1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania is one of the most important states for this 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: presidential election and also for winning back the United States Senate. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: It's going to be one of the most expensive Senate 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: races in the country, and it comes down to Republican 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: businessman Dave McCormick versus Democrat Bob Casey. Now, Dave has 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: been able to avoid a nasty primary because the entire 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: Republican delegation of the state has gotten behind him. Now 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: he's been an incredibly successful businessman. He also graduated from 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: West Point, served in the military, earned a bronze star. 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: But who is Dave McCormick. I want to introduce you 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: to him In this episode. We'll get to know him 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: a little bit better. I'll ask him about the state 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: of the country, ask him about his views on abortion, 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: get into his background a little bit. So who is 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Dave McCormick find out Stay tuned well, Dave, it's great 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: to have you on the show. I know that campaigning 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: is busy and so you're probably exhausted and out there 18 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: working hard, so we appreciate you making the time for 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: the show. 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm glad to be on. Thanks Lisa. 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so you grew up in Bloomsburg, Pennsylvania. Tell me 22 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: about Bloomsburg. 23 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I was a seventh generation Pennsylvania. My dad 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: was born in Indiana County, which is out in the 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: western part of the state. Mom was born in punk Satani, 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: and I was born in Washington County, which is right 27 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: next to Pittsburgh. But they moved around when I was 28 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 3: a young kid. And I grew up in Bloomsburg, which 29 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: is about fifty miles south of Scranton, and it's like 30 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: the perfect quintessential small town. So my folks had a farm. 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 3: My dad worked at the college, but they had a farm, 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 3: and he was the president of a little state college. 33 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,639 Speaker 3: And so I grew up bailing hay and trimming Christmas trees. 34 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: I was a bus boy at the local hotel. I 35 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: was a paper boy, and I played sports like most 36 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: young Pennsylvania boys and girls, and I wrestled and played football. 37 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: And wrestling in Pennsylvania is it's. 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: A big deal. 39 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: It's in the Blood Street, it's on a Saturday night. 40 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: If you walk into the gym during wrestling season, it'll 41 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: be jam packed. And so wrestling kind of defined me 42 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: and I wrestled in high school and then that got 43 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: me to college wrestling. I was recruited to wrestle at 44 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 3: West Point and I ended up wrestling all four years there, 45 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: and I was the co captain of the wrestling team. 46 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: And so wrestling in small town gyms like chic Alemmy 47 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: and Chick Shiney and Sealings Grove and North Scoogle that 48 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 3: was a big part of my growing up. 49 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: So you grew up near scrant and Joe Biden. 50 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know he's he claims, but you know, 51 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: I think the office is probably a lot bigger connection 52 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: to most people than them Bob are than Joe Biden, 53 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: because I think Joe Biden left Scranton at the age 54 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: of five or something like that, so he. 55 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: His claim is limited. 56 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: Although there is certainly, uh, there is certainly a highway 57 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: up there that has Joe Biden on it, which I 58 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: take note of every time. 59 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: I drop by. 60 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I would do something else, but you know 61 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: it would involve two figures going out. But anyhoy e 62 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: sadly exactly all right. So you have six daughters, So 63 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: I have three brothers, and my parents told me that 64 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: I was more difficult to raise that all three boys combined. 65 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: So how was that that been. 66 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: So I have four daughters, and then I remarried and 67 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: I have two more daughters. So I have six in total, 68 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: their ages twenty three to seventeen. 69 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: And so we had a moment where we had six 70 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: teenagers all at the same time. 71 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: And essentially what I've said is, listen, I've done wrestling 72 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: in college, I went to Ranger School, I served in 73 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: the eighty second in Iraq. I've been in business, I've 74 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: been in politics. 75 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: Nothing. 76 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: Nothing will test a man like being the father that 77 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: to sixteenage daughters. 78 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: Nothing. 79 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: And so it's been a joy. And we're all most 80 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: empty nesters at this point, and we're proud of all 81 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: six of them. They're not so sure they love this 82 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: political stuff. In fact, they're pretty much one hundred percent 83 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: against their father running or their stepfather running. But but 84 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: but they're loving and supportive. 