Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my trusted colleague
Speaker 1: West Hodkowitz. Were coming to you here from our studios
Speaker 1: at lambeau Field, fresh off a weekend West that definitely
Speaker 1: put the wild in wild Card. That was some quartet
Speaker 1: of games. The up shot for the Packers, of course,
Speaker 1: is that with the Vikings knocking off the Saints and
Speaker 1: then the Seahawks beating the Eagles, that sets up Seattle
Speaker 1: coming to lambeau Field next Sunday for the divisional round
Speaker 1: five pm Central Time. But as far as these four
Speaker 1: wild card games go, where do you want to start? Well,
Speaker 1: first off, I want to start with up shot. I
Speaker 1: gotta find a way to work that into my writing.
Speaker 1: I like that up shot. I'm gonna find a way
Speaker 1: to get one of my stories this week. So I
Speaker 1: basically watched every single one of these games, uh for
Speaker 1: you know, basically beginning to end the entire way. My
Speaker 1: number one takeaway was that crowd out there that's like, hey, you,
Speaker 1: if you play in the wild card round, you can
Speaker 1: build momentum for the playoffs. Those were four ten twelve
Speaker 1: round slug fests in all of those games. If one
Speaker 1: of these teams, whether it be the Texans, Titans, Vikings,
Speaker 1: or Seahawks, end up going on a Super Bowl run,
Speaker 1: my hat goes off to them. But they all I
Speaker 1: thought left a piece of themselves on those fields because
Speaker 1: of how tightly contested, especially the first three were um
Speaker 1: and then certainly the Eagles always being within scoring range
Speaker 1: of the Seattle Seahawks. I did say, I just want
Speaker 1: to put this out there. I'm not trying to pat
Speaker 1: myself on the back. What happened in the Titans game
Speaker 1: is what played out. If you would have told me
Speaker 1: over under on thirty carries for Derrick Henry in that game,
Speaker 1: I would have said over if the Titans were gonna
Speaker 1: have a chance to win this game, they played did
Speaker 1: their strengths, the New England defense that have been so
Speaker 1: stout all year long, they just did not have an
Speaker 1: answer for trying to get down within three yards of
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, and you know the Patriots, you know,
Speaker 1: get get bounced from the playoffs. I thought the Texans
Speaker 1: showed a lot of adversity and grit to be able
Speaker 1: to push through that game against the Bills, especially coming
Speaker 1: on in the second half the way they came on
Speaker 1: in the Minnesota Vikings. Folks, I know there's a lot
Speaker 1: of Packer fans that you know, some might have been
Speaker 1: cheering for him because they wanted the Saints out of
Speaker 1: the playoffs. The other half might have been cheering against
Speaker 1: him because their Minnesota Vikings. But that team, when Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cook is playing, is a different football team. And he
Speaker 1: was healthy, he was arrested, and he made his presence
Speaker 1: felt against the seat or against the New Orleans Saints
Speaker 1: team that just couldn't get its run game going. Well.
Speaker 1: I think that's the game that obviously interest Packers fans
Speaker 1: the most, is the Vikings going into the super Dome
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. And I said last week, the Vikings
Speaker 1: gave themselves a week off. They gave they took Week
Speaker 1: seventeen when they had nothing to play for. They gave
Speaker 1: themselves a chance to regroup and to reset. You said it,
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook is back. The other game is back is
Speaker 1: Adam Thealen Because we saw even though he played in
Speaker 1: Week sixteen, the Monday night game against the Packers, Adam
Speaker 1: Theland still wasn't really back to his old self. You
Speaker 1: could tell by the way he was running routes and whatnot,
Speaker 1: and that wide receiver he comes back from the fumble
Speaker 1: on the game's opening possession. Yeah. Absolutely, and then he
Speaker 1: got called for like a very questionable I thought holding
Speaker 1: call that wiped out a nice run for the Vikings.
