1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody. Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: off right now. We've got some breaking news. Are rate cuts, Clay, 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: stock market, Clay is fired up right now. We've got 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: to go to the charts. We got to go to 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: the numbers. Buy sell, buy sell Clay. 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: What's going on here? 7 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, the rates have been cut by 8 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 3: a twenty five basis point, so a quarter point cut, 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 3: the first in nine months, the first sense right before 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 3: the election when they tried to juice numbers for Kamala 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: Harris and Joe Biden. But significantly two more rate cuts 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: a total of fifty basis points expected, which would be 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: nearly a full point overall in interest rates coming down. 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: And some of you out there say, okay, why is 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 3: this significant? Stock market, by the way, setting another new 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: all time high on this news, Borrowing costs just get 17 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: way cheaper. So if, for instance, you are out there 18 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: and you're sitting on a thirty or more or a 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 3: fifteen year mortgage, or you have been contemplating going into 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 3: the housing market, you are going to get nearly, according 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: to the Fed's forecast, a full point decline in interest 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 3: rates between now and the end of the year. That 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 3: makes all houses way more affordable. It would suggest that 24 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 3: mortgage rates, which I believe are sitting on a thirty 25 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: year and I don't have this open in front of 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 3: me right now, but around six point two percent and 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 3: the fifteen that's a thirty year and the fifteen year 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: of five point six percent or theirabouts. I'll pull them 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: up and give you the absolute latest numbers here in 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: a sec but that they would come down in theory 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: if they moved in conjunction with these rate cuts that 32 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: you're talking about, around three quarters of a point of 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: interest rates coming off before the end of the year. 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: It would set up the possibility of refis, which is 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: significant out there for those of you who got seven 36 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: and a half or eight percent interest because you had 37 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: to buy at a certain time. It might also as 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: you start to come back down closer to five percent 39 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: for some of these fifteen and thirty year rates. 40 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 4: Buck. 41 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: It may also persuade some people. Let's say you're sitting 42 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: on a three percent interest rate three to five some 43 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: of you out there might say, Okay, it's time to 44 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 3: sell a home. We need a bigger house, we need 45 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: a smaller house. Kids have gone off to college, we've 46 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 3: had new kids. We want to move into a new 47 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: school district. The housing market has been largely frozen. This 48 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 3: is going to start to unfreeze it as these rate 49 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: cuts come back in to reverse the rate spikes that 50 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: were necessary because of Joe Biden's runaway inflation. So this 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: is a very good thing. Stock market, as we are 52 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 3: reacting and sitting here, is up substantially. The market was 53 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: happy with the guidance going forward, and all stocks are 54 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: setting new all time high. So in your four oh 55 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 3: one k, all these things, the general consensus and trajectory 56 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 3: is in a post positive direction. 57 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: We told everybody from the beginning the Trump economy was 58 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: going to be in fuego. Yes, And even when there 59 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: was that moment because of tariffs where there was a little, 60 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: a little blip, a little bit of panic, we were saying, 61 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: and I give full credit to Clay because he's more 62 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: uh more vociferous about this, but he was saying buy 63 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: the dip essentially, or hold yeah, don't don't sell, don't sell, 64 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: don't panic. And if you have it, very it's very straightforward. 65 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: If you have bet on the Trump economy, there's a 66 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: whole bunch of ways to do that. As an individual. 67 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: But if you have bet on the Trump economy, you 68 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: have been very nicely rewarded so far for that. And 69 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: doesn't that all Doesn't that all make sense? Of course 70 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: Trump was going to come in and do things that 71 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: move things in the right direction. Now I understand there's 72 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: still sensitivity to prices, and prices remain high for things 73 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: like not for gas comparatively, but for food, and obviously 74 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: mortgage rates. 75 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: Mortgage rates are. 76 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: Going to start to come down. That will be helpful refise. Remember, 77 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: more cash in your pocket at the end of the 78 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: month because you have the ability to refinance at a 79 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: lower rate means that you're more able to handle those 80 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: higher grocery store prices. And you know, there's a push 81 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: pull effect here. I mean, things that put more cash 82 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: into your pocket are going to be helpful with everywhere 83 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: else where there's been a pinch. So I think that's 84 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: that's all very very encouraging. But let's dive in if 85 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: we can here to you, and it's just one other note. 86 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: I think because there's such an expectation after Trump's first 87 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: term that the economy was going to be just really strong, 88 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: that Trump doesn't get if this were a Democrat president 89 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: with this market move over the last year. I don't 90 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: just mean today with the rate cut and what it's doing. 