WEBVTT - "THE WILLIANS PODCAST!" W/ Nikki Glaser and Jerry Trainor 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.920 Welcome to Will You Accept This Rose? A production of 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:09.320 I Heart Radio. Oh my god, we're starting this school 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:13.319 year off. It's such play intrigue. I can't even handle it. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:20.680 You know what, I would be delighted to accept this 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:24.480 rose because I can't even handle what I watch last night. 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:30.920 I feel like ABC gave me a present, and I'm 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:37.280 so angry and and and passionate and heartbroken and riveted. 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:41.040 Welcome to another episode of Will You Accept This Rose? 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:42.800 My name is Arden Marine, coming to you from my 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:47.680 boogie garage in Los Angeles, California. Holy cow, do we 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:51.320 have an episode to break down? Um? I just want 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:55.760 to say that I just got back from Maui last 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.720 night at midnight. I was up till four in the morning. 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:02.080 And my first there, I stayed at the White Lotus 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:07.680 Hotel at the Four Seasons Maui, And the first day 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:12.880 I was there, I saw in the pool Colton Underwood 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.760 with his boyfriend. And I played it wrong because in 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:21.800 my mind I arrived on Thursday, our bachelor historian Lori 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:24.760 had texted me TMZ Alerts that he was going to 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:28.440 be at my hotel there. He was basically greeting me 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.759 upon arrival. He looked great. His boyfriend was a silver Fox. 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.000 I was there for all of it. They were so cute. 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.880 They had like a cabana by the adult pool. They 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:41.880 he was like swimming around having cocktails. My plan was 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:46.720 to wait till Friday, swim over and say, oh, hey, 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:51.240 I'm friends with Wells dot dot. He checked out. He 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:55.040 checked out of the hotel. I will say this, according 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:59.080 to other guests, he was lovely. They asked for photos 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:00.880 with him and they it to them. And there was 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:04.720 another celeb there who will not be named, who would 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.040 not take photos of people. I didn't want to deal 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:13.400 with it anyway. That's my report. It was spectacular. He 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.680 looked great. I was so happy for them, and they 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.040 were like canoodling in a really cute way. I felt 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:21.160 so happy that he could just like be himself. It 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.160 was like like Christmas came early in the form of 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.840 Colton Underwood and his liver Fox. On my first day 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:30.240 on my vacation with me today, I you know, I 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.160 love to put together a cocktail party. You know I 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:37.120 like to pair guests and make friendships. This is one 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.919 that I've been looking forward to for a few weeks. 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:42.400 First up, well, well, let's start with the one who 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:47.000 would not take photos because he just jimed in when 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:48.600 I go to the White Lotus, I don't want to 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.560 deal with the regulars. I don't want to deal with 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:58.120 the normans, ladies and gentlemen. Christian Bail loves Bachelor Paradise. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:03.360 You know, turns up. Christian turns out it doesn't like 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.480 to be distracted by people, but he loves the Bachelor freshies. No, 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.960 you know this gentleman. Look, you know this gentleman from 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:13.160 the first first go round of I Carly. You know 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.160 this gentleman from Drake and Josh, And now you are 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.320 falling back in love with him all over again with 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.200 the reboot of I Carley, which just got picked up 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.639 for a second season. And I feel like he's doing 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.639 some kind of a game show because he's been playing 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.440 hard to get. I don't know what that's about. Most importantly, 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.720 he was our Rookie of the Year twenty twenty during 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.400 the hard year for America, but a great year for 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.400 our podcast because we got to know the sentinel ladies 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:43.120 and gentlemen. Jerry Trainer, thank you very much. That was 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.760 quite the intro. Yes, there's a game show. My voice 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:49.200 is very Raspy the blimp has pulled me back in 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:51.960 and I'm hosting a kid's game show. I don't even 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:53.480 know if I can talk about it or what it's 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.840 I guess it doesn't matter. But I got a lot 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:02.440 of yelling dealing with child contestants. It's come on, come on, Carson, 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:07.480 give me something. It's a lot of yelling. Are you 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.680 like the easter Bunny? When people like can you go 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:15.520 to the grove? Are you just? But yes, it's a thing. Yes, 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:19.440 the kid, The kids love the kids. And I feel like, 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:24.400 and Nikki can probably attest to this that grown ups 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.760 that are fans of other grown ups I think are 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.680 a little bit more respectful for the most part. But 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:36.040 grown ups that are parents of kids that are fans 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.839 of someone, they have no chill. They want to be 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:43.200 cool in their kids eyes, and that is paramount and 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.800 they are. And they'll just run up to me and back. Ah, 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.360 my kid hates me. If I get a picture with you, 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.080 they'll love me again. So let's do that. You're pairing 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:55.440 a lot of divorced dad's hopes and dreams like they're like, 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.200 you remember Monica, she was my secretary. She's going to 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:02.560 come with us to the Cheesecake Factor also with us. Okay, 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:06.920 this is come on, we spent well. First of all, 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:09.839 let's just start. She's like a fucking world famous comedian. 