Speaker 1: Things were not looking good for Adam Theland early in
Speaker 1: the game, and then he just made clutch play after
Speaker 1: clutch play as this game evolved, and then he's the
Speaker 1: guy who makes the big catch deep down the field
Speaker 1: in overtime. I thought, what the Vikings showed. I agree
Speaker 1: with you. I think all these teams that won these
Speaker 1: twelve round bouts they had left something of themselves on
Speaker 1: those fields. But I gotta tip my hat to the
Speaker 1: Vikings because Mike Zimmer even said last week, Hey, nobody
Speaker 1: gives us a chance to win this game. And the
Speaker 1: one thing that I thought over anything else that gave
Speaker 1: the Vikings a chance answers that they essentially were taking
Speaker 1: a bye week into the playoffs. They got a chance
Speaker 1: to rest and reset their guys, and I think that
Speaker 1: made a huge difference because they had to withstand a
Speaker 1: big Saints charge in the fourth quarter. They did. The
Speaker 1: game goes to overtime, and then on the opening possession
Speaker 1: of overtime, they didn't let Drew Brees get the ball back.
Speaker 1: So a couple of things here. The first thing, if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna point out that the Titans end up doing
Speaker 1: what I thought they were going to do against the Patriots,
Speaker 1: I have to point out that I was wrong about
Speaker 1: the vikings, and that is that I thought Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 1: coming off of that performance that he had against Green Bay,
Speaker 1: he would need to play. He needed to be able
Speaker 1: to get that that tune up fight to be able
Speaker 1: to feel good about himself again. And let's be honest, Mike,
Speaker 1: even if he would have played against the Bears, and
Speaker 1: even if you have played well again, as I said
Speaker 1: in my preamble here, the team is just different when
Speaker 1: Delvin Cook's playing, when Madison is playing in that backfield
Speaker 1: is moving the ball the way they are. And that's
Speaker 1: not to say that Kirk Cousins doesn't matter. There were
Speaker 1: certain parts of that game him where he made some
Speaker 1: pretty clutch throws that that helped them get that win.
Speaker 1: But Delvin Cook is the steam engine that drives this
Speaker 1: team and drives this offense, and I thought that was
Speaker 1: arguably the best performance I've seen from the Vikings defense
Speaker 1: this entire season with how they were able to You know,
Speaker 1: there was some trickeration there that they had to weather
Speaker 1: with Taysom Hill, but you know, as much emphasis and
Speaker 1: I know Taysom Hill is really fun to talk about.
Speaker 1: The New Orleans Saints aren't thirteen and three because of
Speaker 1: here's all the cool stuff that Taysom Hill can do.
Speaker 1: Their thirteen and three because of Michael Thomas, because of
Speaker 1: Drew Brees and Teddy Bridgewater, Uh, you know, and then
Speaker 1: obviously the biggest one being Alvin Kamara. None of that
Speaker 1: was going for them in this game. Thomas had seven
Speaker 1: catches for seventy yards, but wasn't the impact player you've
Speaker 1: really grown accustom to him being. And Alvin Kamara, I
Speaker 1: actually thought that was kind of a disservice that they
Speaker 1: did him by not getting him the ball. More. It's
Speaker 1: fun to get Taysom Hill out there. He made some
Speaker 1: cool plays, but I think it's some part of that
Speaker 1: game they sort of lost what their identity was and
Speaker 1: despite being at them, they couldn't find it. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: I thought Minnesota's defense really was impressive, especially when you
Speaker 1: look at the first half. The Saints go into halftime
Speaker 1: with ten points, but the only significant play they made
Speaker 1: on offense was Taysom Hill throwing the deep pass down
Speaker 1: the field to to set up the one touchdown him
Speaker 1: the field goal right and the fumble gave the field
Speaker 1: goal early on where the Vikings defense rose up in
Speaker 1: the red zone to get that to get that stop.
