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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. This is a John your og

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Speaker 1: Okay Storytime podcast host, and we got some great stories

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Speaker 1: coming up. Before that, we have a quick two minute

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Speaker 1: break from the sponsors that keep the show a lot.

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Speaker 2: We've been together for two years, but I think I

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Speaker 2: might be the side chick. Oh some details, but we're

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Speaker 2: both foreigners living in Europe. Names have been changed. Tim

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Speaker 2: is a very private person in general, and so maybe

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Speaker 2: some of the strangeness stems from that. By the way,

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Speaker 2: this comes from throw my Troubles Away and if you

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Speaker 2: slash Okay Storytime subpredet. So in order to explain everything,

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Speaker 2: I think I have to start at the very beginning.

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Speaker 2: Tim and I met at an event for native English

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Speaker 2: speakers after each of us i'd lived here for a year.

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Speaker 2: We hit it off immediately. Later that week we went

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Speaker 2: to a pub crawl with other people from the event

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Speaker 2: and hooked up oo ooooooooooo. Only a few days later

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Speaker 2: we decided to meet up again, but when trying to

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Speaker 2: decide if it be at my place or his, he

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Speaker 2: told me it has to be mine and he'll explain

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Speaker 2: why later.

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Speaker 3: Yep, it's gonna be a great explanation. I'm sure for the.

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Speaker 2: Record, I do not live in an ideal situation to

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Speaker 2: be having people, much less men over, and he was

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Speaker 2: completely aware of the situation. He came over and told

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Speaker 2: me that he's currently still living with his ex girlfriend

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Speaker 2: of about three months.

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Speaker 3: Wait, does she know.

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Speaker 2: That she's your ex girlfriend of a couple of months?

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Speaker 3: Right? Also, they've been broken up for three months or

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Speaker 3: they were in a relationship for three months.

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Speaker 2: I believe he's saying of an ex girlfriend that has

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Speaker 2: been broken up with for three months or three months.

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Speaker 3: I see, Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: He had his own room and everything, but because he

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Speaker 2: had prepaid for six months of rent to lend her

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Speaker 2: some money, he was staying there. Okay, so yeah, I

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Speaker 2: know this is weird, but who am I to judge?

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Speaker 2: He says, they're definitely broken up, and I'm just sleeping

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Speaker 2: with the guy right now, so whatever. A few weeks

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Speaker 2: go by and we decide to start dating exclusively and officially.

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Speaker 2: He says, he's just living with his ex who will

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Speaker 2: name Stephanie temporarily for another three months and then I'll

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Speaker 2: find another place.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: So it's a weird situation, but I trust him and

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Speaker 2: he'll leave in three months. He complains about having to

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Speaker 2: live with her and says it's uncomfortable. He also told

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Speaker 2: me why they broke up, which was because he caught

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Speaker 2: her cheating on him with her ex at a party rejection.

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Speaker 2: Are we telling our own story?

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Speaker 3: Do we take the story and swap the names? Think so. So.

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Speaker 2: I'm not worried about them getting back together. I'm not

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent comfortable with the situation, but it's manageable.

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Speaker 2: If I never went to my partner's house who lived

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, because like I could see where it's like, oh, hey,

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Speaker 3: hooking up there's kind of awkward, yeah, but like meeting

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Speaker 3: up like oh, I'll pick you up to go out

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Speaker 2: Never been anything. A few months past and Tim doesn't

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Speaker 2: move out. He says he's now got his own little

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Speaker 2: better for him to stay there because he doesn't have

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Speaker 2: to buy any furniture and the rent is cheap. Remember,

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Speaker 2: we're foreigners, so buying a ton of furniture that you're

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Speaker 2: just gonna have to sell when you leave is annoying.

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Speaker 2: He eventually starts saying that he's going to bring me

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Speaker 2: Long story short, that never happened. Oh, every time I

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Speaker 2: asked him about her, he said that she'd get upset

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Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. Apparently she was aware that he

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Speaker 3: No Nichols, and no dam I don't mean.

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Speaker 2: To be mean to Eup. I understand. I understand you

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Speaker 2: haven't done anything wrong, However, thought that's checking their gut.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he hasn't done anything wrong, but he hasn't thought right. No.

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Speaker 2: After a year, he finally moved out, not into his

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Speaker 2: I have been to this buddy's place before only once, though,

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Speaker 2: ever met one of his non mutual friends, which is

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Speaker 2: suspicious and strange on its own. I didn't help with

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Speaker 2: a temporary solution until he found a place of his own.

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Speaker 2: Do we have any proof that he moved through various

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Speaker 2: circumstances company being bought out, which led to job and security,

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Speaker 2: him being extremely picky about finding an apartment. He has

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Speaker 2: It's been about ten months since he moved into his

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Speaker 2: I've asked many times, he always says yes, and then

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Speaker 2: later says that he just want to intrude or be

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Speaker 2: a nuisance. So essentially, I've never seen where he lives.

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Speaker 2: Those things, along with me never having met his friends

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Speaker 2: or skyped with his family, are the underlying basis for

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Speaker 2: my suspicions. But here's where the real stuff comes. Oh

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Speaker 2: last night, when I couldn't sleep, I went Facebook stocking.

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Speaker 2: I search for tag photos of Tim because I knew

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Speaker 2: he's weird about his Facebook and doesn't let tagged pictures

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Speaker 2: and posts show up on his wall. While going through

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Speaker 2: the pictures, I found three pictures of him while he

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Speaker 2: was visiting home over the summer. In each of these

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Speaker 3: To Tim how close.

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Speaker 2: In two of the three pictures, his arm is around her,

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Speaker 2: But the pictures are more posed and everyone's arms are

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Speaker 2: so I figured she's a friend from home, no big deal.

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Speaker 2: In one picture, though, they are with his sister and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, almost like their family in the married sense, Ailien

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Speaker 3: the marriage or like long term dating sense.

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Speaker 2: I do not know what Stephanie looks like, and she

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Speaker 2: doesn't have Facebook. I can't find a picture of her

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Speaker 2: through googling, but I think this girl might be her.

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Speaker 2: I don't know exactly why I think that.

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Speaker 3: But I do.

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Speaker 2: I did some more Google research and found Stephanie's grandmother's obituary.

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Speaker 2: She passed away in January, so after Tim would have

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Speaker 2: moved out of the house, and definitely after they should

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Speaker 2: have been broken up. And yet on the obituary his

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Speaker 3: As members of Stephanie's family, which could be husband.

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Speaker 2: I do know that he was close to the grandmother

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Speaker 2: and that she left him stuff in her will, but

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Speaker 2: still I'm suspicious. Opie's staring at a burning forest fire

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Speaker 3: But is it on fire? No.

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Speaker 2: If so what I suspect is true, that means that

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Speaker 2: he was able to hide this from me and her

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Speaker 2: for two years, which is honestly just impressive. Well, when

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Speaker 2: that hard. Right now, though, I'm stuck. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to bring up my relatively weak evidence with him until

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Speaker 2: him and be with him. I don't know how to

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Speaker 2: or the other. So that's where I'd like advice. I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to break up with him without knowing one

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Speaker 2: don't know how I can know one hundred percent. Any

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Speaker 2: advice or help is appreciated, And there are some relevant

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Speaker 2: comments and I can already smell them coming.

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Speaker 3: Ah, but do you have.

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Speaker 2: Any thoughts before we get into said relevant comments.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we have the quickest and easiest thing we

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Speaker 3: major alarm bells, if not the exact plain truth right

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Speaker 3: in front of us. Hey, it's been with two years.

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Speaker 2: Two years.

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Speaker 3: Hey it's been two years. It's crazy. I haven't seen

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Speaker 3: your place. We're going to your place tonight. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: Do you have his address? Do you even have his address?

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Speaker 2: What if something happened to him? How do you not

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Speaker 3: And then you know what would happen is he'd be

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Speaker 3: like okay, yeah, yeah, sure babe, Like let's do it.

