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Speaker 2: Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 4: Welcome everyone in Kentucky Sports Radio Tuesday. It's March twenty six.

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Speaker 4: I'm Matt Jones. We are all in studio here in

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Speaker 4: Lexington except Shannon. Shannon is in uh is in Louisville.

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Speaker 4: phones here in just a little bit. A vision Autoglass

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Speaker 4: Law Office called Tj'll make them pay guys. It is

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Speaker 4: was a big twenty four hours. I guess Ryan, you

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Speaker 5: Want to say that you guys did a great job yesterday.

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Speaker 5: I listened to the whole show, and I thought you

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Speaker 5: guys were good. I think you bought the topics that

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Speaker 5: needed to be discussed. You were fair about it.

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Speaker 4: You're saying it like surprised.

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Speaker 5: Well, I get I was. I was a proud big

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Speaker 4: But isn't he saying it like I'm shocked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like normally you gotta suck without.

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Speaker 4: Me, normal way it would have worked, and for some

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Speaker 4: reason yesterday, Drew you all were able to handle it.

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Speaker 4: It's what it sounds like to me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we didn't trip over our own feet setting up

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Speaker 6: the equipment. I feel like you're just proud we got

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Speaker 6: it done it all. We have Ryan's approval though.

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Speaker 4: That's good. I mean, like you know, I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: like you just thought without you here we would collapse.

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Speaker 7: It was.

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Speaker 5: It's a different element to be a listener and to

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Speaker 5: hear it from that side, and I was very I

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Speaker 4: Yes, thank you. So let's go over what's happened about

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Speaker 4: five thirty yesterday Matt Norlander. And then very soon after

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Speaker 4: lots of other people put out that John that Mitch

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Speaker 4: Martin Harden made the decision to keep Cal assuming that

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Speaker 4: their meeting today went well. And it sort of later

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Speaker 4: became clear that it's kind of what I said on

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Speaker 4: have to do these however, many things the department of

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Speaker 4: and assuming that conversation goes well, he will be brought back.

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Speaker 4: If it does not, then maybe a change could be made.

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Speaker 4: But the assumption is Mitch wants to keep Cal. That

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Speaker 4: four different sources. I think the basketball people put that

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Speaker 4: And then at six o'clock Cal does his radio show,

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Speaker 4: and now we wait for the meeting today whenever it happens.

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Speaker 4: So let's start with I guess let's do a little

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Speaker 5: You and I talked on Sunday and I said, I

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Speaker 5: And then so getting in there, I think.

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Speaker 4: It was off the table. Well, I think he decided

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Speaker 4: So, let's assume you're objective or is. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: The time has come where some changes absolutely need to

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Speaker 5: got a ten year lifespan, and after that ten years,

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Speaker 5: it's progress not where it needs to be. I need

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Speaker 5: And we all would love him again. Okay, but you

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Speaker 5: remember at this time last year, Matt, at the exact

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Speaker 4: I think where we were last year, the administration is

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Speaker 4: Yep, where we were, and I think a lot of

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Speaker 8: He would almost have to.

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Speaker 6: Build an insane all star roster to get any kind

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Speaker 6: they went zero to two in March Madden. I'm never

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Speaker 6: Like there are a lot of people that think, how

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Speaker 6: In Kentucky basketball, a big part of it is the

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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a not fun offseason because

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's much cal can say that will

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Speaker 4: I worry about is you lose. What happened? Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 4: I here's what I'd like to do. And I'm not

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Speaker 4: that if at the end of today John cal Perry

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Speaker 4: talking about whether he should be the coach is kind

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Speaker 4: what's next year going to be like? But yesterday I

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Speaker 4: And it ended up but probably eighty to eighty five percent.

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Speaker 4: it at eighty five percent people said change. Now I'd

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Speaker 4: like to know what they say. Today. Cal spoke to

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Speaker 4: So with that twenty four hours of knowledge, if you

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Speaker 4: want to see if it changed it all. So just

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter if you voted yesterday or not. I still

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Speaker 4: think it'll be a good sample size. And Shannon, I

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Speaker 4: want to see did it change anyone's mind? So keep

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Speaker 4: her change out. Let's go through it and I'll look

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Speaker 4: Do you think it will have changed people's mind?