Speaker 1: Drew Brees definitely was was finding some things and finding
Speaker 1: a rhythm in the fourth quarter, but then obviously the
Speaker 1: Vikings made the big play to disrupt that rhythm with
Speaker 1: the sack fumble when the Saints had just gotten to
Speaker 1: the twenty yard line. They were down three at that point,
Speaker 1: but there was the amount of time on the clock.
Speaker 1: You're thinking, boy, they go in and get a touchdown
Speaker 1: here they go up four, and then they really kind
Speaker 1: of turned the screws on Cousin to say you have
Speaker 1: to respond. The Vikings get the turn over there, and
Speaker 1: then when the Saints got their last chance, they really
Speaker 1: only had time to get into position to kick the
Speaker 1: field goal and get get it to overtime. So that turnover,
Speaker 1: that red zone turnover by by Breeze, I thought was huge,
Speaker 1: But I have to ask you because it's what everybody's
Speaker 1: talking about. Of course, in the overtime the touchdown passed
Speaker 1: to Kyle Rudolph, it was reviewed very quickly for potential
Speaker 1: offensive past interference on Rudolph pushing off on the defender.
Speaker 1: Would you think I thought he pushed off obviously, and
Speaker 1: he's a bigger say, I mean, you're six ft six,
Speaker 1: six ft five tight end going up against the defensive back.
Speaker 1: You're going to have that advantage. Was it egregious? No?
Speaker 1: But I thought it was a push off. Now that
Speaker 1: all that being said, this everybody holding their breath afterwards
Speaker 1: to see if New York was going to review this.
Speaker 1: We've watched this movie several times now, and I get
Speaker 1: the Superdome was incredulous and they were upset, and they've
Speaker 1: had a lot, They've had three straight years of losing
Speaker 1: on the final play of the game. So to throw
Speaker 1: the garbage, I can't. I can't excuse that. But to
Speaker 1: to be surprised it wasn't called and then it wasn't reviewed,
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, we know this by now. One
Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna disagree with. I was watching one of
Speaker 1: the pregame shows, or when it was the postgame show.
Speaker 1: I think it was on Fox, and I think it
Speaker 1: was Jimmy Johnson. If I'm wrong on this, excuse me,
Speaker 1: But Jimmy Johnson or somebody had said, you know, be
Speaker 1: better that the officiating doesn't matter. I actually don't agree
Speaker 1: with that. This game. That's that that that's a tough
Speaker 1: take to swallow. There's a Division One football subdivision teams.
Speaker 1: This isn't Alabama laying a stinker against you know, Louisiana
Speaker 1: Monroe or something like that. All these teams there's You're
Speaker 1: gonna get tightly contested games. There's just not going to
Speaker 1: be blowouts. It's just not the way when you get
Speaker 1: to the very cream of the crop, it's not gonna
Speaker 1: work out that way. The officiating needs to be on
Speaker 1: par with that, and it needs to be officiated the
Speaker 1: way the rules are intended for them to be officiated,
Speaker 1: whether or not they like it or not. That is
Speaker 1: the rules this season, Mike and I have I can't
Speaker 1: tell you any other time in NFL history where I
Speaker 1: can remember an amendment being made to the rule book
Speaker 1: and then in that first season just a total, like
Speaker 1: since the very beginning, just a total ignoring, ignoring of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is what I'll tell you, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've read my inside or Inbox column from this morning yet.
Speaker 1: If you haven't, that's okay. We just got we just
Speaker 1: got to work. Um. But I'm going to reiterate what
Speaker 1: I said there because to me, to me, what defined
Speaker 1: the decision is what nobody's really talking about, or at
Speaker 1: least it wasn't part of the explanation from the league.
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is the Saints defender
Speaker 1: never turned around, never turned his head, was not playing
Speaker 1: the ball, was only playing the man. And if you extrapolate,
Speaker 1: you know, look at this from the bigger picture, sinse
Speaker 1: a defender who never turns his head and makes contact
Speaker 1: with the offensive guy some sort of restrictive contact, he's
Speaker 1: going to get the dp I flag every time. Right.
