WEBVTT - The Truth with Lisa Boothe: Getting to Know Pennsylvania's Dave McCormick

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<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania is one of the most important states for this

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<v Speaker 1>presidential election and also for winning back the United States Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be one of the most expensive Senate

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<v Speaker 1>races in the country, and it comes down to Republican

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<v Speaker 1>businessman Dave McCormick versus Democrat Bob Casey. Now, Dave has

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<v Speaker 1>been able to avoid a nasty primary because the entire

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<v Speaker 1>Republican delegation of the state has gotten behind him. Now

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<v Speaker 1>he's been an incredibly successful businessman. He also graduated from

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<v Speaker 1>West Point, served in the military, earned a bronze star.

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<v Speaker 1>But who is Dave McCormick. I want to introduce you

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<v Speaker 1>to him In this episode. We'll get to know him

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better. I'll ask him about the state

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<v Speaker 1>of the country, ask him about his views on abortion,

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<v Speaker 1>get into his background a little bit. So who is

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<v Speaker 1>Dave McCormick find out Stay tuned well, Dave, it's great

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<v Speaker 1>to have you on the show. I know that campaigning

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<v Speaker 1>is busy and so you're probably exhausted and out there

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<v Speaker 1>working hard, so we appreciate you making the time for

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<v Speaker 1>the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm glad to be on. Thanks Lisa.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you grew up in Bloomsburg, Pennsylvania. Tell me

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<v Speaker 1>about Bloomsburg.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I was a seventh generation Pennsylvania. My dad

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<v Speaker 3>was born in Indiana County, which is out in the

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<v Speaker 3>western part of the state. Mom was born in punk Satani,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was born in Washington County, which is right

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<v Speaker 3>next to Pittsburgh. But they moved around when I was

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<v Speaker 3>a young kid. And I grew up in Bloomsburg, which

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<v Speaker 3>is about fifty miles south of Scranton, and it's like

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<v Speaker 3>the perfect quintessential small town. So my folks had a farm.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad worked at the college, but they had a farm,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was the president of a little state college.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I grew up bailing hay and trimming Christmas trees.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a bus boy at the local hotel. I

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<v Speaker 3>was a paper boy, and I played sports like most

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<v Speaker 3>young Pennsylvania boys and girls, and I wrestled and played football.

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<v Speaker 3>And wrestling in Pennsylvania is it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in the Blood Street, it's on a Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 3>If you walk into the gym during wrestling season, it'll

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<v Speaker 3>be jam packed. And so wrestling kind of defined me

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<v Speaker 3>and I wrestled in high school and then that got

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<v Speaker 3>me to college wrestling. I was recruited to wrestle at

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<v Speaker 3>West Point and I ended up wrestling all four years there,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was the co captain of the wrestling team.

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<v Speaker 3>And so wrestling in small town gyms like chic Alemmy

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<v Speaker 3>and Chick Shiney and Sealings Grove and North Scoogle that

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<v Speaker 3>was a big part of my growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>So you grew up near scrant and Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know he's he claims, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the office is probably a lot bigger connection

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<v Speaker 3>to most people than them Bob are than Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think Joe Biden left Scranton at the age

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<v Speaker 3>of five or something like that, so he.

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<v Speaker 2>His claim is limited.

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<v Speaker 3>Although there is certainly, uh, there is certainly a highway

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<v Speaker 3>up there that has Joe Biden on it, which I

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<v Speaker 3>take note of every time.

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<v Speaker 2>I drop by.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I would do something else, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>it would involve two figures going out. But anyhoy e

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<v Speaker 1>sadly exactly all right. So you have six daughters, So

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<v Speaker 1>I have three brothers, and my parents told me that

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<v Speaker 1>I was more difficult to raise that all three boys combined.

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<v Speaker 1>So how was that that been.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have four daughters, and then I remarried and

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<v Speaker 3>I have two more daughters. So I have six in total,

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<v Speaker 3>their ages twenty three to seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we had a moment where we had six

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<v Speaker 2>teenagers all at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>And essentially what I've said is, listen, I've done wrestling

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<v Speaker 3>in college, I went to Ranger School, I served in

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<v Speaker 3>the eighty second in Iraq. I've been in business, I've

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<v Speaker 3>been in politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing will test a man like being the father that

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<v Speaker 3>to sixteenage daughters.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's been a joy. And we're all most

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<v Speaker 3>empty nesters at this point, and we're proud of all

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<v Speaker 3>six of them. They're not so sure they love this

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<v Speaker 3>political stuff. In fact, they're pretty much one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 3>against their father running or their stepfather running. But but

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<v Speaker 3>but they're loving and supportive.