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Speaker 8: Shannon, No, not at all.

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Speaker 3: And if you listened to it last night to John Caliperry,

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Speaker 3: I don't think he said anything that's going to change

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Speaker 2: If you believe that.

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Speaker 3: Cal should still be here, you probably still believe that.

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Speaker 3: probably still believe that. I don't think anything changed based

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Speaker 3: on what happened last night on the Coaches Show.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to see as I as I watched

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Speaker 4: this if the overall because you know, I mean, there's

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Speaker 4: a control which was yesterday Ryan. You know what a

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Speaker 8: When you do an experiment, Yeah, you have the norm, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then you have the your testing, your do you

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Speaker 4: know what they called it? Your guess? What's you know

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Speaker 4: what the scientific term for a guess that you're testing?

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Speaker 4: You know what that is?

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Speaker 8: Does it start with V?

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Speaker 4: Does not start with me? Right now? The variable is

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Speaker 4: what is the object you're testing? But your guess is

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Speaker 4: a hypothesis. No, my man is a scientist.

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Speaker 5: I slipped at a holiday and express last night.

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Speaker 4: All right, I like that you're a scientist. We're back science. Uh,

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Speaker 4: let's see what what what? What comes up? Now? What

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Speaker 4: he said yesterday taught for like an hour. A lot

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Speaker 4: of it was callisms. They're not robots, blah blah blah

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Speaker 4: blah blah. Did you what did you think was notable

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Speaker 6: We're not showing this or changing the standard for anyone.

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Speaker 6: You know, Kentucky were champ chips. We only hang banners

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Speaker 6: He's always done the if you want to help your

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Speaker 4: your calls. Louisville is going nuts right now. It's there's

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Speaker 4: Kentucky Sports Radio. Welcome Mack. It is Kentucky Sports radio.

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Speaker 4: I'm still getting texts from five minutes ago. But this

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Speaker 4: At some point, one person writes, Matt, your poll is

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Speaker 4: representative of your show. Yeah. I mean that's true. But

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Speaker 4: guess people out there could say, well, Matt, you are

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Speaker 4: to me, this show is the most representative the fan

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Speaker 4: listeners who are polling Ryan, I don't know a better

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Speaker 5: Well, I remember, like when we went through Tubby used

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Speaker 8: That was the big poll.

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Speaker 8: You can't do that now.

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Speaker 5: And the text line? You can pretty much remain anonymous.

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Speaker 4: So Jana, I mean, what's a better way to polls?

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Speaker 2: No, I think that's the best way. I mean, everybody's

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Speaker 4: Everybody's got it. I'm not making your call, so you

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Speaker 4: But you know, poem's hard. Now, you know. In twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 4: Trump's people were un under polled and their guesses as

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Speaker 6: You can't do it on social media either, because and

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Speaker 4: Totter has in part because now so many accounts are anonymous.

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Speaker 5: I think it's will be a fair representative, like I said,

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Speaker 4: But you can once because you have no number, or

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Speaker 4: I think UK hopes today he is a not a

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Speaker 4: when it came out. When I can't put him as

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Speaker 4: even though we may not know who he is. Ryan,

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Speaker 4: if Mitch pulls this off, and I'm told they're willing

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Speaker 4: to pay him top ten money in America, well you.

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Speaker 5: Said, I think his calling card is he is able

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Speaker 5: to rebuild a program and get it back.

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Speaker 4: To another And he built James Madison, Yeah, the one

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Speaker 4: and they got good. And then he went to Virginia

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Speaker 4: Tech and they got good. So to me, and like

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Speaker 4: they're willing to pay him, I'm told top of the

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Speaker 4: SEC money behind Don Staley. Well if that's and I

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Speaker 4: guess Kim Maulky, if you're the third highest paid coach

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Speaker 4: ten in the country. So Drew, obviously they really believe

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Speaker 6: I read up him and read up on him in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 6: When his name first popped up, it was a vam.

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Speaker 6: I took them from something and he played at James

457
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Speaker 6: Madison also coached there too, so he's got James Madison ties.

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Speaker 6: But Virginia Tech was nothing when he got there, and

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Speaker 6: he had him in the final four. He's got I

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Speaker 6: think seven or eight WNBA players, so he recruits well.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a guy who seems to check all

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Speaker 6: the boxes.