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:11.880 She's a brilliant stand up. She's on tour right now 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:15.799 just killing it. She had and she's had specials galore, 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.080 most recently on Netflix. She had one called Banging That's 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:23.680 fucking hilarious. She has a daily podcast on iHeart Radio 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.440 called the Nicky Glasier Podcast. She's also the host of 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:30.240 the show that we are doing on Patreon right now, 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.960 f Boy Island, and she's killing it. And I love 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.360 watching these guys not on every time she makes a joke, 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.279 which she's so good at and then they're like, whoa, 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.760 that was a joke. Like watching these guys deal with 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:48.400 a funny hot woman is spectacular. And she also got 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.000 to see all when we went to Outside Lands with 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.279 all the dudes there, she was right there with us 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.840 ladies and gentlemen. Nicky Glaiser, Oh guys, thank you so 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:58.520 much for having me back art And that was an 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.839 amazing introduction. Yes, we had so much fun and Outside 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.760 Lands and meeting all so many people I've still kept 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:10.880 in touch with to this day. And yeah, alex at Wells. 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.640 Wells I knew from doing radio in Nashville back when 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:18.120 I was working at Zany's, you know, before he was 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:21.200 on long before he was on the Bachelorette. And I 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:25.760 remember going to a show like the day of usually 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:27.520 do morning radio, but this was like in the afternoon, 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.520 and this kind of like sleepy eyed, like cool guy 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.400 with like a dog like it was just like hey, guys, 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.120 just follow me back here. And I was like, who's 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.680 this guy? Is so hot? There's never hot people in radio. 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:39.880 And I was like, oh my god, is there a vibe? 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.000 And They're like, wasn't And I just I clocked him. 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.880 And then when he showed up again and now, um yeah, 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.200 now he's the fill in for when Lance Bass and 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:51.119 David Spade want to go home. We're flying, They're flying 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.760 runner Less now like yeah, last night there was like, yeah, 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.760 we don't have a host, and it's like a captain 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:59.320 lest ship and they need well, who's doing the voice 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:07.440 over for like tonight it's John. It's little John. No way, 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.800 Oh that makes sense now, Okay, he I got it. 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:12.440 I got it. I can see him with crunk cup 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:14.960 in hand doing those Vidos that is in his closet 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.400 at home. I learned that it is closet at home, 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:20.920 and I asked the same thing. I said, what the 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:24.080 fund is this? And then the first day somebody also 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.480 caught like that. There was no like all the p's 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:29.480 were popping. It was definitely a closet at home. And 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:33.160 it's little John and you know what, I'm here for it. Okay, 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:38.120 here we go overall. Now, Nikki, Jerry, where are you 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.120 at in the franchise? So, Jerry, this is your first 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.440 time during Paradise? Correct are you? Is it everything that 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:48.840 I promised? Yeah, it's crazy. There's been a I didn't 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:50.600 know what I was watching at first. I was like, so, 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.800 I don't understand how anybody wins. People just keep showing up. 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.440 I don't get it. I need a refresher on this show. 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:58.960 By the way, what is what is the goal here? 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:03.400 And how does it right? I've watched many seasons and 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.600 I can't remember what we're all trying to do here. 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.679 So basically, here's the rules of the game. It's horny 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.320 musical chairs. Okay, so it's just think I think it's like, 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.680 it's horny musical chairs. And as we saw last night, 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.960 which we'll get to because I have never screamed at 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:24.400 my television more. I mean we this, that's a whole 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.800 next level, which is gonna get his whole segment. I've 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:30.679 we've never seen a villain, a nice guy turned into 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:35.040 such a marvel villain, like it was the origin story 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.880 of this but this sweet we've never usually you can 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:41.240 smell a villain coming. And like we had some wind 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.240 trade winds blowing early on about we heard about Piper, 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.199 but there was no inkling of the piece of ship 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:51.080 that he would become when he was on tatious season now, 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:55.200 So basically I felt it those wins I need to 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.360 texted about the winds we did earlier we did did 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.880 were like I was like, your Bara, that are working. 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:02.840 Mine was broken that day because I was like, no, no, 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.400 he's sweet, he's shy, he's got a Massachusett's accent, he's 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:09.880 a were startling. Here's the deal. It's horny musical chairs. 