1 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites the podcast presented by BET three 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Action Network. I 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: am Chadmilman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. Today 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: is our week seventeen, Thursday and fl episode. This is 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: the episode where we get feedback from the wise guys 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: who listen to the show. We make our moneyline Underdog 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Round Robin, We give out our Fox Little Bet, our 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: Big Balls bet of the week, and we narrow down 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: our picks for the free to play Favorites Podcast one 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars Pro Football Pick Them contest because, as 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: our old pal Colin Coward likes to say, there's a 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: sea of money out there. Because there's a sea of 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: money out there, you want to follow along with our 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: official bets. You can check them out on the contest 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: website Favorites dot Actionnetwork dot com when we lock them 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: in before kickoff on Sunday, and if you prefer using 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: the award winning Action app, you can also track all 18 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: the bets. Simon and I lock in following two accounts, 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: the Phase five and The Favorites Podcast. Now let's bring 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: in my co host, my companion, my compatre, my BFF, 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: professional better, Simon Hunter, Hello. 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: Solomon, how you doing, brother? 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: I'm good. Listen, Simon. As you know, I've been away 24 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: with my family for a few days and where we 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: are there happens to be a casino. So last night 26 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: I had my first casino experience with both of my children, 27 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: blackjack poker. The younger son, sitting at the blackjack table, 28 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: was feeling it, figuring it out. We had practiced before 29 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: we went away. We were practicing poker, playing blackjack at home, 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, decker cars, whatever, and he was getting it. 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: And then at one point he had nineteen he started 32 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: to tap his fingers on the table like he was 33 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: going to hit. And you've never seen a group of 34 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: adult men and the dealer come to the aid of 35 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: a teenage boy quicker. It was just proved to me 36 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: that it takes a village to raise children these days, 37 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: because everyone started screaming no, no, no. Even the dealer 38 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 1: was like, no, no, I will not let you do that. 39 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: Even though the eye in the sky saw that he 40 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: had already done it, he would not do it. Meanwhile, 41 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: my older son playing poker, loves poker. He's a total 42 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: game guy. At one point, I'm sitting at the blackjack 43 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: table for a while and he comes up to me 44 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: and he goes, Dad, I'm going to finish this run. 45 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: I just need a couple more bucks, So of course 46 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: I give it to him. And when it's all over, 47 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: my wife says to my son, so did you win 48 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: or lose? He goes, I lost about ten bucks, and 49 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: she looks at him. She goes, well, I know I 50 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: gave you fifty. I know Dad gave you fifty. He goes, oh, no, no, 51 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: I just meant I lost ten bucks of my own money, 52 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: raising him right. 53 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing like that first real experience of galin where 54 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: even if you win, you're gonna give back right, no 55 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: matter what that first time, no one knows when to 56 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: walk away, especially your first time. 57 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: Right now, And it was thrilling and exhilarating. 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Gambling problem called one 75 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: eight hundred gambler or one eight hundred bets off terms. 76 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: Conditioned restrictions apply. All right, simon, We're getting to it 77 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: week seventeen. We got two more weeks left in the 78 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: regular season. Opportunities all over the board. It's time four 79 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: sharp calls. 80 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: Hello, who's there? I'm talking Rain. 81 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: Rain telephone range. 82 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: Somebody said, maybe want. 83 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 4: To do man. 84 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: We'll start off with what Chad wants to hear, which 85 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 3: is all the pros they love, the Saints who Chad 86 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: loves and I don't know. 87 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: I think I'm dugged in. 88 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 3: I'll let you pick it to do whatever you want 89 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: with it this week, Chad, but I'm gonna stand by. 90 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: I think the public is right here, the Bucks of 91 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: the right side. 92 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 3: The Saints are frauds and this is just not a 93 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 3: game I would trust them with. If this was three 94 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 3: and a half four, I could come around the Saints. 95 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: But at three two and a half, I just think 96 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: I just think it's the Bucks. But yeah, a lot 97 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: of a lot of pushback on that one, Like an 98 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 3: absurd amount of people called me and said, I'm making 99 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: a mistake. 100 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: But so listen, listen, we're going to get into all 101 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: these games, including that one. I will tell you when 102 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: I listed the five that I thought we'd end up 103 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: with that were sort of trending to my favorite, the 104 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: Saints were on the outside looking. 105 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: At That's good. That makes you feel good because. 106 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: I still like them, but they didn't make me. 107 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: I might be wrong, but I just I just have 108 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: zero faith in Derek Carr and you know, the whole team, 109 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: just everything about it. It's the first outdoor game and like, 110 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: I dig it three months, all of it. But yeah, 111 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: we'll talk about it. You know again, we talked about 112 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: we liked. I can't believe the number moves so much. 113 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: We both like the Dolphins. It's gone from four to three, 114 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: and a lot of books brutal, Like was hoping that 115 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: I was going to keep climbing. They smashed that one. 116 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: A game I am worried about, which I did love 117 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: was the Giants. And you know, I do have some 118 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: smart groups on my side, but there's also some smart 119 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: groups on the other side that like the Rams, and 120 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: I think it's all of us fighting over at the six. 121 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 3: So I know some guys who love the Giants at 122 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: six and a half. Six, and you know, this number 123 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: got to four, four and a half. And I know 124 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: another group that came in really heavy on the Rams. 125 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 3: And now I'm seeing it back some books this morning, 126 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: five and a half at some off shore books at six. 127 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 2: So that's definitely interesting. 128 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: One where everyone I talked to you for the most 129 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: part like the Giants, and I talked to maybe two 130 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: guys who really liked that Rams spot, especially under six. 131 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 3: It would just be crazy if this did land six. 132 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: The books would get absolutely crushed. If this does some 133 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 3: land on six. But that's another one we were gonna 134 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: talk about, because even under six I'm still not too weird. 135 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: I feel like five and a half is still a. 136 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: Pretty good number for that Giants game. Another game we 137 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: didn't talk a crazy amount about, but you know, made 138 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: sense to me when I talked to people that they 139 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 3: were on the same side as us. I think we 140 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 3: did talk about that. We like the Colts, talked to 141 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 3: plenty of pros. I liked the Colts. It's it wasn't 142 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: as much I thought I was gonna be. I thought 143 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: this was gonna be a huge smash spot, and it 144 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: kind of seems like teams are a little weird. I mean, 145 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: guys are a little weary of fading this Raiders team, 146 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: this defense. But I just think the Colts are coaching 147 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: all of it offensively. They're just they just put Minshew 148 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: and their players in the right spot. So that's another game. 149 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: I'm excited for us to break down again. We talked 150 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: a little bit about, but again we missed the number Houston, 151 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: like we were probably gonna put that in our contest. 152 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,119 Speaker 2: It was three, three and a half. Now I'm seeing 153 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: five and a half. 154 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: You know, not that this was so much a sharp call, 155 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: but it was, like, you know, talk to a couple 156 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: of people it's like you grabbing Houston right just in 157 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: case CJ comes back, and you know whatever. 158 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: We did that Tuesday. So that was what eight am, 159 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: nine am. 160 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: I think by one o'clock here in Hawaii, the CJ 161 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: kind of news already leaked that he was on me 162 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: back practicing. 163 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: It kind of got in zero expectations we were going 164 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: to have that, Like that number just wasn't going to 165 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: work for us. I knew we were never going to 166 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: get it. 167 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: Really, I was hoping if it was still three and 168 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: a half, that had been great, like that had have 169 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 3: been a nice spot at the back Houston. 