WEBVTT - Laurie Heaps Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, it's Danielle Fischl right or Strong and will Fredell.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know us best as Tapanga.

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<v Speaker 2>Sean and Eric from Boy Meets World.

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<v Speaker 1>And now Pod Meets World, the podcast where we've been

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<v Speaker 1>sitting down weekly to rewatch the show we starred in

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<v Speaker 1>as kids, and we've been unpacking well a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've been taking the show on the road with

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<v Speaker 3>the Kids Want to Jump Tour where every stop in

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<v Speaker 3>cities across the US has been totally different and pretty hilarious, if.

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<v Speaker 4>I do say so myself. But we know not everyone

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<v Speaker 4>can join us. So we're happy to announce that our

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<v Speaker 4>recent thirtieth anniversary of the show, Live from the met

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<v Speaker 4>in Philadelphia, will now be available to stream no matter

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<v Speaker 4>where you live.

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<v Speaker 1>Our biggest show yet in the hometown of the Matthews,

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<v Speaker 1>featuring appearances by Trina, Angela McGhee, Matthew Lawrence aka Jack Hunter,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Mister Turner Quinn, and Danny Harley McNulty, who makes

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<v Speaker 1>a very special surprise visit.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so much fun and now you can experience

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<v Speaker 3>it from the comfort of your own home.

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<v Speaker 4>It will be available on December eleventh at five pm Pacific.

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<v Speaker 5>December eleventh, your birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>Now writer, what's the earliest time you've ever had a drink.

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<v Speaker 4>In a day?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, on a day, I'm probably noon.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, You've never there's never been like a camping day

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<v Speaker 1>where you've woken up and been like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm going to have a little uh oh.

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<v Speaker 4>You know when I went backpacking as a teenager, we

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<v Speaker 4>would bring we brought whiskey, and and the older teenagers

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<v Speaker 4>that we were backpacking with when you woke up on

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<v Speaker 4>the second you we would be so sore, and they

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<v Speaker 4>would be like, we're all going to take a sip

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<v Speaker 4>of whiskey before we start backpacking.

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<v Speaker 5>It helps make you less.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think it was just an excuse for teenager

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<v Speaker 4>to drink. Of course, I just remember thinking like that's

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<v Speaker 4>the I took a sip and then I was like

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<v Speaker 4>I regretted it immediately because they're still to like like

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<v Speaker 4>miles with all this weight on your back, how about

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, when I used to go, I mean when

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<v Speaker 1>I used to drink, and when I used to golf

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<v Speaker 1>before I had children and lost all time to do

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. Uh, you know, I would have beer

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<v Speaker 1>on the golf course. So six am, oh gez six am.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we used to do.

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<v Speaker 4>I've had I've had a boozy brunch before, which would

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<v Speaker 4>probably be like eleven or whatever. You know, you have

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<v Speaker 4>like a bloody mary. Yeah, like in New York that

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<v Speaker 4>was like standard.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure, just got Also, brunch in New

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<v Speaker 1>York is a real loosey goosey term because I remember

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<v Speaker 1>thinking like brunch eleven am and then being like, bb,

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<v Speaker 1>so you have brunch at three pm.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, wait, hey, huh huh, hold.

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<v Speaker 4>On, that's just it's just all day, Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just yeah, it's pretty much all day.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you have a really good New York drunk story

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to hear because we talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>recently at the live show in New York, and we

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<v Speaker 1>loved it so much we turned it into a T shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>So you share it with all our dear listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>To my ever everlasting shame, we did, yes, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>very much. We Uh so, I drink, but not a

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<v Speaker 3>huge amount, and I can kind of I can count basically,

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<v Speaker 3>I can count basically on one hand the amount of

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<v Speaker 3>times in my life I've been like drunk, drunk.

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<v Speaker 5>Like really really like.

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<v Speaker 3>Inebriated, drunk to the point of slurring speech. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's not a normal thing for me. So you, Danielle,

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<v Speaker 3>introduced my wife and I to two of your oldest

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<v Speaker 3>friends in Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>Two of my best friends, Julie and Christie live there, live.

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<v Speaker 3>There, and you introduced Sue and I to them, and

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<v Speaker 3>we instantly stole them and made them our best friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, yeah, you literally said that to me, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just no longer your friends.

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<v Speaker 5>They are my best friend.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely. We did.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things we did is we took a

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<v Speaker 3>great picture at your house of the four of us

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<v Speaker 3>and Sue and I one Christmas. We had it blown

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<v Speaker 3>up to a full size blanket so it's like this

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<v Speaker 3>jet and we sent it to them so we were

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<v Speaker 3>like this, this is how you know that we're your

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<v Speaker 3>best friends is because you have seven foot tall pictures

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<v Speaker 3>of us that you can wrap yourself up.

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<v Speaker 4>In a blanket. So we were I was going.

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<v Speaker 3>To New York for I think it was a New

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<v Speaker 3>York Comic con, and I was going without two and

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<v Speaker 3>I got there a couple of days early, and of

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<v Speaker 3>course I called Julian Christie was out of town, yep,

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<v Speaker 3>And Julie was like, well, let's go out. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, great night in New York. Somebody who lives there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I hadn't been there, and I'd been there

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<v Speaker 3>time to time, but I hadn't spend any significant amount

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<v Speaker 3>of time there. And so we did what the kids

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<v Speaker 3>call a bar crawl, which, yes, it turns out, is

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<v Speaker 3>just going to a bunch of different places.

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<v Speaker 1>To drink, right, And they call it a crawl because

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<v Speaker 1>you get so drunk you're crawling.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently because I was not aware of this. We went

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<v Speaker 3>to one bar first. We were having a blast. It

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<v Speaker 3>was so much fun. This was after dinner, so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>had some food in my stomach. We had a couple

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<v Speaker 3>drinks at dinner, and then a couple drinks at this

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<v Speaker 3>first bar, and by the third or fourth bar, I

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<v Speaker 3>think we were playing darts.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't, I mean, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just it's it's it's hazy at best.

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<v Speaker 1>At that point, one of My favorite stories from that

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<v Speaker 1>night is that you said to Julie, Oh, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about how terrible you were at darts, and

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<v Speaker 1>you said, watch this, I'm gonna throw this dart without

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<v Speaker 1>even looking, and you looked right at her, and you

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<v Speaker 1>threw a dart and you hit the bull side and

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<v Speaker 1>the bullside.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a classic Wilford elt.

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<v Speaker 5>It seems like something.

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<v Speaker 4>We will always says, be like, watch this, watch this,

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<v Speaker 4>and he'll do something crazy and then not be able

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<v Speaker 4>to replicate it ever again. But he'll do like that

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<v Speaker 4>first shot, just the luckiest, most skillful for the first

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<v Speaker 4>time off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that is it's literally something we would have shot

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<v Speaker 1>for Eric Matthews on Boy Meets World, Like, it's for

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<v Speaker 1>sure something we would have done.

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<v Speaker 4>That's kind of the last memory I have of the evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so cut too, so it's optical.

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<v Speaker 3>Flip opt to morning in the hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>I wake up, cover your shot, Hotel.

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<v Speaker 3>New York, and there's we. We come across a middle

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<v Speaker 3>aged Wilfredell holding his head up in blankets covered ketu

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<v Speaker 3>in ketchup. I do not know how it's all down

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<v Speaker 3>the front of my shirt, which is still the shirt

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<v Speaker 3>I had on from the night before. I looked down

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<v Speaker 3>at the foot of my bed and because you probably

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<v Speaker 3>really enjoyed a good meal and you didn't even remember it,

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<v Speaker 3>So what's the boy? It was a burger, like a

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<v Speaker 3>tray of obviously, that's the thing is I must have

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<v Speaker 3>talked to somebody, because it was.

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<v Speaker 6>Delivered to my room right consation with somebody McDonald's. I'll

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<v Speaker 6>take whatever else.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the best part about knowing you so well.

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<v Speaker 1>You were probably the nicest and funniest, most charming.