91 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: I mean over the last year, the first year of 92 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: a term, we'd be hearing all the time about what 93 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: a genius President Harris is in the economy. I mean, really, 94 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: if Kamala Harris was presiding over what we're seeing right now, Clay, 95 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: don't you think we'd be just constant Washington Post, New 96 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: York Time stories about how brilliant she is. I never 97 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: see that about Trump, of course. 98 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: I will just point out as soon as the stock 99 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: market turned, CNN and MSNBC stopped featuring it every day 100 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: Back in April, when the stock market was going down 101 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: and when you had the announcements about the tariffs every day, 102 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: at the bottom of the screen, they had exactly where 103 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: the stock market is. I'm telling you, right now, as 104 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: we are watching real time, all time highs in the 105 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 3: s and P five hundred had just hit, NASDAK just hit, 106 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: and the dal Jones all hit record highs. If that 107 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 3: were happening with Kamala Harris, it would be the major 108 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: banner that MSNBC was running all the time, that CNN 109 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: was running all the time and I understand people who say, well, 110 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 3: the stock market does not perfectly reflect what the overall 111 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 3: economy is a lot of truth to that, but usually 112 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 3: the stock market runs about six months ahead of where 113 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: the existing market is. 114 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 4: That's where it's trading. 115 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 3: So traders now are saying, hey, this economy is going 116 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 3: to be firing on all cylinders by the time we 117 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: get into the spring and the summer of next year, 118 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 3: and that is what they are, that's what. 119 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 4: They're working towards. So all this is very good news. 120 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 2: Now. 121 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: I think we'd alluded to this before. We might have 122 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: teed this up before, but I did want us to 123 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: talk about it a bit. So Jimmy Kimmel is on ABC. 124 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: He's the late night host there, and I find him 125 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: to be the most odious of those late night house 126 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: Ah Colbert, It is a toss up, but Colbert Show 127 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: got canceled, so at least there's some justice there, you 128 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: have to hear. Now, Kimmel still has well, I don't 129 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: know if he still has even a couple million people 130 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: that watch the show a million and change, I don't know. 131 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 4: Good question. I don't know what viewership is. 132 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: It's nowhere near. 133 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 4: What it used to be nowhere near Gutfeld. 134 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: Nowhere near gut Felt. So here's Jimmy Kimmel saying, well, 135 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: just listen to what he says. Played twenty, he hits 136 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: some new. 137 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 5: Lows over the weekend with the Magga Gang desperately trying 138 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 5: to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything 139 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 5: other than one of them and everything they can to 140 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 5: score political points from it. 141 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: That's it as one of them. That is despicable and 142 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: mentally stupid, false thing to say. And I don't know 143 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: what's worse. He's intelligent enough to recognize the falsehood and 144 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: he pedals it to his audience. Anyway, clay Or this 145 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: is somebody who people are told to laugh and clap 146 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: for as part of some corporate media entity, and he 147 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: is he is honestly operating with about an eighty five IQ. 148 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 4: This is where I think it's challenging. 149 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 3: There was a calculated attempt on the left to try 150 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: to make it appear that this person who killed Charlie 151 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: Kirk was of the right. 152 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: And so if you are someone who. 153 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: Follows leftist media New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBCCBS, 154 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: basically anything but Fox News, the Wall Street Journal of 155 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: the New York Post. Obviously this program you do not 156 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: get a full picture of what the news is. Now 157 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: we've played you audio from CNN and MSNBC. There is 158 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: an intentional desire to try to avoid recognizing what motivated 159 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: this attack, and I hope that in the wake of 160 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: the announced indictment, which makes that argument virtually impossible to 161 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: make any more. I just wonder how much of an 162 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: experience of the whole world you have, you and I 163 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: when you saw Charlie Kirk first, we were live on 164 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: the air last week, one week ago today, about this time, 165 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 3: I could see in your face something really bad happen. 