early on 309 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: with the pass pro, but they made some adjustments there. 310 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: I thought for the most part, the run blocking was exceptional, uh, 311 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: particularly from the skill the skill positions. Um, Josie Deguara 312 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: made some good blocks, you know, near the line of 313 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: scrimmage outside. You see these guys given second effort there. 314 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: That's the key to break in this thing. Sammy Watkins 315 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: talked about it last week. They know what Aaron Jones 316 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: is capable of. If you get him to the second level, 317 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: it's up to the receivers to kind of give them 318 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: that second block, yeah, to be able to spring him 319 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. That's one thing they've been missing so 320 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: far because he has gotten to the second and third 321 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: level pretty easily this season. But the big thing for 322 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: me really comes back to Aaron Rodgers in this game. 323 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, he he mentioned it to, 324 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: you know, wanting to get the most out of himself, 325 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: rising to the challenge himself. Um. This offense, you know, 326 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: the guys are gonna drop passes, there's going to be 327 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: mistakes made, but so much of this is riding on 328 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback. And I just felt like one positive it 329 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: was very small, and I get that it was in 330 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: a two minute type format, so it's not really within 331 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: the traditional scheme of the offense. But the Packers when 332 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: they had to turn back to the past against Buffalo 333 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: after three quarters of running it, They've made some big plays. 334 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs made some big play, Samari two Ray made 335 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: some big plays. Now you're going up against Detroit Lions 336 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: secondary that I'm going to just say it is not 337 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: overly talented. They aren't that deep. Ye, they haven't gotten 338 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: the job done and they haven't been able to take 339 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: away the football right. The key to victory for me 340 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: and this one Mike, is being able to penetrate that secondary, 341 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: get touchdowns and win the turnover battle. That's kind of 342 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: for me. What it all comes back to. Yeah, on 343 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: the on the defensive side of the ball, and I'm 344 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: gonna be writing about this for for my One Last 345 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: Look column on Saturday, on the defensive side of the 346 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: ball as as much as Aaron Rodgers. He was asked 347 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: the question, Hey, you know, are you guys prepared to 348 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: go win a shootout? And he says, yeah, we better be. 349 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: I think it's it's on the Packers defense to not 350 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: let this game become a shootout. This this is where 351 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: we we've been talking about it week after week, every 352 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: single game, there are stretches where this Packers defense plays 353 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: really well. But what has happened in this four game 354 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: losing streak and when I'm outlining in my up in 355 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: my upcoming column, each of the last four games, there 356 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: has been a stretch of at least three and in 357 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: a couple of cases five possessions where the opponent has 358 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: scored consecutively. You know, five straight possessions against the Giants 359 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: in London, five straight possessions last week against Buffalo. It 360 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 1: was stretches of three consecutive possessions against both the Jets 361 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: and the Commanders. This Packers defense, you're not gonna go 362 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: out there and pitch shutouts. You're not gonna hold everybody 363 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: to ten or twelve points. That's not how it works 364 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: in this league. But what this Packers defense has to 365 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 1: do is when the other team starts to make some plays, 366 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: when they start to get something rolling, they've got to 367 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: find a way to stop the bleeding. They've got to 368 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: find a way to undercut that momentum so that the 369 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: snowball doesn't just get running downhill out of control to 370 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: where suddenly the other team has put seventeen or twenty 371 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: or twenty seven points on the board in the span 372 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: of a quarter and a half or two quarters, and 373 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: then the whole team is reeling. Detroit. As we talked 374 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: about at the top of the show, they have an 375 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: offense that is capable of getting rolling and putting up 376 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: some big points on that fast track at Ford Field. 