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<v Speaker 2>Nonetheless, Well you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know the why? You know why run because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's face it, look, you're really rich, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>great thing everyone wants to be. You know, like before

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<v Speaker 1>you quit your job in twenty twenty two, you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>making twenty two million or more as CEO of Bridgewater Associates.

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<v Speaker 1>So why, you know, why give that up, right. That

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<v Speaker 1>sounds well, that sounds pretty good. You know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're rich, the best way to get less rich

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<v Speaker 3>is to go into politics. That's that's the starting point.

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<v Speaker 3>But all kidding aside, I feel like the luckiest guy

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<v Speaker 3>in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I grew up in rural Pennsylvania and and

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<v Speaker 3>didn't didn't you know, I didn't have I didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>any money. I went to West Point and had that

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<v Speaker 3>career that I talked about. I ran a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>country companies. I ran a company in Pittsburgh that created

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<v Speaker 3>about a thousand jobs, and six hundred of them in Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I served in the government again and then

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<v Speaker 3>went on to run Bridgewater. And so when I look

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<v Speaker 3>at my life, I mean, I am so feel so blessed.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, the only person more surprised by my

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<v Speaker 3>success than me as my dad. And so I look

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<v Speaker 3>at it and say, wow, only in America.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's the same with my wife.

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<v Speaker 3>Dina's story was an immigrant from Egypt and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>came to Dallas at the age of five and worked

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<v Speaker 3>away through college and has had this remarkable career in

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<v Speaker 3>government and business, and that America we love is in trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>And so my simple answer to your question is, if

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<v Speaker 3>you believe America is exceptional, if you believe that you've

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<v Speaker 3>been benefited by the America dream, if you believe America

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<v Speaker 3>is in trouble and you believe you can do something

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<v Speaker 3>about it, then you're called to serve. And that's why,

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<v Speaker 3>even though you know politics isn't the most pleasant thing

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<v Speaker 3>these days, that I decided to do it, and I

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<v Speaker 3>did it with full knowledge of what it entails, because

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<v Speaker 3>as you know, I ran in twenty twenty two and

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<v Speaker 3>lost a very close primary. So I'm in this with

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<v Speaker 3>eyes wide open that it's it's a contact sport and

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<v Speaker 3>it's tough. But if we don't have good people who

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<v Speaker 3>frankly don't need the job, jumping in to take on

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<v Speaker 3>these jobs, then I think we're going to be lost

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<v Speaker 3>as a country.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I agree, but I think we need I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for instance, you you look at someone like

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden. All he's done is government, Yet you know

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<v Speaker 1>we send him when the country is a mess. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't fix a problem that you know he's been a

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<v Speaker 1>part of for for this long and part of that

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<v Speaker 1>is really a chaotic world that we live in right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've got a big foreign policy background. You mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're a veteran, served in the Army, went

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<v Speaker 1>to West Point. You know, you worked as a deputy

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<v Speaker 1>National Security advisor for the Bush administration as well. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you think we got here? How much of where

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<v Speaker 1>we are now in this chaotic world has to do

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<v Speaker 1>with Joe Biden? And I guess kind of what scares

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<v Speaker 1>you the most about sort of this global unrest that's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the you know, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Career tician part about Joe Biden, I agree with him.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the same with my opponent, Bob Casey. He's been

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<v Speaker 3>the Senate for eighteen years, he's been in statewide public

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<v Speaker 3>office for thirty years, so his entire life has been

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<v Speaker 3>devoted to public service. So we should thank him for

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<v Speaker 3>a service. But it's not it's not what we need now,

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<v Speaker 3>and we need true change in leadership that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>get the country back on a position of strength. And

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<v Speaker 3>what's happened on the world stage under President of Byness

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<v Speaker 3>in the world's increasingly complex. It's a tough neighborhood. We've

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<v Speaker 3>got you know, adversaries around the world that are growing

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<v Speaker 3>in power. But under Joe Biden, what's happened is we've

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<v Speaker 3>lost to terrence. And deterrence is a combination of power,

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<v Speaker 3>economic and military strength. It's a combination of will, the

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<v Speaker 3>willingness to use that power, that strength, and of uncertainty,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, whether the enemy or the adversary wonders what

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<v Speaker 3>and how you'll do it, and that creates fear, fear

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<v Speaker 3>of challenging us. And so you know, you and I

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<v Speaker 3>learned on the playground we were kids that if the

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<v Speaker 3>bully smells weakness, the bully is going to push the case.