166 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: I didn't know, because we're constantly on our phones, hitting refreshed, 167 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 3: making sure that we're on top of the latest news. 168 00:08:59,280 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 4: For all of you. 169 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: I knew something was bad. I didn't know what it was. 170 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 3: But you and I, off air immediately knew this is 171 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: someone killing Charlie Kirk because they hate him. Of course, 172 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 3: not complicated. You and I experience a wide variety of media. 173 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: I think we understand the full scope of arguments that 174 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: people in media might make. I don't think very many 175 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 3: people on the left do. I think they marinate in 176 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: blue sky. I think they're on Reddit forums. I don't 177 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 3: think they see the arguments that people like you and 178 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: me make. And this is one reason I wanted to 179 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 3: do the stephen A thing, because I think all the 180 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: time about how do we get better arguments. Charlie Kirk 181 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 3: certainly thought about this a lot. How do we get 182 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: arguments in front of persuadable voters, people who are willing 183 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 3: to change this? 184 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: Steve the stephen A discussion that happened showed that he 185 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: has some familiarity with, and even some agreement with right 186 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: wing arguments. 187 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: Yes, which is which is heartening. 188 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: It's encouraging because a lot of what you see are 189 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: people on the left who have you and I. I 190 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: could do this show as a leftist, and I kind 191 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: of want to, like, for April Fools one day and 192 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: just come on, although I think people wouldn't necessarily. 193 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 4: Rush, did this. 194 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: Producer Ali talked about back in the day we were 195 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: talking about this off air, he pretended to be a 196 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: big Bill Clinton supporter for what Ali like, twenty minutes 197 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 3: or was it. 198 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: A full hour? 199 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: She's gonna look up how long it went on. People 200 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: lost their mind. You guys, have to find out, you 201 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: know what, refresh my memory. Pull that clip for ris 202 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: if you can, and I want, I want to leave 203 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: you sit in and could Oh my gosh, Clay, I 204 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: could sit here with some big friend glasses and a 205 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: man bun and a perhaps futurist female T shirt and 206 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: some sandals with socks, and I could sit here and 207 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: talk about the patriarchy and white supremacy, and I could 208 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: make all of their arguments. In fact, you and I 209 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: could sit here in advance as long as we knew 210 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: the topic in advance of like a Anderson, Cooper or 211 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: Mattow or any of those names doing a show, and 212 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: we could say what their position is going to be 213 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: on all right. We knew they were going to do 214 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: both sides ism as soon as they finish, so we 215 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: have familiarity with the other side. One of the problems 216 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: that is so clear on the left, and by the way, 217 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: there's data that shows this as well. They have no 218 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: idea what we really think. They have no idea what 219 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: we really say, and we meeting Clay and me, but 220 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: also more broadly the right, they just don't get it. 221 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: And I think they deep down they don't want to 222 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: get it. They prefer to be lied to. And that's 223 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: what you see going on right now, and that's why 224 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: Kimmel told that lie. By the way, what you're telling 225 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: me is that Jimmy Kimmel is an incurious moron like that. 226 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: There's only two options here. He's an incurious moron or 227 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: he's just a vile propagandist. So I'll accept that he's 228 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: an incurious moron. But some of these things, the assassination 229 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: and assassination of Charlie Kirk, it's so clear what the 230 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: motivation was the second that had happened, because he's Charlie Kirk. 231 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: This reminds me of when we're all supposed to think 232 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: that the COVID virus appearing next to the Wuhan Institute 233 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: of Virology in China was a coincident where they were 234 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: playing around with COVID viruses. It's a big planet, everybody, 235 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: you know. The virus didn't appear suddenly in Mozambique or Bulgaria. 236 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: It appeared next to the facility where they were doing this. First, right, 237 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: we were to believe that was a coincidence. Now they're 238 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: gonna tell us that we can't tell what the motive 239 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: is with Charlie Kirk. Of course we know them, We 240 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: know the motive right away. This couldn't be any more clear. 