WEBVTT - Should Teachers Be Allowed To Put Their Hands On Kids?

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<v Speaker 1>It's topic time. The phone called eight hundred five eight five,

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<v Speaker 1>Our celebrity guest host Nini is here. Yes, indeed, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you're just joining us, we're talking about the incident

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<v Speaker 1>that happened out in Georgia around your neck in the

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<v Speaker 1>woods where a young lady, a young kid, uh beat

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<v Speaker 1>the breaks off a student, mean, beat the breaks off

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<v Speaker 1>a teacher. Excuse me, a student beat the breaks off

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<v Speaker 1>a teacher. Let's let's hit the audio. Oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, oh my god. So we're asking eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred five five one oh five one. Should teachers be

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to put hands on kids? Don't you needing? Well

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<v Speaker 1>listen now, I'm not for that. But when I was

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<v Speaker 1>in school, we would get, you know, sent to the

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<v Speaker 1>office and get paddles and all of that stuff or

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<v Speaker 1>suspended and everything. And of course I got beatings when

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<v Speaker 1>I was growing us. I would go home and get

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<v Speaker 1>a beating, right, But did you need it? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>need the beating? But they warranted I think so, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so, But I definitely do not believe in

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<v Speaker 1>the teachers putting their hands over even in self defense.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they should be able to put their

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<v Speaker 1>hands on the kids in self defense. Now, growing up

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina White Elementary School, there was just one teaching

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<v Speaker 1>in fourth grade boys. She used to drag us kids

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<v Speaker 1>around that that damn trailer. You know. I have learned

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<v Speaker 1>that there's you know, there's different parenting, and I've learned,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from being a mom, that you can talk

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<v Speaker 1>to some some kids and really get them to do

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you need them to. Oh, I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you, But once they put hands on you, if

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<v Speaker 1>the talk, if the talking don't work, and they put

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<v Speaker 1>hands on you, the teacher should be able to defend it.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd be like, no, no, put your hand down. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>you put your hands now, once you put your hands

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<v Speaker 1>on me when you start, no, no, no. So we've

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<v Speaker 1>already established boundaries. No, no, no, you know you don't

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<v Speaker 1>put your hands over here, you don't come. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna let them get one hit off. No, because they're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna do it, because it mightna be topping them

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<v Speaker 1>like no, no, no, because you're gonna be looking at

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<v Speaker 1>me like I'm gonna beat your ass. No, No, what

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<v Speaker 1>about them tough girls? You were talking about that with

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<v Speaker 1>a box of briefs. Now, yeah, what about that? What

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<v Speaker 1>if point of them put hands on you, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to fight them back. You got to, That's all

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Let me ask your question. Right, So you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the escalating. So there's an incident in your

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<v Speaker 1>class and the students getting wild, you hit the panic

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<v Speaker 1>button or you call security. So now security comes in

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<v Speaker 1>the classroom to help you out Right, the kid doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to leave the classroom right now, Security got to

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<v Speaker 1>remove the kid. And now when security starts to remove

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<v Speaker 1>the kid, the kids fighting security. Now it's an incident

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody's feeling it. And now it goes viral, and

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<v Speaker 1>now what happens from there. I think that you need that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you need security in school the security lose it, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you need security in schools. Then I think

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<v Speaker 1>you need mental health professionals that can help de escalate

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<v Speaker 1>those kinds of situations. Clearly that young lady was having

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<v Speaker 1>some type of manic breakdown. You know what I do

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<v Speaker 1>have it on me as a teacher That's my point.

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<v Speaker 1>And see I blame her household because that little girl

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<v Speaker 1>was fighting the dope before on one problem. Because all

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<v Speaker 1>it takes is one of dope to put hands on

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<v Speaker 1>you go upside of your head and you know not

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<v Speaker 1>to play with somebody grown. Now, let me ask you

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<v Speaker 1>a question. Would you be mad? You're a teacher. You

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<v Speaker 1>do your job every day. The teacher was overweight, right,

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<v Speaker 1>she wasn't fighting back. Right, Let's say you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Sugar might have been low, shut up and

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't feel like fighting in that moment. But I

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<v Speaker 1>want you But that's my point. She had every right

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<v Speaker 1>to defend herself. That teacher needs a metal because she

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<v Speaker 1>showed a lot of rescreen. I'm not a fighter. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't fight. I was about to say that if she can't.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I get a little tasted. Hello, who's this?

