WEBVTT - Rachel Bloom Disobeys Bridger

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're a guest to my home.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta come to me empty And I said, no, guests,

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<v Speaker 3>your own presence is presence enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I already had too much stuff, So how do you

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<v Speaker 1>dare to surbey me?

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm bridgerd Wineger. We're

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<v Speaker 4>in the backyard. The temperature is tolerable. I'm feeling stronger

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<v Speaker 4>than ever. I was at the dentist last week and

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<v Speaker 4>for the first time in my life, the Hyjenna said,

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<v Speaker 4>you floss, don't you rather than do you floss? And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of riding that high. I've integrated cottage cheese

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<v Speaker 4>into my breakfast. That's going well. So things are I'm sailing.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get into the podcast. I love today's guest. It's

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<v Speaker 4>Rachel Bloom. Rachel welcomed to. I said, no gifts.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, what a delight that you didn't do.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't have to sit through like a mini bio

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<v Speaker 5>myself I can't do, which just feels like it just

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<v Speaker 5>feels like you're getting a lifetime achievement award or like

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<v Speaker 5>or it's almost like when you when you're in your hometown.

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<v Speaker 5>My hometown's thirty minutes away, but you're at the supermarket.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what have you done lately?

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, I don't want to tell you. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>want to be judged.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no like reasonable response to that sort of thing. Whenever,

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<v Speaker 4>like you're on a podcast or whatever and somebody goes

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<v Speaker 4>through all your cuds, what are you supposed to say? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you call me, thanks, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Plau's nice, great.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just hope that the listener. I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>our listener is aware enough that they see a name

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<v Speaker 4>of the guests and they know what's going on in

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<v Speaker 4>that guest's life.

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<v Speaker 2>There exists. You can google people very very easily.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't need a resume. This isn't a job interview.

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<v Speaker 4>You're wonderful, we'll have a nice time. And then if

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<v Speaker 4>the listener's curious if they've been living under a rock,

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<v Speaker 4>they type it in figure out more.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say, when it comes to me, if they've

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<v Speaker 5>been living under rock where they're ninety nine point nine

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<v Speaker 5>percent of the world's population, I'm really not that famous.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, no one's famous anymore, definitely, no one.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a list you know, every when you're making a

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<v Speaker 5>Have you ever been involved producing like an indie movie

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<v Speaker 5>or anything?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, every actor has a number next to their

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<v Speaker 5>name of the amount of money they are worth when

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<v Speaker 5>it comes to financing a movie, and the arm and

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<v Speaker 5>the narrow list of people who actually matter for movies.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to say it's over two million dollars. It's

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<v Speaker 5>like ten people.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course I could probably name all of them. They're like,

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<v Speaker 4>we all know who those people are.

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<v Speaker 5>Everyone House the Dragon currently Bridgerton, Yes, plus then you

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<v Speaker 5>add the George Clooney.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I'm I'm I'm out.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the loop on who really matters. But if I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's like Bridgton, Bridgerton, House of the Dragon, Anya

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<v Speaker 5>Taylor Joy, George Clooney, Florence Pugh, Jennifer Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, most recently, h Glenn Glenn Powell. But I'm

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<v Speaker 4>even reaching for Glenn's name. What world are we in

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<v Speaker 4>when I'm reaching for Glenn Powell's name?

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<v Speaker 5>Isn't that really weird that Glenn Powell is probably higher

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<v Speaker 5>up on that list than Glenn Close.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh. Interesting, Glenn must be furious Glenn Close.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sure Glenn Powell is too.

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<v Speaker 4>He's probably furious that he took her spot.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember when Olivia Coleman won the Oscar and she apologized

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<v Speaker 5>to Glenn Close.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, this one's supposed to be what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Now there's somebody who's really earned her her place.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what an act.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Olivia Coleman and she seems to have no

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<v Speaker 4>interest in being famous.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>I really adore her. And then going back to Bridgerton

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<v Speaker 4>and the House of the House of the Dragon. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't name a single person.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think the conjunction would have been if not.

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<v Speaker 4>The House of a Dragon, House of Dragon?

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<v Speaker 2>Just one?

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<v Speaker 4>I would prefer that I would be watching the show

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<v Speaker 4>if it was House Dragon.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, when it's just one very dramatic dragon who makes

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<v Speaker 5>everyone's life health.

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<v Speaker 4>Or House of lay Dragon, House of Uh? Thinking what

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<v Speaker 4>other language?

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<v Speaker 5>And now I just want to think of other TV

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<v Speaker 5>shows where you change one tiny letter and it changes

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<v Speaker 5>the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's think, let's see.

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<v Speaker 5>Here, because House of a Dragon is a very like

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<v Speaker 5>dramatic dragon and he's and he's a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh what shows? Yeah, everybody has probably already thought of

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<v Speaker 4>ten shows. And I'm just scrambling to think of a

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<v Speaker 4>TV show right now that could be on television. That's

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<v Speaker 4>more than one. Instead of the bear, a bear, a bear,

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<v Speaker 4>These Bears, Oh okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>These Bears is a sitcom about a Chicago sports bar.

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<v Speaker 4>And the four the four Bears who run the It's

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<v Speaker 4>it's a gay ultimately, it's very wait.

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of okay, I kind of love this. Has

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<v Speaker 5>anyone done an idea? Has anyone realized that a main

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<v Speaker 5>sports team, the Bears, is also a term for burly

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<v Speaker 5>Harry Gayman and it's also an animal What if it

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<v Speaker 5>was four gay actual animal bears running a bears sports

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<v Speaker 5>bar in Chicago and it's like a BoJack Horseman world

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<v Speaker 5>where animals are.

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<v Speaker 4>Set okay, but animated or live action?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's animated.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't get that made live action.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, look I just read that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Adult Swim thirteen years ago, it's four people in bear costumes.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, interesting, and that's it and it's like al.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like a cult hit.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember remember when like like your Pretty Face is going

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<v Speaker 5>to Hell, where like Adult Swim was doing live action

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<v Speaker 5>stuff that now would be cartoons.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, when shows had enough money to do that

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<v Speaker 4>sort of thing, when people were taking any level of

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<v Speaker 4>risk at all. I mean, again, back to House of

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<v Speaker 4>Odd Dragon, a dragon whatever. The reason I'm not watching

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<v Speaker 4>that show is, it's just I need them to add

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<v Speaker 4>a new fantasy creature. I watched all the Game of Thrones.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen enough dragons. Yeah, I've probably said it on

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<v Speaker 4>this podcast before, but give me a leprechaun, give me

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<v Speaker 4>a you know something in that universe.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm bored griffin, sasquatch.

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<v Speaker 4>There's so many of these things. Yeah, even a NeSSI,

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<v Speaker 4>which is essentially just a water dragon. Yeah, but to

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<v Speaker 4>see one of these things swimming, I'm back on board.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be cool.

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<v Speaker 4>But right now it's just more people arguing with each

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<v Speaker 4>other and dragons.

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<v Speaker 5>How's is the Dragon? Because I watched every episode of

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<v Speaker 5>Game of Thrones and I read most of the book

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<v Speaker 5>series too, How's the Dragon got me when they opened

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<v Speaker 5>with the brutal Sea section.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, that's what's another drama?

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<v Speaker 5>It's a well Also, I mean, this is a whole

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<v Speaker 5>other topic. But ever since I've had a kid, so

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<v Speaker 5>I've I've always been kind of a gruesome, weird person

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<v Speaker 5>who doesn't blanche easily at I don't know stories of

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<v Speaker 5>death and blood, and I went to the Museum of

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<v Speaker 5>Death Okay sure in Los Angeles, which is a which

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<v Speaker 5>is like a.

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<v Speaker 4>Rough haven't been Is it still rough?

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<v Speaker 2>It's still open?

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<v Speaker 5>I went for I think I wut with my parents

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<v Speaker 5>for Mother's Day a couple of years ago, which is

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<v Speaker 5>all you need to know about my family. And I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, fine, and they have it's like gruesome, gruesome stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Ever since I've had a kid, that has completely changed.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my tolerance swear for gruesomeness. My tolerance for really

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<v Speaker 5>murder horrible things in the world has gone down one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 4>Why do you think that is other than just the obvious.

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<v Speaker 4>I now I have something to take care.

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<v Speaker 5>Of, because you then suddenly imagine it happening to your

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<v Speaker 5>kid and it's and it's the worst thing you can

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<v Speaker 5>think of. And then the idea that people go around

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<v Speaker 5>murdering children is just like, well, I what, how does

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<v Speaker 5>that even happen? Like you're you're you love your kids

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<v Speaker 5>so much and it and they're these person who's so

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<v Speaker 5>incredibly innocent. And I say that this morning my daughter

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<v Speaker 5>fully headbutted my husband and he saw stars but she

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<v Speaker 5>didn't mean to. You know, they're so innocent. And then

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<v Speaker 5>Also then you think about on the flip side, well,

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<v Speaker 5>if I were to die, then my kid left without

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<v Speaker 5>a parent, right right, and and so it just I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, it gives you a level of investment.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I've talked to numerous people.

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<v Speaker 5>They're like, oh, before I had a kid, in retrospect,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe I was a psychopath.

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<v Speaker 4>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>There's something about you don't have. There's a lack of preciousness.

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<v Speaker 5>And I've been with my husband for sixteen years, but

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<v Speaker 5>I never had that with husband's.

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<v Speaker 2>Death, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I got is with dog death. Ever

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<v Speaker 5>since I've had a dog, You know what is I've

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<v Speaker 5>never been able.

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<v Speaker 2>To deal with.

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<v Speaker 5>Like for all, for how gruesome Game of Thrones was,

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<v Speaker 5>the worst scenes were when they killed a dial wolf.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, course it's awful. I mean I will never

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<v Speaker 4>have kids, But my dog passing was up until now,

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<v Speaker 4>the worst thing that's ever happened to me. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>just an awful What happened now, well, I mean, well

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<v Speaker 4>nothing yet. I'm sure other horrible things. As life goes on,

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<v Speaker 4>there will be much. We've got a whole list of

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<v Speaker 4>horrible things that could continue happening.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's all it's awful.

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<v Speaker 5>My dog is and this is I have a Netflix

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<v Speaker 5>special coming out, not to not to not to brag,

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<v Speaker 5>not to like come here, but but a big part

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<v Speaker 5>of it is it's a show about death, and I

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<v Speaker 5>talk about my dog is. She's my only pet, and.

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<v Speaker 2>She's six She's not sixteen, she's fifteen, okay, And so

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<v Speaker 2>that is a looming.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>How old was your dog?

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<v Speaker 4>She was ten? Oh no, not a good feel.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure you've talked about it on the podcast, because

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<v Speaker 5>that seems i'll taken before her time situation.

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<v Speaker 4>She was a big dog. It was it was only

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<v Speaker 4>seven months ago. So it was really horrible. It was

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<v Speaker 4>before I mean, it's always before their time. It's like, no,

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<v Speaker 4>but ten is young.

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<v Speaker 5>But but for big dogs, it so sucks that like

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<v Speaker 5>the size correlates to well.

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<v Speaker 4>And she tricked us because she was so lovely and

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<v Speaker 4>so youthful, and it was just like, oh, she's to

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<v Speaker 4>be here forever. Then you know, it's horrible, and then

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<v Speaker 4>it just we would have, of course kept her for

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<v Speaker 4>another one hundred years. Of course, no time, no amount

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<v Speaker 4>of time was enough. But then there's the whole, like,

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<v Speaker 4>we have to be good to her. We can't drag

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<v Speaker 4>her through what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to do the Barber streis End cloning thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I mean until this happened, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 4>like Barber Streisends out of her mind. Why would you

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<v Speaker 4>ever clone a dog? And I'm like, well, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>if I had a mall in my basement, I probably

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<v Speaker 4>would get my dog cloned as well. Yes, but in

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<v Speaker 4>the future we'll have another dog in Edie's spirit will

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<v Speaker 4>be within that exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>No, you get you get you suddenly get the cloning

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<v Speaker 5>thing right, even though these I mean the dog cloning

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<v Speaker 5>is you basically forcefully impregnate another dog.

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<v Speaker 4>You are dog, Let's be clear. Yeah, I mean yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>there are so many dogs out there, we're ready for

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<v Speaker 4>a new home. I'm like, of course, I'm never gonna

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<v Speaker 4>get one cloned. The one person that I was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of on board with getting the dog cloned was did

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<v Speaker 4>you ever see the movie Tabloid. No, it's an Errol

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<v Speaker 4>Morris documentary about this woman who forcibly kidnapped a Mormon

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<v Speaker 4>missionary in London in the seventies. That was a whole

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<v Speaker 4>news story, And then decades later, she's back in the news.

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<v Speaker 4>I think she was the first person to get her

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<v Speaker 4>dog cloned.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the one person you think should get their dog.

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<v Speaker 5>Cloned, because this woman is You're like, she clone her

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<v Speaker 5>dog than murder people murder.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean that might be a I mean, she

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<v Speaker 4>might have another chapter or her life when she does

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<v Speaker 4>that again. But she did have her dog cloned. I

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<v Speaker 4>think her dog's name was Booger.

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<v Speaker 5>So she has a quite she has some money if

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<v Speaker 5>you get because if you get your I think it's like,

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's what it's got to be, twenty thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>Easily twenty thousand dollars, especially if you're the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she was the first one in the UK

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<v Speaker 2>to have her dog cloned.

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<v Speaker 4>Well she I think she lives in like Wyoming, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean the last I checked in on her. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think the dogs were cloned in South Korea. And I

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<v Speaker 4>don't even know how she got wrapped up in this

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<v Speaker 4>because fifty k, fifty k, that's a chunk of chain. Adopt,

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<v Speaker 4>don't clone, I would say, unless you are, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>this woman. Who if you're a kidnapper.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like you've and you're like, I got to

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<v Speaker 5>get this out somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>It's either kidnap or clone a dog. Me sure, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but I love this is exactly what I came here

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about today.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is what you've called a head and said

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<v Speaker 4>we'll we be talking dog cloning. And I said, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll do my research.

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<v Speaker 5>Because you know, and I'll say it's not actually that

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<v Speaker 5>important to me. I mostly can with a couple exceptions.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right back to the Museum of Death. Yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 4>have you been to there's another sort of museum of

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<v Speaker 4>death in LA. Are you familiar with this? That the

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<v Speaker 4>Scientology Church.

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<v Speaker 2>Rights it's psychiatry and industry of death. I have not been.

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<v Speaker 2>I have passed it many times. I will not.

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<v Speaker 5>As much as I'm curious to see Scientology things, I

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<v Speaker 5>do not want to enter one of the buildings because

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<v Speaker 5>they will immediately have a record of me entering.

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<v Speaker 4>I think.

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<v Speaker 5>Although there's a great podcast called O No Ross and Carry,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's these two lovely people who are also they

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<v Speaker 5>basically go around to kind of I think their motto

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<v Speaker 5>is like we explore weird cults and fads so you

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<v Speaker 5>don't have to okay, And there's like an eight it's

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<v Speaker 5>like more than eight parts of like, Okay, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>we're gonna take classes in scientology, and we're not gonna

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<v Speaker 5>lie about who we are. We're not gonna be upfront

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<v Speaker 5>and say we own a podcast, but we're gonna use

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<v Speaker 5>our real names.

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<v Speaker 2>And let let's see how far we go.

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<v Speaker 5>And so they like take a bunch of scientology classes

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<v Speaker 5>and they report on it. And the Church of Scientology

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<v Speaker 5>is jankier actually than you than you might expect. Like

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<v Speaker 5>you think that they would have been kicked out of

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<v Speaker 5>the class. You know, they google them and been like,

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<v Speaker 5>you guys are podcasters.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 4>They were just happy that anyone's showing up.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And they get locked in a like they get

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<v Speaker 5>locked in a room with no food, but it's more

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<v Speaker 5>that they just don't It seems like they don't have

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<v Speaker 5>the money for food.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I believe all of this. I've been I've

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<v Speaker 4>gotten my personality test. I've been to the big blue buildings.

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<v Speaker 2>So you haven't been to psychiatry and Industry of Death.

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<v Speaker 4>I've also been there, Okay, so what's it like? Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I've also been at the Celebrity Center. Okay, surprise, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a scientologist, are you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's what this podcast is.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a new thing I'd like to talk to

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<v Speaker 4>you about, Rachel. No, okay, So which one do you

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<v Speaker 4>want to hear about first?

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<v Speaker 5>What is the argument for psychiatry? Tell me about psychiatry

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<v Speaker 5>an industry of death.

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<v Speaker 4>Believe it or not. It's based on a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>things that aren't true. No, it's a I mean, it

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<v Speaker 4>is a confusing place. I mean it's a weird place

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<v Speaker 4>to go because it's almost empty. They blame essentially all

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<v Speaker 4>death in history on psychiatry. They blame like the Holocaust

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<v Speaker 4>on psychiatry. They blame nine to eleven on psychiatric.

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<v Speaker 5>Psycholtan because the Holocaust is like I could see where

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<v Speaker 5>you're like Hitler was into eugenics and like.

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<v Speaker 4>Into bending it a little bit stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe like I could understand, like the phrenology stuff was

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<v Speaker 5>some weird psychiatrists. Nine to eleven on psychiatry is really interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I can't remember how they made that connection, but

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<v Speaker 4>they you know, they were they thought of something.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a hot take.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an extremely hot take.

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<v Speaker 5>But here's but here's that in America at least they

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<v Speaker 5>admit it happened.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true. I mean, they're very how how progressive of

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<v Speaker 4>them to think that it actually was an event rather

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<v Speaker 4>than something that was cooked up as a conspiracy or that.

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<v Speaker 2>It or that it.

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<v Speaker 5>Never had I don't know. I feel like there's people

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<v Speaker 5>who are like, it actually never happened or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Although now that I'm thinking about it, maybe that is

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<v Speaker 4>what their take was. I can't remember. I was so

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<v Speaker 4>concerned about the family behind us, who clearly didn't realize

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<v Speaker 4>it was a scientology operation. I don't know why I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't turn around and just say, like, you know, this

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<v Speaker 4>is all nonsense, right, this is all cooked up to

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<v Speaker 4>trick you into joining a religion. But you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>got a mind your own business. And I was trying

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<v Speaker 4>to enjoy my time at the Museumya.

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<v Speaker 5>You're in town from Nebraska or whatever. Like this place

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<v Speaker 5>is cheap, it's empty, it's cool.

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<v Speaker 4>They've got ac Yeah. I'll walk around a museum learning

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<v Speaker 4>about how evil psychiatry is for an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the Creation Museum in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, very nice, very nice museum, great air conditioning. Everyone

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<v Speaker 5>was very friendly.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>The gift shop was good and I have to say

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<v Speaker 5>the food court was not bad.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a cheesy chili that was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>This makes sense, Yes, Kentucky Christians. Of course they've got

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<v Speaker 4>to have some sort of chili.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, and it was it was good. They were

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<v Speaker 2>very kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Did they know anything about you? No?

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<v Speaker 5>No, this is this was in two thousand and nine,

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<v Speaker 5>So this is you know, fifteen.

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<v Speaker 4>How did you end up in there? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Good question. My boyfriend at the time, who's now my husband.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been with my husband a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a funny way to your husband. I know.

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<v Speaker 5>My boyfriend at the time is not like because it's

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<v Speaker 5>like my boyfriend, but I don't have a boyfriend anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a husband.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not a din.

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<v Speaker 4>Weird interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>He's also my ex fiance. I guess he was moving cross.

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<v Speaker 5>Country because La is where you wanted to make it

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<v Speaker 5>for comedy. I mean, now LA is being being sold

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<v Speaker 5>for parts, so but but fifteen years ago, LA was

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<v Speaker 5>where you were gonna move if you wanted to work

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<v Speaker 5>in the entertainment industry. And I hadn't decided if I

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<v Speaker 5>was moving up. But we decided to drive cross country.

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<v Speaker 5>And we had only been together for like a year

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<v Speaker 5>and it was a cool way. It really actually strengthened

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<v Speaker 5>our relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>When you when you drive cross country with someone, if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't hate them at the end, you marry them.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we were driving through.

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<v Speaker 5>We decided to take a more southern route with like

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we'd go down to Saint Louis and he

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<v Speaker 5>and we were like, what's on the We kind of

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<v Speaker 5>had this day where it was like, all right, we're

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<v Speaker 5>going through kind of the Kentucky, Ohio area, and we

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<v Speaker 5>were just looking up what's nearby and we were like,

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<v Speaker 5>oh my god, the Creation Museum. This is going to

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<v Speaker 5>be fascinating. And this is before he was still really

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<v Speaker 5>paranoid that we that he had a New York zip

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<v Speaker 5>code on his credit card. He thought they remember that

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<v Speaker 5>that old I think is it chili commercial?

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<v Speaker 2>This is made in New York.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, of course yes.

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<v Speaker 5>So he thought they'd be like New York City, but

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<v Speaker 5>like they didn't care. He was like, if anyone asks

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<v Speaker 5>were lapsed Baptists from Richmond, and I went, I know

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<v Speaker 5>nothing about that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this feels I mean, you're going to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to answer no questions immediately.

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<v Speaker 5>But like scientology, I think was overestimating that how much

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<v Speaker 5>they would be zeroing in on us when it when

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<v Speaker 5>in Really they were just happy that we were going

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<v Speaker 5>right find out about how you know, Adam and Eve

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<v Speaker 5>rote dinosaurs, And there's a diorama of that, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really cool.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to see that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really cool.

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<v Speaker 5>They have an exact replica of Noah's ark that you

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<v Speaker 5>can walk through down to the cubit.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow. So it's I mean, it's proportionally the size of

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<v Speaker 4>what we would imagine the arc was Dad's big boat.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Yeah, interesting called Dad's big boat.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I kind of refer to know the story

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<v Speaker 4>of Noah as Dad's crazy idea. I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of what it boils down to. But how big

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<v Speaker 4>was this thing?

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<v Speaker 2>It was big.

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<v Speaker 5>It was many many cubits. It was this This museum

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<v Speaker 5>is huge. And what I thought going into the museum

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<v Speaker 5>is that they would acknowledge science and then find some

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<v Speaker 5>sort of excuse right where it's like they'd acknowledge carbon

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<v Speaker 5>dating and being like, but this is actually a trick

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<v Speaker 5>because bah blah blah, no, no, no, they just don't

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<v Speaker 5>mention carbon dates.

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<v Speaker 4>Will ignore.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they just don't mention carbon dating and they just don't.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't mention anything that isn't evidence. They just don't mention.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't they don't try to refute any evidence. And

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<v Speaker 5>I imagine the industry of death museum was similar.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, right, I mean I think that they there's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of cherry picking effects at the psychiatry museum, where

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<v Speaker 4>it's like you can pick that somebody wants odeed on

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<v Speaker 4>some sort of medication and then you can blow that

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<v Speaker 4>out to it's killed humanity.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, has psychiatry always been great?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I mean it's it's a science. It's always evolvelways evolving.

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<v Speaker 4>People do it. So there are a lot of problems.

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<v Speaker 4>Anything that a person's involved, there's going to be a problem,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's also done. You're talking to somebody that's on

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<v Speaker 4>four hundred and fifty milligrams of wellbuturned right now, Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm always interested in because I'm on twenty milligrams of prozac.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>My life can be divided.

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<v Speaker 5>By before prozac and after prozac, because after prozac it

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<v Speaker 5>was such a subtle change at first, and I realized

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<v Speaker 5>and it wasn't until I realized, oh, I was miserable

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I'm not.

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<v Speaker 5>But the milligram stuff is interesting because I'm on twenty

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<v Speaker 5>of prozac.

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<v Speaker 4>FOI the dwarfs your you know.

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<v Speaker 5>But I don't think like, I don't think you can

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<v Speaker 5>be on four hundred and fifty milligrams of prozacs.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think it's just a different right. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>salt and sugar or whatever. You can have so much

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<v Speaker 4>of one or the other. But four hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 4>I think is like probably moderate to high. I think

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<v Speaker 4>you can go higher. I started at one fifty and

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<v Speaker 4>then they, you know, ease it up until you like

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<v Speaker 4>you're feeling all right. Yeah, and it's I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 4>of course I'm still miserable a long time, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>just by nature, sure, But I no longer am mean

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<v Speaker 4>to myself as often good, which feels incredible. Now when

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<v Speaker 4>I'm mad at somebody, don't blame myself. I yell at

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<v Speaker 4>them alone. You know, I'm driving around and I'm saying

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<v Speaker 4>bad things to that person rather than to myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still working on that, so maybe I need to

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<v Speaker 2>up my pros.

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<v Speaker 4>You might want to look into it, But first kind,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a museum I want you to go to. But

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<v Speaker 4>this creation is thing. I'm so curious.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish it's all to me.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all and I'm biased because I'm an atheist, so

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.920
<v Speaker 5>a fundamental to me, fundamentalism is fundamentalism. It's all cherry

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<v Speaker 5>picking things. But the Creation it was a very nice museum.

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<v Speaker 4>How big was the museum? Was it like compared to

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<v Speaker 4>a museum here in La it was a lackma size.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd say, like the equivalent of a floor and a

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<v Speaker 5>half of the California Science Center.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, now, never being to that museum, just imagine taken

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<v Speaker 4>up on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it.

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<v Speaker 5>There were a couple of really like big like there

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<v Speaker 5>was the nose arc thing. There was the Adam and

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<v Speaker 5>Eve writing dinosaurs, very fun where you need these big rooms, right,

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<v Speaker 5>And then there was a room I have photos still

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<v Speaker 5>there was a room where it was like, oh it

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<v Speaker 5>was It was a single room that was like a

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<v Speaker 5>bad neighborhood in the city and it was like police

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<v Speaker 5>sirens and graffiti and then photos of what leads to

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<v Speaker 5>society's decline, which is a dad looking at internet porn,

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<v Speaker 5>and then a woman giving birth which is evidence of

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<v Speaker 5>our punishment.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was one worse thing. Yeah, I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>getting it was it was really interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>What dinosaurs were Adam and Eve writing.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I just kind of want to put on

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<v Speaker 5>podcast and see if I have let's see.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you see if I can find them

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<v Speaker 2>from twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>I always want to say brontosaurus, but I know that

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<v Speaker 4>we've recently changed the word. It's no longer called a

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<v Speaker 4>brontosaurus for some reason. Hot at least, do you have.

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<v Speaker 2>Any idea with the brachiosaurus.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it now called a brachiosaurus?

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<v Speaker 2>It says an animated triceratops.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I like this, complete with saddle, blanket and saddle,

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<v Speaker 4>is ridden by Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.

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<v Speaker 4>This is incredible. I mean I may not believe it,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm in support.

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<v Speaker 5>Hold on scrolling past my wedding photos because this.

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<v Speaker 4>Is years before those are also on a triceratops.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, our katuba, which is like you know, the Jewish

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<v Speaker 5>marriage agreement. Our friend handmade Arkatuba and it contains dinosaurs.

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<v Speaker 4>Amazing because he was like, what is.

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<v Speaker 5>Important to you and we said stars, dinosaurs, New York

0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:49.879
<v Speaker 5>City and LA so it's like dinosaurs in New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>Griffith observatory. It's it's a.

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<v Speaker 4>Beautiful that's lovely.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, hold on, okay, here we go here. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 5>here's the Creation Museum. So now we're now we're at

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<v Speaker 5>present thrilled.

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<v Speaker 2>So first the chili.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it looks like a great chili. It's got grated

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 4>cheese and tomatoes on top, which I support, and a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of lettuce.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my nails are horrible right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, Oh I thought you were gonna see your nails

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<v Speaker 4>in the picture. Okay, move on.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the gift shop.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a I mean a beautiful that's more of a

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<v Speaker 4>Game of Throne style dinas or dragon gorgeous. That's a

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<v Speaker 4>house of a dragon.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the house of a dragon. So they are maybe conflating.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they might be because dragons are in the Bible,

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 4>The Fords probably shows up there.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is fun.

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<v Speaker 4>This is having fun with everything in the museum.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of don't touch, it says what does it say?

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<v Speaker 4>No shall not touch? Exclamation point?

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<v Speaker 2>Please, very polite.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Now we have an actual skeleton. We have some

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<v Speaker 4>sort of is that a mastodon?

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<v Speaker 2>Mastodon?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, with the giant tusks. Tusk I was gonna say, forks,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not a Okay, so here's here's Eve. Now we've

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<v Speaker 4>got a dino. Oh that's Eve. I think this is

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be looking kind of busted.

0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 2>But she's full, she's fully dressed.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I just got a apples sack cloth on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's Eve with a little dinosaur.

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<v Speaker 4>Eve is not you know, you know when you think

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<v Speaker 4>of Eve, you think of kind of a vibrant, fun

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<v Speaker 4>person wearing leaves. This is somebody who just crawled out

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<v Speaker 4>from under a car. And then there's a dinosaur and

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<v Speaker 4>she's smiling.

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<v Speaker 5>Like she's like but she's not freaked out that there

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<v Speaker 5>are dinosaurs next to her. She's just like pleasantly surprised.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 5>Now a Tara Dak called the Dragon Hall bookstore. So

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<v Speaker 5>they're conflating throughout this museum dinosaurs and dreams.

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<v Speaker 4>The word dinosaur.

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<v Speaker 5>Dragons are in the Bible, so I think what they're

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<v Speaker 5>saying is they're the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I think, right. And then we're seeing so this

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<v Speaker 4>is a.

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<v Speaker 5>Parody of the movie Men in Black, but it's called

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<v Speaker 5>Men in White. I don't know the context of this.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a looks like Joey FATONI I don't think it is.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you're in Kentucky it's calling something men in white,

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<v Speaker 4>you're fully aware that there's another group that wears all white.

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<v Speaker 4>It's come on, that's true.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a hip take on the Seven Seas in

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 5>God's eternal planets. Okay, creation, corruption, catastrophe, confusion, christ cross.

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 4>Consummation, consummation, and that's science, the classic seven seeds, seven sees.

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<v Speaker 5>So these are some pretty shitty looking human dioramas. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a mom saying to a kid, come on, let me

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<v Speaker 5>show you the rest, and the kids saying I never

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<v Speaker 5>heard this before in school, but.

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<v Speaker 4>We know he's homeschooled. He's definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Adam. Adam a lot hotter.

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<v Speaker 4>She's just way better looking. I'm sorry, but the scales

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 4>are not balanced here.

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Someone clearly like making out.

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<v Speaker 4>Of it, of course more than artist at that museum,

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<v Speaker 4>and he has a wife.

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<v Speaker 5>But also I want to point out there were penguins

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<v Speaker 5>in the Garden of Envegas because oh no, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 5>that's Eve.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know who that was.

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:45.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who. Eve's hot.

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 4>Eve's got great hair, looks like she just straightened her hair.

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<v Speaker 4>She's got a blowout or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she looks over there.

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<v Speaker 4>God, this is too sexy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now it's now they're now they've gone.

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<v Speaker 4>Too far in the other direction. There's this poor woman

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<v Speaker 4>in the sack cloth. Yeah, that doesn't know this is

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 4>happening behind her. They're both shirtless. Adam is ripped great

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:12.160
<v Speaker 4>beard and Eve is. I mean, this is erotic, filthy.

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<v Speaker 5>There's an angry wolf. I don't know why. I mean, again, wild,

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.679
<v Speaker 5>I could go. I had a great time, as you can.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's no building the arc.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, oh, okay, having a nice time in the arc.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks like he's wearing a backwards cap, but.

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<v Speaker 2>That's he looks pretty hip hop.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, what a trip that was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to show you what that was.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I would love to keep talking about the

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<v Speaker 4>Creationist Museum, but there is something else we should discuss. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't necessarily want to talk about And didn't

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, wasn't planning to today. I thought, you know,

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 4>Rachel will come over, we'll have a great time. We

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 4>discussed beforehand that we would be talking about all kinds

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 4>of things. I can't even remember the things we agreed to. Psychiatry,

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<v Speaker 4>the dangers of psychia, tree, et cetera. So I was

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<v Speaker 4>a little surprised when you came into my backyard holding

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<v Speaker 4>what is clearly a gift.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, look, I know you said no gifts, but I

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 5>had a poster of Vincent van Goh lying around my

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<v Speaker 5>house and I was like, what am I going to

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 5>use this for?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>It would make great wrapping paper. And then I needed

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 5>something to put in the wrapping paper. Right, So that's

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 5>really what it is is. I needed to get rid

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 5>of this Vincent van Go poster. Okay, but I didn't

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 5>want to waste paper, and I was like, I'm about

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<v Speaker 5>to see someone. He can take my extra paper. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess I should give him something in the paper.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, perfectly reasonable, I mean that makes perfect sense. Yeah,

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 4>that's as much. That makes as much sense as everything

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 4>in the creation.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, weirdly, this gift is going to be I didn't

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 5>even plan this. This gift is going to be very

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 5>weirdly relevant to what we've just been discussed.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the Bible.

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 2>It's the Bible, because I don't think you've heard the word.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm going to open up it's very thick paper.

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 5>Because again it's a poster from the We went to

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 5>the Immersive Vincent Bango Experience and we got a free poster.

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 5>By the way, go there on mushrooms and not with

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 5>a child. That's my hot tip, because I did the opposite.

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't sound like a place for a baby.

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 2>But two, she was two at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>She didn't care, right, I mean, I don't blame her,

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 4>and I mean they give you a nice poster. Yeah,

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 4>perfect wrapping paper. I love a thick wrapping paper, very thick. Party.

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 4>It is a poster and it's now being destroyed. I'm

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 4>so sorry, but it's I kept it mostly in peace.

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 4>What is this I actually don't even know. It's like

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 4>a black box with a skull and some colors on it.

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 4>I mean colorfull circle.

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 2>So look at the side.

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<v Speaker 4>This is side effects, okay, te minutes to learn.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want the full story of this?

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 4>Of course, I need to know what's happening here.

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<v Speaker 5>A couple of years ago, I'm sorry, a couple months ago,

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 5>I performed on this thing called the Joco Cruise.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a really fun comedy music. It's almost like like

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 2>a like.

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<v Speaker 5>It's almost like it's not comic con, because comic Con

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 5>is much more about like film and TV, but like

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 5>it's it's like a going to like dragon combat. It's

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 5>on a cruise, sh right, met some lovely people. Hm

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 5>was my first cruise. Man comes up to me and says,

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 5>I have made this game. This is about Uh, this

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 5>is a game that is fun to play, but also

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 5>it's informational about mental illness and medication. Wonderful and so

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<v Speaker 5>side this is called side Effects. It is labeled for

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<v Speaker 5>two to eight players, three minutes to learn, ten to

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<v Speaker 5>thirty minutes to play, ages fourteen and up, and the

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 5>directions say each player is assigned a series of mental disorders.

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<v Speaker 5>Draw cards from the deck and place drugs over your

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 5>disorders to treat them, but beware each drug contains side

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 5>effects that leave you open to receiving more disorders from

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 5>other players.

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 4>Oh this feels like some sensitive territory to be playing

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 4>a game with.

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 5>It's yes, but but he's coming at it from a

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 5>mental health education space. He gave this to me, and

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 5>I can't play this with my kid because she's not

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 5>fourteen yet.

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 4>You'll come back here in twelve years.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, hey, I want my game.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just thought, what a perfect Have you ever

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<v Speaker 4>played this before?

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<v Speaker 2>I have not played it yet.

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<v Speaker 4>Now this is true, I mean, I mean I would

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<v Speaker 4>assume as somebody that put this much effort. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>beautiful looking box course of game that they must have

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<v Speaker 4>some knowledge of mental illness and hopefully are treading lightly.

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<v Speaker 5>I think this person had had the person to create

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<v Speaker 5>a night I should know his name.

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<v Speaker 2>He did a lot of.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh you can order says want more side effects, order

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<v Speaker 5>the booster shot, which is the expansion pack.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, really cool. I think it's just a game

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.239
<v Speaker 2>that teaches you about Oh yeah, it's easy to set up.

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't like right, separate all the disorders from the deck,

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<v Speaker 5>shuffle them, and deal out four per player, face up

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<v Speaker 5>in front of them.

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<v Speaker 2>This is referred to as their psyche.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow. No, yeah, I'm looking at the back and it

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<v Speaker 4>says like one of the cards says you're having an episode,

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<v Speaker 4>so they're obviously having some. I imagine that whoever did

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<v Speaker 4>this also has some level of mental illness.

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<v Speaker 5>That is yes, yes, this is very much a game

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<v Speaker 5>from the inside out of mental of mental illness and

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<v Speaker 5>not looking inside outside and to like make fun of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Unless it's as scientologist. This is a scientolic. I don't

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 4>think he's a scientologist, right, every answer is don't seek

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<v Speaker 4>a psychiatrist.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, this is so interesting. So there's a therapy card.

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<v Speaker 5>You can use a therapy card. I want to read

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<v Speaker 5>a highlight of the rules, which is the only card

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<v Speaker 5>that therapy does not work on is tremors. It's also

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<v Speaker 5>worth mentioning there's no drug for anorexia. You must treat

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<v Speaker 5>this with therapy. The only downside of treating a disorder

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<v Speaker 5>with therapy is that the disorder is no longer in

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<v Speaker 5>your psyche, and that means that you could, in theory,

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<v Speaker 5>get it again.

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<v Speaker 4>I have so many complicated feelings about this. Yeah, who

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<v Speaker 4>is supposed to be playing this? This feels so triggering.

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<v Speaker 5>Us And if you're fourteen and up, I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>meant to be an educational game.

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<v Speaker 2>But also, I mean, this is my exact kind of game.

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I love Yes early into this.

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<v Speaker 4>And I feel like it probably is ultimately a healthy

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 4>thing where it's like, let's just we all have some

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 4>mental illness. Let's talk about it, rather than act like

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<v Speaker 4>it's something we should keep in a closet hidden from people.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, So, you know, I'm gonna ask my therapy tomorrow.

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to ask her what she thinks of this game.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would like, Yeah, you should like it. I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like this feels like it should ultimately be healthy.

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm sure if you're having severe issues with

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<v Speaker 4>mental illness, you probably want to work through some of

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<v Speaker 4>that before getting into the gaming sector. Yeah, playing it

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 4>with friends, you know. But I feel like, for example,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to speak to your journey, but I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like I have some level of control over my

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<v Speaker 4>mental illness. I could probably dip in so and so.

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<v Speaker 5>Could I right if I now, if I was in

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<v Speaker 5>the middle of I haven't had it in a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of years, but like, there will be moments where I

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<v Speaker 5>go into like an OCD intrusive thought spiral.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I probably shouldn't play that.

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<v Speaker 5>One through the spiral, right, especially because the way to

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<v Speaker 5>get through my OCD in trusive thoughts spiral is to not.

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Dwell on the thoughts.

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<v Speaker 5>Makes sense, but not in a thought spiral. I'm free

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<v Speaker 5>to play side effects.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I ask you, when you're not trying to dwell

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<v Speaker 4>on things, what you do, like what other things you

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<v Speaker 4>think about? How do you distract yourself from spiraling and.

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:23.839
<v Speaker 5>You just think about it? You focus on anything else,

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<v Speaker 5>and if you have the thought, you don't. My My

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<v Speaker 5>big thing with anxiety and OCD, because I mean this

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<v Speaker 5>is I could talk about this for literally days. But

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<v Speaker 5>my whole thing is whenever I'm anxious or I have

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:38.720
<v Speaker 5>and it verges into OCD and the two thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, the two.

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<v Speaker 5>Realms are slightly different, but for me it's I try

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<v Speaker 5>to solve it, uh huh. And what that is is,

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 5>I think it's my survival brain going, oh, you're you're

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<v Speaker 5>a cave woman. You're eve with the dinosaur've sensed there's

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 5>a lion in the bushes, right danger Will Robinson, You need.

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<v Speaker 2>To solve this. So I think about the thought. I

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<v Speaker 2>think about my anxiety. But what that does.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't solve anything that I Actually the only way

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 5>to really get clarity is to not dwell on it.

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 5>When I was first working on getting out of my

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<v Speaker 5>OCD thoughts, it felt like when I was teetering on it,

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 5>it felt like I was almost balancing on the side.

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Of a pool, sure like a swimming pool.

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 5>And if I were to dip my toe in just

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<v Speaker 5>engage in a thought, I would follow.

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 4>Of course, I'm familiar with this feeling and this.

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<v Speaker 5>Is something that I am actively still working on and

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 5>probably will always.

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Be working on.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, It's just part of you, but you at least

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 4>are kind of aware and can fight back.

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<v Speaker 5>Most of the time, now I have the tools to

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<v Speaker 5>understand what's going on, as opposed to one I was eleven,

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 5>thinking I'm doing this to myself.

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm weird, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's I'm kind of similar. I feel like the

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<v Speaker 4>only time that I'm the time I'm weakest is when

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 4>i wake up in the middle of the night and

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:01.479
<v Speaker 4>I'm out of it. If I have one intrusive thought,

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 4>that thing blows up to beyond the universe. And if

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 4>I can just remember that I just woke up and

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 4>that I'm out of my mind because I'm basically half asleep,

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 4>i can get back to bed. But otherwise I'm up

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:12.879
<v Speaker 4>the rest of the night.

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, But most of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Time I've been able to kind of I mean again,

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 4>back to being medicated, I think that helps.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's a tool, right like the medication. For me,

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:25.280
<v Speaker 5>it was a supplement to the therapy, and that's suddenly

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:28.880
<v Speaker 5>actually using these therapy techniques.

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:31.240
<v Speaker 2>It helped.

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<v Speaker 4>It helped a lot, right where like before I was medicated,

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<v Speaker 4>and with therapy I would be able to recognize that

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:40.719
<v Speaker 4>the thing was happening but was still pretty There was

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 4>still a large chance that I would fall prey to it.

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 4>But now I can recognize and I have something behind

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<v Speaker 4>me that can help me push back. Yes, I'm a

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 4>little stronger and can actually use the tool.

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 5>And I have to say, ever since, because I was

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 5>on ten milligrams of prozac for a while, I doubled

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:55.279
<v Speaker 5>it last year.

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<v Speaker 2>What a good decision. I feel.

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<v Speaker 5>There's just a you know, this thing of like, oh, antidepressants.

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 5>Everyone's on happy pills. No, no, no, it's not a

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 5>happy it's not a happy pill.

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 2>It's a fortitude pill. That's what it feels like for me.

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if anyone is an example of them not

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 4>being happy pills, it's me. Uh it's not a word

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 4>I would describe, but yeah, that's you're right on with that.

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 2>It's like coming around with a smile on my face.

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 2>That wredible. I think happy pills that's called ecstasy.

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 4>Yes, there are more illicit ways to get to happiness. Uh,

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.279
<v Speaker 4>this is more of a you know, it's just it's medicine.

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's just a mind it felt it feels like

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:44.240
<v Speaker 5>it's my mind is at the gym, and look, something's

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 5>up with my serotonin.

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:47.359
<v Speaker 4>Right. Was it hard to get to the point where

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.759
<v Speaker 4>you wanted to actually, because for me, it was like

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 4>it took years before I could even decide I'm going

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:57.800
<v Speaker 4>to try medication. And I think it was because depression

0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 4>and all of this was like, it keeps you from

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 4>doing a lot of things.

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, something flipped in my head. I had a crisis.

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 5>It was basically my husband. So my husband, my ex fiance.

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 5>He proposed around the time we had just pitched crazy

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 5>ex girlfriend and it sold to showtime. And I had

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 5>had this crisis of like, these good things are mine

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 5>to lose, and it precipitated this kind of intrusive thought crisis,

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 5>the likes of which I hadn't really had since middle school.

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.839
<v Speaker 5>And up until then I dealt I'd been dealing with

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.400
<v Speaker 5>OCD thoughts and end up and down depression and anxiety,

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 5>and I've been in therapy to varying results. But I

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 5>had always told myself wrongfully that oh well, I'm mustling

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 5>through this without medicine. And then I remember it was

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:47.720
<v Speaker 5>one night, it was like March twenty fourteen, something switch

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.359
<v Speaker 5>and I was like I need help, I need help,

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:52.719
<v Speaker 5>I need to And it was like a night before

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 5>I think I was shooting a commercial that never even aired,

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 5>and I couldn't sleep because I had like sleep anxiety,

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:00.839
<v Speaker 5>and so I was like, I need to I need

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 5>to do something about this, and I wrote up an

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 5>entire history of my like mynt my mental health history,

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 5>and that night, maybe the next night, I went on

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:13.760
<v Speaker 5>Psychology Today and I found a psychiatrist and he changed

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 5>my life.

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 2>And then he sadly passed away a couple of years ago.

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 4>Oh I'm sorry.

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 4>Of psychology today though, is another great tool.

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:24.239
<v Speaker 5>It's a great tool because I was like, I want

0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 5>a psychiatrist who deals with anxiety and sleep disorders. And

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 5>I slept out Santa Monica for you know, seven eight years,

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 5>and it was worth.

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.800
<v Speaker 4>It, right, completely worth it. You get onto your little

0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:40.360
<v Speaker 4>plan and things start to roll along much easier.

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 1>Great.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I recommend it to anybody. Medication is not for everybody,

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 4>but it's for a lot of people.

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 5>But if you need it, but if your brain has

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 5>a chemical thing going on, which my brain one hundred

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 5>percent does.

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 4>Take it, Yeah, take it like any other thing.

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Just the life is chaos. Do what's going to make

0:39:58.800 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 2>you happy?

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 4>Truth. That's where I am at this point, where I'm like,

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 4>I said, are you minding your own business and it's

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:05.320
<v Speaker 4>making you happy? Go for it?

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Kind of where I'm at.

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 5>That's also where I'm at where I'm like, whatever, you

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 5>know what, like, as long as it's not fucking with

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 5>anyone else, you do you right, right and then and

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 5>then when it's fucks with someone else, then we have

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:17.280
<v Speaker 5>a Yeah.

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 4>Then I get start to freak out.

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course.

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:21.840
<v Speaker 4>Do you watch Couple's Therapy?

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't, but I need to.

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 4>I hear it's so good recently hooked, great, wonderful show.

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I've listened to the podcast now which now

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 4>I my friends Naomi Andy have a podcast called Couple's Therapy,

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:37.319
<v Speaker 4>which is a comedy which I've been wonderful. But now

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:41.919
<v Speaker 4>there's another. Okay, we've got a Unfortunately, this these two

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:43.839
<v Speaker 4>words need to we need to think of a new

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 4>way to call couple's therapy.

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:47.400
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what you would call it. It's just

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:49.399
<v Speaker 5>called couple's therapy. I don't know what else you would.

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 4>Wow, it's a very hard thing to google.

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 2>You'd call it group. You'd call it group therapy, but

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 2>only two therapy for two therapy for two.

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.839
<v Speaker 4>But I mean the current or last season of couple

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:03.319
<v Speaker 4>Therapy I watched. There was of course a threatle. So

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 4>we're getting out of couples already. Uh love therapy and threaple.

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 5>I mean, god, if you're in a threuttle people who

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 5>are Polly, I really admire them because you have to

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 5>have such like good communication skills and also good organizational skills.

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:21.280
<v Speaker 4>Oh, it seems like my nightmare. It's so I couldn't

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 4>do it.

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 2>You gotta keep there's so much to keep track of.

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I really admire it.

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 4>I mean good, Yeah, I'm like, go do whatever you

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 4>need to do. But for me, it's too much thinking,

0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 4>too many logistics, it would be a lot. Yeah. But

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 4>and of course with this threatle I'm speaking of, obviously

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 4>things were falling apart.

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:38.319
<v Speaker 2>Well it sounds yeah, they were on the show that

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:39.759
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't going well.

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:41.920
<v Speaker 4>And I kind of blame all three of them. Interesting,

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 4>I can't remember if they solve their problems or not,

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 4>but yeah, I do love the therapists or not. She's incredible.

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 4>I recommend this thing to anybody. It's so great.

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 2>I thought this was Oh, No, you know.

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:58.399
<v Speaker 4>Another couples Therapy of Esta Parrell Where should we Be Going? Oh? Now,

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 4>that's that's another great podcast a long time.

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm confusing them with.

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 4>And what's that one called?

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:05.319
<v Speaker 2>Where Where should We Begin?

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:07.880
<v Speaker 4>Yes, when I had a long commute years ago, I

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 4>would listen to that. Loved it even if none of

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 4>the things had anything to do with my relationship, Like

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 4>just it's a peekin Oh.

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 2>I love hearing other people's and.

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 4>She's so intelligent and insightful. It's a great It seems

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:25.879
<v Speaker 4>like a big burgeoning industry for if you have any

0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 4>interest in starting a couple's therapy anything, Apparently you can do.

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 2>It between podcasts.

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:33.319
<v Speaker 5>I've been in a monogamous relationship for so long. The

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 5>reason I'm up on I think what's going on with

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:42.320
<v Speaker 5>new sex things is because between that and then Dan Saba,

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 5>I mean Savage Love Cast is the reason, right, I

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:46.399
<v Speaker 5>know about so many things.

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 4>Probably House of the Dragon and House of a Dragon.

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 4>Probably it's another. Yeah, I feel like maybe we just

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 4>need a couple's therapy video game and we'll be sealed.

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:57.799
<v Speaker 2>With someone will make a card.

0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 5>So so this is more of I think you call

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 5>it well, it's not an RPG game because you're not

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:04.359
<v Speaker 5>really playing a role playing game, but it's very much

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 5>a board.

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:08.400
<v Speaker 4>Game, right, and you're taking on different characteristics. It's like

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 4>this side effects game feels like a very light mental

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:15.839
<v Speaker 4>illness version of D and D from what I can.

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 2>And that's where the RPG and this and this cruise

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 2>that I was on was a big RPG.

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 4>D and D. Have you ever played D and D? No?

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 2>I actually really want to.

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 4>I would love to, but it seems hard to get to.

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:30.399
<v Speaker 5>You just need to find a group of people who

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:33.759
<v Speaker 5>are who can show you. It's something I've always meant

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:35.719
<v Speaker 5>to do, but it's not important enough, especially in a

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 5>four year old for me to be like, I got

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 5>to find a D and D game tonight, right, And

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 5>they also have to be patient.

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 2>They'd have to teach me.

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 4>I hear.

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:43.399
<v Speaker 2>It's really fun.

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:46.759
<v Speaker 4>People love it. I mean they're so passionate about it.

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, you have to find a group that's going

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 4>to be patient with a newcomer.

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:52.799
<v Speaker 5>And that's because I know people who do D and D.

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:54.919
<v Speaker 5>But I just feel like, do they really want me there?

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:58.480
<v Speaker 5>Being like, so the wizard, what powers does the wizard

0:43:58.560 --> 0:43:58.799
<v Speaker 5>to have?

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Again, and is that from a mage, Like no one

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 2>wants that.

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 4>See, I would go in and I would be too

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 4>afraid to even ask anything. I wouldn't want to bother anybody,

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:09.879
<v Speaker 4>so I would just be bored and slowing everyone down

0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 4>because I wouldn't have any idea what was going on. Yeah,

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 4>so I'm probably poisoned for D and D. Maybe it's

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:15.440
<v Speaker 4>not for my life. I don't know.

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe.

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think we should play a game now. Oh yeah,

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna play a game called Gift Master. I need

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 4>a number between one and ten from you.

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Seven.

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I have to do some like calculating to get

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.720
<v Speaker 4>our game pieces right now. So you can recommend, promote,

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:32.399
<v Speaker 4>do whatever you want. I'll be right back.

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 5>I was an out of the Netflix specials coming out

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:39.240
<v Speaker 5>in the fall. That's what I can recommend and promote.

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 5>What else can I promote? Just being kind to each other.

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 5>That's like the kind of promotion that I'd like. The

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 5>world is so full of anger. Be kind to each other,

0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 5>get sleep you know. Oh, by the way, I mean

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 5>something that's changed my life. I don't even know if

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:56.279
<v Speaker 5>you're going to air this, but I recently got this

0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 5>mattress cooling pad called Koolie. That has changed the way

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 5>I sleep because now I can sleep with my weighted blanket,

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 5>but the mattress is cool, so the blanket doesn't heat

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:08.440
<v Speaker 5>me up. And the sleep that I have been having

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 5>is just a plus.

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I had some.

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 5>Really good, vivid, a little bit fucked up dreams last night,

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 5>but I just think that, like it was stuff that

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 5>my mind needed to work through.

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:18.960
<v Speaker 4>Incredible. It's called Cooley.

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Cooley Coo l I.

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:22.839
<v Speaker 5>But there are a lot of different types of these

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:24.839
<v Speaker 5>cooling mattress pads right.

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 2>That you hook up to the wall. This this version uses.

0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 5>It's cooling water, like you have like a machine that

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:33.319
<v Speaker 5>pumps cooling water through this mattress pad.

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:34.839
<v Speaker 2>It's it's a game change.

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:38.720
<v Speaker 4>Well that sounds lovely. Kind of a modern waterbed. Yes,

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 4>interesting everything we were promised with the waterbed without the

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:43.920
<v Speaker 4>back ache.

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 5>You would think that the waterbed would work because we

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 5>all came from water. But it's terrible, fear back awful.

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 4>It's wild that those ever took off, like anyone ever

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 4>laid down on one of those and thought, okay, let's

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:55.920
<v Speaker 4>sell this.

0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 2>It's like they were fine. My cousin had one.

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 4>My grandma had one was of course, it's fun to

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 4>like roll around on for a minute. And the idea

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 4>of sleeping twelve hour twelve hours, I seven to eight hours.

0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 4>It's a peek into my life. Seems wild to me. Yeah,

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 4>but good for them for trying. This is how we

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:20.439
<v Speaker 4>play gift Master. I'm gonna name three gifts, three things

0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 4>you can give away, and then i'm gonna name three celebrities.

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:24.960
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna tell me which celebrity you would give which

0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:27.479
<v Speaker 4>gift and why does that make perfect sense?

0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:28.399
<v Speaker 2>It makes perfect sense.

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 4>Okay, these are the gifts you'll be giving away. Number

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 4>one a portable grill. That's a convenient thing to have.

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:36.760
<v Speaker 4>Number two is a strappy pair of sandals, very nice.

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:39.840
<v Speaker 4>Number three is the Okerina of Time. Are you familiar

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:43.440
<v Speaker 4>with this? Oh, it's a device from the legend of Zelda.

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:45.319
<v Speaker 4>It's a little like whistle that you blow and then

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:46.399
<v Speaker 4>you can travel through time.

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh, the real arena of time.

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 4>You'll be receiving the real ok arena of time, and.

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:52.360
<v Speaker 2>I have to give it to someone.

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:54.439
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna be giving it to one of these three people. Okay,

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 4>so be very careful considering. Number one is Sean Hannity,

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:03.759
<v Speaker 4>number two, Goldie Hawn and number three do Alipa not

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 4>at least loves do Alipa by the way, so be

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:07.400
<v Speaker 4>very careful.

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 5>I just feel like, well, look, I just think Sean

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 5>Hannedy's gonna want a portable grill as much as maybe

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:19.719
<v Speaker 5>Goldie and Duo want that to. I just feel like

0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 5>that's a layup gift for Sean Hannity.

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 4>Right, It's a great gift, and it's something that tells

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:26.919
<v Speaker 4>the person you didn't think about the gift. You didn't

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 4>really consider them. You thought, yeah, sure he'll take this.

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Does it?

0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 4>How do you? How does it work?

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:33.879
<v Speaker 2>How does a portable grill work?

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:38.279
<v Speaker 4>I would assume can either be charcoal based with the

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:40.400
<v Speaker 4>charcoal cookies or whatever those are called. But is that

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 4>it charcoal briquette? You know it's perfect.

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 5>Because Sean Hannity probably doesn't believe in climate change, right.

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 4>He's probably going to like attach a diesel engine.

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:51.840
<v Speaker 5>He'll love it because he can pollute anywhere he goes, right, Okay,

0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:55.839
<v Speaker 5>strappy sandals, I'm gonna givet to du Aalipa. I want

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:59.319
<v Speaker 5>to see Goldie han travel through time. I just think

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 5>it would be delay. I think she would use it

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:06.800
<v Speaker 5>for mostly good. I think her like wandering around in

0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 5>ancient Egypt is really funny, Like I would give it

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:12.360
<v Speaker 5>to her, but like you have to take pictures.

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 4>She would definitely take pictures. She's absolutely the person here

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:18.000
<v Speaker 4>who should be traveling through time and playing a little

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 4>song before she does it. She's timeless everyone. She's been

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:26.160
<v Speaker 4>around long enough that we can trust her no offense

0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:27.799
<v Speaker 4>to do it. But you haven't been around long enough,

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 4>you might still make some big mistakes. But with Goldie,

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 4>we know she has a great track record.

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 5>Look, she she made a great daughter. She clearly was

0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 5>a good mom. Kate Hudson seems like a good person.

0:48:37.360 --> 0:48:40.359
<v Speaker 5>Part of this kind of forgetting anything.

0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:43.480
<v Speaker 4>She could take Kurt on occasion. Yeah, they're both.

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 5>You know, there's nothing super cancellable about the Hans.

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 2>The russels of the Hudson's right seem pretty stand up.

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:52.839
<v Speaker 4>Unless you hate a good time. I feel like they

0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 4>have fun and they kind of do whatever they want.

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:57.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we send Goldie Han back to see

0:48:57.800 --> 0:48:58.279
<v Speaker 2>what she does.

0:48:58.400 --> 0:48:59.400
<v Speaker 4>I want to see that happen.

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I also don't think I think she's more of an observer.

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:01.960
<v Speaker 4>Ver.

0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:04.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't think she's going to really mess with things.

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:06.960
<v Speaker 4>No, she's like the fun mom that's hanging out. She

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 4>shows up and takes a look.

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:10.400
<v Speaker 5>She's just gonna be there to like have the experience.

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:12.720
<v Speaker 5>She's not like she.

0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Just wants to meet the FitzGeralds. She's not going to

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 2>like kill one of.

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 4>Them, right, She's very much Do you mind if we

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:22.240
<v Speaker 4>get a picture? Yes, rather than oh, look at that butterfly.

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 4>My god, that's the spirit of Goldie Han.

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:28.240
<v Speaker 5>If we find out when we get off this podcast

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:31.440
<v Speaker 5>that Goldie Han died, I might that might be the

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:33.480
<v Speaker 5>thing that pushes me to believe in God truly.

0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 4>We're we will get in a car and head to Kentucky. Oh,

0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:41.480
<v Speaker 4>this podcast has a kind of a track record of

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:45.640
<v Speaker 4>telling the future. So let's we're praying for Goldie.

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Wow. The other things that's predicted, I'm sure.

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:53.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the most famous thing was, prior to the podcast,

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:57.239
<v Speaker 4>we had recorded sixteen episodes. I posted to Instagram like

0:49:57.600 --> 0:50:02.000
<v Speaker 4>the announcement, and the announcement said this is February twenty twenty.

0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 4>It said it premieres be ready March twelfth, when all

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:06.880
<v Speaker 4>hell breaks.

0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Least, Oh my god, that's fantastic.

0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 4>Look what happened, so it was you. Our love is

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 4>with the han Russell family and we wish them nothing

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 4>but good health. And this is before anything bad happened,

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 4>so we can talk. And Goldie, we hope you're still

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 4>alive or a butterfly, I agree excellently played DOA's in

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:32.240
<v Speaker 4>her Strappi's Sean's you know, destroying the planet as he will.

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 4>And Goldie is going to back in time to save us.

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:38.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeap or just hang or just hang try out a

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 4>new dip. She wants to, you know, eat something new.

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:44.759
<v Speaker 4>This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called

0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:46.799
<v Speaker 4>I Said no emails, people write into I Said no

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:50.200
<v Speaker 4>gifts at gmail dot com. My listeners are begging for

0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 4>answers at all times. It's really pathetic, but I try

0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:55.719
<v Speaker 4>to help. Will you help me answer a questions? I'd

0:50:55.760 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 4>love to all right this one just as High Bridger,

0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:00.960
<v Speaker 4>even without a comma, which is kind of a crazy

0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 4>way to get into an email. But that's fine. I

0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:05.960
<v Speaker 4>need to get a gift for my brother's twenty sixth birthday.

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:09.320
<v Speaker 4>But I am the world's worst gift giver. I've intentionally

0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:12.480
<v Speaker 4>given blenders as gifts without any mention of wanting a blender.

0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:15.799
<v Speaker 4>Kind of bad. Anyway, My brother is impossible to give

0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:18.440
<v Speaker 4>gifts to. He doesn't like most things, prefers to not

0:51:18.520 --> 0:51:23.720
<v Speaker 4>partake in activities, and doesn't have any hobbies. However, however,

0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:27.400
<v Speaker 4>he loves cars, cats, has one sports beer as long

0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:32.040
<v Speaker 4>as it's not craft Lebron James, and mostly himself. He's

0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:36.239
<v Speaker 4>also super dramatic and is unwilling to ever try anything new.

0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:39.000
<v Speaker 4>I have faith in your gift giving expertise. Thanks, and

0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 4>that's from Cat and Cincinnati.

0:51:41.160 --> 0:51:41.879
<v Speaker 2>Well here's the thing.

0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:45.000
<v Speaker 5>The cat is a layup because if you give a gift,

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:47.399
<v Speaker 5>it doesn't have to he doesn't have to try something new.

0:51:47.400 --> 0:51:48.000
<v Speaker 2>It's for the cat.

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't that the best possible?

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<v Speaker 2>The cat, cat toy, cat tower, a cat tower at condo.

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly, something maybe a new type of litter. Remember when

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<v Speaker 5>Dragon writer back promoting.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was pretty kitty, which is colorful cat litter.

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<v Speaker 2>Get him a pack of that. If he doesn't want it,

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<v Speaker 2>you can throw it out.

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<v Speaker 4>A new expensive litter box. That's what everyone dreams of,

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<v Speaker 4>and they won't.

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<v Speaker 2>Buy new things.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh that's why I'm saying, he just like he might

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<v Speaker 5>be reticent to be there's a couple people in my

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<v Speaker 5>life like this where they're like, oh, no, I liked

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<v Speaker 5>my old litter box, Like, what's something small?

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<v Speaker 4>Imagine a life where you're not adventurous enough to try

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<v Speaker 4>a new litter box.

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<v Speaker 2>I can. There are a couple people, yep.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I feel like cat here comes in saying

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<v Speaker 4>he's not interested in anything, and then she names like

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<v Speaker 4>ten things that he likes. Cats, cars, Lebron James, Lebron,

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<v Speaker 4>Cragby beer, and himself. He's a narcissist, so like, get

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<v Speaker 4>him a photo shoot. Oh that's fun, a photo shoot

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<v Speaker 4>with this cat.

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say, a photohoot with Lebron James. Here's

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<v Speaker 5>here's what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a narciss His cat et seahand painted portrait of

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<v Speaker 2>him and.

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<v Speaker 4>His cat, Lebron James in the background.

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron is in the background giving a thumbs.

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<v Speaker 4>Giving a thumb. It's a perfect The fact that Kat

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<v Speaker 4>wrote into this podcast is ridiculous. She knew she didn't

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<v Speaker 4>need help. It was all right there in front of her.

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<v Speaker 4>She's the one that's attention seeking. She's obsessed with herself.

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<v Speaker 4>She wanted to hear her name on a podcast that's

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<v Speaker 4>all her brother. I'm on her brother's side, Kat, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>deleting your email.

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<v Speaker 2>On her brother's side.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I don't know if this is a side situation.

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<v Speaker 4>It is now, Okay, it is now. Cat has lost

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<v Speaker 4>this battle. Great, her brother wins. Hopefully he'll start listening

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<v Speaker 4>to the podcast. This is how I get new listeners,

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<v Speaker 4>one at a time, creating family drama, drawing in brothers.

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<v Speaker 4>We're always looking for new brothers to listen to the podcast. Kat,

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<v Speaker 4>don't write back in Oh, Rachel, incredible. I've got this

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<v Speaker 4>new gift that I'll be very careful to play with

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<v Speaker 4>particular groups of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Way with play at your own risk.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think then it's called side Effects, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think if you google it, you can buy the game.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gorgeous. It really is a beautiful work.

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<v Speaker 2>Brought it on.

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<v Speaker 5>Because I wanted to spread the word about this game.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that some people might really like this, some

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<v Speaker 5>people might not.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you don't see a game that looks this stunning,

0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:05.680
<v Speaker 4>that often gorgeous some real thoughts. It looks very but

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<v Speaker 4>it's not right exactly. And I'm excited to play it

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<v Speaker 4>and continue to deal with my own mental health. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 4>so much for being here. Fun listener, The podcast is

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<v Speaker 4>coming to a close. It's over, so you now have

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<v Speaker 4>to figure out something else to do with your day.

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<v Speaker 4>And I feel like you're going to do it. You're

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<v Speaker 4>stronger than me. You can do it. I love you, goodbye,

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<v Speaker 4>I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's

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<v Speaker 4>produced by our dear friend Analise Neilson, and it's beautifully

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<v Speaker 4>mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without

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<v Speaker 4>our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>could only come from miracle worker Amy Man. You must

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<v Speaker 4>follow the show on Instagram. At I said no Gifts,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you

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<v Speaker 4>get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting.

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<v Speaker 4>And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts.

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<v Speaker 1>But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're a guess to my home.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guess,

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<v Speaker 3>You're own presences presents enough that I already had too

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<v Speaker 3>much stuff, So how did you dare to surbey me