241 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: This is not hard. But they would rather lie to 242 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: themselves and lie to each other than handle the reality, 243 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: which is that the Left has created a toxic political 244 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: ideology that has infected the mainstream of their party top down, 245 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: and they don't want to clean house. And I think 246 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: that this is, like I said, a clarifying moment for 247 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: the country about who stands for what And. 248 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: As long as they don't acknowledge this inside of their party, 249 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: the sad and scary and unfortunate reality is. 250 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 4: And that's what we've been saying for some time. 251 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: There's gonna be more Charlie Kirk's because these people think 252 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 3: they're heroes and they're not being shouted down. 253 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 4: Now we haven't seen this. 254 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: I don't interrupt you, but look at the Luigi situation. Yeah, 255 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: this guy just murdered guy. 256 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 6: Do you know what happened at United Healthcare? And response 257 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 6: to this, nothing except for a corporate. 258 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: Security needs went up. 259 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: They've got a CEO who's still running this business. And 260 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: this also goes to the babyishness, the cry babyishness of. 261 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: All these socialists and leftists play. 262 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 4: They're all, it. 263 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 6: Should be free, it should be free. Why isn't everything free? 264 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 6: Or why isn't someone else paying for my stuff? 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We 298 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: will monitor that and see if there is any more 299 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: discussion that we want to play from that. But I 300 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 3: teased Barack Obama has weighed in on the death of 301 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk. Neither Buck nor I, to my knowledge, have 302 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: heard exactly what he said. We had the audio pulled 303 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: for you. We will react to it here play it. 304 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 8: What happened to Charlie Kirk was horrific and a tragedy. 305 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 8: What happened, as you mentioned to the state legislators in Minnesota, 306 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 8: that is horrific. It is a tragedy, and there are 307 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 8: no ifs ands or butts about it. Obviously, I didn't 308 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 8: know Charlie Kirk. I've was generally aware of some of 309 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 8: his ideas. I think those ideas were wrong. But that 310 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 8: does but that doesn't negate the fact that what happened 311 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 8: was a tragedy and that I'm mourned for him and 312 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 8: his family. He's a young man with two small children 313 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 8: and a. 314 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 9: Wife who obviously and a huge number of friends and 315 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 9: supporters who cared about him, and so we have to 316 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 9: extend grace to people during their period of mourning. 317 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: And shot. 318 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: Uh, I mean, okay, ish the whole butt thing. We 319 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: don't we don't. You don't have to tell us. We 320 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: know you disagree with his ideas, Barack, we know you 321 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: don't have to say that. You can just and by 322 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: the way, I think that this needs to be more 323 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: of a like slap upside the head moment for Democrats 324 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: and much less of a like you know, okay, guys, 325 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: like can we just like try to be human for 326 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: one second a little bit you know it should be guys, 327 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: stop being crazy this. This guy just got shot in 328 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: front of everybody because of what he stood for. We 329 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: can go down this path in this country. So you know, 330 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: what do you give a Barack Obamas dave in here 331 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: see minus. 332 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think by the way we take 333 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: a cut. So I don't know what the full totality 334 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 3: of it was. 335 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 4: Maybe he had better. 336 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 3: Commentary, meaning more expansive, uh commentary saying hey, the first 337 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: Amendment is the thing that matters, and anybody he. 338 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: Doesn't have to say the I disagree. There's no reason 339 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: to say the eye disagree. 340 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: And everybody feels compelled to say I don't agree with 341 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: everything that he said. And I've always said this, you 342 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 3: shouldn't agree with everything that anybody says. What percentage of 343 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: the things that you say does your wife agree with? 344 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: I mean we agree on a lot, but well Laura agrees. 345 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: It's like, honestly, carry Lara agrees with me on uh, 346 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: not a lot of things. 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He's running Gavin Newsom 371 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: is calling on Democrats to do more outreach. Like Charlie Kirk, 372 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: we've known this all along. Gavin Newsom is in my view, 373 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: current standard bearer of the Republican Party with the most 374 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: serious claim to the Democrat leadership and therefore becoming the 375 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: next nominee for the Democrat Party. And I think that's 376 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: very likely be the case. I want to give credit 377 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: to who put this out on Twitter because he got 378 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: an Elon retweet, so it's now gone very Ben Scalen, 379 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: and I see from Ireland, I know this guy as 380 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: this is on X but I like to credit people 381 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: when I can for their thoughts. 382 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: Ben Scalen. 