170 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: That was a nice number to back them. 171 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: But yeah, the biggest, the biggest two games that I 172 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: had disagreement with were the Lions. I know a bunch 173 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: of pros. I love the Lions. I like the Cowboys. 174 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: And I know a bunch of pros I like the Saints. 175 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: I like the Bucks. So yeah, an interesting week of 176 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: you know, some split split people. But I can tell 177 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: you from most guys I talked to most guys like 178 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: Chalk this week, Like, I know a bunch of people 179 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: are I know a bunch of really smart groups betting 180 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: the Browns. I know a bunch of really smart groups 181 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: who do like the Raves. I know a bunch of 182 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: really smart groups that do really like the Seattle Seahawks. 183 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: So it's it's a interesting week of Usually guys I 184 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 3: talked to like the dogs or they stay away, and 185 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: some guys are biting on these favorites because they think 186 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 3: a lot of these dogs are overvalued. 187 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm. 188 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: Excited to dive into this one. But I'm also like, 189 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: I got three or four in my mind for us. 190 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: I don't have a fifth yet for our five, So 191 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 3: interesting to see your picks are. 192 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited to see if they match. Because there's 193 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: a couple couple of favorites in here on my list 194 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: and including one I added and we talked a little 195 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: bit about the other day that I think is going 196 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: to make for a good conversation. As a reminder, catch 197 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: every episode of The Favorites live on YouTube. For those 198 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: enjoying on YouTube right now, don't forget to give us 199 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: a like and subscribe to the Action Network you tube page. 200 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: We will give you a foxhole of big balls bet 201 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: of the week. Also a reminder, another live show, folks, 202 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: we're running it back The Favorites Podcast and favorites. Watch 203 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: Party Sunday, January fourteenth, wild Card Weekend, Me Simon, free entry, 204 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: free drinks, free sweat, and the bets for the entire 205 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: weekend with me and Simon during the games and then 206 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,599 Speaker 1: we go live at seven point thirty Shepherd and the 207 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: Knucklehead Hoboken, New Jersey RSVP in the description for YouTube 208 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: and the podcast. Also the day before Wildcard watch Party 209 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: with Raybound was Stocking Sean Kern or Me, Simon, the 210 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: whole Gang four pm. Shepherd and the Knucklehead January thirteenth, 211 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: RSVP for that as well. We want to see everybody there. 212 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: We had so much fun at the last event. We 213 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: loved hanging with everybody. It's going to be great. 214 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: If you want to guarantee, though that I'll be there, 215 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 3: make sure you go to the Sunday show. It's guarantee 216 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: I'll be in Sunday. It's a little up in the 217 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 3: airp I'll be there on Saturday, but guaranteed you have 218 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: my word, people, I will be there Sunday. 219 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: It's really honestly a good time all. 220 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: Right, Detroit at Dallas. This game's moved five and a half. 221 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: You pegged it on Tuesday I kind of love it. 222 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a great spot for the Cowboys and 223 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: like there has to be some kind of hang over 224 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: for the Lions right now. And then I was reminded 225 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: of a stat from Evan Abrams Dak against the spread 226 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 1: as a fave six or more so now it's down 227 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: to five and a half, but there was at six 228 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: right before the show. Yeah, twelve and one seventy percent 229 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: against the spread. They just need this game. They need 230 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: this game more. And the only thing that worries me 231 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: is Toron Smith still being questionable, did not practice on Wednesday. 232 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: I think he's the reason they lost that game against Miami, 233 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: just too many bad sacks and the exact time when 234 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: they couldn't afford a bad sack. But I also think 235 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy might be coaching for his job. 236 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: Interesting. 237 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was honestly interesting that I talked 238 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: to pros who liked the Lions. I just I thought 239 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: everyone would be on Dallas or you just stay away, 240 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: and like, you know, the number made sense to me. 241 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: It should be six, six and a half. 242 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 3: That made sense to me, and apparently people smarter than 243 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 3: me disagreed, and they came in pretty heavy on this 244 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 3: line's team, and they've moved this number, and the public 245 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: is well, I said they would be right. They're pissed 246 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: off at Dallas. They're not sold on Dallas at all. 247 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: You know, this is a team that two huge. You 248 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: know everyone's watching kind of games. They've laid eggs, right, 249 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 3: They've just laid eggs against good teams. So I'm not 250 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: shocked to see the public split on this one. I 251 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: am shocked to see the professionals. So I'm with Chad 252 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: all hold my ground. I like Dallas, And you know, 253 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: this year has been really hard with this contest where 254 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: we've liked these games, like these Saturday games, Like we 255 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 3: both loved the Chargers last week, we couldn't play it. 256 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: That's tough. Like a normal contest, we're able to play 257 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: those ones. So this year, yeah, it's been it's been 258 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 3: really tough where you're losing a couple of games, and 259 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: like this one, I would probably get in a five 260 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 3: and a half, right, Like, it feels like we'd probably 261 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 3: force this one in. This is kind of a nice number, 262 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, we won't have this in the contest. 263 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: But I like this game. I think Chad licks as well, 264 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: So don't share it off by the line movement. 265 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: I know it couldn't be one of our final five, 266 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: but I want to make sure we talked about it 267 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: because it is such a marquee game and was getting 268 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: so much attention. Another marquee game, as you mentioned, Miami 269 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: at Baltimore. And this is a bummer, right because this 270 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: number has bounced around. We saw it when we talked 271 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: about it on Tuesday at four, it got down to 272 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: three and a half, It got down to three. 273 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: Should have made it. Simon says, I was going through 274 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: but I didn't. 275 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: I know, I know Jaln Waddle likely not playing. I 276 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: think it really is about the number here, Like when 277 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: it's a three, Lamar is a favorite of three or 278 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: less or an underdog twenty one and six against the spread. 279 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: Harbaugh as a favorite of three or less or an 280 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: underdog eighty three, sixty and seven against the spread. That's 281 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: seventy eight percent and fifty eight percent, respectively. As favorites 282 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: of three or more. Lamar forty three and a half 283 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: percent against the spread, Harbaugh forty seven point six percent 284 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: against the spread. So like, if this gets back to 285 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: three and a half, you take the Dolphins at three, 286 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: maybe you take the Ravens or you pass. 287 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just saying, if it's two and a 288 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 3: half in our contest, like I honestly would be tempted 289 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: to take the Ravens at that. 290 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't think. I don't think that's going to be. 291 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: The option we'll see, but I would hate it just 292 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: because I'm heavily invested at this point in Miami at 293 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 3: four three and a half. It's just it felt like 294 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 3: the right spot to take them. But like Chad's saying 295 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: right now, it's like it's all about the number. Like 296 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: this feels like a games can come down to a 297 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: field goal. One team's kicker is terrible and not trustworthy, 298 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: the other one is maybe the greatest kicker in NFL 299 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: history and Tucker. So yeah, it's just when you when 300 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: you get lower than a three, my value. 301 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: Is going to definitely shift to the Ravens. 302 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's such a letdown spot for this 303 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: Ravens team, even though I know everything that's on, I'm like, 304 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: did they win this? They pretty much guaranteed the one seed, right, 305 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: I think I saw something like that Lamar not the. 306 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: I guaranteed he's gonna get MVP. 307 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: I still think Josh Allen is an outside shot, but 308 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: it's like it's hard not to give it to Lamar 309 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 3: what he's done this season. 310 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: You know, off season, this all factor is in. 311 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: This guy had a really tumultuous offseason dealing with the contract. 312 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: Then he came in, had to learn a new offense. Right, 313 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: this is a totally different new scheme and it doesn't 314 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: seemed that different because they're running the ball so much, 315 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: but it is different. Yeah, my guy, evn't The Ravens 316 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: clinched the Nirmer one seed and they get the first 317 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: round by if they win this, So it's like, doesn't 318 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: get I mean, this is what the biggest game of 319 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: Lamar's career, so that that's gotta that's gotta be a 320 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: real pressure on him. He's not not human, right, Like 321 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 3: we've seen Lamar struggle with pressure before. 