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Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 2: But you're a guest to my home.

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Speaker 3: You gotta come to me empty And I said, no, guests,

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Speaker 3: your own presence is presence enough.

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Speaker 1: I already had too much stuff, So how do you

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Speaker 4: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm bridgerd Wineger. We're

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Speaker 4: in the backyard. The temperature is tolerable. I'm feeling stronger

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Speaker 4: for the first time in my life, the Hyjenna said,

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of riding that high. I've integrated cottage cheese

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Speaker 4: into my breakfast. That's going well. So things are I'm sailing.

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Speaker 4: Let's get into the podcast. I love today's guest. It's

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Speaker 4: Rachel Bloom. Rachel welcomed to. I said, no gifts.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, what a delight that you didn't do.

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Speaker 5: I didn't have to sit through like a mini bio

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Speaker 5: myself I can't do, which just feels like it just

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Speaker 5: feels like you're getting a lifetime achievement award or like

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Speaker 5: or it's almost like when you when you're in your hometown.

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Speaker 5: My hometown's thirty minutes away, but you're at the supermarket.

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Speaker 2: Well, what have you done lately?

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Speaker 5: It's like, I don't want to tell you. I don't

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Speaker 5: want to be judged.

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Speaker 4: There's no like reasonable response to that sort of thing. Whenever,

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Speaker 4: like you're on a podcast or whatever and somebody goes

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Speaker 4: through all your cuds, what are you supposed to say? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you call me, thanks, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Plau's nice, great.

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Speaker 4: And I just hope that the listener. I feel like

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Speaker 4: our listener is aware enough that they see a name

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Speaker 2: There exists. You can google people very very easily.

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Speaker 4: We don't need a resume. This isn't a job interview.

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Speaker 4: You're wonderful, we'll have a nice time. And then if

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Speaker 4: the listener's curious if they've been living under a rock,

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Speaker 5: I would say, when it comes to me, if they've

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Speaker 5: percent of the world's population, I'm really not that famous.

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Speaker 4: Well, no one's famous anymore, definitely, no one.

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Speaker 5: There's a list you know, every when you're making a

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 5: You know, every actor has a number next to their

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Speaker 4: Of course I could probably name all of them. They're like,

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Speaker 4: we all know who those people are.

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Speaker 5: Everyone House the Dragon currently Bridgerton, Yes, plus then you

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Speaker 5: Of the loop on who really matters. But if I

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Speaker 5: Isn't that really weird that Glenn Powell is probably higher

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Speaker 4: Oh. Interesting, Glenn must be furious Glenn Close.

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Speaker 4: He's probably furious that he took her spot.

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Speaker 5: Remember when Olivia Coleman won the Oscar and she apologized

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Speaker 4: Now there's somebody who's really earned her her place.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Olivia Coleman and she seems to have no

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Speaker 4: I really adore her. And then going back to Bridgerton

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Speaker 5: Yes, when it's just one very dramatic dragon who makes

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Speaker 5: Adult Swim thirteen years ago, it's four people in bear costumes.

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Speaker 5: How's is the Dragon? Because I watched every episode of

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Speaker 4: Of course in my life.

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Speaker 5: What is the argument for psychiatry? Tell me about psychiatry

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Speaker 4: Believe it or not. It's based on a lot of

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Speaker 5: It was many many cubits. It was this This museum

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Speaker 4: Right, right, I mean I think that they there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of cherry picking effects at the psychiatry museum, where

446
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Speaker 4: it's like you can pick that somebody wants odeed on

447
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Speaker 4: some sort of medication and then you can blow that

448
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 4: out to it's killed humanity.

449
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Speaker 2: Well, has psychiatry always been great?

450
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Speaker 4: No, I mean it's it's a science. It's always evolvelways evolving.

451
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,959
Speaker 4: People do it. So there are a lot of problems.

452
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 4: Anything that a person's involved, there's going to be a problem,

453
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Speaker 4: but it's also done. You're talking to somebody that's on

454
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Speaker 4: four hundred and fifty milligrams of wellbuturned right now, Oh wow.

455
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Speaker 5: I'm always interested in because I'm on twenty milligrams of prozac.

456
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Speaker 4: Okay.

457
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Speaker 2: My life can be divided.

458
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Speaker 5: By before prozac and after prozac, because after prozac it

459
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Speaker 5: was such a subtle change at first, and I realized

460
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Speaker 5: and it wasn't until I realized, oh, I was miserable

461
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Speaker 5: a lot of the time.

462
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Speaker 2: And now I'm not.

463
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Speaker 5: But the milligram stuff is interesting because I'm on twenty

464
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Speaker 5: of prozac.

465
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Speaker 4: FOI the dwarfs your you know.

466
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Speaker 5: But I don't think like, I don't think you can

467
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Speaker 5: be on four hundred and fifty milligrams of prozacs.

468
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Speaker 4: So I think it's just a different right. It's like

469
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Speaker 4: salt and sugar or whatever. You can have so much

470
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Speaker 4: of one or the other. But four hundred and fifty

471
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Speaker 4: I think is like probably moderate to high. I think

472
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Speaker 4: you can go higher. I started at one fifty and

473
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Speaker 4: then they, you know, ease it up until you like

474
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Speaker 4: you're feeling all right. Yeah, and it's I mean, it's

475
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Speaker 4: of course I'm still miserable a long time, I think,

476
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 4: just by nature, sure, But I no longer am mean

477
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 4: to myself as often good, which feels incredible. Now when

478
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 4: I'm mad at somebody, don't blame myself. I yell at

479
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Speaker 4: them alone. You know, I'm driving around and I'm saying

480
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 4: bad things to that person rather than to myself.

481
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Speaker 2: I'm still working on that, so maybe I need to

482
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Speaker 2: up my pros.

483
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Speaker 4: You might want to look into it, But first kind,

484
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 4: there's a museum I want you to go to. But

485
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Speaker 4: this creation is thing. I'm so curious.

486
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Speaker 2: I wish it's all to me.