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Speaker 3: And then they go they go into a place that's

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Speaker 2: Or he takes her to an Ikea. He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is where is where I live, just like this.

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Speaker 3: In interior design. You know, it's like, oh, let's let's

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Speaker 3: FaceTime actually, and then he's in this.

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Speaker 2: You can get away with that great point. How have

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Speaker 3: Who are those two old people looking at your mugs

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Speaker 2: Great kind of insane that we like, I just don't

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Speaker 2: freaking face timed him in his place, asked to meet

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Speaker 3: I think there's an underlying, she said, a little part

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Speaker 3: I'll just accept it because I want to be with him.

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Speaker 3: It's where it's like, you're so non confrontational that you're like, I, A,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to bring it up if he gives

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Speaker 3: me any pushback. So it's like, hey, guys, we we

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Speaker 3: deserve things like, hey, are you cheating on me for

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Speaker 3: two years or not? Because of all of said evidence

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Speaker 3: and suspicions. These are questions that we are entitled to ask.

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Speaker 2: Yes questions from the relevant commentaries. How long have they

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Speaker 2: been seeing each other? We see each other at least

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Speaker 2: twice a week, usually more, and he spends the night

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Speaker 2: almost every weekend. Another commenter says, that's an awful lot

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Speaker 2: of time to spend away from home with a mistress.

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Speaker 2: Good point. You mentioned that you are two hours away

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Speaker 2: from their old apartment. What would allow him to be

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Speaker 2: away for so long so regularly his job? Is he

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Speaker 2: still that far away? After moving out, do you ever

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Speaker 2: do anything in his area? Or are you always in

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Speaker 2: your area? There's a lot of suggestive hooks for Reddit

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Speaker 2: to latch onto you ear, but there's not a ton

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Speaker 2: of meat within your posts to come to an absolute conclusion.

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Speaker 2: Opie says their old apartment is only about forty minutes away. However,

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Speaker 2: because I don't have a car, i'd have to get

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Speaker 2: there using public transport, and because it's in the middle

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Speaker 2: of nowhere, it takes me about two hours to get there.

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Speaker 2: Go go on a weekend, I don't care.

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Speaker 3: Go mission the place you can go. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's like a nice restaurant up there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, so get him like a little gift or something,

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Speaker 3: and be like, hey, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think he's He's said he's not there anymore. This

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Speaker 2: I said before, I've never really met any of his

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Speaker 3: I have a conspiracy theory. Please tell me.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a child. I think just a child

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Speaker 2: I think maybe he is actually I think it's a

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Speaker 2: it's one of those that's pretty good, that's pretty that

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Speaker 3: I have none. Okay, let's dive right in.

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Speaker 2: All right, six weeks later, So it's been a while

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Speaker 2: He said it was all gonna change, and that I

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Speaker 2: He said I was the most important part of his

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Speaker 2: so we made up and all was well. What I

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Speaker 2: A couple days after Tim and I talked, he texted

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you shouldn't be stooping. You should be you know, condulker,

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Speaker 2: I also told him that it was inconclusive. He got

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Speaker 2: I apologized for the invasion of privacy and for bothering

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Speaker 3: We talked about this yesterday. Wormhole goal posts is where

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Speaker 2: I am not an advocate of this at all. I

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Speaker 2: think that if you've gotten to this point, which Ope

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Speaker 3: Yeah sound I think if Obia had said, hey, just

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Speaker 3: so you know, there is no trust until we've you know,

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Speaker 2: I found text from Stephanie from the day before talking

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Speaker 2: I found lots of hearts and I love.

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Speaker 3: Yous family friends. Yeah, yeah, you go, I cook dinner

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Speaker 2: You know. Oh, your wife is your family friends.

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Speaker 3: You know? Yeah, yeah, your family And Sam's out here

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Speaker 2: I mean? And even him using the same pet names

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Speaker 3: He's not creative easy.

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Speaker 2: He told her he was going out of town this

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Speaker 2: this guy has some excellent time management. Bro horrible person

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Speaker 2: excellent time management. It still could again manage a company

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Speaker 2: he has. You know, it could be could be a friend.

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Speaker 3: Hey, that's we still don't have the true blue evidence.

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Speaker 2: I went back and looked for dates where I knew

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Speaker 3: So you guys were right.

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Speaker 2: For the last two years, he's been living with her

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna sneeze, no, I'm we're allergic to this. Bs's

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Speaker 2: those are just things that I'll never know or understand. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I will break up with him, yes, yeah, I also

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, uh yeah, just go ahead and call

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Speaker 2: Nina Nelson says. I hope will he tells Stephanie very

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Speaker 2: clearly about this and then moves on forever. I will

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Speaker 2: give her the dates that I know he spent the

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Speaker 3: Take pic I would send screenshots of all of the

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Speaker 3: conversations with him, saying, oh, you know, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Be honestly just like yeah, like say literally everything, send him,

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Speaker 3: And that's kind of It's nice because it's like a

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Speaker 2: I also plan to include a USB stick with pictures

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Speaker 2: O nice. I can't make her believe me, but I

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Speaker 2: sorry this is long aft carried away and there is

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Speaker 2: a second update, folks, Oh do you have any thoughts.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad that we finally got to the obvious truth, the.

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Speaker 2: Very obvious truth, yes.

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Speaker 3: And that we are now moving on from here. I

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Speaker 3: to see what the fallout is going to be. Oh

439
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Speaker 3: and like I very quick, okay, storytime, I have like

440
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 3: a loose friend who was seeing this guy and turns

441
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 3: out that he had a wife of five years. And yeah,

442
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 3: the thing is.

443
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Speaker 2: There are signs, there are ways to tell if, like

444
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 2: for advice for everyone, if your partner that you start

445
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: dating says that you can never come to their house,

446
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 2: that they're living with their ex girlfriend, but you can't

447
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 2: meet them. They're always gone and they're you know, giving

448
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 2: you kind of weird excuses as to why they can't

449
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 2: make events or they're canceling plans. You never meet their friends,

450
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: you never meet their family. You know, when the time

451
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 2: like a normal time to meet family, comes around good good,

452
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 2: you know, signs that something's not right.

453
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 3: And if they come home on a Sunday morning covered

454
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Speaker 3: in glitter and you say, hey, why are you covered

455
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 3: in glitter? That's a little suspicious and they say, oh,

456
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Speaker 3: I was at Sunday school with my mom helping the

457
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Speaker 3: kids do arts and crafts.

458
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Speaker 2: Little sus but we got another update.

459
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Speaker 3: Again.

460
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Speaker 2: I'd like to start off this post but the thank

461
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 2: you to everyone who responded with constructive and helpful advice.

462
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 2: So I took your advice and did not try to

463
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Speaker 2: have a conversation with Tim. I realized that since he

464
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: was so so successfully able to manipulate me for two years,

465
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,239
Speaker 2: having one less conversation with him was bound to end

466
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: up with me doubting my findings and perhaps my sanity.

467
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 2: I honestly agree with that, because I do think that

468
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: you'll believe whatever he says.

469
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 3: Good contextual advice.

470
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 2: I wrote Stephanie a three page letter detailing the relationship

471
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Speaker 2: that Tim and I had over the past two years,

472
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 2: making clear that it was serious and not just a fling.

473
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 2: I mentioned dates and events that most people would not

474
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Speaker 2: have known about, and I included the intricate lies and

475
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: backstory that he had told me. I included a list

476
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 2: of dates from the last two months that he spent

477
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Speaker 2: the night with me and encouraged her to cross check

478
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: them with nights that he wasn't at home. I printed

479
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Speaker 2: out a few photos of us as quick visible proof,

480
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Speaker 2: and I included the rest of the photos on a

481
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Speaker 2: USB stick in the letter. The stick also contains screenshots

482
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Speaker 2: of any particularly incriminating conversations that we've had over the

483
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Speaker 2: last few months. I scanned postcards that he had sent

484
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Speaker 2: me from various vacations and included those as well or

485
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: safety I also included a copy of the letter in

486
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: case the hard copy went somehow mysteriously missing. I gave

487
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 2: her my email address and phone number and asked her

488
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: to contact me if she wanted to. On Wednesday night,

489
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: I had someone drive me to where she lives. If

490
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: Tim was there, I would just have confirmation then he

491
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 2: actually lives.