322 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: This is as high as it gets. Miami. 323 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: On the flip side, I don't know if you've watched 324 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: any of this hard Knocks Chad, but like, I mean, 325 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: Mike McDaniels might be the most likable dude, and I 326 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: already loved him, but it's like he is just so 327 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: good at breaking the tension, Like the everything so serious 328 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: in life when it really shouldn't be. Like everything we 329 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: do is ninety nine percent of all we do is 330 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: just made up bullshit. 331 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: And I love that by Mking. 332 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 3: Mike Daalelds resees through that like that whole I don't 333 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 3: know if you saw the clip of who is a 334 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: Dan Marino is getting like love before the game and 335 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: he's like talking shit to him. He's getting this word 336 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: like we're gonna, we're gonna come in for your records. 337 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: We're gonna break all your records. Dan, like just talking 338 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: shit to him, but like in a lovey joky way 339 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: the two in Tyreek, where like they're all standing there together. 340 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: It's just like I love that so much. So with Miami, 341 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: they're just this team and a spot of I like 342 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: them to be able to be to the back door 343 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: this whole game, right. They have the offensive weapons. I 344 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: know historically they struggled in this position against Winny teams 345 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 3: on the road, but we talked about it. I mean, 346 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: I've been told us like in his career, he's two 347 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: and zero against the Ravens. I know they're a little 348 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: bit of fluky games, but he's played well against them 349 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: and he hasn't been even on the road. He played 350 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: in Baltimore. He was able to play well in that stadium. 351 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a big deal. He's been there, done that, 352 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: so I know it's a long way wondered way of 353 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: saying you can still get three and a half. 354 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: We like it. 355 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 3: Just don't be really pissed at me and Chad Sunday morning. 356 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 3: If there's a minus two and a half on the Ravens, 357 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: it's just we're playing the value the number. We think 358 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 3: it should be three. It's sitting on three now, So 359 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 3: no play for me if it's three. But if it's 360 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: three and a half Miami, if it's two and a 361 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: half Ravens. 362 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: It was Dolphin super fan producer Tito who reminded us 363 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: that two was two and zero against Lamar. I think 364 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: the only thing Tito knows is South Florida sports number one, 365 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: number two. Ninety nine percent of what we talk about 366 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: being bullshit, I think is a low estimate on the 367 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: amount of stuff that we talk about. Bet is bullshit. 368 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: We talk about sports betting on our internet machines. That's 369 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: what we do, Simon. That is all bullshit. 370 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: Brother, important work, important work work. 371 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: We touch people every day, their lives a little bit better. 372 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: Speaking of Josh Allen, we touched on this game a 373 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: little bit. A lot of touch talk, yeah, a lot 374 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: of touchdown New England at Buffalo Buffalo minus thirteen. I 375 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: just feel like Buffalo is going to destroy. I know 376 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: it in my bones, and I see it in the stats. 377 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: Like this Buffalo defense has been getting better right Like 378 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: they needed time when they lost Milano, they lost your 379 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: Davius White, they lost Daikwon Jones. They needed players to 380 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: step up. It took a while for them to all 381 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: gel to learn the offense, to learn the defense, to 382 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: learn their new roles. Guess what we still Douglas has 383 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: been playing great since you've joined the team. On Halloween. 384 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: Daikwan Jones is back the defensive lineman for the Bills. 385 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: Bailey Zappie Bailey Zappi forty seventh out of forty eight 386 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: in EPA per play. We know it's the right thing 387 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: to do here. We know the Bills, even at a 388 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: big number on the right side, we have not been 389 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: afraid of this. This is one of the games I 390 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: wanted to present to you as one of our potential 391 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: final five. 392 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want to get it in there, I mean, 393 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 3: I would let you, but you'd have to wear it. 394 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 2: It's just it's a big number in the divisional game. Brother. 395 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 2: The only reason I'm like want to get on it 396 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: with you is everything you just said. 397 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: Though. 398 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 3: It's like if Josh Allen brings his a game, which 399 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 3: I mean, let's be honest, we haven't seen him what 400 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks now, Like it feels like he's 401 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: hasn't played the games he was playing midway through the season, right, 402 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: he had a lot of games where yeah, he's still 403 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: turning the ball over, but he was putting up crazy numbers. 404 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: I mean, look at what Diggs has done for the 405 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 3: last month since they've switched OCS. 406 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: Like, it's just. 407 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 3: They've changed style. Wh I don't think they're trying to 408 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 3: blow teams out like they were. 409 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: Like, it's they're. 410 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: Kind of bringing the reins in a little bit on 411 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 3: Josh Allen becoming more of a run first team a 412 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: little bit right, Like they want to run the ball. 413 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 3: It seems like they'd have found their identity a little 414 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 3: bit of running the ball and it works because it 415 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: brings everything down, like it pulls everyone up where Josh 416 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: Allen he can attack downfield again to guys like Gabe Davis. Yeah, 417 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 3: it's just been interesting watching their offense change so much, 418 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: which is again why I think Josh Allen she would 419 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 3: have VP like their offense changed so much. So I'll 420 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: drink the coolie with you because I have this number 421 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: right where it is like I think it's like you're 422 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: getting no value technically on the Bills. But everything you 423 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 3: say is so true of like historically a dog like 424 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: New England winning a big game on the road, now 425 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 3: playing another back to back road game against the team 426 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 3: like the Bills who just played a really wonky, sloppy game. 427 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 3: The Bills should kill him, like Chad saying here, So 428 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 3: I get where you're coming from. I'm just a little 429 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 3: worried because the Bills have not earned that kind of 430 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: respect this season. They've never had a game where they've 431 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 3: dominated from start to finish. Every game sloppy and a 432 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: little close, and that's kind of been the Bills identity 433 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 3: this rich again, I love them for playoffs because they're 434 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 3: just this team that knows I pull these wins out, 435 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: like they can play in these really tough, sloppy games. 436 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: But you want to bet on them being not perfect 437 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 3: but pretty damn close to it. At this big of 438 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: a spread number, I'll ride with it. It'll be fun 439 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 3: to cheer for a thirteen and a half point favorite. 440 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I usually don't do it all. 441 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: See with the numbers. 442 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: I'm here for it. 443 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: Ay, ay, I'll let you do it, but you got 444 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: to wear it. And then saying you agree with everything 445 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: I said is a bullshit move. Like you can't say 446 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: I agree with everything you said, but then you got 447 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: to wear it. Either we're in it together or we're 448 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: not because you agree with me. 449 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 3: I wouldn't make it one of our five, That's what 450 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I mean, I'll bet it if you want 451 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 3: to take it, but there's other games I'd rather take them. 452 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: This for the our five. 453 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: Well, we're not done yet, so we can see if 454 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: you end up with this as one of our five. 455 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 2: You feel this passionate about the bills of thirteen and 456 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: a half, look at you. 457 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: Well, we'll see. I want to see what the number 458 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: is in the contest. It's thirteen, If it's twelve and 459 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: a half in the contest, for sure. If it's thirteen 460 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: and a half, I don't know. We'll have to see. 461 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to Hedge, I'm not trying to walk 462 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: it back, but I don't know what it is in 463 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: the contest yet. The bills make me want to yoke 464 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: heels something, throw your hands something. So throw your hand 465 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: back and sack trouble now the bills, I'm making it 466 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: happen now. Speaking of games where we were confident on Tuesday, 467 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: where you're feeling less confident today. The New York Giants, 468 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: they were plus six, they were your Signon says, it's 469 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: now down to five and a half, seventy one percent 470 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: of the money coming into the Giants. We know it's 471 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: professional money. You said something during the Sharp Call segment 472 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: that the five and a half didn't really bother you. 473 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: Kind of doesn't bother me either, Like I haven't looked 474 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: at the contest lines, but I assumed it would be 475 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: five and a half in the contest where we're taking 476 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: it at five and a half in the contest and 477 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: betting it at five and a half if you missed 478 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: the Simon says, not that concerned. I like the Giants 479 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: better with Tyrod Taylor. The biggest fear I have in 480 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: this game is Matthew Stafford. The Rams success throwing the 481 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: ball downfield and how dreadful the Giants' cornerbacks are. And 482 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: I was I thought you might say that's why some 483 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: of the wise guys are on the Rams. 484 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 3: I mean definitely the wise guys on the Rams, because 485 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: they've played some of the best football. Like speaking of 486 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: teams playing their best football at least last this last month, 487 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 3: the Rams are right up there. Already told you as 488 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 3: an Eagles fan, I'm dreading the two to seven matchup. 