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Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans.

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Speaker 1: Healthcare coverage from Farm Bureau Health Plans is like an

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Speaker 1: They've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven with

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Speaker 1: Amy Wells. I'm Mike Keith, and we're here with the

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Speaker 1: man of the hour. We are indeed Ben Jones. Ben Jones,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on a new contract. Met with the media literally

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Speaker 1: processing this moment in your career something you've done before,

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Speaker 1: but never at a point where your kids are this

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Speaker 1: that's special each chapter of your life. This is my

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Speaker 1: fourth contract in the NFL, and every aspect of it's

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Speaker 1: been different. First one is me and my wife, The

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Speaker 1: football in that city is so rare in the National

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Speaker 1: But my wife is so supportive. She was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: do what's best for your future. You can only play

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Speaker 1: Ben Jones returning to the Titans was no laydown, though

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Speaker 1: there was interest on the outside. There were points where

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Speaker 1: in talking to people throughout the country, we thought you

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Speaker 1: but how affirming is that to you? About your reputation,

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Speaker 1: we definitely had interests from other teams around the league.

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Speaker 1: When you play this long and you're out there every Sunday,

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Speaker 1: It's the extra meetings. It's building a team. It's building

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Speaker 1: talking guys about finances, how to raise a family, how

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Speaker 1: Is there a secret to that? I want to be

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Speaker 1: Knowing that you start the off season program one month

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Speaker 1: Losing that game in the first round, it hurt and

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Speaker 1: We are so thrilled that you came by, but even

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Speaker 1: Thank you so good to have a chance to visit

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Speaker 1: Ben Jones means to the organization. Well, Ben Jones has

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Speaker 1: just that situation doesn't work out. It's why when the

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Speaker 1: being able to keep Ben Jones are such a big deal. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: it's a perfect storm. Free agency is there's a lot

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Speaker 1: And the fact that Ben Jones is still a Tennessee

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Speaker 1: are two perfect storms. I'm very excited about. You did

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Speaker 1: Harold was very excited because you know, I mean he's rich. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: line positions and made a start at all four, with

429
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Speaker 1: the exception of center. He's played both right and left

430
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Speaker 1: guard and both right and left tackle. So I would

431
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Speaker 1: say he takes the Kendall Lamb spot guy. Well, I

432
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Speaker 1: mean the designation that when Kendall Lamb signed last offseason

433
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Speaker 1: from Cleveland, the thought was that he would be no

434
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Speaker 1: worse than a swing guy, but probably a starter, would

435
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Speaker 1: have a chance to start. That never worked out, and

436
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: so he's departed, and Jamarco Jones takes that role with

437
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: the hope that he can become a starter and that

438
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: if he's not, he's at least the sixth man. All right,

439
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: I'll take that, Okay. So the Titans have also announced

440
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: they've agreed to terms with running back Trenton Cannon from

441
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Speaker 1: Virginia State. Originally entered the league in twenty eighteen as

442
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick of the Jets. Yes, he is

443
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: a running back, but he is mostly a special teams player.

444
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 1: Thirty eight special teams tackles, had ten last year for

445
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, has run back kicks, had a

446
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: ninety eight yard kickoff return for a touchdown for the

447
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,719
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers in twenty twenty As a running back fifty

448
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 1: one carries one hundred fifty yards, one touchdown, twenty catches

449
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: for one hundred sixty yards. Some people saying, well, the

450
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: Titans let go of Darrenton Evans, so this is the

451
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 1: guy to take that place. I will see if that's

452
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: the case, because I think Cannon comes in as a

453
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Speaker 1: special teamer who's also going to have a chance to

454
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Speaker 1: make a mark as a running back. We shall see.

455
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: And those special teams guys are important. They're very important. Yes,

456
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: And the long game I think is a part of this.