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<v Speaker 4>Robably tipped that person his entire wall. He gave it

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<v Speaker 4>was probably like you probably need one hundred and fifty dollars,

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<v Speaker 4>just take it off, just take it all. Probably true,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're right rider.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably called down in order to whop her and

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, sir, this is.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a hotel.

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<v Speaker 4>Doing that was them. Somebody give me a walney. So

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<v Speaker 4>I was the boy. Did you know? My day's a president?

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<v Speaker 4>Star is really good?

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<v Speaker 3>So I am sitting there and I of course call

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<v Speaker 3>Sue and I'm like, oh, babe, oh, I'm hurting from

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<v Speaker 3>my head to toe. I can feel my pinky toes.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything hurts. I'm nauseous, I'm covered in ketchup. We talked

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<v Speaker 3>for about ten minutes and she's like, well, the pictures

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<v Speaker 3>you sent were hysterical, and I'm like, what pictures are.

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<v Speaker 4>You talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>And she starts laughing much as Danielle's and it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>are you kidding? Like no, she goes, go to your phone.

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<v Speaker 5>Go look at the picture.

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<v Speaker 4>I look at the pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>So apparently I called an uber to take me from

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<v Speaker 3>whatever bar I was at last, to take me to the.

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<v Speaker 5>Hotel, as you're supposed to do, as you're.

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<v Speaker 4>Supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And I guess I asked the driver to stop halfway

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<v Speaker 3>because I saw the Empire State Building.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a big moment, and you were thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>Sue and you were like, man, I wish Sue were

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<v Speaker 1>here to see the Empire State.

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<v Speaker 5>Building right, share it with her.

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<v Speaker 4>So I took a sa stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop, stop, And here is the glory is selfie selfie.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that the picture itself is blurried, much like

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<v Speaker 4>your vision.

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<v Speaker 5>Everything vision blurry.

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<v Speaker 1>The Empire State Building is okay, but here's the best part.

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<v Speaker 5>So Will sees in his camera phone.

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<v Speaker 1>He sees this picture and he goes, oh gosh, and

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<v Speaker 1>he scrolls to the next picture and that is the

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<v Speaker 1>one he decided was Bingo, that's the one to send

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<v Speaker 1>the ship.

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<v Speaker 5>It look no good. I look now, First.

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<v Speaker 4>Of all, I look like I'm hammered.

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<v Speaker 3>And second of all, I look like I'm sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look at my eye I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I look like I am a hundred years old.

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<v Speaker 3>So we of course showed this at our live show

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<v Speaker 3>in New York and.

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<v Speaker 2>Produce Oh my Gosh, producer.

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<v Speaker 3>Jensen Karr Posmand of this podcast kept just flashing it

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<v Speaker 3>up on the screen behind us like the entire show.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my Gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know a lot of very funny people.

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<v Speaker 1>No one's funnier than Will. But also no one has

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<v Speaker 1>as many images in their camera phone that can make

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<v Speaker 1>me cry laughing, Like I start crying, I'm laughing so

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<v Speaker 1>hard from multiple photos in his phone. Those two he

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<v Speaker 1>showed those to me. He told me this story on

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<v Speaker 1>the plane ones and I kept saying, let me see

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<v Speaker 1>it again. I need to see it again. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he has pictures where he's super jolly, so.

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<v Speaker 5>So happy, so happy.

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<v Speaker 1>His upper lip completely has disappeared from his face.

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<v Speaker 5>Like it got sucked up into his mouth.

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<v Speaker 4>That's when I was heavier.

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<v Speaker 3>I have pictures I keep in my phone of when

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<v Speaker 3>I am thirty forty fifty pounds heavier. Whenever I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to run or I want to do something bad,

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<v Speaker 3>I will look at these pictures and I look so

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<v Speaker 3>happy in some of them because I am because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>eating with you, or I want and I just don't care,

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<v Speaker 3>and my shirts are hanging on for dear life, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just so happy.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, we turn that.

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<v Speaker 4>Turn those photos into a shirt.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing that amazed me, though, have you been seeing

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<v Speaker 3>all the people that are replicating the photo?

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<v Speaker 1>So gosh, we have the best. We have the best

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<v Speaker 1>fans in the entire world. We've talked about this so

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<v Speaker 1>often off air, but my gosh, you guys are truly incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fans that come out to the live shows

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<v Speaker 1>and then hear us talk about whatever new story we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about, and then go out and in

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<v Speaker 1>their real lives act to actually find the moments or

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<v Speaker 1>recreate them. So that night of the New York Live Show,

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<v Speaker 1>immediately after leaving our live show, people went and recreated

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<v Speaker 1>that photo. Those photos of Will did themselves and then

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<v Speaker 1>tag to sin them. They're absolutely amazing. We've been reposting

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<v Speaker 1>them on the pod Mets World Instagram. But for anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who has ever had a Wilfredell stop the uber, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to take a picture in front of this Empire's

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<v Speaker 1>Empire state Building drunk night. We have commemorated the moment

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<v Speaker 1>in a T shirt and it's available.

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<v Speaker 4>It's because they were screaming merged people started yelling they

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<v Speaker 4>immediate the show and we were like, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 1>It is available now at Podmets worldshow dot com. We

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<v Speaker 1>also made a very special shirt for our Boston. Our

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<v Speaker 1>Boston show, we had some fantastic crowd.

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<v Speaker 4>Man that crowd. We were aggressive, awesome into it.

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<v Speaker 7>Falcon that was our fault though. It was our fault, yes,

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<v Speaker 7>go ahead right because we didn't get so the theater

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<v Speaker 7>had three levels.

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<v Speaker 4>It had a mezzanine and a balcony, but the balcony

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<v Speaker 4>had a row of really hot lights on it, so

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<v Speaker 4>when the show was started we couldn't see the We

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<v Speaker 4>literally didn't know there was a balcony. We only thought

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<v Speaker 4>there was a mezzanine and that that was the balcony

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<v Speaker 4>everybody was referring.

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<v Speaker 1>So we kept looking. We were like, we don't see

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<v Speaker 1>During the costume contest.

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<v Speaker 4>People kept saying, look at the balcony, but they were

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<v Speaker 4>just showering balcony. We're like, we are, We're looking Until

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<v Speaker 4>after the show. We didn't realize because then the two

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<v Speaker 4>people who won the costume contest came down from the

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<v Speaker 4>balcony basically because the audience forced us to bring them

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<v Speaker 4>down to the stage, and they were amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>It took them like a half hour to get down

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<v Speaker 2>to That was the funniest.

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<v Speaker 4>Part of this. They clearly won.

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<v Speaker 5>They never broke character all night.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, they were in those characters from the moment

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<v Speaker 1>they entered the theater until the time they left, which

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<v Speaker 1>is how the entire balcony was even aware that they

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<v Speaker 1>were there because they appear currently they.

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<v Speaker 5>Literally never broke character.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm telling you, you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Are the best fans in you You are the best.

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<v Speaker 1>The best, and this community that we have created and

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<v Speaker 1>the inside jokes that we share with you, and the

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<v Speaker 1>way you guys get into them, and how funny you

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<v Speaker 1>are and how smart you are. We are blown away

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<v Speaker 1>by you every single day. So just I'll start crying,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's not go too far.

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<v Speaker 5>We we love you anyway. Welcome to Pod Meets World.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm Daniel Fischl, I'm right or Strong, and I'm Wilfredee.

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<v Speaker 1>So so much has been said about Boy Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>and the show's fascination with hair. At times, it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like another star of the sitcom, from the signature middle

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<v Speaker 1>part to the day I cut mine for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time on camera. Some of the most memorable moments and

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<v Speaker 1>images from the show are act actually just the top

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<v Speaker 1>of our heads. And though my mom had a small

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<v Speaker 1>moment in time during season one as the guardian of

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<v Speaker 1>my nighttime braids, there was one person who was professionally

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<v Speaker 1>put in charge of our precious, long flowing moneymakers as

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<v Speaker 1>the key hairdresser, and that person was hairstylist Lori Heaps.

