1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty and he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 3: He told the media that I was a freaking snake 5 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: and that you completely understood why I had been assaulted, 6 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 3: and I was shocked they would justify and celebrate this 7 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 3: filin assault that caused me so much pain in my family, 8 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 3: so much pain. 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 4: As Rand Paul yesterday at the confirmation hearing for Senator 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 4: Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma, who wants to be the 11 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 4: DHS secretary, who had said he understood why Rand Paul's 12 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 4: neighbor blindsighted him from behind and put him in the hospital. 13 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, about killed him. 14 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 4: And Mark Wayne was not terribly charitable in his answer 15 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 4: to that question as we played yesterday and the hostilities continued. Yeah, 16 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 4: we have some more clips that we actually didn't get 17 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 4: to yesterday. So here's a little more. So do I understand? 18 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 4: So I just mentioned that the Senate did vote to 19 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 4: move along his nomination the committee. Yeah, with the help 20 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: of Fetterman, Democrat of Pennsylvania, because Rand voted no, you 21 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 4: needed to pick up a Democrat. Yeah, because the majority 22 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 4: party gets like one more person on the committee. Why 23 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: why did rand vote no? Was it because of the 24 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 4: personal he hates him? That's a decent reason. Okay, more 25 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 4: of Randa Paul and Senator Mark Wayne Mohen. 26 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: In the days after the fight, you did many interviews 27 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: in which you justified the violence as historically justified by 28 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: precedents such as caning and dueling. Is it today your 29 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: opinion that the caning of Charles Sumner was not only justified, 30 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: but argue use still for resolving our political differences with violence. 31 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 5: What I was simple at pointing out is some of 32 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 5: the rules that still applied to this body. For instance, 33 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 5: dueling with two consenting adults is still there. I was 34 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 5: pointing out what an. 35 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: Illegal for one hundred and seventy years, there's no precedent 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: for legal dueling. Even then they fled the country. Do 37 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: you realize that the man that beat Charles Sumner with 38 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 3: a cane, he beat him till he was unconscious. 39 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 6: You know why? 40 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: I know senators intervened because his friend held a gun 41 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: on the other senators and he kept beating him and 42 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 3: beating him until he crushed his skull. That's what you're 43 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: insinuating as the president of the Senate, and that's what 44 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: you live by. That is a very very dangerous sentiment. 45 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 4: Wow, we met a Senator Mullen in Milwaukee and really 46 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: liked him. But what he should have done yesterday, and 47 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 4: what he should do is say, you know, I was 48 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 4: just it was a crowd pleasing sort of thing to say, 49 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 4: I can understand why your neighbor attacked it. 50 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: I didn't mean it. 51 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 4: I don't Violence is wrong. We live in an arrow 52 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 4: where we say hyperbolic things. That's what I did. I 53 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 4: shouldn't have That's funny. 54 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: I was saving this because I didn't want to steal 55 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: anybody's thunder. But I was thinking, we need to just 56 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: fully move into the period of American history where you 57 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: say I was pandering to the base and everybody goes, oh, okay, sure, 58 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: I mean, because everybody does it, everybody knows they're doing it. 59 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: And in the world of podcasting, where you got a 60 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: particularly pugnacious hoost or whatever and the red meat is 61 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: flying around like it's feeding time at the lion enclosure, Yeah, 62 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: you're gonna say some stuff that in the quiet of 63 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: a Senate hearing sounds ridiculous and I'm not approving of 64 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: anything Mark Wayne Mullens said at all. I just that's 65 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: the period we're in, which is well crazy and probably unhealthy. 66 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: But here we are the other period we're in. 67 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 4: I heard this from a pundit I like, but is 68 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 4: definitely not a Trump fan. Trump doesn't like people who 69 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 4: apologize for anything. He is a you stick to your 70 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 4: guns no matter what guy, and he chose Mullen to 71 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 4: be his nominee. And if you want Trump support, you 72 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: got to be a guy who fights everybody all the time. 73 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 4: You don't ever back down and say I shouldn't have 74 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 4: said that. Wow, uh, which kind of fits anyway. Here's 75 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 4: more you said it. 76 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: I quote sometimes people just need to be punched in 77 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: the face. Is that still your opinion that political disputes 78 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: can sometimes and often only be resolved by violence. 79 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 5: No, I don't. I don't always agree with that. I 80 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 5: don't believe in political violence. I've made that very clear. 