457
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 1: Based on the fact that the Titans have started to

458
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,239
Speaker 1: free up some cap room, I think we're going to

459
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: see them pick they're spots. But you continually every day

460
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: see a guy get cut. You see this player has

461
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: just come on the market, and this player has just

462
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: come on the market. We're going to see that all

463
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: the way to the draft, and then we will see

464
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: it after the draft. So I continue to preach to

465
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: the OT people be patient. Just because the Titans now

466
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: have some cap freedom doesn't mean they are going to

467
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: fill it all right now. Maybe John Robinson has moves

468
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: in mind, but don't be surprised if he doesn't take

469
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: his time. We talk about this every offseason. There are waves,

470
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 1: right and just because something doesn't happen right at the

471
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: very beginning doesn't mean that there aren't things that are

472
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: going to happen later. Everybody, just chill. I want to

473
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: continue with one other thing because I know a lot

474
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: of the OT people are not in the Nashville area. Correct,

475
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: Some of you are in other parts of the state,

476
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: some of you or in other parts of the region.

477
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: We have a lot of friends in Texas and California.

478
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: We know we even have people over seas. Yes, we

479
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: have people who maybe can't get to Nissan Stadium for

480
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: every game. Now, would we like it if you all

481
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: became PSL holders and season ticket members. Yes, that would

482
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: be great. It's probably not realistic, it's not so I

483
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: want to make you aware of something that I've been

484
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 1: working on. I did some commercials this week for our

485
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: flex ticket plans. You can get a two game pack,

486
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: you can get a three game pack, you can get

487
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: a five game package. They're available in club and three

488
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Speaker 1: hundred level. They start at around one hundred and fifty

489
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 1: two dollars, okay roughly, yeah, so you can call six

490
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Speaker 1: one sixty two hundred. They're also group ticket sales. And

491
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Speaker 1: I got to speak to a group from West Tennessee

492
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: this week and they were just really nice. And what

493
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: if you're you're going to bring some friends up you

494
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: want ten people, or you want to bring your men's

495
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: club from church, or your women's club from church, or

496
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: you know what, are a school group or whatever. The

497
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: group ticket thing is awesome. Yeah, it's a great, a

498
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: great way to get everyone too a game. And we

499
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: didn't do it at first for you. No, we didn't

500
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: do it first because we sold out over and over

501
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: and over again, and we kept saying, you know, and

502
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 1: we may be missing something here, understanding that somebody from

503
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: Alabama or somebody from Mississippi or Kentucky or another part

504
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Speaker 1: of the East or West Tennessee or even Middle Tennessee.

505
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: Because for everybody. A season ticket doesn't always make sense.

506
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: So what if you can buy group tickets? You can

507
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: do that minimum of ten. It's two hundred and fifty

508
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: dollars to hold the tickets. So everybody wants the Cowboys game,

509
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 1: everybody wants the Giants game, everybody wants the Raiders game,

510
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: the Broncos game, the Bengals game, whichever game. You can

511
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: do group tickets for all the games. And you can

512
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: do it now. Groups at Titans dot NFL dot com.

513
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: Groups at Titans dot NFL dot com. Here's the other thing,

514
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: the Fireball fast Pass. Tell me more. Well, the fireball

515
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: fast Pass is like the coolest thing possible, especially if

516
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: you're younger. It sounds spicy. Three hundred bucks. You have

517
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: a ticket to every game, every game, all ten. Okay,

518
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: now it's in the three hundred level, and it's not

519
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: going to be the same seat every game. They only

520
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: do fifteen hundred of them. They've just put them on sale.

521
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: Half of them are already going I believe that half

522
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: of them. I mean, they are totally going to sell out.

523
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: But this is the most awesome thing because if you

524
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: spend three hundred dollars and buy the Fireball Fast Pass,

525
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: you are guaranteed a seat in Nissan Stadium for every

526
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: single game. Well, that's the coolest thing I've ever heard. Well,

527
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: it's three hundred bucks right now. The price is going

528
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: to go up May first to three fifty, but I

529
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: don't know that they will all last until then. People

530
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: are in a pound. So I want you as you're listening,

531
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: six one five six five forty two hundred for a

532
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: Fireball Fast Pass, and for the flex plans, that's the

533
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: number six one sixty two hundred. For the groups, it's

534
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 1: groups at Titans dot NFL dot com. But I'm going

535
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: to tell you the Fireball fast passes just one on sale.