85 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: Nonetheless, Well you. 86 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: Know the why? You know why run because you know, 87 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: let's face it, look, you're really rich, which is a 88 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: great thing everyone wants to be. You know, like before 89 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: you quit your job in twenty twenty two, you're you're 90 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: making twenty two million or more as CEO of Bridgewater Associates. 91 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: So why, you know, why give that up, right. That 92 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: sounds well, that sounds pretty good. You know, I'm not 93 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: gonna lie. 94 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 3: If you're rich, the best way to get less rich 95 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 3: is to go into politics. That's that's the starting point. 96 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: But all kidding aside, I feel like the luckiest guy 97 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: in the world. 98 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 2: I'm fifty eight. 99 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 3: You know, I grew up in rural Pennsylvania and and 100 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: didn't didn't you know, I didn't have I didn't have 101 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 3: any money. I went to West Point and had that 102 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: career that I talked about. I ran a couple of 103 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 3: country companies. I ran a company in Pittsburgh that created 104 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: about a thousand jobs, and six hundred of them in Pittsburgh. 105 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: And then I served in the government again and then 106 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: went on to run Bridgewater. And so when I look 107 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: at my life, I mean, I am so feel so blessed. 108 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 3: And you know, the only person more surprised by my 109 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: success than me as my dad. And so I look 110 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 3: at it and say, wow, only in America. 111 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 2: And it's the same with my wife. 112 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 3: Dina's story was an immigrant from Egypt and you know, 113 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 3: came to Dallas at the age of five and worked 114 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: away through college and has had this remarkable career in 115 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: government and business, and that America we love is in trouble. 116 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 3: And so my simple answer to your question is, if 117 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 3: you believe America is exceptional, if you believe that you've 118 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: been benefited by the America dream, if you believe America 119 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: is in trouble and you believe you can do something 120 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 3: about it, then you're called to serve. And that's why, 121 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: even though you know politics isn't the most pleasant thing 122 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 3: these days, that I decided to do it, and I 123 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: did it with full knowledge of what it entails, because 124 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: as you know, I ran in twenty twenty two and 125 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: lost a very close primary. So I'm in this with 126 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: eyes wide open that it's it's a contact sport and 127 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 3: it's tough. But if we don't have good people who 128 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 3: frankly don't need the job, jumping in to take on 129 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 3: these jobs, then I think we're going to be lost 130 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: as a country. 131 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: No, I agree, but I think we need I mean, 132 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, for instance, you you look at someone like 133 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. All he's done is government, Yet you know 134 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: we send him when the country is a mess. You 135 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: can't fix a problem that you know he's been a 136 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: part of for for this long and part of that 137 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: is really a chaotic world that we live in right now. 138 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: I know you've got a big foreign policy background. You mentioned, 139 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, you're a veteran, served in the Army, went 140 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: to West Point. You know, you worked as a deputy 141 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: National Security advisor for the Bush administration as well. How 142 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: do you think we got here? How much of where 143 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: we are now in this chaotic world has to do 144 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: with Joe Biden? And I guess kind of what scares 145 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: you the most about sort of this global unrest that's happening. 146 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 2: Well, the you know, the. 147 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 3: Career tician part about Joe Biden, I agree with him. 148 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 3: That's the same with my opponent, Bob Casey. He's been 149 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: the Senate for eighteen years, he's been in statewide public 150 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: office for thirty years, so his entire life has been 151 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: devoted to public service. So we should thank him for 152 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: a service. But it's not it's not what we need now, 153 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: and we need true change in leadership that's going to 154 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: get the country back on a position of strength. And 155 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: what's happened on the world stage under President of Byness 156 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: in the world's increasingly complex. It's a tough neighborhood. We've 157 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: got you know, adversaries around the world that are growing 158 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: in power. But under Joe Biden, what's happened is we've 159 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: lost to terrence. And deterrence is a combination of power, 160 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: economic and military strength. It's a combination of will, the 161 