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Speaker 4: So even though we kind of gotten lost in this

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Speaker 4: other thing, the women's basketball program here was very competitive

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Speaker 4: for a decade. It would be nice to get them

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Speaker 4: back there.

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Speaker 5: I don't envy Mitch Barhart to have to do this,

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Speaker 5: find a women's coach and now deal with the men's

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Speaker 8: Probably goes well?

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Speaker 4: One person writes, Matt, I get what you're saying, but

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Speaker 4: the best representation you'll get and I firmly believe that.

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Speaker 5: And numbers are sky high right now listening to this show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we Shinnon turned the phone lines off

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Speaker 4: and we didn't say and within what two seconds they

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Speaker 4: were all full? Shannon?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, which means people have been calling for thirty you've.

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Speaker 4: Been calling forever. Yeah, I mean, yesterday's show will end

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Speaker 4: up top ten in America in sports podcast. Everybody cares.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and they like record traffic on Like everybody cares.

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Speaker 4: And I'm glad that shows that the thing Shannon said

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Speaker 4: yesterday about apathy is not there, because that's where it

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Speaker 4: gets bad. When there's apathy, that's when your program's in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Just all my dunes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you, I mean, look who you hang out with.

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Speaker 2: You I got some good friends. Like I'm not watching

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Speaker 2: another game, They're lying.

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Speaker 4: First of all, anybody says they're not watching, they are lying.

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Speaker 4: The people I know that were the biggest cow critics.

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Speaker 4: They watched every game. Like I hate when people say

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Speaker 4: I'm not watching Drew, that's a lie. Now you might

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Speaker 4: not watch when they play stone Hill, but when they

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Speaker 4: play Tennessee, you're watching.

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Speaker 6: And you'll be cheering and you'll be just what we do.

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Speaker 6: I wrote the US on our board yesterday, no matter

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Speaker 6: who's the coach. I don't really know a scenario where

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Speaker 6: Kentucky's playing basketball and I would be rooting for the

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Speaker 6: other team. Of course not we have an all time

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Speaker 6: win record to chase I don't want to lose. Grip

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Speaker 6: on that we don't get draft picks for tanking. You're

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Speaker 6: in no world do I want Kentucky to lose.

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Speaker 4: Ever. I hate when people say you're not a fan.

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Speaker 4: If but you're not a fan if you're cheering against

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Speaker 4: the team. No.

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Speaker 6: At any point, they could have the fifteen most unlikable

535
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Speaker 6: people on the planet, and I'd be like, I don't

536
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Speaker 6: love this roster, but we got on every game.

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Speaker 4: If they hire Donald Trump to be the coach, say

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Speaker 4: I am going to every game and saying go Cats,

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Speaker 4: right right, I think you should be considered.

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Speaker 2: Go coach Trump.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd have a good relationship with him, probably on

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Speaker 3: the on the bet.

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Speaker 4: I bet he'd like me.

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Speaker 8: He'd probably come on this show.

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Speaker 4: Would come on the show. I almost going to do

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Speaker 4: my impression, but they can't see my hands.

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Speaker 2: Give me what good right now?

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Speaker 4: I can't do that. It's I just want to drop.

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Speaker 4: I get I got enough people yelling at me. I

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Speaker 4: don't need to add the uh uh it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: the best team. I'm not gonna do that.

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Speaker 6: Ma, Kentucky basketball great again?

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Speaker 4: Had if that was a right John, go ahead, John? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: hey man, how are you what's going on.

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Speaker 9: Hey, listen, yesterday you had that gentleman on and he

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Speaker 9: seemed like, you know, he was a straight shooter. As

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Speaker 9: far as talking about the n I L situation with

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Speaker 9: the Antonio Reeves, correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't we

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Speaker 9: have someone in charge of n I L and then

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Speaker 9: he left U for North Carolina or another job?

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Speaker 4: He did, but he was not I mean, I don't

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Speaker 4: he left for North Carolina, Yeah, but it was not really.

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Speaker 4: He still is following the directives of the people in charge,

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Speaker 4: like he.