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<v Speaker 1>What's upcation? They d what's up? A student attacked you? Bro? Yeah? Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to shout out being in the child's hot

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<v Speaker 1>school in the Bronx, you're not doing enough for the yoself. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>you know when you when you were trying and you

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<v Speaker 1>got some of the kids that want to cut I

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<v Speaker 1>mean for one day. You know, I just got kind

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<v Speaker 1>of you, man. I told the student, there's one particular

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<v Speaker 1>students that you had the dough longy short. He tried

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<v Speaker 1>y know, he tried to hit me up, man, and

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<v Speaker 1>you had every right to defend yourself, and I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you did, especially in the Bronx. Well, no, I did him.

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<v Speaker 1>I really did boot my hands on them because I

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<v Speaker 1>already knew for me, I mean, so I just hit him.

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<v Speaker 1>I grabbed them by the arms and I put something

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<v Speaker 1>theym dog. But of course you know they was recorded that,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was a rap for me right here. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not fair, like like like self defensient apply in a

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<v Speaker 1>school as well, because if that little boy does that

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<v Speaker 1>for you in the street, they're gonna lock that little

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<v Speaker 1>boy up and probably try him as an a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you, if you uh, stay in your ground

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<v Speaker 1>and you self defense against that little boy, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get no trouble in the streets, especially with students

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<v Speaker 1>bringing knives and guys and weapons to school and you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bronx. Yeah, well you know I'm not doing

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<v Speaker 1>hurt anybody here, So that wasn't that wasn't why I

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<v Speaker 1>did what I did. Right. I really to get him

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<v Speaker 1>out of the gym because I knew that swing me up,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up? Hit me up? My job? You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have got a rest, right, That's what it was

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<v Speaker 1>all about. I had to get up my body before you,

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<v Speaker 1>my brother. I respect you for not wanting to hurt

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<v Speaker 1>nobody kids, but what about your own self? What about

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<v Speaker 1>self preservation? What about that kid not hurting you? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't worried about that man, you know, because just

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<v Speaker 1>the kid. I mean story telling you, just the kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't really worried about that part. But I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>had to give him my body because yo, slim and

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<v Speaker 1>you would have twitted me up. It would have been

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<v Speaker 1>a bat. I forgot. He was a game. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see the problem with that. Lose their job, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>lose their jobs, their career, the retirement and all that. Hell,

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<v Speaker 1>he just lost their life because of six years. What

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<v Speaker 1>about to teach you? Right, Penny? Good morning, Good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you guys doing well? What's your thoughts? Penny?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that Docteacher had every right puppy her grown

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<v Speaker 1>ass because she was I feel like she was grown

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<v Speaker 1>so she didn't even her and then when her mamma comes,

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<v Speaker 1>you fight her too. That's right, that's right. Teachers have

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<v Speaker 1>every right to defend themselves. Oh man, Hong Kong. So sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Now let me ask you a question. Right, and that incident,

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<v Speaker 1>the teacher was overweight. We've seen it, so let she

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<v Speaker 1>stop saying that. So why you keep saying that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not relative to the story. I don't know why you

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<v Speaker 1>keep saying that the teacher grab the girl and put

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<v Speaker 1>her weight on the girl. She should have that's what

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<v Speaker 1>she said. I think you should have. But she probably

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know self defense. It sounds like a self defense

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<v Speaker 1>technique and she doesn't know that. I honestly think she

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<v Speaker 1>was just trying to show respraint. When I watched the video,

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<v Speaker 1>I see a woman trying to show restraint. That hesitation

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<v Speaker 1>called her to get hit up and ended up on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. That's that's what happened. She hesitated because she's thinking, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a child, and I don't want to lose

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<v Speaker 1>my job. Man, you got every right to defend yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not fair them. Teacher. You're asking a lot of them,

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<v Speaker 1>teaching them. Man, you're already underpaying them. Now you're telling

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<v Speaker 1>them that they can't protect themselves. Hell, No, eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>five eight five one oh five one. Should teachers be