Speaker 1: So I think there's a I think there's a there's
Speaker 1: a natural transition here to say, well, we're not going
Speaker 1: to bail out a defensive player who doesn't turn his
Speaker 1: head just because the offensive guy made some contact, right.
Speaker 1: I think if the Saints defender, and I apologize for
Speaker 1: forgetting exactly who it was, but if he turns his
Speaker 1: head in any way and Rudolph shove is into his
Speaker 1: say his shoulder or into his back. Then I think
Speaker 1: there's a there's a decent chance maybe that that offensive
Speaker 1: past interference flag falls. But because he had his back
Speaker 1: to the play the whole time, he never knew where
Speaker 1: the ball was. I think I think New York just
Speaker 1: said we're not going to bail that guy out. That's
Speaker 1: just that's that's my opinion. Do you think that was
Speaker 1: actually their justification for it? I wonder that. I think
Speaker 1: you make a really good point, and I think it's
Speaker 1: very astute. I think curious that they actually thought that
Speaker 1: within the thirty five seconds wherever that they made that
Speaker 1: decision what I I don't I don't know that, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would necessarily speculate that. But
Speaker 1: but I think my overall point is that I think obliminally, subconsciously,
Speaker 1: just looking at how the defender was defending the play,
Speaker 1: they're not interested, you know, They're they're they're like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, he he wasn't making the play on the ball,
Speaker 1: you know, So that to me, to me, I think
Speaker 1: that played into the decision, whether whether it was verbalized,
Speaker 1: whether it was actually processed mentally that way in the
Speaker 1: thirty five seconds, as you said, I don't really know,
Speaker 1: but but just based on the way these calls are made,
Speaker 1: I think that was part of I think that's a
Speaker 1: heck of an answer. I think that's a really good
Speaker 1: theory that you have. I really wish somebody would have
Speaker 1: told the New York Office, hey, let's go with that,
Speaker 1: because there's a real part of it. There's a big
Speaker 1: part of me that still doesn't even believe they thought
Speaker 1: on that level. But no, and and and you and you.
Speaker 1: Maybe you may be absolutely right and I'm not right,
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to I'm not going to disagree
Speaker 1: with that. The other thing I will say because another
Speaker 1: one of my initial thoughts right when had happened. Kevin Seaffert,
Speaker 1: who we know from SPN dot com and he was
Speaker 1: a Vikings beat reporter for a long time. He's now
Speaker 1: a national writer and he's he's covered these officiating issues
Speaker 1: over the years for ESPN. He's done an outstanding job.
Speaker 1: And I was following his Twitter account yesterday during you know,
Speaker 1: throughout really throughout the weekend with the playoffs, and he
Speaker 1: brought up right after basically as that was going to
Speaker 1: review that in the first two weeks of the season,
Speaker 1: an offensive past interference flag was dropped from New York
Speaker 1: off of a review three times. One of those was
Speaker 1: at Lambeufield Packers against the Vikings. We all know that
Speaker 1: took a touched on away from Minnesota after week two,
Speaker 1: which is when we know everything changed and how they
Speaker 1: were looking at this stuff. An offensive past interference flag
Speaker 1: was dropped from New York once the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: So what do you think. I mean, the odds just
Speaker 1: weren't that good to begin with, that they were gonna
Speaker 1: that they were going to overturn that touchdown with offensive
Speaker 1: past interference. And then my additional point is the fact
Speaker 1: that the defender was playing the play the way he
Speaker 1: was did not certainly did not increase New Orleans odds
Speaker 1: at all of getting that call. That's that's kind of
Speaker 1: where I stand. We'll move because I want to talk
Speaker 1: about Seattle here, but I want to ask you this question.