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<v Speaker 3>And right now what's happened around the world is our

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<v Speaker 3>adversaries smell weakness. And it started with the botched withdrawal

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<v Speaker 3>out of Afghanistan, which was an absolute disgrace. It continued

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<v Speaker 3>with the very weak mixed messages that Biden gave putin

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<v Speaker 3>the approval of the nord Stream two pipeline. The mixed messages,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, will send Zelenski a plane when Russia invaded?

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<v Speaker 3>You know Biden's remarks that, you know, how would he respond?

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<v Speaker 3>What depends you know, how far Putin goes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the weak.

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<v Speaker 3>Response to the Chinese surveillance balloon, which which may seem

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<v Speaker 3>like a small thing, but you think about that that

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<v Speaker 3>balloon was flying over our military basis for you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the better part of a week and the week response

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<v Speaker 3>to the terrorist attacks throughout the Middle East. There's been

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<v Speaker 3>over one hundred and sixty attacks last year, many of

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<v Speaker 3>them against US forces in the least and Biden's response

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<v Speaker 3>every step of the way has been hamhanded, slow, weak, unclear,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's made our enemies think now's the time, now's

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<v Speaker 3>the time to push, now's the time to test. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I think our biggest problem is. And unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>deterrence is like your reputation. You know how hard it

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<v Speaker 3>is to build a great reputation and how easy it

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<v Speaker 3>is to lose a good reputation if you make a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>What's that way with deterrence.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to build, it's easy to lose, and once

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<v Speaker 3>you lose it, it's hard to get back. And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think we're going to get deterrence back under Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're going to need to get a new leader.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting Preident Trump in the office. President Trump had deterrence.

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<v Speaker 3>When you blow up a guy like Solo Moni. The

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<v Speaker 3>folks in Iran are saying, wait a second, this guy

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<v Speaker 3>means business and we need that kind of leadership in

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<v Speaker 3>the Senate. And Bob Casey has been an absolute appeaser

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<v Speaker 3>of tyrants around the world, most notably Aaron because he

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<v Speaker 3>signed the JPCA in twenty fifteen, the Iran Deal, which

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<v Speaker 3>gave Iran back one hundred billion dollars of sanctioned money,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's it's used that money.

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<v Speaker 2>To support these terrorist proxies around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>No, my my favorite part is when Trump was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about having chocolate cake with President She and then was

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<v Speaker 1>telling him that he was setting the Tomahawk missiles to

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<v Speaker 1>steer over chocolate cake, which is just kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, power move, and then dropping the mother of

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<v Speaker 1>all bombs in Afghanistan after he took off, as I think,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just sending a message that hey, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>new sheriff in town, like we're not messing around.

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<v Speaker 2>You tell that story. My wife was at that table.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Room in the in the subsequent meeting with the National

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<v Speaker 3>Security Council, and she tells that story, and that's absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>the case that that is uh that's that's that.

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<v Speaker 2>That sends a message.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think President Trump had a uh had a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of success in demonstrating that deterrence. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the thing about him which I which I agree with,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, the last thing you want to do is

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<v Speaker 3>broadcast how you're going to respond to your enemy. So

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<v Speaker 3>he created a lot of uncertainty in how we would respond,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's that's the key to deterrent. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's our biggest problem on the world stage right now.

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<v Speaker 3>That and the fact that China, you know, China's orchestrating

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of what's happening around the world behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, it was notable a couple months ago,

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<v Speaker 3>you may you may have seen it on the front

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<v Speaker 3>page of the Wall Street Journal.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a.

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<v Speaker 3>Picture of President Shei in Moscow, you know, standing behind

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<v Speaker 3>Putin of course, supporting his efforts in Ukraine. And during

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<v Speaker 3>that on that very same day, there was a picture

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<v Speaker 3>of the Foreign Minister from China in Saudi Arabia welcoming

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<v Speaker 3>the foreign minister from Iran and Saudi Arabia that we're

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<v Speaker 3>in talks with China seeking to orchestrate that China is

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<v Speaker 3>playing a role in the world stage, on connecting all

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<v Speaker 3>the dots, underwriting and supporting many of the challenges to

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<v Speaker 3>American leadership. And that's because China's explicit goal under President

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<v Speaker 3>She is to displace America as the global superpower and

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<v Speaker 3>challenge our interests and challenge our goals around the world.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you know, we've got to have a tough

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<v Speaker 3>minded strategy that not only returns to terrence, but also

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<v Speaker 3>stands tall against China and holds China accountable.

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<v Speaker 2>For bad behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>Who the a strategy that make sure we're not dependent

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<v Speaker 3>on China for key parts of our national security, make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that our companies and our investors aren't supporting China

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<v Speaker 3>by investing in the Chinese military or the Chinese Communist Party.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's also a big, a big challenge on the

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<v Speaker 3>global stage that the Biden administration has failed to address

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<v Speaker 3>in any meaningful way.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to take a quick commercial break more with

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<v Speaker 1>Dave McCormick on the other side, you can't really hold

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<v Speaker 1>a country, you know, accountable when you know your son

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<v Speaker 1>has profited off a bit business deals with China and

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<v Speaker 1>you potentially have as well, right, I mean, he's the

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<v Speaker 1>big guy potentially you know, God has been the recipient

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<v Speaker 1>somehow of some of that money allegedly, you know, his

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<v Speaker 1>son definitely has. Yeah, so you know, how does that

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<v Speaker 1>shape Joe Biden's ability to deal with China?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>This is what this is one of the more disturbing

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<v Speaker 3>things in the last three years, which is I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>what you're referring to is just this two tier justice

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<v Speaker 3>system where we see playing out in real time a

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<v Speaker 3>political motivation behind prosecution prosecutions at President Trump, whether it's

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<v Speaker 3>in the New York case or in Georgia where it's

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<v Speaker 3>highly highly politicized. It clearly wouldn't be like this if

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<v Speaker 3>the man that they were prosecuting wasn't Donald Trump. And

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<v Speaker 3>then you see two cases that are pretty similar with

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<v Speaker 3>sensitive doctor Humens, and the treatment of Joe Biden by

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<v Speaker 3>the justice system and the treatment of Donald Trump by

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<v Speaker 3>the justice system are dramatically different, despite very similar challenges

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<v Speaker 3>or very similar accusations of of of misbehavior. And it

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<v Speaker 3>gives us all pause, Wait a second, do we have

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<v Speaker 3>a justice system that's actually gonna bring justice that's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be fair to all involved? Or has it been

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<v Speaker 3>hijacked and politicized? And I think the Hunter Biden case

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<v Speaker 3>is a perfect example of that, where you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>had this laptop, you had these accusations against President Trump

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<v Speaker 3>of collaborating with the Russians, and then you know, out

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<v Speaker 3>of hand, all these national security figures and intelligence figures

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<v Speaker 3>slap down the accusations that that's Hunter Biden's that that's

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<v Speaker 3>Hunter Biden's laptop, and you know, this is all this

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<v Speaker 3>is all disinformation. And then with time we see that

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<v Speaker 3>that that's in fact not the case. And with time

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<v Speaker 3>we're finding that President Trump is being treated in a

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<v Speaker 3>way that's not consistent. You know, this five hundre million

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<v Speaker 3>dollar fine, I'm surd I've been in business. I've been

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<v Speaker 3>in business for almost thirty years. I've been a CEO

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<v Speaker 3>of two companies. I've never heard of anything remotely like

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<v Speaker 3>that in terms of that fine, particularly when there's no

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<v Speaker 3>one who's been damaged, so there's no damages that are

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<v Speaker 3>being ruled against. And this is this is a fundamental

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<v Speaker 3>fear because America is based on the idea of a

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<v Speaker 3>justice system which is fair to all innocent until proven guilty,

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<v Speaker 3>and that you'll get a fair shake. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>we see that under President Biden and the Democrats leading

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<v Speaker 3>the justice system judicial process. We're getting two very different

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<v Speaker 3>approaches in Yeah, well, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think that's kind of all been thrown out the door,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sadly under this administration is sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>direction the country is going in with you know, censorship,

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of it happened during COVID and has just

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<v Speaker 1>gotten worse since then. I wanted to ask you on

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<v Speaker 1>China specifically, why do we have so many Chinese nationals

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<v Speaker 1>entering the United States through the southern border, and with

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<v Speaker 1>your background and working on Chinese related issues, why are

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<v Speaker 1>they doing that? What's the objective?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know the objective, although I can imagine what the

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<v Speaker 3>objective is. I mean, I think the thing that we've

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<v Speaker 3>lost sight of is that with ten million illegal migrant

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<v Speaker 3>entering our country in a three year period, that those

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<v Speaker 3>are not people from Mexico. Those are people from across

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<v Speaker 3>the world, from Syria, from Central Asia, and from China.

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<v Speaker 3>The last numbers I saw were twenty thousand or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that in the past year, and it's hard to

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<v Speaker 3>imagine that that's not part of a very conscious effort

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<v Speaker 3>to infiltrate the United States, particularly given how difficult it

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<v Speaker 3>is to get out of China, so hard to imagine

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<v Speaker 3>the government isn't somehow behind this y'or sanctioning it. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's part of a comprehensive approach to undermining, challenging and

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<v Speaker 3>becoming integrated into America in a way for some Chinese

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<v Speaker 3>nationals that is very, very counter to America's interests. Many

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<v Speaker 3>Chinese nationals that come go to graduate school stay in

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<v Speaker 3>America and or contributing citizens and become American citizens, but

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<v Speaker 3>there are many that are part of an effort to

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<v Speaker 3>undermine our national security by stealing state secrets and becoming

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<v Speaker 3>part of a framework of compromising America's interest And you

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<v Speaker 3>see these confusion centers around the United States, you see

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<v Speaker 3>the infiltration into some of our cities. You see in

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<v Speaker 3>our universities. There's many great graduate students who come from

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<v Speaker 3>China with the best motivations. There's some that are very

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<v Speaker 3>explicitly targeted by the Chinese government, and that's an enormous

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<v Speaker 3>national security problem. When you think about twenty thousand coming

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<v Speaker 3>across our border last year, I can't but imagine that

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<v Speaker 3>there's a nefarious intention behind that, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>really scary.

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<v Speaker 1>We also know there's just a lot of foreign money

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<v Speaker 1>going to our universities as well, which you would have

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<v Speaker 1>to imagine shapes what happens on those campuses as a result,

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<v Speaker 1>in the same way that you know, obviously the Biden

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<v Speaker 1>family taking money from China probably shapes his positioning on

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<v Speaker 1>foreign policy. You would imagine, what do you think the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest issue we face as a country is right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think there's there's sort of the fast burn

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<v Speaker 3>and the slow burn. I mean the fast burn is

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<v Speaker 3>we got two big issues that are affecting Pennsylvanians and

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<v Speaker 3>Americans in a big way. One is the economy. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know what's happened under Joe Biden and the enormous

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<v Speaker 3>spending and the war on fossil fuels, is that prices

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<v Speaker 3>have gone up by twenty percent, wages have gone up

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<v Speaker 3>by fourteen fifteen percent. And so if you're of the

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<v Speaker 3>sixty percent of Pennsylvanians who live paycheck to paycheck sixty

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<v Speaker 3>percent most Pennsylvanians live in paycheck to paycheck, man, under

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden, you're getting squeezed.

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<v Speaker 2>Your life got hard or not easier. You're living paycheck

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<v Speaker 2>to paycheck.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have a bad day and your transmission goes down,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have a thousand dollars in your checking account

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<v Speaker 3>to fix it. That is unacceptable. And that is the

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<v Speaker 3>direct result of a set of policies that Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 3>and Bob Casey have supported, which is the warrant energy

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<v Speaker 3>and the EXCESSUS spending.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the second the second big deal was the border.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that we talked about all the problems from that,

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<v Speaker 3>the fentanyl crisis, the crime in our cities. That's the

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<v Speaker 3>second big problem, and I think it's I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely undermining the quality of life, the safety, the well

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<v Speaker 3>being of our fellow Americans and our fellow Pennsylvanians. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the long burn problem is a bit what we were

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<v Speaker 3>talking about. If you go to our college campuses and

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<v Speaker 3>our young people only thirty percent of them, I think

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<v Speaker 3>America is exceptional. If you look at our recruiting numbers

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<v Speaker 3>for our military, they can't meet the recruiting numbers because

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<v Speaker 3>our young peopleeople can't pass the obesity test or the

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<v Speaker 3>physical fitness test, or they have drug problems. And of

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<v Speaker 3>the few that are able to actually qualify, the majority

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to serve. And then if you look at

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<v Speaker 3>the statistics on TikTok and social media in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>how our young people are spending their time. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>these are the building blocks of or the key factors

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<v Speaker 3>undermining the quality of our society. If our citizens don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to serve, if they don't believe America is special,

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<v Speaker 3>if they're being co opted by social media, some of

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<v Speaker 3>it from a foreign adversary that is undermining our.

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<v Speaker 2>Social norms or mores.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the long run problem, and I think really

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<v Speaker 3>undermines our ability to remain the greatest country in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>How big of an issue in Pennsylvania. You know, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden has been trying to set all these deadlines for

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<v Speaker 1>this big push for electric vehicles, even though the market's

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<v Speaker 1>not really demanding it. How much is that going to

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<v Speaker 1>impact Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a huge impact.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think when we look back on the Biden administration,

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<v Speaker 3>we will talk about energy policy is the most significant miscalculation.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason it's such a big deal is that

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<v Speaker 3>we are blessed with incredible natural resources in America, particularly

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<v Speaker 3>natural gas. Natural gas in Pennsylvania is the fourth largest

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<v Speaker 3>natural gas reserves in the world. I heard a statistic

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<v Speaker 3>the other day but just put in perspective, if we

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<v Speaker 3>developed our natural gas capability, we would be able to

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<v Speaker 3>export the equivalent of another Saudi Arabia ten million barrels

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<v Speaker 3>a day in natural gas equivalent from America alone. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's enormous what we could do, and it's so critical

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<v Speaker 3>to our national security to be able to put that

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<v Speaker 3>natural gas in the hands of our allies. It's so

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<v Speaker 3>critical for our economy because those fracking jobs in Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 3>are sixty seventy thousand for a nineteen twenty year old

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<v Speaker 3>kid with the technical training and go to ninety or

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred thousand a year with overtime. This is like

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<v Speaker 3>the next generation of great middle class jobs, middle class life.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have that a four year degree. You get

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<v Speaker 3>a one or two year technical degree. It's a huge opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the great irony. It helps our environment and

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<v Speaker 3>reduces carbon emissions because our natural gas exports replace coal

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<v Speaker 3>fired plants in India and China, which are the main

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<v Speaker 3>carbon emitters today. And so this strategy has been a disaster.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the final straw. This mandating of evs is

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<v Speaker 3>destroying manufacturing jobs and it's also making us more dependent

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<v Speaker 3>on China. So these evs come with lithium batteries eighty

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<v Speaker 3>percent of them are made from China, eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 3>the lithium batteries in the world, and solar panels, the

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<v Speaker 3>large majority of which are made in China. So we

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<v Speaker 3>are making ourselves more dependent on our primary adversary at

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<v Speaker 3>the same time we're hurting our security, hurting our economy,

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<v Speaker 3>and hurting the environment. It's complete hypocrisy. It makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think what time is going to become clear

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<v Speaker 3>how stupid this is, And it's already becoming clear in

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<v Speaker 3>places like Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to take a quick commercial break. More with

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<v Speaker 1>Dave McCormack on the other side, Obviously, Democrats are going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to make abortion a key issue heading into

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. Are you pro life? Where do you stand?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm pro life. I'm in favor of the three exceptions.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not in favor of federal bands. I'm not in

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<v Speaker 3>favor of the extreme policies of the Democratic Party and

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<v Speaker 3>a Bob Casey which allows abortions up until the dow date.

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<v Speaker 3>And so the way I say it on the campaign try,

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<v Speaker 3>I say, listen, I'm not for either extreme. This is

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<v Speaker 3>an era where we need to find common ground. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think common grounds around widely available contraception, it's around

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<v Speaker 3>support for adoption services for young families, and it's in

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<v Speaker 3>support of restrictions on late term abortions. And Pennsylvania has

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<v Speaker 3>a law. Here's the great irony of it. Somebody has

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<v Speaker 3>a law that was signed by Republicans and Democrats alike,

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<v Speaker 3>and the governor who signed it into place is a

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<v Speaker 3>governor named Casey, the father of my opponent, and my

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<v Speaker 3>opponent was a pro life ran on as a pro

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<v Speaker 3>life senator eighteen years ago, and in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 3>eight he flipped his position to be pro choice, and

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<v Speaker 3>as recently as two years ago, when Roeve Wade was overturned,

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<v Speaker 3>he signed legislation that would have allowed for abortions up

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<v Speaker 3>until the due date. So I'm running against somebody here

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<v Speaker 3>is who's truly been all over the place on the

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<v Speaker 3>issue of abortion at a time when this is a

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<v Speaker 3>big issue for voters across Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Pennsylvania is a critical state both for winning

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<v Speaker 1>the White House as well as winning back the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>male in balloting, and you go back to twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Biden ended up getting something like three out

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<v Speaker 1>of four mail in ballots that were cast in the state.