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Speaker 9: Was in charge of Kentucky's.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, I think that's fair to say.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, But then you know, from what this gentleman

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Speaker 9: said in the timeline, Antonio had a six figure deal

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Speaker 9: and I was probably one of the reasons maybe why

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Speaker 9: he came back. Did anybody in the basketball department hand

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Speaker 9: this off to anybody?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know, I mean what he

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Speaker 4: I have no information, and I appreciate the call. I

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Speaker 4: have no information about all that beyond what he said.

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Speaker 4: And while I know who Nate is and know he's

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Speaker 4: done a lot of deals, I mean, I'm not going

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Speaker 4: to independently say everything he said is correct. Because I

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Speaker 4: don't know. Here's what I do know. For two years,

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Speaker 4: NIL at Kentucky was a problem because some of the

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Speaker 4: players that came in here going back to the Oscar

581
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Speaker 4: year didn't feel like they got what they were kind

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Speaker 4: of assuming they were going to get. I think there

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Speaker 4: was a little bit of that this year, but I

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Speaker 4: think a lot of that stuff has been improved, and

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Speaker 4: I don't know that that will be a problem going forward.

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Speaker 4: I think some of the law Familia stuff was in

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Speaker 4: part to try to organize what had been a very

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Speaker 4: disorganized process. And I'm not gonna speak for anybody that left,

589
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Speaker 4: but I think some of the frustration about the lack

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Speaker 4: of organization is why some people were went in other directions.

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Speaker 4: But I do think that stuff is on the way

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Speaker 4: to being better, if it's not already better now. But

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Speaker 4: as far as Nates claim, I have no reason to

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Speaker 4: doubt it. But I also am not gonna act like

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Speaker 4: I know I wasn't there. You know, so it is,

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Speaker 4: you know, you can everybody can make their own determinations.

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Speaker 4: Let's go to to What's up t.

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Speaker 7: O Hey, Matt, God bless you guys, love the show.

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Speaker 8: Listen you day.

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Speaker 7: I just want to say that it's proven to me.

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Speaker 7: Every year when Kentucky gets beat out in the first round,

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Speaker 7: I stopped watching the tournament. This year, I decided to

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Speaker 7: watch the games, and almost every team I watched, I

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Speaker 7: feel like we would have beat Kentucky. Every game was

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Speaker 7: extremely physical. All the teams were going and rebound and

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Speaker 7: playing defense, just absolutely given one hundred percent effort.

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Speaker 4: And if you look at our.

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Speaker 7: Games as Saint Peter's and this year, I mean, it

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Speaker 7: was just I don't know, it's like our guys were

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Speaker 7: just completely asleep.

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Speaker 4: We have seen you say that I watched drew more

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Speaker 4: of the tournament after us out this year than I

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Speaker 4: ever have normally. I'm like that guy, Thank you, t

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Speaker 4: I. I appreciate the moment we lose. I'm done. This year.

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Speaker 4: I watched a lot. You and I were driving Friday,

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Speaker 4: but I watched a lot of the game Saturday and Sunday.

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Speaker 4: And when I watched, I did think all of these

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Speaker 4: teams would have beaten us up. Now, I do think

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Speaker 4: we would have scored on a lot of the teams.

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Speaker 4: We could have beaten any of them. But like when

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Speaker 4: I watched Purdue and I watched Yukon, I was like

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Speaker 4: I don't know if we would.

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Speaker 6: Have had that without even watching a lot of other games.

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Speaker 6: Just in the second half of Oakland, I was thinking,

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Speaker 6: even if we come back, how is this team going

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Speaker 6: to keep going up in class for five more wins

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Speaker 6: to to get to a national championship. I also think

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Speaker 6: just looking at results, and it's not my opinion, the

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Speaker 6: big bad SEC that we thought we were getting these

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Speaker 6: big wins and over these big great coaches, they got

631
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Speaker 6: out coached and outplayed. Wasn't just they were upset. I

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Speaker 6: mean they looked pretty bad and a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Their performances to A and M played pretty well, Tennessee

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Speaker 4: played well.

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Speaker 6: But South Carolina you thought, we thought they're a tough

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Speaker 6: team with goods and they got smoked.

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Speaker 4: Auburn to state, Mississippi state disaster. I mean we you know,

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Speaker 4: we all were saying, you know, one of the arguments

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Speaker 4: always been all the SEC so much better, so much harder.