489 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 2: That's how it lays out. 490 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 3: Where it's Us first, the Rams, Like who wants to 491 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 3: play the Rams, especially if you have a bad secondary, 492 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 3: which is what you just said's true about the Giants, 493 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 3: Like I got a bad secondary. This should be easy 494 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: pickings for this Rams team. But I still think this 495 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 3: is just a bad spot for this Rams team, Like 496 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: it's sandwich in between, you know, a huge win they 497 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 3: just had and now they're going to play this game, 498 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 3: they have to go play the forty nine ers the 499 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 3: following week. 500 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: It's just a classic letdown game. 501 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 3: But I told you the reason I'm a little hesitant 502 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 3: is I can't believe there's pros and the other side 503 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: of it. Like the Rams, I just didn't think they'd 504 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: be pro money coming out. I just felt like that 505 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 3: was gonna be the most public team of the week, 506 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 3: and I mean it's still looking that way right at 507 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: most books, it's still seventy percent of the bets. Over 508 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 3: seventy percent of the money is on the Rams. You know, 509 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 3: despite this number, like Chad said, we gave it out 510 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: six and a half, it went down to four and 511 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: a half. Now it's out five and a half. I 512 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 3: still would take Giants of five and a half. It 513 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 3: just it feels the same spot as we took Carolina 514 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: last week. It's like you're playing a number. You're playing 515 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 3: a game they expect to be close, and even when 516 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: you know they were down I think two touchdowns Panthers, 517 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 3: I was just like, somehow we're going to get to 518 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 3: this number, and I can't believe it did, and it 519 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 3: laid it on three. 520 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: But it feels the. 521 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: Same thing here with the Giants of a team that 522 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: you know I can't help, but like, I'm gonna have 523 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: to bet them and I'm gon have to put them 524 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 3: in our money line around Robin. 525 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: It's just a spot we play here. At the end 526 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: of the season. You expect a team that you know, 527 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: Stafford and all them how well they've been playing. It's 528 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 2: really hard to keep it up. 529 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 3: And wow, that's a crazy staff from Evan, which if 530 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: you're a Rams backer like this, Rams are ten and 531 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 3: three straight up week before playing the forty nine ers 532 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 3: since twenty seventeen. 533 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: So forget everything I just said. 534 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: No, But well, no, I don't. You know what I 535 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: don't because teams that are in the final two weeks 536 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: of the season that need to win or get into 537 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs, that need either to get into the playoffs 538 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: or a win to improve their seating. Yeah, facing a 539 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: team with a winning percentage worse than them, in this 540 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: case the Giants and the Rams forty point three against 541 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: the spread the past twenty years. That includes this week, 542 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: by the way, unfortunately, leveland Buffalo, Houston, Rams, Colts, Falcons, Bucks, Chiefs, 543 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: Denver So a couple of games that we were talking about. 544 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: But certainly it's an indicator for the Giants. It just 545 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: feels like this feels like Carolina for the past two weeks. 546 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: It's the game you don't want to bet. You're a 547 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: little bit afraid of it. I said to you the 548 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: other day, I was really excited about the Rams, about 549 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: the rushing game, about Kyrine Williams about the giants inability 550 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: to defend against the run, and I'm like, this Giant, 551 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: this RAMS team is a juggernaut, and you were so confident. 552 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: You're like, this is when you bet the Giants. We 553 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: can't let people start chirping. No chirping. 554 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: Well that was more about I knew the six and 555 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 3: a half was gonna last. I just knew that number 556 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 3: was way too big and that the pros would hit it. 557 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 3: I didn't think they'd be hitting as big as they did. 558 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: I mean, this number did drop over to four and 559 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 3: a half, which is like, that's real money moving that. 560 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 2: Two points through a couple key numbers. 561 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: So the fact that is back to five and a half, 562 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 3: all you people out there, if you didn't miss the 563 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 3: Simon says, I wouldn't let it scare you off. I 564 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: would still take Giants five and a half. I would 565 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: take this, honestly, all the way down to four. So yeah, 566 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 3: to me, the value for us is still there for 567 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: the contest, even at four and a half. I would 568 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: still be comfortable putting this in the contest. 569 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: New Orleans at Tampa Bay. You're saying Tampa Bay minus 570 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: two and a half. I liked the Saints at plus three. 571 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: The wise guys have moved this number. It was a 572 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: surprisingly public play. Everything you said was square in the 573 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: way you defined what you wanted to do and why 574 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 1: you like this. Eighty eight percent of the money in 575 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: our database right now, wise guy money moving on the Saints. 576 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: One of the biggest luck rankings games we've had all year. 577 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: Favoring the Saints. Baker thirteen twenty five against the spread 578 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: as a favorite, the fifth lead profitable quarterback as a 579 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: spread the past two decades. 580 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I got I got nothing for you. 581 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: I hate it, like I know you're supposed to bet, 582 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: like Chad saying you're supposed to bet the Saints. The 583 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: numbers are gonna say it, the trends will say it 584 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 3: like as a better I want to be on the Saints. 585 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: This is such a spot to take them a fade 586 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 3: a Bucks team who's just been on a straight roll. 587 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: But it's the Dennis Allen Derek Carr effect. 588 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: I just don't not I don't trust those guys in 589 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: the spot and they break the trends like it's crazy 590 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 3: to say. If they came to me, they said it 591 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: was going to be Taysom Hill, I'd feel better about it. 592 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: But if it's Derek Carr. 593 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 3: Jamis Winston, I just I can't have faith and these 594 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 3: quarterbacks it's just you know, Derek Carr is just this 595 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 3: guy who just breaks the mold where it's I should 596 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: listen to Cres Raybaugh. Like his first season a new offense, 597 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 3: Chris talked about it. He's just terrible. And this season 598 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 3: they had the schedule, they had such an easy schedule. 599 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 3: They have so many good offensive weapons and I just 600 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: never could get it together and figure. 601 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: It out this year. 602 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: And yeah, this is for their season, this is everything. 603 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: Like they lose this, I believe they are officially eliminated 604 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 3: from the playoffs and the Bucks clinch right if they 605 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 3: win this in their division. 606 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: So you know, like we talked about earlier, I like backing. 607 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: Back in the road team with the points in this spot, 608 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 3: especially in divisional games. But yeah, I'm dug in, brother, 609 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: I'm on on the on the Bucks. But if you 610 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 3: if you want it to be once again, if you 611 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: want to be one of our picks, I won't find you, 612 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 3: just because I know the pros love it so much 613 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: and I might have a little blind spot here. 614 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: It's just I can't. I can't put faith into this 615 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: the SAT team. 616 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: I can't justify putting it in the contest knowing how 617 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: much you're against it, because I'm wrong. 618 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: I'm human. 