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Speaker 4: David Mulligata, the agent for Micah Parsons, was on first take.

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Speaker 3: Of course, so he's talking that Yeah, of course he was.

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Speaker 4: He was on first take, and he had a couple

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Speaker 4: of interesting, interesting things to say, one of which was

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Speaker 4: the quote unquote negotiation that Micah Parsons and Jerry Jones

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Speaker 4: allegedly had back in March when Micah got back from

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Speaker 3: This was his agent's take on that situation.

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Speaker 6: As far as far as Mike's concerned, he was, you know,

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Speaker 3: He was ready to meet.

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Speaker 6: At some point during that meeting that was represented to

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Speaker 6: turned into contract talk. And you know, if you're a

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Speaker 6: So they had a conversation. Micah nodded his head out

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Speaker 6: of respect. Obviously, there's a power dynamic that's a little

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Speaker 6: not sure if there was a miscommunication there by the

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Speaker 3: So that was a that makes sense. I mean, that

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Speaker 4: Eh, Well, numbers were discussed, and there was another report

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Speaker 3: In the contract. So I don't believe that, Okay, man, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Like again, and even if they had the discussion, even

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Speaker 3: In fact, I would I would extend further.

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Speaker 1: To say the vast majority of guys that are in

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Speaker 5: Yes, so I think that's rather obvious. Well, the thing

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Speaker 5: then when Jerry asked him to come up, he's talking

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Speaker 5: like you're actually negotiating the contract. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: Like you maybe put in some framework or talking about

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Speaker 5: to paper, right, Like so many things have fallen through

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Speaker 5: the time. So like the general point that I would

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Speaker 5: Like this isn't the good old days, Like that's not

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Speaker 5: how it works, Jerry. So I don't care if there

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to get in writing. Yeah, Like forget that,

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Speaker 5: you have to get in writing. Like Jerry Jones is

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Speaker 5: a savvy enough businessman to know that any deal he's

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Speaker 5: negotiation like contract being taken place. That's not how the

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Speaker 5: Bland to that there was that just a spit on

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Speaker 5: It's just when it comes down to it, none of

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Speaker 5: Both parties signed the agreement and that's the contract we're

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Speaker 5: want with moving forward. And obviously they couldn't come to that.

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Speaker 5: And you know, Micah was wise enough to make sure

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Speaker 5: deal he wanted. I just, you know, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: I think he'll play, and I think that this whole

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Speaker 1: conversation about what took place between Jerry Jones and Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 3: You tell guys, it is so old, and listen.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones has done how many contracts during the duration

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Speaker 1: a part of. I don't act like this is on

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, Like that's whack is s. I don't act

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Speaker 1: like it's on Michael Parsons. Whatever it was that you

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Speaker 1: were trying to get done, Jerry, you try to get

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Speaker 1: with the agent. And if that doesn't align, it doesn't align.

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Speaker 1: But don't try to make this mess out to be

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Speaker 1: like Micaeh like did the contract but didn't do the

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Speaker 1: contract and then his agent came and met No, don't

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Speaker 1: do that doesn't add up, It doesn't make sense. You're

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Speaker 1: a team. So don't put that out there like that,

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Speaker 1: because that's misleading. Even if you had that conversation, you

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Speaker 1: come in there and he talked to you about numbers

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Speaker 3: It's easy, believe you me, it's easy.

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Speaker 1: To feel like you have a close relationship with the

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Speaker 1: you have close conversations, you're in close quarters, you discuss things,

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Speaker 1: hit on your emotional strings and your chords and talk

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Speaker 1: about what the city means and all these things. Stop

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Speaker 1: putting that on Micah Parsons. The bottom line is a

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Speaker 1: contract wasn't done. You needed to talk to the agent

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Speaker 1: at some point in time, no matter what the conversation

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Speaker 1: needed to get on the same page. That didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Just say we needed to get on the same page.

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Speaker 1: We weren't on the same page. And now Mike's gone.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Like all this other stuff to try to justify one

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Speaker 1: thing over to another, this and that, it's a dumb

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Speaker 3: I don't give a damn if Michael Parsons has.

