WEBVTT - Episode 129 w/ Kid 'N Play 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.120 And it's Drink Chas motherfucking Podcast. Mason, He's a legendary 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:18.720 queen's rapper, He's Segre's your boy in O R E 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.680 He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What Up is d 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:24.560 j e FN? Together they drinking up with some of 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:29.720 the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast and 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:32.760 your number one sorts for drunk fact drink has motherfucking 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:35.920 Every day is New Year's e. That's it's time for 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:45.479 Drink Champs. Drink up, mother mother? What did you do 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:47.199 to be hopefully this ship be? This is your boy 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.720 in O R What Up is dj e FN? And 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:57.360 this is Drink Chas Podcast? Make Up Now now one 0:00:58.120 --> 0:00:59.720 with me and my partner to the left of me, 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:02.200 DyF And we started this podcast we wanted to say 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.800 that we wanted to salute the legends. There's so many 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:06.840 people that after you have ten years, you have you know, 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.200 fifteen years, you know, twenty years in this game, people 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:10.920 want to ride you off and people want to tell 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.520 you you know, you ain't you, you're old and all that. 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.640 But that's not what we do here. We do heres. 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:17.440 We want to respect all legends. We want to let 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:19.199 these people know we want to get them their flowers 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.120 where they can smell them. They treat where they can't 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:22.679 help them. They thought us where they can think them, 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.039 and they drink what they can drink them. And today 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.759 we have people who I felt like they literally raised 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:30.840 me from being from Queen's I've made from down the 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.280 blocking point um from where they from Elmhurst, being b 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.080 from Left Franck City. I'm just so honored. I'm went 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:39.880 and I've watched House Party again and I just went 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.319 and just did because you know what, and I forgot 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.120 how much of a fan like I'm starstruck right now 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.360 to tell you. And so I would like to welcome 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:57.160 to the build the kid. And that's the craziest thing 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:58.720 about your stories. I a little, so I a little. 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:00.720 By the way, here's the craziest thinking about your story 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:05.320 is play You were a wild guy back there, go ahead, 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.040 that's what That's what they say. They say you were 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:13.960 looked up that hat Patty Mason, Like those were my heroes. Man, 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.600 I was no head. You know what I'm saying. We 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:18.680 didn't have the kind of heroes a lot of cats 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:22.399 have today. You know, there was no rap stars. And 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.080 for my upbringing, you know, my father being out there 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.600 and the black exploitation films and all that. I thought 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.400 that's all it was for us, you know, so that 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.359 when we're seeing these ghetto celebrity stars like you know 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:37.080 what I'm saying, the Benzes and BMW's and all that 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.320 good stuff, I thought that's all it was for me. 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.480 Because when Cats was in the school, you know, the 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.360 fireman and the president of the bank coming talking about 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.079 how to be successful, I didn't know about what the 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.080 heck they was about. Talking to me about roaches and 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:53.880 the house, even about no heat. You know, I'm not 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.440 seeing the mark four, Continental, mark fowards and all of that. 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:01.360 So I was stupid man to God be the well 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:08.200 we well, we're here. I dragged him out, so kid, 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.399 because I don't know, I'll follow what you do. And 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.040 I know you got a close relationship with Bill Moore. Yes, 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:19.360 Bill Moore, who was a person idolized people with h 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:20.760 Bill Bill Moore. I don't know if I say the 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:27.480 name right always, So Bill Moore, we s probation right now. Yeah, 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.519 he said what he said. I told him, I said, 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:31.160 you say nigga one more time? Are you gonna be 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:37.440 able to shade you get one more game. Well, how 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:39.680 did you do you speak to him since then? Oh? Yeah, yeah, 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.240 if we got dinner, like a few weeks back, the 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.720 Bill tells me, when I'm not around, he's playing with 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.920 kid and play. Well, yeah, well you celebrated his run 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:49.960 to his binger. It's a couple of years back. He's like, 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.680 I'm the play when you're not a married yea, yeah, yeah, 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:58.920 you're right, chimp. No, no, yeah, he's been he's been 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.600 a close friend since like since like the mid nineties. Uh. 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.560 And you know, did you do his original shows we 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.040 are politically correct? I probably did that about twenty times. 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.160 And I think I was on the finale episode as well. Uh. 