383 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: He is a senior yeh Irish journalist and commentator. He writes, 384 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: note there's not one prominent leftist anywhere in the West, 385 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: not just America doing what Charlie Kirk did, I e 386 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: issuing an open debate challenge to all comers and saying 387 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: here's my view. I invite you to try and prove 388 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: me wrong. None of them are willing to subject their 389 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: views to that scrutiny. That Clay is a critical point 390 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: and it's something that I think is overlooked here. It's 391 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: not just that Democrats don't, you know, accept that Charlie. 392 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: What Charlie Kirk was doing is the foundation of the 393 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: First Amendment and everything else. They are unwilling themselves because 394 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: I think a lot of them, the smarter ones, know 395 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: they will lose. Yes, they have a lose on women 396 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: can have penises, like they will lose on climate change 397 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: as an existential threat, like they will lose on these 398 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: issues that are like religious fervor issues for them. 399 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 3: That's why they don't have open public forums. And that's 400 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 3: why I was saying Gavin Newsom got exposed by Ron DeSantis. 401 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: The point of Charlie's events was that when you argue 402 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: leftist points, they look irrational compared to points on the right, 403 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 3: and the flip side would be true, which is why 404 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: I was saying, there is no left wing version of 405 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk, because to your point, Buck, it would be 406 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: somebody like you or me, a younger version of us, 407 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 3: twenty year old Clay or Buck walking up to a 408 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 3: mic and saying to left wing Charlie Kirk, how can 409 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: you say that it's fair for a grown man to 410 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: decide to identify as a woman and win a women's 411 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 3: sports championship, that you can argue that it is well, 412 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: they are real women. There is no biological impact, but 413 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 3: you end up. Remember when Neil deGrasse Tyson said that, 414 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 3: and we came on and we played that audio and 415 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 3: we said, this guy is supposed to be one of 416 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: the most brilliant scientists in the entire world. And he 417 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 3: went on because of left wing orthodoxy and said, do 418 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 3: we really know that men would be better athletes than women? 419 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, we do know that. 420 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: We do know, mister, we do know. 421 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 3: But he got ridiculed for that take. It was him 422 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: choosing politics and orthodoxy over science. And I think what 423 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: you would see if somebody had an open form from 424 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 3: the left wing perspective is it would absolutely ridicule those perspectives. 425 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 3: By the way, credit to jd Vance this week, we 426 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: told you we were monitoring the speech that he was giving. 427 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: He just said this, which echoes much of what we've 428 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 3: said for the last week. 429 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 4: Cut thirty eight. 430 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 7: And I would like to think that whether you're a 431 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 7: Democrat or a Republican, this basic idea of young people 432 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 7: gathering to discuss and debate, that is the thing that 433 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 7: we cannot let pass away. Just because the leader of 434 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 7: Turning Points USA was gunned down by an assassin, And 435 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 7: I want to let you know that, whether you're a 436 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 7: Democrat or a Republican, whatever your belief is, I will 437 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 7: fight for your right to speak your mind. We reject 438 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 7: political violence, and we reject the crazy left wing radicals 439 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 7: that gun down our friend Charlie Kirk. Let's talk to 440 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 7: one another and not try to shut each other down 441 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 7: for disagree. 442 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: Isn't it nice to have a vice president who is 443 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: incredibly eloquent, intelligent, and forceful on the issues and just 444 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: gets it, you know, honestly, it's it's something that I 445 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: think we almost take a little bit for granted right now. 446 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: But Jadesus JD is a political star in his own right. 447 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and a super smart guy to your point, and 448 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 3: off air, we were saying this, and increasingly I think 449 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: it's actually very likely. A part of me feels like 450 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: maybe sometime after the midterms, if things continue to go well, 451 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 3: that we're going to see JD Vance and Marco Rubio 452 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: announce a unity ticket. Hey, we don't need to spend 453 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 3: three hundred five hundred million dollars on a primary. Let's 454 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 3: put all of our resources behind this. Let's let the 455 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 3: Democrats fight, and let's go ahead and know who our 456 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 3: guys are going to be going forward. I'm not one 457 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 3: hundred percent sure it happens, but I think there's increasingly 458 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 3: a lot of momentum there when. 459 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: You think about the names that would also consider being 460 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: Republican contenders in the next election cycle, which is not 461 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: far away. Hey, everybody, this is the thing we have 462 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: to keep reminding ourselves. It's it's you know, in two years, 463 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about about who the who 464 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: the nominee will be on. 465 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 4: All that at fifteen months. 