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<v Speaker 1>able to protect themselves in the classrooms? Should they be

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<v Speaker 1>able to put hands on kids and students? It's the

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<v Speaker 1>Breakfast Club, Go morning, your opinion to the Breakfast Club top.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get five five one five one. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>everybody iss tj Envy Charlemagne the guy. We are the

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<v Speaker 1>Breakfast Club. Our guess hold Steeny Leaks is joining us

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<v Speaker 1>this morning. Yeah, and we're talking about teachers being able

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<v Speaker 1>to defend themselves. Should teachers be able to put their

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<v Speaker 1>hands on students? Now, this comes from like how you

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<v Speaker 1>wording that though, because you're making it seem like we

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<v Speaker 1>just in here advocating for teachers to put hands on kids. No,

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<v Speaker 1>in self defense? Correct, Yes, I believe teachers should be

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<v Speaker 1>able to put their hands on kids. My mom is

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<v Speaker 1>a teacher. My mother older, but she she's a teacher

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<v Speaker 1>and something. You know, she's retired, but sometimes she subs

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<v Speaker 1>every now and then. I would want my mother to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to defend herself with one of them, a

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<v Speaker 1>little badass kids did something to her. And I want

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<v Speaker 1>my brothers to go up to the school and beat

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<v Speaker 1>them little boys. That's the thing too. Like if my

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<v Speaker 1>mother was a teacher, we got enough family members that

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<v Speaker 1>if something has right, they're coming up to that school.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, little brothers, lit sences, they can go handle

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, you know what I mean. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he teachers you able to defend themselves. So let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to the phone lines. Out of people are hello, who's

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<v Speaker 1>this Hey for Angelica? Hey Angelica? And Angelica, you're a teacher?

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I literally just got the word too, talk

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<v Speaker 1>to us, Angelica. Well, I can see the spect them

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<v Speaker 1>from both ends. I'm a teacher and my parents with

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<v Speaker 1>a student who tell us have a lot of aggressive issues,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to tell him every day. These teachers

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<v Speaker 1>do not come to work to have to refee you

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<v Speaker 1>and have to fight off you every day. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Ortunately he's only in fourth grade, but he's a big boy.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I tell him, you don't want nobody putting

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<v Speaker 1>your hands on me, So why would you do it

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<v Speaker 1>to your teachers? That's true? And like and like the

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<v Speaker 1>lads sing in an interview, like we don't get training

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<v Speaker 1>on how to de escalate situations. You know, we try

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<v Speaker 1>not to hurt kids, but on, God, let the kids

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<v Speaker 1>put their hands on me like a big one. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>only five fourth, I'm fighting for my life. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>say on God's right? God, that's right. Let be a

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<v Speaker 1>school shoot. I'm not trying to save all these kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I got my own child and try to get too

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<v Speaker 1>and that even and that's a real situation. Yeah, I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>none of that stuff is in y'all pay grade, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? And imagine having to imagine having

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<v Speaker 1>to train teachers for combat, right, train teachers for self defense,

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<v Speaker 1>trained teachers to uh have to avoid shootings? What is

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<v Speaker 1>this the military? Right? You know what I'm saying that

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<v Speaker 1>he's not in the military from get better benefits. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>for North Carolina, North Carolina. All right, thank you, mama,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Have a great day in class, right, great? Hello? Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>may turn your radio down, mama, Yes I am. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about teachers defending themselves in the classroom. What's

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts, MoMA? All right, I think it's fifty fifty one.

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<v Speaker 1>These kids don't have much discipline walking off Saturday house

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<v Speaker 1>that they think they can talk to any adults how

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<v Speaker 1>they want to two these adults and their selves. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't have limits. Their life is stressful, get it. But

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<v Speaker 1>you have lived, so you should know how to control

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<v Speaker 1>certain situations. If you know that child is reckless, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't approach that child. That's just like approaching a madman

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<v Speaker 1>on the streets. Know when ain't mad? You see them saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been dealing with this child. I went to school

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<v Speaker 1>back in the days. We couldn't talk to the teachers

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<v Speaker 1>like that because, like you said, parents was handling that.