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: willingness to use that power, that strength, and of uncertainty, 162 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: you know, whether the enemy or the adversary wonders what 163 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: and how you'll do it, and that creates fear, fear 164 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 3: of challenging us. And so you know, you and I 165 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: learned on the playground we were kids that if the 166 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: bully smells weakness, the bully is going to push the case. 167 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: And right now what's happened around the world is our 168 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 3: adversaries smell weakness. And it started with the botched withdrawal 169 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: out of Afghanistan, which was an absolute disgrace. It continued 170 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: with the very weak mixed messages that Biden gave putin 171 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: the approval of the nord Stream two pipeline. The mixed messages, 172 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: you know, will send Zelenski a plane when Russia invaded? 173 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 3: You know Biden's remarks that, you know, how would he respond? 174 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: What depends you know, how far Putin goes. 175 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: It's the weak. 176 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: Response to the Chinese surveillance balloon, which which may seem 177 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: like a small thing, but you think about that that 178 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: balloon was flying over our military basis for you know, 179 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: the better part of a week and the week response 180 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: to the terrorist attacks throughout the Middle East. There's been 181 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: over one hundred and sixty attacks last year, many of 182 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: them against US forces in the least and Biden's response 183 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 3: every step of the way has been hamhanded, slow, weak, unclear, 184 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: and that's made our enemies think now's the time, now's 185 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: the time to push, now's the time to test. And 186 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: that's what I think our biggest problem is. And unfortunately, 187 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 3: deterrence is like your reputation. You know how hard it 188 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: is to build a great reputation and how easy it 189 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: is to lose a good reputation if you make a mistake. 190 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: What's that way with deterrence. 191 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: It's hard to build, it's easy to lose, and once 192 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: you lose it, it's hard to get back. And I 193 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: don't think we're going to get deterrence back under Joe Biden. 194 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: I think we're going to need to get a new leader. 195 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: I'm getting Preident Trump in the office. President Trump had deterrence. 196 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: When you blow up a guy like Solo Moni. The 197 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 3: folks in Iran are saying, wait a second, this guy 198 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 3: means business and we need that kind of leadership in 199 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 3: the Senate. And Bob Casey has been an absolute appeaser 200 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 3: of tyrants around the world, most notably Aaron because he 201 00:09:53,800 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 3: signed the JPCA in twenty fifteen, the Iran Deal, which 202 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 3: gave Iran back one hundred billion dollars of sanctioned money, 203 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: and that's it's used that money. 204 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: To support these terrorist proxies around the world. 205 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: No, my my favorite part is when Trump was talking 206 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: about having chocolate cake with President She and then was 207 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: telling him that he was setting the Tomahawk missiles to 208 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: steer over chocolate cake, which is just kind of a 209 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, power move, and then dropping the mother of 210 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: all bombs in Afghanistan after he took off, as I think, 211 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: kind of just sending a message that hey, there's a 212 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: new sheriff in town, like we're not messing around. 213 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: You tell that story. My wife was at that table. 214 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, no. 215 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: Room in the in the subsequent meeting with the National 216 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 3: Security Council, and she tells that story, and that's absolutely 217 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: the case that that is uh that's that's that. 218 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: That sends a message. 219 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: And I think President Trump had a uh had a 220 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 3: lot of success in demonstrating that deterrence. And you know, 221 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: the thing about him which I which I agree with, 222 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: he said, the last thing you want to do is 223 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 3: broadcast how you're going to respond to your enemy. So 224 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: he created a lot of uncertainty in how we would respond, 225 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: and that's that's the key to deterrent. So I think 226 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: that's our biggest problem on the world stage right now. 227 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,359 Speaker 3: That and the fact that China, you know, China's orchestrating 228 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: a lot of what's happening around the world behind the scenes. 229 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 3: And you know, it was notable a couple months ago, 230 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: you may you may have seen it on the front 231 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: page of the Wall Street Journal. 