466 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: As soon as the midterms in next year o'clock nine, 467 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 3: everybody's going to start to announce that's right. 468 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: So it's going to come pretty quickly. And I would 469 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: just say everybody, though, who's in that conversation, I think 470 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: knows that they would also be welcome in a JD vance, 471 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio and I'm you know, however, they would do 472 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: that welcome in that administration. So I think all of 473 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: the big names know that there's there's a place for 474 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: them if that were to be the ticket. Look, we're 475 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: getting a little bit ahead of ourselves with that. But 476 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: back to what JD said there, here is my frustration, 477 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: Clay and I know that JD agrees with this, him 478 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: saying this is a good thing. It's the right thing 479 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: to say. Defending the right to say things without fear 480 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: of violence in this country as critical as essential. Our 481 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: team isn't the team that needs to hear it, you know, 482 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: this is this is the the issue. Our people will 483 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: say this all day long because that's how we think, 484 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: you know, and this is always across the board too. 485 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 2: We don't chase politics. And when I say we, I'm 486 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: talking to people. 487 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: On the right in any numbers with any support of 488 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: people who are ideologically aligned or ideologically similar. We don't 489 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: agree with lying down to block traffic. We don't agree 490 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: with yelling at people in front of their families or 491 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: just in general while they're trying to have a dinner, 492 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, yelling at politicians. You know, we don't agree with, 493 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: you know, throwing riots that burn down or destroy neighborhoods 494 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: or loot stores when we're unhappy. 495 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: Like you go down this list of things. This could 496 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 2: not be This could not be more clear. But mourning Joe, 497 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 2: your boy, mourning Joe. 498 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: Or as as as mister Mark Levin calls him, mourning Schmoe, 499 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: I think is quite apt, I must say, mourning, Joe 500 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: says this this has cut twenty six. Sorry I didn't 501 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: give you much advanced notice on this one, but there 502 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: we go. 503 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: He got it. 504 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 10: There is in the United States, the Vice President, Stephen Miller, 505 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 10: the Attorney General have been saying things that have been 506 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 10: extraordinarily divisive and as we said yesterday with the Vice President, 507 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 10: sadly just not true. When he says that most of 508 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 10: the violence comes from the left, I can say this 509 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 10: is somebody in the center. 510 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. 511 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 10: The Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank funded by the 512 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 10: Koch Brothers and run in part by people in association 513 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 10: with the Koch Brothers, put out studies showing the overwhelming 514 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 10: amount of political violence in America has in fact come 515 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 10: from the fore right. 516 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: This is delusional. 517 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: First of all, no one on the right takes the 518 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: Cato Institute seriously. I'm just going to say this right now. Okay, 519 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: there are a bunch of open borders loans and I 520 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: don't care what Cato has to say about anything. 521 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: You know. That's that's part one, that's just reality. 522 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: Part two is this just goes against everything that we see, 523 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: everything we know, and like I said, I've seen them 524 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: play this game before. Clay I was on CNN in 525 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: the error when we were having the San Bernardino terror attack, 526 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: the Pulse NY Club terror attack, the you know, you 527 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: go down the list of all these different the guy 528 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: who drove his car on the West Side Highway and 529 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: mod down a bunch, all these jih hottest terror attacks 530 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: happening over and over. 531 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 2: And over again. 532 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: And then they would put me on and they say, well, 533 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: look at this. You know that here's some data that 534 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: shows that there's more right wing terrorism than left wing terrorism. 535 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: And they would include things like someone saying something mean 536 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: to a minority on a subway car. Oh, it's like 537 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: right wing violence. I mean they it's just not reality. 538 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 3: Can you think of any I mean, I just for 539 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 3: all of you out there, I mean you had the crazy. 540 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: I think it's one billion percent. The guy in Minnesota 541 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 3: I read his manifesto. I mean, he's schizophrenic. 542 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: He's I mean, there's some strategic with the guy who 543 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: shot Gabby Giffords, who's just he is like the what's 544 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: the frequency Kenneth guy. 545 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: He's a psycho, a psycho. 546 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: That isn't latching on to a clear ideology with institutional 547 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: support from real edifices in our society. 