81 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 5: But sometimes people are doing theoretically speaking, that's sir, I 82 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 5: get it. It's about character assassination. For you, that's the 83 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 5: way this game is played. Understand it. And you are 84 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 5: making this about you, which is fine, but that doesn't 85 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 5: keep me a sex. 86 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: Assassination when you were the one lauding the assault. Who 87 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 3: do you have think started that character assassination? 88 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh, this is an ugly period we're 89 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: going through. Oh do we skip seventy three? Hanson thought 90 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: it would make more sense in this order. Oh okay, okay, 91 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: Uh wow, Yeah, it's it's super personal with those guys. Obviously, 92 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: I'd be freaking pissed if I's Ran Paul. 93 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 4: Some guy blindsided me a nut old neighbor and almost 94 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 4: killed me and you cheered it a few dude, is 95 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 4: the way I would feel. 96 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: I VI's Rand Paul. That's clearly how he feels. And 97 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: I think markt. 98 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 4: I liked Mullen when we met him, but I think 99 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 4: he's the big guy who can always win every fight, 100 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 4: so he loves the idea of fights. 101 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: Of course you do. 102 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: You're bigger than everybody else. Yeah, he's one of those guys. 103 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the intellectual, curly headed optometrist does not swing 104 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: that way. No, anyway, here's here's a more three days. 105 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: In between you offer no apology, sir, and you offer 106 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: no apology today and no regrets. 107 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: Uh, haven't I known the word apologized? 108 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: Haven't heard the word regret, haven't heard I misspoke and 109 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 3: it was heated and I made a mistake at any 110 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: of those words, sir. 111 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 5: Actually it wasn't heated, and I'm not apologizing for point 112 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 5: not your. 113 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: Coodnt or goodn't. 114 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: So you're you're jolly well fine, and you want the 115 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: American public and the people up here to vote that 116 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: may or may not vote for you, to know that 117 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: you supported the felonious violent attack on me from behind. 118 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 5: I did not say I supported it. I said I 119 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 5: understood it. There's a difference, So. 120 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: That means you really didn't approve of it, just completely 121 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: understand it. What do you think most people would interpret 122 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 3: completely understand to be support for or a condemnation of 123 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 3: the violence. 124 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 5: Sir, As I said, we can. We can have our differences. 125 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 5: It's not going to keep me from doing my job 126 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 5: as Secretary of Homeland Security. I'm going to secure Kentucky 127 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 5: and take care of Kentucky. As if this much as 128 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 5: I am over this, if. 129 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: This were a one off, it would be one thing. 130 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 3: If you just disliked me so much that you approved 131 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: a violence against me, people are could just write it off. Well, 132 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 3: maybe they hate each other, but really there's a pattern 133 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: of this. 134 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: Now here's the question I got. Oh, clearly they hate 135 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 4: each other. Yes, Here's the question I got is did 136 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 4: they ever get around to here's the way Ice Barbie 137 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 4: handled it? How are you going to handle it? Did 138 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 4: they have that conversation? I was told they did not 139 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 4: that the hearing never got around to that stuff, which 140 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 4: seems like the whole conversation, I mean that should be had. 141 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 4: That's the point of the hearing. 142 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: I feel like I've been punched in the face, perhaps 143 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: by Mark Wayne Mullen by that fact. I had not 144 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: heard that. 145 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 4: Well, have you heard any conversation kidding man, have you 146 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 4: heard any conversation about how Minneapolis was handled the since 147 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 4: you're going to run DHS and ICE now and how 148 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 4: you plan to handle it? I haven't heard any clips 149 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: about that. 150 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: We need to hold a seance and apologize to the 151 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: founding fathers because it's over. It lasted almost precisely two 152 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty years, but we're done. We're through now. Okay, 153 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: that's that I found that deeply discouraging. I'm sure that 154 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: wasn't your purpose, but that I'd love to do right now, 155 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: let's dah you stand up on them. Forget about it. 156 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: That's where we are. Oh boy, oh god. 157 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 4: I understand, I understand. I even understand Mullen saying the 158 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 4: stuff he said about Ran Paul's neighbor in the current 159 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 4: climate we're in. In a certain setting, I say, I 160 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 4: say all kinds of things that I don't you know, 161 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 4: if you really boil it down, I don't mean or 162 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 4: believe I shouldn't. 163 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: Say or whatever just to be shocking or funny or whatever. 164 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: And uh and if he had said, yeah, you know, 165 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: I got caught up in the moment, it's trying to 166 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: I thought it was a crowd pleasing line. 167 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: It was a crowd pleasing line. But no, political violence 168 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 4: is awful. I'm sorry for what happened to you. It's terrible. 