Speaker 1: Have you ever driven an old car before? I'm an
Speaker 1: old car driver. I've never actually bought a new car.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever been through this. Sometimes
Speaker 1: when the check engine light goes on, you bring it
Speaker 1: into the shop. Sometimes you just admit defeat and you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ride this thing out until it doesn't.
Speaker 1: I really believe that's where it got to this season.
Speaker 1: Just let it stay on, get through the year. We'll
Speaker 1: bring it to the shop and try to figure it
Speaker 1: out in March. But maybe at this point it's an
Speaker 1: incredible thing that Kevin points out that there would be
Speaker 1: that many because that flag against green Bay or for
Speaker 1: green Bay, that would never right. Exactly, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: It happened three times in the first two weeks of
Speaker 1: the season, and starting Week three through the end of
Speaker 1: the regular season, only once did they throw on offensive
Speaker 1: passe in reference flag from New York. So I think
Speaker 1: that's important to keep in mind as far as the
Speaker 1: context of how all this evolved. But the Seattle Seahawks
Speaker 1: West are coming to lambeau Field. It will be the
Speaker 1: fourth postseason meeting between the two teams. The Packers won
Speaker 1: the two thousand and three NFC Wild Card Game on
Speaker 1: the Al Harris pick six in overtime. The Packers won
Speaker 1: the two thousand seven NFC Divisional Game, the Snow Globe
Speaker 1: Game with Ryan Grant and the two hundred plus rushing
Speaker 1: yards and three rushing touchdowns, and then of course the
Speaker 1: Seahawks won the two thousand fourteen NFC title game and
Speaker 1: overtime with the big fourth quarter comeback. So there's a
Speaker 1: lot of playoff history here between these two teams and
Speaker 1: a lot of drama, a lot of bad feelings of course,
Speaker 1: certainly with what happened five years ago, and then you
Speaker 1: throw in the failed Mary from seven years ago and
Speaker 1: everything else that goes along with it. But um, but boy,
Speaker 1: this is uh. It's gonna be one heck of a matchup.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great, it's gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: I think there's enough storylines going into this that ultimately
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna really propel this to be in the
Speaker 1: marquee matchup the divisional round of the playoffs, and I'm
Speaker 1: excited for it. Kind Of like I said last week,
Speaker 1: with New Orleans and Minnesota, where they sort of became
Speaker 1: honorary division rivals, that's kind of basically where Seattle and
Speaker 1: Green Bay is, uh, in terms of just they've seen
Speaker 1: each other so often over the years, regular season, postseason,
Speaker 1: what what have you? And for I have so much
Speaker 1: respect for John Snyder, Pete Carroll, what they've built in
Speaker 1: Seattle and how they've been able to sustain it. So
Speaker 1: much of it reminds me of the Ted Thompson approach.
Speaker 1: I know the front office structure is a little bit
Speaker 1: different than what Green Bays was, but you know, draft
Speaker 1: and develop and when there's holes, fill it in. And
Speaker 1: they did that this year with Jadeveon Clowney coming in
Speaker 1: and you saw the impact he had on that game.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think there's a lot of parallels
Speaker 1: you can draw between the way he plays and how
Speaker 1: he's utilizing what the Packers are doing with sa Darius
Speaker 1: Smith right now. But like the very beginning, how it
Speaker 1: always has come down to when the chips are down
Speaker 1: and your top three running backs are injured. They lost
Speaker 1: their tight end that was pretty good early in the season.
Speaker 1: It needs to be back on Russell Wilson, and in
Speaker 1: a game in which both teams were incredibly banged up,
Speaker 1: uh Philadelphia almost historically so goodness, Russell Wilson put the
Speaker 1: game in his hands and they won the game because
Speaker 1: of Russell Wilson. Now the last few weeks, so I
Speaker 1: think that's a big supreme challenge for them. But you
Speaker 1: look at it, it's a really interesting dichotomy. They're right
Speaker 1: where Seattle was down all of its running backs. Philadelphia
Speaker 1: was down all of its receivers. You put those two
Speaker 1: teams together, you might have a pretty good skill position.
Speaker 1: But they leaned on DK Metcalf, they leaned on Tyler Lockett.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fantastic matchup here at Lambolefield on Sunday. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a couple of other questions
Speaker 1: with regards to that Eagles Seahawks game in just a minute.
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Speaker 1: what do you think? I didn't like it? I see
Speaker 1: why it wasn't hauled. Um. The reason I didn't like
Speaker 1: it is I think there's a I understood the poor
Speaker 1: report in that Wins didn't give himself up, but there's
Speaker 1: still certain protections that you are allowed as a runner,
Speaker 1: regardless of what your position is, and I don't feel
Speaker 1: like he properly received those on that play. I can't
Speaker 1: get into jadeveon Clowney's head. I don't know why he
Speaker 1: really high to the body. I get the idea that
Speaker 1: he had to make sure that that guy was down,
Speaker 1: but Carson Wentz was fairly defenseless at that point in time.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it was a concussion. It could have
Speaker 1: been much worse with where his face mask hit. You
Speaker 1: think about the cervical issues that players have had in
Speaker 1: this league. I did not like it. Um I thought
Speaker 1: it was it's a bang bang play. Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a bang bang play. What I didn't
Speaker 1: like about it at all was that when you look
Speaker 1: at it, and I realized when you see it in
Speaker 1: slow motion, you know, everything is magnified. But it just
Speaker 1: it looked like Clowney was com leading with the helmet.
Speaker 1: There was There was nothing as far as reaching out
Speaker 1: with the arms to try to make a grab or
Speaker 1: lowering the shoulder to make a hit. It was nothing
Speaker 1: like that. It was all. It was all about the helmet,
Speaker 1: and that's exactly the type of hit that they're supposed
Speaker 1: to be legislating out of out of the game. And unfortunately,
Speaker 1: UM I hope, certainly hope Carson Wentz is going to
Speaker 1: be okay, But unfortunately that hit had a major impact
Speaker 1: on a playoff game. Yeah, in a court of law,
Speaker 1: I think you can make the argument that Clowney was
Speaker 1: trying to get a shoulder in there. But even let's
Speaker 1: say that that is the best case scenario and all this,
Speaker 1: I still don't like hitting a player that high on
Speaker 1: his body when he's compromised in that position. I just
Speaker 1: think there's so many other ways that you could approach
Speaker 1: that you could have tried with the angle that he
Speaker 1: took on him. You could have went over his body.
Speaker 1: You could have just tried to lead with the hands.
Speaker 1: But the facts as they are, it did not look good.
Speaker 1: It looked like a helmet leading another guy's helmet directly
Speaker 1: into the turf. In two thousand nineteen, that's just not
Speaker 1: going to play again. You know, I'll sit here and
Speaker 1: I'll criticize officiating and that one. You gotta see it
Speaker 1: because it's there and then it's over and there's no
Speaker 1: replay of it. So obviously they felt like it was
Speaker 1: just a a you know, a normal play. Wentz gets
Speaker 1: back up, if he stays down, maybe things get affected
Speaker 1: a little bit, but yeah, not not a good look.
Speaker 1: And um, yeah, it was, in my opinion, a regrettable
Speaker 1: moment of that football. Otherwise really good football game. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll reiterate what I've been saying for years that if
Speaker 1: the league had just decided to make all these safety
Speaker 1: rules reviewable by replay, we could have a little bit
Speaker 1: more I think, just decisions that are made on on
Speaker 1: these type because you, like you just said, they have
Speaker 1: to call it, they have to call it in real time.