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:13.800 Then you know, he got into that trouble with you know, 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:16.559 back in the you know, Iraq War days and stuff 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.440 like that, you know, not eleven Chip. And then he 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.400 came back again on HBO and I actually did the 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:23.720 Couple of Buddies and mine did the theme music for 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.440 you know I know that. Yeah, yeah, they switched it 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:29.320 up last year for some reason. I don't know. It 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.480 wasn't broken, but you know, but you know, he's been 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.000 good to me and and you know, he's one of 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.440 those guys that over the years, he's kind of taught 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.680 me a lot. He's probably one of the smartest and 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.840 not the smartest dude that I know. So I think 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.680 we've we've had a positive kind of impact. I've tried 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.719 to have him enjoy his successful Like honestly, I don't 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.560 know politics to his show, because like I just I'll 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:51.360 just like the smoke weed. I just look at it 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:57.479 show like you we smoke pounds. So let me ask 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.040 you a question, because you guys career, like when I 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:01.680 went and I you know, I went and looked at 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:06.039 you guys, you were like one of the first transitions, 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.919 like meaning you guys had an album, oh in the 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.479 movie just you just started a movie right after that. 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.680 You know what's so funny. The only thing I ever 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:20.000 wanted was a single for the women. That's all I done. 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:26.880 That's just get us. We're good. I was good already, 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.000 but that was gonna be like yo, you know what 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.920 I'm saying. I never, in my wild of dreams would 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:36.080 be a full album using videos, movies, cartoon series, Marvel 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:39.400 comic strip At one time, it was small. What was it? Love? 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.560 Mattel was talking about the toys at one time. For 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.360 you know what I'm saying the Saturday Morning Cartoons joint, right, 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.200 How I didn't make that transition all. What people don't 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.840 know is Reggie Hudland, who wrote and directed the original 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.160 House Party, was a video director back in the days, 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.200 and he used to chase meet and particularly to chase 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.640 me down in clubs because he wanted to shoot. I'm 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.080 using video on us. But we had we had a 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:03.600 guy at that time, so we were we were cool. 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:05.599 Then one time you stepped to me was like, yo, 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.480 excuse me, I got a movie script for y'all. He 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.359 was like, so back then it was in our crew 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.960 like me play and the Herbie love Bug producer. It 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:15.719 was it was kind of like my job to read 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:28.080 stuff because because I couldn't out of Green English literature, 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.760 you know. So they we got the script and I 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.039 remember reading it and I remember coming back and telling 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:37.040 playing Herbie. I said, you know what, it's like seventy 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:41.400 percent there, Like the structure was really strong, the characters 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:45.240 were fleshed out. It just riginal script and it was 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:50.240 ridden for you guys because Jeff that now Reggie and 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.160 then wanted us to do because they was familiar with 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.000 our videos and stuff. They felt it was a good 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:58.440 fit New Line Cinema, Will Smith and Jazzy Jeff because 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.680 they felt it was a better bad for their to 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:04.360 edge their bets. But at the time they were suing 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:09.280 Will and Jeff, Mike Knight, Me on My Street and 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:10.960 Jeff and them was like, what are you crazy? Wants 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.320 to do a movie and you're seeing us, So they 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.480 weren't with it, but Reggie and Warrenton always wanted us 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.720 to do already. Originally the conceptually they were always thinking about. Yeah, 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.800 I mean it was kind of based on childhood friends. 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:25.360 And I think even with Groovy chilling all of them, 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:27.120 I think they had a place in it as well. 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.960 So I was got that line before. Force kept saying 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:36.400 that this, so I really joined. I felt like it 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.000 was seventy percent there. But but and I thought we 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.200 could bring it the rest of the way, like we 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.400 could hip hop legitimize it, and and so you know, 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.200 I urged the you know, our girls, the guys that 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.400 that want to do it right. So but that's what happened. 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:55.400 To his credit, Reggie Huglin, let us do basically what 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.800 we wanted to. He was he was saying stuff like, look, 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.680 here's the structure, here's the format. Now, if there's a 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:02.840 better way to say it to get to where we 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:04.960 gotta get to, if there's a more hip hop and 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.160 a legitimate way to say it, do it that way. 