169 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 4: It should never happen to anyone. You know that that 170 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 4: wouldn't be that hard to say, what but it is? 171 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: And that wouldn't be a sign of weakness at all 172 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: in my world, not at all. Well, as we and 173 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: Ricky Gervais have pointed out through the years, Notice how 174 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: I put us together like vehicles. If you strip humor 175 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: of a pretend that you don't know that sometimes humor 176 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 2: is offered to shock, and you making that joke is 177 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 2: an agreement that you disagree with the sentiment with the audience, 178 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: not that you agree with it, but you know, the 179 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: the humorless strip, the humor of humor, and then just 180 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: read the words as if they're an essay that you're 181 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: out for the New York Times, right, I mean it's 182 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: so dishonest. Oh my god. So yeah, we've got to 183 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 2: go with the times. We live in defense. Yeah that 184 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: was hyperbole because we were just saying crap. But now 185 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: it's just it's podcast stuff. I mean, everybody knows what 186 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: he'd what he means by that, only people pretending not 187 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: to understand. I would say that I had found trouble. 188 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: What was Senator Mullens? How was he slicing it? There? 189 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: Very thin with the whole. 190 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: I don't condone it, I support it or whatever. 191 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: I understand it completely. 192 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: I understand why your neighbor will put you in the 193 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 4: hospital near you kill you, but I would support. 194 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 2: It because you're a snake in the grass and I 195 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: hate you. Yes, that is why. Well, you know, it 196 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 2: reminds me of Chris Rock's oj pit about you see 197 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: some young guy tooling around town in your car with 198 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: your wife. What was this punchline. I'm not saying it's right, 199 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 2: but I understand right all right? Right AnyWho, that was 200 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: quite a moment. These are guys in the same party. 201 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 4: And again, the most important part of that is we 202 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 4: didn't really have a hearing and discuss how DHS and 203 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 4: ICE are going. 204 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: To move forward in a different way from ICE Barbie. 205 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: We didn't do that. Hmm. That's yeah. Is it surprising? 206 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: Though I'd like to, I still can't believe that to 207 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 2: be true. 208 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 4: I didn't watch the whole hearing, but I heard one 209 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 4: pundit say that, and I haven't heard a single clip 210 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 4: from the hearing that had anything to do with how 211 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 4: they're going to handle immigration enforcement going forward. 212 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 2: I feel like somebody told me your dad murdered the 213 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: postman because he gave him a hard look. I'm like, 214 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: I don't what that can't be. They didn't even talk 215 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: about like the biggest DHS. The DHS isn't being funded 216 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: right now, ludicrously and stupidly for those very reasons, and 217 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 2: the Democrats are trying to grand stand on it. But yeah, okay, 218 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: so I gave you the side eye dad, Huh. I 219 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: don't blay I totally understand it. I don't condone it, 220 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: but I understand it. Anyway, You're gonna need a good 221 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: defense attorney. So I'll make some calls. Who's side to 222 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: you on on this thing? Ariana side? 223 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 4: If you are text line four one, five two nine 224 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 4: five KFTC more to company. 225 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: You want it now, I'd love to do it right now. 226 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 5: We'll stain your butt up. 227 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: DWN you stand up on them armstrong and getty. 228 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 7: Ogue It describes itself as the world's first dog magazine 229 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 7: on the world of canine couture and lifestyle, and yes, 230 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 7: it openly admits it was indeed inspired by Vogue. Condy Nast, 231 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 7: the parent company of Vogue with a V, is suing, 232 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 7: alleging that the dog magazine is obviously intended and likely. 233 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: To cause consumer confusion. While Vogue with a V is 234 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: a magazine for people. 235 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 7: It also has a special annual issue devoted to dogs 236 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 7: celebrity dogs called Dogue. It now wants all copies of 237 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 7: Dogue destroyed in addition to unspecified damages, but Port says 238 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 7: she's going to fight back. 239 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 2: She says the magazine is a parody. 240 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 7: Nobody could confuse it with Vogue magazine. 241 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 4: Okay, I didn't know the actually does an issue every 242 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 4: year about dogs that they called dog that's a different thing. 243 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 4: But before he said that, I thought, you're concerned that 244 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 4: people just don't know the difference between a dog magazine 245 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 4: and a people magazine. 246 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: And women will start trying on dog clothes and be 247 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: confused when they don't fit. Why are you wearing a 248 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: dog collar and drinking out of a bowl? Well, I 249 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: subscribe to dog magazine, which is the same as Vogue. Right, yes, 250 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 2: your honor, I move for dismissal on the grounds of 251 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: everybody needs to shut the hell up. We have real problems. 