548 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 3: I can't even think of one. Now they're gonna say, oh, 549 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 3: Gretchen Whitmer. First of all, nothing really happened there, and 550 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 3: it seems to be primarily an entrapped situation. But if 551 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: you just run through in recent history, obviously what happened 552 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 3: to Charlie, if you think about what happened in Minneapolis 553 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: at the school shooting, the trans shooter, if you think 554 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 3: about what happened in Nashville with the transshooter. Are there 555 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 3: lots of violent people in America? 556 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 4: Yes? Are they far too often violent? Yes? 557 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 3: But what political violence motivated by someone from the right. Now, 558 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what they did probably was they counted 559 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: every charge brought on January sixth. Hey, this trespassing charge, Hey, 560 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 3: this misdemeanor that was pled guilty to, and they rolled 561 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: all those together. But as you've pointed out, the only 562 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 3: person who died on that day was actually unarmed and 563 00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: shot and killed. Otherwise there was no actual substance. 564 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: Anchel killed in an actor, people that had a heart 565 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: attack a couple of days later, and things like that. 566 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 3: Actually, Babbitt, they try to say six cops died they 567 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 3: don't actually give you the details. 568 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: But I mean, here, here's an example. 569 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: I remember the first Trump administration there was this there 570 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: was this movement of lunatics. They chased Ted Cruz in 571 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: a restaurant in DC and they were screaming at him. 572 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: And to that restaurant's credit, actually they like were totally 573 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: had Ted's back and said you were welcome back here. 574 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 1: Those scumbags you know or not, will be There are 575 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: other times, though, where Sarah Huckabee Sanders, she was at 576 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: a restaurant in Virginia. I remember this and they and 577 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,239 Speaker 1: the restaurant owner was like, that's right, I'm with these 578 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: lunatics who were shouting at you, like sorry, you know 579 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: you stand in Virginia. 580 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah. 581 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: So did that happen under the Biden years when the 582 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: restaurants were open, because we you know COVID. 583 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: How about Maxine Water saying get in everybody's face, which 584 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: helped to motivate the fact that that was occurring. How 585 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 3: about Chuck Schumer saying be careful. Basically out in front 586 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 3: of the Supreme Court they tried to kill Brett Kavanaugh. 587 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 3: I know, everybody just pretends that didn't happen. This shooting 588 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 3: of Steve Scalice and others after the shooter said are 589 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 3: those Republicans or not? While they were preparing for the 590 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 3: softball To. 591 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: The point that was made by that Irish guy, this 592 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: is why they can't have these debates in public. If 593 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: Morning Joe tried to have this discussion on Morning Joe 594 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: with you or with me, they would be eviscerated on 595 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: their own show on TV. 596 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: They would get smoked. Okay, they would get smoked, and 597 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: they know it. 598 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: And so instead of saying, maybe our ideas are bad, 599 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: maybe our arguments are weak, they just retreat further into 600 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: an echo chamber where they create an audience that is 601 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: emotionally emotionally unstable and can only hear what they want 602 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: to hear because they cannot present them with the truth, 603 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: because then they'll go somewhere else, Right, it turns into 604 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: a competition for the lowest common denominator. They'll listen to 605 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: some other lunatic out there who will try to to 606 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: justify these things. And you'll notice also, and this is 607 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: true of the Charlie situation in really stark terms, but 608 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: you've seen this with a lot of other times too. 609 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: They'll say things like you know, Charlie was a white supremacist, 610 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: and you sit there, I mean and put us the 611 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: obvious things like Candice was one of his first you know, 612 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: stars within Turning Point, and they had a very close friendship. 613 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of things you could say right 614 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: away that would dismantle this. But okay, what's the racist 615 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: thing that Charlie Kirk said that we shouldn't have affirmative action, 616 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: that it demeans people who the Supreme Court agrees with that. 617 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: So so if now you're beyond the pale, if now 618 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: there are going to be people who justify violence against 619 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: you because you take positions that the United States Supreme 620 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: Court has ratified, where does that leave us, clay as 621 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: a society? Where are we? That's so the law of 622 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: the land, of the Supreme Court of the Constitution is 623 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: so radical to the left that you're allowed to be 624 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: a target. 