487
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Speaker 5: It's all and I'm biased because I'm an atheist, so

488
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Speaker 5: a fundamental to me, fundamentalism is fundamentalism. It's all cherry

489
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Speaker 5: picking things. But the Creation it was a very nice museum.

490
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Speaker 4: How big was the museum? Was it like compared to

491
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Speaker 4: a museum here in La it was a lackma size.

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Speaker 5: I'd say, like the equivalent of a floor and a

493
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Speaker 5: half of the California Science Center.

494
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Speaker 4: Okay, now, never being to that museum, just imagine taken

495
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Speaker 4: up on Earth.

496
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Speaker 2: It's it.

497
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Speaker 5: There were a couple of really like big like there

498
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Speaker 5: was the nose arc thing. There was the Adam and

499
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Speaker 5: Eve writing dinosaurs, very fun where you need these big rooms, right,

500
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Speaker 5: And then there was a room I have photos still

501
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Speaker 5: there was a room where it was like, oh it

502
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 5: was It was a single room that was like a

503
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Speaker 5: bad neighborhood in the city and it was like police

504
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Speaker 5: sirens and graffiti and then photos of what leads to

505
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Speaker 5: society's decline, which is a dad looking at internet porn,

506
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Speaker 5: and then a woman giving birth which is evidence of

507
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Speaker 5: our punishment.

508
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Speaker 2: And then there was one worse thing. Yeah, I'm like

509
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Speaker 2: getting it was it was really interesting.

510
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Speaker 4: What dinosaurs were Adam and Eve writing.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I just kind of want to put on

512
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Speaker 5: podcast and see if I have let's see.

513
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Speaker 2: I feel like you see if I can find them

514
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Speaker 2: from twenty twelve.

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Speaker 4: I always want to say brontosaurus, but I know that

516
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Speaker 4: we've recently changed the word. It's no longer called a

517
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Speaker 4: brontosaurus for some reason. Hot at least, do you have.

518
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Speaker 2: Any idea with the brachiosaurus.

519
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 4: Is it now called a brachiosaurus?

520
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Speaker 2: It says an animated triceratops.

521
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,719
Speaker 4: Oh, I like this, complete with saddle, blanket and saddle,

522
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Speaker 4: is ridden by Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.

523
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Speaker 4: This is incredible. I mean I may not believe it,

524
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Speaker 4: but I'm in support.

525
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Speaker 5: Hold on scrolling past my wedding photos because this.

526
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Speaker 4: Is years before those are also on a triceratops.

527
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Speaker 5: Actually, our katuba, which is like you know, the Jewish

528
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Speaker 5: marriage agreement. Our friend handmade Arkatuba and it contains dinosaurs.

529
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Speaker 4: Amazing because he was like, what is.

530
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Speaker 5: Important to you and we said stars, dinosaurs, New York

531
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Speaker 5: City and LA so it's like dinosaurs in New York City.

532
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Speaker 2: Griffith observatory. It's it's a.

533
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Speaker 4: Beautiful that's lovely.

534
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Speaker 5: Okay, hold on, okay, here we go here. Okay, so

535
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Speaker 5: here's the Creation Museum. So now we're now we're at

536
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Speaker 5: present thrilled.

537
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Speaker 2: So first the chili.

538
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 4: Oh, it looks like a great chili. It's got grated

539
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 4: cheese and tomatoes on top, which I support, and a

540
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Speaker 4: little bit of lettuce.

541
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Speaker 2: Yeah, my nails are horrible right now.

542
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 4: Sorry, Oh I thought you were gonna see your nails

543
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Speaker 4: in the picture. Okay, move on.

544
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Speaker 2: So this is the gift shop.

545
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Speaker 4: That's a I mean a beautiful that's more of a

546
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Speaker 4: Game of Throne style dinas or dragon gorgeous. That's a

547
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Speaker 4: house of a dragon.

548
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Speaker 2: That's the house of a dragon. So they are maybe conflating.

549
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Speaker 2: I think they might be because dragons are in the Bible,

550
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Speaker 2: all right.

551
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Speaker 4: The Fords probably shows up there.

552
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Speaker 2: So this is fun.

553
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Speaker 4: This is having fun with everything in the museum.

554
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Speaker 2: Instead of don't touch, it says what does it say?

555
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 4: No shall not touch? Exclamation point?

556
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Speaker 2: Please, very polite.

557
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Speaker 4: Okay, Now we have an actual skeleton. We have some

558
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Speaker 4: sort of is that a mastodon?

559
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Speaker 2: Mastodon?

560
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Speaker 4: Yes, with the giant tusks. Tusk I was gonna say, forks,

561
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Speaker 4: that's not a Okay, so here's here's Eve. Now we've

562
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Speaker 4: got a dino. Oh that's Eve. I think this is

563
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Speaker 4: supposed to be looking kind of busted.

564
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Speaker 2: But she's full, she's fully dressed.

565
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Speaker 4: Okay, I just got a apples sack cloth on.

566
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's Eve with a little dinosaur.

567
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Speaker 4: Eve is not you know, you know when you think

568
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Speaker 4: of Eve, you think of kind of a vibrant, fun

569
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Speaker 4: person wearing leaves. This is somebody who just crawled out

570
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Speaker 4: from under a car. And then there's a dinosaur and

571
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Speaker 4: she's smiling.

572
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Speaker 5: Like she's like but she's not freaked out that there

573
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Speaker 5: are dinosaurs next to her. She's just like pleasantly surprised.

574
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Speaker 4: Okay.

575
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 5: Now a Tara Dak called the Dragon Hall bookstore. So

576
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Speaker 5: they're conflating throughout this museum dinosaurs and dreams.

577
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Speaker 4: The word dinosaur.

578
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Speaker 5: Dragons are in the Bible, so I think what they're

579
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Speaker 5: saying is they're the same thing.

580
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Speaker 4: Right, I think, right. And then we're seeing so this

581
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Speaker 4: is a.