252 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: Damn the gavel comes down. Oh, speaking of awards for 253 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 2: various things, this is a really funny story. Here's this 254 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: gal lives in la in a small apartment, doesn't make 255 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 2: a ton of money. She's a production assistant in which 256 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: oh manner those people are vanishing is the movie business 257 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: crumbles and moves to other places. But anyway, she returned 258 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: to La after spending some time traveling, and she got 259 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: a new apartment and outfitting her place was proving expensive 260 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: and she needed a pretty good sized area rug and 261 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: she was she watched the she was walking her dog, 262 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: and she noticed the red carpet being installed outside the 263 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: Dolby Theater in Hollywood, where the Oscars are held, and 264 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: she says, I got the idea when I was walking 265 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: her down the red carpet that I could maybe track 266 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: down what happens to it afterward. And so, long story short, 267 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: she gets up the next morning, bright and early, arrives 268 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: at the theater. She thought her textile dreams were dashed 269 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: when she saw the carpet was already gone. Then she thought, 270 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: maybe I can find it nearby, and sure en off 271 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: on a street near the theater, just behind the Jimmy 272 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: Kimmel Live Theater, she found a clean dumpster containing the 273 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: red carpet. 274 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: Wow, they just roll it up and throw it in 275 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 4: a dumpster? Yes, she said, I have the same question. 276 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: There's all kinds of people that would buy that. Well, 277 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: not only that, but how about the area rugs for 278 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: the poor? I thought, you you're all about to equity Hollywood. 279 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: You just throw this crap out? 280 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 4: So she who wouldn't pay a couple hundred bucks to 281 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: have a chunk of red carpet from the Oscars as 282 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 4: the runner in their hallway? 283 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? I know, I know, hell I would pay for it. Ironically, 284 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: so she says to the security guard, Hey, I have 285 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: an insane question. Can I have some of that red carpet? 286 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: And the guard just essentially winked at her and pulled 287 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: a souvenir piece from her own pocket. So she grabbed 288 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: the biggest piece she could physically lug home, which measured 289 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: six foot by eight foot when she unrolled it in 290 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: the park with them, that is what a great conversation piece. Yeah, 291 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: that's funny. And there's a picture of her, her little 292 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: dog sitting on the red carpet. I've got I don't 293 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: know if I ever posted those. 294 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 4: I've got pictures because when we were in La one time, 295 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 4: me and the kids, we were at the Dolby Theater 296 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 4: and we did various poses on that the stairs, the 297 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 4: big stairs there after you get the red carpet, you 298 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 4: walk the stairs that you see in every Oscar episode. 299 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 4: We all did poses on the on the stairs because 300 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 4: everybody nice. But yeah, that's hilarious that they just roll 301 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: up the red carpet and throw in the dumpster. 302 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: It's kind of surprising, and it's expensive too, they're saying, 303 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: because it's dyed a very special specific color. 304 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 4: God you could sell that for many thousands of dollars 305 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 4: every year, chunks of it and give it to charity 306 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 4: or whatever, just make a profit or whoever somebody. But 307 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 4: the idea that throwing in the trash seems ridiculous. The 308 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 4: whole Hollywood crowd is so beneath contempt. I literally can't 309 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 4: even work up contempt for them. They're just too dumb 310 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 4: and silly for me to even work up any real emotion. 311 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is surprising. 312 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: I mean, I know we've been talking about that whole 313 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 4: thing being over for a long time, but there was 314 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: seventeen million people tuned in the other night. It is just, 315 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 4: it is just it doesn't exist even really as a 316 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 4: thing anymore. 317 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: I haven't a short for the contempt for so many Americas. 318 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: It's just so damn long, really really long things, ain't 319 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: it these days? Three hours? 320 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 4: And if you do dip into it, it's them making 321 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 4: fun of everything you think so sounds fun? Why why 322 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 4: I'm surprise more people don't watch Ira the Popcorn Kids. 323 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 4: We got more on the way if you missed a 324 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 4: segment the podcast Armstrong and Getty. 325 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: On demand Armstrong and Getty. 326 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 8: The Governor of Texas, Greg Abbott coming out saying we 327 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 8: are not going to do Caesar Chavez Day, which was plenty. 328 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 8: There is Arizona, the governor of California, saying we need 329 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 8: to think about what we're going to do March thirty. First, 330 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 8: they're supposed to be a state holiday named after Caesar Chavez. 