377 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: This Packers defense, bottom line for me, they cannot let 378 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: this game become a shootout. They have they have to 379 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: do their job and not force the Packers offense. As 380 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: poor as Detroit's defense is, they can't force the Packers 381 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: offense say hey, you gotta go score thirty five and 382 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: win this game. That that's not going to bode well 383 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: in the big picture for trying to turn this thing 384 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: around for Green Bay. I agree, Mike, and and the 385 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: other thing just to tie into that is I think 386 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: that's why they amonras st Brown equation gets gets included 387 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: in this because the one takeaway I had from that 388 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: week a team game, there wasn't a lot to draw 389 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: from it, but it did show you that this kid, 390 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: in terms of a possession receiver, in terms of a 391 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: guy that's gonna be able to move the first down marker, 392 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: this kid's gonna get it done and when you mac 393 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: when you add in a running back, regardless of what 394 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: happens with Swift, but somebody like Jamal Williams that's going 395 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: to run hard for his yards. When Detroit's able to 396 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: get into that rhythm, much like the Packers, much like 397 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: a lot of teams, when you're able to start moving 398 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: those first downs one after another, that's when it does 399 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: get demoralizing for a defense. That's when it hard sometimes 400 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: is hard to get that stop in the midst of 401 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: a run. I'm in Russ st Brown and how the 402 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: Packers choose to defend him is going to be very 403 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: telling because it's not like he's just this typical you know, 404 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: uh Stefon Diggs. You're worried about a seventy yard touchdown 405 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: on any given play, but he can hurt you, and 406 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: he can hurt you in in situations and third and 407 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: favorables that can really make for a long afternoon. Yeah, 408 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: and you look at that week eate team game. I 409 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: know the Packers ended up, you know, resting guys in 410 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: the second half and all that, But going back to 411 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: what we talked about before with Dan Campbell, the Lions 412 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: were pulling trick plays out of I mean, the Packers 413 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: have to have to be ready for absolutely anything that 414 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell might want to try in this game, whether 415 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: whether it's from scrimmage, whether it's on special teams, whatever 416 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: the case might be. UM this, Dan Campbell is going 417 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: to pull out all the stops to beat the green 418 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: Bay Packers and get his team it's it's second win. 419 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: I think green Bay has to be ready for that. 420 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: Elsewhere we can nine in the NFL. Just to touch 421 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: on a couple of games, and one I think that's 422 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: interesting in the a f C, just partly because the 423 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: Packers have already played both of these teams. Is Buffalo 424 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: is at the New York Jets for a big matchup 425 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: in the a f C East. And this one stands 426 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: out to me for the New York Jets because they 427 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: had gotten themselves to five and two and people were saying, oh, 428 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: you know Robert Salo that you know turning around the Jets, 429 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: maybe the Jets are for real. Well then you know 430 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: they kind of they kind of stunk it up against 431 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: the Patriots, a division rival. UM took a loss that 432 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people with everything going on 433 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: with the quarterback situation in New England. People thought, you know, 434 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: the Jets, they should be able to beat their division 435 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: rival here. Now they're hosting the Buffalo Bills, the team 436 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: on top of the division team a lot of people 437 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: pointing to in the a f C, A is a 438 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: super Bowl favorite. This is the chance for the Jets. 439 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: They're either they're either going to make the statement that 440 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: they're in this thing and uh and they're a legitimate 441 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: contender in the a f C. Or they're going to 442 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: be one of those other, you know, teams in the 443 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: mix that's maybe scrambled into, you know, to just squeak 444 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: into the playoffs with the bottom wild card seat. That's 445 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: how I see this game potentially for the Jet could 446 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: go either way. Yeah, well, I mean I think what 447 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: happened is they lost their identity, Breeze Hall got hurt 448 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: and now you know, they traded for James Robinson. Certainly 449 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: Robinson needs some time to pick up the scheme, but 450 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: that offense is a lot different when Michael Carter's back 451 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: there as opposed to Hall. You know, Corey Davis I 452 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: think has had some injuries as well. So uh, you know, 453 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, they believe in him and he's the future 454 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: for them. But I felt like when he's playing at 455 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: his best, it's because he's had a running back to 456 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: kind of play off of and they lost that home 457 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: run threat now with Hall. Yeah, another interesting one in 458 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: the NFC, Rams at Buccaneers and uh, if you had 459 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: told me, if you had told me at the beginning 460 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: of the season, that we'd be sitting here with our 461 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: Thursday Week nine show talking about a matchup in early 462 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: November between the Rams and Buccaneers and both teams would 463 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 1: be below five be wondering what in the world is 464 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: going on? Right? But this is uh, this is the 465 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: type of game that is uh, you know, that's potentially 466 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: a season save or in some respects for one team 467 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: or the other. Here. This is an interesting one in 468 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: the NFC, and the big thing for Todd Bowles he 469 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: needs to remind his team, Yeah, everything's feeling like the 470 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: world's against us, but we're like a game and a 471 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: you know game, half game out from the lead right 472 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: now in their division. Yeah, their division, the leader is 473 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: at four and four. So I mean like, yeah, as 474 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 1: much as this has been difficult, as much as they 475 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: can't run the ball or don't run the ball, um 476 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: that there's still a huge opportunity here. The Rams are 477 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: kind of in an abyss right now, Like I'm sort 478 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: of at a loss for why the Rams have kind 479 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 1: of that this thing's gone as it has. We know 480 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: that they didn't really have much of a run game, 481 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, since the cam Akers injury. We know it's 482 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: been kind of hit or miss at times with this offense. 483 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: But two to be in this type of stretch in 484 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: a division that's as competitive as the West is right now, 485 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: with teams like Seattle coming out of nowhere to be 486 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: right up there, Um, it's a must win game. I 487 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: always said him, like, I never felt like there are 488 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: must win games in November. But the way that these 489 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: this NFC nor in the NFC West have played out 490 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: definitely good games to get what I think is probably 491 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: the game of the week in the NFL. This Philadelphia 492 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: and Houston. Let's get going. No, I don't think so, 493 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: but I'm excited about it because it's on Sunday night football, 494 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: and with the Packers playing at noon, hopefully we can 495 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: get the bulk of our work, if not all of 496 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: our work done um before this game or shortly after 497 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: this game kicks off. And of course I'm talking about 498 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: the Sunday night matchup Tennessee at Kansas City with what 499 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is doing, you know, running the football, pounding 500 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: the ball for Tennessee. A team that, as we talked 501 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: about before, Green Bay is going to see them two 502 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: weeks from tonight, um and then Kansas City playing at 503 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: home Arrowhead under the lights and everything like that. But 504 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: a Chiefs team that you know, maybe hasn't quite found 505 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: itself just yet. And we've seen that before with Kansas 506 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: City where they're not there. You know, Andy, Andy Reid 507 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: has Andy Reid has shown an ability to get that team, 508 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: to really get that team clicking on all cylinders into 509 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: December and January to to make the deep playoff runs 510 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: that they have become accustomed to making. But this is 511 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: an interesting one for early November Tennessee at Kansas City. 512 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: In the a f C. In Tennessee is that they 513 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: are the Minnesota Vikings of the a f C right now. 514 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: I mean, they are winning the games they need to win. 515 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: I have so much respect for Mike Vrabel. That team 516 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: continues to pull out these games one score games. I mean, 517 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: they got the breaks beat off them in week two. Uh, 518 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, by Buffalo, but since then I've really rallied 519 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: it for the Packers sake. If you're Packers fan, I 520 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: think you really do need to pull for Kansas City 521 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: here because after this, Tennessee gets Denver, which has kind 522 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: of gutted their defense a little bit. Now that that 523 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: that could be really tough proposition. If if the Titans 524 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: are really rolling that much heading into lambeau Field in 525 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: two weeks, yeah, absolutely well with that, we will call 526 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: it a wrap on this edition of Packers on Scripted. 527 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 528 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: team and all of our coverage of Sunday's game. Packers 529 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: and Lions in Detroit will have it all for you 530 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: on Packers dot com. For West, I'm Mike. Thank you 531 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: for tuning in everybody. We'll see you next time.