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:13.360 So let's say, Jerry, you were you and Nick you 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:16.040 really like Nikki and like you know that, but like 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.240 you don't know what we You and I are there 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.400 first and like is Nikki coming? What week? Is Nikki coming? 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:25.640 You basically have to like strike up. The whole goal 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.880 is to be sort of a last couple standing and 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:33.000 to get engaged to think this is okay, Okay, no, 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.320 that's the thing. The thing the game ufication part of 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.520 it that I keyed in on is like it's like 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.920 a power dynamic. It's like you want to be with 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.720 someone that's more into you than you are to them 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.200 so that you can give them your rose and you 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.960 know they'll give you their rows. And then if the 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.280 person you really like shows up, then you'd be like, oh, 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:57.000 I didn't know and I the spark I feel over 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.600 here is I don't feel it here? And then you 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.199 then you end up. But if Brendan and Piper are 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.160 now let's say solid, why aren't they gonna win? If 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.120 they're already a couple, why don't we just go okay, 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:09.720 well they're going to be the last couple standing because 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:16.160 nothing's going to break them apart. Okay, okay, So there's that. Yes, okay, 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.600 this situation, yes, no, I agree with you. This has 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:25.680 never happened before before. Okay, Okay, here we go. No, 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.120 not like this. Before we get going, we need to 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:33.199 bring in are very important. Without these two this production crew. 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:35.880 I do not know where. Then Anna looks like she's 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:39.240 in the ruins of where. What are you doing? What 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.400 is happening? Dr Banana? Are you okay blank? If you've 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:47.520 been kidnapped? What is happening? Yes, photos act took. It's 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.000 like a little like side hub in a beach and 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.040 Laguna beach. I don't know. It looks like things have 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:56.480 gone awry. Katie living to use green screens, Katie, Now 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.320 you're you're nodding your head. Has this happened before? Yes, 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.680 this happened in season too, but it was not this bad, 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.160 and it was they tried to cover it up. It 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.640 was Joe, who was a Southern guy, like a strong 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:10.320 Southern accident and Samantha and his licking his lips, and 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.520 Joe came in and started dating this single mom named Julia, 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:15.800 and then as soon as Samantha came in, he was 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:18.120 just like, who was Julia? I've never met her before? 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.240 And then he and Samantha started like, you know, hanging out, 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.280 and then it came out. Then they started fighting. Then 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.320 it came out that there was like literally hundreds of 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.600 texts like he sent these to Chris Harrison, hundreds of 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.520 texts between the two of them of Samantha doing like saying, 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.760 do whatever you need to do to stay wait for 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.439 me there and they but like on the show, they 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.040 tried to cover it up until like they started fighting 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:40.640 and then he just threw under the bus. But it 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:44.560 wasn't this bad. I've never seen and and so we're 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:46.320 gonna get to it, just no, just know we're going 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:48.400 to get there because because we have to get through 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.959 some other stuff first. But I do want to also 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:54.640 say there's never been such an obvious I'm gonna say 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:58.280 that the dragon has eaten its own tail, and that 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:04.440 we've never had Instagram as a character so officially, like 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:08.320 hosting Fboy Island, like being inside the machine of something 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.360 like this, Yes, talk to us about your feelings, like 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.760 having been in the belly of one of these bees. Um, 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:22.680 I just see how um these things like, I know 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:27.280 that people knew what was coming. I don't believe for 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.520 a second that anyone who's putting the show together didn't 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.240 arrange it for it to be exactly the way it is. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:38.240 And that's not to say lied or you know, made 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.640 these people, told these people to say certain things. The 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.480 behavior that these people have on these shows is their 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:47.840 own and happens from the environment that producers create. So 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:53.200 this is this is um and there's a lot of 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:54.720 things that happened on reality shows. I do want to 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.240 say that I I that can't be planned and can't 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.800 be like foreseen a lot on f L. And when 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.560 we were starting, I was so worried that what if 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:05.760 these girls don't like any of these guys, Like what 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.760 is going to happen if like they just don't have 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:11.360 anything with anyone. And people that were producers on the 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:16.439 show assuaged my fears and go, oh, sweet girl, it's 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.560 it's it's a reality show. There's a bunch of guys 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:21.640 and they're in a bubble and they don't have phones 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:25.120 or anyone. They're gonna like someone. I go, but I've 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.360 I could pick random twenty four guys and not like 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.560 any of them. And they're like, no, you what you would? 