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Speaker 1: Three good years left in that back, that's still a

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Speaker 1: horrible move. To allow Michael Parsons to leave, that's a

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Speaker 1: horrible move. And nothing you say, nothing you're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: Whether you agree with it that Micah's agent or not,

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Speaker 1: whether you listen to all of the speculation or the

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Speaker 1: things that get reported.

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Speaker 3: Out there or not.

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Speaker 1: The bottom line is there's no justification for letting Michael

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Speaker 1: Parsons leave your team before his rookie contract was over.

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Speaker 1: You didn't do another contract with him. You can't justify it.

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Speaker 1: Let's just move on. I want to get your asses

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Speaker 1: kicked by phillym Go get that ass whipped, come back

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Speaker 1: and have to answer more questions about why you didn't

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Speaker 1: bring Michael Parsons back. You did this, Why don't you

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Speaker 1: go get your ass. Don't blame that on somebody else.

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Speaker 1: You did that.

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Speaker 4: David Wullagatta also explain sort of the structure of the

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Speaker 6: From an APY stamp standpoint, you're just looking at the

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Speaker 6: average that there was offered to him. I believe it

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Speaker 6: made him at the time from an APY standpoint, the

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Speaker 6: highest paid. That being said, the way the cash flower

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Speaker 6: structured over his first three new years, he would not

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Speaker 6: be paid as the highest player, highest paid player in

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Speaker 6: the NFL. So again that's why I say the devil's

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Speaker 6: in the details. And another important part of the contract

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Speaker 6: Right when you look at that that fifth new year,

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Speaker 6: it could be the difference in thirty to forty million

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Speaker 5: where a lot of these deals are done between universities

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00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 5: and student athletes. They use these marketplaces because it helps

440
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 5: provide the proper you know, tax documentation compliance, you know forms,

441
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 5: et cetera, and then obviously the contract. It makes it

442
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 5: really easy. It's it's kind of like if you had

443
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,239
Speaker 5: a DocuSign right, you know, someone signs a contract to you,

444
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 5: send that online, you sign up on the docu sign.

445
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 5: The reason why I'm trying to find this is because,

446
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 5: like the numbers that have been thrown out are overstated.

447
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 5: I've said this for years, and this black book actually

448
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 5: provides you with our data, not like what one coach says,

449
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 5: not when some other coach says, like I was in

450
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 5: this too deep for too long to know how much

451
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,719
Speaker 5: smoke is blown, to know how much these schools promise players,

452
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 5: they don't actually get what they're promising, and it's a

453
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 5: lot lower number some of the data. When when I

454
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 5: can find this to share, which I don't have to

455
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 5: my fingertips right now, you'll be like, oh, okay. It's

456
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 5: one of the biggest frustrating parts about all this is

457
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 5: everyone hypes up what kids are getting paid. And don't

458
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 5: get me wrong, the top one percent are being paid handsomely,

459
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 5: but there is ninety nine percent that are not, and

460
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 5: it's actually greater than that. It's probably like point zero

461
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 5: three percent are actually being paid these gaudy numbers. The

462
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 5: rest not as much as not as much as being reported.

463
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 5: So it's It's interesting to me because you hear coaches

464
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 5: go back and forth about how much they spend and

465
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 5: how much they're someone else is spending. Just create transparency, like,

466
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 5: just create transparency and then the reality is too now

467
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 5: we know like based on what they have to share

468
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 5: because the house ncaa settlement. Well, you you have that

469
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 5: allotment of money, like that alligment's there for you, so

470
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 5: you can't cry poor like you've got that money. Is

471
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 5: that you're spending on your football program and how your

472
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 5: university decides to spend it's on them. But you know

473
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 5: that's for you to argue with your athletic director or

474
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 5: you know, your board, the powers that be, the border regions.

475
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 5: I would just say this though, you shouldn't believe everything

476
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 5: you hear now just already have deeper pockets in Oklahoma

477
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 5: State of course, without a doubt. And Dan Lenning brings

478
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 5: up a good point, where is that if this is

479
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 5: the world of college football that we're living in, yeah,

480
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 5: you better be invested in winning. It's a great line.

481
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 5: It's an amazing line because like Ohio State last year,

482
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 5: like Michigan the year before that, you know, one of

483
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 5: the biggest things they're trying to do is retain players

484
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 5: that could go to the NFL, their NFL caliber players,

485
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 5: but with another year they might improve their draft stock.