619 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, but your instinct your instincts, and this tend to 620 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: be right and like and honestly, last week, our instincts 621 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: were both right about Detroit. And this is where this 622 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: is where betting just gets hard. Right, Like, even when 623 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: we talk about these trends, even when we talk about 624 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: the advantages, the models, the ratings, whatever, you're talking fifty 625 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: six to sixty percent of the time, which means two 626 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: out of three times you may win and one out 627 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: of three times you may lose. And that's not a 628 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: huge difference. So like, this could easily be one of 629 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: those games where everyone's wrong about the Saints and you're 630 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: right about the Bucks. Right, it could be the thirty 631 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: five percent, the thirty five to forty percent, even those 632 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: margins are small. Also, I don't feel as good about 633 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: this one as I do a different game. Okay, Atlantic Chicago, 634 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: and I know you love the Bears here and you 635 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: were admittedly square seventy eight percent of the money on Atlanta. 636 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: This one is not moved off of three, and Atlanta 637 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: just continues to be one of those teams that could 638 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: be bad luck, could be bad coaching, definitely bad quarterback play. 639 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: But when they're a dog, I am more comfortable with 640 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: them then when they are a favorite. They are getting 641 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: much healthier while the Bears are a little bit unhealthy 642 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: right now. Cole Comett did not practice week. Darnol Mooney 643 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: did not practice this week. Unlikely cole Comette plays DJ 644 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: Moore hobbled with an ankle. Atlanta's whole line, which has 645 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: been unhealthy the past few weeks, is back fully healthy. 646 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: David Donymada nose tackle who helps them dominate the running 647 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: game defensively. We'll be playing again, so we better about 648 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: Atlanta if we get the number. To me, this is 649 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: number dependent, to be honest. If Atlanta's three and a half, 650 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: I feel good about Atlanta right now. Is three. 651 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: Now interesting to me? Chad? 652 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 3: Of the last twenty years, who do you think is 653 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 3: the best Chicago Bears player right last twenty years you've 654 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 3: been a fan. 655 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: Who is the best player in Chicago bearris in the 656 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: last twenty years? 657 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: Probably Brian R. 658 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 3: Locker, and I think it might be Devin Hester and 659 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: the reason I bring that up, Chad, is you saw 660 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 3: they announced the Hall of Famers. Oh yeah, And I'm 661 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 3: oping Chicago fans like you remember how great this guy 662 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: was should be You should be pulling the strings, Chad, 663 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: reaching out to everyone, gonna be your first Famer. Yeah, 664 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: And I was thinking about it because I'm with you. 665 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 3: Brian Urca was incredible. I was saying about Bear's history. 666 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 2: I think it might. 667 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 3: I mean again, Erlacker could probably play almost an air 668 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 3: in any era, but Devin Hester and Sweetness, they're probably 669 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: the two guys in your guy's history that could play 670 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 3: literally in enny air. Like you watched us highlight reels 671 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: with Devin Hester. He's gonna have that record forever, right, 672 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 3: no one's ever gonna break that kick return recD. And 673 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 3: the reason I popped up was just because I wanted to, 674 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 3: Like I've talked to another Bears fans he said the 675 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 3: same thing you did, like last twenty years, I'd go 676 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 3: Erlacker and it's like, damn, no one, No one remembers 677 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 3: Devin Hester. 678 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: He just so so many times. There was a game 679 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: against the Cardinals on the Bear when the Bears had 680 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: that run of the Super Bowl where he had a 681 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: run back that was amazing. And then that was a 682 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: rookie year, right, I think was it too it was 683 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and five six. 684 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 3: And either his first year, second year in the league, 685 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 3: because I was I was, I think, uh yeah, because 686 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 3: I was like my Madden days and like when he 687 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 3: came into the game, it changed everything. 688 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: Look, he also had that amazing runback the opening player 689 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl that I was at where me 690 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: and me and my buddy Matt nearly leapt out of 691 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: our shoes in that game. And it just gets for 692 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: that gets forgotten A because it was a monsoon. B 693 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: it was when Prince played Purple Rain in the rain 694 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: and see Peyton Manning won his first Super Bowl, But 695 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: that Devin Hester back gets forgotten. Are you trying to 696 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: avoid talking about this game? 697 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 3: No, it's my long way away again. You come back 698 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 3: around the bear. It's like, think about your nostalgia, all 699 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 3: your happiness. Don't jump off the bandwagon yet, And like 700 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 3: this week, it's really this week, I'm betting. Honestly, I'm 701 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 3: going against a lot of things we usually do because 702 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 3: I'm going with what these teams are at this point, 703 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 3: Like I'm not gonna keep making up my head what 704 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 3: these teams could be and what their potential is and 705 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: what they should do in these scenarios. And yeah, the 706 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 3: value is, like Chad's saying at three and a half, technically, yes, 707 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: the value is on Atlanta. But I just I don't 708 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 3: believe in them. I don't believe in that team, don't 709 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 3: believe in the quarterback, don't believe in the coaching, And 710 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 3: I just think the Bears, I mean, they are due 711 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 3: for a bad game, I suppose, but they've just been 712 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 3: playing so well. It feels like it's all full into 713 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 3: place with this Bear's team, Like they know exactly who 714 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 3: the identity is on offense right now, and the same 715 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 3: goes for their defense, Like they're just so I want 716 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 3: to say, they're so good right now, it's crazy. Like 717 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 3: this Bears team arguably would be terrifying if you played 718 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 3: them in the playoffs, right if they could somehow get in, 719 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 3: they would have been a terrifying matchup for most teams. 720 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 3: So Atlanta outdoors with Heinike on the road, gotta fade. 721 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 3: I gotta fade, especially against the Bears defense that turns 722 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 3: quarterbacks over, like the dude's gonna get turned over, and 723 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 3: they're gonna make a one dimensional like you don't think 724 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 3: they know like we do that. All the Landa wants 725 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 3: to do is run the ball and then have play 726 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 3: action passes. 727 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 2: Like Arthur Smith. 728 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 3: The gig feels a little bit up here right Even 729 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 3: their own fan base is kind of turning against them. 730 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm I know it is the professional spot 731 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 3: to play Atlanta here, but I'm just not buying it. 732 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm gonna stick on the Bears. I'm gonna 733 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 3: dig in Chad. I know it's a weird week for me, 734 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 3: but it's just I'm not buying a lot of this bullshit. 735 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: These teams are selling. 736 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: Very uncomfortable for me right now. I'm not sure who 737 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Carolina at Jacksonville. I feel like this 738 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 1: is one where we can rhon. We liked it at seven, 739 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: it moved to six and a half. Trevor Lawrence injured. 740 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: I don't believe he practiced yesterday. We continue to see 741 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: he did not practice yesterday. I'm looking at my notes 742 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: more clearly. Evan last week had a great stat about 743 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: Bryce Young against the spread in the second half, one 744 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: of the top four qbs, and we've seen this as 745 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: Panthers backers for a couple of consecutive weeks. He just 746 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: ballin in the second half of these games, so you know, 747 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 1: uh oh, here's a cool stat most turnover turnover worthy 748 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: plays since week thirteen. Trevor Lawrence twelve, Nick Mullins nine. 749 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: We're going to get to Nick Mullins and the Vikings 750 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes seven. My point is I'm comfortable with the 751 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: Giants at five and a half. I'm also comfortable with 752 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers at six and a half. 753 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's another again, though I hate because it's something 754 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 3: that we have to take right. It's like this number 755 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 3: is too big. We have to keep back in Carolina. 756 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 3: Funny because every week I'm like, all right, finally the 757 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 3: market will catch up to Carolina. We need to bet 758 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 3: him every week. We have to bet him again. I'm 759 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 3: with you people, but people keep bitch about it. I 760 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 3: had someone complain They're like, I've been on the sideline 761 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 3: these last two weeks with Carolina because I just can't 762 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 3: buy into them. I agree, I understand it, like it's 763 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 3: it's not been enjoyable. 764 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 2: But we've been winning. 