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Speaker 4: They didn't look like it in the tournament this year, And.

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Speaker 5: Like Drew said, this seemed like all the SEC games

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Speaker 5: that I watched, it was the physical physicality was on

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Speaker 5: the other end all the SEC and.

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Speaker 6: He and N played very very physical. Buzz has some

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Speaker 6: magic with the postseason. It's like three straight years of

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Speaker 6: they're on the bubble.

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Speaker 4: Does make a run and they were doing down eleven

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Speaker 4: with a minute and a half left and came.

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Speaker 8: Back back and tied it, put it over and then you.

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Speaker 4: Know, Houston, did you see that kid the walk on

651
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Speaker 4: have to shoot that free throw?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine that pressure.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine he shot to missed. He missed the

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Speaker 4: first one and it looked like he needed to go

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Speaker 4: to the restaurant, like I mean he was. But then

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Speaker 4: he made the second one. A moment, I mean, you

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Speaker 4: haven't played all year and they put you in and

658
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Speaker 4: then you get fouled, and.

659
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 8: He had to look like gold.

660
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,239
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be able to physically hold the basketball. But

661
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 4: then he made the second one and they were able

662
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 4: to win the neck game. Go ahead, Darren, what's up? Darren?

663
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 9: What going on?

664
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 4: Guys?

665
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 10: Can you hear me?

666
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 4: Yes? I just want to.

667
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 9: Just driving.

668
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 10: H got a lot of things to say, man, but

669
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 10: I tell you, I'll just try to hit the highlights here.

670
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 4: The give me your two bad your two most important ones.

671
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 10: Well, I just you know me and my dad, I've

672
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 10: been a Kentucky fan all my life. I'm forty six

673
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 10: year old in July, and you know Menu's probably around

674
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 10: the same age. And I tell you, man, I've been

675
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 10: a Kentucky fan since I was a little kid, and.

676
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 8: I love Kentucky.

677
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 11: Man.

678
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 10: I loved these players, you know. Me and my dad

679
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 10: was talking about it, and he was telling me stripping to'bacca,

680
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 10: you know, when he was a little kid in the

681
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 10: sixties when Rutt was the coach, you know, and listening

682
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 10: to him on the radio, why he was stripping tobacco

683
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 10: and stuff. But anyway, I'll get to my point. You know,

684
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 10: Cal done a super good job the first ten years

685
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 10: or whatever, but I just think the game's just outran him,

686
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 10: to be honest with you, And I don't know, man,

687
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 10: if he can't get at least three or four of

688
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 10: these guys to come back, I mean he needs. His

689
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 10: biggest problem is he don't have nobody physical inside in

690
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 10: my opinion, But if he could get reading them, I

691
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 10: think that would help him tremendously, man. But he's got

692
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 10: to get some kind of inside presence because we are

693
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 10: weak inside. I mean no offense star players. I love

694
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 10: saying them, but they just get I mean they if

695
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 10: they get bumped. I like they can plum off.

696
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 4: They were. Man, You're exactly right. I appreciate the call.

697
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 4: One of the things that's been clear year after year

698
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 4: in the tournament is the ref swalder whistle a lot more.

699
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 4: It's a much more physical game in the tournament. And

700
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 4: we got and you know, Cal said over and over,

701
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: we got to get more physical. Somebody wrote and asked me, Matt,

702
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 4: do you believe in the changes that Cal said? I

703
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 4: sat in the in the parking lot of the mall

704
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: Mall parking lot, listen to that last night because I

705
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 4: just happened to be over there and I wanted to focus.

706
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 4: I picture you, like sitting on your hood with the music. No,

707
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 4: I was sitting in my car. I was about to

708
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 4: go in somewhere and need listen to the whole thing.

709
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 4: And I mean this. I thought he did a fine job.

710
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 4: I thought his tone was good considering what was going on.

711
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 4: But Ryan, I don't mean this to be rude, just

712
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 4: a fact. Nothing he says is going to change my mind, Like,

713
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 4: not because I don't believe him, but because like he

714
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 4: just he just talks. You know, I'm gonna have to

715
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 4: see it, right, I'm gonna have to see it and

716
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 4: then I'll believe it. This is no offense to him.