492
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: There and we'd leave.

493
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 2: If he wasn't there, I'd ring the doorbell and handle

494
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: the letter personally. We drove the forty five kilometers and

495
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: Tim was sitting there in the living room on his laptop.

496
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: It was obvious he lived there. Oh, you should pull

497
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 2: a love actually and knock on the door hopefully the

498
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: Stephanie answers and do the have you seen that scene?

499
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: It's okay, it's very same. They also make fun of

500
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 2: it on msnl's skit.

501
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 3: It's a very popular scene. Yeah, they do. Like the

502
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: Q card. Yeah they got don't say anything.

503
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: Yes, say it's Carol Singer or Carol Singers and then

504
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: just being like I've loved you all this time. There's

505
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: a very funny SNL sketch with a pete. But anyway,

506
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: I think we should do that. Yeah, I say it's

507
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 2: Carol Singers. Your husband's been cheating on you with me

508
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: for two years.

509
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: Sorry heart heart emoji emoji.

510
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 2: She was nowhere to be seen. His and her names

511
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: were on the mailbox. I called to see if he'd

512
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: picked up, and he ignored the call. We headed back home.

513
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: On Thursday morning, I mailed the letter. I ensure that

514
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: it was a registered post In order to receive the letter,

515
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 2: she'd have to show her ID and sign for it.

516
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: On Friday, the letter arrived, she was not home, so

517
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 2: she received a notification to go pick the letter up

518
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 2: at the post office. On Saturday morning. She picked it

519
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: up and I got an email of the receipt with

520
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 2: her signature on it. Throughout all of this, I conversed

521
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: normally with Tim, which crazy. I was thinking about that

522
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: really impressive to converse normally with your partner who you

523
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 2: know has been cheating on you, Like wells, you've been

524
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 2: kind of the side.

525
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 3: Chick for two years.

526
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: Ye yeah, and made excuses as to why he couldn't

527
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 2: come over during the week so as to not tip

528
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 2: him off to anything. You stopped talking to me about

529
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: twenty minutes after she picked up the letters Saturday morning,

530
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 2: and I have not heard from him since. He has, however,

531
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: defriended me and my family on Facebook. I haven't heard

532
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: from Stephanie either. By the way, you can always hear

533
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 2: from us if you listen to full episodes of stories

534
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 2: just like this. Just go to Apple podcast, Spotify, or

535
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: iHeart Radio and search a focused story time.

536
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 3: There's a little bit to the story.

537
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: But uh, oh boy, oh man. Wow, you just know

538
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: that fallout was crazy. You just know you know the

539
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: fact that twenty minutes after she got that letter, like

540
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: twenty minutes.

541
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Speaker 3: After she picked it up. Yeah, immedia blocked immedia.

542
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 2: Damn, dang man, dam.

543
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 3: I wish it's messy, but I wish we could have

544
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: been a fly on the wall to see.

545
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: So badly do I want to know what happened.

546
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 3: We want Tim to face justice. Justice.

547
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sophia Colone says, ohp might have been stupidly handling

548
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: the relationship, but she is freaking brilliant.

549
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 3: She knows how to handle the aftermath. She knows how

550
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 3: to handle the aftermath. We cannot deny that, cannot deny that.

551
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: There is a little bit left to the story. But yeah,

552
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 2: oh Pee, please take her advice for future relationships.

553
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: Please do so now it's really over.

554
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: I hope with my whole heart that he was not

555
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: able to lie and manipulate his way out of the

556
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 2: situation with her, but I'll probably never know. I do

557
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: not expect to hear from him again. I feel very lonely,

558
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: taken advantage of, and beaten down. I'm going to do

559
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: my best to try to come out of the situation

560
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: without trust issues and without being cynical and jaded. I

561
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 2: am seeking therapy to make sure I don't slip into depression.

562
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: For now, I need to find ways to distract myself

563
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 2: and fill up any free time. Thanks again for all

564
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 2: your help and quick edit. I forgot to mention that

565
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 2: I'm going to go get tested on Tuesday to be safe. Obviously,

566
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 2: if anything comes out of that, I'll do my best

567
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,479
Speaker 2: to notify both of them. And that is the end

568
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: of that story.

569
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Speaker 3: And that's it. Man man oh man. Wow. Sometimes you know,

570
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: you just get in a relationship two years and you

571
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 3: don't see the forest fire in front of your face.

572
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 2: You don't see the burning flames. It can't see it,

573
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 2: ah man. But that was the end of that story.

574
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: That's right. My girlfriend charged me for rent, so I

575
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: started charging her car rides.

576
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: Hmmm, a little life for an eye.

577
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: Goodness, I don't like what this is going. So I've

578
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: been living with my girlfriend for about five years. When

579
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 3: the pandemic hit, I lost my place. At that time,

580
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: we'd only been dating for a year. I asked if

581
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: I could say with her temporarily while I figured things out.

582
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: She agreed, as long as I covered the rent and

583
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 3: she'd handle the other household expenses. It seemed fair, so

584
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: I moved in and paid the full rent each month.

585
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from Sad Wheel twenty eight

586
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Speaker 3: ten and if you want to submit your own stories,

587
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Speaker 3: go to the r slash Okay Storytime seprend it. So,

588
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 3: lets say a year ago I found out the place

589
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: isn't rented at all. It actually belongs to her and

590
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: her family. She never told me they've never paid rent.

591
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for some help, yes,

592
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: but to ask him to pay the full rent, the

593
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: full rent for a place that you're not paying for

594
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: is kind of crazy and not inform him.

595
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, as long as I because I read it as like, oh,

596
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: split the rent, as long as I covered.

597
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: The rent full rent?

598
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: How much are we talking about?

599
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: That's crazy place that she doesn't pay for and she

600
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: didn't even tell him.

601
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah wow, yeah, let's keep reading. Well. I felt pretty

602
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: hurt and betrayed. It wasn't just about the money. It

603
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: was the lack of honesty. Yes, yep. I brought it up,

604
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: expecting at least a serious conversation or an apology. Instead,

605
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: she basically said, you agreed to pay, so what's the issue.

606
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: You didn't give him all the fat.

607
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: You're the one giving me money, so oh oh you good, Yeah,

608
00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: you gave me the money, so what heck?

609
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: She literally scammed him?

610
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: What the heck?

611
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: Like when like old people like get you know, the

612
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: Nigerian prince scam. If you went to that old person,

613
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: you're like, well, you agreed to give the money was

614
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: the issue. They just got scammed, They.

615
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: Got duped bamboozled. I told her I wasn't comfortable continuing

616
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: to pay for something that doesn't cost her anything, especially

617
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: when she doesn't work and gets money from her parents.

618
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: Hey listen, she said, Hey, I'm about to double my

619
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: income over here. Yeah. I decided to start saving that

620
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 3: money instead. She then said her parents only allowed me

621
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: to live there because I was paying rent. I asked

622
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: her to talk to them about changing that, or at

623
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 3: least give me some time to save up and find

624
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: a place of my own, and she refused.

625
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: Dude, your parents, her parents are your landlords and you

626
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: didn't even.

627
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 3: Know right, that's crazy. She didn't even try to discuss

628
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 3: it with them. After that, I started making jokes. Whenever

629
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: she'd asked me to drive her somewhere, I'd say things

630
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 3: like that'll be five bucks, or your uber has arrived.

631
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: They were just jokes. I wasn't actually charging her, but

632
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: it was my way of poking fun at the situation.

633
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: Super quickly just to say this could get into dangerous

634
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 3: territory where you are communicating through the jokes instead.

635
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: Of that's exactly what's going on. Yeah, yeah, doing the

636
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: thing where like you, you know, try and approach conflict

637
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: using a silly voice. Yeah, I know, I'm mad at you.

638
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: I need you to wash the dishes. What if we

639
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: did that, which I've done before.

640
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: I feel like I've heard whispers of that same voice

641
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: around the dishwasher in this house. I do this, Yes,

642
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 3: but for this severity of this situation, not great. Not great. Well,

643
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: she didn't take it well. We had a big argument,

644
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: and I told her that if she could charge me

645
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: to live in her house, I could joke about charging

646
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: her to use my car. Since then, things have been tense.

647
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: You stopped talking to me, started cooking just for herself,

648
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: and pretty much ignores me. This is the foundation of

649
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 3: a successful relationship.

650
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: But this is like, this is what happens when you

651
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: get a roommate. You know, when you when you like,

652
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: whether it be relationship or friendship, Being roommates with someone

653
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: is the like final test. Actually, I would say that

654
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: the three major tests, well maybe two major tests that

655
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: I can think of are roommates and going on a trip.

656
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: Yes, the pressure cooker who will survive. A few weeks ago,

657
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: she felt sick late at night and didn't tell me anything.

658
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: She just called an uber and left. I only found

659
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: out afterwards. This is bothers, the crap out of me

660
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: going somewhere, the silent treatment.

661
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Speaker 2: Oh sure, how old are these people?

662
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: A great question? I'm going to guess early twenties. Yeah.

663
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: I told her she should have said something, but she

664
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: didn't seem to care. Now I'm sitting here just wondering

665
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Speaker 3: if I was out of line. I still feel like

666
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: I was taken advantage of, but maybe the jokes were

667
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: too much. Then again, if the roles are reversed, I

668
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: would have never asked her to pay rent to live

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00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: in a house that cost me nothing. So am I

670
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Speaker 3: the A hole? Quick question? Is OPV? A hole here?

671
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Speaker 2: Sophia for the lack of communication? Yes, but uh for

672
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: being upset that your girlfriend was charging you rent under

673
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: false circumstances and not informing you about what the actual

674
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: situation was when she was actually not actually paying anything.

675
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Speaker 3: You're not the Yeah, this isn't a either or situation.

676
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: This is two things true at once. Yes, it's not

677
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Speaker 3: the best. I don't know. I wouldn't call them an

678
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: a hole. But it's not a good communication style to

679
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: just try to insert, use jokes to insert what you

680
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: actually feel.

681
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Speaker 2: Not the a hole, but certainly not the best move.

682
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: It's not going to help your relationship.

683
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, And she's again, you know, there could be

684
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: a scenario where if you guys had talked like maybe

685
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: you'd you chip in a little bit because you are

686
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: living there. Maybe that's what the parents want, or maybe

687
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: you can all come to an agreement of like, all right, hey,

688
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: you can stay here for free. This doesn't cost us anything.

689
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: I don't think it's unreasonable for the parents or Opie's

690
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: girlfriend to ask him to pay not some of the rent.

691
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Speaker 3: Not at all. It's the it is the lying about it, yes,

692
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: and then refusing to talk to the parents like it's

693
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: it's total, and then stonewalling him and giving him a

694
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: full silent treatment. It's it's the full terrible communication that

695
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: has happened here, and also her like she doesn't really

696
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 3: care about how he feels. But we have some relevant comments. Hey,

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Speaker 3: Commentary number one says, no matter who owns the house,

701
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: you wouldn't live rent free. It's time for you to

702
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: move out. If you don't have a savings account with

703
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 3: enough money for a security deposit in two months rent,

704
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 3: it is time for you to get a second job.

705
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: Opie responds, the house is owned, and when that's the case,

706
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: there's no mortgage to pay, only the services you use

707
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 3: like water, electricity, et cetera. Again, I don't think it's

708
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Speaker 3: unfair for the parents, yeah, or them to ask some

709
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 3: form of if someone else was living there. They totally yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's reasonable to say that you shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be paying anything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Commentary number two says, nope. First,

713
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: many homeowners absolutely have mortgages. Yeah yeah, just because they.

714
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: They say, he just said they paid off the margin.

715
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: Oh true.

716
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that part was answered true.

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00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: In fact, it's almost impossible to get a mortgage on

718
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 3: a house you don't own. If you're assuming there isn't

719
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 3: a mortgage because you were told her family owns the home,

720
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 3: that's unfounded. But even once the mortgage is paid off,

721
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 3: there's property taxes which can easily be ten thousand dollars

722
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 3: a year for a very modest house, insurance and maintenance.

723
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 3: Your use of the home creates wear and tear that

724
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: devalues it and its contents, and you living there is

725
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: an opportunity cost that space that isn't rented out to

726
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 3: a lodger or used for something else. Expecting to live

727
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: in your girlfriend or her family's house without paying is

728
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 3: not okay. And money or support your girlfriend gets from

729
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 3: her parents is her money, Yeah, that's yeah. If her

730
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: parents let her live there for free, yes, that's her parents.

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Speaker 2: I think op is focused on the wrong thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we need to get our eyes back on the

733
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Speaker 3: prize soldier. If her parents are providing her with free

734
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Speaker 3: rent or reduced rent to help her with her portion

735
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: of the bills, that has zero effect on your contribution,

736
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 3: Opie says. I'm from the Caribbean and in my country,

737
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: there are no mortgages on properties that you already own.

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Speaker 3: You only pay a tax if the property is a

739
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 3: very high value or used for commercial purposes, but that

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00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: doesn't apply to residential homes. I understand it's your money,

741
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 3: but I believe I deserve more consideration and honesty from

742
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 3: the start Again. Yes, honesty. No, you don't automatically get

743
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 3: free rent. You're not tilted That commentary number three says

744
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: one thousand percent not the a whole. All the people

745
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Speaker 3: saying you're the ahole overlook the fact that your girlfriend

746
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: doesn't have the job. So the money you're supposed to

747
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: be paying for rent is essentially paying for all the

748
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: utilities the girlfriend is supposed to be responsible for. Again,

749
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: good point. If but the parents, if the parents want

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Speaker 3: to cover that, then.

751
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, absolutely. But I think what they're saying

752
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: is like, she's told you, oh, I am paying for

753
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Speaker 2: the utilities.

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Speaker 3: Oh right, right, right, he's actually paying for the Yeah, yep. Honestly,

755
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 3: this would be a massive deal breaker for me. Had

756
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 3: she been up front and honest, you could have offered

757
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 3: to pay the utilities the food. But yeah, no, she

758
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: had to trick you into thinking something else. And Opie says,

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00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: and this is downvoted, by the way, that is the

760
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: essence of my frustration. Why not tell me the truth

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Speaker 3: and charge me such a full rent when you don't

762
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 3: even need it. I never intended to live for free,

763
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 3: but if your parents have been covering the other expenses

764
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 3: since before I moved in, then at least charge a

765
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: more reasonable rent.

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Speaker 2: I think that is a fair ass.

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Speaker 3: That is a fair ass. It's like, hey, I'm happy

768
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Speaker 3: to pay something. Can we work something out? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean like even if you were in like

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00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: a regular situation, you wouldn't be playing the full rent.

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00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like let's say, like, yeah, probably, you know.

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Speaker 3: Common number four says depends on what she was asking for.

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Speaker 3: Was the rent proportioned to what a single person would pay,

774
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: or is she asking you to pay the full rate

775
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,479
Speaker 3: for two people living there? Point that is a good point,

776
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: including all utilities, et cetera.

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00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: How much you're paying, opimm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, please, we need the deats regardless of whether

779
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: or not it was owned. I would never expect to

780
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: live there for free. I would happily pay fifty percent,

781
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Speaker 3: as I'm living in someone else's property. If you think

782
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: you should be living there for nothing, you're the ale gasp.

783
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 3: Opie responds to that the deal was that I pay

784
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: the full rent and she would cover the utilities. I

785
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 3: assumed that before I moved in, her parents were paying

786
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: the rent in other expenses since she didn't work, So

787
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: it was bittersweet for me to realize the truth. I

788
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 3: was paying rent for two people when I should be

789
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: paying for myself because she owns the place and her

790
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 3: share is already settled, so I guess maybe that also

791
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: means she has literal equity in the home as well.

792
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: Let's getting yeah, as her parents owning it. Besides rent,

793
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: I've also covered other expenses. She had been honest from

794
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 3: a start and told me she expected me to pay half.

795
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: I would have understood, but paying it all without transparency

796
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: felt more like a joke than a fair argument. Coming

797
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: to her. Number five says, I think you're way out

798
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 3: of line. What happened to you? Only staying till you

799
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 3: figure things out? If she's paying for water, power, internet, food, phone, shampoo,

800
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 3: dishop and so on, I say, you have a pretty

801
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 3: good deal. Have you seen the prices of one bedroom?

802
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: I hope, says. I've always bought my own personal hygiene

803
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 3: items and even hers too. It was never a bother

804
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 3: for me. After living together for a while, we both

805
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: agreed to stay that way because we worked well as

806
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: a couple and we were planning to get married once

807
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: she finished her studies. It wasn't a spontaneous decision, it

808
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 3: was something we committed to with dedication and a future

809
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 3: in mind. I know rent is expensive in other places,

810
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 3: but that doesn't justify hiding the truth or making rent

811
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: the priority when we could have been saving for a wedding,

812
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: travel or other shared goals that matter to both of

813
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Speaker 3: us and we have an update.

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Speaker 2: I'm really surprised about how many comments are saying that, oh,

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Speaker 2: you like, you can't, you can't be mad about this

816
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Speaker 2: at all. Yeah, it's I don't understand that.

817
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: Guys come on like like, are we reading the same

818
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 3: story and this and this always happens. People fixate on

819
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 3: the surface level thing, which is like, oh pay, Oh,

820
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 3: here's how you split the rent. Da da, That's a

821
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: totally objective thing. Yeah, the true root of the issue

822
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: is a complete lack of communication in lying, yeah, and

823
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: stonewalling and lack of transparency. That is the real Obviously, Yes,

824
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Speaker 3: the split of rent is an important thing to consider,

825
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: but like, yeah, there's there's still even even if they

826
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Speaker 3: had an amicable a rent thing or he was paying

827
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Speaker 3: fifty percent or whatever, even just the lying alone is

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Speaker 3: enough to be like, yo, that's not cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Like, for example, if our landlord was like,

830
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Speaker 2: you guys need to pay this amount because we're paying

831
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: for mortgage still, and so you have to help us

832
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: cover that because you're living in the house. And then

833
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 2: we find out that there is no mortgage and we're

834
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: paying these extra fees for a lie. That would you'd

835
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: probably be upset about that.

836
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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Like transparency, even though you're dating, does not mean that

838
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: you get to like do whatever you want. You know, Yes, honestly,

839
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: it should make the like the contract even more important

840
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: because you have to be really careful. Like whenever you

841
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: do a job for a friend or family, you want

842
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: to make sure that the expectations are really lined out,

843
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 2: because doing a job living with someone.

844
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Speaker 3: Gets real tricky. It does.

845
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: Being a landlord to a friend or family real trick.

846
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 3: Being a landlord to your boyfriend even trickier, even trickier. Also,

847
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 3: this is this might be a bit of a reach,

848
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 3: and it does include some assuming. But she it's it

849
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 3: seems to me that she feels very entitled. Yes, I'm

850
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: going to get your rent and like I'm already she

851
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 3: doesn't work, she has everything to drive her. Yeah.

852
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of entitlement here.

853
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: And anytime something just goes against you know what you are,

854
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: or he catches her in the line, She's like, Nope,

855
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna talk to you.

856
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: No bye.

857
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: Did yeah not cool? Not cool, But we do have

858
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 3: an update. Let's see what happens. Honestly, I wasn't even

859
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: planning on posting an update because some of y'all really

860
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 3: came at me like I committed a crime.

861
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Speaker 2: I'm shocked by.

862
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 3: You're under arrest. You used my original post as a

863
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 3: place to dump all your personal frustrations, especially that little

864
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 3: union of single moms. I now fully understand why they're single,

865
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: by the way, I guess. I guess some single moms

866
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 3: were mad. Yes, yeah, I get In the original story,

867
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: I might have come off as the bad guy. But

868
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Speaker 3: no matter what I said in the comments, no matter

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00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: how small the clarification, I was always painted as the villain.

870
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Speaker 3: Some of you acted like vultures, just waiting to tear

871
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: someone apart and feel morally superior about it, even though

872
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 3: a lot of the criticism said more about to you

873
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: than it did about me. Let's clear some things up.

874
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 3: The house belonged to her parents when I moved in.

875
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 3: I thought it was a rental and that her parents

876
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 3: were the ones paying the rent. When I moved in,

877
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: the condition was that I would pay the full rent,

878
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 3: which I agreed to. Less than a year ago, I

879
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 3: found out that the house actually belonged to her parents.

880
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: I asked her to talk to them about lowering the rent,

881
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: but she refused without even asking them. Now the house

882
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: is under her name. It no longer has anything to

883
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: do with her parents. And even then she didn't want

884
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: to lower the rent, so she bully owns.

885
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 2: Fully owns it.

886
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 3: Wow.

887
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: Damn wow. That is such an awkward place to put

888
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: yourself willingly to be your partner's landlord and not, you know,

889
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: even try to commromise or be truthful.

890
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: Wow, you're not thinking through the entitled person's mindset. To her,

891
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: she's like, oh, I get to keep charging money and

892
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: making money off my boyfriend, and now I own a

893
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: home that's insane like double money, so I don't have

894
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 3: to work.

895
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: He is literally she's not working. He's funding her life. Yes,

896
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: he's paying full rent like, which is probably I don't know.

897
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: I don't even know how much he's paying.

898
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: Let's say I mean full rent for full rent. This

899
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 3: is also at least a two bedroom plays I mean

900
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: gotta be two grand like the very least like like

901
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred to like thirty five hundred or something. Two

902
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: grand to thirty five hundred like that is that's sch money.

903
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: And also this guy is not like he literally said,

904
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: he is in between you know. Yeah, he was trying

905
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: to save up money to go to move back.

906
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: He doesn't have the savings for the deposit and everything

907
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 3: keeps to pay. This woman, oh golly, her salary. Yeah,

908
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 3: she's like, you're not gonna take my salary away from me. Yeah,

909
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: it's like I'm a real estate investor. Okay, it's true.

910
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: I clarified it like this because the translation seemed confusing.

911
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 3: I never said I shouldn't pay rent. What I said

912
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: is to my partner never told me the house was hers.

913
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 3: I was paying a rent that, compared to other places,

914
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 3: was pretty dang high, and I agreed to it in

915
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: the middle of a pandemic, which is like rent was

916
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: cheap in the middle of but hard.

917
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: To find places though.

918
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 3: But hard to find place, I mean, I feel like

919
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: it was probably people.

920
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember it being really hard for me

921
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: when I was trying to find a place when I

922
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: moved into when I was moving into a college department,

923
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: it was really really hard for me.

924
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 3: To find a place.

925
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: And the only actually reason that I found a place

926
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: is because my friend at time's mom bought a condo.

927
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: And that's literally the only reason I was able to

928
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: find a place. Like there were so many people students

929
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 2: who were living in like RV's Yeah, oh wow, yeah,

930
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 2: like at the beginning of school year because there was

931
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: just no housing.

932
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was like there were some places

933
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: like the it's like Austin and Arizona where was like

934
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: people were flooding in. It's like, okay, there's no places whatsoever.

935
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: And then there's places like downtown Manhattan where everyone's like,

936
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to be trapped in a box.

937
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I think it probably. And then of course

938
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: there's also a lot of rent forgiveness happening. Yeah, but

939
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: then also there was a lot of landlords who were like,

940
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: I'm hiking the rent.

941
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: A lot of stuff was happening, A lot of stuff

942
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 3: we had at all, we had it all. Hey it's John,

943
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 3: youre og host here. We're gonna get back to the stories.

944
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: But here's a quick three minute break of asthmim our sponsors.

945
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: When I literally had no other option, I wasn't trying

946
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 3: to freeload. I was trying to survive. The issue is

947
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 3: that she maybe believe the house was her parents, and

948
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 3: now it turns out it was hers all along.

949
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: Oh wait, so it'll be the whole time too.

950
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,959
Speaker 3: Yes, we just keep uncovering layers of the line.

951
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: If you're paying more than other places are, asking, let's

952
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 2: move out.

953
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: I even asked her to talk to her parents about

954
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 3: lowering the rent back then, and she refused. Now that

955
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 3: I know it's hers, I'm still expected to pay full rent,

956
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 3: no discussion. If we were living in a place neither

957
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 3: of us owned, we'd split the rent fifty to fifty.

958
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: But because it's hers, I cover it all. It makes

959
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 3: no sense. And again she just again, what's the root

960
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 3: of it? She doesn't care, She doesn't care.

961
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: She literally she's only thinking about her lifestyle.

962
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 3: Yes, that's it. Yes, how does that make sense? Equality

963
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 3: only seems to apply when it benefits some of y'all

964
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 3: bringing up fairness, and suddenly it's pitchforks and double standards,

965
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 3: and a lot of you came at me like I

966
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: was your ex. I don't need blind support. I just

967
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 3: wanted perspective, but instead I got a courtroom. In a sentence, due, dude.

968
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: I'm so upset. I'm so upset. I'm on your side.

969
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 3: O B, We're on your side.

970
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: I'm so upset. Please OP, I'm gonna go in comment

971
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: on that post and say you're not wrong.

972
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: Yeah right. I feel like maybe there was like a

973
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: little group and they like kind of became the vocal minority,

974
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 3: because I can't imagine that the majority of people reading

975
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: this were like, oh my god, you're and it was

976
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 3: also can I think OP, maybe word of confusing or

977
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 3: there was a translation where it sounded like he was

978
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 3: saying I want to live for free, with the clarifications

979
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 3: like I never expected to live for free, just to

980
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 3: figure out like a more amicable scenario. Yeah, sure, yes.

981
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 3: Also huge cultural disconnect here. I'm Dominican. Where I'm from,

982
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: people don't deal with mortgages or mandatory home insurance. You

983
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 3: buy land or a house, pay one time transfer fee

984
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 3: or tax, and that's it. If something breaks, you fix it.

985
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 3: Most people don't have to pay insane monthly costs unless

986
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: they're dealing with banks or luxury properties. Basic services like

987
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: garbage collection are free in many areas. That sounds lit.

988
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 3: I pay the equivalent of three hundred and thirty three

989
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 3: dollars in rent in a country where the minimum wage

990
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 3: is around three hundred and ninety four dollars. So for context,

991
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 3: like that's basically like a full time minimum wage salary.

992
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: Wow yeah wow three indred Wait what was the So

993
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: the rent is three hundred and thirty eight, the minimum

994
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 2: wage is three hundred ninety four. Okay, question if we

995
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: do like three hundred ninety what's like a typical like

996
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: full time working job or minimum is that like forty hours.

997
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: Is forty hours times like fifteen dollars an hour?

998
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, okay yeah, So and this is probably a

999
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: young twenty something who's just started working minimum wage jobs

1000
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: is getting paid three hundred ninety four dollars a month

1001
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 2: and paying his whole wage. Yes, that's crazy, Like obviously

1002
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 2: I think like coming from LA like three hundred dollars.

1003
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, like incredibly different location.

1004
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: Different location, totally, Yeah, different situation they tell you to

1005
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: pay like thirty.

1006
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: This is ninety imagine paying ninety percent of your rent. Yeah,

1007
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,479
Speaker 3: your paycheck as your rent.

1008
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that you can't live on, that you can't live on,

1009
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 2: that you cannot And also he's paying for like groceries

1010
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: and things, yes, other utilities. She's paying for you, except

1011
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: he's paying for your tills. No, this is not okay.

1012
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 3: Now I earn more than double that, and rent still

1013
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 3: eats up almost half of my income. On top of that,

1014
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 3: I contribute in other ways of food.

1015
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was saying, sorry, So he makes he makes

1016
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: like six hundred and seven hundred.

1017
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 3: Bucks, but still fifty percent is still crazy? Is still crazy.

1018
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: They don't want to be paying thirty And there's like

1019
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: he's got all.

1020
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: His other expenses. So yeah, food, shared expenses, stuff we

1021
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 3: enjoy together. My girlfriend doesn't work. She studied. Her parents

1022
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 3: cover water and electricity, and I genuinely thought they were

1023
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 3: covering the rent too.

1024
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry. When I studied, I worked too.

1025
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 3: It's possible, it exists. The world will not melt and

1026
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 3: shatter in front.

1027
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: Of us, And I really I highly doubt that she

1028
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: was as busy as me. Oh, come on, girl, that's right.

1029
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 3: Before moving in, I lived alone and paid one hundred

1030
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 3: and sixty dollars, So that's about thirty percent.

1031
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: Whoa, so he's paying about double Yes that that he was.

1032
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 3: Wow, yep, this was a planned decision between the two

1033
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: of us. We had a great relationship and we were

1034
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 3: working towards the future together, not me trying to leach

1035
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 3: off of her. By the way, if you would like

1036
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 3: to leach off of our knowledge and good advice given Goofily,

1037
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 3: you are welcome to do that by going to Spotify,

1038
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 3: Apple iHeart and searching Okay, storytime and binging our catalog

1039
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 3: of over two thousand episodes. Please enjoy it. It's guys,

1040
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 3: I wish I had Sophia. Can I ask you this? Yeah,

1041
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 3: think about your favorite show, your favorite podcast you listened

1042
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 3: to if it had two thousand episodes available for you

1043
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: to binge. Would that not be the greatest thing ever?

1044
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 3: It would be because you always know, Hey, I can

1045
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 3: always go to my favorite show and listen to it.

1046
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be amazing. I always have to like

1047
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: not listen to it and wait a while because then

1048
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 2: I'm running that episode.

1049
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 3: You gotta save up. You don't have to save up.

1050
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 2: But you don't have to do that with us.

1051
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 3: Binge immediately or I will cry.

1052
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: You don't want to see John when he's crying.

1053
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 3: No, you don't. I kind of do. Oh oh, I'll

1054
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 3: be a little cry baby baby. But hosting this ghosts

1055
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 3: But we are almost at the end of this story, Sophia,

1056
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 3: any closing thoughts.

1057
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 2: I think that unfortunately you've had the conversations, you've been

1058
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: lied to, un manipulated. Yep, you are paying way too

1059
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 2: much in rents.

1060
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: Indeed, she doesn't care.

1061
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 2: I think it may be time to move out and

1062
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 2: maybe reconsider this relationship.

1063
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 3: When someone tells you who you are, who they are,

1064
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 3: believe them, believe them.

1065
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you know what may like I honestly,

1066
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 2: I don't know if this relationship can can survive this yeah,

1067
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: or that it should. But maybe, you know, you move

1068
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: out and it fixes all the problems.

1069
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 3: But then is it Is it fixing all the problems

1070
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 3: because they don't have the pressure coaking that right, it's like, oh,

1071
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 3: just don't to your two tests, you know, don't travel,

1072
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 3: don't live together. Then it's like, well, but I.

1073
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 2: Mean, is this the type of person that you want

1074
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: to be in a relationship that you want to be

1075
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: married to. Yes, she's been conditioned to know that she

1076
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: doesn't have to support herself. Indeed, you know, and may

1077
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: maybe it's because she's still in school and stuff and

1078
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: like that is a totally different scenario. But she is

1079
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: still a person that's gonna lie and you know, not

1080
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: be truthful about your finances, which is a.

1081
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 3: Pretty big red flag.

1082
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, and of course maybe she can change, doesn't

1083
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 2: mean she has to change with you so.

1084
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 3: That you're having folks. But let's get into the conclusion

1085
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 3: of the story. Also, no, she doesn't do everything around

1086
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 3: the house. I cook, I clean, I contribute, But I

1087
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 3: didn't write out a full day to day breakdown because

1088
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 3: I was asking for advice about to one specific issue.

1089
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: Y'all ran wild, filling in the blanks with whatever narrative fits.

1090
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 3: You're outrage So here's the update you didn't want. Oh,

1091
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 3: we're still together and we're doing fine.

1092
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: Okay, because you just kind of gave up because you

1093
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: had a good conversation.

1094
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 3: And everyone who came at me with cheap insults and

1095
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 3: zero nuance. I genuinely hope your night isn't as good

1096
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 3: as you hoped. What a uh op doesn't want? Nice?

1097
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 3: A mid threat problem. And we do have some top

1098
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: comments to close out. Commatat number one, why did you

1099
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 3: stay she lied and manipulated you for a year. How

1100
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 3: did that not destroy your trust? Competation Number two says,

1101
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 3: why the actual f are you still with her? You're

1102
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 3: the a hole for staying in the relationship. Quit your witching.

1103
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 3: You can't have your cake and eat it too.

1104
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: That's such an unsatisfying end. I'm sorry he just stayed

1105
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: with her and we don't even get like we've been

1106
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: working on our problems. Be communicated. She agreed to lower

1107
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: their breath.

1108
00:54:54,480 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 3: Nothing conspiracy theory. I think op was so triggered by

1109
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 3: by the audience, He's like, you know what, I'm gonna

1110
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 3: make this huge life decision, just staying with her just

1111
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 3: to piss off these Reddit comments.

1112
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: Well, my thinking was that he was so mad at

1113
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 2: everyone in the comments that he's not actually telling them

1114
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: the truth. He's just giving them the ending that he

1115
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 2: knows they would hate.

1116
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 3: That could also be it too.

1117
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: I really hope for your saco Pee that you are

1118
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 2: not with this person and that you have moved out

1119
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: because you told us no solutions yep to the problems

1120
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: that you gave us at the beginning of the story,

1121
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: Like you came, you gave us all these problems, we

1122
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 2: offered it by and then you changed nothing. So uh,

1123
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how anything could have been solved. I

1124
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: guess good that it is solved, but I don't believe you.

1125
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 3: I don't believe it either. Yeah, I completely doubt it.

1126
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 2: I really doubt it. But we're gonna get into this

1127
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: next story, let's do it. My husband's cousin's wife flirted

1128
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: with him before our wedding. Now she wants to meet

1129
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: for car A.

1130
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 3: Long story short.

1131
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 2: My husband, Steven's cousin Dave and his wife Daisy, were

1132
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: married in twenty nineteen. We have been very close to

1133
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: Dave and Daisy throughout the years. We were even part

1134
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 2: of their wedding party. We always went on vacations together,

1135
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,479
Speaker 2: to bars, to parties, concerts, We went on double dates,

1136
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: to restaurants the beach, had dinner parties, and overall spent

1137
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 2: a lot of time together. By the way, this comes

1138
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: from ge Mercado zerozo five and if you want to

1139
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 2: spit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay

1140
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: storytime suffered it. So Stephen and I thirty one female,

1141
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 2: got engaged in twenty twenty one and we decided to

1142
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 2: get married in November twenty twenty two, a month before

1143
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: our wedding. I met with Daisy for brunch while Steven

1144
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: went for his final suit fitting with Dave. Dave was

1145
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 2: his best man to say the least. Brunch with Daisy

1146
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: consisted of bottomless mamosaoo.

1147
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 3: She didn't make it.

1148
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: To my bachelorette party in Europe, and she told me

1149
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 2: the timing of my bachelorette conflicted with her work schedule

1150
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 2: and she was not quite sure she fit into my life.

1151
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 2: I told her I considered her one of my closest friends,

1152
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: but not to worry, no hard feelings. She told me

1153
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 2: she considered me one of her closest friends too, but

1154
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: stated that she felt Stephen didn't like her that much.

1155
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: I told her that was ridiculous and that Stephen absolutely

1156
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: did love her. Then said, Dave has told her she

1157
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 2: makes more sense with Stephen. Her partner told her that

1158
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: she makes more sense with another guy that doesn't make

1159
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 2: any sense. Well, Dave makes more sense with me. I'm

1160
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: sorry that didn't happen. That didn't happen.

1161
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 3: So basically he's like, hey, we should we're better. Just

1162
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 3: swap swap and it's gonna be so much better, right, guys, I.

1163
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: Don't believe that happened. I think Daisy's lying. Oh, Stephen

1164
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: is very attractive, and so is Daisy, and I responded

1165
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 2: with I can see that you. I can see that

1166
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,959
Speaker 2: you both are very hot and let it go. What oh, pey,

1167
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: Dave and I guess are pretty average looking sensitive beings.

1168
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 2: I thought it was funny. The men picked us up

1169
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 2: after brunch and we went to a bar. We were

1170
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,959
Speaker 2: talking about investments and the future, and when I asked

1171
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: Steven if he loved Daisy, he said sure.

1172
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 3: And again wait, yeah, Steven. Sorry. Stephen is Opie's Steven is.

1173
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 2: Op partner fiance and Daisy's with David. Daisy left to

1174
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: the bathroom. We then migrated to another bar to meet

1175
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: with Daisy's brother as he was going to play at

1176
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: the guitar as I walked down the aisle on our

1177
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: wedding day. By the time we got to the next bar,

1178
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: Daisy and I were pretty schewested. I noticed that Dave

1179
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: seemed upset and that Stephen was talking to him. I

1180
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,439
Speaker 2: asked Daisy what was going on, and she said, Dave

1181
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: saw she had texted Stephen and he got upset. She

1182
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 2: swore she did not say anything inappropriate in the messages,

1183
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: but Dave now thinks they're having an affair.

1184
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well you you.

1185
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 2: She I don't know because.

1186
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 3: Daisy was like Daisy said that Stevens said, Oh, we'd

1187
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 3: be better swapped.

1188
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: Daisy said that Dave her partner, Dave. She says, Daisy

1189
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 2: said that her partner. Dave said that, oh would be

1190
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: better swat like better danty Dave and Daisy would better

1191
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: be danting Stephen. But I don't believe that ever happened.

1192
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 3: Crazy.

1193
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: She swore she was talking to Steven about my bridal shower.

1194
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: I told her it's ridiculous that Dave feels that way.

1195
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: He should have nothing to worry about, and I assured

1196
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: her I would never think there was anything between her

1197
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: and Stephen. When we left the bar, Dave still seemed upset,

1198
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: but he wanted to go elsewhere. However, Stephen said we

1199
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 2: had to go on the way to our car. I

1200
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: asked Stephen why Dave would think he and Daisy were

1201
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: having an affair.

1202
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 3: He said, I don't know.

1203
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 2: She was texting me gibberish all night, so I asked

1204
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: to see the messages, and he said he deleted them.

1205
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't to have like gibberish like

1206
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: you know, I got eye.

1207
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 2: Clar fluttering up my phone.

1208
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 3: I want I want to keep it, you know, you know,

1209
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 3: clean simple messages you know. I just like like, like

1210
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 3: keep it or did you have.

1211
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 2: Sending me all these weird symbols. They were like like

1212
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 2: the greater than symbol or the less than symbol and

1213
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: a three.

1214
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 3: I don't know what that means. What's less than three? Two?

1215
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? So I deleted them. This happened when Apple had

1216
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: released a new update where recently deleted messages could be recovered.

1217
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 3: On I Message. Ahah.

1218
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: I received a spam text while in the car and

1219
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: proceeded to delete it. I Message notified me of the

1220
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 2: new function with it with the update, thank you for explaining. Ope,

1221
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 2: so I told Steven, with the new update, you can

1222
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: recover recently deleted messages. He recovered the messages, and it

1223
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 2: turns out that when she went to the bathroom at

1224
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 2: the second bar we were at right after I asked

1225
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 2: Steven if he loved her, she texted Steven saying they

1226
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: needed to talk. Stephen asked why and said sure after

1227
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 2: the wedding, but that he did love her, with a

1228
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 2: smiling emoji at the end. She's taking that totally the

1229
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 2: wrong way, Bud. Why are we using the word love?

1230
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 2: Why why don't we just use like, hey, yeah, I think.

1231
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 3: He's British's you. But that's but they say like, oh,

1232
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 3: good love right, Like they don't say I love you.

1233
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't usually go I love you.

1234
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 3: No, he's British, he's British.

1235
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 2: She said it could not wait until after the wedding.

1236
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 2: Daisy then asked if they were in a soap opera.

1237
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: He asked her what she was talking about, and she

1238
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 2: asked him not to make her say it. You proceeded

1239
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 2: to say he was confused, and she finally said that

1240
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: she wanted him.

1241
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 3: Oh, this was the gibberish.

1242
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: This was the gibberish.

1243
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, why wouldn't you be like look what she texted me.

1244
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 2: He asked since when, and she said since always. He

1245
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: told her they will talk and to delete these messages.

1246
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 2: She asked when and he said tomorrow. So she was

1247
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: anxious and nervous, but would wait until the next day.

1248
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 2: She sent some gibberish texts. After that, he asked her

1249
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: again to delete the messages and mentioned they would talk.

1250
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 2: She then said I'm so over you, and he responded with, uh,

1251
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,959
Speaker 2: that was fast. I looked up at Steven after reading

1252
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,479
Speaker 2: the messages and said, this is not gibberis she said

1253
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 2: she wanted you. He said, I know.

1254
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 3: This guy. I feel like his whole vibe was like

1255
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 3: that was some gibbers. I just deleted it. Yeah, I

1256
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: don't know. I got furious.

1257
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 2: I was yelling in front of my apartment building because

1258
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 2: I felt betrayed and stupid. Steven's responses to where it

1259
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 2: can be interpreted many ways, but he claimed he was

1260
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 2: trying to do damage control because we were all so

1261
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 2: close and were friends. He swore he did not mean

1262
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 2: his responses in any harmful way. But I told him

1263
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 2: deleting the messages made him look suspicious and asked why

1264
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: he didn't tell me right away. He said I was

1265
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: wasted and he wasn't sure how I would react, and

1266
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: Dave's obsessed with Daisy and he didn't know how he

1267
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: would react in the moment either, as we were all drinking,

1268
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 2: which is why he told her they would talk the

1269
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 2: next day because he was so unsure of everyone's reactions

1270
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: and needed to play it safe. The next day, we

1271
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: got a text from Dave asking to meet for coffee

1272
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 2: to talk. He said Daisy mentioned to him she might

1273
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 2: have sent some inappropriate messages to Stephen, but she couldn't

1274
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: remember what and it appears her messages were deleted. Stephen

1275
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 2: refused to.

1276
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 3: Meet wait because also he was saying like, oh, I

1277
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 3: didn't want to be to be messy and everything. We

1278
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 3: were drinking. But David already confronted Stephen that night because

1279
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 3: Opie was saying like, oh, they were like talking. It

1280
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 3: was like he did. It was already the message.

1281
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 2: So it's already messy.

1282
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 3: Just say it you suspicious.

1283
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then David said like, oh, well, Daisy told

1284
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 2: Opeede that David thought that she was cheating with Stephen.

1285
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 3: Yes, so all.

1286
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: Of this was already out.

1287
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 3: It was already there.

1288
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 2: A few days later, Stephen spoke to Daisy via text

1289
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 2: and sent her screenshots of the messages. She apologized profusely

1290
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 2: and took accountability for her actions. She showed the messages

1291
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 2: to Dave, and Dave sent a message to Stephen about

1292
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 2: how he and Daisy spoke and they were addressing the problem,

1293
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 2: how Daisy had panic attacks over the situation and they

1294
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 2: were wanting to mediate and talk. He said that he

1295
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: knew the person that night was not the real Daisy,

1296
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 2: and that's why he can be protective of her when

1297
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 2: she drinks.

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Speaker 3: We did not meet with them.

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01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 2: Our wedding was only a few weeks away, and we

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01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 2: wanted to focus on each other. Dave was insisting on

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01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 2: backing out of attending the wedding due to the situation,

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01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 2: but he was the best man. Daisy texted me apologizing

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01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 2: for her betrayal and said she felt she should opt

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01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 2: out of the wedding. I told her if she did,

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01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 2: Steve's best man would not show up on one of

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01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 2: the most important days of his life, but that it

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01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 2: was their choice if they showed up for Stephen or not.

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01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: She asked me if our friendship had the possibility of

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01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 2: being saved, and I said I needed time. By the way,

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01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 2: I need you guys to take time to listen to

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01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 2: full episodes of story just like this. Just go to Spotify,

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01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 2: Apple Podcast, or iHeart Radio and search a.

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01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 3: Pokey story time.

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Speaker 2: But there is a little bit left to this story.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any final thoughts?

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01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 2: Okay? They went to the wedding. I was super wasted bride,

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01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: and at the end of the night, I grabbed her

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01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: in a tight hug and whispered in her ear, I

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01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 2: forgive you, but I will f you up.

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Speaker 3: What is this friend group?

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01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 2: This is vile?

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01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 3: What is this crazy I'm.

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01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: Just I forgive you, but oh, if you up. We

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01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 2: saw them once more for friendsgiving, and it was awkward.

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01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: I couldn't control my iciness, and I'm not sure if

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01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 2: I ever really do forgive her. Daisy asked me to

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01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: meet with her on this coming Sunday for coffee. It's

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01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 2: been five months now. I agreed, but I don't know

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01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 2: how to feel or how I'm going to feel when

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01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 2: I see her again. Any thoughts coming? One says Daisy

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01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: needs to stop drinking if she gets like this. Reply

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01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 2: it was the real Daisy. He just hadn't seen that before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Comment two. I wouldn't be friends with her. She already

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01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 2: showed you who she was wasted or not. She's a snake,

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01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 2: and I would be wary of your husband as well.

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01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 2: Deleting messages and telling her they'll talk tomorrow, not automatically

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01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 2: shutting her down is a big no no for me.

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01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: Why are you inviting this person into your home? Comment three?

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01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: He how can a grown adult get so wasted? Text

1341
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 2: their husband's cousin tells, said cousin she has always wanted him,

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01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 2: and then used the line I didn't know what was happening.

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01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: You stumble words and say off the wall crap. Going

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01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 2: to the bathroom to secretly text another man was not

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01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 2: a wasted mistake. Well it was, but the only mistake

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01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 2: was bringing it up. Those are her true feelings. Comment four.

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Speaker 2: Steven looks like the only one to have his ducks

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01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 2: in a row?

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Speaker 3: Are we do one of the same, Stephen, I don't

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01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 3: know about that.

1351
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 2: He single handedly managed three dramas at once with wasted people.

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01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 2: I disagree with that comment.

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01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 3: Same.

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01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 2: Steven's not good at handling anything.

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01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 3: Literally, not at all. The exact opposite.

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01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, he's pretty. He's kind of created a lot

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01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 2: of these problems. But folks, that's the end of that

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01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 2: story and the end of this episode. I know, shock,

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01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 2: But if you love us, make sure to subscribe We

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Speaker 2: Love You and see it tomorrow.