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<v Speaker 1>Laurie joined the show for the upcoming season four and

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<v Speaker 1>never looked back, so much so that to this day

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<v Speaker 1>she still cuts all three of our hair and numerous

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<v Speaker 1>other cast and crew members from Boy Meets World. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>she returned for Girl Meets World, adding a whole new

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<v Speaker 1>group of young thesbians to forever go to her when

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for a cut or color. In addition to

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<v Speaker 1>our little show, Laurie has also worked on Friends. According

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<v Speaker 1>to Jim George Lopez rules of engagement, disjointed, the recent

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<v Speaker 1>I Carly reboot, as well as my wedding and basically

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<v Speaker 1>every professional photo you see of me. She's the lifeline

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<v Speaker 1>for our locks and the reason I can't get a lob.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Pod meets World Hairstyle. Listen to the stars,

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<v Speaker 1>Lori heaps.

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<v Speaker 4>I should probably have done something with my hair before

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<v Speaker 4>she got here. Maybe I shouldn't have worn a winter

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<v Speaker 4>hat covering my hair the entire episode.

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<v Speaker 5>Guys, you didn't think about this at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Yikes, I'm cold, I'm lazy.

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<v Speaker 5>Get a heater.

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<v Speaker 8>There she is. I can't believe I'm doing this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, you don't love being on camera.

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<v Speaker 3>You look gorgeous, amazing, thank you, and I know you're nervous.

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<v Speaker 2>So why don't we just open with the song and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll go from there.

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<v Speaker 5>So go ahead and do the song and dance we

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<v Speaker 5>told you about you remember my biography, right? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, way to make her super uncomfortable. So I want

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<v Speaker 1>to start, Lorie. How many times have I come to

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<v Speaker 1>you and said, what if I just get a lob?

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<v Speaker 1>What if I just do a lob? Could you explain

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<v Speaker 1>to me and to all of our dear listeners, why

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<v Speaker 1>you're saving me from getting a lob?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I mean probably a hundred times. Many times have

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<v Speaker 8>you sent me a picture of like really really short hair?

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<v Speaker 5>So many times like what if we just do this?

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<v Speaker 1>And you always send me back a picture of me

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<v Speaker 1>basically with what I have now, and you go, what

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<v Speaker 1>if we do this.

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<v Speaker 8>Now? But you know, the first transformation was a big, big,

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<v Speaker 8>big big one when we really cut your hair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that was a big one. And what did you

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<v Speaker 1>going into that? Did you already know exactly what you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do? And how involved was Michael in figuring

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<v Speaker 1>out what Tapega's new hairstyle was going to be.

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<v Speaker 8>Michael not at all. But he's really really nervous, but

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<v Speaker 8>he didn't even He was just I trust you. Whatever

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<v Speaker 8>you're going to do, that's great you and Danielle decide.

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<v Speaker 8>He didn't have any say, Like when I first met

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<v Speaker 8>you and your mom like at the salon or something, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>and I said we got to cut this hair off

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<v Speaker 8>and the look of like shock of your mom and

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<v Speaker 8>you were like what do you what? Like this is

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<v Speaker 8>the hair you know? And I really wasn't sure if

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<v Speaker 8>you guys even liked me because I said that, but

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<v Speaker 8>I knew it's like you were ready for a change.

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<v Speaker 8>For the hell, yeah, had nothing to do with it.

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<v Speaker 8>It was like you and I basically there's of hair

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<v Speaker 8>that was way shorter than I wanted to go. You

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<v Speaker 8>were like chop it up to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I probably would have gone even shorter. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>actually go back to the beginning. So how did you

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<v Speaker 1>get the job on Boy Meets World? Tell us where

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<v Speaker 1>you were and what happened that you ended up on

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<v Speaker 1>our set.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah. I was a salon hairdresser in Beverly Hills. Michael

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<v Speaker 8>and his wife Patty were my clients and we became friends,

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<v Speaker 8>and he basically one day to said to me, I

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<v Speaker 8>don't love the way the hair looks right now. Would

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<v Speaker 8>you come and cut everybody's hair. You can't go on

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<v Speaker 8>set because you're not a union hairdresser, And then maybe

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<v Speaker 8>it'll look better if the person that's doing it is

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<v Speaker 8>doing your you know, your haircut, it will fix everything.

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<v Speaker 8>So they set up a stage and you guys came

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<v Speaker 8>in one by one and I cut everybody's hair. And

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<v Speaker 8>then Michael said, Ben's mom called and said, I don't

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<v Speaker 8>want anybody else touching his hair, and then we went

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<v Speaker 8>through all this red tape to pretty much get me

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<v Speaker 8>on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And so then what was that process like, because then

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you need to start like getting your hours in

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<v Speaker 1>order to join the union.

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<v Speaker 5>What was that process like for you?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I got Michael put me on another show that

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<v Speaker 8>he was doing, and I got almost all the hours

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<v Speaker 8>that I needed to be legal to work on a set,

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<v Speaker 8>and then that show got canceled. So then that's how

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<v Speaker 8>I went over to Boy Meets World. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 8>there were a lot of people that didn't want me

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<v Speaker 8>to come to Boy et Squirrel because that meant somebody

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<v Speaker 8>had to go, right, So they were, you know, all

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<v Speaker 8>a big family over there, and everybody was sort of

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<v Speaker 8>lying to Michael and saying we can't do this because

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<v Speaker 8>of this rule and that rule. And then Annie Mescalcoal,

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<v Speaker 8>the makeup artist, went to the union and found out

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<v Speaker 8>the rules, and then we walked into Michael's office and said,

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<v Speaker 8>here's how you do it, and he was He called

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<v Speaker 8>Karen McCain and told her to get it done right

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<v Speaker 8>in front of us, just screamed better, you know, in

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<v Speaker 8>his way. And the next week I was working on

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<v Speaker 8>the show. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So, in your opinion, how does hairstyling for the entertainment

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<v Speaker 1>industry differ from working in a salon? Like, what are

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<v Speaker 1>some of the key differences between being on a set

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<v Speaker 1>and being a hairdresser in a salon?

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<v Speaker 8>This is completely different, not in the way of what

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<v Speaker 8>you're going to do, because the styles are you know,

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<v Speaker 8>you cut, the hair, you coulor the hair you do whatever,

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<v Speaker 8>you're going to do the same way. It's just for TV.

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<v Speaker 8>You have to make sure it stays in place or

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<v Speaker 8>make sure that it's not creating a shadow right like that,

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<v Speaker 8>there's no flyaway. So that's that's the only difference. Really,

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<v Speaker 8>it's not that much different.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think it's.

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<v Speaker 8>Good at it because I had that salon experience, So

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<v Speaker 8>I just I knew how to do hair and cut

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<v Speaker 8>hair and so that part was pretty much easy for me.

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<v Speaker 8>And then you know, things like wigs and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 8>like I had to learn. I had no idea how

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<v Speaker 8>to put a wig on or how to style a wig.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you the one who who styled my wig for

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<v Speaker 1>the fifties episode?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah? Wow?

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<v Speaker 5>So you were you were in season.

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<v Speaker 4>Five because I remember Laurie doing my and.

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<v Speaker 5>So you did cool slick backed hair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I love that hair, hotty hot Hotterson, Ryder

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<v Speaker 1>over there, I was.

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<v Speaker 8>In your fifties thing that was so cute.

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<v Speaker 2>How much imput did we have in our hair? Were

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<v Speaker 2>we allowed to cut?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I remember there was times I was like I

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<v Speaker 3>want to do this, You'd be like no.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was, you know, just wondering.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean could because again, we were anything we.

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<v Speaker 4>Wanted to do. We've talked about this.