536
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: Half of them are already going. The Fireball fast Pass

537
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: is the thing that like people will be sitting around

538
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: and they're like, you know, I just want like I

539
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: just want to go. I'm just thinking about this. Amy

540
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: if you if you only picked three games, you would

541
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: probably spend more than three hundred dollars. Yeah. But the

542
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: thing is, if you go ahead and buy the Fireball

543
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: Fast Pass, you're in. Yeah, you and three of your

544
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: buddies go ahead and go, so you know you're in,

545
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: and then you can be part of it for all

546
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: ten home games. Yeah, which most of the time. If

547
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: I want to go to a sporting event, I just

548
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: want to get in. I just want to be there,

549
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: right well, I want to experience it. But if you're

550
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: younger as I am, as you very young, yes, or

551
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: you're starting a new family, as I also am, maybe

552
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: maybe season tickets don't make sense for you right now? Right?

553
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: Got it? Our whole thing is, well, we want everybody

554
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: to buy a season ticket, and we the renewal rates

555
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: have been phenomenal, as you would guess after the year

556
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: the Titans just had, right, It doesn't make sense for

557
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: everybody because of finances or where you're located or whatever.

558
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: But to give yourself that option through these flex packs,

559
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: I just think our ticket office has done an amazing job. Yeah,

560
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: I think that's great. I'm I'm all in on these.

561
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: And how about being all in on numbers and turning

562
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: not all in on numbers to the numbers lady, Oh gosh,

563
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 1: are you ready? I'm so excited. Favorite person that we

564
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: interviewed it to combine. My favorite person that we talked

565
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: to of the combine who I'm actively working on being

566
00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: my best friend is Cynthia Freeland Cynthia Freeland from NFL Network,

567
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: who is their analytics expert. I'm fascinated by analytics. I

568
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: know you are. You are a numbers man, But analytics

569
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: don't rule my life as far as what I think

570
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: football judgments should be. But they are interesting to be considered.

571
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: And I think that's where Mike Vrabel and John Robinson

572
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: are two. I think they are people who are very

573
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: interested to know what the hard numbers say. You know,

574
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys started this. They started working with computers

575
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies before anybody else did, looking at percentages,

576
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: looking at things of that sort. And Tom Landry was

577
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 1: famous for it. Gil Brandt was famous for it. I mean,

578
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: they wanted to know these things. And it has evolved

579
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: moneyball with the Oakland Athletics and Billy Bean, you know,

580
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: sort of brought it to the forefront. Paul de Podesta,

581
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: who's now with the Cleveland Browns, he was with the

582
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: Oakland A's with Billy Bean, and then was with the

583
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Dodgers, and now he does that for the

584
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. Switching sports, it's a real thing. She has

585
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: become the analytics expert on football and it's it's fascinating. Golly,

586
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: her brain is just amazing, the way that she sees,

587
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: she's processes, and she's so cool. I mean, she's just

588
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: the neatest person. Outside of the fact she's a Detroit

589
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: Lions fan. Well, we don't talk about that, never comes up.

590
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: We leave that alone. But we got to sit down

591
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: with her. We could have kept her for two hours. Yeah,

592
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: we specially requested her from NFL Network because we were

593
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: both fascinated with what she does. I love her segments

594
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: on NFL Network. And here is our talk with the

595
00:31:49,640 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: NFL Networks analytics expert, Sentia Thord Cyndia. We're starting this conversation.

596
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: I think we would be a miss if we didn't

597
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: start by talking about your history, okay, and how you

598
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: got to where you are. Yes, because you have such

599
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: an interesting story and that you did not start anywhere

600
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: broadcasting or broadcast at Jason, so tell us. Yeah, I'm

601
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: saying that she's more intelligent than all of us, but

602
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: you've got to tell us the story of how you

603
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: got from being someone very business and finance centrist yes,

604
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: to broadcasting. I don't really know, but I can tell

605
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: you sort of what happened This is not like a

606
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: do not follow my path kids at home, This is

607
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: not this is a low probability outcome. This is like

608
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: not I don't know. Basically, I worked in the League Office.