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:33.640 You would like one of them? You find away. It 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.160 was just like there was no worry. I go, well, 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:37.679 what if they like them and there's no drama and 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:43.280 they go, oh, it's okay. There's always going to be 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.199 something that we can do or someone we can bring in, 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.760 someone we can take away, something will happen where it 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.000 will lead to drama, and that didn't ruin it for 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.080 me as a you er being like, oh my gosh, 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.800 it's all manipulated. It's all fake. It's not fake. The 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:01.559 emotions in the behaviors that you see people exhibit are real. 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:05.320 But there's a mean geppetto don't ever worry about a 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.960 season not being the most dramatic season of Bachelorette ever, 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:11.480 and they always you'll always be taken care of. Okay, 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:13.199 So we're gonna dive in because we've got a lot 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.439 to get through. So we have Kendall arriving. Joe is 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.000 with Serena on the day bed. She walks up and 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:23.960 she goes, hey, butt head. Joe had a huge smile. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.480 He says, want to go talk. She goes. She goes 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:31.920 by the way. We were trying to figure out if 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.280 they were caps, and we had somebody email us that 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.880 that was a dentist and she thinks that they're his 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.680 natural teeth that have been bleached, that have been overly bleached. 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.280 That is from um, that's that's from there. You go. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.600 So then so then they go good to so then 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:50.000 so then all of us go through a little bit 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.240 of what happened. They go, good to see you, you too, 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:55.240 You look good? Yeah, you look good. Um, so they 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.680 do a big hug. So then he asked her, are 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.280 you okay. She's like, I'm okay. I'm not gre I'm 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.320 not awful because I feel like you're okay. I'm surprised 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.720 you're this okay. And he's like, look when I got here, 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:07.800 I was ready to leave. I forgot this is the 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:11.200 place that Kendall and I fall in love. Um. But um, 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.120 she's and she's like, look the conversations I want to 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:18.080 have with you or the conversations I've been avoiding, and um, 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:21.200 people are asking Meanwhile, Serena if she's okay, She's like, 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.680 everyone has exes, but it's a lot. So then Joe 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:27.160 says to Kendall like, look, we were really in love, 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.800 but it hadn't been easy. Um. She's like, look, it's 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.920 been really difficult for me not to have you part 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.200 of my life. And then it basically it turns out 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:38.200 it's like we broke up because of logistics and uh. 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.960 And she was like I was terrified. Why has it 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.600 been so hard to ignore me? And he's like wow, wow, wow, 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.160 wow wow lady, this is not what happened. You would 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.040 not come to Chicago. It's like I didn't want to 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:49.680 live it too. He's like, okay, so what are we 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.880 doing here? She gets hard for me. So so it 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.000 turns out all that. Now I'm gonna start with Nikki 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:58.840 because you know, Joe, I saw your heart. Your heart 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.440 really hurt when I brought this stop talked. I know 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.920 Kendall and Joe. I originally met Kendall. She was my 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.840 art director for not Safe, my Comedy Central show. She 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.760 was she would buy the dildo, she would design the 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:13.000 sets that we would um, you know, shoot on. She 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:17.080 was she was just this really hot, cute, quiet, sweet 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:21.040 girl that worked on my show. And then she Everyone's 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:22.960 in love with her. By the way, on on my show, 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.560 everyone was just like obsessed with her and she's so 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:27.920 even me. I was just like, she's a doll. Then 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.480 she gets on the show. You know, they end up together. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.320 I do Dancing with the Stars Grocery Shore. Joe is 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.840 on my season of Dancing with the Stars with me. Um. 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.000 He lasts way longer than I give voted off first. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.920 He continues going on even though he's a worst dancer 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.800 than I was by far, but you know he's at ABC. Darling. 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.200 ABC decided, you know, we don't really like this girl 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.120 that kicked me off UM, that that show is less 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.440 about dancing and more about ABC developing talent, and like saying, 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.600 who would we like to see more of our on 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.840 our network and they say not not I And so 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.920 they kept around Joe. He's so sweet, He's just and 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.440 I think that I am all team Joe ever since 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.199 the first episode when he was like really struggling with 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.000 the Kendall stuff and they I was watching the captions 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.199 and I remember one point he's just like and I said, like, 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.840 blows raspberry and he's just like and it was just quiet, 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.159 and I was like, oh my god, and he was 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.520 just he was so vulnerable. I just felt like, this 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.040 is a guy that's like, this is why I want 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.560 to watch a Bachelor with people in their thirties, because 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.240 these people are just older and not not as full 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.440 of shit and not and and really actually wants something. 