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.320 So he allowed us to do that, and in particular, 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.960 full force all that stuff that full force did they 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.600 plade all that stuff, all that I smell, I smell 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:19.280 that kick, all that they made up, they all of 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:20.960 that stuff. And that's one of the great things that 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.840 we liked about Reggie because he let us do our thing. Now, 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.200 if it came to something really really crucial that he 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.040 thought was crucial to the to the scene or something 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:29.560 like that, maybe even you know, he would he would 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:31.480 hold a forward on that. But for the most part, 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:33.079 you know, he kind of let us do our thing 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.360 and let you know, lift the hip hop come out. 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.600 And the truth be told, I didn't want to do 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.760 the movie because at the time we was making crazy 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.520 money with the music and I felt and you would 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:46.400 think apartment but at that time when people would do 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:48.640 commercial days of movies, they would say that they great 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:52.760 commercial or something that was about reason. At the time, 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.560 I felt we were making great money. I'm looking at 0:08:55.679 --> 0:09:00.280 the history of hip hop in movies because while style 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.000 and we can't forget tougher than leather, you know what 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:06.640 I'm saying, we can't forget to So I'm like it 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:08.920 Running Sea can't pull off of a movie who they 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.120 had everything we are, you know what. I'm trying to 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.400 be the business minded one. But we had this rule 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:16.839 among its called majority rules, and herbiean kid outvoted me. 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:25.959 It's the best, the best. You know how many we 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:30.760 wasn't were on us? Just one? Yeah, it's too high. 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.920 When we did Funhouse, that was us building off the 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:37.560 popular that's what we call it. Because the legal reasons, 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.280 we couldn't call it house party, so that's why we 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.480 call it. So it couldn't be the legitimate soundtrack of No, 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.319 we didn't joints on the soundtrack too cold joints for 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.520 the sound track two we actually they were like competing 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:48.680 against one another at the time. So yeah, but look 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.959 how long your career, your career you had up a 0:09:52.120 --> 0:10:01.160 one holum it goes the way that's make that that's career. 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.319 That's a career like most people. And just to think 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.839 about it nowadays, nowadays music is so disposable. What's what's 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:09.920 a hit? Record today will not be a hit record 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.920 by the summertime. Remember remember you used to have a 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:15.760 hit record, your records to be a hit record at 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.880 least for a year or two. Now you have a 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.800 hit record and you do a music video months. Now 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.280 you have to do a music video every week. Well, 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.000 I will say this to to something to think that 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:27.720 the artist of today kind of kind of you know, 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.280 they obviously have a different outlook on it. Um. You know, 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.760 you know, the mentality back then was like make the 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:38.280 joint tour, take some time off and then running back. Nowadays, 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.319 like you said, maybe because of the music is so disposable. 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.080 These guys just started hitting and hitting and hitting. You know, 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:44.839 guys like Jay started doing. They were just like a 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.360 little as long as we're doing hot joints, let's don't 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.560 let's don't give him a chance to forget about us, 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.960 you know what I'm saying, Will, Yeah, there's a lot 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:56.679 about about the new era of rappers, Uh, the way 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:58.480 they approach it that I like, you know what I'm saying. 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.800 For instance, I would like to hit Yeah. Well, I mean, 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.560 look I listened to so much new rap. I mean, 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:05.880 you know, I mean how you call him a young dug. 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:11.480 He was like, here's the permision. He was back, Yeah, 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:15.920 I want to hit it sheets, shotty sheets, you know 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:17.679 what I mean. I listened to it. I listened to 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:19.560 a lot of cats. I mean obviously you listened to 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.560 the big ones. You know, we love we love the Drakes, 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:25.160 and we love the logics, and we love the Jake 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.640 Holes and we love Kendricks. Yeah yeah, yeah, and and 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.240 a lot of you know, underground casting underground, you know, 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.200 send me stuff all the time. Wait moved him. That's 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:37.240 the way, real quick, it's yours. So people so waiting, 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:39.000 so a young artist, they kind of hit me up 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.360 all the time. And and they say, Yo, man, you 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:43.160 want seeing you this joint? Man, Maybe you wudn't play, 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:44.720 Maybe you want to jump on them. Maybe you play 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.839 up another story. May tell that story, man, maybe you 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:50.480 would play. Want to jump on the Jorge? I said, Yo, 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:51.679 may send send me to join. You know. You know 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.599 what I'm saying. I'll keep it out. So people that 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:55.920 got computer and listening to the joint, man, you know, 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:57.400 the beat is kind of rocking, man, he said. You know, 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.400 me and my man, we couldn't joint. Dedicated to y'all, guys, 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.960 you do rhyming or whatever. Didn't think you get to 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:09.640 the hook. He goes undertam undertown every day. Don't care 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:14.079 what you say. I ain't just the day we tag 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:25.560 team bitches. That's that kids, I said this this one. 