232 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: There was a. 233 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: Picture of President Shei in Moscow, you know, standing behind 234 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 3: Putin of course, supporting his efforts in Ukraine. And during 235 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: that on that very same day, there was a picture 236 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: of the Foreign Minister from China in Saudi Arabia welcoming 237 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 3: the foreign minister from Iran and Saudi Arabia that we're 238 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: in talks with China seeking to orchestrate that China is 239 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: playing a role in the world stage, on connecting all 240 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: the dots, underwriting and supporting many of the challenges to 241 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: American leadership. And that's because China's explicit goal under President 242 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: She is to displace America as the global superpower and 243 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: challenge our interests and challenge our goals around the world. 244 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: And so you know, we've got to have a tough 245 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: minded strategy that not only returns to terrence, but also 246 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: stands tall against China and holds China accountable. 247 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: For bad behavior. 248 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 3: Who the a strategy that make sure we're not dependent 249 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: on China for key parts of our national security, make 250 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 3: sure that our companies and our investors aren't supporting China 251 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: by investing in the Chinese military or the Chinese Communist Party. 252 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: So that's also a big, a big challenge on the 253 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: global stage that the Biden administration has failed to address 254 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 3: in any meaningful way. 255 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: We've got to take a quick commercial break more with 256 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: Dave McCormick on the other side, you can't really hold 257 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: a country, you know, accountable when you know your son 258 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: has profited off a bit business deals with China and 259 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: you potentially have as well, right, I mean, he's the 260 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: big guy potentially you know, God has been the recipient 261 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: somehow of some of that money allegedly, you know, his 262 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: son definitely has. Yeah, so you know, how does that 263 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: shape Joe Biden's ability to deal with China? 264 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 265 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: This is what this is one of the more disturbing 266 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: things in the last three years, which is I mean, 267 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 3: what you're referring to is just this two tier justice 268 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 3: system where we see playing out in real time a 269 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: political motivation behind prosecution prosecutions at President Trump, whether it's 270 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: in the New York case or in Georgia where it's 271 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 3: highly highly politicized. It clearly wouldn't be like this if 272 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,599 Speaker 3: the man that they were prosecuting wasn't Donald Trump. And 273 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 3: then you see two cases that are pretty similar with 274 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 3: sensitive doctor Humens, and the treatment of Joe Biden by 275 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 3: the justice system and the treatment of Donald Trump by 276 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:10,119 Speaker 3: the justice system are dramatically different, despite very similar challenges 277 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: or very similar accusations of of of misbehavior. And it 278 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: gives us all pause, Wait a second, do we have 279 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 3: a justice system that's actually gonna bring justice that's going 280 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: to be fair to all involved? Or has it been 281 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: hijacked and politicized? And I think the Hunter Biden case 282 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 3: is a perfect example of that, where you know, you 283 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 3: had this laptop, you had these accusations against President Trump 284 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: of collaborating with the Russians, and then you know, out 285 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: of hand, all these national security figures and intelligence figures 286 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: slap down the accusations that that's Hunter Biden's that that's 287 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden's laptop, and you know, this is all this 288 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: is all disinformation. And then with time we see that 289 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: that that's in fact not the case. And with time 290 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: we're finding that President Trump is being treated in a 291 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: way that's not consistent. You know, this five hundre million 292 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: dollar fine, I'm surd I've been in business. I've been 293 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: in business for almost thirty years. I've been a CEO 294 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: of two companies. I've never heard of anything remotely like 295 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: that in terms of that fine, particularly when there's no 296 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: one who's been damaged, so there's no damages that are 297 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: being ruled against. And this is this is a fundamental 298 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: fear because America is based on the idea of a 299 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 3: justice system which is fair to all innocent until proven guilty, 300 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: and that you'll get a fair shake. And I think 301 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 3: we see that under President Biden and the Democrats leading 302 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: the justice system judicial process. We're getting two very different 303 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: approaches in Yeah, well, I. 304 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: Think that's kind of all been thrown out the door, 305 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, sadly under this administration is sort of the 306 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: direction the country is going in with you know, censorship, 307 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: A lot of it happened during COVID and has just 308 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: gotten worse since then. I wanted to ask you on 309 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: China specifically, why do we have so many Chinese nationals 310 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: entering the United States through the southern border, and with 311 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: your background and working on Chinese related issues, why are 312 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: they doing that? What's the objective? 