765 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 3: Chad and the number it feels like it's still too big. 766 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 3: The market hasn't caught up to it. It's like, even 767 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 3: if Trevor Lawrence was fully healthy, I honestly could see 768 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 3: this number being seven, Like, I don't see it being 769 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 3: that much higher because that's how bad the Jaguars have 770 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 3: been playing defensively and offensively. 771 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: So the fear here is I. 772 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 3: Don't like back in Carolina on the road, they just 773 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 3: this season have struggled on the road more so than 774 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 3: at home. Like for some reason, at home they do 775 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 3: rally their defense. I know they didn't show it last week, 776 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 3: but historically this year they played better at home than 777 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 3: on the road. So if there was a spot for 778 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence to get right, this would be it. But 779 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 3: me and Chat talked about that last shows. I got 780 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: a bump, shoulder, a bad leg, and he's coming off 781 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 3: a concussion, Like it's it's crazy how banged up and 782 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 3: hell together this guy is. Now he's got burns coming, like, 783 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 3: you know, the d line of Carolina is not terrible, 784 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 3: Like they can actually get after guys for the most part. 785 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 2: So yeah, ched like. 786 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 3: Another game where I don't know if we're gonna make 787 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 3: it our foxhole. But you know, I don't hate don't 788 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 3: hate this spot for Carolina at all. 789 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: I think it needs to be a foxhole or big 790 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: balls because right now we are on the Giants, as 791 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: Simon says, and that would be the other contender for 792 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: one of those two. We owe a fox hole in 793 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: big balls. It feels big ballsy to me, because backing 794 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: Carolina at any point is big ballsy. This would be 795 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: I think our third time in a row backing the 796 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 1: Panthers as our big balls better the week. 797 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 3: It's probably the right thing, but I don't think it 798 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 3: takes that big of balls. I got a bigger balls 799 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 3: back coming up. And if you don't don't like, we 800 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 3: can go back to this one. But Wayne, do you 801 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 3: hear the game I like for a big balls game? 802 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: All right, well then let's put this in. Why don't 803 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: we just put this in Foxhoult. 804 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 2: You love this game? All right? We'll play in the 805 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 2: Foxhoult Carolina. 806 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: Going to the Foxhoul with Carolina. 807 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 3: You know me, regardless of what's going on, I'm a 808 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 3: foxhole guy. 809 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 4: I commit to a team, I commit to a city. 810 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 2: I'm a foxhole guy. 811 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: The last game that I want to talk about, green 812 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: Bay and Minnesota is my exact decision. Of course, you 813 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: know I made this decision before JayR Alexander, the highest 814 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: paid cornerback in the NFL, was suspended. Do you know 815 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: why he was suspended, Simon, I do. He was suspended 816 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: because in the game against Carolina he is from Charlotte. 817 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: Unbeknownst to anyone on the team, including his head coach, 818 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: he walked out for the opening coin toss with the 819 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: captains because he decided he should have been honored to 820 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: walk out in a game in Charlotte. And then not 821 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: only did he walk out without telling anybody for the 822 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: opening coin toss, he then made the call of what 823 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: the Packers were going to do and made it incorrectly. 824 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: And so so this week he has been suspended for 825 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: contact detrimental to the team. He will not be playing 826 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 1: that aside, I think I still like Green Bay here, 827 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: like everyone's got injuries. I like, I don't know who 828 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: the Vikings are playing at quarterback. They will probably without 829 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 1: Jordanette Addison who did not practice. Definitely without TJ. Hockinson. 830 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: And most important is it Nick Mullins, Is it Josh Dobbs? 831 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: Is it going to be the rookie? Like, who's it 832 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: going to be? So I think we still got to 833 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: go to green Bay. 834 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say the only pushback that I got 835 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 3: from our pick, like the pros that called me up 836 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 3: and I had said at the time, I hadn't run 837 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 3: the numbers, and I think the number is fair at 838 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 3: this number. 839 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 2: The model agrees with it. But the pushback is, this is. 840 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 3: A defense in green Bay that made Tommy DeVito the 841 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 3: NFC Offense Spliff Player of the week. It's a defense 842 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 3: and made Baker Mayfield the offensive player of the week. 843 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 3: And then last week Panthers, the team that has been 844 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 3: dead all season, put up thirty points. Bry she Young 845 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 3: put up thirty points against this green Bay defense. And 846 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 3: you know, as much as we like the praises green 847 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 3: Bay team and Jordan Love, which has been incredible, Like 848 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 3: if you're a green Bay fan, you must be a static, 849 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 3: Like this guy looks incredible, the defense has just been 850 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 3: brutal and now we are facing shocking to say, this 851 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 3: a Nick Mullens guy, who's is it two straight weeks 852 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 3: He's throwing for over three hundred yards something crazy like that, 853 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 3: Like we. 854 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: Might not be facing him, That's what I'm saying, Like 855 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: we don't know who they're facing. But whoever they're facing, 856 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: it's either going to be a guy who is so 857 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: inaccurate he's got the most turnover worthy plays since Week 858 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: thirteen other than Lawrence, or they're playing Josh Jobbs, who 859 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: we know is not a quality NFL quarterback, or they're 860 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: playing a rookie who's basically lasted one play before Josh 861 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: jobs came in. So we don't know what kind of 862 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: quarterback they're going to be playing, but we do know 863 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 1: they have a quarterback who's really, really good and really 864 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: good against the blitz, which is what the Vikings are 865 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: best at. 866 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 3: The best case it is Dobbs, though, like we want 867 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 3: the guy who can't throw the ball, right, Like that's 868 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 3: the weakness of this team. And we said it when 869 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 3: Dobbs was playing, like he's gonna eventually turn back into 870 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 3: a pumpkin guy can't throw the ball, Like that's why. 871 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 2: He is what he is. 872 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 3: Nick Bullens can throw the ball. I mean he's has 873 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 3: turnover where he plays. But like you know, when you 874 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 3: have justin Jefferson, it's the game changer of game changers, 875 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 3: Like you can make the most turnover throws ever. And 876 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 3: the guy what was it third and twenty five, he 877 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 3: like pulled it down somehow. It's just it's incredible, like 878 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 3: you forget it because he had been gone for so long, 879 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 3: but it's like, oh, yeah, that's the guy who was 880 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 3: the best player in the league last year at wide receivers. 881 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 3: So nothing changed for me, though, Chad, like, I'm with 882 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 3: you on it. I'm on Green Bay. I'm backing it 883 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 3: for what you just said. It feels like I have 884 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 3: more confidence in Jordan Love and that Green Bay offense 885 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 3: in this spot, and I do a Vikings team that's 886 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 3: been playing so above their head, like we already talked 887 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,439 Speaker 3: about it on Tuesday show, but like I know they're 888 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 3: not going to give it to them coach of the Year, 889 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 3: But I mean, this is crazy, Like this Minnesota team, 890 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 3: I cannot believe they're in this position with their fourth quarterback. 891 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 2: The whole thing is so crazy. 892 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 3: How just football, how dependent it is on the coaching, 893 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 3: Like everyone in the town level is so close, but 894 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 3: if you have the right coaching, it can be everything. 895 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 3: And this Vikings defense and offense just can't can't hat 896 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 3: tip them enough. But yeah, the pros, like I said, 897 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 3: the pros I talked to, they like the Vikings here, 898 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 3: So don't be shocked if you should see the summer 899 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 3: go up to two. Me and Chad would be elated 900 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 3: if this gets up to two and a half for 901 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 3: us in the contest. But I think it'll stay at 902 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 3: two one and a half. That's where it's gonna sit 903 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 3: to me until kickoff. 904 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: All Right, you said you had a big balls that 905 00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: we haven't discussed. 906 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to for here. 907 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,280 Speaker 1: All right, let's hear it. 908 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 2: Chad, are we backing the Washington the Commanders? Dude? 909 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: I didn't know if you're going to go with the 910 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 1: Commanders or the Cardinals. And look, we talked about this 911 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: the other day. Jacobe Brissett just getting in his licks 912 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: at the end of games when the game is so 913 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:21,959 Speaker 1: far out of reach. 