609
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: So I went to business school and my summer of

610
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: business school, I had been a banker prize for that,

611
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, I did do something interesting. So

612
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: I cold emailed the then CFO of the NFL and

613
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: I asked for a job, and he gave me an interview,

614
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: and I was able to earn a job, and I

615
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: mean I sent him like a stock right up. He

616
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: was a big stock guy. He subsequently went back to

617
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: Goldman Sachs Twitter. Now he's so far, so interesting whatever.

618
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: So I cold emailed Anthony Noo and I was like,

619
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: I just want to I think this is interesting. I

620
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: liked what you did at Goldman before. I used to

621
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: read all your equity research reports. Here's a stock I

622
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, here's how I think, here's a stock eye research.

623
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: And then that's how I got the interview, and then

624
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: I started working at the League. And then the projects

625
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: that I worked at at the League Office were what's

626
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: the right configuration? Sixteen and four, seventeen and three now

627
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: we're at seventeen and three. How many playoff games do

628
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: we need to keep teams competitive longer? How do we

629
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: keep people healthier? And that's when I really started to learn,

630
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: Like I worked with a competition committee and I watched

631
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: coaches film with coaches, and they taught me like, Okay,

632
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: when the better players are out there, then you get

633
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: better outcomes and games, right, like more competitive games. And

634
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: I started mapping it that way. And then I added

635
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: a data science degree to my MBA when I was finishing,

636
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: and then I learned how to code, and then like

637
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: all this moneyball stuff was happening, I was like I

638
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: can think, I can like figure this out for football

639
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: a little bit. And then I went to Disney because

640
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: there was a lockout, and you know, I didn't want

641
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: to come for the lockout. Was like that did not

642
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: sound good. It wasn't great. No, No, I needed health insurance.

643
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: Your girl needed health insurance. So then I went to

644
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: Disney and I did like big projects are financial strap

645
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: planning a big, big, big scary part of Disney buying lucasfilms,

646
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that. And then ESPN, owned by Disney,

647
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: they were like, we're have an innovation team, Do you

648
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: want to come do big data there? And I was

649
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: like sure, and that's what it was called at the time.

650
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: And then Paul Dipidestic then somehow got hired by the

651
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: Browns and they didn't have any mister like the actual

652
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: and he doesn't look anything like like the character portrayed

653
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: Billy Beans doesn't look like Brad Pitt. Unfortunately for him,

654
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: that's disappointing. Paulides also doesn't like like that Galfinnock is,

655
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: which is maybe better for him, but aways that we

656
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: can talk about at a different times, but you know,

657
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: they didn't have anyone to talk about it on air.

658
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: And at the same time, Draft Kings and all these

659
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: things were coming into the space and you could kind

660
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: of use like the strategy of that to be the

661
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: anti hot take, be like this is why from a

662
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: math point of view, and it just kind of was

663
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: like this confluence of like all the stuff happening at

664
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,479
Speaker 1: the same time, and you kind of can't talk about

665
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: math on TV if you get outed pretty quick, like

666
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: you can't bs your way through it. Some things I

667
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: can be asked my way through, but you can't really

668
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: do that with with math. Okay, so what goes into yeah,

669
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 1: analytics a lot. Okay, yeah, give us a hearty stock.

670
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: Give us some basics of what goes into analytics when

671
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: you're going to pick the Tennessee Indianapolis game. Okay, So

672
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: it's just like stock picking, right, So you look to

673
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: see what are the fundamental So if you look to see, like, okay,

674
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: you take what has happened this season? Who are the personnel?

675
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: How do they match up with the other personnel. Then

676
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: you look for historical references defenses that have really good

677
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: exotic fronts. Always say you gotta say that when you've

678
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: found on the Titans broadcast, right, thank you absolutely, And

679
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: maybe some questions on the back end of the defense,

680
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: how do they fare against teams who you know I

681
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: remember actually specifically for the Rams game. In the Rams game,

682
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: the notes were if they can come out and pressure

683
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: the Rams front very quickly, they're gonna have a hard

684
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: time because the Rams don't adapt and they do not

685
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: do a good job of adapting, especially beginning of the

686
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: season they did not do and on defense they did

687
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: not do a good job of adapting if once they

688
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: got in a whole right, So it's like, if the

689
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: Titans can come out and hit them, and that's what happened.