717
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 4: But like we've heard the same speech for fifteen years,

718
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 4: it's all gonna be about what happens when they play, right.

719
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 5: That's what we go back to. We said this at

720
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 5: this point last year. You know, this was supposed to

721
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 5: be the year where he had all these guys and

722
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 5: things were gonna get better, and we were believing in him.

723
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 4: But I don't think the administration felt that way. I

724
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 4: think the fans did. The biggest takeaway I took from

725
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 4: this weekend Ryan is the administration had no idea how

726
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 4: the fans felt.

727
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 8: How can he be that out of touch with it?

728
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 4: Well, let's be real. If you're not on social media,

729
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 4: if you don't listen to the radio, if all you

730
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 4: see are news reports, how would you know? I mean,

731
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 4: how would you Yeah, that's why you gotta be as

732
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 4: my as my mom would say, amongst them and this

733
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 4: stat they aren't. Vince Merrow is amongst them. He is

734
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 4: Mark Pittsburgh. Yeah, I mean he was in Pittsburgh taking

735
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: pictures because he went to Nashville. The basketball staff is

736
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 4: not like that, and the athletics department is not like that.

737
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 4: They just aren't. I mean, and that's not I'm not

738
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 4: criticizing them. Everybody should live their life the way they want.

739
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 4: But how would you know and if you're with if

740
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: your if you're cal And I said this on my

741
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 4: Twitter space, I think Caliperry and a lot of people

742
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: in the basketball office blamed us, me specifically, but us

743
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 4: well Matt and em or just you know, they're just

744
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 4: leading the fans whatever. But if you really believe that,

745
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 4: then you just assume any criticism is not real fans? Right?

746
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 4: How many times you hear Cal this year say real fans?

747
00:35:59,280 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 11: You know?

748
00:35:59,600 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 4: Right?

749
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 8: Yeah?

750
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 4: I think this was the first time everybody stepped back

751
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: and will whoa, there's a lot out there. Maybe that'll

752
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 4: be a humbling experience. We'll see. I don't know if

753
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 4: I'm nine to two a doho uh twenty two eighty seven.

754
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,759
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755
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756
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757
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758
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759
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762
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Speaker 4: break back KSR. Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio. If I'm

763
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 4: nine two eight h twenty two eighty seven. This story

764
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 4: in Baltimore is awful, isn't it.

765
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 8: The video of that bridge collapsing is horrifying.

766
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 4: I mean think, I mean it's awful. Thank god it

767
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 4: was in the middle of the night. Yes, what if

768
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 4: it was during like rush hour? That bridge is a

769
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 4: mile and a half long.

770
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 5: Wow, And it looked like just like a lego bridge

771
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 5: is the way it fell, and says so sad that

772
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 5: they are, They're very lucky.

773
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 8: Was it one thirty in the morning. There's no doubt.

774
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess the singing the guy's ship. The power

775
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: went out so we couldn't steer it, so we couldn't

776
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 4: see you see the smoke coming up was apparently him

777
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 4: trying to like take it in reverse, but he couldn't

778
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: couldn't do it. You see those video Shenning of the

779
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 4: cars that looks like they got through right before it happened.

780
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 4: Could you imagine, could you imagine if you were on

781
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 4: that bridge, Like.

782
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, seven people was tragic, but it could have been

783
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: a lot worse.

784
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 4: It could have been a lot Oh yes, on a

785
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: mile and a half bridge. I mean, and that's a

786
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 4: big like, that's an I mean, it's sad, awful what

787
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 4: happened to people. But like now, I mean that bridge

788
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 4: is a connection, Like how are people? Like that's going

789
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 4: to disrupt life there for quite a long time, I

790
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 4: would think, right.

791
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the tragedy is the most important, but

792
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 6: moving forward that's probably going to be a nightmare situation

793
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 6: to clean up and just logistically, I mean that's a

794
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 6: big port city. I don't know how that's involved, the

795
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 6: traffic with that bridge there, I don't know, but certainly

796
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 6: a tragic thing we all want.

797
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 4: Mean, like everything is on the up and up, and

798
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 4: he didn't have any substance and all that. I actually

799
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 4: feel really sorry for the ship capt Can you imagine

800
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: having that on your conscience, Shannon, even if you didn't

801
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 4: do anything wrong, it would just.