914 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 2: I know, I know, I don't know what to do 915 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 2: with it. 916 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:32,399 Speaker 1: Is like, is San Francisco in a spot where historically 917 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: they're terrible and you want to fade them, or are 918 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: they going to be in a spot where they know 919 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: they need to get it right and prove they can 920 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: dominate a game. Trent Williams again injured, don't know his 921 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: status for the weekend. Could be. Christian McCaffrey rebound grab 922 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 1: the MVP away from Lamar Jackson. I mean, it certainly 923 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: takes balls. 924 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 2: So that was one, and then you already said it 925 00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 2: like Arizona. 926 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 3: That's what we were talking, these big favorites and these 927 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 3: big dogs, Like I'm with you on Buffalo. I would 928 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 3: just rather take Arizona's a big dog or take Washington 929 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 3: as a big dog, like either one. To me, I 930 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 3: like them both. If we're saying which one do I 931 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 3: feel more comfortable in, It's got to be Arizona, right 932 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 3: where Eagles team just like the Bills, Who the hell 933 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 3: are they to be catching this many points? Like they 934 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 3: keep having these games of letting these teams back in 935 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 3: where just like josh Allen Hurts can't stop making stupid turnovers, 936 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 3: like he'll make incredible plays where like plays were only 937 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 3: a couple of guys in the league can make those 938 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 3: kind of plays, and then he'll have the most boneheaded turnover. 939 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,760 Speaker 3: And we talked about it to the Shane Stikeen effect, 940 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 3: like they lost their row. See, their offense hasn't looked 941 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 3: right all season, and Arizona is the perfect team to 942 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 3: get right against. Right they are one of the worst 943 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 3: defenses in football. But Kyler on the flip side. I mean, 944 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 3: you said in that Bears game they had tons of opportunities, 945 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,879 Speaker 3: they just couldn't connect on it. And it's like, I'd 946 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 3: rather bet Arizona get unlucky here, because that's I want 947 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 3: to take to not cover the summer phelsically Arizona, like 948 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 3: Arizona should cover this number against this Eagles team. The 949 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 3: number is way too big. It's just a classic spot 950 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 3: of the books. They know the ten point teasers are 951 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 3: coming in heavy, like this is such a ten point 952 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,800 Speaker 3: teaser game, like this game, the forty nine Ers, the Bills. 953 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 3: People love those kind of bets, like string all three 954 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 3: of them together. That's just it lines up perfectly. So 955 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 3: unfortunate this number has come down, but I would still 956 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 3: take it at eleven. If you would take the Arizona again, 957 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 3: I'd feel more comfortable to taking this over Washington, just 958 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 3: because we've seen the fortynineers actually play really well this year. 959 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 2: We have not seen that from the Eagles. Well. 960 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: Look, remember on Tuesday, I wanted to make Arizona my 961 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: exec decision, and then I got squeamish because the number 962 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: had moved a point and a half two points from 963 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: twelve down to I think ten and a half or ten, 964 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 1: and so I walked away from it and went with 965 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,919 Speaker 1: Green Bay in stacks. I like that matchup a little 966 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,399 Speaker 1: bit more just because I think Jordan Love is going 967 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: to be the best sort of offensive producer on the 968 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: field consistently who has the ball in his hands the most. 969 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: But I think the breakdown matchup wise for Arizona in 970 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: this game is great for them, And I love Trey 971 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: McBride against the middle of this Eagles defense that has 972 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: just not been able to be productive defending against the 973 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 1: middle of the field, especially tight ends in the middle 974 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: of the field. So Arizona Cardinals against the Philadelphia Eagles 975 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: as underdogs will be our big balls better of the week. 976 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: Saying it for the entire hotel to hear. Throw that 977 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 1: graphic up there, Tito. We are not afraid of it, 978 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: not afraid of it at all. It's interesting, Simon, I 979 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: don't know that we have five games right now. 980 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got two more games to talk about. 981 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 1: Oh all right, all right, have you. 982 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,280 Speaker 2: Come around on the Seahawks? 983 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 3: Are you still believing in Pittsburgh and Mason Rudolph on 984 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 3: the road in Seattle? 985 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,280 Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph on the road in Seattle. 986 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: I know, I know when you say it like that, 987 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: I mean, of course, of course I'm going to be like, yeah, 988 00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 1: let's do Seattle. 989 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 2: Do it. 990 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 3: Look, you gotta take some of these home chalk, all right. 991 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 3: Not all these road favorites are gonna win. It doesn't 992 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 3: work that way. Like there's a reason they're sucking you 993 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 3: guys in with these three and a halfs. Yeah, if 994 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 3: you don't want to do that, if you don't want 995 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 3: to do Seahawks, what about Colts? Like I just I 996 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 3: want to take one of these chalky home favorites. I 997 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,919 Speaker 3: just I like them, like I like the chalk this week, 998 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 3: I like some of these home favorites where it's just 999 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 3: it feels like we're getting good value on teams that 1000 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,320 Speaker 3: they're playing against, teams overvalued. Pittsburgh feels overvalued, the Raiders 1001 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 3: feel overvalued. 1002 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 2: So it's like, I don't know. 1003 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 3: Which one of these I'm gonna try to force in 1004 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 3: on you, Chad, But it's like, I don't know, just 1005 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 3: feels like a good spot for the Colts, and it 1006 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 3: feels like a great spot for the Seahawks. Like the Seahawks. 1007 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 3: Say what you want about that team. I know they've 1008 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 3: had back to back really close games. It's just like 1009 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 3: we've seen them at home when they're playing against inferior talent, which. 1010 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph is is. 1011 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 3: Their defense can turn teams over, and I feel like 1012 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 3: this is a good spot for their defense, Seahawks wise 1013 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,760 Speaker 3: against Mason rulf and the offense. But it's just crazy 1014 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 3: after one week the fear of the Steelers people have 1015 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 3: because you're like I talked to a bunch of pros 1016 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 3: who like the Steelers, and I just kept saying, it's 1017 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph in Seattle. 1018 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, all right, I have no strong 1019 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,439 Speaker 1: opinion on this game as I do and like say 1020 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 1: the Saints or Atlanta, So let's go with Seattle. 1021 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 3: Well, if I told you a majority of the money 1022 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 3: and the bets right now are coming in on Pittsburgh 1023 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,800 Speaker 3: and this number is not Budge from the three and 1024 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 3: a half, well. 1025 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: That would tell me there's someone very very sharp coming 1026 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,359 Speaker 1: in on Seattle to balance this out, and for all 1027 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: I know, it could be you. 1028 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, give me gim me Gino Smith at home 1029 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 2: with the Twelfth Man. 1030 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 1: All right, So Seattle's in it. It will go over 1031 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: the final five before before we before all of said 1032 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 1: and done, because I feel like there's potential potentially. 1033 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 2: It feels like we got to six or seven of 1034 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 2: them at this point, right. 1035 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, yeah, I do all right. Before 1036 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,320 Speaker 1: we get to our money line, underdog around, Robin reminded 1037 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,879 Speaker 1: of the week seventeen contest tiebreaker is total passing yards 1038 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 1: on Monday night, Football Action Network predictive analyst Billy Ward 1039 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,359 Speaker 1: writes a weekly article about tiebreaker strategy, and a link 1040 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: to that article can be found in this episode description. 1041 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: If you want to leg up in the contest, Good 1042 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:31,760 Speaker 1: luck everybody. All right, let's talk about how we're gonna 1043 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 1: make Little Caesars, which is the official pizza sponsor of 1044 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: the NFL, part of your game day, Simon. Can I 1045 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 1: assume your number one New Year's resolution is to eat 1046 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: more Little Caesars pizza. It is order online during our 1047 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 1: Pizza Pizza pre game one hour before NFL games and 1048 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: get ready for some football and fun. Choose your favorite 1049 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: Little Caesars pizza or pick the toppings you crave. Sign in. 1050 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 1: I have a new motto. What do you think about 1051 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,879 Speaker 1: this one? That I invented? If Russell Wilson left your 1052 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: holidays crushed? Cheer yourself up with crazy crust. I do 1053 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: that so fast, don't I like the news about Russell Wilson. 1054 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: He's so in the moment, and I just come up 1055 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: with these phrases just like that. However, you are your pizza, 1056 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 1: you win. And speaking of winning, everyone scores with convenient 1057 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,479 Speaker 1: delivery or our in store pizza portal pickup. So grab 1058 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,760 Speaker 1: some friends and enjoy a few slices during the game. 1059 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 1: Also reminder, for the second time, you can catch every 1060 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,280 Speaker 1: episode of The Favorites live on YouTube every Tuesday Thursday Sunday. 