690
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: So it's kind of cool that it worked out. I

691
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: remember my losses too, Don't don't get me wrong, I

692
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: remember I remember the l But it's all about what

693
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: are the what are the leading what are the things?

694
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: Like though this team looks like this, this team runs

695
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: this type of offense, this team is vulnerable and susceptible

696
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: to this type of defense. How do all of these

697
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: things match up? And where do they kind of where

698
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: does it kind of net out when you add up

699
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: all of those things together? So how do you assign

700
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: a numerical value to something like that? Because it seems

701
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: to someone who is definitely afraid of numbers, shouldn't be

702
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: it all seems very kind of arbitrary, Like, yeah, I

703
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: don't know, how do you assign a numerical value or

704
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: a quantitative ye value to that? We all kind of

705
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: do it a little different. But the way I do

706
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: it is the probability of earning a first down or

707
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: a touchdown, or on defense, the probability of stopping a

708
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: first down or a touchdown. Right, So, and I know

709
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: there's kicking, there's other things involved, but the probability that

710
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,240
Speaker 1: you get yourself into a scoring range or not based

711
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: on the down distance the matchups. This is my offense,

712
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: this is your defense. This is what's been happening, and

713
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: in the game it does adjust because sometimes there's an

714
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: injury or sometimes something changes, and you do it based

715
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: on past precedent for what happened in past situations. When

716
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 1: teams who are configured like the Titans, like someone who's

717
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, let's just pretend Derrick Henry's playing with a

718
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: really really dynamic running back, that changes the game, right,

719
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: and and you know, an offensive line that's typically very good.

720
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: But we're gonna go with the best case, not not injury.

721
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: We're taking without injuries. This team runs the ball. This

722
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: is they look a lot different than the Bills, who

723
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: barely run the ball. Right, So, how did teams that

724
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: look like the Titans in the past, how have they

725
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: fared against defenses that look like let's call the Rams

726
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: in the past. And then you look to see, Okay,

727
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: this is where the pain points are vulnerabilities, and that's

728
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: how the numbers come in because it's like the same

729
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: as that place in the desert that I don't know.

730
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm a league in place, so I don't know anything

731
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: about gambling, but the same way that those Numericans now, Actually, yeah,

732
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't know why I Actually I haven't done my

733
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: compliance training yet, so I'm not entirely sure what I'm

734
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: allowed to do with a long time I know, But

735
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: I just love the way that it goes. Is it

736
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: Basically it's like, do will you get points on this drive?

737
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: What's the expected points on this drive? And what's the

738
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: expected how many drives do you have? And you base

739
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: it on what is it? Looks it's a doppelganger, right,

740
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: you know, like, look, you're a twin because go back

741
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: to baseball. Some guys are sluggers, some guys are single

742
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: and double hitters, and how does that all map together?

743
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: So it's a probability of points. See here's what I

744
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: don't get a bet you're choosing to do football because

745
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: in baseball, the moneyball theory relies a lot about probabilities

746
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: that are very tangible. If I swing it pitches low

747
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: in a way, yep, I hit three forty five. If

748
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: I swing it pitches up again, I hit oh seventy six.

749
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: In basketball, if I go to my left to take

750
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: a fifteen foot jumper, I only make it thirty seven

751
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: percent of the time, but if I go to my right,

752
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: I make it sixty one percent of the time. There

753
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: are a lot more things in football that numbers can't cover, which,

754
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: in my opinion makes your job harder, yeah, than if

755
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: you did it in baseball or basketball, probably hockey as well.

756
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: So why football? Why take on the hard role? Because

757
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: because here's what you know, how many people do what

758
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: I do? Like five? Okay, so I like at one

759
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: point it was none, So I was the best, worst,

760
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: and most average person in the entire industry. Do Yeah,

761
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: there you go. That's amazing. Like you gotta remember it's

762
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: also a probability of me versus my competitors, and there

763
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: aren't that many, so I don't have to be that good.