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<v Speaker 3>If I wanted to get a tattoo or we wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to cut our hair, we want you know, it had

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<v Speaker 3>to go up the chain. So how much were we

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<v Speaker 3>not even responsible? But how much input did we have

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<v Speaker 3>and how we were allowed to look on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, you guys like really didn't nobody cared like

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<v Speaker 8>you guys were like, oh, I'd loved it. Like Ryder

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<v Speaker 8>at one point was like I got to get rid

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<v Speaker 8>of this hair. I want to cut this hair off.

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<v Speaker 8>But you Roder was really the only one. Everybody else

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<v Speaker 8>was like, what are we doing? Okay? Great, Like nobody

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<v Speaker 8>really really had any I did. You guys trusted me

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<v Speaker 8>and whatever I said, let's get a little shorter or

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<v Speaker 8>let's leave it a little longer on top or whatever

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<v Speaker 8>I said. You guys would say, okay, great, like you

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<v Speaker 8>didn't look in the mirror. I'd say, how do you feel?

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<v Speaker 8>Is that like good? And you'd be like great, you

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<v Speaker 8>didn't even care, like you were not.

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<v Speaker 5>No, still that way, Yeah, we're still that way.

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<v Speaker 4>We're like, just do it, Just do whatever you gotta do,

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<v Speaker 4>Just do it.

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<v Speaker 8>I think the only one that was like really really

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<v Speaker 8>fussy about his hair and not in a bad way,

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<v Speaker 8>was then, Yeah, it's really like really looked and really

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<v Speaker 8>looked at every detail, and he wanted to know that

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<v Speaker 8>I was there on set watching him. You know, if

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't go in for a take, sometimes you can

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<v Speaker 8>come out and go with my hair, okay. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>he was the only one that was I was worried

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<v Speaker 8>about his hair. You guys were not like it didn't

0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:43.240
<v Speaker 8>it wasn't something that you cared about. You just trusted me.

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<v Speaker 8>It was so easy. You guys were so much like

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<v Speaker 8>you are today, and it's just like so fun and

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<v Speaker 8>so easy, and so we were just so connected. Immediately.

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<v Speaker 8>I was just sort of you know, it was my

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<v Speaker 8>first TV show really and it was just like you

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<v Speaker 8>want even like celebrities. To me, it was just like

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 8>you were automatically my friends, just like everyone was so

0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.919
<v Speaker 8>fun and so nice. It was so easy. It was

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<v Speaker 8>really I guess I was just surprised at what I

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<v Speaker 8>just talked about and how much you were trusting of

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<v Speaker 8>me immediately from day one, the day I met you,

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<v Speaker 8>that I cut everybody's hair.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember, you know what I remember is I remember

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<v Speaker 3>that as the show was progressing, the makeup and hair

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 3>room became a place where we would gather.

0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:36.639
<v Speaker 4>Some people outside of the industry realized how much makeup

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 4>and hair is the site because it's where everybody's getting

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:43.200
<v Speaker 4>together right before the show.

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<v Speaker 3>It's there we do all through the line through, line

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 3>through is all that kind of stuff was all in.

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<v Speaker 4>Them every set. Yeah, but especially on a sitcom sept

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 4>because that energy, that pre show energy all gathers in

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:56.440
<v Speaker 4>that space. Well.

0:23:56.480 --> 0:24:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Also, hairdressers and the makeup artists end up taking on

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:01.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of the role of what you think of as

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:04.640
<v Speaker 1>like the bartender, where they become the.

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 2>People therapist, yesists.

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Where like you tell that they know all your secrets,

0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>who we had crushes on, who we were talking to,

0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>things that were going on in our lives.

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<v Speaker 5>The gossip is.

0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Going on in there, so like it is, it is

0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 1>a hip happen in place.

0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 4>Why do you think Laurie is so nervous about being

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 4>on this show?

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 5>I can't say anything.

0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 3>She knows all, she knows.

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:29.359
<v Speaker 5>Where the bodies are buried.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like the first time Will fell love and and

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 8>and Rider with his breakups and girlfriends and yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Not even don't even go there, Laurie.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you explain what kind of your job was on Like,

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 1>let's go through a typical tape day.

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:51.400
<v Speaker 5>What your job was and did you do everyone's hair?

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<v Speaker 8>I did a lot. I did all of you and

0:24:55.840 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 8>that okay, right, So that's so typical on a TV

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:03.160
<v Speaker 8>show because that's too many people to do and keep

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:08.440
<v Speaker 8>track of. Michael wanted. So I did you guys and Ben,

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 8>and then I had two other people that did the

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:11.479
<v Speaker 8>rest of the cast.

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Right, So then you had supporting hairdressers who worked who

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:17.680
<v Speaker 1>worked under you, and they did other people.

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 8>Right, They did the rest of the people, They did

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:26.639
<v Speaker 8>the guest stars, Trina Maitland, all those people, right, and

0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 8>just you know, come into work and then they start

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 8>bringing you guys in one by one, and then you

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 8>know kind of get everybody ready, and then we'd start

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 8>taping on our on our pre tape day, and then

0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 8>there was a show night and show night. I remember

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 8>when I first got there, so I had done that

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:50.399
<v Speaker 8>one other show, no experience with TV at all, and

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 8>they were like, okay, let's go, let's come out for

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 8>cast intros. And it was the girls and the audience.

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 8>It was so the screaming for Will and Writerer was

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 8>I couldn't. I hadn't leave the stage. It was like

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 8>fels were there.

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>It was writer remembers, Oh yeah, right, you remember to

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<v Speaker 1>this day.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when the show progressed, they were I was up,

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 3>so I had the long hair.

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:23.200
<v Speaker 4>And then when we did.

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:27.160
<v Speaker 3>The The Weatherman episode, they called me aside and said

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 3>that a network note had come down that I had

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 3>to cut my hair.

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 4>And I was really bummed that I had to cut

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 4>all my hair off.

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 3>That was the week Jeff McCracken ended up cutting his

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 3>own hair off with scissors to make me feel better.

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 2>And it's such a McCracken thing.

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:45.879
<v Speaker 3>But then I grew it out again, and I remember

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 3>when you then took over for my long hair.

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 2>It took for forever, like you blew out.

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 3>My hair into you know, individual strands, and I was

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:57.200
<v Speaker 3>in the chair for like forty five minutes to paina.

0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:59.879
<v Speaker 8>I wasn't the only one with amazing hair like you

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 8>had this amazing bit perfect, luxurious hair. But it did

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 8>take me a long time that blow dry it and

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 8>get it straight well.

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 4>And then we started straightening my hair. Remember we started

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 4>using chemical straightener, did we? I forgot about it, Yes,

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 4>because every week because my hair now it's actually a

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 4>little straighter than it was back back then my hair

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:21.159
<v Speaker 4>was so wavy yea, that every week you would have

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:25.160
<v Speaker 4>to h flat iron it or blow dry it straight.

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.680
<v Speaker 8>Day the minute you like jumped around and got sweat exactly.

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right, so we so I think around like season six,

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 4>you guys started you started chemically straightening my hair.

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 8>That work. I can't remember.

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, we did it. We did it every couple

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 4>of months, Laurie.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember any styles or ideas you had that

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:44.920
<v Speaker 1>were rejected?

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:45.640
<v Speaker 9>No?

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 8>No, they never rejected anything. I just kind of did

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 8>stuff And I never remember getting any kind of note

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 8>or saying you can't do that.

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.679
<v Speaker 1>Because I do remember you had carte blanche and you

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 1>would try stuff. You'd say, let's do this, and then

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 1>we'd get out there on cameras sometimes and you go,

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it, I'm changing it, I'm taking it down,

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:06.159
<v Speaker 1>or I'm pulling this out. Like you had freedom to

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:08.719
<v Speaker 1>try things, and then you were usually the person who

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>would say that's that's not for me.

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:11.199
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to do that.

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Let's take that out, not somebody else, or usually it's

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>somebody else looking at a monitor going what is that.

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 5>I don't like that, Let's let's fix that.

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>So that's really nice that you know, Michael trusted you

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>so much that he brought you on and just said,

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 1>please work your magic and let you do it.