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:34.960 He wants step kids, he wants to have a family. 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.480 So anyway, by the time it gets to Kendall coming back, 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.520 I just or coming in today on this episode that 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:44.680 I just watched, Um, I was just so scared because 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.160 I know he's so into Serena, and I just know men, 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.520 and I know that the new thing is always going 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.400 to be more exciting, even if you still have loved 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:56.040 for the old old relationship. And Kendall is still in 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.080 love with him clearly, and then he has that sound 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.240 bite of I don't know if I'm still in love. Third, 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:03.280 I just don't know, and it's not gonna be good. 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:08.600 He's definitely Serena. I want him with Serena. I don't 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.200 want him to go back with Kendall. No, like they 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:16.119 broke up. I love Serena. I love that Canadian. Jerry, 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:18.400 who are you rooting for? How did you feel? Who 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.119 are you rooting for? Well? That was a lot to 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:23.960 unpack everything that Nicky said because she's friends with him 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:32.159 now and now I feel like I can't go hard. Yeah. No, 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:37.760 I I half agree with things Nikki said and I 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:42.760 half hard disagree. His attitude at the beginning when he 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:47.000 was moping around really put me off. I was like, 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:51.560 and there's a thing about him that I feel like 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:57.720 led to him in Kendall's demise as a relationship, he 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.960 strikes me as the guy he wanted to move to Chicago, 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.120 So if you work backwards from there, it's like, I'm 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:07.679 the guy that didn't like it or couldn't hack it 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:09.439 in l A. And I want to go back to 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.640 the place where I was the big dog and everybody 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:16.159 loves my ship and she didn't want to go, and 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.600 so he's like, well, I can't deal with this place, 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.359 so I'm gonna go, is what it seems like. And 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:23.800 it felt like that in the first step in that 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.880 in those first moments where he was moping around, it's like, oh, 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:30.240 I'm the thirty five year old and that's considered old, 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:33.960 which just blows my mind. But then all these young, hot, 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.040 ripped up dudes and girls are there and he feels 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:40.160 like and he's using the this is where I fell 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:43.080 in love with Kendall excuse, but really it's like, mmmm, 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:46.200 I think this is just another like insecurity thing where 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:48.920 you're not the hottest guy on the beach right now, 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:52.960 and so you're uncomfortable with this and you don't know. 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:58.600 If I see Katie Levin shaking her head, Kati, I'm 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:01.200 going to the production team, Katie tanned to you, guys, 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:05.280 I I agree. I I mean, I kind of Yeah, 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:12.399 I agree with Nikki. I disagree with Damn it a 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.680 tough time. It's he just seems like the type of guy. 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.320 He was like, very Chicago, very family oriented. He's like, 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:19.880 I want to be by my family. I don't think 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:21.720 it was like an ego thing. I think maybe he 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:25.000 just wanted to be by his family, not ego insecurity. 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:27.760 I mean maybe a little bit, but I mean, you know, 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.080 sometimes people, I don't think he ever wanted to be famous. Yeah, 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.240 it's just he's thirty five, dude, he's like, you know, 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.719 a little older. He's like because his producers can talk 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:38.399 you into anything. Reality show producers can get anyone to 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:40.520 do anything. So they wanted him on the show. They 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:42.359 called him, they were like, it's gonna be great. And 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:45.440 he got there and was like, oh, not like being 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:48.399 around him. And I don't know final answer, but he doesn't. 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:49.639 When he was on an Answering to the Stars, he 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:51.680 wasn't trying to get camera time. He's not a guy 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.040 that wants to be famous. I don't think he's kind 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:57.520 of like always begrudgingly in the spotlight. He's my assessment, 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:01.359 but maybe you know, it's it's okay. Dr Banana I 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:02.879 saw her hand. I was just gonna say I I 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.600 agree with Nikki, Like it feels like he at first 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:08.480 it was exciting because you're like this new world. You're thrilled, 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.240 and then next thing you know, he's like, oh ship, 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:14.160 Like now I'm here, and I actually like people want 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:15.720 something for me, and I'm the cameras are on me 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:17.440 and I have to like be a person that's on 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.560 the camera. And now like I'm back at Paradise and 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:22.960 I feel like it was fun at first and then 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:25.119 it all hit him and now he's just like, I 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:27.840 gotta go back to Chicago. I'm gonna have a little 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:30.440 bit of my sentinels back here. I have to have 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:33.040 I gotta be a little team sentinel in the man box. 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:35.879 I feel like he there was a part of me 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:37.960