764
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: How long does it take to put it all to

765
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: a lot? A long time? Yeah, because I actually watched

766
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: the film too. Some people don't watch it. I watched

767
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: the film. I used computer vision, so I get to

768
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: measure some things other people don't. It's like it's it's

769
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: basically like finding It's like the next gen stats wily.

770
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: I can measure anything that I want. It just takes

771
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: a long time because the way that it looks like

772
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: a tellustrator almost right, it can measure the circle around

773
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: a receiver, how fast receivers running. So I love the

774
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: combine because we get to see how fast these wide

775
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: receivers are going to run with forty in a straight

776
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: line without any pads. But none of that stuff matters.

777
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: But really matters is what is the speed on the

778
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: field and the pads for a crossing route or a

779
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: go route? Like what is the reality of that? Like

780
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: this is fun, Like these guys are nothing. I'm not

781
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: going to bed room. I don't care if you're bench

782
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: president or not. You're like who cares? Right, Like you

783
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: know these are what do you see in the game?

784
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: Well that that's like Derrick Henry. Yeah, Derrick Henry's forty

785
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: was four or five four or something, which is good,

786
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: but it's in range. But if you look at him

787
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: on GPS right when he's running with the ball right

788
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: and he breaks the line of scrimmage, he's one of

789
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: the fastest guys in the league. Forty is not the fastest,

790
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: but because because none of that matters, but it matters,

791
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: it matters everything here. Yeah, So that's why I'm saying, well,

792
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: take any data point, right, We'll take any data point,

793
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: why not. I'll tell you there are ranges that are

794
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: what what you really want to look is, is something

795
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: out of range, meaning there are ranges for And I

796
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: put out an article you can I have I show

797
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: all my work. You can see all my ranges, and

798
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: you look to see like a prototype like Derrick Henry

799
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: type running back. As long as they fall in range,

800
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: then go back to the film. If something weird happens

801
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: between what you saw in college and now, like someone

802
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: gets considerably slower or something like if you run like

803
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: a five something and you're running like that's maybe you're

804
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: out of shape, maybe you're have a knee and it's

805
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: just a flag for something old. Maybe they didn't get

806
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: old in three months two months. It does happen though, right, Yeah, Well,

807
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: I'm a believer in what you do. That's why that's

808
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: why I'm asking the questions because I just think it's

809
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: so hard, and I think you have identified data points

810
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: that you've you've been able to apply analytics in this way,

811
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: which didn't sit because I am a number scat. Yeah,

812
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: it's so it didn't seem like that would be something

813
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: that anybody would be able to do. And it feels

814
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: like you've captured something. How much further do you think

815
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: you can go? I'm like kind of unabashedly say that,

816
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: like my my my goal eventually if I would stay

817
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: on this is like one I like creating this space

818
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: because I think it's a tool in the tool belt

819
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 1: for teams. It's also a tool in the tool belt

820
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: for media because it's really nice to have. Like we

821
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: say he's overpaid, he's under Well, if you don't know

822
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: what paid is, then what like where's the line? Right?

823
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: Like I make a joke. This is terrible English, Like

824
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm not a grammar or English, but like there's right overwhelmed, underwhelm, Well,

825
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: what's whelmed? And I actually know there's a definition of whelmed.

826
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: But don't worry about I don't let don't let details

827
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: get in the way of a good story, right, So

828
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: you know like that to me, it's it's how do

829
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: you define that something? You can tell the story right

830
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: ahead of the story. You say, hey, Ryan Tannehill is

831
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: one of the best quarterbacks using play action pass in

832
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: the league. If they can get the ball running, the

833
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: play action pass works. This is how it works. Right

834
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: Then in the middle of the game, you're like Hey,

835
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: the play action pass isn't working. Why Well, Derek Henry

836
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: got hurt and they're not able to disguise the runs.

837
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: So play actions not working this game? What are they

838
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: going to do in the second half? Well, then you

839
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: pay it off at the end. Hey, they were actually

840
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: able to use play action pass because they're running back

841
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know what I'm saying, Like, So the

842
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: point is is you're just getting something that's not like,

843
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: I don't like this person or that person that's not

844
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: my I don't I don't care about like or dislike.

845
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: It's about here's what the data is saying. And I

846
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: can tell you who I like later, but like, you know,

847
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 1: in the moment, it's like, what is this strategy working?

848
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 1: And if not? What? Because I love the chess match,

849
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: right Like the chess match is the best part of football. Right,

850
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: are you gonna be able to adapt when you when

851
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: this happens? Are you what, Oh, we're down twenty one points?

852
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: Like now what does the game plan look? Right? Oh?

853
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: Like so and I then that's the so if you

854
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: don't know if like this is a weird thing or not?

855
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: Is this an anomaly or not? Right? Like should this

856
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: have happened, or if so, if you give a little

857
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: more context and a richness too, Like I don't want

858
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: to bore you with numbers. I'm just going to use

859
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: those numbers to help you like tell the story and

860
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: like enjoy and engage with the game a little bit.

861
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: It's less about like the number seven and if it's

862
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: not seven, then it's not right, like who cares, But

863
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: it's it's like, hey, like if they can get more

864
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: than seven, you know, if they can pressure more than

865
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: twenty percent of the time in the first half, like

866
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: this is how the Titans upset the Rams, you know, whatever,

867
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: so something like that, you know, So it's it's more context.

868
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: I am so amazed by this. And first off, you

869
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: guys had like a two minute conversation where I understood

870
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: no words except for like and the because my brain

871
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: just does not break that way you guys are speaking Mandarin.

872
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: But I think this is so incredible, not only as

873
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: a tool for medium members, not only as a tool

874
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: for understanding and engaging with the game better, but also

875
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: there are so few women in the math and science realm. Seriously,

876
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: to see, I don't want to be a team president.

877
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: That's what I want to see if I would go

878
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: on that side of I don't want to be a

879
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: GM because they get fired too often, Like sure as heck,

880
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: don't want to be a coach, Yeah, no, I want

881
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: to be at president they get Plus I also have

882
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: like a business background, so I feel like, see, I

883
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: want to be best friends with you, Like I'm having

884
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: a moment, right, nonlet's this is this is a serious thing.

885
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: But don't you think you have more credibility in this

886
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: because you love ball? Yes, and because I'll sit with

887
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: a coach and r and I also have no shame

888
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: in asking where the heck is the safety supposed to

889
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: be because by the way, even people who played ball,

890
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: they don't know no players. So so I sit there

891
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Mike, coach, can I can you tell me?

892
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: Because Rabel is the best one to ask, like all

893
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: those people with the crazy leverages and like the false

894
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: like oh, we're here to show you mad but really

895
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: in zoom really and show you like all these crazy

896
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: stuff that this is their mind and that's awesome. And

897
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: by the way, so Dan pas you here's my like

898
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: Dean Peace. Yes, I grew up in East Lansing, Michigan.

899
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: Dean Pease was in Michigan State when I was in

900
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: high school. When I was a freshman in high school,

901
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 1: his wife, Melody Peace, was my volleyball coach. So it's

902
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: all coming full circle right that when I was like

903
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: fourteen years old, as a team tried to hire you.

904
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: They have how many teams have tried to hire you? Well,

905
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: I do projects for teams, and I've done projects for

906
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: about thirteen teams and I think it's thirteen or fourteen,

907
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: you can't remember. And that's really like awesome. I try

908
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: to get other people full time jobs, like I think

909
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: people need health injured health insurance, Kike for whatever reason,

910
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: and team gear, you know, team gearing, and actually had

911
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: a guy. It made me feel really good last night,

912
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: Like someone came up to me from the Jags and

913
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: he was like, you posted a job. I applied to

914
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: it because of your posting on Twitter and I got

915
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 1: the job. And I was like, you're wearing the team

916
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: issued gear. Do you have health insurance? He's like yes.

917
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: It was like my job here is done. Like I

918
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: just I want to shine a light. Yeah no, I'm like,

919
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: this is very exciting. So I but I would like

920
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: to the team has it has to be the right

921
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: team with the right set of people who work there,

922
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: because I don't want to. I'm I don't want to

923
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: have a bad experience like I don't want to have,

924
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, like it can be. We all know there

925
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: have times when things get it, teams get very toxic.