486
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 5: Maybe they won't, but what you're seeing is those players

487
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 5: are more valued at the college level than they are

488
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 5: at the pro level. Like Will Howard, was it what

489
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 5: a six round draft pick? I think the Pittsburgh this year?

490
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 3: Jonas?

491
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, he made over a million dollars last year as

492
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 5: being the starting quarterback at Ohio State. He will make

493
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 5: less money going in to be a Pittsburgh Steelers, an

494
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 5: NFL quarterback than he made last year at Ohio State.

495
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 5: It's pretty great. There's a movement right now by the

496
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 5: way of a thought. I don't know why, but that

497
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 5: they were just going to say everyone gets five years

498
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 5: of eligibility, like forget redshirts, just to have five years

499
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 5: of eligibility, just completely changing the eligibility rules.

500
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 3: It makes sense to me.

501
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 5: Well, here's where it doesn't make sense is this was

502
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 5: all tied back to basically your education. You had four

503
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 5: years you're getting it takes you four years to get

504
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,239
Speaker 5: your degree. You should take four years. Most of these

505
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 5: kids do summer school. Some even come in with credits.

506
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 5: Nowadays from high school. So some are able to graduate

507
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 5: in three years because they've almost got a year of

508
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 5: college before they even get there. So to me, here's

509
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 5: the problem with the five years of eligibility. It kind

510
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 5: of begs the question of like, well, then why stop there?

511
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 5: Why not six? Why not seven? Why not make it infinite?

512
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 5: Like why is is there any stopping point that if

513
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 5: that's the case, And the point is because it was

514
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 5: never meant to be the stopping point for you in

515
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 5: your career, like your pursuits, the education, the degree. Yes,

516
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 5: football at that at that level, but it's eventually to

517
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 5: then play in the NFL. If you're just straight making

518
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 5: this a professional sport. Now, well now you're in competition

519
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 5: with the NFL, and now you've got to kind of

520
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 5: rethink a lot of things and how this whole thing

521
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 5: is structured. So when people say, well, yeah, they should

522
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 5: just have you know, five years, five years of playing,

523
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 5: it's like no, Like, I don't think an eighteen year

524
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 5: old kid should be going up against guys who are

525
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 5: that much older. Like I'm sorry, Like I'm still a believer.

526
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 5: There's seventeen year old kids. Ryan Wims last year, Malachi

527
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 5: Toni this year from Miami. The wide receivers had a

528
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 5: great game. He's seventeen. You really want to going up

529
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 5: against twenty three, twenty four year old guys.

530
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 3: But that's always been a vailable.

531
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 5: It hasn't always been.

532
00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 3: It hasn't.

533
00:26:58,920 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 5: That's the way it.

534
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: Has come in and play like, dudes, come, can you.

535
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 5: Know how rare it is? Because outside of if you're

536
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 5: in the Mormon faith and you do missions or you

537
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 5: go off and do whatever and come.

538
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: Back from a baseball yeah, play is like sure.

539
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 5: Every everyone's got one. Everyone's got one, everyone's known of

540
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 5: a guy that's point zero two percent. Like, if you

541
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 5: make policy or you make decisions based on the point

542
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 5: zero one percent, you're making bad decisions then because it

543
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 5: doesn't impact or impacts everyone else who doesn't fall into that.

544
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 5: So I would sit there and say, like, there's given

545
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 5: four years. If they want a red shirt, great, but

546
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 5: at some point you got to move on. Man, This

547
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 5: isn't This isn't the end point of your professional sports career.

548
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 5: If you're good enough, you play in the NFL. If

549
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 5: you're not, you don't you move on. So I know

550
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 5: we got off on a tangent there. I just I

551
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 5: look at it and just go. At some point, this

552
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 5: sport has to realize that it's either trying to be

553
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 5: like the NFL and we're moving in that direction, or

554
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 5: you're not, but you got there's gotta be a dividing line.

555
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 5: It's point because everything keeps inching closer and close and

556
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 5: closer to basically a league that's gonna compete with the

557
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 5: NFL at some point.