331 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 2: That name could be changing. 332 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 8: This story is going to stay with us for a 333 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 8: long time as we figure out the repercussions of it. 334 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 4: Okay, they didn't explain in that news clip what the 335 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 4: story is. New York Times going big with outing Caesar 336 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 4: Chavez as a child rapist YEP, at. 337 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: Least two teen victims. Then the Dolores Huerta, the co 338 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: founder of the United farm Workers, said, Yea, he raped 339 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: me when I was an adult. I'bout little Caesar Shavez. 340 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 4: Bio for those of us who didn't go to a 341 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 4: California public school, so it's not you know, we didn't 342 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 4: get to taught all this like he was. George Washington, Well, 343 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 4: correct me if I'm wrong. 344 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: Your son said he was completely steeped in Saesar Chevez 345 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: and had no idea what Thomas Jefferson did. 346 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, didn't know a single thing about Thomas Jefferson 347 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 4: like it was a name unfamiliar to him. I don't 348 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 4: remember what great it was, but he knew about Caesarshavez, 349 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: community organizer, civil rights activist. So he was born in 350 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: nineteen twenty seven, and you Arizona. I don't know why 351 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 4: I'd always assume Caesar Shaviz was from Mexico, but he 352 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 4: was born in Arizona. Grew up in a family of 353 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 4: farm workers, and after his family lost their small farm 354 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 4: during the Great Depression, they became migrant laborers straight out 355 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 4: of the Grapes of Wrath, moving throughout California to pick 356 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 4: crops from job to job and being treated verily, very. 357 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: Poorly, if you've ever read The Grapes Rath or know 358 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 2: anything about that history. 359 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 4: He attended more than thirty schools before dropping out after 360 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 4: eighth grade to work full time in the fields, and 361 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 4: it gave him a full understanding of the hardship spacebag 362 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 4: or cultural workers. In the fifties, he began working doing 363 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 4: community organizing, honed his skills as a community organizer, and 364 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: founded the National farm Workers Association alongside Dolores Huerta, who 365 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 4: probably should get more credit that she should be a 366 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 4: more well known name. Than she is, it would seem, 367 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 4: and maybe she's about to be because Caesar shab is 368 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 4: falling so much the grape strike and boycott, which I 369 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: did not know about. Schabez rose to national prominence during 370 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 4: the Delano Grape Strike, which was from nineteen sixty five 371 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 4: to nineteen seventy five years, in which he led thousands 372 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 4: of farm workers in a strike against California grapegrowers demanding 373 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 4: fair wages and better working conditions. He organized a nationwide 374 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 4: consumer boycott of table grapes that gained massive public support 375 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 4: across the country. 376 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: I don't I was a tiny kid and I don't 377 00:19:59,240 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: remember it. 378 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 4: But maybe it did, eventually forcing growers to sign union contracts. 379 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 4: Deeply Influenced by Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Junior, Chabez 380 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 4: was committed to nonviolent resistance. He used fasts, marches, and 381 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 4: boycott's as tools of protest. 382 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: I didn't know this either. 383 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 4: His most famous fast, in nineteen sixty eight lasted twenty 384 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 4: five days. That's a long time to go without food 385 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 4: and drew national attention, with Robert F. Kennedy visiting visiting 386 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 4: him to show solidarity. 387 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: At the time. 388 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 4: His rallying cry I should have had you get this clip, Michael. 389 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 4: His rallying cry, yes we can see se Pueite became 390 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 4: a lasting symbol of the labor and civil rights movements, 391 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: as known by doctor Joe Biden. 392 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 2: Do we have the clip? I should ask you for 393 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: the clip. I'm sorry about that. Caesar Shabez passed away. 394 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. The doctor is running a little late this afternoon, 395 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 2: so it'll be a few minutes. He's got a lot 396 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 2: of patience. He was pa say one way, there you go, 397 00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: there's the doctor there. 398 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 4: But Caesar shab has got that going and made it famous, 399 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 4: and he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom after 400 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 4: he died by Bill Clinton. I'm surprised he didn't get 401 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 4: it in his lifetime. His birthday, March thirty first, is 402 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 4: a state holiday in California, or at least was probably. 403 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to last. We got what 404 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 4: twelve days by March thirty first, it will no longer 405 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 4: be a state holiday, would be my guests, So. 406 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: A state holiday in Texas too, which had already done 407 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: away with according to that News repates including California and Texas. 408 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: What doesn't take too much time to list them. 409 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 4: That news report we just had said they've already done 410 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 4: away within Texas. 