926
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: We see it. It It blows up. That's why eight coaches

927
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: get hired every year. Right, So I'd like to be

928
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: in a space where I feel like, Okay, this is

929
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: when I'm gonna push my chips in. I'm gonna push

930
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: him in for somewhere where like the coach and the

931
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: GM are on the same page, and the front office

932
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: people and there's a lot of like respect and love

933
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 1: and mutual stuff. Like there's there's some really great teams

934
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: and really great humans out there. I'm gonna wait till

935
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: those people are in the right spot and then they

936
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: want to hire me, you know, I'll oh wait till that.

937
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want. I don't need to jump

938
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: for like some toxic craziness. Oh thank you, Oh gosh,

939
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: I hope that's our team. I'll tell you we're best friends.

940
00:46:51,760 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: It's right, it's all She's cool. I'll tell you what

941
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: ninety percent of that interview was you guys talking numbers

942
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: at each other, and my head was just spinning in circles.

943
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: I'm not a numbers person. I so desperately want to be.

944
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: I'm the strangest type of math person because I was

945
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,479
Speaker 1: good in math in school except geometry. Geometry is different, though,

946
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean I couldn't do it, yeah, but numbers always

947
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: did well in trigonometry, calculus, everything leading up to it.

948
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: Horrible at science though, you know, because everybody's supposed to

949
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: be a math science person. Yeah. I mean I barely

950
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: got through science in high school and college. Could not

951
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: get it, couldn't figure it out. But math totally totally

952
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: loved it. I could do science because there was words involved,

953
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: and so I could work my way through a situation

954
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: because someone could explain it to me. So I come

955
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: up with various analytical things that I do equations on

956
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: and figure out about us, and I'll share them with Amian.

957
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: Obviously she never reads them. No, I read them ninety

958
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: percent of the time. I have no idea what they say,

959
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: but I really enjoy them, and sometimes I like to

960
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: drop them. If I have ever used any sort of

961
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: a statistic or number in a broadcast anywhere in my

962
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: whole life. Right, it was fed to me by someone

963
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: else one percent of the time. I'm great one hundred

964
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: percent because I know what that means. But really, truly,

965
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: and I am not too proud to say it. If

966
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: I use a number, somebody said you should say this

967
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: exact thing, and so I could get you in trouble.

968
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: Run Burgundy, Well, I mean, I only take it from

969
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: trusted sources like Mike Keith, Stay classy, san Diego. I

970
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: only take it from people like Mike Keith who feed

971
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 1: me real information. I assume because I can't fact check

972
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: it that I have many leather bound books in my apartment.

973
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: Smells of mahogany. Oh no, we're devolving. This is where

974
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: we're getting into Run Burgundy. Now you're gonna go back

975
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: and watch anchor man I am, He'll read whatever's on

976
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 1: the prompter. Yes, oh boy, is this the longest OTP?

977
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: And that this is not the longest OTP. Ashley Farrell says, No,

978
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: it feels like it is, but it's good. It's a

979
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: good recap. It's our first one since the combine. Yeah,

980
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: and there has been a lot of news. Again, we

981
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: wanted to wait as long as possible so that we

982
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 1: could have the most all inclusive podcast, and we wanted

983
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: to run Cynthia Freeland. Golly, you guys needed to hear

984
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: Cynthia Freeland choose just so cool. But also we wanted

985
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: to make sure we had a chance to talk to

986
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: our returning Titans. Yes, we could keep everybody updated. We're

987
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: all not being informative for the OT people. We've got

988
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff coming to There's a ton, We've

989
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: got a ton of cool stuff coming. It's cool, It's

990
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: gonna be great cool. I'm so far so thanks to

991
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans, thanks to Ben Jones, thanks to

992
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,479
Speaker 1: Harold Landry, thanks to Cynthia Freeland. Thanks to you Amy

993
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: Wells for carrying the ball on all of this. You've

994
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: been working very hard. I've been working very hard. And

995
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: thank you as always Ashley Farrell for what she does

996
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: for Amy, I might and this for the OT people

997
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: is the welcome to the big Show where the legends go.

998
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: Everybody knows it's our house thought Tennessee making its tore

999
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: greatness is meant to be