Speaker 1: It's a bang bang play. I get it. It's not
Speaker 1: easy to do. I'm not saying that it's an easy
Speaker 1: call to make on replay. I think you get a
Speaker 1: little bit better look at exactly what happened. But the
Speaker 1: league has never shown any interest in in actually reviewing
Speaker 1: any of the safety Yeah, and I mean that's one
Speaker 1: of the things I think the NFL and a lot
Speaker 1: of professional leagues are struggling with its entertainment. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: with with you obviously with Clowney. As we've been discussing
Speaker 1: here the hit aside. And this is taking nothing away
Speaker 1: from Bobby Wagner and kJ Wright and whatever, but if
Speaker 1: you're going to put a bull's eye on somebody from
Speaker 1: the Packers offensive perspective, that you gotta get blocked. I mean,
Speaker 1: comes Sunday afternoon, Sunday evening at lambeau Field. Jadeveon Clowney
Speaker 1: is the guy who can just wreck your game. I
Speaker 1: mean the Seahawks, in my opinion, they are They are
Speaker 1: in this position primarily because of what Jadeveon Clowney did
Speaker 1: in San Francisco and that Monday night game that was
Speaker 1: such a huge win for Seattle that set them up
Speaker 1: to be in this position in the first place. And uh,
Speaker 1: Clowney is going to be a big topic of conversation
Speaker 1: throughout this week. I can't really figure out with Seattle
Speaker 1: why they've never really been able to like quote unquote
Speaker 1: draft pass rushers like edge rushers. Yeah, they always get
Speaker 1: them from they always get them from other places. John
Speaker 1: Snyder has probably done as well of a job as
Speaker 1: anyone over the last decade of finding edge rushers, often
Speaker 1: at a modest price, that they bring in and make
Speaker 1: an impact in this defense. And Clowney is the most
Speaker 1: recent one of that and certainly I think earning himself
Speaker 1: a lot of money this offseason. Uh. The other thing too,
Speaker 1: I just want to put this out there because I
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw the postgame comments, but man,
Speaker 1: Josh McCown. I mean, if you ever Josh McCown's career
Speaker 1: here and the next whenever it ends, maybe it's this offseason,
Speaker 1: Josh McCown will not go down as the most talented
Speaker 1: quarterback in NFL history. But man, oh man, if that
Speaker 1: guy hasn't one gotten every single ounce of ability out
Speaker 1: of him his body in terms of what he's accomplished
Speaker 1: and too, I don't know, it gets thrown around so much,
Speaker 1: and it's such a big cliche of oh, they wanted
Speaker 1: more and how much do you? I don't know if
Speaker 1: I've ever seen anyone who wants it more than Josh McCown.
Speaker 1: His mentality, his approach, um, I mean, he's out there
Speaker 1: just completely spent after that game, in a game in
Speaker 1: which he started on the sidelines, and as they mentioned,
Speaker 1: even during the and he was limping around on one
Speaker 1: leg there in the fourth quarter too. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: exactly what he was dealing with, and they did clearly
Speaker 1: trying He's trying to scramble and get away from pass
Speaker 1: rushers and he wasn't even and he's forty years old
Speaker 1: on top of all that, and it's Sudfield was inactive,
Speaker 1: so I mean he was the quarterback from that point on.
Speaker 1: It was tough watching him scramble out there of just
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch. He tried to make
Speaker 1: that thing happen. Unfortunately for the Eagles, much like the
Speaker 1: first batch, they just couldn't get in the end zone.
Speaker 1: And that's gonna be the challenge for Green Bay next
Speaker 1: week is You're probably gonna be able of intervals where
Speaker 1: you get yards on Seattle, but can you finish it?
Speaker 1: Can you be that top ranked red zone offense that
Speaker 1: they've been all season? Yeah? Well, we'll be talking about
Speaker 1: a lot of these matchups, a lot of these statistics
Speaker 1: and everything that will play into this game as the
Speaker 1: week goes along, because we got a lot of shows
Speaker 1: to do and uh a lot of talking to do.
Speaker 1: But for now, we will call it a wrap on
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