411 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah. When we were talking about the New 412 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 2: York Times breaking story yesterday, a number of you emailed 413 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: us with comments that I found were very very interesting. 414 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: Fly forty I love. I left out my own snarky 415 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: car comment. 416 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 4: I had precard while I was reading his biography to say, 417 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 4: I was going to say he believed in nonviolence except 418 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 4: against thirteen year old girls. 419 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 2: If he was horny, Yeah, yeah, then he'd raped them. 420 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: Uh so, let's see John Wrights. For decades, they've ignored 421 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: the fact that Chavez would drop a dime on any 422 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: scabs working in the field. That's true. He used brutal 423 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: violence against U scabs, stripe breakers or illegal immigrants who 424 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: he considered stripe breakers. His organization actually manned the border 425 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 2: and physically repulsed illegals trying to come into the country. 426 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 2: I mean, made ice look like nothing. And do you 427 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 2: remember when Joe Biden lied and said the border guards 428 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: were whipping people when they weren't, says our Chavs guys did. Yeah, 429 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: how does that not get any attention? Unbelievable. Let's see 430 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 2: some comments from Paolo Chris oh, I was about to Yeah, exactly. 431 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: Christy Noman just lost her job as Secretary of Homeland Security. 432 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: Her border enforcement was called brutal, reckless, and racist by 433 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: left disregarding. Now Mark Wayne Mullen is up the same 434 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 2: seat before the hearings begin, I'd love someone to read 435 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 2: this quote aloud, no attribution, and I quote. We estimate 436 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: that sixty to seventy percent of the farm workers in 437 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: California are out of a job because of the wetbacks. 438 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: The border patrol was not doing their jobs. So we're 439 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: going to have to go out and do it ourselves. 440 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: Christino twenty five. Let that hang in the air, then 441 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: reveal it. That's quote from Sezar Chevez, labor Icon UfW founder, 442 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: the man whose birthday is a California state holiday, the 443 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: man on the mural outside half the Democratic Party headquarters 444 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: in America for now. He said it in nineteen seventy four, 445 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 2: then organized his own border patrols to back it up. 446 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: Before we call Mullen's confirmation racist, someone should explain why 447 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: it was progressive when Chevez said it. The parties just 448 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: haven't just switched talking points, they've switched heroes. 449 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know about his tactics, but his understanding 450 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 4: of the problem was one hundred percent correct. If you 451 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 4: have illegal immigrants coming in, you can't get any decent 452 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 4: wages for American citizens. 453 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: Obviously, this note from Christy Sayesar Chavez was a terrorist, 454 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 2: wanted to share. My dad grew up in the Central Valley, 455 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: California in the sixties when Chavez was active. My dad 456 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: had several friends with small family farms. They didn't employ anyone, 457 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: let alone migrant workers. The family would do the work 458 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: and sometimes they would hire the local school kids to 459 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: come help. You actually did that as a kid, didn't you. 460 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 2: Chavez guys would drive by shooting guns and throwing explosives 461 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: into the farm area because they weren't hiring the right 462 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 2: type of laborers. He was certainly no peaceful MLK figure. Wow, 463 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: that's really interesting and certainly not if you were a 464 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: thirteen year old girl he found attractive. Allegedly al the 465 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: libertarian cop on Cesar Chavez Fellow's hot take on Caesar 466 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 2: Kami Chavez. Clips of Chavez, articularly outlining the downt out 467 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 2: of illegal immigration the harm to work in class Americans 468 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: are circulating all over right leaning and right wing social 469 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: media recently, as his words contradict the current ideology and 470 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: became a talking point for the right. The left is 471 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 2: quick to demonize in distance as it doesn't fit the presentism. 472 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 2: The guid's the current progressive narrative. So that's a very 473 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: argument that the left is canceling him. 474 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 4: That's why they're really willing to very quickly get rid 475 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 4: of him, because that's very inconvenient. It was very inconvenient 476 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 4: to have CEUs Chavez name on a street sign or 477 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 4: your middle school when he was anti illegal immigration. 478 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 2: Good point. Ah, I'm going to keep you anonymous, ma'am, 479 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: but this is a lean anonymous in Huntington Beach, California. 