582
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Speaker 5: Parody of the movie Men in Black, but it's called

583
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Speaker 5: Men in White. I don't know the context of this.

584
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Speaker 5: It's a looks like Joey FATONI I don't think it is.

585
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Speaker 4: And when you're in Kentucky it's calling something men in white,

586
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 4: you're fully aware that there's another group that wears all white.

587
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 4: It's come on, that's true.

588
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Speaker 5: This is a hip take on the Seven Seas in

589
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 5: God's eternal planets. Okay, creation, corruption, catastrophe, confusion, christ cross.

590
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 4: Consummation, consummation, and that's science, the classic seven seeds, seven sees.

591
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 5: So these are some pretty shitty looking human dioramas. It's

592
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Speaker 5: a mom saying to a kid, come on, let me

593
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Speaker 5: show you the rest, and the kids saying I never

594
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Speaker 5: heard this before in school, but.

595
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Speaker 4: We know he's homeschooled. He's definitely.

596
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Speaker 2: That's Adam. Adam a lot hotter.

597
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Speaker 4: She's just way better looking. I'm sorry, but the scales

598
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 4: are not balanced here.

599
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: Someone clearly like making out.

600
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Speaker 4: Of it, of course more than artist at that museum,

601
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Speaker 4: and he has a wife.

602
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Speaker 5: But also I want to point out there were penguins

603
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 5: in the Garden of Envegas because oh no, I'm sorry,

604
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Speaker 5: that's Eve.

605
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Speaker 4: I don't know who that was.

606
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Speaker 2: I don't know who. Eve's hot.

607
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Speaker 4: Eve's got great hair, looks like she just straightened her hair.

608
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 4: She's got a blowout or something.

609
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, she looks over there.

610
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 4: God, this is too sexy.

611
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's now they're now they've gone.

612
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 4: Too far in the other direction. There's this poor woman

613
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Speaker 4: in the sack cloth. Yeah, that doesn't know this is

614
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 4: happening behind her. They're both shirtless. Adam is ripped great

615
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 4: beard and Eve is. I mean, this is erotic, filthy.

616
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 5: There's an angry wolf. I don't know why. I mean, again, wild,

617
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 5: I could go. I had a great time, as you can.

618
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Speaker 5: Here's no building the arc.

619
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Speaker 4: I think, oh, okay, having a nice time in the arc.

620
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 4: It looks like he's wearing a backwards cap, but.

621
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Speaker 2: That's he looks pretty hip hop.

622
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 4: I mean, what a trip that was.

623
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Speaker 2: I'm glad to show you what that was.

624
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I would love to keep talking about the

625
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 4: Creationist Museum, but there is something else we should discuss. Yeah,

626
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 4: but I don't necessarily want to talk about And didn't

627
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 4: you know, wasn't planning to today. I thought, you know,

628
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 4: Rachel will come over, we'll have a great time. We

629
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 4: discussed beforehand that we would be talking about all kinds

630
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 4: of things. I can't even remember the things we agreed to. Psychiatry,

631
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 4: the dangers of psychia, tree, et cetera. So I was

632
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 4: a little surprised when you came into my backyard holding

633
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 4: what is clearly a gift.

634
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 5: Okay, look, I know you said no gifts, but I

635
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 5: had a poster of Vincent van Goh lying around my

636
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 5: house and I was like, what am I going to

637
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 5: use this for?

638
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: Oh?

639
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 5: It would make great wrapping paper. And then I needed

640
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 5: something to put in the wrapping paper. Right, So that's

641
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 5: really what it is is. I needed to get rid

642
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 5: of this Vincent van Go poster. Okay, but I didn't

643
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 5: want to waste paper, and I was like, I'm about

644
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 5: to see someone. He can take my extra paper. Oh,

645
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 5: I guess I should give him something in the paper.

646
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: Right, perfectly reasonable, I mean that makes perfect sense. Yeah,

647
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 4: that's as much. That makes as much sense as everything

648
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 4: in the creation.

649
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 5: Actually, weirdly, this gift is going to be I didn't

650
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 5: even plan this. This gift is going to be very

651
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 5: weirdly relevant to what we've just been discussed.

652
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: It's the Bible.

653
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: It's the Bible, because I don't think you've heard the word.

654
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to open up it's very thick paper.

655
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 5: Because again it's a poster from the We went to

656
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 5: the Immersive Vincent Bango Experience and we got a free poster.

657
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 5: By the way, go there on mushrooms and not with

658
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 5: a child. That's my hot tip, because I did the opposite.

659
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: Doesn't sound like a place for a baby.

660
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: But two, she was two at the time.

661
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 4: She didn't care, right, I mean, I don't blame her,

662
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 4: and I mean they give you a nice poster. Yeah,

663
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 4: perfect wrapping paper. I love a thick wrapping paper, very thick. Party.

664
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Speaker 4: It is a poster and it's now being destroyed. I'm

665
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 4: so sorry, but it's I kept it mostly in peace.

666
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 4: What is this I actually don't even know. It's like

667
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: a black box with a skull and some colors on it.

668
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: I mean colorfull circle.

669
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: So look at the side.

670
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 4: This is side effects, okay, te minutes to learn.

671
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: Do you want the full story of this?

672
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 4: Of course, I need to know what's happening here.

673
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 5: A couple of years ago, I'm sorry, a couple months ago,

674
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 5: I performed on this thing called the Joco Cruise.

675
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: She's a really fun comedy music. It's almost like like

676
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: a like.

677
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 5: It's almost like it's not comic con, because comic Con

678
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 5: is much more about like film and TV, but like

679
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 5: it's it's like a going to like dragon combat. It's

680
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 5: on a cruise, sh right, met some lovely people. Hm

681
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 5: was my first cruise. Man comes up to me and says,

682
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 5: I have made this game. This is about Uh, this

683
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 5: is a game that is fun to play, but also

684
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 5: it's informational about mental illness and medication. Wonderful and so

685
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 5: side this is called side Effects. It is labeled for

686
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 5: two to eight players, three minutes to learn, ten to

687
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 5: thirty minutes to play, ages fourteen and up, and the

688
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 5: directions say each player is assigned a series of mental disorders.

689
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 5: Draw cards from the deck and place drugs over your

690
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 5: disorders to treat them, but beware each drug contains side

691
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 5: effects that leave you open to receiving more disorders from

692
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 5: other players.

693
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: Oh this feels like some sensitive territory to be playing

694
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: a game with.

695
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 5: It's yes, but but he's coming at it from a

696
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 5: mental health education space. He gave this to me, and

697
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 5: I can't play this with my kid because she's not

698
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 5: fourteen yet.

699
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 4: You'll come back here in twelve years.

700
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: Actually, hey, I want my game.

701
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 4: So I just thought, what a perfect Have you ever

702
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 4: played this before?

703
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: I have not played it yet.

704
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 4: Now this is true, I mean, I mean I would

705
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 4: assume as somebody that put this much effort. It's a

706
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 4: beautiful looking box course of game that they must have

707
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 4: some knowledge of mental illness and hopefully are treading lightly.

708
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 5: I think this person had had the person to create

709
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 5: a night I should know his name.

710
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: He did a lot of.

711
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 5: Oh you can order says want more side effects, order

712
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 5: the booster shot, which is the expansion pack.

713
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: It's like, really cool. I think it's just a game

714
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,239
Speaker 2: that teaches you about Oh yeah, it's easy to set up.

715
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 5: I haven't like right, separate all the disorders from the deck,

716
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 5: shuffle them, and deal out four per player, face up

717
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 5: in front of them.

718
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: This is referred to as their psyche.

719
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 4: Wow. No, yeah, I'm looking at the back and it

720
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 4: says like one of the cards says you're having an episode,

721
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 4: so they're obviously having some. I imagine that whoever did

722
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 4: this also has some level of mental illness.

723
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 5: That is yes, yes, this is very much a game

724
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 5: from the inside out of mental of mental illness and

725
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 5: not looking inside outside and to like make fun of it.

726
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 4: Unless it's as scientologist. This is a scientolic. I don't

727
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 4: think he's a scientologist, right, every answer is don't seek

728
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 4: a psychiatrist.

729
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 5: Oh, this is so interesting. So there's a therapy card.

730
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 5: You can use a therapy card. I want to read

731
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 5: a highlight of the rules, which is the only card

732
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 5: that therapy does not work on is tremors. It's also

733
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 5: worth mentioning there's no drug for anorexia. You must treat

734
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 5: this with therapy. The only downside of treating a disorder

735
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 5: with therapy is that the disorder is no longer in

736
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 5: your psyche, and that means that you could, in theory,

737
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 5: get it again.

738
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 4: I have so many complicated feelings about this. Yeah, who

739
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 4: is supposed to be playing this? This feels so triggering.

740
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 5: Us And if you're fourteen and up, I think it's

741
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 5: meant to be an educational game.

742
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: But also, I mean, this is my exact kind of game.

743
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: I love Yes early into this.

744
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 4: And I feel like it probably is ultimately a healthy

745
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: thing where it's like, let's just we all have some

746
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 4: mental illness. Let's talk about it, rather than act like

747
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 4: it's something we should keep in a closet hidden from people.

748
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 5: I think, So, you know, I'm gonna ask my therapy tomorrow.

749
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 5: I'm going to ask her what she thinks of this game.

750
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would like, Yeah, you should like it. I

751
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 4: feel like this feels like it should ultimately be healthy.

752
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure if you're having severe issues with

753
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 4: mental illness, you probably want to work through some of

754
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 4: that before getting into the gaming sector. Yeah, playing it

755
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: with friends, you know. But I feel like, for example,

756
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 4: I don't want to speak to your journey, but I

757
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 4: feel like I have some level of control over my

758
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: mental illness. I could probably dip in so and so.

759
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 5: Could I right if I now, if I was in

760
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 5: the middle of I haven't had it in a couple

761
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 5: of years, but like, there will be moments where I

762
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 5: go into like an OCD intrusive thought spiral.

763
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: Right, I probably shouldn't play that.

764
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 5: One through the spiral, right, especially because the way to

765
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 5: get through my OCD in trusive thoughts spiral is to not.

766
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: Dwell on the thoughts.

767
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 5: Makes sense, but not in a thought spiral. I'm free

768
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 5: to play side effects.

769
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 4: Can I ask you, when you're not trying to dwell

770
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 4: on things, what you do, like what other things you

771
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 4: think about? How do you distract yourself from spiraling and.

772
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 5: You just think about it? You focus on anything else,

773
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 5: and if you have the thought, you don't. My My

774
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 5: big thing with anxiety and OCD, because I mean this

775
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 5: is I could talk about this for literally days. But

776
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 5: my whole thing is whenever I'm anxious or I have

777
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 5: and it verges into OCD and the two thoughts.

778
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 2: For me, the two.

779
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 5: Realms are slightly different, but for me it's I try

780
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 5: to solve it, uh huh. And what that is is,

781
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 5: I think it's my survival brain going, oh, you're you're

782
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 5: a cave woman. You're eve with the dinosaur've sensed there's

783
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 5: a lion in the bushes, right danger Will Robinson, You need.

784
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: To solve this. So I think about the thought. I

785
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 2: think about my anxiety. But what that does.

786
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 5: It doesn't solve anything that I Actually the only way

787
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 5: to really get clarity is to not dwell on it.

788
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 5: When I was first working on getting out of my

789
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 5: OCD thoughts, it felt like when I was teetering on it,

790
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 5: it felt like I was almost balancing on the side.

791
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: Of a pool, sure like a swimming pool.

792
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 5: And if I were to dip my toe in just

793
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 5: engage in a thought, I would follow.

794
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 4: Of course, I'm familiar with this feeling and this.

795
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 5: Is something that I am actively still working on and

796
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 5: probably will always.

797
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: Be working on.

798
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 4: Right, It's just part of you, but you at least

799
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 4: are kind of aware and can fight back.

800
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 5: Most of the time, now I have the tools to

801
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 5: understand what's going on, as opposed to one I was eleven,

802
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 5: thinking I'm doing this to myself.

803
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: I'm weird, right.

804
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I'm kind of similar. I feel like the

805
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 4: only time that I'm the time I'm weakest is when

806
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: i wake up in the middle of the night and

807
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,479
Speaker 4: I'm out of it. If I have one intrusive thought,

808
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 4: that thing blows up to beyond the universe. And if

809
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: I can just remember that I just woke up and

810
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 4: that I'm out of my mind because I'm basically half asleep,

811
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 4: i can get back to bed. But otherwise I'm up

812
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 4: the rest of the night.

813
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, But most of the.

814
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 4: Time I've been able to kind of I mean again,

815
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 4: back to being medicated, I think that helps.

816
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 5: Well, it's a tool, right like the medication. For me,

817
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 5: it was a supplement to the therapy, and that's suddenly

818
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 5: actually using these therapy techniques.

819
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 2: It helped.

820
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 4: It helped a lot, right where like before I was medicated,

821
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 4: and with therapy I would be able to recognize that

822
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 4: the thing was happening but was still pretty There was

823
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: still a large chance that I would fall prey to it.

824
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 4: But now I can recognize and I have something behind

825
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 4: me that can help me push back. Yes, I'm a

826
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 4: little stronger and can actually use the tool.

827
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 5: And I have to say, ever since, because I was

828
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 5: on ten milligrams of prozac for a while, I doubled

829
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 5: it last year.

830
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: What a good decision. I feel.

831
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 5: There's just a you know, this thing of like, oh, antidepressants.

832
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 5: Everyone's on happy pills. No, no, no, it's not a

833
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 5: happy it's not a happy pill.

834
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: It's a fortitude pill. That's what it feels like for me.

835
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 4: I mean, if anyone is an example of them not

836
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 4: being happy pills, it's me. Uh it's not a word

837
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 4: I would describe, but yeah, that's you're right on with that.

838
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: It's like coming around with a smile on my face.

839
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: That wredible. I think happy pills that's called ecstasy.

840
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: Yes, there are more illicit ways to get to happiness. Uh,

841
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 4: this is more of a you know, it's just it's medicine.

842
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just a mind it felt it feels like

843
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 5: it's my mind is at the gym, and look, something's

844
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 5: up with my serotonin.

845
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 4: Right. Was it hard to get to the point where

846
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 4: you wanted to actually, because for me, it was like

847
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: it took years before I could even decide I'm going

848
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 4: to try medication. And I think it was because depression

849
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 4: and all of this was like, it keeps you from

850
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 4: doing a lot of things.

851
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, something flipped in my head. I had a crisis.

852
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 5: It was basically my husband. So my husband, my ex fiance.

853
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 5: He proposed around the time we had just pitched crazy

854
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 5: ex girlfriend and it sold to showtime. And I had

855
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 5: had this crisis of like, these good things are mine

856
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 5: to lose, and it precipitated this kind of intrusive thought crisis,

857
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 5: the likes of which I hadn't really had since middle school.

858
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 5: And up until then I dealt I'd been dealing with

859
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 5: OCD thoughts and end up and down depression and anxiety,

860
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 5: and I've been in therapy to varying results. But I

861
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 5: had always told myself wrongfully that oh well, I'm mustling

862
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 5: through this without medicine. And then I remember it was

863
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 5: one night, it was like March twenty fourteen, something switch

864
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 5: and I was like I need help, I need help,

865
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 5: I need to And it was like a night before

866
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 5: I think I was shooting a commercial that never even aired,

867
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 5: and I couldn't sleep because I had like sleep anxiety,

868
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 5: and so I was like, I need to I need

869
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 5: to do something about this, and I wrote up an

870
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 5: entire history of my like mynt my mental health history,

871
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 5: and that night, maybe the next night, I went on

872
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 5: Psychology Today and I found a psychiatrist and he changed

873
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 5: my life.

874
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: And then he sadly passed away a couple of years ago.

875
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 4: Oh I'm sorry.

876
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

877
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 4: Of psychology today though, is another great tool.

878
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 5: It's a great tool because I was like, I want

879
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 5: a psychiatrist who deals with anxiety and sleep disorders. And

880
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 5: I slept out Santa Monica for you know, seven eight years,

881
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 5: and it was worth.

882
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 4: It, right, completely worth it. You get onto your little

883
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 4: plan and things start to roll along much easier.

884
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: Great.

885
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I recommend it to anybody. Medication is not for everybody,

886
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 4: but it's for a lot of people.

887
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 5: But if you need it, but if your brain has

888
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 5: a chemical thing going on, which my brain one hundred

889
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 5: percent does.

890
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 4: Take it, Yeah, take it like any other thing.

891
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: Just the life is chaos. Do what's going to make

892
00:39:58,800 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: you happy?

893
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 4: Truth. That's where I am at this point, where I'm like,

894
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 4: I said, are you minding your own business and it's

895
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 4: making you happy? Go for it?

896
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 2: Kind of where I'm at.

897
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 5: That's also where I'm at where I'm like, whatever, you

898
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 5: know what, like, as long as it's not fucking with

899
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 5: anyone else, you do you right, right and then and

900
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 5: then when it's fucks with someone else, then we have

901
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 5: a Yeah.

902
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 4: Then I get start to freak out.

903
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.

904
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 4: Do you watch Couple's Therapy?

905
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: I don't, but I need to.

906
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 4: I hear it's so good recently hooked, great, wonderful show.

907
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I've listened to the podcast now which now

908
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 4: I my friends Naomi Andy have a podcast called Couple's Therapy,

909
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 4: which is a comedy which I've been wonderful. But now

910
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 4: there's another. Okay, we've got a Unfortunately, this these two

911
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 4: words need to we need to think of a new

912
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 4: way to call couple's therapy.

913
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 5: I don't know what you would call it. It's just

914
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 5: called couple's therapy. I don't know what else you would.

915
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 4: Wow, it's a very hard thing to google.

916
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: You'd call it group. You'd call it group therapy, but

917
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: only two therapy for two therapy for two.

918
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 4: But I mean the current or last season of couple

919
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 4: Therapy I watched. There was of course a threatle. So

920
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 4: we're getting out of couples already. Uh love therapy and threaple.

921
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 5: I mean, god, if you're in a threuttle people who

922
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 5: are Polly, I really admire them because you have to

923
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 5: have such like good communication skills and also good organizational skills.

924
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 4: Oh, it seems like my nightmare. It's so I couldn't

925
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 4: do it.

926
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: You gotta keep there's so much to keep track of.

927
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: I really admire it.

928
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 4: I mean good, Yeah, I'm like, go do whatever you

929
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 4: need to do. But for me, it's too much thinking,

930
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 4: too many logistics, it would be a lot. Yeah. But

931
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 4: and of course with this threatle I'm speaking of, obviously

932
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 4: things were falling apart.

933
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: Well it sounds yeah, they were on the show that

934
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: it wasn't going well.

935
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 4: And I kind of blame all three of them. Interesting,

936
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 4: I can't remember if they solve their problems or not,

937
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 4: but yeah, I do love the therapists or not. She's incredible.

938
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 4: I recommend this thing to anybody. It's so great.

939
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 2: I thought this was Oh, No, you know.

940
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 4: Another couples Therapy of Esta Parrell Where should we Be Going? Oh? Now,

941
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 4: that's that's another great podcast a long time.

942
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: That's what I'm confusing them with.

943
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 4: And what's that one called?

944
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: Where Where should We Begin?

945
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 4: Yes, when I had a long commute years ago, I

946
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 4: would listen to that. Loved it even if none of

947
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 4: the things had anything to do with my relationship, Like

948
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: just it's a peekin Oh.

949
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: I love hearing other people's and.

950
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: She's so intelligent and insightful. It's a great It seems

951
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 4: like a big burgeoning industry for if you have any

952
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: interest in starting a couple's therapy anything, Apparently you can do.

953
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: It between podcasts.

954
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 5: I've been in a monogamous relationship for so long. The

955
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 5: reason I'm up on I think what's going on with

956
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 5: new sex things is because between that and then Dan Saba,

957
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 5: I mean Savage Love Cast is the reason, right, I

958
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 5: know about so many things.

959
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 4: Probably House of the Dragon and House of a Dragon.

960
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 4: Probably it's another. Yeah, I feel like maybe we just

961
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 4: need a couple's therapy video game and we'll be sealed.

962
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: With someone will make a card.

963
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 5: So so this is more of I think you call

964
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 5: it well, it's not an RPG game because you're not

965
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 5: really playing a role playing game, but it's very much

966
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 5: a board.

967
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 4: Game, right, and you're taking on different characteristics. It's like

968
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 4: this side effects game feels like a very light mental

969
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 4: illness version of D and D from what I can.

970
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: And that's where the RPG and this and this cruise

971
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: that I was on was a big RPG.

972
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 4: D and D. Have you ever played D and D? No?

973
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: I actually really want to.

974
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 4: I would love to, but it seems hard to get to.

975
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 5: You just need to find a group of people who

976
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 5: are who can show you. It's something I've always meant

977
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 5: to do, but it's not important enough, especially in a

978
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 5: four year old for me to be like, I got

979
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 5: to find a D and D game tonight, right, And

980
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 5: they also have to be patient.

981
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: They'd have to teach me.

982
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 4: I hear.

983
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 2: It's really fun.

984
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 4: People love it. I mean they're so passionate about it.

985
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, you have to find a group that's going

986
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 4: to be patient with a newcomer.

987
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 5: And that's because I know people who do D and D.

988
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 5: But I just feel like, do they really want me there?

989
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 5: Being like, so the wizard, what powers does the wizard

990
00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 5: to have?

991
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: Again, and is that from a mage, Like no one

992
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: wants that.

993
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 4: See, I would go in and I would be too

994
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: afraid to even ask anything. I wouldn't want to bother anybody,

995
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 4: so I would just be bored and slowing everyone down

996
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 4: because I wouldn't have any idea what was going on. Yeah,

997
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 4: so I'm probably poisoned for D and D. Maybe it's

998
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 4: not for my life. I don't know.

999
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: Maybe.

1000
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 4: Well, I think we should play a game now. Oh yeah,

1001
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 4: we're gonna play a game called Gift Master. I need

1002
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 4: a number between one and ten from you.

1003
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 2: Seven.

1004
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 4: Okay, I have to do some like calculating to get

1005
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 4: our game pieces right now. So you can recommend, promote,

1006
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 4: do whatever you want. I'll be right back.

1007
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 2: Okay.

1008
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 5: I was an out of the Netflix specials coming out

1009
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 5: in the fall. That's what I can recommend and promote.

1010
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 5: What else can I promote? Just being kind to each other.

1011
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 5: That's like the kind of promotion that I'd like. The

1012
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 5: world is so full of anger. Be kind to each other,

1013
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 5: get sleep you know. Oh, by the way, I mean

1014
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 5: something that's changed my life. I don't even know if

1015
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 5: you're going to air this, but I recently got this

1016
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 5: mattress cooling pad called Koolie. That has changed the way

1017
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 5: I sleep because now I can sleep with my weighted blanket,

1018
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 5: but the mattress is cool, so the blanket doesn't heat

1019
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 5: me up. And the sleep that I have been having

1020
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 5: is just a plus.

1021
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: I had some.

1022
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 5: Really good, vivid, a little bit fucked up dreams last night,

1023
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 5: but I just think that, like it was stuff that

1024
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 5: my mind needed to work through.

1025
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 4: Incredible. It's called Cooley.

1026
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: Cooley Coo l I.

1027
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 5: But there are a lot of different types of these

1028
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 5: cooling mattress pads right.

1029
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: That you hook up to the wall. This this version uses.

1030
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 5: It's cooling water, like you have like a machine that

1031
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 5: pumps cooling water through this mattress pad.

1032
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: It's it's a game change.

1033
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 4: Well that sounds lovely. Kind of a modern waterbed. Yes,

1034
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 4: interesting everything we were promised with the waterbed without the

1035
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 4: back ache.

1036
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 5: You would think that the waterbed would work because we

1037
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 5: all came from water. But it's terrible, fear back awful.

1038
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 4: It's wild that those ever took off, like anyone ever

1039
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 4: laid down on one of those and thought, okay, let's

1040
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 4: sell this.

1041
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: It's like they were fine. My cousin had one.

1042
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 4: My grandma had one was of course, it's fun to

1043
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 4: like roll around on for a minute. And the idea

1044
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 4: of sleeping twelve hour twelve hours, I seven to eight hours.

1045
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 4: It's a peek into my life. Seems wild to me. Yeah,

1046
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 4: but good for them for trying. This is how we

1047
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 4: play gift Master. I'm gonna name three gifts, three things

1048
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 4: you can give away, and then i'm gonna name three celebrities.

1049
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 4: You're gonna tell me which celebrity you would give which

1050
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,479
Speaker 4: gift and why does that make perfect sense?

1051
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 2: It makes perfect sense.

1052
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 4: Okay, these are the gifts you'll be giving away. Number

1053
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: one a portable grill. That's a convenient thing to have.

1054
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 4: Number two is a strappy pair of sandals, very nice.

1055
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 4: Number three is the Okerina of Time. Are you familiar

1056
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 4: with this? Oh, it's a device from the legend of Zelda.

1057
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 4: It's a little like whistle that you blow and then

1058
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 4: you can travel through time.

1059
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: Oh, the real arena of time.

1060
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: You'll be receiving the real ok arena of time, and.

1061
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 2: I have to give it to someone.

1062
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 4: You're gonna be giving it to one of these three people. Okay,

1063
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 4: so be very careful considering. Number one is Sean Hannity,

1064
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 4: number two, Goldie Hawn and number three do Alipa not

1065
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 4: at least loves do Alipa by the way, so be

1066
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 4: very careful.

1067
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 5: I just feel like, well, look, I just think Sean

1068
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 5: Hannedy's gonna want a portable grill as much as maybe

1069
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 5: Goldie and Duo want that to. I just feel like

1070
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 5: that's a layup gift for Sean Hannity.

1071
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 4: Right, It's a great gift, and it's something that tells

1072
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 4: the person you didn't think about the gift. You didn't

1073
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 4: really consider them. You thought, yeah, sure he'll take this.

1074
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: Does it?

1075
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 4: How do you? How does it work?

1076
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 2: How does a portable grill work?

1077
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 4: I would assume can either be charcoal based with the

1078
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 4: charcoal cookies or whatever those are called. But is that

1079
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 4: it charcoal briquette? You know it's perfect.

1080
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 5: Because Sean Hannity probably doesn't believe in climate change, right.

1081
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 4: He's probably going to like attach a diesel engine.

1082
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 5: He'll love it because he can pollute anywhere he goes, right, Okay,

1083
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 5: strappy sandals, I'm gonna givet to du Aalipa. I want

1084
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 5: to see Goldie han travel through time. I just think

1085
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 5: it would be delay. I think she would use it

1086
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 5: for mostly good. I think her like wandering around in

1087
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 5: ancient Egypt is really funny, Like I would give it

1088
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 5: to her, but like you have to take pictures.

1089
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 4: She would definitely take pictures. She's absolutely the person here

1090
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 4: who should be traveling through time and playing a little

1091
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: song before she does it. She's timeless everyone. She's been

1092
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 4: around long enough that we can trust her no offense

1093
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 4: to do it. But you haven't been around long enough,

1094
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 4: you might still make some big mistakes. But with Goldie,

1095
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 4: we know she has a great track record.

1096
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 5: Look, she she made a great daughter. She clearly was

1097
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 5: a good mom. Kate Hudson seems like a good person.

1098
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 5: Part of this kind of forgetting anything.

1099
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 4: She could take Kurt on occasion. Yeah, they're both.

1100
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 5: You know, there's nothing super cancellable about the Hans.

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Speaker 2: The russels of the Hudson's right seem pretty stand up.

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00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 4: Unless you hate a good time. I feel like they

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00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 4: have fun and they kind of do whatever they want.

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00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we send Goldie Han back to see

1105
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: what she does.

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00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 4: I want to see that happen.

1107
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: I also don't think I think she's more of an observer.

1108
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 4: Ver.

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00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: I don't think she's going to really mess with things.

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00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 4: No, she's like the fun mom that's hanging out. She

1111
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 4: shows up and takes a look.

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Speaker 5: She's just gonna be there to like have the experience.

1113
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 5: She's not like she.

1114
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: Just wants to meet the FitzGeralds. She's not going to

1115
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: like kill one of.

1116
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: Them, right, She's very much Do you mind if we

1117
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 4: get a picture? Yes, rather than oh, look at that butterfly.

1118
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 4: My god, that's the spirit of Goldie Han.

1119
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 5: If we find out when we get off this podcast

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Speaker 5: that Goldie Han died, I might that might be the

1121
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 5: thing that pushes me to believe in God truly.

1122
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 4: We're we will get in a car and head to Kentucky. Oh,

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00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 4: this podcast has a kind of a track record of

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00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 4: telling the future. So let's we're praying for Goldie.

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Speaker 2: Wow. The other things that's predicted, I'm sure.

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00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 4: I mean, the most famous thing was, prior to the podcast,

1127
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 4: we had recorded sixteen episodes. I posted to Instagram like

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00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 4: the announcement, and the announcement said this is February twenty twenty.

1129
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 4: It said it premieres be ready March twelfth, when all

1130
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 4: hell breaks.

1131
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: Least, Oh my god, that's fantastic.

1132
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: Look what happened, so it was you. Our love is

1133
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 4: with the han Russell family and we wish them nothing

1134
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 4: but good health. And this is before anything bad happened,

1135
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 4: so we can talk. And Goldie, we hope you're still

1136
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 4: alive or a butterfly, I agree excellently played DOA's in

1137
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 4: her Strappi's Sean's you know, destroying the planet as he will.

1138
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 4: And Goldie is going to back in time to save us.

1139
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 4: Yeap or just hang or just hang try out a

1140
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 4: new dip. She wants to, you know, eat something new.

1141
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 4: This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called

1142
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 4: I Said no emails, people write into I Said no

1143
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 4: gifts at gmail dot com. My listeners are begging for

1144
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 4: answers at all times. It's really pathetic, but I try

1145
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 4: to help. Will you help me answer a questions? I'd

1146
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 4: love to all right this one just as High Bridger,

1147
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 4: even without a comma, which is kind of a crazy

1148
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 4: way to get into an email. But that's fine. I

1149
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 4: need to get a gift for my brother's twenty sixth birthday.

1150
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 4: But I am the world's worst gift giver. I've intentionally

1151
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 4: given blenders as gifts without any mention of wanting a blender.

1152
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 4: Kind of bad. Anyway, My brother is impossible to give

1153
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 4: gifts to. He doesn't like most things, prefers to not

1154
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 4: partake in activities, and doesn't have any hobbies. However, however,

1155
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 4: he loves cars, cats, has one sports beer as long

1156
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 4: as it's not craft Lebron James, and mostly himself. He's

1157
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 4: also super dramatic and is unwilling to ever try anything new.

1158
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 4: I have faith in your gift giving expertise. Thanks, and

1159
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 4: that's from Cat and Cincinnati.

1160
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 2: Well here's the thing.

1161
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 5: The cat is a layup because if you give a gift,

1162
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 5: it doesn't have to he doesn't have to try something new.

1163
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: It's for the cat.

1164
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 4: Isn't that the best possible?

1165
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: The cat, cat toy, cat tower, a cat tower at condo.

1166
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 5: Honestly, something maybe a new type of litter. Remember when

1167
00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 5: Dragon writer back promoting.

1168
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: I think it was pretty kitty, which is colorful cat litter.

1169
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: Get him a pack of that. If he doesn't want it,

1170
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: you can throw it out.

1171
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 4: A new expensive litter box. That's what everyone dreams of,

1172
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 4: and they won't.

1173
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 2: Buy new things.

1174
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 5: Oh that's why I'm saying, he just like he might

1175
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 5: be reticent to be there's a couple people in my

1176
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 5: life like this where they're like, oh, no, I liked

1177
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 5: my old litter box, Like, what's something small?

1178
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 4: Imagine a life where you're not adventurous enough to try

1179
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 4: a new litter box.

1180
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 2: I can. There are a couple people, yep.

1181
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 4: I mean I feel like cat here comes in saying

1182
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 4: he's not interested in anything, and then she names like

1183
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 4: ten things that he likes. Cats, cars, Lebron James, Lebron,

1184
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 4: Cragby beer, and himself. He's a narcissist, so like, get

1185
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 4: him a photo shoot. Oh that's fun, a photo shoot

1186
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 4: with this cat.

1187
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, a photohoot with Lebron James. Here's

1188
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 5: here's what you do.

1189
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 2: He's a narciss His cat et seahand painted portrait of

1190
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: him and.

1191
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 4: His cat, Lebron James in the background.

1192
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: Lebron is in the background giving a thumbs.

1193
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 4: Giving a thumb. It's a perfect The fact that Kat

1194
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: wrote into this podcast is ridiculous. She knew she didn't

1195
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 4: need help. It was all right there in front of her.

1196
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 4: She's the one that's attention seeking. She's obsessed with herself.

1197
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 4: She wanted to hear her name on a podcast that's

1198
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 4: all her brother. I'm on her brother's side, Kat, I'm

1199
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 4: deleting your email.

1200
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: On her brother's side.

1201
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I don't know if this is a side situation.

1202
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 4: It is now, Okay, it is now. Cat has lost

1203
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 4: this battle. Great, her brother wins. Hopefully he'll start listening

1204
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 4: to the podcast. This is how I get new listeners,

1205
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 4: one at a time, creating family drama, drawing in brothers.

1206
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 4: We're always looking for new brothers to listen to the podcast. Kat,

1207
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 4: don't write back in Oh, Rachel, incredible. I've got this

1208
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 4: new gift that I'll be very careful to play with

1209
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 4: particular groups of people.

1210
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: Way with play at your own risk.

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00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 5: But I think then it's called side Effects, and I

1212
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 5: think if you google it, you can buy the game.

1213
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 4: It's gorgeous. It really is a beautiful work.

1214
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 2: Brought it on.

1215
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 5: Because I wanted to spread the word about this game.

1216
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 5: I think that some people might really like this, some

1217
00:53:59,239 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 5: people might not.

1218
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't see a game that looks this stunning,

1219
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 4: that often gorgeous some real thoughts. It looks very but

1220
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 4: it's not right exactly. And I'm excited to play it

1221
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 4: and continue to deal with my own mental health. Thank you,

1222
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 4: so much for being here. Fun listener, The podcast is

1223
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 4: coming to a close. It's over, so you now have

1224
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 4: to figure out something else to do with your day.

1225
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 4: And I feel like you're going to do it. You're

1226
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 4: stronger than me. You can do it. I love you, goodbye,

1227
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 4: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's

1228
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 4: produced by our dear friend Analise Neilson, and it's beautifully

1229
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 4: mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without

1230
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 4: our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course,

1231
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 4: could only come from miracle worker Amy Man. You must

1232
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 4: follow the show on Instagram. At I said no Gifts,

1233
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you

1234
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 4: get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting.

1235
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 4: And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts.

1236
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

1237
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 2: But you're a guess to my home.

1238
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 3: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guess,

1239
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 3: You're own presences presents enough that I already had too

1240
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 3: much stuff, So how did you dare to surbey me