625 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: I actually think that is where we are. 626 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: I think one of the real questions that's out there 627 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 3: in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination is Elon 628 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 3: Musk buying Twitter. Is that connected to the rise of 629 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: Turning Point where Charlie's video those were able to go 630 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 3: more viral TikTok. We've got a potential purchase that's taking 631 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 3: place by Oracle Larry Ellison. We've read for you the 632 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 3: apology basically that came from Comcast after the way they 633 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 3: covered the Charlie Kirk assassination. Are there enough people in 634 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 3: power that are now embarrassed by the arguments of the 635 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 3: left such that they start to get shouted down from 636 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 3: within their own corridors. That's the question I think that remains. 637 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: We'll take some of your calls. We'll take some of 638 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 3: your talkbacks to close out the Wednesday edition of the 639 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: program the next segment. 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We're gonna get 661 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: some of your talkbacks. But producer Ali with us here 662 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: in New York City. We have not seen this, but 663 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 3: she said she wanted to give us an uplifting end 664 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 3: to the show and she had. 665 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 4: Any email to read. Ali, the floor's yours. 666 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 11: All right, This is a VIP email from Allen. Hey, guys, 667 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 11: love the show and I've been listening ever since you 668 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 11: came on the air. I started listening to Rush in 669 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 11: my twenties and loved how he taught me how to 670 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 11: analyze and direct arguments. But one thing that I really 671 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 11: enjoy about you is you are closer to my generation, 672 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 11: and it's obvious you are really friends. You talk to 673 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 11: each other like me and my buddies. Do you laugh 674 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 11: with each other and at each other, and recently we 675 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 11: all cried together. When I'm listening, it's like I've got 676 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 11: a couple of my friends with me during the day 677 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 11: and it just makes my day better. 678 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Oh that's super nice, really kind. 679 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 4: Thank you for thank you Outwich, said Allan. Allan Allan 680 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 4: one of our VIPs. Thank you, good job. 681 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: Bring after the show, Clay and I don't storm off 682 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: into separate green rooms like I can't handle one more 683 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: day of this. And I will tell you there are 684 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: shows like that out there. I'm not going to name names, 685 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: but there are shows like that out there. 686 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: Debbie from Thank You, Ali, that was really really nice 687 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 3: and like I said, Alan, thank you as well. Debbie 688 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 3: from Denver. We were talking. We started off the show 689 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 3: reading through the text messages of the alleged Charlie Kirk assassin, 690 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 3: and Debbie from Denver wead in saying, were saying, Hey, 691 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 3: is this person these text? Is this text or a moron? 692 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 3: Or is this intentional to try to provide some sort 693 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 3: of alibi or clarity to protect others? Debbie from Denver said, 694 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 3: and I asked, why not just call on the phone. 695 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 4: Debbie has a theory. 696 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 12: Edd Hey, guys, the reason why he texts instead of 697 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 12: giving a phone call is because that age doesn't talk 698 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 12: to each other. All they do is text. If you 699 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 12: haven't ever noticed that, they can be sitting at the 700 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 12: same dinner table and they not talking to each other. 701 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 12: They're texting each other. I've seen it in restaurants. I've 702 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 12: seen it at people's houses. People don't talk to each other, 703 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 12: they just text. 704 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: I think it's very insightful. 705 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 3: I think she's I think she may be right that 706 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 3: he is just that's his preferred method of communication. 707 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 4: My point on that would just be. 708 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 2: The sensitivity of the topic, though, may change it to 709 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 2: you know. 710 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 3: I mean, it were so dumb if you committed a 711 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 3: murder and you text this is where I. 712 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 4: Hid the murder weapon. 713 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 3: It's so insanely dumb to me, I would think that 714 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 3: you would just recognize making a written record of your 715 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 3: crime is one of the dumbest things you could do. 716 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 3: I'm at least gonna call this person and have a 717 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 3: phone conversation with him. But maybe the technology and the kids, 718 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 3: although I will say my boys talk a lot on 719 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 3: FaceTime with their friends, so and they're younger than this guy. 720 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 3: But it's an interesting argument. I think it's worth playing, 721 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 3: which is why we did. I just still think it's 722 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 3: a sign of being an incredible moron to write. 723 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't add up that he cares about 724 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: what evidence he left behind, and then he wrote out 725 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: a detailed confession online that part unless he's incredibly stupid, 726 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: which we are not to believe that he is. So 727 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: there's something going onhing funky going on there, and we're 728 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 1: going to continue to chase this one down, and we're 729 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 1: going to do more show for you tomorrow. 730 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 2: Thanks for being here, everybody,