480 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 2: Two points, This news about Chavez is not new. It 481 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 2: was well known in California during the sixties. I remember 482 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: my mom commenting about it every time he was in 483 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: the news. But being molested by the boss was viewed 484 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: through a different lens then, and sadly very common. Uh. 485 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: And then she says, wow, that's interesting. Most importantly, this 486 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: is not about Chevez, It's about Muslims. Keeping in mind 487 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: that in politics, timing is everything. The Muslims have been 488 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 2: trying to get their eye to holiday days are recognized 489 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 2: as national holidays, but they had to get rid of one. Okay, 490 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: that seems like a stretch to me, but we'll keep 491 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: an eye on it. Let's see Chris guys, guys, guys, 492 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 2: the woke crowd turn on him because he was anti 493 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 2: illegal immigration. He was all about guest seasonal workers and workers' rights. 494 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 2: Probably would have voted for Voter ID two. Okay, let's 495 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 2: see len I grew up in the farm worker movement 496 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: during the grape and let us boycotts that Jack was 497 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: just describing. As my dad was assigned by the AFLCIO 498 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 2: as liaison to the United farm Workers Union for many years. 499 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: I have told my children that Seesar would not have 500 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 2: appreciated having holidays, schools, parks, and boulevards named after him, 501 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: and I suggested a better option would be farm Worker Boulevard, 502 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: farm Worker Park, et cetera. This would appropriately remind us 503 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 2: of the importance of the people who bring food to 504 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: our tables. Now, with these revelations, I feel certain this 505 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: is the right thing to do. Your move, Gavin, Okay, 506 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: and then. 507 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 4: Well, they're gonna have to rename these streets and schools 508 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 4: and all this different sort of stuff. Buildings, they got 509 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 4: to go with something they can't that would make the 510 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 4: quick and easy and probably appropriate. 511 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, until it turns out that she was 512 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, a cat abuse or whatever, drown the 513 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: puppies or something. I don't know. No, you shouldn't. 514 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 4: I wish she might be a perfectly nice person, you know, 515 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 4: I have no reason to think. 516 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 2: She was and a rape victim. Yeah. Final note here 517 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: from Scott. I feel horrible for these women that were 518 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: raped and essentially and essentially tortured by the power in 519 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: the movement that says our Chavez was creating. It's really 520 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: sad that there are probably countless stories of that throughout humanity, 521 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 2: of those either thinking they're so powerful or above prosecution, 522 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 2: or see if they can take advantage of it. What 523 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 2: I do find very interesting is the bigger question of 524 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: why all this is happening now. I have a tendency 525 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: to think that between them tearing down Caesar Chavez and 526 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: MLK Junior when the tapes come out, the Marxists left, 527 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: they're washing them out of communication so they can rewrite history. 528 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: Since both men had, by today's standards, very conservative views. 529 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: Obviously their personal stuff is horrible, especially with Chavez, Well, 530 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 2: wait for the MLK stuff to come out. But they 531 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: don't follow the woke agenda of today, so they have 532 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 2: to get rid of them history books and replace them 533 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: with current dogma. This is obviously voice dictated, so it's 534 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: a little scattered, but very interesting in a scary way. 535 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 2: As they continue to warp the minds of children in 536 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: the school system and rewrite history like nineteen eighty four, 537 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: what's going to be the sacred cows that are destroyed 538 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: ten or twenty years from now to make the new dogma. 539 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: I do agree with you guys and think the US 540 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: is blazing toward the path of destruction. Do the Marxist 541 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: America hating teaching, even when some of these teachers probably 542 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: don't even realize that's what they're doing. Yeah, I agree 543 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: with you completely. They just think they're being up with 544 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: the times and supporting the current chosen, downtrodden. Any references 545 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four several actual classics that mention how fervently 546 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: brainwashed the youth need to be to create a new society. 547 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: And that's the common theme of both fiction and nonfiction 548 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: about that. If you're going to tear down the old 549 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: and usher in a new society. You've got to have 550 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: the young, so they brainwash them. Thanks for the nice 551 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: things about the show. 552 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 4: That is an interesting angle that I hadn't thought of, 553 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 4: that Caesar Chavez has become really inconvenient. 554 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and. 555 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 4: Convenient for people like us. We love when Caesar Shavez 556 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,959 Speaker 4: comes up. Oh, you want to talk about Caesars Shopez. 557 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: Great. 558 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 4: Here here, let me get a list of quotes about 559 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 4: how much he hated I legal immigration for obvious economic 560 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 4: reasons because it drives down wages for American citizens or 561 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: or you know, green card workers or whatever. 