558
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: I think the percentage obviously a small making it into

559
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: the NFL. So while people may have that as a

560
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: hope and a dream as their final destination, that's not

561
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: that's not a large percentage. So I feel like if

562
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: you're making a decision based on what you're doing in

563
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: college and it isn't based off of making it into

564
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: the league, I mean, if we're if we're doing it

565
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: based off of guys getting drafted or trying to keep

566
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: them in for their you know, their last year of school,

567
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: but they're pro guys, that that's a that's also a

568
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: small percentage of people.

569
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 5: Right And by the way, and I would argue this,

570
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 5: one of my issues with that is those those players

571
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 5: are being paid a premium at this level because they're

572
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 5: valued at this level, like for example, Ohio State instead

573
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 5: of going with Joy and saying last year, who obviously

574
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 5: have started this year a red shirt freshman, you know,

575
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 5: or Notre Dame for that matter. Both teams have played

576
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 5: in the National Championship in Miami. Well, yeah, I mean

577
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 5: supposed to go to the pros. Beck, Yeah, Beck this

578
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 5: year and cam Ward last year. Whoever you want to

579
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 5: point to, you know, those guys and Camboard is different

580
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 5: because Camboard went through and elevated his draft stock, right,

581
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 5: he became the number one overall pick, and Ben Beck's

582
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 5: probably looking to elevate it. But the point I'm trying

583
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 5: to make is instead of going with guys who would

584
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 5: have been true freshmen like Joy and San or a CJ. Carr,

585
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 5: they went with older guys. They went with Riley Lennon.

586
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 5: They went with Will Howard, both guys who both, mind you,

587
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 5: I think they both got drafted in sixth round. Right,

588
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 5: So guys who are literally made more last year in college,

589
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 5: then they'll make in the NFL because they were valued

590
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 5: more at that level. But then they go up to

591
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 5: that level. It's an entirely different conversations. So my general

592
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 5: point is, like you're paying a premium for something where

593
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 5: like back in the old days, like if you were

594
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 5: good enough you left after three years, you're left after

595
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 5: four maybe you had a red tree still left. Like nowadays,

596
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 5: we're like overpaying for guys who the NFL is looking

597
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 5: at and being like, yeah, maybe they'll be able to

598
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 5: be a starter one day or a backup. It's just

599
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 5: a wild conversation to have, especially when you talk to

600
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 5: you talked about like all the things you need to

601
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 5: do to get a kid who come to your school.

602
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, and may not even be a guy

603
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 5: who's like an NFL caliber guy.

604
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: I mean, look at your door.

605
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: How much was he making last year versus what he

606
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 1: makes this year salary wise, you know that's a downgrade.

607
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: I mean he's still making it off the field, but

608
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: he was making it off the field and the lead.

609
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: I bet you if he could have stayed another year

610
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: at Colorado, you would have stayed.

611
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 4: You imagine you guys back when you were playing, if

612
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 4: somebody pulled you aside and said, hey, by the way,

613
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 4: if you go to the NFL, you gotta take a

614
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 4: pay cut.

615
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: That whole day, it's just wild. It would be a

616
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: nice position to be in.

617
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 5: I say that, but I was making like seven to

618
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 5: fifty an hour at the Office of News and Information

619
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 5: in the CANNEP Center. Yeah, scrounged together change for like pizza.

620
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, a lot of a Psalm's basement.

621
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I remember those moments.

622
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: That's just it's interesting because I'm a brander, I'm a

623
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: chronic serial brander, and I would have had everything I'm

624
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: doing now, I would have had that going back then.

625
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: Just give me a dollar off of all of the

626
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: jerseys you sold during that time. Give me a dollar

627
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: off of all the merch you sold during the time

628
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: I was in school.

629
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 5: I mean, someone's eventually going to sue someone to try

630
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 5: to create the precedent. I mean, Reggie obviously tried to

631
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 5: go back, even though statue of limitations already passed. But

632
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 5: he tried to go back with that.

633
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: I don't know imagine how much.

634
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: And I mean for me, here's what's crazy for me,

635
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: because Joe made it the tradition that you don't have

636
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: your names on the back. I don't really have a

637
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: case anyway, because you could say, oh, well, it's not

638
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: about you, it's about this one, or it's about that one,

639
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: or it's about that one. Like there's no names on

640
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: the back. We don't have names either, But I think

641
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: i'd have a decent case. You think so, I mean,

642
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: how many other tens? I mean if you got a

643
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: decent case, then I'm winning.

644
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 4: Matt Leveka.

645
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 3: You can't get a little love here.

646
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 5: I just like all you'd have to do is you'd

647
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 5: have to go back and say, Okay, how many of

648
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 5: this number of jerseys, like this specific number did you

649
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 5: sell before this date? And then how many did you

650
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 5: stell during this period? And then how many did you

651
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 5: sell after?

652
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: Huh wow? A receiver warm out? It wasn't a two

653
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: waight number, and a receiver was where my number when

654
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: I came it?

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Speaker 2: It?

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Speaker 8: Now?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I do very well, So I'm cool. But it would

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Speaker 1: be an interesting conversation though. In case study, when.

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Speaker 4: You hear Mike Gundy, you know, explain how much Oregon

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Speaker 4: pays and how much Oklahoma state.

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Speaker 5: That's a showd Landing gave the whole quote. You gave

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Speaker 5: the whole quote, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just how much of that was Mike Gundy

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Speaker 4: taking a shot at Dan Lanning in Oregon and how

666
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Speaker 4: much of that was him saying it out loud to

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Speaker 4: his own people, like, Hey, we got to step our game.

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Speaker 3: That's frustration.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's frustration, man, Like why wouldn't you want a

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Speaker 1: big university to invest more into the Like you say

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Speaker 1: you want the benefits, you want to reap the benefits

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Speaker 1: of what comes with having elite football. Elite football out

673
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: of school drives the school, drives, the town, drives everything

674
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Speaker 1: you say you want it, but when it comes down

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Speaker 1: to it, you do things that would actually contradict what

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Speaker 1: it is that you're saying you want, Like.

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Speaker 4: If roles were reversed, And by the way, hasn't Oklahoma

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Speaker 4: State tried some stuff like haven't they had ideas about

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Speaker 4: like didn't they have the bar code on the back

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Speaker 4: of the player helmet or something like that where you

681
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Speaker 4: could donate to the to the player's nil fund or

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Speaker 4: something like.

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Speaker 3: There was a QR code idea they had that.

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Speaker 4: I think the somebody squashed the NCAA got involved in

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Speaker 4: squash it or whatnot. So they've tried to come up

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Speaker 4: with some but it just I wonder if more of

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Speaker 4: that is Mike going to being like, hey, can we

688
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Speaker 4: can we step up our game here? Because yeah, Dan

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Speaker 4: Lanning like they spend a lot of money, so what

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Speaker 4: what are they supposed to do, not spend it so

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Speaker 4: they could be on an even playing field with everybody else.

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Speaker 4: If you're trying to play it and compete at that level,

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Speaker 4: I just I don't know that it's necessarily a shot

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Speaker 4: at organ.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's trying to win.

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Speaker 1: Some programs and schools understand that they got to put

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Speaker 1: in that pain for it to be more of a realistic,

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Speaker 1: more realistic goal to win it all. Some teams are

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Speaker 1: trying to win, some programs are trying to win. Some

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Speaker 1: programs are trying to win it all. And I think

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Speaker 1: that comes down to the leadership from the the athletic

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Speaker 1: director to the president of the school and then everybody

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Speaker 1: else after that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I do have some numbers for By the way,

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Speaker 5: what you got According to Open Doors, which conference do

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Speaker 5: you believe spent the most or highest percentage of their

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Speaker 5: budget on quarterbacks?

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Speaker 3: On quarterbacks on quarterbacks? BacT twelve.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Jonas. I'm going stay with the Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: I think the Big ten everything these days.

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Speaker 5: I say Big ten created drum roll plays, drum roll

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Speaker 5: please as it's coming.

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Speaker 8: It's coming.

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Speaker 4: Oh no a time, I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know it's thanks Lona.

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Speaker 5: The Big ten spent the least amount on their quarterbacks

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00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 5: in comparison to the other Power of four conferences. In fact,

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Speaker 5: the Big twelve spent twenty three percent little over twenty

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Speaker 5: three percent of their rev share on quarterbacks. The Big

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Speaker 5: Ten spent fourteen point four what to CC do fifteen,

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Speaker 5: So actually the ACC spends more on the quarterbacks than

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Speaker 5: the Big Ten as well. There's just some other interesting notes.

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Speaker 5: Almost every single conference spends more money on offense than defense.

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Speaker 5: The most glaring difference is the ACC. They spend seventy

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Speaker 5: percent more on offense than defense. Big ten sixty two

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Speaker 5: to thirty eight split. The SEC is only fifty seven

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Speaker 5: to forty three, so much more. Even the SEC spends

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Speaker 5: the most on the D line, which would make some sense.

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Speaker 5: And in fact, if you look at the SEC spending

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Speaker 5: in general, just in the trenches outside of the ACC,

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Speaker 5: the SEC is the second highest as far as spending

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Speaker 5: an offensive line defensive line, so.

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Speaker 3: They value that maybe more so than the quarterback spot.

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Speaker 5: Or Leave's really trying to get me to get off

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Speaker 5: this subject, but I think I find it kind of interesting.

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Speaker 5: High watermark, by the way, for quarterbacks three million, the

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Speaker 5: bridge four hundred and six thousand, all right, that's still

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Speaker 5: a lot, you know, don't get me wrong, guys, all

739
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Speaker 5: of this is a lot of money, but it's not

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Speaker 5: what everyone is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 5: It's not what coaches are saying, people reporting.

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Speaker 3: All this stuff.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's it's it's just I'm just telling you

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Speaker 5: the numbers and what people will throw out there and

746
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Speaker 5: say are a long departure from what's in reality.

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00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I know this.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if they ever wanted to try an Olympic

749
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Speaker 4: or a Paralympic sport, they had a try fencing. It's fast,

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Speaker 4: it's safe, it's easy to start. Find a beginner class

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Speaker 4: near you at USA Fencing dot org slash try fencing.

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Speaker 4: That USA fencing dot org slash try Fencing coming up next. Here,

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Speaker 4: we are going to hand down an award. In fact,

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Speaker 4: we're going to hand out three of them. It's the good,

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Speaker 4: the bad, and the ugly right here on.

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Speaker 2: Fs are be sure to catch live editions of Two

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Speaker 2: Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington,

758
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.

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Speaker 3: It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here

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Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: LaVar, Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming

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Speaker 4: off top of X. Now we're a little over ten

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Speaker 4: minutes from now, we're gonna catch up with the old

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Speaker 4: p Petros papadakas he will be yours here on FSR.

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Speaker 4: Right now, though, it is time for a little something

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Speaker 4: we do every single week, and it's called this.

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Speaker 2: There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,

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Speaker 2: and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,

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Speaker 2: bad and ugly, all right, lead to lap who's got what?

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Speaker 2: As we do each and every week, we start with

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Speaker 2: the good, and you know it's good because we got

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Speaker 2: Brady delivering those goods.

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Speaker 5: All football's back, man, it's easy. We got the NFL

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Speaker 5: starting tomorrow night. We got college football kicking off Week zero,

775
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 5: Week one, great matchups, the three the top top ten

776
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 5: matchups were awesome to watch, the atmospheres were awesome. And

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00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 5: then tomorrow night kicks off the NFL season Dallas Philly.

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00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 5: Cannot wait. It's the greatest time of here.

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Speaker 3: Can't have good without the bad, LeVar. What was bad

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Speaker 3: this week?

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Speaker 1: The timing of losing Micah Parsons, of course, and for

782
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys going into a game that they might

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00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: have not even won with Micah on the team. It's

784
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: bad for the Dallas Cowboys. This week's bad for me

785
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys. And from bad to words, Jonas,

786
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: what was ugly? You're beasting?

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00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 4: Lee's got a beasting on his arm that looks like, uh,

788
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 4: a pterodactyl just injected him.

789
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 3: Was syphless and.

790
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 4: It's hot to the touch.

791
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 3: It was tulling up. Yeah, touched yesterday.

792
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 6: His arm.

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00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 4: It was swelling up his arm from his wrist to

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00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 4: his elbow. They discussed it feels a little good after

795
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 4: a good night's sleep.

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00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that. So you didn't go get it

797
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: checked out, of course you did. Just just some sleep.

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00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: Did it good? Some sleep? Did it good? You You're

799
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: gonna stay sweet. Know sometimes sleep is the best medicine.

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00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: Yes it is.

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Speaker 1: And not using pot uh potty covers. We go to

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Speaker 1: the restroom in public jobs. Lee, you are a disgusting dude.

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Speaker 1: Bro