313 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: You know, I. 314 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 3: Don't know the objective, although I can imagine what the 315 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: objective is. I mean, I think the thing that we've 316 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: lost sight of is that with ten million illegal migrant 317 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: entering our country in a three year period, that those 318 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: are not people from Mexico. Those are people from across 319 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: the world, from Syria, from Central Asia, and from China. 320 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: The last numbers I saw were twenty thousand or something 321 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: like that in the past year, and it's hard to 322 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: imagine that that's not part of a very conscious effort 323 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 3: to infiltrate the United States, particularly given how difficult it 324 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: is to get out of China, so hard to imagine 325 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: the government isn't somehow behind this y'or sanctioning it. And 326 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: that's part of a comprehensive approach to undermining, challenging and 327 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 3: becoming integrated into America in a way for some Chinese 328 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: nationals that is very, very counter to America's interests. Many 329 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: Chinese nationals that come go to graduate school stay in 330 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 3: America and or contributing citizens and become American citizens, but 331 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 3: there are many that are part of an effort to 332 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: undermine our national security by stealing state secrets and becoming 333 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: part of a framework of compromising America's interest And you 334 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 3: see these confusion centers around the United States, you see 335 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: the infiltration into some of our cities. You see in 336 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: our universities. There's many great graduate students who come from 337 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 3: China with the best motivations. There's some that are very 338 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: explicitly targeted by the Chinese government, and that's an enormous 339 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 3: national security problem. When you think about twenty thousand coming 340 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: across our border last year, I can't but imagine that 341 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 3: there's a nefarious intention behind that, and I think it's 342 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: really scary. 343 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: We also know there's just a lot of foreign money 344 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: going to our universities as well, which you would have 345 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: to imagine shapes what happens on those campuses as a result, 346 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: in the same way that you know, obviously the Biden 347 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: family taking money from China probably shapes his positioning on 348 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: foreign policy. You would imagine, what do you think the 349 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: biggest issue we face as a country is right now? 350 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: Well, I think there's there's sort of the fast burn 351 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: and the slow burn. I mean the fast burn is 352 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: we got two big issues that are affecting Pennsylvanians and 353 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 3: Americans in a big way. One is the economy. And 354 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: you know what's happened under Joe Biden and the enormous 355 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 3: spending and the war on fossil fuels, is that prices 356 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 3: have gone up by twenty percent, wages have gone up 357 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 3: by fourteen fifteen percent. And so if you're of the 358 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 3: sixty percent of Pennsylvanians who live paycheck to paycheck sixty 359 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: percent most Pennsylvanians live in paycheck to paycheck, man, under 360 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: Joe Biden, you're getting squeezed. 361 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 2: Your life got hard or not easier. You're living paycheck 362 00:18:59,440 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: to paycheck. 363 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: If you have a bad day and your transmission goes down, 364 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: you don't have a thousand dollars in your checking account 365 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 3: to fix it. That is unacceptable. And that is the 366 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: direct result of a set of policies that Joe Biden 367 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: and Bob Casey have supported, which is the warrant energy 368 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: and the EXCESSUS spending. 369 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 2: That's a big deal. 370 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 3: Well, the second the second big deal was the border. 371 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: I mean that we talked about all the problems from that, 372 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 3: the fentanyl crisis, the crime in our cities. That's the 373 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 3: second big problem, and I think it's I think it's 374 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 3: absolutely undermining the quality of life, the safety, the well 375 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 3: being of our fellow Americans and our fellow Pennsylvanians. Now, 376 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: the long burn problem is a bit what we were 377 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 3: talking about. If you go to our college campuses and 378 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: our young people only thirty percent of them, I think 379 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 3: America is exceptional. If you look at our recruiting numbers 380 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: for our military, they can't meet the recruiting numbers because 381 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: our young peopleeople can't pass the obesity test or the 382 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 3: physical fitness test, or they have drug problems. And of 383 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 3: the few that are able to actually qualify, the majority 384 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: don't want to serve. And then if you look at 385 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 3: the statistics on TikTok and social media in terms of 386 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 3: how our young people are spending their time. You know, 387 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 3: these are the building blocks of or the key factors 388 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: undermining the quality of our society. If our citizens don't 389 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: want to serve, if they don't believe America is special, 390 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: if they're being co opted by social media, some of 391 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: it from a foreign adversary that is undermining our. 392 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: Social norms or mores. 