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<v Speaker 1>But the parents is reckless. Now, so who teaching? Who? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you need people in the schools to help

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<v Speaker 1>de escalate situations. You need mental health professionals because, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said earlier, a lot of these kids are dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with like emotional and mental you know, health issues, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And they to me when I look at that video,

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<v Speaker 1>I see a girl having a manic breakdown, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>I see a teacher that's not equiped to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to de escalate that situation. And the turned violent real

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<v Speaker 1>quick because the student turned violent, and now the teachers

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting there stuck, you know, big rolling on the

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<v Speaker 1>floor for no damn reason. Leg broke for real, man, Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>who's this? Good morning? Good morning? Called this Felita calling

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<v Speaker 1>from Chicago. Now, what are you doing in Chicago when

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<v Speaker 1>if these kids act up on you, Mama, Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna beat the brakes out for them. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that a little time that they're gonna hand

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<v Speaker 1>out and yeah, we're not going. You know, I have it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually not a teacher, okay, you know, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Lord knew never to put me in that type of position. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm old school and I refuse to have anybody's child

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<v Speaker 1>put their hands on me. I think in order to

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<v Speaker 1>stop them, because it looks like these parents are not

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<v Speaker 1>doing a good job raising their kids and teaching them

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<v Speaker 1>to respect adults, start finding the parents tents. Okay, child

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<v Speaker 1>for it. They don't play that fine. If they don't

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<v Speaker 1>pay that fine, you know what, suspend their life. It's

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<v Speaker 1>time to make these parents accountable as well, because you

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<v Speaker 1>got some that will go right back home and half fiving.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've actually seen that myself. Wow, they'd be happy

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<v Speaker 1>to one be happy their kid one against an adult exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>that's unacceptable. Let me put them off. Put the parents

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<v Speaker 1>on black. You know, the headlines should say minor at

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<v Speaker 1>John Thompson's pool. That belongs to um Little Mike uh

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<v Speaker 1>Perry Johnson aka Little Mike. And you know whoever put

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<v Speaker 1>that put the parents on blast, put their names out

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<v Speaker 1>there because you know, you know what's so interesting Back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day, You know, we were afraid. At least

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<v Speaker 1>I was afraid. I didn't want to waste my parents money.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to waste their time. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to waste their food, and I didn't want to embarrass them.

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<v Speaker 1>Because all of those things led to me getting my

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<v Speaker 1>ass kicked, especially the time thing my parents had to

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<v Speaker 1>leave work to come get me. Oh, I was in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta leave work to come up here. They calling

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<v Speaker 1>me about you. You know what I'm thinking about now,

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<v Speaker 1>If even if I was sick, I wouldn't let him

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<v Speaker 1>call my parents. Yeah, because you know that they got

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<v Speaker 1>to leave work, right, your parents, I got to leave

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<v Speaker 1>work to come up here because you're acting a gample exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I understanding the nurses's office that whole day, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would not call them. Hell no, but let me let

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<v Speaker 1>me ask you about this. So let's say that student

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<v Speaker 1>there was a problem with the student. Maybe the student

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't read, or maybe the student was having a difficulty

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<v Speaker 1>in math, and then when the teacher went to him

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<v Speaker 1>that it was kind of like her defense mechanism where

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't want to be embarrassed, so it was her

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<v Speaker 1>way of lashing out. Why do you do this? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it has a little way in the jury with these

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<v Speaker 1>hypothetical scenarios, and we don't know nothing. All we saw

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<v Speaker 1>was a little badass girl. But why it has to

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<v Speaker 1>be the reason why she was bad? Maybe not? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's true. I said, she might have been

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do something emotionally into me, and it looked like

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<v Speaker 1>a manic breakdown, you know what I mean. But that

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<v Speaker 1>still don't give her no right to put hands on

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<v Speaker 1>that teacher, And that teacher had every right to defend herself,

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<v Speaker 1>and that teacher should have said, get in my belly.

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<v Speaker 1>She scared the hell out that little girl. That little

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<v Speaker 1>girl would have sat her a little tough ass down,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't this graces? Well, Ny, we got roomors on the

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<v Speaker 1>way where we're talking about coming up, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about that's good meaning you are officially a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the breaking club. You don't be no one

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<v Speaker 1>You'll get in the room's next. Don't move it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Breakfast Club, good boarded,