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<v Speaker 1>Biden won by less than two two percent of the vote.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing on mail balloting? You know? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that Republicans are prepared in the state to

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<v Speaker 1>win votes in the manner in which elections are conducted today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think there's two things, three things we got

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<v Speaker 3>to get right structurally to win Pennsylvania. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>Pennsylvanya is becoming a red state. When Donald Trump won

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty sixteen, there was a million more registered Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>than Republicans. Today it's under four hundred thousand, and the

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<v Speaker 3>gaps closing fast. So there's three things we need to do.

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<v Speaker 3>The first thing is we need to accelerate that acceleration,

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<v Speaker 3>accelerate that registration of Republican voters, and there's an initiatives.

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<v Speaker 2>Underway to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Second thing we need to do is a whole set

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<v Speaker 3>of efforts around election integrity. There's all sorts of problems

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<v Speaker 3>in Pennsylvania. We got sixty seven counties. They all have

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<v Speaker 3>different processes, and whether you think this is a big

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<v Speaker 3>problem or a little problem, it's affecting the willingness of

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<v Speaker 3>people to vote because they don't think they're voting count

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<v Speaker 3>So we need to have a very transparent process of

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<v Speaker 3>validating voting machines, of making sure there's chain of custody,

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<v Speaker 3>on making sure there's oversight of drop boxes, of making

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<v Speaker 3>sure there's the right observers and legal processes and challenges

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<v Speaker 3>on election day. So election integris Number two third is

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<v Speaker 3>the one you mentioned, which is mail in ballots, and

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<v Speaker 3>that was a huge Democratic advantage on this. The Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>have embraced mail in ballots and they're beating us now

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<v Speaker 3>on average seven to one. And there's a huge initiative,

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<v Speaker 3>arguably the largest in the country, many millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 3>being invested by a number of groups to focus on

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<v Speaker 3>low propensity voters. These are voters that vote zero, once

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<v Speaker 3>or twice in the last four elections and get them

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<v Speaker 3>registered for mail in ballots and then get them to

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<v Speaker 3>submit their mail in ballots. And that effort I suspect

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<v Speaker 3>will close the gap in Pennsylvania, but not close it completely.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's going to take multiple election cycles.

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<v Speaker 2>To close it completely.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, part of it is convincing people that

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<v Speaker 3>their vote's going to count. By mail in ballot and

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<v Speaker 3>that there's a clear way to do it. And so

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<v Speaker 3>we're closely coordinating with the Trump team, with the RNC

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<v Speaker 3>and others to make sure that we have the right

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<v Speaker 3>program in place to take advantage of mail in ballots.

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<v Speaker 3>It's early on, but I'm encouraged that there's the right

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<v Speaker 3>focus and the right resources.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to hear before we go. Where can people

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<v Speaker 1>go to help?

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<v Speaker 3>They can find me at Dave MCCORMICKPA dot com. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>spending most of my time driving across the Great Commonwealth

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<v Speaker 3>of Pennsylvania and my campaign bus, which gets me into

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<v Speaker 3>every small town I can find. And you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>sixty seven counties and I'm in. I've this year so far,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been in forty seven of them. I've done one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and forty events. I am running a campaign that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to touch people all across our commonwealth and a

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<v Speaker 3>good old fashioned retail campaign, and I'm excited about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like there's a real change of foot I

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<v Speaker 3>can feel it in the air, and I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 3>be part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Dave McCormick, good luck. It's an important state. We

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you making the time for us today.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for we have a great day.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Dave McCormick running for Senate in Pennsylvania. Appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>him making the time. You know, these guys have crazy schedules,

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<v Speaker 1>so we really appreciate him making time for the show

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<v Speaker 1>every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to think John Cassio for putting the show together.

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<v Speaker 1>Until next time,