WEBVTT - Maria and Nate’s Guide to GTO Travel 0:00:15.604 --> 0:00:16.084 Pushkin. 0:00:21.004 --> 0:00:24.924 Thank you guys so much for writing in last week 0:00:24.964 --> 0:00:27.484 and giving us your feedback about the show. 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I'm Maria 0:01:07.204 --> 0:01:09.204 Kanakova and I'm Nate Silver. 0:01:11.044 --> 0:01:13.084 Today on the show, we know a lot of you 0:01:13.124 --> 0:01:15.324 are in their process of traveling to and from places, 0:01:15.364 --> 0:01:19.124 so we'll have Nate and Marie's guide to gto travel. 0:01:19.284 --> 0:01:20.884 What do we do with people who think a lot 0:01:20.924 --> 0:01:24.844 about optimization to make our lives easier when we travel? 0:01:24.884 --> 0:01:27.924 And then what glaring and hypocritical mistakes do we make 0:01:27.964 --> 0:01:30.124 as you'll also find out about and. 0:01:30.164 --> 0:01:32.444 After that We're going to switch gears and talk about 0:01:32.564 --> 0:01:37.644 cheating in academia, in business schools, and specifically with several 0:01:37.684 --> 0:01:41.844 researchers who have been accused of cheating in cheating research 0:01:42.364 --> 0:01:47.804 research on dishonesty. So that'll be a fun one, especially 0:01:47.804 --> 0:01:49.844 for me since I'm working on a book about cheating. 0:01:53.684 --> 0:01:56.764 So this is Thanksgiving week. We're taping this on Tuesday. 0:01:57.004 --> 0:01:58.924 By the time everyone hears that, it will actually be 0:01:58.964 --> 0:02:01.964 Thanksgiving and they will already be at their destination, we hope, 0:02:02.124 --> 0:02:06.284 unless some major travelsnaff's happened. But this will still be 0:02:06.444 --> 0:02:09.004 very useful because we're in holiday season right, We're going 0:02:09.044 --> 0:02:12.964 to have holiday travel all through December as well. Nate, 0:02:13.004 --> 0:02:14.684 are you traveling for Thanksgiving this year? 0:02:15.404 --> 0:02:18.324 Yeah, going to Kansas City to see my partner's family. 0:02:19.524 --> 0:02:21.004 I got a lot of travel, my whole I got 0:02:21.044 --> 0:02:25.484 and then we're going to Vegas, then Japan, Korea at 0:02:25.484 --> 0:02:28.244 some point probably make it home to Michigan. So I 0:02:28.324 --> 0:02:30.924 need these tips, Maria. 0:02:31.364 --> 0:02:34.244 All Right, So we're going to actually do this segment 0:02:34.364 --> 0:02:38.444 in a slightly different fun way, I hope fun, and 0:02:38.524 --> 0:02:40.764 we're going to ask each other questions. Nate and I 0:02:40.844 --> 0:02:43.084 do not know what the questions are We have not 0:02:43.524 --> 0:02:46.804 seen each other's questions ahead of time, so this is 0:02:46.884 --> 0:02:49.804 going to be kind of a spur of the moment 0:02:50.404 --> 0:02:54.604 response to each other. Nate, Shall I start us off 0:02:54.604 --> 0:02:55.244 with our questions? 0:02:55.444 --> 0:02:56.524 How you start? Yeah? 0:02:56.604 --> 0:02:57.644 All right, all right? 0:02:57.724 --> 0:03:00.524 Question number one? How early should you get to the airport? 0:03:02.084 --> 0:03:04.204 Oh? Boy, Robbie and I my partner, are just having 0:03:04.244 --> 0:03:05.444 an argument about this today. 0:03:06.684 --> 0:03:08.844 I love it. Those are the best arguments. 0:03:09.804 --> 0:03:12.924 I aim. Traditionally, I aim to be at the airport 0:03:13.004 --> 0:03:17.044 an hour before departure time for a domestic flight. It's 0:03:17.084 --> 0:03:21.044 departure time, not boarding time. Now, in practice, like the 0:03:21.044 --> 0:03:24.684 security system has improved, I have like pre check. Actually 0:03:24.684 --> 0:03:26.764 don't have pre check, which is weird. Nate. 0:03:27.444 --> 0:03:30.764 Yeah, we need to talk about this. Okay, everyone listening. 0:03:31.124 --> 0:03:33.444 This is like the number one thing to do in 0:03:33.604 --> 0:03:38.524 gto travel, get tsa pre check, get global entry if 0:03:38.564 --> 0:03:42.604 you travel abroad. I am shocked that my co host 0:03:42.724 --> 0:03:44.524 could be so neglitch of Nate. 0:03:44.764 --> 0:03:47.484 Well, there are workarounds. Clear is pretty good. Clear is 0:03:47.524 --> 0:03:53.724 basically pre check. No I should I should? Yeah, I'm 0:03:53.764 --> 0:03:56.284 committing like the sunk cost. I'm committing lots of cognitive 0:03:56.404 --> 0:03:57.684 errors by not doing that. 0:03:57.724 --> 0:04:02.324 You're right, yes, all right, So without pre check, I 0:04:02.364 --> 0:04:05.004 would say, and without clear you should probably be getting 0:04:05.004 --> 0:04:08.964 to the airport earlier then one hour, right, especially around 0:04:08.964 --> 0:04:10.444 the holiday because the lines going. 0:04:10.444 --> 0:04:14.204 Maybe the holidays in particular. I mean, look, yeah, if 0:04:14.204 --> 0:04:17.284 you arrive at the airport an hour before departure time 0:04:17.884 --> 0:04:21.324 for a domestic flight, you should not miss your flight 0:04:21.404 --> 0:04:24.884 if you have, unless you're in like the cattle car 0:04:24.924 --> 0:04:28.404 line with no clear or no premium or anything like that. Right, 0:04:28.404 --> 0:04:30.684 you should be able to make it through on time. 0:04:30.964 --> 0:04:33.684 All right, Well, I actually happen to agree with you 0:04:33.724 --> 0:04:36.604 on this. One an hour is what I do as well. 0:04:36.684 --> 0:04:39.484 For domestic travel around the holidays, especially if you don't 0:04:39.484 --> 0:04:42.724 have tsa pre check like some people, you might want 0:04:42.764 --> 0:04:46.284 to consider longer. But if you are in that cattle 0:04:46.324 --> 0:04:49.004 line with no pre check, no anything, and you are 0:04:49.044 --> 0:04:52.084 cutting it close, come up to the agents and tell 0:04:52.084 --> 0:04:54.924 them what time your flight is. They will often let 0:04:54.924 --> 0:04:58.444 you skip the line and actually not miss your flight 0:04:58.484 --> 0:05:00.444 because they don't want you missing your flight either, because 0:05:00.484 --> 0:05:03.244 that fucks up travel for everyone. 0:05:03.764 --> 0:05:06.004 Maria, what is your best travel hack? 0:05:07.324 --> 0:05:11.684 My best travel hack is never checking luggage. And when 0:05:11.764 --> 0:05:16.724 I say never, I actually mean never I am a female, 0:05:16.924 --> 0:05:20.764 as people might have noticed, and I am capable of 0:05:20.804 --> 0:05:24.484 going on a month long trip, six week long trip 0:05:24.884 --> 0:05:28.044 with just carry ons. I have a carry on suitcase, 0:05:28.244 --> 0:05:30.644 a little you know, roller board which is the MAC size, 0:05:30.724 --> 0:05:33.004 and I have a backpack which has which is always 0:05:33.084 --> 0:05:36.884 my extra travel thing in the backpack fits a lot 0:05:36.924 --> 0:05:37.404 as well. 0:05:37.684 --> 0:05:38.764 And I am very. 0:05:38.684 --> 0:05:43.324 Very good at recycling outfits, at packing, you know, very 0:05:44.044 --> 0:05:48.164 packing very well, so that I can manage without any 0:05:48.204 --> 0:05:51.444 carry ons. I think this saves you huge amounts of time, 0:05:51.604 --> 0:05:54.524 huge amounts of hassle. I don't have a single friend 0:05:54.644 --> 0:05:57.244 or family member who has checked luggage who has not 0:05:57.324 --> 0:06:00.564 had it lost at some point. And yeah, so I 0:06:00.564 --> 0:06:02.764 think that that's the single best piece of advice I 0:06:02.804 --> 0:06:05.324 can offer. Learn to pack light, Do not check your 0:06:05.324 --> 0:06:07.124 bags if. 0:06:07.004 --> 0:06:09.204 You are going to an international destination and you have 0:06:09.204 --> 0:06:13.004 to your customs when you arrive. There's less cost to 0:06:13.044 --> 0:06:15.044 that because I mean, I'm generally agreeing, right, but like 0:06:15.324 --> 0:06:18.804 because there by the time you're through customs, magically your 0:06:18.844 --> 0:06:20.684 bags might be there at the little carousel. But yeah, 0:06:20.844 --> 0:06:23.884 I mean, the the risk of having your bag. I'm 0:06:23.924 --> 0:06:26.844 surprised that more strangers don't like steal people's bags. Right. 0:06:26.924 --> 0:06:29.644 It's it's so weird because you have all the security 0:06:29.644 --> 0:06:31.884 in the airport and then like you get to the 0:06:32.044 --> 0:06:35.444 carousel and like take your pick, tack whatever you want. 0:06:35.924 --> 0:06:39.604 So I am actually shocked that, you know, knowing what 0:06:39.644 --> 0:06:41.924 we know about human nature, I'm shocked that more bags 0:06:41.924 --> 0:06:45.124 don't get stolen. All right, Next question, Nate, what is 0:06:45.164 --> 0:06:49.524 your most underrated thing to always pack when you're traveling? 0:06:50.764 --> 0:06:52.004 A podcast? Microphone? 0:06:52.044 --> 0:06:56.164 Like, I okay, that's amazing. 0:06:56.884 --> 0:07:00.124 I usually bring a little bit of cash because you 0:07:00.204 --> 0:07:01.844 never know when you're gonna get bored and there might 0:07:01.844 --> 0:07:02.804 be a poker room nearby. 0:07:03.404 --> 0:07:06.164 M h, this is this is very good. That is 0:07:06.244 --> 0:07:08.804 that is very good advice. I think you should always 0:07:08.844 --> 0:07:10.404 have cash on you, and you should always have more 0:07:10.404 --> 0:07:11.404 cash than you think you need. 0:07:11.644 --> 0:07:12.964 Don't go over the limits. 0:07:14.524 --> 0:07:18.884 Well, the limits are internationally there's a ten thousand dollars limit. 0:07:19.364 --> 0:07:24.804 Domestically there's not supposed to be, although I've had a 0:07:24.804 --> 0:07:26.644 problem with it one So bestally, if you fly to 0:07:26.764 --> 0:07:30.204 like Vegas or New York, people are used to having 0:07:30.244 --> 0:07:31.924 a lot of cash in those cities. I don't know 0:07:31.924 --> 0:07:33.404 what people are doing with the cash in New York, 0:07:33.444 --> 0:07:36.364 but like you know, some some law off the records 0:07:36.364 --> 0:07:41.924 something or another. Yeah. I mean if an uninformed security 0:07:41.964 --> 0:07:44.004 person asks do you have more than ten thousand dollars, 0:07:44.044 --> 0:07:46.844 and you should say I'm allowed to because I'm American 0:07:46.884 --> 0:07:51.444 citizens is my currency and what you might call it, 0:07:51.524 --> 0:07:53.604 and like, I'm not flying internationally where these rules apply. 0:07:55.244 --> 0:07:57.444 Don't like try to bring fifty thousand dollars like the 0:07:57.444 --> 0:08:00.364 Bahamas or something. That's a really big mistake. 0:08:00.684 --> 0:08:02.204 That's a horrible mistake. Yep. 0:08:02.924 --> 0:08:05.684 So what's what's the best airport? What's your favorite airport? 0:08:07.044 --> 0:08:11.404 My favorite airport, I would say say is Heathrow because 0:08:11.644 --> 0:08:15.484 talk about nice places to hang out, nice places to eat. 0:08:16.244 --> 0:08:20.604 I don't think anything can beat Heathrow. I mean you can, yeah, 0:08:20.644 --> 0:08:20.964 you can. 0:08:20.924 --> 0:08:24.804 Do associate with like very very very long lines and 0:08:24.964 --> 0:08:25.684 very I hate. 0:08:25.764 --> 0:08:29.604 So here's the thing, So what's my most My favorite 0:08:29.604 --> 0:08:32.484 airport to travel through is absolutely not Heathrow. Right, he 0:08:32.604 --> 0:08:34.404 throws a nightmare in terms of lines. But if I 0:08:34.444 --> 0:08:36.044 have to be stuck in an airport, I want to 0:08:36.044 --> 0:08:39.124 be stuck in Heathrow because I can get good food, right, 0:08:39.204 --> 0:08:42.244 I can. I can go to the fucking caviar bar there. 