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:31.600 He didn't playing me. I think you just threw that 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:36.040 record right now. I said, first of all, ain't no 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.560 way to play getting on this. That's a non start up. 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:43.000 And I said, that's just even too raw for me. 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:48.280 Manage did not did you guys? Do you guys know 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.760 like how famous that dances like we gotta do it. 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.719 In about an hour, I heard y'all say that that's 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:59.960 that beat in your contract for real. Well, he show 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.440 people tell if we don't do it, there might be 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:09.160 a mutiny. You know. It's so funny because I was thinking, 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.120 I said, you know, you look at Do Do the 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.400 Douggie and all these dances coming out, And I got 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.760 to confess, especially I was with Douggie last night and 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.120 he killed the crowd with that. But I remember when 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.400 the records record came out and the the dance became popular, 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:22.719 like oh this is the end of the kid and 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.319 play kickstep. This is going on replace it, But we're 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.800 still good. Like, and I'm like, what makes the record, 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.720 what makes this dance last this long? And it finally 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.319 hit me it's the only dance out there took two 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:39.439 people exactly. When you want to celebrate something, you need, 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:42.520 you need, you whatever, this is the dance you do 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:44.640 and many people to people send the videos and you 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:48.000 see the videos everybody doing kid and play dude, do 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.000 hit the strike at the bowling now and the kid 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.839 play the two change wanted to do? 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Because so you guys, tetually came out of 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.600 eighty eight the first came but our first single, last Night, 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:22.440 came out and even changed it first whatever in the game. 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.480 How many years is that? Eight seven, that's almost that's 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:32.960 thirty one, thirty years. Let's make some mud. He called 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:40.680 years flavorless. Now you guys are on tour with Donna 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.320 Show with Smokey Robinson. You've never had a reason to 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.440 be in the room with smoke with Robinson. Let you 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:50.560 know how up my life is actually, but we've done that. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.600 You don't know, you know smoke actually I don't even 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.360 let him through. Welson Day and the Path who were 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.800 used to our films. But that's the thing, and I 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.080 guess it's it's a blessed them because we've been kind 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.840 of one of those hip hop groups that you can 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.080 we can we can go on the all rap line up, 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.840 but we also you can throw us on R and 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:10.840 B dudes like you know, we did a show in 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:15.400 Atlanta last year with Ron Eisley Keeps You Up and 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.560 Ever in Champagne King and we were only rappers on 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:19.000 so that that's happened a lot over the years that 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:39.240 we were all y'all. Y'all can remix it be no ray, Yeah, 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.400 but you know how powerful to crossover pillings. I'll never 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.480 forget when I was a Sunset Bullovard one time it 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.440 was a restaurant and the one and the only line 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.600 up Richie and I had to roll up on him 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:56.120 and this guy I don't run queens. Richie wouldn't even 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.920 let me talk because he knew about us and just 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:04.200 running us with the Jackson same thing. You don't get away. 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:08.560 Can just say that at the time you see you 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:15.240 saying something said Jackson, you know those guys we're not 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.440 giving people they do We fans too, you know what 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.480 I'm saying. I mean, Yo, Luther vander All and we've 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.520 had the honor. But when you go up and you're 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.760 trying to tell them how much you admire their work, 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.199 and they're cutting you off because they're telling how much 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:32.119 they've enjoyed your work, it's like surreal, Richie. I just 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:37.840 roll up on him and said, somebody, yeah you know, 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.720 but that's but you know what it is. Yeah, you know, 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.440 y'll come across people. You have no idea who is 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.920 a fan of yours. But but players, right, we we 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.119 usually come out first with you know, with the with 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.120 the that just rolled up on pieces of a dream 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:54.320 Man ran down, you know, we groove for my phone 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.560 and they're like shock, like yo were music lovers man 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.880 winning five Old day. He's really I'm old. So what's 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:03.959 the best what's the best error in hip hop? To you? 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:08.560 Every we came out him for me? Late eighties? Wait, 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.600 so you don't go eight eight to uh, you don't 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.600 go ten years, you just you just went eight eight 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:17.800 to ninety two. Then if you if you look at 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.639 the groups that came out at that time, you know 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:24.160 what I'm saying, And that's like and that's like, that's 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:28.679 that's primarily East coast, but towards the end, yeah, when 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.720 the what comes popping off? So I kind of I 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.400 kind of circle that. It's a question I always needed 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.440 to know. Was Kane talking about y'all when he said, 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:40.560 who's flat top rules and eighty nine? I don't and 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:42.800 I are great friends. Let's never come up. I've never 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:44.879 even thought about. But I know what you're saying. I 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:48.200 don't like because because you know, you heard the room 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:52.399 yea yeah. But when we ask him, you know, but 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:57.760 this is this is the thing when when somebody like 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:04.840 he's talking about said he you know. But but the 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:06.959 thing with k is and this is what we always 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.280 I always liked it in mind about him was Kane 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:13.400 always appreciated the thrill of the competition, like it wasn't 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:15.199 no deef but it's just like, yo, you know, it's 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.040 almost like the steel shop and steel Man. You know 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:19.720 what I'm saying, you want to do? I want to do? 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:23.080 And his his his hit top was was a work 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:24.920 of art. You know what I'm saying. And I think 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.080 you know, if that was anything was a friendly competition. 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.040 You know mine is probably longer, but his was his 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:33.080 was like cloud Cloud three three cussing eyebrow turning a 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:36.959 while out that arrows was great. But let me ask 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:39.119 you something because since we brought it up being at 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.280 the West Coast sted Rising around the time you guys 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:43.359 are bubbling, and I remember as a fan, I'm listening 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:45.320 I got Kid and playing on the mixtape and I'm 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:48.440 starting I got n w A Easy, we got a story. 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.679 So I'm wondering, like, yeah, like how was that because 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.439 for me was speaking about the errors. That was the 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:57.000 first that some other they talked about in straight out 0:19:57.000 --> 0:20:03.200 of that don't want to tell you that stories too 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:09.760 in the book, but no in w A Man. Interesting 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:13.800 thing was I remember being introduced to their music in 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:15.960 l A and I could at the time, I could 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:17.600 curse with the best of them. When I heard that, 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:21.080 I was like, yo, and I'll never forget when we 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:25.080 have been on every Public Enemy tour like that was 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.800 the best. Always wanted us on his tours. And we 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:31.919 had just finished this night and I'm one out, I'm tired, 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:34.760 and they come to me with the pitch for the 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:36.480 next tour and they got n w A on and 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:38.760 I'm like, na, man, I mean that that's just already 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:44.080 heard the music. Yeah, there's been much easy. But I 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.680 got the start. When I came down from the after party, 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:48.880 we ready getting into some women the whole night like that. 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.600 I wanted my famous peinter Colada Virgin Peter Colatta, but 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:54.760 the boss shut down. I felt I could use my name, like, 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:56.280 oh man, He's like, I don't care well know who 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.359 you are. You ain't getting no Peanut colatda. So the 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:00.240 promoter comes and says, yo, I got to stay. I said, 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.440 I'm not doing this thing. I said, you know what, 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:04.600 let me be fair. If you get me a Peter Coloido, 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:06.480 I'll do the tour. Because I thought that the ball 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:10.639 was shut. Darl Brooks G Street Productions comes over with 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.680 to Peter Colloidas and a half of Peter Coloida and 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:15.679 I had to keep my word and we ended up 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:17.679 doing the tour. But the reason why they needed us 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:19.359 to be about the reason why they I wanted to 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:21.440 keep my word, the reason why they needed us on yourself. 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:26.879 Yeah that's for Yeah, because with Public Enemy and m 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:28.960 w A on the same tour, they thought it was 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:34.480 gonna be crazy about. So that's why we ended up 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:37.360 being a part of that history. And we had fun 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:40.320 with the guys. A lot of and that this is 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.320