1061 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 1: If you're watching on YouTube, don't forget to give us 1062 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 1: a like and subscribe to the Action Network YouTube page. 1063 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: Let's talk about our money line, Underdog Round Robin pot 1064 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: dog blocks your dog, Your dog blocks bot Dog. Well, shoot, 1065 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to put the giants in there. 1066 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,399 Speaker 2: Let's get Arizona in there. 1067 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 1: Arizona probably Carolina. 1068 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Panthers. 1069 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 3: Let's see a Green Bay's number, I mean Green Bays 1070 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:06,839 Speaker 3: plus one one ten? 1071 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,800 Speaker 1: All right, green Bay? What about Detroit? 1072 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 2: Okay plus plus one eighty? 1073 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 1: I mean that game you could easily see them running 1074 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: Dallas out of the building as easily as we can 1075 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 1: see Dallas dominating that game. 1076 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's all about what kind of Dak shows up. 1077 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,839 Speaker 3: But historically Dak at home shows up right in these 1078 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 3: kind of spots. 1079 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 1: It's exactly what I say, who's showing up, who's on 1080 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: both sides? Who's showing up for Detroit? Are they a 1081 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 1: team that's hungover? Are they a team that's motivated. Are 1082 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 1: they a team that feels they can grasp the brass 1083 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: ring right now because there's still potential for them to 1084 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: sneak in with a higher seed. We don't know at 1085 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,800 Speaker 1: this point. At this point, to quote one of the 1086 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 1: greatest movies ever about last Night, at this point, we 1087 00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: just don't know. Detroit, Green Bay, Carolina, Arizona, New York 1088 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: Football Giants. You feel good about those? 1089 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? Right now? 1090 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 3: Looking at money lines, Arizona's only getting five percent of 1091 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 3: the bets and five percent of handle on their money line. 1092 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 1: What are we doing? 1093 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 2: Hey? 1094 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 3: If there's only getting ten percent of the bets, ten 1095 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 3: percent of the money on their money line, and we're 1096 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 3: the Giants. I just love when no one's bet on 1097 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 3: the Giants six percent of the bets, nine percent of 1098 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 3: the money on their money line. So I love those 1099 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 3: kind of spots where no one's touching the money lines 1100 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 3: and we're taking them. 1101 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,879 Speaker 2: So I like this once for this week, our last, 1102 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 2: our last part. 1103 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 1: Of the year, Simon, we are going ugly. What are 1104 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 1: your biggest bets of the week right now? Uh? 1105 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,799 Speaker 3: I mean it was definitely Giants. I haven't put too 1106 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 3: much x more though since numbers moved to the five 1107 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 3: and a half. I'll be honest, but I mean I 1108 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 3: slammed it at six six and a half. Same thing 1109 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 3: goes for Miami, like love Miami if you can still 1110 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 3: find three and a half four been hitting that For 1111 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:14,280 Speaker 3: the chalk bets, I'm going heavy on so far Colts, Seahawks, Bears, 1112 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 3: and I haven't made a single bet on this Bucks game. 1113 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 3: I might have like a thousand bucks on it. At most. 1114 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 3: I was just waiting to talk to people and figure 1115 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,839 Speaker 3: out what to do it with it. I know I'm 1116 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 3: dug in, so I guess I will eventually bet this 1117 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 3: Bucks game, but it's like a part of me just 1118 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,880 Speaker 3: wants to stay away because I have no idea what 1119 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 3: to do with it. It's like everything like we talked 1120 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 3: about me and chat, I want to take the Saints, 1121 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 3: but I just can't do it, so yeah, I know 1122 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 3: people are shocked here that books are one of my 1123 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 3: bigger bets are and I just I don't know what 1124 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,880 Speaker 3: to do with it, Like I just feels so damn chalky. 1125 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 2: But I know it's the right side. 1126 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 3: So come Sunday, I'm sure bucks will get up there, 1127 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 3: especially if it's still a two and a half. 1128 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,759 Speaker 2: But I'm just screaming sh right now trying to bet 1129 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:53,240 Speaker 2: that number. 1130 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,760 Speaker 1: Well, that's how we feel about putting in the contest. 1131 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 1: As a reminder of the favorite podcast is presented by 1132 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,800 Speaker 1: Bet three six five. 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Evan, give us something 1150 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 1: to hold on to, really our guard rail on the 1151 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 1: roller coaster of betting life. The last word with Evan Abrams, 1152 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 1: we're finished talking. 1153 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 4: When I went into this week fellas, I had to 1154 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 4: come up with a stat for Vikings Packers and Buck 1155 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 4: Saints just because I felt like it was fifty to 1156 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 4: fifty the entire way and everyone had an opinion. So 1157 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,320 Speaker 4: this is what I came up with. So both games 1158 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 4: are a win and survive losing go home type of game. 1159 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,359 Speaker 4: So in December or later, when two division teams play 1160 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 4: both with win percentage between forty percent and sixty percent, 1161 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 4: which is literally the fighting zone this time of year, 1162 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 4: home teams forty two, sixty seven and two thirty eight 1163 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 4: point five percent. Last twenty years, in those games, the 1164 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 4: two teams in match, the Minnesota Vikings the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 1165 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 2: Wow, see what we'll see what happens? 1166 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: Alright, Well, I feel better about putting Green Bay in now. 1167 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah that one. 1168 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 1: I saw that one. 1169 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 4: I was like leading with that, all right. Two totals 1170 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,800 Speaker 4: worth talking about Detroit Dallas currently fifty three and a 1171 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 4: half would be the highest closing total of the season 1172 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 4: so far. Totals of fifty plus actually twenty seven and 1173 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,439 Speaker 4: twelve sixty nine percent to the under last two years. 1174 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,360 Speaker 4: So we'll see which way that goes. Inside indoors fast 1175 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,759 Speaker 4: track Jets Browns down to thirty four on Thursday Night 1176 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 4: Football with a spread of seven and a half, though 1177 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 4: this would be the first game to close with a 1178 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 4: total below thirty five for the spread of seven or 1179 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 4: more since Steelers Broncos twenty twelve playoff game Tim Tebow 1180 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 4: to the Marius Thomas over time shown. So that was 1181 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 4: a fun one. Good memory there. And then I leave 1182 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 4: you with this, Patrick Mahomes, We have no idea what's 1183 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,440 Speaker 4: going on, except here are the numbers. He is thirty five, 1184 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 4: twenty two and one to the under in his home 1185 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 4: starts in his career last two years fifteen and three 1186 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 4: to the under in his home starts, going under by 1187 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 4: six point eight points per game, and this season Chiefs 1188 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 4: second half unders thirteen and two fourth quarter unders this year. 1189 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 1: Fourteen and one. Hey, Matt Naggy, huh be Ben's been 1190 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 1: not not been very nice. Oh you had to make 1191 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 1: it about man nagget in gin. Yeah, Well, can't be 1192 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 1: about the receivers. It can't be about Travis Kelce. It 1193 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 1: can't be well, the drops, the wide receiver drops. There 1194 00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 1: you go exactly all right, if we had to do 1195 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 1: the five, the phase five right now to sign him. 1196 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: Here's what I think. We're looking at Carolina, Green Bay Giants, Arizona, 1197 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 1: and then I think it's coming down to Buffalo or Seattle. 1198 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 1: And I actually feel like by Sunday this could all change. 1199 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 2: I'll do. 1200 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 3: We need to get one favorite in though last week 1201 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 3: we did five dogs. I told you always want to 1202 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 3: get one favorite in there. We should have had a 1203 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 3: lane in there last week. So either or Seattle, I'm 1204 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 3: happy to force in one favorite. 1205 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: Well, let's look, it's Buffalo right now. Buffalo or Seattle 1206 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:31,919 Speaker 1: are the remaining too. 1207 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 3: It's someone with tougher skin. I can handle the criticism. 1208 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 3: I'll take seahawks. 1209 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 1: Are you fucking kidding me? O, life is criticism. Do 1210 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 1: you know what it's like. Do you know what it's 1211 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 1: like to be me? To have been in this business 1212 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 1: for this long, to be raising two sons who spend 1213 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,960 Speaker 1: most of their day talking to you the way I 1214 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,440 Speaker 1: talk to my parents, as if they don't even know 1215 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 1: how to turn on their phone. Don't talk to me 1216 00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,440 Speaker 1: about not having a tough skin. 1217 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 2: You seem like a hando criticism Really well, right. 1218 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 1: Now, this reaction notwithstanding, do not talk to me. Do 1219 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 1: not talk to me about not having touch it. Will 1220 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 1: continue to discuss this as we move forward. 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