393 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 3: That is the long run problem, and I think really 394 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 3: undermines our ability to remain the greatest country in the world. 395 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: How big of an issue in Pennsylvania. You know, Joe 396 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: Biden has been trying to set all these deadlines for 397 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: this big push for electric vehicles, even though the market's 398 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: not really demanding it. How much is that going to 399 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: impact Pennsylvania. 400 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 2: It's a huge impact. 401 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 3: And I think when we look back on the Biden administration, 402 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 3: we will talk about energy policy is the most significant miscalculation. 403 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: And the reason it's such a big deal is that 404 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 3: we are blessed with incredible natural resources in America, particularly 405 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: natural gas. Natural gas in Pennsylvania is the fourth largest 406 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: natural gas reserves in the world. I heard a statistic 407 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 3: the other day but just put in perspective, if we 408 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 3: developed our natural gas capability, we would be able to 409 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 3: export the equivalent of another Saudi Arabia ten million barrels 410 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: a day in natural gas equivalent from America alone. So 411 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: it's enormous what we could do, and it's so critical 412 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 3: to our national security to be able to put that 413 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 3: natural gas in the hands of our allies. It's so 414 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 3: critical for our economy because those fracking jobs in Pennsylvania 415 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 3: are sixty seventy thousand for a nineteen twenty year old 416 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 3: kid with the technical training and go to ninety or 417 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 3: one hundred thousand a year with overtime. This is like 418 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 3: the next generation of great middle class jobs, middle class life. 419 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: You don't have that a four year degree. You get 420 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: a one or two year technical degree. It's a huge opportunity. 421 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 3: But here's the great irony. It helps our environment and 422 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: reduces carbon emissions because our natural gas exports replace coal 423 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 3: fired plants in India and China, which are the main 424 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 3: carbon emitters today. And so this strategy has been a disaster. 425 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 3: But here's the final straw. This mandating of evs is 426 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 3: destroying manufacturing jobs and it's also making us more dependent 427 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: on China. So these evs come with lithium batteries eighty 428 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 3: percent of them are made from China, eighty percent of 429 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 3: the lithium batteries in the world, and solar panels, the 430 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 3: large majority of which are made in China. So we 431 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 3: are making ourselves more dependent on our primary adversary at 432 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 3: the same time we're hurting our security, hurting our economy, 433 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: and hurting the environment. It's complete hypocrisy. It makes no sense. 434 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 3: And I think what time is going to become clear 435 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: how stupid this is, And it's already becoming clear in 436 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 3: places like Pennsylvania. 437 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: You've got to take a quick commercial break. More with 438 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: Dave McCormack on the other side, Obviously, Democrats are going 439 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: to try to make abortion a key issue heading into 440 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Are you pro life? Where do you stand? 441 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pro life. I'm in favor of the three exceptions. 442 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 3: I'm not in favor of federal bands. I'm not in 443 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: favor of the extreme policies of the Democratic Party and 444 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 3: a Bob Casey which allows abortions up until the dow date. 445 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: And so the way I say it on the campaign try, 446 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 3: I say, listen, I'm not for either extreme. This is 447 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 3: an era where we need to find common ground. And 448 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: I think common grounds around widely available contraception, it's around 449 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 3: support for adoption services for young families, and it's in 450 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 3: support of restrictions on late term abortions. And Pennsylvania has 451 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: a law. Here's the great irony of it. Somebody has 452 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 3: a law that was signed by Republicans and Democrats alike, 453 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: and the governor who signed it into place is a 454 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 3: governor named Casey, the father of my opponent, and my 455 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 3: opponent was a pro life ran on as a pro 456 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 3: life senator eighteen years ago, and in two thousand and 457 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 3: eight he flipped his position to be pro choice, and 458 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 3: as recently as two years ago, when Roeve Wade was overturned, 459 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 3: he signed legislation that would have allowed for abortions up 460 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 3: until the due date. So I'm running against somebody here 461 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 3: is who's truly been all over the place on the 462 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: issue of abortion at a time when this is a 463 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: big issue for voters across Pennsylvania. 