802
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 2: Be awful, you know, in that moment, you know there's

803
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: nothing you can do.

804
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 4: Nothing you can do a bridge whoever that is. I

805
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 4: feel sorry for that. I always try to think in

806
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 4: situations like that, what would the person Like It's easy

807
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 4: to feel tragedy for the people that died in the cars,

808
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 4: and I do, but like, sometimes you don't think about

809
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 4: the person like that who was driving the thing and

810
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 4: who now just has to live with that.

811
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 5: And there's really there's nothing he could do if the

812
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 5: ship lost power, there's nothing he could do. Yeah, and

813
00:38:58,719 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 5: did you say it hit it in the in the

814
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 5: like the worst.

815
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 4: If it hit at other places, it might have partially collapsed,

816
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 4: but it hit it in the one spot that would

817
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: bring it all back. Wow, Like, which is that center thing?

818
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 4: So Corey, go ahead, Corey, Corey, all right, No, Corey,

819
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: go ahead.

820
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 11: Sorry, I've got a comment and a question. My comment

821
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 11: is all week I've wondered, you know, I'd hate to

822
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 11: be in Mitch's shoes. I have no idea how you

823
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 11: process this, what how you think about this, how you

824
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 11: decide on this. I miss feeling that way with cal

825
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 11: Like I miss I miss feeling dumb for thinking I'm

826
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 11: smarter than the coach. And something as simple as what

827
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 11: our lineup should be.

828
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 8: I can't believe, like we can't figure out the right lineup.

829
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 11: So yeah, and then and then my my question for

830
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 11: you is, you know, I've always admired your you being objective,

831
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 11: you being honest. I loved everything you said this week.

832
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 11: How do you how do you weigh in a season

833
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 11: like this, you know, how to be honest knowing that

834
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 11: you're also going to have to like you're still gonna

835
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 11: see Mitch, You're still gonna see.

836
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 4: Oh it's impossible. I mean, it's impossible. I I you know,

837
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 4: I appreciate the call. Actually I want I'm gonna talk

838
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 4: about that to start the second hour because I but

839
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 4: to the short answer to question is I knew walking

840
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 4: from the arena to do the postgame show. There's not

841
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 4: one thing I can say that will not make people

842
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 4: furious at me. Right, I mean, I'm getting message after message,

843
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 4: have some guts Matt, call for him to be fired.

844
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking to myself, if I say he should

845
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 4: be replaced and they keep him, what do I do then?

846
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 4: And then what about the people who are like, You're

847
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 4: a disgrace?

848
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 7: You know?

849
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 4: The problem is this is a great problem, but it's

850
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 4: we've gotten almost Shannon too big in the sense that

851
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 4: everyone else can have like we're not the only people

852
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 4: that said cows will be replaced. Almost everyone has in

853
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 4: the media, but the only name that ever gets associated

854
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 4: to it is mine.

855
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: That's the price you pay for being there.

856
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 4: And it is the price it is. But it also

857
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not gonna say it doesn't suck. So

858
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 4: part of that loss was I'd hope this year Ryan

859
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 4: they would go on a run so that everyone could unify. Right, Yes,

860
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: And the moment we had that loss, it's like, well,

861
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 4: that's not gonna happen.

862
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 8: They all unified the other way.

863
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 4: Yes, But then once it's a natural thing, once they

864
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 4: decide to keep him, then they're gonna be people flipped

865
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 4: back to the other side because it's natural, and we're

866
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 4: kind of back to where we were, where we're headed

867
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 4: for a year where people are sniping at each other.

868
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 4: And even though literally everyone in the media for the

869
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 4: most part said except John Clay and they spelled Cal's

870
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 4: name wrong, they all said we probably need to make

871
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 4: a change. But if you look online, the only people

872
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 4: that said it were KSR and Matt Jones and that

873
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 4: it is what it is due.

874
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 6: You know, a lot of the big Cal optimists presenting

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Speaker 6: on Twitter too, not just media, everyone was.

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Speaker 4: Saying, but they won't be remembered as having said it,

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Speaker 4: and that's the way it goes. We'll talk some more

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Speaker 4: about this and what's happening at Louisville, which is wild.

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Speaker 4: That's an XT