0:08:42.844 --> 0:08:46.084 I can, you know, and there are good bookshops, which 0:08:46.124 --> 0:08:49.044 I really admit, Like, I really like that, and it's 0:08:49.084 --> 0:08:51.084 just it's nice, right. There are lots of places to 0:08:51.124 --> 0:08:55.684 spend time in terms of efficiency. Absolutely not Heathrow. I 0:08:55.724 --> 0:08:58.284 don't like traveling through Heathrow. I have heard so I 0:08:58.284 --> 0:09:00.244 haven't done a lot of travel through Asia, but I 0:09:00.284 --> 0:09:03.004 have heard that some of the best airports in the 0:09:03.044 --> 0:09:06.044 world are some of the Asian airports that are like 0:09:06.204 --> 0:09:10.884 many countries with you know, tropical rainforests. I look forward 0:09:10.924 --> 0:09:14.444 to visiting those one day. All right, Nate, let's let's 0:09:14.484 --> 0:09:16.884 do the other way. What's the most overrated airport? 0:09:18.884 --> 0:09:22.724 Uh? You know, I think La. I mean La. The 0:09:22.764 --> 0:09:25.044 problem is, like all these terminals are changing and turning 0:09:25.084 --> 0:09:27.364 around and so like I used to think there's some 0:09:27.484 --> 0:09:32.444 terminals in lax that are like quite annoying. Miami Airport 0:09:32.524 --> 0:09:35.804 is kind of a total shit show. Fort Lardale might 0:09:35.844 --> 0:09:38.004 be a little bit better, but then it takes over 0:09:38.044 --> 0:09:40.084 to get an uber. Yeah, those are on the Natelet 0:09:40.124 --> 0:09:42.844 you know, Phoenix is kind of a shitty airport. 0:09:43.964 --> 0:09:45.804 I'm gonna I'm going to add one that you haven't 0:09:45.844 --> 0:09:48.524 to the over rated airport, which is O'Hare because people 0:09:48.564 --> 0:09:51.444 always say that O'Hare is so, you know, lovely and efficient, 0:09:51.524 --> 0:09:54.124 But I think O'Hare is such a shit show. And 0:09:54.244 --> 0:09:56.604 I have never been delayed more often than I have 0:09:56.724 --> 0:09:57.444 been in O'Hare. 0:09:57.684 --> 0:09:59.204 Yeah, I used to. And again I can you blame 0:09:59.244 --> 0:10:01.324 airports for having I mean, they have two airlines that 0:10:01.364 --> 0:10:04.284 try to have hubs there, but like, yeah, and like 0:10:04.524 --> 0:10:07.084 the facilities have not been like updated O'Hare, No, they 0:10:07.084 --> 0:10:09.244 haven't a long time. They do have a Tortesse Fronterra, 0:10:09.444 --> 0:10:12.084 which is like this amazing Rick Bayliss restaurant, but like, 0:10:12.404 --> 0:10:14.724 but there's never any place to like sit down. And 0:10:14.764 --> 0:10:16.284 if you do have like one of those long winter 0:10:16.364 --> 0:10:18.444 delays in Chicago, then it's pretty unpleasant. 0:10:18.804 --> 0:10:21.124 It is, it is pretty unpleasant. And also talk about 0:10:21.124 --> 0:10:23.404 having to walk far Ohara is one of those airports 0:10:23.404 --> 0:10:26.044 where you might be walking for half an hour before 0:10:26.084 --> 0:10:28.044 you finally take it to your destination. 0:10:29.684 --> 0:10:31.964 Maria, what is your go to airport meal? 0:10:33.844 --> 0:10:37.404 My go to airport meal is I actually bring food 0:10:37.484 --> 0:10:41.244 with me? I refuse, so I never eat on planes. 0:10:41.764 --> 0:10:45.204 I don't care unless there are some exceptions, like when 0:10:45.324 --> 0:10:48.804 I fly to Hong Kong, right where I'm on a 0:10:48.844 --> 0:10:51.724 plane for so long that it's not even funny. Or 0:10:51.724 --> 0:10:54.844 when I, you know, when I fly to South Africa, 0:10:54.924 --> 0:10:57.684 like when I fly somewhere really really really far away. 0:10:58.044 --> 0:11:01.964 But otherwise I don't eat on airplanes. And that's actually, 0:11:02.204 --> 0:11:06.164 by the way, little tip from kind of the psychology 0:11:06.324 --> 0:11:09.284 of sleep and how to help your body adjust to 0:11:10.004 --> 0:11:12.404 time zones. I did a lot of research on this 0:11:12.484 --> 0:11:16.284 and spend some time with the best sleep researchers at 0:11:16.284 --> 0:11:18.964 Harvard for a fellowship. I did it at one point, 0:11:19.284 --> 0:11:21.804 and that's one of the best hacks that you can 0:11:22.284 --> 0:11:25.004 have in order to transition and to not be jet 0:11:25.044 --> 0:11:27.484 lagged is do not eat on the airplane, but do 0:11:27.724 --> 0:11:32.444 drink a lot. So I usually will get sushi actually 0:11:32.724 --> 0:11:35.684 ahead of time and will bring sushi because I like 0:11:35.724 --> 0:11:38.444 to eat something really nice and light and. 0:11:38.444 --> 0:11:40.444 Eat it at the air Allow take that through security. 0:11:40.724 --> 0:11:44.604 Yeah, you can absolutely take sushi through security. That's it's 0:11:44.644 --> 0:11:45.644 not a liquid. 0:11:46.724 --> 0:11:51.164 It's liquid sauce. About the soy sauce, you don't. 0:11:50.964 --> 0:11:52.884 Have to eat so the soy sauce I've actually never 0:11:52.924 --> 0:11:54.924 had a problem with. But if you do have a 0:11:54.964 --> 0:11:58.364 problem and they confiscate your soy sauce, there is always 0:11:58.444 --> 0:11:59.364 soy sauce. 0:11:59.604 --> 0:12:03.044 And the Panda Express exactly just just. 0:12:03.084 --> 0:12:06.164 Go go somewhere in the airport and get soy sauce. 0:12:06.284 --> 0:12:09.364 But I recommend eat light, no carbs, do not eat pea. 0:12:09.404 --> 0:12:13.164 It's the worst mistake I ever made was at one 0:12:13.204 --> 0:12:17.244 point eating a Hamburger in a Boston airport because I 0:12:17.284 --> 0:12:20.564 was really really hungry and I was so suck So 0:12:20.724 --> 0:12:23.804 do not do that. 0:12:23.524 --> 0:12:25.964 Yeah, that's that's my that's funny thing. 0:12:26.124 --> 0:12:29.564 But I think airports is like the best setting for 0:12:29.684 --> 0:12:31.964 like fast food, right, Like I want like a Wendy's 0:12:32.604 --> 0:12:35.244 or some shit, and not some weird off brand Hamburger 0:12:35.924 --> 0:12:38.404 restaurant that probably sucks, right, like the one time when 0:12:38.404 --> 0:12:40.804 you want logistics of like serving people food quickly. I 0:12:40.804 --> 0:12:43.204 mean I agree about like even if you're in business 0:12:43.204 --> 0:12:49.004 class or something, it's just very hard to prepare good 0:12:49.764 --> 0:12:52.604 airline food for like a mass audience unless you get 0:12:52.604 --> 0:12:56.244 to the real high end luxury market Emirates or one 0:12:56.244 --> 0:12:59.644 of the Asian airlines or whatnot. Yeah, people have this 0:12:59.724 --> 0:13:04.044 like sunk cost fallacy of oh, I'm getting this free 0:13:04.044 --> 0:13:07.164 meal because I'm flying business and you actually a lot 0:13:07.204 --> 0:13:09.164 of time you're better off just sleeping or doing what 0:13:09.404 --> 0:13:12.924 I'll be reading, drinking, et cetera, and like, have your 0:13:12.924 --> 0:13:16.204 meal first, you'll have a better meal almost for sure. 0:13:16.644 --> 0:13:18.924 Yeah, I'm so glad you agree with me. Yes, it 0:13:19.004 --> 0:13:21.524 is crazy to me that there are so many people 0:13:21.564 --> 0:13:25.444 who fly first class business class, who have the money 0:13:25.444 --> 0:13:27.564 to pay for that ticket, who are like, ooh, free food. 0:13:27.884 --> 0:13:29.924 Right, that doesn't change from college. 0:13:30.124 --> 0:13:32.564 Right, free food. You want to get the free food. 0:13:32.724 --> 0:13:34.684 It's much better for your body. It's much better for you. 0:13:34.724 --> 0:13:39.124 It's much tastier if you don't do that, Nate, when 0:13:39.164 --> 0:13:42.244 you go into a new city, what's the most underrated 0:13:42.244 --> 0:13:42.644 thing to do? 0:13:43.924 --> 0:13:46.124 I mean, I just am a big walker. I walk 0:13:46.204 --> 0:13:52.364 around a lot, right. I hate being confined to a hotel. Yeah, 0:13:52.444 --> 0:13:54.204 you know, I'll look up. I'll look up, do a 0:13:54.204 --> 0:13:57.604 little scouting, do some restaurant. Yeah, work, you know, I'm 0:13:57.604 --> 0:14:02.324 trying to find cuisines, like, for example, the Vietnamese food 0:14:02.964 --> 0:14:05.244 tends to be better on the West Coast and in 0:14:05.564 --> 0:14:08.564 New York and so that's a comparative advantage category for example, 0:14:08.924 --> 0:14:14.804 or you know tacos in La or Texas. So yeah, 0:14:15.124 --> 0:14:17.004 take an uber or something to like a fun neighborhood, 0:14:17.044 --> 0:14:18.404 have some tacos and then walk around. 0:14:18.964 --> 0:14:21.764 I'm totally with you, and I actually love traveling with you, Nate, 0:14:21.804 --> 0:14:24.004 because you and I both love food and you are 0:14:24.004 --> 0:14:27.124 always up for culinary adventures, and that is something that 0:14:27.244 --> 0:14:30.604 I really appreciate. Walking and then and then having some 0:14:30.644 --> 0:14:32.444 good food. Is I think the best thing to do 0:14:32.484 --> 0:14:34.844 in a new city. I don't know how underrated it is, 0:14:34.924 --> 0:14:35.924 but it's wonderful. 0:14:37.324 --> 0:14:39.524 What's the best place to kill time in an airport? 0:14:39.564 --> 0:14:42.924 Is there any scenario, let's say, and let's exclude any 0:14:42.964 --> 0:14:47.044 type of exclusive lounges or anything like that, right, think 0:14:47.084 --> 0:14:49.644 about any airport and now let's say, oh, your flight's 0:14:49.644 --> 0:14:51.644 been delayed for an hour and a half. Is there 0:14:51.644 --> 0:14:53.164 any airport where you're like, Oh, actually, I'm kind of 0:14:53.164 --> 0:14:54.604 happy about that because I get to hang out in 0:14:54.684 --> 0:14:55.244 place X. 0:14:56.124 --> 0:15:00.924 No, I'm never happy about place that is absolutely not happening. 0:15:01.364 --> 0:15:03.644 But if you don't have a good book, I would say, 0:15:03.684 --> 0:15:06.084 go to the bookstore, pick up a good book and 0:15:06.404 --> 0:15:09.644 get lost in it. That's that's the best thing I 0:15:09.644 --> 0:15:14.364 can think of. Otherwise, if you if you're with someone 0:15:14.604 --> 0:15:17.244 and your flight is really delayed, get some alcohol and 0:15:17.364 --> 0:15:20.884 get some get some food, and just pretend you're not 0:15:21.004 --> 0:15:25.044 stuck in the airport, but be careful with that because 0:15:25.284 --> 0:15:28.124 you also don't want to be dehydrated and drunk when 0:15:28.124 --> 0:15:31.684 you get onto the plane. So that's a that's a 0:15:31.724 --> 0:15:33.804 short term solution. No more than one drink. 0:15:34.684 --> 0:15:36.444 Yeah, I don't. I don't pledge to bye By that. 0:15:37.524 --> 0:15:41.844 That's fine, that's fine. When you rent a car, do 0:15:41.884 --> 0:15:42.644 you get insurance? 0:15:43.564 --> 0:15:47.364 I don't have a license, Yeah, there you go. 0:15:47.844 --> 0:15:50.364 And I didn't have I didn't know how to drive 0:15:50.524 --> 0:15:53.004 up until a few years ago and I just learned. So, 0:15:53.364 --> 0:15:55.924 but I have heard that rental car insurance is a scam, 0:15:56.004 --> 0:15:56.884 so I never parted it. 0:15:57.004 --> 0:16:01.524 I'm I really think that rental cars are pretty often 0:16:01.564 --> 0:16:04.284 not worth it. I mean, you know, even down into 0:16:04.324 --> 0:16:08.564 like the kind of small to medium size metro areas, 0:16:09.844 --> 0:16:11.404 the uber is pretty good and people have just like 0:16:11.444 --> 0:16:14.084 Fallacy where love you're like, oh, I have to pay 0:16:14.124 --> 0:16:17.364 marginally for these Uber or lyft rides when like Brunnea 0:16:17.404 --> 0:16:19.324 car can be pretty expensive. There is insurance. I've had 0:16:19.364 --> 0:16:22.284 rental cars that I wasn't dragging myself broken into and 0:16:22.324 --> 0:16:24.924 things like that, and like, yeah, yeah, I'm very anti 0:16:24.964 --> 0:16:26.924 rental car and it takes a long time to return 0:16:27.044 --> 0:16:29.084 the car, and like, oh, I mean there's something if 0:16:29.124 --> 0:16:30.924 you're like a national park or something you have to 0:16:31.244 --> 0:16:34.524 but like usually should be avoided. 0:16:34.924 --> 0:16:38.244 Yeah, I'm with you in cities unless you really need it, 0:16:38.524 --> 0:16:40.244 no rental cars, totally agree. 0:16:41.684 --> 0:16:44.964 What is the median amount of airline credit you require 0:16:45.044 --> 0:16:46.204 to be bumped off your flight? 0:16:48.244 --> 0:16:50.724 A million? I would never. 0:16:51.164 --> 0:16:54.684 I mean I book my travel because I need to 0:16:54.724 --> 0:16:56.884 get places and I need to get shit done, and 0:16:56.924 --> 0:16:58.804 you are not getting me off my flight. I'm sorry, 0:16:59.564 --> 0:17:03.124 I'm not getting bumped to the next day. I hate delays. 0:17:03.564 --> 0:17:06.164 I mean, let me rephrase. If there's a flight in 0:17:06.204 --> 0:17:10.084 like twenty minutes, sure you can bump me, but usually 0:17:10.084 --> 0:17:12.484 that's not the case. Right, Whenever they're offering a lot 0:17:12.484 --> 0:17:15.204 of money, that means that you're going to be bumped 0:17:15.284 --> 0:17:18.644 you know, that evening or the next day or something 0:17:18.764 --> 0:17:21.044 horrible like that, And to me, it's just not worth it, Like, 0:17:21.084 --> 0:17:23.084 there's my time is more valuable. 0:17:23.964 --> 0:17:25.764 You don't think people are a little bit irrational about that. 0:17:26.924 --> 0:17:29.644 I think that some people will irrationally accept any amount 0:17:29.644 --> 0:17:32.324 of money because they're like, ooh money, awesome, that's great. 0:17:33.164 --> 0:17:35.564 But when like I said, when I book my travel, 0:17:35.604 --> 0:17:39.644 like I don't like traveling, and like I like being places, 0:17:39.684 --> 0:17:42.004 but I don't like the process of travel, and I 0:17:42.124 --> 0:17:46.044 usually do it with you know, without that much margin 0:17:46.084 --> 0:17:50.604 of error, in the sense that I need to be 0:17:50.724 --> 0:17:53.804 somewhere by a specific time and that's where I'm going, 0:17:54.644 --> 0:17:57.084 And even if it's vacation, like I want to start 0:17:57.124 --> 0:17:59.724 my vacation. I don't want to spend another day in 0:17:59.764 --> 0:18:02.724 whatever city I'm in. If you give me, like there 0:18:02.764 --> 0:18:04.604 is an amount of money, like if you give me 0:18:04.684 --> 0:18:06.964 thousands of dollars, Like if you give me five K, 0:18:08.364 --> 0:18:11.324 I'll probably be okay with being bumped on a flight 0:18:11.364 --> 0:18:13.084 if I'm going on vacation, right, if you give me 0:18:13.084 --> 0:18:15.404 an amount of money that pays for my vacation, like sure, 0:18:15.644 --> 0:18:18.404 and you give it to me in cash, But oftentimes 0:18:18.844 --> 0:18:21.684 that's often not the case. Either it's like travel credit 0:18:21.844 --> 0:18:24.804 or some bullshit where you're not actually getting the money. 0:18:24.884 --> 0:18:26.484 And by the way, no one's paying you five K 0:18:27.044 --> 0:18:29.204 like that that is an outlandish amount. 0:18:29.444 --> 0:18:31.684 Do any airport to have poker rooms? I'm looking this up. 0:18:31.804 --> 0:18:35.244 I guess not right, I have no idea, but that's hilarious. 0:18:36.444 --> 0:18:40.484 While you're looking up poker rooms business class versus first class. 0:18:42.764 --> 0:18:43.644 Versus first class. 0:18:43.684 --> 0:18:46.244 I mean, these days, I think it's basically the same thing. 0:18:47.324 --> 0:18:49.324 There are so many funny distinct I mean, you have 0:18:49.364 --> 0:18:52.284 to know the airline and the route, right, if you 0:18:52.324 --> 0:18:55.084 really care about this stuff, then, like I mean, I like, 0:18:55.164 --> 0:18:59.364 there's only there's only so many things an airline can 0:18:59.444 --> 0:19:05.204 ultimately provide you with, right even until you get to, like, 0:19:05.204 --> 0:19:07.284 like I said, the very top tier first classes. Like 0:19:08.444 --> 0:19:10.284 you know, if you have a bid you can recline. 0:19:10.604 --> 0:19:11.884 I mean, I know, I guess you have like the 0:19:11.964 --> 0:19:15.324 private suites, but you're getting mediocre free food. You're getting 0:19:16.284 --> 0:19:18.564 as much freebooze as you want, but you maybe don't 0:19:18.604 --> 0:19:20.844 want that much, and you're getting a seat that you 0:19:20.884 --> 0:19:24.004 can fully recline in. Then I don't know. Beyond that, 0:19:24.444 --> 0:19:27.324 I tend to think that like there's diminishing returns on 0:19:27.364 --> 0:19:28.684 the amends that you get. 0:19:28.924 --> 0:19:30.804 But yeah, totally agree with you. 0:19:30.844 --> 0:19:32.524 I did, what's take a shower in a plane? I 0:19:32.564 --> 0:19:36.964 got bumped up, bumped up on Emirates flying back from Dangkok, 0:19:37.164 --> 0:19:38.004 and that was pretty cool. 0:19:38.484 --> 0:19:40.364 All right, do you have any more questions for me? 0:19:41.644 --> 0:19:43.524 Worst travel decision you've ever made? 0:19:44.684 --> 0:19:47.244 Worst travel decision I've ever made. I think I kind 0:19:47.244 --> 0:19:51.404 of already answered this, and that was checking bags on 0:19:51.444 --> 0:19:55.564 my way to Georgia. But other than checking bags, I 0:19:55.564 --> 0:19:58.444 think that you have to be really, really careful with 0:19:58.484 --> 0:20:02.724 your layovers, and sometimes you make really shitty decisions without 0:20:02.724 --> 0:20:05.444 realizing it because there's an airport that's known for a delay, 0:20:05.764 --> 0:20:08.524 or the airline will let you book a flight where 0:20:08.564 --> 0:20:11.164 the layovers just way too tight, and if you don't 0:20:11.164 --> 0:20:14.364 know the airport, you're fucked. Like I once had Delta 0:20:14.484 --> 0:20:17.164 allow me to book an international flight and it was 0:20:17.324 --> 0:20:20.844 not direct, it was through Atlanta, and I think my 0:20:20.884 --> 0:20:23.684 connection was thirty minutes long something like that. I have 0:20:23.884 --> 0:20:26.684 no idea why they let me do that. And if 0:20:26.764 --> 0:20:30.284 you've been to the Atlanta airport, like Atlanta has multiple terminals, 0:20:30.324 --> 0:20:33.644 like you have to take a little tram in between them, 0:20:34.044 --> 0:20:38.364 like that, shit ate fast and I missed an international 0:20:38.364 --> 0:20:41.604 connection and I didn't do anything wrong, like Delta let 0:20:41.604 --> 0:20:44.844 me book this, but it was just way not enough time. 0:20:45.004 --> 0:20:47.724 And I think that paying attention to that is actually 0:20:47.804 --> 0:20:51.844 really important, and sometimes you don't because you just assume 0:20:51.924 --> 0:20:53.764 that an airline is not going to let you book 0:20:54.004 --> 0:20:56.844