562 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: So yeah. Interesting. One final note, this is an odd one. 563 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 2: It was sent along by uh Tom. This is from 564 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: the University of San Diego's like Archives, their official library 565 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: website about Seesar Chavez. It's kind of a Wikipedia that 566 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 2: they maintain the university. And it goes into how f 567 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: the FBI under Johnson, Nixon, Ford, and Carter surveilled Chavez 568 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: based on little more than idle talk and unsubstantiated gossip. 569 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. Goes into the investigation for years and years. 570 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: What becomes abundantly clear in Chevez's FBI file is that 571 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: after Hoover's men wrapped up their spying, bound up their 572 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 2: foot thick dossier, cross referenced and index their material, and 573 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: analyze hundreds of reports that can came up empty. They 574 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: found nothing on Chavez. No Communist leadings leaning stained his reputation, 575 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: no ugly incidents detracted from his reputation, no misappropriation of funds, 576 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: no extramarital affairs undermined his reputation as a family man. 577 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: Chavez never even displayed one iota of disloyalty or blah 578 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: blah blah. So he's officially still a saint on the 579 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: University of California at San Diego's website. We'll see how 580 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: long that lasts. 581 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 4: So the Hoover FBI was spying on Chavez same as 582 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 4: MLK and legally or illegally, I don't know, quite possibly 583 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: illegally like they were on MLKA Junior. Yeah, and that 584 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 4: that's another weird thing where you got streets and holidays 585 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 4: and everything. The FBI used to spy illegally on this 586 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 4: pur person, and the Dems love the FBI. I just 587 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 4: I don't understand that now. And Hoover's name is still 588 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 4: on the building. Yes, it's it's just it's ridiculous. Really, 589 00:31:52,800 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 4: it's hard to wrap your head around. More on the way. So, 590 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 4: as we speak, the President of the United States, Donald Trump, 591 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 4: is meeting with the Prime Minister of Japan. It appears 592 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 4: to be in a Chinese restaurant. Why would you meet 593 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 4: in a Chinese restaurant with the prime I believe that 594 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 4: is the current Oval office decor. But you doesn't look 595 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 4: like a Chinese restaurant to me. 596 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: It really does. Gotta get a fish tank in there. 597 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: AnyWho, Japan kind of said the other day, we ain't 598 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 4: gonna help you with this whole straight ohrmuz problem and everything. 599 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 4: But there has been an a joint statement put out 600 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 4: by Japan and all the European countries that hey, we're 601 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 4: on board with helping it, which was a nice I 602 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 4: don't know, like you said, maybe Marco Rubio put that together. 603 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 4: I don't know, but that was good to hear. And 604 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 4: here is just recently what the Prime Minister of Japan said, 605 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 4: you'll hear her interpreter. 606 00:32:52,920 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 6: It's imaus conso QBC. 607 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 9: Right now, situations in the Middle East and also the 608 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 9: entire world, we are actually experiencing a very severe security environment. 609 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: More a. 610 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 9: Studies and also the global economy is now about to 611 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 9: experience a huge hit because of this development. 612 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 6: Seka is not hanging dot Maka is uni things. 613 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 9: But even against that backdrop, I firmly believe that it 614 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 9: is only you, Donald who can achieve peace across the world. 615 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: It's not that. 616 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 6: Many sugar. 617 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 9: And two I'll do so. I am ready to reach 618 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 9: out to many of the partners in the international community 619 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 9: to achieve our objective together. 620 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 4: Now it's much friendlier than what she said the other day. 621 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 4: I don't remember what she said the other day. They 622 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 4: just basically said, we're not going to help you. It's 623 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 4: not our war. Yeah, now she sounds like she's involved 624 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 4: in I'm going to talk to our partners and we're gonna, 625 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 4: you know, we do it again, the Coalition of the Willing. 626 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 4: I say, I don't really have time to get to 627 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 4: it here. But historian in front of the Armstrong and 628 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 4: Getty Show, Neil Ferguson has a piece in the Free 629 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 4: Press how the Iran War goes global, and one of 630 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 4: the sentences out of that maybe we'll get to it 631 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 4: an hour four is the Strait of Horror moves is 632 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 4: blocked for how long the Strait of Taiwan is open 633 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 4: for how long, his concern being that if Russia and 634 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 4: China decided to close the Strait of Taiwan Wan right now, 635 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 4: with US pretty tied up with the straight up horror 636 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 4: moves being closed, you could have a serious global challenge. 637 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: Going on at the same time. Well, I certainly hope 638 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 2: it doesn't happen. I hope not either. In other Donald 639 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 2: Trump News, Big New Yahoo, you go pull out Trump's 640 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: forty one points underwater on the cost of living. 641 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 4: That's just a negative gas price. Ain't gonna help with that. 642 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 4: If you miss a segment at the podcast Armstrong and 643 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 4: Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty