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424
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Speaker 1: on it yet, so they'll say his name actually Struggle

425
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Speaker 1: a little bit. And I remember the last couple of shows,

426
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Speaker 1: even too short, you're saying struggle, you know. But I

427
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Speaker 1: remember one night. I remember one night game too too.

428
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Speaker 1: I had a rough night, as we all do sometimes,

429
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Speaker 1: and so we're backstage and two short man, that's my man,

430
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Speaker 1: fifty grand I remember him telling it, saying the t

431
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Speaker 1: K he said, Man, he said, Man, I might have

432
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Speaker 1: bombed the night, but nigga, you bombed every night pre consistent.

433
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Speaker 1: Because you know what, here's here's a piece of history

434
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Speaker 1: for you. People could say what they want to say

435
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Speaker 1: in regards to taking a minute for it to catch

436
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Speaker 1: you on the New York but one Catch never gets

437
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Speaker 1: his property. She got that helped out MW n W

438
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Speaker 1: A A lot um DC, he wrote, the mainstream main

439
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Speaker 1: I mean you know what I'm saying, regular play and

440
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Speaker 1: Catch had to give credit to Dr Dre and that

441
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: whole thing man, because he was doing it, man, and

442
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Speaker 1: that helped us. It helped us. You in the n

443
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Speaker 1: W a fan and as a place and we all

444
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Speaker 1: we all had a blast and these are some friendships

445
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Speaker 1: that that we that we we carried, you know to

446
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Speaker 1: this day. You know what I'm saying. I mean when

447
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Speaker 1: we were joking around by t K but you know,

448
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Speaker 1: look he was a part of it as well. Two

449
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Speaker 1: Short was on that DLC was on that tour. J

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Speaker 1: J Fad was on that tour, um uh and then

451
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Speaker 1: all other toys we went on. We were doing stuff

452
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Speaker 1: with Digital Underground when Tupac was a back yeah when

453
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Speaker 1: he was Yeah, he was. He was young. And it

454
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Speaker 1: was funny with Tupac because he wanted to wrap so

455
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Speaker 1: bad that he really so at the after party one time,

456
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Speaker 1: we're hanging out men and him I go down, I'm

457
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: just there for the women. So he wants to get on.

458
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Speaker 1: Then he wants to get on the mike, so he goes.

459
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: The DJ goes, yo, we got my man play in

460
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Speaker 1: the house, play coming up to the booth and wrapped

461
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, I don't want to two You're

462
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Speaker 1: man going up there. Let's get up there and said, yeah,

463
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Speaker 1: I'm not here for that man. Well let's get up there.

464
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: When the DJ gives you the Mike. You quickly what

465
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I mean we were be down, beat downs

466
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Speaker 1: and all of that. He had the craziest question on

467
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Speaker 1: yo Yo. He loved him because we go but Yo,

468
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Speaker 1: he would do anything for Yo Yo. You know what

469
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. He shout, Now I've seen dope and you

470
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Speaker 1: you said that g Rapp is from your neighborhood. She

471
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Speaker 1: was still rappers from Corona, and so you claim him

472
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Speaker 1: as being from alm Hurst when I've seen you. You

473
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Speaker 1: know what got confused because a lot of cats would

474
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Speaker 1: hang out in the heart because from the girls was

475
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Speaker 1: at what I'm saying, and some cats didn't want to

476
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Speaker 1: claim Corona like that because they wanted the girls over

477
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Speaker 1: that are so sometimes the five line because you had

478
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Speaker 1: like thirty seventh, thirty fourth try but you know when

479
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Speaker 1: you looked at the school district or whatever, you would

480
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Speaker 1: say Corona, but come to find out it was Jackson

481
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Speaker 1: Hikay dirty fourth Avenue is because I would say that

482
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Speaker 1: we considered thirty second Avenue and beyond to be up

483
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Speaker 1: in Corona. Thirty second, thirty second Avenue. I don't know,

484
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Speaker 1: it would be like that's us. He considered that. You know,

485
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Speaker 1: you remember the bomb building. What was that Corona was

486
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Speaker 1: at the hearse we can set the hearse um. You

487
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Speaker 1: know who's horse nass, guys, by the word we can said,

488
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Speaker 1: it's old school queens. Relax and by the way, hassan,

489
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Speaker 1: and by the way, kid, I spoke to the Queen's

490
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Speaker 1: delegation and when we looked at your story, we want

491
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Speaker 1: you to raise the Bronx out of you want you

492
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Speaker 1: to just claimed queens. You spoke in the Queen's delegation

493
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Speaker 1: and I also spoke to the Bronx congregation and they said,

494
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Speaker 1: it's okay, how about a queen. You want you to

495
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Speaker 1: fully claim your bronze. The Bronx raised queens pret queen's

496
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Speaker 1: paybe yo yo, so o man, I mean you and

497
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Speaker 1: Salt and Pepper worked at sears together, your sears a

498
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Speaker 1: robot telephone all down the FI at some point or

499
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Speaker 1: the first one got So what happened if you guys

500
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Speaker 1: went to guy fired, you have to stay this this

501
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Speaker 1: that was in the sand, I mean, I mean it

502
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Speaker 1: would have been no story. And Sulton Pepper was there

503
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Speaker 1: and spend just salt Pepper, just Salt and pepper over

504
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Speaker 1: Martin station, right, Yeah, I used to work in a

505
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Speaker 1: gas station Acrose the street from Let's let's just break

506
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Speaker 1: that down right. Yeah, they've been Pepper worked at Serious

507
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Speaker 1: together and Martin walked across the street and it has that,

508
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Speaker 1: it has gas station talent, and we all and we

509
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Speaker 1: all and we all got down. I mean, can you

510
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Speaker 1: imagine that's like a billion one? Like all five of

511
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Speaker 1: us include heard be like all of us, all of us,

512
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: that's crazy man. And then y'all actually Chris Tucker and

513
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: Bernie Mack is like your discovery. I wouldn't I mean,

514
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. I mean their first movies, Um,

515
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: you know their first Chris Tucker first movie was was

516
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: House Party three. Bernie mac first movie was Happen Bernie

517
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: Mac was this this is a piece of history. Martin

518
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Speaker 1: didn't want to be in House Party three and we

519
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 1: need huh So anyway, so anyway doing the movies at

520
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: this point, yes, but we're getting paid. So anyway, I'm like, yo,

521
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: we need some star power, we need some comedy power

522
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: in this joint. I went to go see to the

523
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: premier of Who's the Man the Bernie It's like, yes,

524
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: I looked at the screen. I said, this could be

525
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Speaker 1: Robin Harris's brother, Complexion the whole not. So I told

526
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: him because he was there, I said, dude, I'm gonna

527
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: get you in house spot. I'm gonna get it whatever.

528
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: I said. It was a name sousing something up at

529
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Speaker 1: New Line the lady. Yeah, yeah, one of the v

530
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Speaker 1: I p s. And I told him, yeah, you need

531
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,239
Speaker 1: to get into this needs to happen. Did you need

532
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: to have the next day, I know, yeah, happy, yeah, yeah.

533
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: So it was definitely early career. And I remember I

534
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: used to see I used to watch Chris Tucker when

535
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: he came out from Atlanta and watched him do stand

536
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: up in Hollywood at the Comedy Store in particular, and

537
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: you know you called me. He said, you trust me

538
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: on this because we had we were about to shoot

539
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 1: this scene the next day. And then he said, yo, man,

540
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: we ain't got nobody. We ain't got we need the

541
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: manager for the trip, and we ain't got me got

542
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: a party man, So we got nobody. He's gonna perform.

543
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: And I was like, I was like, I said, I

544
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: just seen money at the comedy store, man, you know

545
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And CHRISTI just got on stage. So

546
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: I stepped to him and you know, you know Chris,

547
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: Chris liked what your doing. So I said, yo, man,

548
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: come down to the set tomorrow. You know what I'm saying.

549
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: We go, there's a part for you, man, just do

550
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: went down there, did the one scene you I mean,

551
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: stole it with the scene, you know what I mean.

552
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: And then his next movie after that was Friday because

553
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: now new Line was very very familiar with him, and

554
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, Cube brought on first quantity y'allah. Yeah, I'll

555
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: tell you. At the same time, yes, from a live

556
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: doing stand up man, he was, I mean, he was

557
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: just a young Chris Tucker, like fresh out of Atlanta.

558
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: Was electric. He was electric man, and I knew yeah,

559
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: and that and that goes back to another thing that

560
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: play was talking about kind of kind of entring toward

561
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: these house party movies, especially toward the end they we

562
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: get we get most of the credit, but there was

563
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: lots of good people and and we wanted that We

564
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: don't want to you know, we wanted everybody to shine

565
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: because then it uplifts the movie. Everybody wins. So when

566
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: people so when we wanted Martin to come back for

567
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: the house party together, but you gotta let him win,

568
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: you know, We told him put full forth in House

569
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: Party too, because because they because it ain't broke and

570
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: not not. Why are you? Why are you? Why are

571
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: you replacing them? Are you taking away? Let's add let's

572
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: add to it. So what the course of the three

573
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: house parties in a movie like Class Act? We were

574
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 1: always trying to load up on the talent and if

575
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: it meant giving people opportunities that hadn't had opportunities before,

576
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: isn't true. Lebron James is doing a new we makeup

577
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: House part that's the word, that's the word on word

578
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: on sreeze. How did that? How does that happening? He

579
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: has the cool y'all? Man, you mean we we own

580
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: House Party, but we don't own it, you know what

581
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's time for it, that's new line. So,

582
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's obvious the day they've kind of bonded

583
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: together and to formulation they got good people with it, man,

584
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: I mean brother Donald Glover's brother Atlanta, you know what

585
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So yeah, I mean I'm just concerned because

586
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: it's a different time in this world. You know, when

587
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: you came up with the House Party, then it was relatable.

588
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: Everybody knew about the house party, parents going down south,

589
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: just that. Look at let's put that where we are today.

590
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's clubs. I was back then.

591
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I was in love with Gina back then.

592
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, great kisser, shout out to teacher, But you

593
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: didn't hit you back out on the market and then

594
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: you're not gonna lie and play. I ain't gonna lie

595
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: old and you were knocking down a lot of it

596
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: just clas I mean that was the word in Queens.

597
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They was like yeomen and you were like

598
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: the first restless Nights. Thinking about it, he was. He

599
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: was the first Westley Pip, you know. But that's it.

600
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: It's dude. This dude was a terror on You don't

601
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Speaker 1: play for playboyvolgue, but you have. That's why all of them. Yeah,

602
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: the bad one, that's the one. Yeah. My kid was

603
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: knocking out those books in school exactly first we Firth

604
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: started hanging off. I have a big thick glasses like,

605
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: what's going on there? That class? Yeah yeah, yeah, but

606
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: that's what he helped me out a lot with that.

607
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: You know, he kind of help you get a lot

608
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: of games because my game was class really really yeah,

609
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: that's why we do. It's really not not It's funny

610
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: because when we first got out on the road, we

611
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: had to share a room together, a low budget situation.

612
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: They used to call a sit and Clay. They would

613
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: never get our names right, you know. And he beat

614
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: some girl and come to the room late, and who

615
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: wait for the phone to ring because she's supposed to

616
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: call him when she got home safely. I'm like, dude,

617
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: he was one of those Yeah, I was I was

618
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: talking about and he couldn't go to that without some

619
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Speaker 1: tea teething dog. Who is this so wird? You know what?

620
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: Get me out of And you really did good at school?

621
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: And here like that, And I said, I learned how

622
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: to talk is from this dude, because school's got done

623
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: with me, Art Designed Flush and High Hillcrest High Brian

624
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: I got kicked out of. But I started hanging out

625
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: with this guy when I taught him how to cut

626
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: school the whole nine And we be in his crib

627
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: and Jeopardy would come on and it was they tell me, yes,

628
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: but I can. I can be an intelligent funk out

629
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: of it. You know what I'm saying. Because I used

630
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: to use all my children to get it. Women, you

631
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, watch the soaps when I cut

632
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: out being the party. See your girl wanted to get

633
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: what excuse me? But do you know what happened with

634
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: Erica Kane and so on? So today you watch the soaps. Yeah,

635
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Speaker 1: you know, my little tend to side sliding. Don't try

636
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Speaker 1: to say some real component ship right here. I know

637
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Speaker 1: that thing so far was was a way like I

638
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: used to I want to leave in college back in

639
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: the days, and so at lunch time I would go

640
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Speaker 1: to like the student center because that's when the girls were.

641
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Speaker 1: All the girls with there. You'd be me and like

642
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Speaker 1: twenty chicks, you know what I mean, watching watching all

643
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Speaker 1: my children. So you just you know what I gotta saying.

644
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Speaker 1: Names only somebody would watch with you, so you don't know,

645
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: you wouldn't play games, you know. And then Martin, Martin,

646
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Speaker 1: how do you know about that? A bunch of chicks right?

647
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, damn they got me. Yeah, what

648
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 1: like the chicks to look at me like he looks

649
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: like a cuddler whatever, like inside competition between you and

650
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: Salt Pepper being that it was like y'all was the

651
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: exact opposite version of each other. Never we helped each

652
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Speaker 1: other a lot, you know what I'm saying there, you know,

653
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I mean that too, because our first

654
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: thing was really well, I was in the tramp video

655
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: and then we were in Shake Your Thing, you dance

656
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: with Shake Your Thing. But the thing was Kid helped

657
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Speaker 1: with the lyrics, help her reform that I with the

658
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: outfits and to give the pushing jackets, all of that

659
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So and they helped us. Man, I

660
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: mean the girls that are believe me forever. If you

661
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: look at you look at a lot of early Song

662
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: and Pepper videos, you see us all up in there,

663
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, and then what we like the detectives and

664
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Speaker 1: shake your things and everybody get up. But this is,

665
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: this is this was the idol maker's way. You know, Herbie.

666
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: Herbie is conglomerate at that time because it was always

667
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Speaker 1: the strong helping the week. So so Pepper helped put

668
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Speaker 1: us on. Then we came and then we put it.

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Speaker 1: You know, we put Karma on. You know, he's started

670
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: appearing in on Star. We started dressing videos. Like you

671
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Dana Dan was in the you know,

672
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: go back and watch old data dame videos. We all

673
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Speaker 1: have been there, you know, just just topped for one

674
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Speaker 1: second because Um plays so nonchalant. He was like he

675
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Speaker 1: helped with the lyrics. Why do you think back in

676
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Speaker 1: the days like Big Daddy came with out front right

677
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Speaker 1: for bis Marck, he would make it be known. I

678
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Speaker 1: mean easy. He has a line on his lyrics. He

679
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Speaker 1: says ice cu right the rhymes that I say. And

680
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Speaker 1: you just said like, but back then that was not

681
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: frowned upon. But now you know, I heard you missed

682
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: Drake earlier. Um, I wouldn't looked at your interviews. You

683
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: missed Drake a lot like I saw I done that

684
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Speaker 1: you like drinking, But why do you think it was

685
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Speaker 1: so Why do both of you guys, not just you,

686
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Speaker 1: but why do I both of you guys think that

687
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Speaker 1: it's so frowned upon? Like when a person like Drake

688
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Speaker 1: status like today's find upon? Yeah, I mean I don't

689
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Speaker 1: know what you know what our click our crew was

690
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: was a community and it was everybody pitching whatever you

691
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Speaker 1: would say, I don't make his camp sweet team. But

692
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Speaker 1: what was the intention. The intention was to get the

693
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Speaker 1: people up and dance. You know what I'm saying. All

694
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Speaker 1: means necessary. So if you had a clever line or

695
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: something that's gonna accomplish sitting around and study what I'm saying,

696
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: we all have. It's a party in the studio. And

697
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Speaker 1: the thing I think about back then, you have the

698
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Speaker 1: juice crew. Yeah, I don't make his crew. You have

699
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Speaker 1: the boogie down. Everybody had these crews in the first

700
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Speaker 1: Lady of their cruise and all that stuff. But it

701
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Speaker 1: was a competition. Iron sharper than Iron. We all wanted

702
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: to be unique in own way. He was gonna do this,

703
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: gonna do that. So I think it was the intention.

704
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: I think the intention today is different. I don't think

705
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: it's the same agenda. You know, that's not a bad thing.

706
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Speaker 1: It's just and to me, I don't I don't. I

707
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with cats having ghost writing and

708
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: stuff like that, man, because you still gotta you still

709
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: gotta make it sound good. You know, guys, I don't

710
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: like taking steroids. You canna take. You still gonna work

711
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Speaker 1: out what's the question, what's the question behind what's the

712
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Speaker 1: different between the rapper and then see, Yeah, that's what

713
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Speaker 1: doves into that right there. If you seek you got

714
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Speaker 1: to be to write his own thing. But now that's

715
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Speaker 1: just one thing, brainstorming and loaning a line versus writing

716
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Speaker 1: the whole song. And I think the other person helped

717
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Speaker 1: set this straight was Ditty's line, don't worry about be

718
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Speaker 1: right right right checks you know what I'm saying. Well,

719
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Speaker 1: we had producers on there because d do and he

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Speaker 1: said he was. I think he was. He was being

721
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Speaker 1: a marriage he came in. So what happened was he

722
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Speaker 1: said that every artist stills. He said every artist stole

723
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Speaker 1: every single I said, not everybody. He said everybody. He

724
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Speaker 1: was very adamat looked and I was like, here, but

725
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not here as an artist. That I

726
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Speaker 1: got to remind us of all my hand as an artist.

727
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: I had to let people speak as a journalist. But

728
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Speaker 1: ras Cast was there too, a Rascast was like, yo,

729
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Speaker 1: be he was, we were not every artist has stole

730
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Speaker 1: it with that. But what I'm not going to allow

731
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Speaker 1: to you. As I posted that, I read my comments,

732
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Speaker 1: which I don't. I don't read my comments because I

733
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Speaker 1: could be saying, um, but this is the first time

734
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Speaker 1: I did read my comments, and a lot of people

735
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Speaker 1: were praying with him, everybody saying everybody's the way he

736
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Speaker 1: was saying I think it's a matter of semantics to

737
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Speaker 1: like he's saying, like if you if you borrow anything,

738
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Speaker 1: that's the way he's saying you. He's saying anything that

739
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, standing next to Big made jay Z better

740
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Speaker 1: and it made Jay which I think there's chats when

741
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Speaker 1: someone's between the wholesale because somebody really comedy, right, I

742
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: apologize for comedy. In comedy that is like almost standard,

743
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: like like almost standards to have a writer run around

744
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: with you. Well, not always stand but I mean, well,

745
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: look if you're if you're at super high levels, you know,

746
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: like Bill maher like having hard Yeah you you there's

747
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Speaker 1: no way one man can create working too Yeah yeah, Bill,

748
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Speaker 1: Bill Maherr has has has writers year round, you know

749
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, year around footnot I only the team show,

750
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: but when he does his live performances, so so they're

751
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: always giving him fresh new political stuff and whatnot. And

752
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: and Kevin and I'm sure the same way. He has

753
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: a real tight talented cruise. I mean, and and so

754
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's more like that of a show credits

755
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: with Eddie Murphy and you see how much and even

756
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: Robert Townsend, all of them, they will click, man, and

757
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: they all, here's something funny, and they just yea. It's

758
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: hard to create all that content by yourself. So what

759
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: happens is you're you're with people that are like minded,

760
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like good friends and stop

761
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: friends the Mooney with Richard pryor you know, good friends

762
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: of line like Joe Tommy Davidson. You know what I'm saying.

763
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: We all want to look that crazy this man, I mean,

764
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: be around all of them, man, just commedia. It's nothing serious.

765
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: Everything is a joke. And a lot of times what

766
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: happens this you you'll have a friend, you know, a

767
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: friend condic watch your set and watch something child. A

768
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: lot of times they'll give you what's called a note

769
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: like hey man, you know you know they joke you

770
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Speaker 1: do about the such and such at the end, why

771
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: don't you say you know? And saying it to make

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00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: it pop like a little bit more. And we've all

773
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: been of the mindset like, look, I don't I don't

774
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: care if it's funny. It's funny, I'll use it if

775
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna make a joke. That's my point in regards

776
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: to going back to writing lyrics back then, if it's

777
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: what it's gonna take to get the people to get

778
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: up and dance. It is that kind of line. Use

779
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: it that w you just said, nailed that, but use

780
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: a line that wasn't. This was my ghost riding hervey.

781
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,479
Speaker 1: I threw it a little man one of the days.

782
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: Not this idea for a dope jacket. Put this because

783
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: that big shout out to run law by the way.

784
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: But my thing was designing. My thing was just hanging

785
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: out with death longer than if he if he if

786
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: you saw our gear and you thought that, and you

787
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: thought that she was flying. That was It was like

788
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Speaker 1: the first designer, like the first like well, you know,

789
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: it's so funny because I remember having a meeting with

790
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: Andre Horrell and I was like, yo, let's create beats

791
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: and let this beat be a beat that represents four

792
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: play because that was the name of my joint. And

793
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: he play for play, and I had the clothing drink

794
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: for play because when DAP got caught up with that

795
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: whole Mitch Green and Tyson situation was a watch was

796
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: passed to me, so you know, all that good stuff.

797
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: And I still like this right now. But anyway, the

798
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: interesting thing wasn't about to lose. My train of thought

799
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Speaker 1: was the fact that all you're going to the new

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Speaker 1: it was stylist if um um. Yeah, it's like the thing,

801
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: but my thing. I really didn't lost his Hell yeah,

802
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: but I couldn't afford it when y'all was doing it.

803
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: But y'all was doing it up there all the time.

804
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: To do those pep of jackets, I had to live

805
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: there at that shop because you know, he had all

806
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: the Africans in the beast, but that wasn't known for

807
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: being on time with your gears. So her was like, yo, man,

808
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to just stay here all night whatever

809
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: because we had to get those jackets and the mural.

810
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: I did this on the back of that push. I

811
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: had to be on a plane to get them there out.

812
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: I think we did that in Florida to push it thing.

813
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: So technically you can see me on the side the

814
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Speaker 1: first puff daddy. Oh, I know what I was gonna say. Now.

815
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: The thing about it, Andre and I we were talking

816
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: about doing a thing with gear and he's like, play,

817
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: I really don't see that. Then you got Wu Tang

818
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: that did it? What was that? And he didn't see

819
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: the vision at the time. You know what he was

820
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: definitely ahead of Curb. He was definitely he had like

821
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Speaker 1: for example, when when Martin Lawrence was hosting Deaf Deaf

822
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Speaker 1: Commy jam back those first six first episodes, even when

823
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Speaker 1: it showing, you know, because you know, I did School

824
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Speaker 1: of Our Knocks Queen maybe in my partner at the time,

825
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Speaker 1: but School Knocks Jerry Bonds in Corona. We were partners

826
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Speaker 1: at the time. I did the designing. We had this

827
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: idea because African American college line, that allegic line Chris Yeah, yeah, yeah,

828
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Speaker 1: Chris Blackstick. So I said, you know, they get all

829
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Speaker 1: this thing about pe We're going to college, I'm gonna dropout.

830
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: We know the people they didn't finish school. We need

831
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: to come up with a line that represents those that

832
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: are still good even though you didn't go to school.

833
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: So we said school. We came with the idea on

834
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Speaker 1: the fifty Night Street Bridge and traffic going into Manhattan,

835
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: and I said School of Hard Knocks, and we came

836
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: up with the line of naming all the artists from

837
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: Queens and rapids. We knew they didn't finish school, and

838
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: that's how the thing blew up. And then things was

839
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Speaker 1: going on crazy in my life I want, and I

840
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Speaker 1: just gave it. I gave it to say just take

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Speaker 1: it because it's stressing, you know, like when not when

842
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Speaker 1: I when I because you know, I want to properly always,

843
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, introduce and you know, be in tune with

844
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: the artists. So one thing I though this is you're

845
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: a big glasses guy. I loved I collect glasses and watches.

846
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:58,959
Speaker 1: By the way, manasses. I think this is the havas. Okay,

847
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: all right, ain't got those his glass his glass almost

848
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: looking at them, almost like yo. One thing you can

849
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: tell a look at getting money. But the type of

850
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: glasses he got. The fisher, he had a bad cardiers.

851
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't find him. You know. I was like, y'all

852
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: this cardiers and I said, hold on, let me try

853
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: to find him. And I couldn't find him. I said,

854
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: he's a fisher. When I can't find your glasses, I

855
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: know you you dig deep. I'm a glasses guy. I

856
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: was so sorry. I was. I was much more of

857
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: a sneakerhead. I mean, I still I still have to

858
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: a certain okay you know what I'm saying, but not

859
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: like bringing the ponies out now. I shot one of

860
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: the one and hold someone just told me when ponies,

861
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: I remember someone just took stands for New York and

862
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: pony it's p O. It's an acronym. The N stands

863
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: for New York. And someone just told me in old

864
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: school play handball. Yeah yeah, So let me ask you

865
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: all the things from being a rapp But even though

866
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: you you you touched the comedian world, what made you

867
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna do the standard stand us boughted the

868
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: roughest of the comedian, like why wouldn't you go straight

869
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: to your HBO stand up special? Well, this is the thing, um,

870
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: A backstory is I was actually hosting a TV show,

871
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: a syndicated TV show called Your Big Break. It was

872
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: actually like the precursor remember, precursor to American Idol, Like

873
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, if you can sing, you know you you

874
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: sing a share song, but we're gonna put you in

875
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: one of share His gowns and dress up a set

876
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: all losing that right. So it was a show I showed.

877
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: I hosted for a year, um and but then I

878
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: got fired almost like yeah, I got fired. I got

879
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: I got fired from after the first year was the

880
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: Dick Clark Show, and they sent they fired me by

881
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: by letter and then I end up getting replaced by

882
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: Alfonso Ribero, right though, the only black guy whiter than me,

883
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: you know what. Right, So, so I was like out

884
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: of work. It was like it was like nine, you know,

885
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: I was. I was literally girls. You know, Joe's a

886
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: time release, right, so you know I was. I was,

887
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: you know, kidn't played. Was was cold at the time.

888
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was on the left coast,

889
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: he was, he was back east. I wasn't really I

890
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: wasn't really doing anything I need. I needed. I needed

891
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: a spark and with two good friends of mine, Tommy

892
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: Davidson and Bill Maher, that urged me to go in

893
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: to stand up. And actually Bill Moore brought me on

894
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: the Oprah Winfrey Show one of the first times I

895
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: ever did stand up because it was a show called

896
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: Funny People and who they Think are funny? So you

897
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: had dial, Hughesley brought on some more, John Stewart brought

898
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: on Lewis Black, and Bill Moore brought me on and said,

899
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: hey man, this is one of the funniest guys I know.

900
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: And that out a so that that's kind of how

901
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: I got started. But what I found out ultimately was

902
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: having been a rapper really helped prepare me for stand

903
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: up that well, it's well, first of all, you already

904
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 1: know where your way around the stage. I mean, any

905
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: comedian will tell you. Man, half the battle is just

906
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: feeling comfortable on stage and comfortable in front of strangers

907
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: and comfortable in front of fans. Man, we had already

908
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: done that. We would perform the front of hundreds of

909
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: thousands of people. You just got to make sure that

910
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: the maternity was tight. That it's unique to you and

911
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: to me. If you're talking about you know, Tommy, Tommy

912
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: and Bill mar you know, two of the greats, and

913
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: they literally kind of forced me. I mean if you

914
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: talk about if you talk about comedian idols, I mean,

915
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: you know everybody, the Richard proect. Tommy is one of

916
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: the He's so underrated. He's one of the greatest of

917
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: all times. And you know, we're a lot of like,

918
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, kind of manning and over you know what

919
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: I mean, real quick off the top and stuff like that.

920
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: So he was a great, great influence. And and you know,

921
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: and Bill, somebody as as great as Bill was behind that.

922
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: So um, it felt comfortable like almost off the rip.

923
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And what did you think

924
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: when you when when he said to you, I was

925
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: an interesting piece of news. He didn't come get at

926
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: me like yo playing I'm gonna do comedy. I just

927
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: heard he was doing comedy. I just know how much

928
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: he makes me laugh. I just hope it translated to

929
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: huge your audiences. But no, I was good with it.

930
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: I heard he was like Bigfoot. There were sightings of him.

931
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: He's here's this club, He's only did you see him on?

932
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: I did see um when he hosted that show you

933
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: know that? But I got a question. Do you anybody

934
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: remember when Will Smith tried to do stand up? Oh?

935
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't remember. It was like a word show about

936
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: bombing because he did a joke about it. Supposed Jesus

937
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: came out with sneakers and they were calling Jesus too.

938
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't never forget that man. But yeah,

939
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: the best of what kids doing his thing? But what

940
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: was your worst night? Wow? Alright, you're gonna love this one, right,

941
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: T King's gonna love this one because I died Royal Okay,

942
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: so I was in to rock Arkansas. It's gonna be Arkansas, right,

943
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton and I'm crushing it, dude. I'm crushing it

944
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: Thursday and crushing Friday, crushing it. And back then I

945
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: used to bring our DJ DJ Whiz I used to

946
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: bring in with me. You know, I almost like on

947
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: this kick of pre stuff. You know, play play up stuff.

948
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: We'll get to that later. Yeah, yeah, play play the

949
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: comedians on, playing me on whatever kind. So Whis would

950
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: come with me. So where's with me that weekend? So

951
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: I'm feeling myself, man, Saturday? Now, I said, Minimo, try

952
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: this brand new jaw. I'm feelings. I was watching TV

953
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: or in the room probably getting Yeah, I got cash

954
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: because I was doing so much exact I'm so um.

955
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 1: I said, all right, I'm gonna pick ups pick spot

956
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: right in the middle, so I'll come out. I'm crushing him.

957
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: So now is the time to do the bread new joke.

958
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: So I said, hey, man, mind you we're in Little Rock, Arkansas.

959
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: I said, Man, I was watching a TV today. Now,

960
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: I was watching this religious program. Man. I don't know

961
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: if you guys are into a boy bands at all,

962
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: but you know they got a relig just boy band out.

963
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: Man heard these guys man. Then their first record was

964
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: called Jesus he's so neat. They put nails through his

965
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: arms and nails through his feet, and I just laid

966
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: it like jail. So the very was like the and

967
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: the audience went silent, and I looked down now and

968
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: I can look. I looked out in the corner of

969
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 1: my eye, and I can see Whiz whis was down below.

970
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: Whiz looked at me and said, why did you do that?

971
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: We were we kill that. This is the words I

972
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: every week, and I never ever ever told that joke again.

973
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: I just tell you just to be a comedian. That's

974
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: how you have to learn. If the joke is good,

975
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: we can go that afternoon, I said, I'm winning with

976
00:52:51,440 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: this still silence. Oh now, now now it's like it's

977
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: like y'all lives had did at three sixty. Because in

978
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: the beginning, um, I think you self call yourself a

979
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: nerd or something like that, and then you were like

980
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: the cool kid. You were a street kid. You actually

981
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: wanted to pursue you know, the street like even more

982
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: than you remember back then when you went to jail

983
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: because your celebrity and the talk come out. You know

984
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That was a stupidity then, you know,

985
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: but your lives is like three sixty now because he

986
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: got something called kid in Blaze. What you want your

987
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: own joint or you don't know, I'm gonna because just

988
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: just just you know, doesn't doesn't work like where you

989
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: got something called kid in blade and you are actually

990
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: a born again Christian believer? Now, how did how did

991
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: that happen for you? For for people that just to

992
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: cut right to the chase? Man, when you just get

993
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: everything you want, did you think it's going to be fulfilling,

994
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 1: going to be happy? You know who my ex wife

995
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: is and homes and calls? Who at all of that

996
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: good stuff had y'all coming to America? Come on, mcdown,

997
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: Lisa McDowell. But when you have everything, I mean everything,

998
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I wanted to be you. He's

999
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: buying benches her, He's doing benches and BMW's and portions.

1000
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta go bigger than these cats. What

1001
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 1: do I Because it's like y'all do a Delorian what

1002
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I've got trying to be back to

1003
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: the feature of ships choosing a lot of money out life,

1004
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: yo yo yo. He was, he was doing the w

1005
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: and it just got to the point where it's like, yo,

1006
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: this isn't doing it. This is like I'm tormented. It's like,

1007
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: what more do I need to do? Whatever? And I'm

1008
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: seeing you gotta cross into that dark side type stuff.

1009
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: Now some people call a deal with naughty, making deals

1010
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: down to use IM so scared. I was like, damn.

1011
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta be kids. I did to

1012
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: come here because I smoke weed on every episode. So

1013
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: I was like, but then when you didn't decline and

1014
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: you just came, I said, damn, he's the You're the

1015
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: cool like turned over questions. But you know there's some

1016
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: people that take it too far. They'd be like, I

1017
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: mean I went through that stage too, Like what I'm

1018
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: dinant mean you know what I'm saying. You couldn't like

1019
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: he's Irish and Jamaican, like both of his side a

1020
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: little bit. You know what's interested in? We have a

1021
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: we have a relationship most don't have. It's like there

1022
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: was no casting call for a kid, there was no

1023
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: casting call for a play. We can finish each other's sentences.

1024
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: We can if I'm not able to be on the

1025
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: call for a business deal of vice versa. Just as

1026
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: long as we had a conversation about it right to

1027
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 1: We're good. So it's like, you know, it's just natural,

1028
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: it's organic type thing. I mean, it ain't perfect. We

1029
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 1: go we the odd company, you know what I'm saying,

1030
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: especially now, but it's like it's all good, and it's

1031
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: like for me, I just want people to beat them

1032
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: albs man, because that's where we gotta If it's gonna

1033
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: be any kind of change, you gotta start from that.

1034
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: It just can't be like trying to be something you're not.

1035
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: But spark it up man, Like yeah, um, they should

1036
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: let me know before you guys. One thing that I

1037
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: definitely want to know because and I was trying to

1038
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: bring it up before, is that when you guys did

1039
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: the movie stuff, if there's anything that artists could learn

1040
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: today the way you guys structured those situations that do

1041
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 1: you do you do you see something from those movies today?

1042
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean people you know, we might have

1043
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: took them for first, you got sixty and he got thirty. No,

1044
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: I got thirty, got I got dirty? I think because

1045
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: I literally knew we were like on on on the clock.

1046
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: So if I had a little more screen time than him,

1047
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,479
Speaker 1: that means I probably got paid like like a little

1048
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: bit more. But that was that was that top that

1049
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: out like thirty g s. Nobody was getting. Nobody got

1050
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: but but where they but where they didn't have an

1051
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: option for say Blue now we gotta stick you up.

1052
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 1: And I think it's because of our situation that a

1053
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: lot of companies said, no, we will never let that

1054
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: happen again. We are we want to make everything. If

1055
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: you do movies, your images right over these. They didn't

1056
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: have that with us, so and I think that that Fredmno,

1057
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: good friend, match Select Records, great guy, but he let

1058
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,479
Speaker 1: that slip through the cracks, and I think he kicks

1059
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: himself for not, you know, because no one thought whatever happened?

1060
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: But did you guys got production credits in the In

1061
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: the following films, it grew a lot of stuff grew

1062
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: eventually because the situations where people can learn from those situations. Yeah,

1063
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: I would say this. I would say this, the type

1064
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: of input that that we had and and thank thankfully

1065
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: that director, the directors and the producers gave us would

1066
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: be considered producing today, but were not. You described, Yeah,

1067
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: you know he's finding Bernie Man writing, you know, remaking

1068
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: the thing, you know, writing all the raps. But that's

1069
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: producing today, ain't that producing? So no, know what you're worth,

1070
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: Know what talents you're bringing to the table because a

1071
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: lot of the things that that we did and they

1072
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: took for granted. Look it all came out and and

1073
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,959
Speaker 1: thirty years later we still here, you know, doing our things.

1074
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: But just know exactly what these the details are of

1075
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: what you're expected because that, yeah, what we were doing

1076
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: back then, that's that's production about that. Want to ask

1077
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: him about now when y'all did that's DJ? What y'all

1078
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: did that Martin? Um? Um he did. He was a

1079
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: DJ for Martin's death jam thing but prior to that.

1080
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: But when it goes more hear you did the thing.

1081
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: But that's kicking reason why when it goes no, no, no,

1082
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: let me tell you what happened. We did a couple

1083
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: of different verses. The one like the first couple of years,

1084
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: that's me sounded like capri, that's me, gonna mind you

1085
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: know I came there to do it. Now, Yeah, yeah,

1086
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: that was me, And I apologize comp I should have

1087
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, I should have called to up. But that's

1088
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: what but that's what but then don't But it's like

1089
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: finding out But let me tell you what happened. You know, honestly,

1090
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: out of respect for Caprix, I didn't. I didn't. I

1091
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: didn't sample him. We didn't sample him off the top,

1092
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: so and I knew I could imitate it. And second

1093
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: but then like after the second year, I was like, name,

1094
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: just want to go go, go puck a free voice.

1095
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: So that's probably when you were probably every one of

1096
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: them season when we just slipped them back in there. Man,

1097
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: so jet separation with because that's how dude first tour.

1098
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: He'll tell you this that he ever ever did was

1099
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: with us, ever ever did, because it was the time

1100
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: we said, yo, I wanted to DJs WHI and we

1101
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: tell abody living up to crowd the whole nine. But

1102
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: the only thing about him he refused to fly. Yeah,

1103
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: he's the John Madden of DJs. That's so much. DJ

1104
00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: College was like that, that's flying out right. I was tempted,

1105
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: But I don't think me being a part of the story,

1106
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: me being a part of a group, right, even though

1107
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: even though it's it's too us right, I'm componing Oriegi.

1108
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: You guys a kid and play. It's kind of hard

1109
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: to stick stick together when you grow apart. But you,

1110
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: you're still the same kids that you remember, Like how

1111
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: what is the worst worst part of kids? And play

1112
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: as your relationship as famous people because you're our friends.

1113
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: Prior to that, I think there's only there's only want

1114
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: to think of one. But that's not bad. It's not bad.

1115
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: I don't be talking about the airport. What happened to

1116
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: the airport? I think separate sep. I'm thinking about the

1117
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: time because if you were look at some of the

1118
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: times we started blowing up. We started doing interviews on

1119
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, Fish Fight Coming Down and BT shows and

1120
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and all of a sudden, this guy

1121
01:00:55,240 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: starts wearing like he's right now dark shades. Everybody and

1122
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: the crew was like, yeah, we're over kid in the

1123
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: dark ship and you know, even in the light. You

1124
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: know what you said, that was a little odd. It

1125
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: was like a sign of black, like he was going on, Hollywood,

1126
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: you forgot this, this what happened we were flying back.

1127
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: I think that's what you're saying. Well in AFOL he

1128
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: was liked be like, yo, maybe that should look back

1129
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, we're off, and it was like,

1130
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to share a thing with him,

1131
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: nor get like that. But it's like, dude, which you

1132
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: forgot distress. That's what has When he was flying back

1133
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: to New York, I think from Los Angeles, man of

1134
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: fact and Jeff Christie was with a shout out to

1135
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: Jeff Christie and for something man I felt with a

1136
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: specific specific thing was but we know we was, we was,

1137
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: we were butting hands. I think we were waiting on

1138
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: the car and the car was coming and you said

1139
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: you gotta go here, and then this and that and

1140
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You don't remember we got

1141
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: into it and then and then you know, we had

1142
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: to get separated by Jeff Christie and you remember they

1143
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: were they were like fans like, oh my god, can

1144
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: you play your face? You don't believe that the black

1145
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: down that was like only time I could think of

1146
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: that was like a million freaking years ago. Yeah. But

1147
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: let me to tell you something. Let me ask you

1148
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: all a question, Right, do you realize how famous y'all? All?

1149
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: Though I don't, you don't And I'm just I'm not

1150
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: telling you. I'm not telling you what I think you

1151
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: want to hear. I really don't. And I'm kind of

1152
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: glad for that because you know, get the ego and

1153
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: all of that kind of stuff like that. But as

1154
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: just now, kind of recently, like last night, I was

1155
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: at the Black X, I mean Radio one b Expo,

1156
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: shoutout to Charisse Ma Malachi, and I did what I

1157
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: had to do, premiering a documentary about dancers and hip

1158
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: hop and all, and I go to hang out and

1159
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: the guy grabbed me in a yoke and won't let

1160
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: me go for like three minutes. It's Alan Iverson's just

1161
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: talking about how much an influence of my character men

1162
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: on him on being cool, and then other people in

1163
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,919
Speaker 1: the business just coming going y'all. And it's funny because

1164
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: back then cats wouldn't tell you that, you know how

1165
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: we all did. And now as we gotten older and

1166
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: humble and appreciate life more, we come up to each

1167
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: other and say, Yo, you need to know what this

1168
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: meant to me. You know what I'm saying. So now

1169
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm beginning to get it. Like I wasn't big on

1170
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: legend and icon and all that stuff. People, I tell

1171
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: him that I'm still working on it. Definitely pioneers, but

1172
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: like last night, I'm with Grandmaster Casts, and I'm with

1173
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: Cast that's living legend. But That's what drink champters about.

1174
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: And I just want to reiterate that that's that's what

1175
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: I saw that there was a lack of I feel

1176
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: like when the person when a person has ten, twelve,

1177
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: fifteen years in this game, we write them all as

1178
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: opposed to with rock and roll and and just celebrate them.

1179
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: They celebrate them, and I think all culture has to

1180
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: change change that. That's why a lot of people come

1181
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: to me and they want me to interview new artists

1182
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: about this artists because I just want to. I feel

1183
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: like they got the regular ratings about this industry. Man

1184
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: is one where ages m because you don't do it

1185
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: at the colors, you know, John, But when it comes

1186
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: to this, it's like wow, like really and it should

1187
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: be already in ages and doesn't go together to your point.

1188
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: I look, you know the young rappers they rolled upon

1189
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: us and they show us mad love if he either

1190
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: where if we're together or he's aout. All of them

1191
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: got me and they love and we appreciate it because

1192
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: but I just try to We just try to tell

1193
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: them to say, hey, man, we are are you know,

1194
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: our participation, you know, you know our work is kind

1195
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: of done, you know, we're either yeah, we're on that

1196
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: wall to whever you you know, wherever you want to

1197
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: put us. Now you got the ball, you got the bag,

1198
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: Now you got the football. What you're gonna do with

1199
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna fumbling at the one or you untill gonna

1200
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: bears said. Okay, you said something that just bother me.

1201
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: You just said they don't have to and the thing

1202
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: about it as Kid, that's that's something that we got

1203
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: to take out of the culture. I think they should

1204
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: have to. I think that if if if a person

1205
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 1: is a two man group and a person has not

1206
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: reached the accomplishment of accolades, I think they should they

1207
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: should be asking you the time to throw the roses

1208
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: at your feet with time. We really got a guy

1209
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: for the show, is going for the show because we

1210
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: got you. I want to take this time personally on

1211
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: behalf of Kid and I to thank you because you're

1212
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: going through some things, you know how it goes in

1213
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: this joint of course, and I'm hearing this thing about

1214
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: Nori and his podcast, and I didn't know the name

1215
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: of it, but this thing has become the talk man.

1216
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean on some breakfast club maybe hind all this

1217
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: and congratulations to y'all too really and you don't let

1218
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: no you look good. Seriously, man, we want because we

1219
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: just realized that this is the last thing. We realized

1220
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: that hip hop has to have a platform to salute

1221
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: hip hop. You know what I'm saying at the end

1222
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: of the day, like our culture has to continue. And

1223
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: the older we get in this game, it should be

1224
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: like the tribes in Africa. The older you get, the

1225
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: more the more revere should you should be throwing. So

1226
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: you know, I know, we gotta rush because you guys

1227
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: are doing today. You got to make some noos. Motherfucker

1228
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: kids were quick jo. We love, we love, we love

1229
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: watching y'all. Advice to shout out to week no not

1230
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: big shout out man, we love, we love the show.

1231
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: Keep doing what you're doing now that we get to

1232
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: talk to you about it, and really they need to

1233
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: the whole mindset behind it, and it's perfect is right

1234
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: on time you're teaching the children, that's right anytime. So

1235
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: we just get to a pictures Thank you so much

1236
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: if you're apologize, okay, yeah, picture picture picture first. Who

1237
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: are you up? Dre Okay,