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 8>Yeah. He It was great working with him because he

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.159
<v Speaker 8>would he did trust me, and he would come to

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 8>me if he had like anything, like he thought, is

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.359
<v Speaker 8>that to you much? I would say no, no, it's.

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 9>Fine, he would.

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 8>The only time that but it heads with him was

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 8>on Girl Meets World, where he wanted their hair to

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 8>be bigger, bigger all the time, like right, make it fuller,

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 8>and I would fight him on that. But other than that,

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 8>it was just like no, it was whatever, whatever, whatever

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 8>he wanted to do, would just and you guys went

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 8>along with anything. I said too, it was just so easy.

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, in your intro, I named some of the shows

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>that you've worked for previously, and one of those shows

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>was Friends.

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 5>What was it like working on that show? And how

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 5>many episodes did you do?

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 8>I think I did like five or six episodes. The

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 8>guy I was working with on Mad About You was

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:22.719
<v Speaker 8>doing Friends, and he brought me in to do like

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 8>some guest stars. And then it was sort of like

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 8>gearing up for the Monica Chandler wedding, and so I

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 8>was doing Morgan Fairchild and Elliott Gould, you know, the

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 8>parents of Chandler. Cool sure, and then they they loved

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 8>me and they asked, can she come? We want you

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 8>to come back, and we want you to do our hair.

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 8>So he brought me back for all the pre wedding

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 8>and wedding episodes and stuff. It was really, really fun.

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 8>It was a sort of similar to Binet's world, where

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 8>everybody was friends and it was just a big party.

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 8>I remember on the very first day that I was

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 8>working there, they put me in my own little, small

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 8>hair room and then there was a big hair room

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 8>where the rest of the cast went. And Jonathan said

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 8>to me, he was the guy that I worked with.

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 8>Can you go get me some lunch and get yourself

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 8>some lunch and then come back in the big hair

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 8>room and we're going to eat lunch in there. So

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 8>I had all these, you know, my lunch and his

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 8>lunch in my hand. I'm struggling. I opened the door

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 8>and I get in there and the entire cast is

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 8>in there eating there lunch. And I thought, did I

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 8>walk into the wrong.

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 5>Room And You're like, oh sorry.

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 8>Oh my god, I'm so sorry, and they were like, no,

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 8>get in here, and I was like, well, jovans had

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 8>to come in here together, come and eat lunch with us,

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 8>Come and sit down. And I was like no, no, no,

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 8>I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. I put this down

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 8>here and I was trying to leave, and like Courtney

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 8>got up out of her chair and was like, you

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 8>sit down and have lunch with us right now. Like

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 8>they were so nice and so I didn't even know

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 8>who I was, Like that was the first time I

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 8>even met them. So it was a good experience. It

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 8>was really fun, all right.

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:03.239
<v Speaker 2>So I have a question for you.

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 3>You don't need to say any names, you don't need

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 3>to say what show.

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 4>You don't need to say anything like that.

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 3>But what's the strangest like hair request you've ever gotten

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 3>from somebody?

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 4>Was it me braiding my hair? You actually did it

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 4>in I went into Beverly Hills, into your salon, and

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 4>you braided my hair there. Do you remember that I

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 4>did it? I don't know if you did it, but

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 4>you courted, you had somebody in the salon do it

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 4>for me. I remember going like retrospect was like I

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 4>went all the way you wanted your hair like that?

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 8>Right?

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, every summer I would want in my hair. But

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 4>the first time I did it, I had told I

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 4>explained it to you, and you were like, okay, good.

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 4>I just love that you were amenable to like make

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 4>that happen, Like you brought me into the salon and

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 4>I had it all summer that it was so cute.

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 8>I forgot about that. I got so many things I could.

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 8>I'm forgetting about the strangest thing that happened to me

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 8>like this was I was I'm mad about you. And

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 8>Bruce Willis was a guest and he came in the

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 8>room all the hair and makeup people were, and he said,

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 8>who wants to cut my hair? And nobody answered, And

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 8>so I went I'll do it. And so I took

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 8>him in to do a haircut, and he kept saying

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 8>shorter on the side, shorter on the sides, and I

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 8>was going as short as I possibly could go, like

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 8>the hair could not get any shorter, and he went, no, no, shorter,

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 8>and he grabbed the clippers off of the station and

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 8>went just like this, and he just shaved oh in

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 8>the side of his head like a giant lying bald

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 8>inside on the side of his head. And you know,

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 8>I wasn't like upset because he did it. So I

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 8>was like, Okay, do you want me to match the

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 8>other side or do you want makeup to come in

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 8>here and put some makeup on that? What do you

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 8>want to do now? So the producers had to come

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 8>in and we were doing like a die hard kind

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 8>of thing where he was bloodied up in bandaged, so

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 8>they bandaged up his head and covered up.

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>He's, my gosh, I.

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Love it shaving your own head.

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 4>That's cool.

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Are there any products or tools that you swear by,

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Like what's in your must have kit?

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 8>My Dyson hair dryer the best?

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 3>Got one for Sue after you told me too, You're like,

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 3>you've got to get her one of these.

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 8>Yeah. I love the Dyson hair dryer, and I love

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 8>the Dyson the ones who are like at home that

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 8>you can use because air wrap the air rap.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any advice that you or something you've learned

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<v Speaker 1>throughout your career that you would share with aspiring hairstylists

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>who are looking to get into the entertainment industry, because

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<v Speaker 1>worth noting, this is a field AI can't really take over.

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<v Speaker 1>So any advice you'd share with aspiring hairdressers, you know,

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I always.

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<v Speaker 8>Tell people that asked me that, just to learn your

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<v Speaker 8>craft and assist to somebody. That's how I started. I

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<v Speaker 8>worked my way up assisting and just assisting and watching

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 8>people and learning and working for people that you respect

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 8>and just learning from them is the best way to

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<v Speaker 8>do it.

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Such good advice, So really quickly, I want to touch

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>on Girl Meets World, a show you you were also

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the key hairdresser on. What was it like returning to

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:28.879
<v Speaker 1>the show twenty years later and seeing a whole new

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>crop of little ones going through the same things we

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>went through in exactly and almost exactly the same setting.

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 8>It was so much fun, and you guys were there

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 8>to like guide them, but it was just so fun.

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 8>And they were also like, you guys, they just let

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:51.799
<v Speaker 8>me do whatever they whatever I wanted. Yeah, that was

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 8>the show where Michael did have like more to say.

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 8>You know, I had excite a little bit for what

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 8>I thought it should be. Like.

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>He loved the big still like the Topanga big curls

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>or the Carrie Russell big curls, and modern hair just

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 1>isn't isn't like that, And so Laurie was constantly trying

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 1>to keep the show modern and fresh, and the girls

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 1>were very much on Laurie's page. So Laurie and the

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 1>girls were always like, can we settle this down? Although

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Sabrina likes a big hair, Sabrina likes a Sabrina likes

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 1>big hair.

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<v Speaker 8>I just wanted to, you know, to do her job

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:31.959
<v Speaker 8>and please everybody. So if she knew Michael wanted big hair,

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 8>she was she would say, she asked like she would

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 8>want whatever whatever he wanted. You know, she didn't, she didn't.

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 8>She just wanted to, you know, make sure she's so professional,

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 8>just like, is everything the way everybody wants it?

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 5>Am I doing?

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 8>That's right? Is my hair big enough? You know? And

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 8>then we did a Halloween episode where I did crazy

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.879
<v Speaker 8>big hair on both of the girls with circus costumes.

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 8>Do you remember that?

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 8>What were their costumes?

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 5>They were? Wasn't it steampunk?

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 8>That's right? And their hair was really cute but really big.

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 8>I wish I had a picture of that. And Michael

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 8>came up to me at craft service and was like,

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:21.320
<v Speaker 8>I'm going to tell you something. Where their hair is today?

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 8>I want That's how I wanted to look.

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<v Speaker 2>The Halloween episode of course, Oh my god, I love

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 2>it well.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish we had done that with me with the

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 4>nineteen fifties hair. I should have just kept that for.

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 2>So Daniels would not have let you get away with

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 2>not dating.

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:45.760
<v Speaker 4>I was like, dance and slip back hair manses telling

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:48.719
<v Speaker 4>me crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>So we are.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to play a little picture game with you.

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>We pulled some pictures, so let's start. We're also going

0:36:57.520 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>to put all these pictures on Instagram so our dear

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>listener get to see them as well and know exactly

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about. Let's start with maybe the most

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:09.279
<v Speaker 1>memorable memorable day regarding hair on set. This is from

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Hair Today Goon Tomorrow, where I cut my hair. What

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>do you remember about this day?

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<v Speaker 8>You know, everybody was so nervous. Yeah, day, it was

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 8>so tense. You and I were not nervous.

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 5>I know, we're the.

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 8>Only ones that were not nervous. We were just like, everybody,

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 8>calm down, It's just going to be fine.

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 5>It's going to be fine.

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:34.400
<v Speaker 8>Who was pacing and pacing and pacing and coming up

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<v Speaker 8>to me, It's gonna be okay, Right, It's gonna be okay.

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 8>I think I punched him at one point. I can't,

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 8>You've got to stop doing this to me because I

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<v Speaker 8>didn't want to get nervous, Like in my head, I

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 8>was just like fearless, like this is going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you think you were getting a crew cut? You

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 2>cat like four inches off.

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<v Speaker 5>Nerve four inches. It was a full I think it

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<v Speaker 5>was a full foot.

0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Was it a foot?

0:37:58.120 --> 0:37:58.359
<v Speaker 6>Really?

0:37:58.440 --> 0:37:58.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.280
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it was definitely a full foot.

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>It was at least twelve inches, if not fourteen inches

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that we cut off. But yes, I remember there being

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:14.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stress, and Jeff McCracken was very stressed

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:16.959
<v Speaker 1>because Michael was very stressed, and so Michael was putting

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the pressure on Jeff McCracken. And we had you know,

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 1>we only had one opportunity to get the actual cut

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>across the hair right. And then my favorite thing is

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:28.319
<v Speaker 1>that Laurie had to do. So I took that one

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>chop at my hair that you see on the show,

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and then after that, when I walk up to the

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>hallway like mirror, you know, in the locker, my hair

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 1>had to be yeah, and my hair had to be

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 1>different layers, so Laurie had to go in and then

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>cut it multiple ways where it's like, you know, super choppy.

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:48.799
<v Speaker 1>And then that was on a Wednesday, and I went

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 1>home that night with that super choppy hair because the

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>next day, Thursday, we had more stuff we needed to

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>pre tape before the actual haircut, so I had I

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 1>remember going to Steiner with my parents after the episode

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 1>ended with super choppy hair, and that was really fun.

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:08.720
<v Speaker 1>And then I knew the next day, here it comes,

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get this amazing haircut. So yeah, what

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:17.280
<v Speaker 1>do you remember about coming up with this long layer's style, Laurie, I.

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<v Speaker 8>Just knew that that's what I wanted to do. Your

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 8>character was growing up and she wasn't a little girl anymore,

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 8>and I just I knew it. I just I just

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:28.799
<v Speaker 8>wanted to do it, like from like five days after

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:29.279
<v Speaker 8>I met you.

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<v Speaker 5>So much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, here is a picture of Will with a sportsball

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, this is basically kind of what he looks

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<v Speaker 1>like where we are right now in our show recap,

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>like middle to end of season three.

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 5>What is you like?

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:49.880
<v Speaker 1>What is how did you decide on this look? And

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:52.840
<v Speaker 1>what's your favorite Wilfredell haircut?

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<v Speaker 5>Look?

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<v Speaker 1>You can talk about just the specific like what you

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 1>would call this this style if you want know what

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I would call it.

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<v Speaker 8>I just remember when I met Well, there was a

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:05.319
<v Speaker 8>lot of like there was it was really heavy on top.

0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 8>I sort of had to like take a lot of

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 8>weight out and kind of thin it out so that

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 8>it opened up his face. It wasn't like hanging like,

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 8>you know, like covering his face for that look. I

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<v Speaker 8>love the long hair, the longer hair too on Will,

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 8>Like he isn't the picture that you're going to show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's another picture the next one. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>number three.

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<v Speaker 5>Will Ooh, look at that smolder.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the smolder.

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<v Speaker 8>Love that look too for Will.

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I liked I.

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<v Speaker 3>Like having the long hair. But again we've talked about this, Laura.

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 3>For it to look like that, you have to live

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 3>with me because I can't ever get it to look

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 3>like that by myself.

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 2>I just couldn't.

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 8>I likes in there, didn't We We did?

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we did highlights him. We got a little blonde there,

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 4>which is nice.

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 5>A little blonde action, little little bay watch going on.

0:40:57.200 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 3>There is a little bay watch going on there. If

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 3>we're going to run down the beach, go save somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and yeah, you're right. Your hair also has

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of what Riders does where it gets

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of curly over here on the sides, and so

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>it really does. When your hair is long, it looks

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 1>best when you blow dry your hair with.

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 5>A round brush. Yeah, will Fredell.

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 1>If there's one thing I've learned, will Fredell is not

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 1>going to spend the time by himself blow drying his

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:25.800
<v Speaker 1>hair with a round brush.

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 5>It's easier.

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 4>He would never get wings. I would get wings.

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, I got them in the back at the

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 2>bottom where I am.

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:34.959
<v Speaker 4>It looks good.

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:37.880
<v Speaker 3>But we would joke that it was the Carol Brady.

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 3>So I would always go, oh, Mike every time that

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:41.239
<v Speaker 3>my hair did that.

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, speaking of Rider, let's move on first with this.

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 5>Uh yeah, this uh.

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 8>Shocked a nice would me see that curl on the front,

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 8>Like I didn't want that there. It would just curl

0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 8>up and it looks like a wave. I would fight,

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 8>even though I think it looks right right now. Back then,

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:03.840
<v Speaker 8>I remember thinking I wanted it straighter. You know, that

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 8>was like the nineties kind of look, and I wanted

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 8>it to be straighter there. But it looks amazing.

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I know, it's so gorgeous. But yeah, I do remember

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 1>that would be a thing. You'd run out and like

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 1>put some product on your hair and try to brush

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:18.759
<v Speaker 1>it so that it wouldn't do that wave this way.

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 1>It would go back this way, like back away from

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:22.439
<v Speaker 1>his face instead of toward his face.

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:23.800
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:25.879
<v Speaker 4>By the time you were on the show, I had

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 4>finally stopped touching. And when we watched the first two seasons,

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 4>especially the first season, I am constantly it's like such

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 4>a nervous habit.

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:34.239
<v Speaker 5>Handswer the hair, answer the hair.

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:35.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh my god.

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:40.840
<v Speaker 8>Yeah. You know you guys like you were kids, you know,

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 8>and so you know, writer, you were always just like

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 8>in between takes, you and Ben would be like goofing

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 8>off and dancing and jumping around and you know, throwing

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 8>each other on the couch and I would just be

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:57.879
<v Speaker 8>standing there going, oh my god, stopping it again.

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Did you think it was crazy, LORI, when kids all

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 1>over the US were getting this like butt cut haircut.

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I know, I guess I just wasn't. It wasn't

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 8>until later that I realized that trends were set with

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 8>their haircuts. You know, I do think about it at

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:20.719
<v Speaker 8>the time, But people like in the audience, if they

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:22.880
<v Speaker 8>knew we all got a haircut, there would be people

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:28.400
<v Speaker 8>hanging down from the audience asking me to buy Could

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 8>I get some hair from the floor?

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:32.280
<v Speaker 5>Oh no, that's right, I just remembered.

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember Do you remember putting pieces of my

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 1>hair in a baggy from the haircut and we gave

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:38.760
<v Speaker 1>them to people in the audience.

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 8>No, we did.

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 5>We did.

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 4>Wow, somebody's cloning you right now.

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:46.400
<v Speaker 5>Somebody's got chunks of my hair and a ziplock baggy.

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 4>Oh that's not creepy at all. Yeah, that sounds creepy.

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.239
<v Speaker 5>So then let's go to another picture of rider. We've

0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 5>got short hair, good tea.

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 4>Right near the end. What do you remember tea and

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:01.239
<v Speaker 4>the ear? Oh?

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what do you remember about doing this short haircut

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 1>on him?

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 8>That was one that scared me because I just wasn't sure,

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 8>do you know what I mean? Like with you, it's

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:12.359
<v Speaker 8>just like a cut it off. It's gonna work way.

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 8>But with that cutting that, I was like, I just

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:18.239
<v Speaker 8>I'm not sure. But I loved it, and you loved

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:18.879
<v Speaker 8>it too, right.

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:21.279
<v Speaker 4>Writer, Oh my god. Yeah. I fought for it for

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:23.319
<v Speaker 4>so long and we finally got it. I remember just

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:24.240
<v Speaker 4>being like, yes.

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<v Speaker 8>Good and then I just just it just did whatever

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 8>we wanted it to do, and we didn't have to

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 8>worry about just straight and keeping it out of your face.

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 8>I love how that looks.

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I also love how much it looks like the guy

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>in the background is just smoking a cigarette.

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 3>I say, it's all I've been looking at, is that

0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:43.440
<v Speaker 3>guy back there smoking a cigarette.

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Again, we will put these pictures up on Instagram so

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 1>you guys get a chance to see what we see.

0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to another Topanga picture, this one. I've got

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 1>a clip in the front holding back some of my layers.

0:44:56.880 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember doing a lot of accessorizing, do you, Laurie, Do.

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:02.399
<v Speaker 5>You remember using a lot of accessories in my hair?

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 8>No, we didn't do it a lot. You want to

0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 8>know why? Yeah, so much hair I find accessories that

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 8>would would stay in your hair because you had too

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.280
<v Speaker 8>much hair, they were too small. So now that clips

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 8>in particular, like I could shit that. That looks so good.

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:22.280
<v Speaker 8>I would do that on your hair today.

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:23.840
<v Speaker 5>I know it's so cute.

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Why do we not? Why have we not done this recently? Well, okay,

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm saving this as inspo. And then another memorable hair

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 1>day from Tapanga's Sweet sixteen.

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 5>Episode that looks great.

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, isn't that cute? I love that look. I love

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:39.279
<v Speaker 1>a little uh.

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:42.479
<v Speaker 8>Get that a lot, a little messy different ways, but yeah,

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:45.880
<v Speaker 8>you always love that. And you love those little pieces.

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, love some pieces, love some dangling pieces, love a

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 1>little poof.

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:53.840
<v Speaker 8>You loved it. It was so cute. I remember we

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 8>did that one a lot.

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Is that fluffy? Is that technically flufy?

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:00.919
<v Speaker 5>That's pretty fluffy volume.

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:01.760
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm just checking.

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 3>I want to make sure that we get this definition

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 3>of fluffy down more for.

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 1>When you don't have an accessory in your hair, but

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 1>your hair is still poop poofy and fluffy.

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 5>It's that's really what flufy is. It's okay, fluffy.

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 4>Poof but minus accessories.

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:24.040
<v Speaker 1>But no accessories, because this is this is poofy partially

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 1>based on accessories. We've got it, You've got that little

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 1>top part pulls into a high pony forced poof Yeah,

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:32.399
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a touch. Yeah, you still see

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>what you see what I'm doing.

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:34.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm picking up what you're putting down.

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:40.640
<v Speaker 1>And then maybe the best work of Laurie's career. Here

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 1>are Ben and Ryder as Cora and Veronica was boy Ski.

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:50.320
<v Speaker 1>What do you remember about these wigs, Laurie? And why

0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 1>is Rider such a good looking woman?

0:46:53.080 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 8>Okay, this was probably the only day of my whole

0:46:57.080 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 8>experience on boy Mes World that there were twelve people

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:03.759
<v Speaker 8>in the room saying no, no, no, no no, and

0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:07.319
<v Speaker 8>then they loved it right away. And I still love

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:10.000
<v Speaker 8>that wig. I think it looks great. But of course

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:12.759
<v Speaker 8>I didn't know how to do wis and so I

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:15.320
<v Speaker 8>was faking it and trying to like make writer or

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 8>look like a girl, and it came out. Okay, but

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:21.400
<v Speaker 8>that looks gorgeous. That was tough. I have a picture.

0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 8>I don't know, Can I show a picture of me?

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:27.240
<v Speaker 8>That's it is doing that. But this is my memory

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:28.320
<v Speaker 8>of that day.

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 4>So stressed out, everybody.

0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:35.320
<v Speaker 8>On set kept coming up to me and saying Writer

0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:38.759
<v Speaker 8>looks like you as a girl. And I would look

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:40.920
<v Speaker 8>at Writer and be like, oh I do.

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 9>Everybody would.

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 8>But if you look at that kind of yes, how it.

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 5>Does it kind of does? You had banks.

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:53.080
<v Speaker 8>Ecue meday because everybody was coming up to me and

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:54.439
<v Speaker 8>saying that, and it was just.

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:55.720
<v Speaker 5>That is so funny.

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:58.359
<v Speaker 4>That was that was a lot of pressure. I mean

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:01.360
<v Speaker 4>that that I mean you think about what they wrote

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 4>into the script was already it was written into the

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 4>script that Ben makes a not attractive girl. So then

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 4>they do me and I'm it's in the script that

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:15.719
<v Speaker 4>I am convincing and beautiful and all these jokes about it,

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 4>and all that meant was that pressure on you and

0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 4>Annie to make it good like and I remember it

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:25.520
<v Speaker 4>was like okay, let's do this, and like Annie did

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:28.040
<v Speaker 4>all these like tape to like pull my face back

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 4>and like you guys spend hours. It was a lot

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 4>of work.

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:33.960
<v Speaker 8>It's a lot of work. I remember, like Susan in

0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:36.120
<v Speaker 8>the room going what make it? You know, change it?

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:39.399
<v Speaker 8>Everybody was giving me notes. But I also remember, like writer,

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:41.400
<v Speaker 8>I don't know if you remember, like you had a

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:45.719
<v Speaker 8>hard time with it. I remember you were like you

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:48.760
<v Speaker 8>guys didn't get nervous before things. You were really nervous.

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:52.240
<v Speaker 8>And also you couldn't like, you couldn't walk like a girl.

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 8>They had to change the shoes because you were having trouble.

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:57.759
<v Speaker 4>No, but I do remember it was not It was

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 4>a confusing week and retro respect, I should have been

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 4>more chill about it. But I think on one hand,

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to I wanted to do the role because

0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:09.000
<v Speaker 4>I thought it was a cool acting challenge, like, oh,

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:10.880
<v Speaker 4>I got I'm going to be playing a woman or

0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:13.120
<v Speaker 4>playing a man pretending to be a woman who's good

0:49:13.120 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 4>at being a woman. And I remember thinking that was cool,

0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:18.360
<v Speaker 4>But then so many people kept being like, you're so

0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:21.040
<v Speaker 4>attractive as a girl. I can't believe it, And it

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 4>was like over and over again to a point where

0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 4>it's like, yeah, that's the point, like we have an

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:27.879
<v Speaker 4>entire makeup and hair and wardrobe department whose job has

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:30.880
<v Speaker 4>been to make me attractive, and yes it worked, And

0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:32.799
<v Speaker 4>I remember starting to feel like, is this a bad thing?

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 4>Like it reflected on me in some way that was

0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 4>negative at the time. Now I would just be like,

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:40.799
<v Speaker 4>come on, that's so cool. But at the age of sixteen, yeah,

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 4>I think it threatened me in some way, or I

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:44.279
<v Speaker 4>don't know, it made me feel like maybe there's something

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 4>feminine about me that, which is so stupid, but I

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:49.520
<v Speaker 4>was insecure. I remember feeling weird about it, which is

0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 4>a bummer.

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 5>That is weird because yeah, the fact that it was.

0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 1>If anything, I was thinking that the reason you would

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:57.840
<v Speaker 1>have felt frustrated by that week was because you're not

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the type to enjoy hours of getting yourself to an

0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:08.320
<v Speaker 1>aesthetic place where everyone's complimenting you. You'd rather look natural

0:50:08.480 --> 0:50:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and rugged, and so if anything, I thought it was

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:13.319
<v Speaker 1>more like, my gosh, all this emphasis and it's it's

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.160
<v Speaker 1>annoying me. But it was actually that they did such

0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:20.799
<v Speaker 1>a good job making you look convincingly femininely beautiful that

0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:23.200
<v Speaker 1>it you felt a little offended.

0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:27.480
<v Speaker 3>Almost well it's yeah, nice too, But it was because yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:29.440
<v Speaker 4>And I think it was also the implication that there

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:32.520
<v Speaker 4>was something like, I don't know, because you're less of a.

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:34.799
<v Speaker 3>Man because you could pull off being a good looking woman, which,

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:37.799
<v Speaker 3>of course, in retrospect is ridiculous, but you're when you're

0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 3>a teenager.

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 4>It's the nineties. That was what it was.

0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's some of the worst insults you could

0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 3>tell your guy friends were, you know, saying you were

0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 3>a woman or how you're feminine.

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 4>It was totally so that was ex implication. So it's

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 4>just the implication was that I was pretty right, you know,

0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 4>and like and even if I was still a boy,

0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:58.799
<v Speaker 4>I was a pretty boy and which I didn't want

0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:00.680
<v Speaker 4>to be. And it was like that was just like

0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:03.279
<v Speaker 4>a thing I didn't Yeah, which is like I said

0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 4>in retrospect, just have fun with it, to go with it,

0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:07.919
<v Speaker 4>you know. But I was too insecure at that age

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:08.440
<v Speaker 4>in that time.

0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, lastly, we pulled a Girl Meets World picture

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:13.399
<v Speaker 1>just to talk about some of the looks you brought

0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:13.959
<v Speaker 1>to that show.

0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:17.800
<v Speaker 5>Let's see that picture. Oh, this is a writer directed

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Speaker 5>this episode.

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:21.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the Rodeo episode. We're doing this long lens outside.

0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:24.320
<v Speaker 4>The girls were like, yeah, twenty feet away from the

0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:25.960
<v Speaker 4>cameras at this point to get this shot.

0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:28.240
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, do you remember this week Lorii?

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:32.640
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I just I remember being on location there. Their

0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 8>hair looks really good.

0:51:33.680 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 5>It's like it looks gorgeous.

0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:38.520
<v Speaker 8>Michael not there that day, and I got to.

0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:42.360
<v Speaker 4>Do Michael took a back seat that entire day because

0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:44.360
<v Speaker 4>it was so stressful.

0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:45.919
<v Speaker 5>Man, I love that hair for both of them.

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:46.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it looks great.

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 8>Rowan's wearing ponytails. And later on maybe they had hats on.

0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:50.920
<v Speaker 8>I can't remember.

0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was gonna say there must have been. Maybe

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:54.640
<v Speaker 1>there was a reason you got to do tone down

0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:56.840
<v Speaker 1>hair because later they have cowboy hats on or something.

0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:58.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh that's right.

0:51:58.480 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 8>Maybe the cat the hats came up, and so we

0:52:00.719 --> 0:52:01.920
<v Speaker 8>got to just do the hair like this.

0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it looks really great, my gird everything, what all.

0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:14.359
<v Speaker 8>I'm so flattered by it, you know. Sabrina is just Yeah.

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:17.480
<v Speaker 8>I got pictures from her yesterday of like how good

0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:21.520
<v Speaker 8>my hair looks. And she's on tour with Taylor Swift

0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:23.400
<v Speaker 8>and she's so busy and she took the time to

0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 8>send me these pictures. Is so amazing and so so

0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:27.960
<v Speaker 8>c you.

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I know, I love whenever she's in town. She's always like,

0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm on my way to go see Lourie.

0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:33.040
<v Speaker 5>What are you doing? Come meet me.

0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's the only way Sabrina and I get to

0:52:35.600 --> 0:52:37.680
<v Speaker 1>see each other is if we meet over at Lorie's house,

0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:43.200
<v Speaker 1>where we both spend hours having our our haircut and colored.

0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:45.640
<v Speaker 3>Rder and I were just there, but just hanging out

0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:47.719
<v Speaker 3>talking right before the last shows, like, all right, well

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:50.240
<v Speaker 3>let's go hang out at Lorie's so much fun.

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:53.879
<v Speaker 1>Well, Laurie, thank you so much for spending your time

0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:58.359
<v Speaker 1>with us today and most importantly, for spending your time

0:52:58.400 --> 0:53:02.200
<v Speaker 1>with us all those years ago when we were awkward,

0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:08.560
<v Speaker 1>bubbling teenagers. Thank you for making our hair, our legendary

0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:12.160
<v Speaker 1>hair legendary. Without you, it just wouldn't have been the same.

0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:15.360
<v Speaker 1>We love you so much. You are a friend for always,

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and we love you and appreciate you so much.

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 8>Awkward were never awkward?

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 2>I disagree, Laurie.

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:29.279
<v Speaker 5>Where can people find you if they want to see you?

0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:30.120
<v Speaker 5>Where can they find you?

0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:34.600
<v Speaker 8>I guess my instagram is underscore hair by Laurie l

0:53:34.680 --> 0:53:35.680
<v Speaker 8>A U R I E.

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:38.640
<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much for joining us. We love you

0:53:50.200 --> 0:53:51.600
<v Speaker 5>so much fun.

0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 4>She's so talented, I know. I mean I think I

0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 4>took it for granted, you know, as a teenager, I

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:02.000
<v Speaker 4>just thought like, well, if you're a haircut person, you

0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:04.359
<v Speaker 4>are good at it. And of course the reality is

0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:06.560
<v Speaker 4>like a lot of people cut hair and are not

0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:08.279
<v Speaker 4>good at it. A lot of people cut hair in

0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:10.640
<v Speaker 4>the film and television industry and aren't that good at it.

0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:15.080
<v Speaker 4>She has amazing taste and amazing ability, and those two

0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:19.000
<v Speaker 4>things in combination. It's like, yeah, there's it's no wonder

0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:21.120
<v Speaker 4>that that Boy Meets World has this sort of hair

0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:23.920
<v Speaker 4>reputation and that, you know, Michael picked her out of

0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 4>relative obscurity, you know, because he recognized her talent and

0:54:28.880 --> 0:54:30.640
<v Speaker 4>her taste. And yes, she's just good.

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:33.160
<v Speaker 2>She also knows all the secrets too. That's what I

0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:35.799
<v Speaker 2>love that she knows the bois she does.

0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I forgot until she mentioned that that I went to

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the salon that that is that I was seeing her

0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:45.319
<v Speaker 1>like he brought. He brought laur On for us to

0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:47.879
<v Speaker 1>get that haircut before she officially made her way onto

0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Boy Meets World. But then I started going to her

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:52.840
<v Speaker 1>for color. So I would go to her old salon.

0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:55.600
<v Speaker 1>She worked at a salon called Yuki SHARONI I remember

0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:57.239
<v Speaker 1>it very well, and I would go my mom and

0:54:57.239 --> 0:55:00.959
<v Speaker 1>I would drive to Beverly Hills and she'd color my hair.

0:55:01.360 --> 0:55:04.000
<v Speaker 1>And she was the very first person to say to me,

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:07.640
<v Speaker 1>let's cut this, Let's cut this off. And then once

0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:11.319
<v Speaker 1>that was in my head, it's all I wanted. Sand

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:13.480
<v Speaker 1>did that seed, and I was like, all I want

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<v Speaker 1>is to cut my hair. All I want is to

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