464 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: You know, Pennsylvania is a critical state both for winning 465 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: the White House as well as winning back the Senate 466 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: male in balloting, and you go back to twenty twenty two. 467 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: I think Biden ended up getting something like three out 468 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: of four mail in ballots that were cast in the state. 469 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: Biden won by less than two two percent of the vote. 470 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: What are you doing on mail balloting? You know? Do 471 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: you think that Republicans are prepared in the state to 472 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: win votes in the manner in which elections are conducted today. 473 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's two things, three things we got 474 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: to get right structurally to win Pennsylvania. By the way, 475 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: Pennsylvanya is becoming a red state. When Donald Trump won 476 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen, there was a million more registered Democrats 477 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: than Republicans. Today it's under four hundred thousand, and the 478 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 3: gaps closing fast. So there's three things we need to do. 479 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 3: The first thing is we need to accelerate that acceleration, 480 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 3: accelerate that registration of Republican voters, and there's an initiatives. 481 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: Underway to do that. 482 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 3: Second thing we need to do is a whole set 483 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 3: of efforts around election integrity. There's all sorts of problems 484 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania. We got sixty seven counties. They all have 485 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: different processes, and whether you think this is a big 486 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 3: problem or a little problem, it's affecting the willingness of 487 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 3: people to vote because they don't think they're voting count 488 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 3: So we need to have a very transparent process of 489 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 3: validating voting machines, of making sure there's chain of custody, 490 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: on making sure there's oversight of drop boxes, of making 491 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 3: sure there's the right observers and legal processes and challenges 492 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: on election day. So election integris Number two third is 493 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 3: the one you mentioned, which is mail in ballots, and 494 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 3: that was a huge Democratic advantage on this. The Democrats 495 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 3: have embraced mail in ballots and they're beating us now 496 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 3: on average seven to one. And there's a huge initiative, 497 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: arguably the largest in the country, many millions of dollars 498 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: being invested by a number of groups to focus on 499 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 3: low propensity voters. These are voters that vote zero, once 500 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 3: or twice in the last four elections and get them 501 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 3: registered for mail in ballots and then get them to 502 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: submit their mail in ballots. And that effort I suspect 503 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 3: will close the gap in Pennsylvania, but not close it completely. 504 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: I think it's going to take multiple election cycles. 505 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: To close it completely. 506 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 3: And you know, part of it is convincing people that 507 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 3: their vote's going to count. By mail in ballot and 508 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 3: that there's a clear way to do it. And so 509 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: we're closely coordinating with the Trump team, with the RNC 510 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: and others to make sure that we have the right 511 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 3: program in place to take advantage of mail in ballots. 512 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 3: It's early on, but I'm encouraged that there's the right 513 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 3: focus and the right resources. 514 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: It's great to hear before we go. Where can people 515 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: go to help? 516 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 3: They can find me at Dave MCCORMICKPA dot com. I'm 517 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: spending most of my time driving across the Great Commonwealth 518 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: of Pennsylvania and my campaign bus, which gets me into 519 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 3: every small town I can find. And you know, it's 520 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 3: sixty seven counties and I'm in. I've this year so far, 521 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 3: I've been in forty seven of them. I've done one 522 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 3: hundred and forty events. I am running a campaign that's 523 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: going to touch people all across our commonwealth and a 524 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 3: good old fashioned retail campaign, and I'm excited about it. 525 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 3: I feel like there's a real change of foot I 526 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 3: can feel it in the air, and I'm excited to 527 00:27:59,160 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 3: be part of it. 528 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: Well, Dave McCormick, good luck. It's an important state. We 529 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: appreciate you making the time for us today. 530 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: Thanks for we have a great day. 531 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: That was Dave McCormick running for Senate in Pennsylvania. Appreciate 532 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: him making the time. You know, these guys have crazy schedules, 533 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: so we really appreciate him making time for the show 534 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. 535 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: I want to think John Cassio for putting the show together. 536 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: Until next time,