1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to everybody to a Wednesday edition of Texans All Access. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris, football analysts and silid reporter 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: for your Houston Texans, and we have got a ton 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: for you tonight. We're gonna kick off the show here 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: in just a little bit with a little in the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: lab that Drew and I did talking about unheralded players 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: the Texans have had that have made a significant impact 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: even if they were underappreciated, if you will. Then in 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: our second segment, we're gonna have Drew dolready stopped by. 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: He's got a number of Drew's dozen. He sits down 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: with a number of players and pokes and prods and 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: ask the questions really only well Drew can ask, to 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: be honest with you, and then we'll finish up going 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: around the league. But like I said, we're gonna kick 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: off tonight's show with a little discussion that we had 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: motivated by former Texans Sean Cody John. We are about 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: a month away from training camp beginning maybe a month 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: four or five days be fun. There will be about 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,919 Speaker 1: seven open practices for fans. That announcement of which dates 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: specifically that's coming out in the next few weeks, but 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: gonna be some open practices. Should be cool. I haven't 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: had that since twenty nineteen. There's gonna be a night 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: practice too, we think, which we haven't seen since twenty 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: fifteen when HBO cameras were here. So looking forward to that. 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: There's a different it's a different type of heat later 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: in the day, and I like it better. It's not 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: as human typically in the afternoon as opposed to during 28 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: the morning. But you know, hearkening back a few hours ago, 29 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 1: I did a one on one zoom with our good 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: pal Sean Cody the Nose Tackle, and it's part of 31 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: a series where we've started up. It's called where Are 32 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: They Now? John? Excuse me. Mark caught up with Tony 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: Banks about a week or so ago. I had some 34 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: fun stuff from him, so I thought I would talk 35 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: to Cody in a year. Let's get him going. It's 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: been too long, and we had a nice conversation. It 37 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: was really really fun to hear from him, as as 38 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised to hear, and I'm sure 39 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: you won't either. The guy is going to be opening 40 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: a restaurant soon. He completed a restaurant management training program 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: which is awesome, and he's gonna be doing that. He 42 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: also is the color commentator for USC football on the radio, 43 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: just started doing that last year, and he was doing 44 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: radio stuff with USC before that. But uh, it was 45 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: it was good to see him, good to hear from him. 46 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: And we'll have that whole conversation up on the website 47 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: and on the mobile app here soon. But it's always 48 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: fun talking to Sean Cody. John. Yeah, you I'm a 49 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: little envious in some sense that you got to spend 50 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: time with Sean Cody and I didn't get into the 51 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: building until after he was gone, and the fears that 52 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: he was here. I was actually doing overnight radio, so 53 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: I was on a completely different life plan. He will 54 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: then ninety eight ninety nine percent of the living the 55 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: people living in the United States at that point. I mean, 56 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: third shift is not it's not for the faint of heart. 57 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: Point being, I'm always envious when you talk about Cody 58 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: because I always feel like he is one of them. 59 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: He's maybe got one of the greatest personalities I've seen 60 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: if anybody come through this building. Yeah, just listen to 61 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: you talk about him. Seeing on the nose. I mean, 62 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: he was, he was perfect, and he was destined for 63 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: something in media. We knew that had a feeling. But 64 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: I love the fact that he's connected with USC. It's 65 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: funny because that's how a lot of guys I connect 66 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: back to is because of their college days. And I 67 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: just think back to when Kennecchi, Dasi and Sean Cody, 68 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: We're all on the offensive line to get defensive line, 69 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: the wild Bunch two at USC. I mean, it was 70 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: really a fun group to watch that he comes in 71 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: the league, and I always remembered him because he always 72 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: had a big se tattoo on his arm. It always 73 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: stood out to me. And he was just Afterdan Coody, right, 74 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: it stood for soily California. But but he would just 75 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: made it worked either way. I mean, it worked either way, 76 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: which which I think is hilarious. But he was also 77 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: I felt like one of the more under harold, under haralded, underappreciated, 78 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: underrated players the Texas have had in their history. Look, 79 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: we've talked about the Mario Williams Is, the Dejandre Hopkins 80 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: and JJ Watson, Dwayne Brown's over all these years, but 81 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: there's always a group of players that we know, look, 82 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: they're not going to get these things done. Without these guys. 83 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: These are the guys you don't hear a lot about. Luckily, 84 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: for Cody, we did get to hear from him because 85 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: he was so good with a mic in front of him. 86 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: He was so good with the camera, so we did 87 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: get to hear from him. But I don't think people 88 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: truly voiced how much they appreciated his play and how 89 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: valuable he was to the Texas defense in those glory years. 90 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: However you want to call it, but he was incredibly valuable. 91 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: And I'm glad you got a chance to catch up 92 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: with him. And hopefully we'll hear that on radio someday. 93 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: If not, we're definitely gonna hear on the podcast for sure. 94 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: Well you canna hear on both. It's funny bringing up 95 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: unheralded because it wasn't until he got to the NFL 96 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: that he became unheralded. I mean he was. He was 97 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: the P twelve Pac twelve Defensive Player of the Year, 98 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: the year he was a captain of their national championship squad. 99 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: I mean he was the alpha dog. I mean he 100 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: when he was coming out of high school. Yea. Pete 101 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: Carroll got him to commit to USC and it was 102 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: an upset at the time, people thought Cody was gonna 103 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: get Notre Dame, and Cody kind of started a wave 104 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: of really high talent, high end talent coming into Southern 105 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: cal and they were able to, you know, capitalize and 106 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: win that title and play for a few others. But yeah, 107 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: he got here, and I mean I think he was. 108 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: He was injured coming into the league, so you never 109 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: saw like what you'd seen from him in college. But 110 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: he's still very, very valuable, like you bring bring up, 111 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: And that's kind of what we're talking about today when 112 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: each shit chat about two or three unheralded, underappreciated Texans, 113 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,039 Speaker 1: I think by the the fan base and maybe the 114 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: media at large. I think their teammates appreciated what they did. 115 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: And Cody played nose tackle. You could probably put every 116 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: single nose tackle who ever ever played into that conversation 117 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: because those guys are universally respected by their teammates for 118 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: all the dirty work they do. But so you got Cody, 119 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: and there's this is not a scientific ranking by any means. 120 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: This is just the guys who come to our mind. 121 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: You say Cody, I'm gonna say a tight end who 122 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: basically if you take Owen Daniels out of the equation. 123 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: He leads the Texans tight ends historically and just about 124 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: every category. It's Joel Dreeson. That guy was. He was 125 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: very solid, you know, always filled in and a pinch 126 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's very very capable. The times that Owen 127 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: Daniels was injured, he could long snap for you, which 128 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: he did a bit in two thousand and nine. I 129 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: think there was because he did it and a few 130 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: other guys did it that season. Texans wanted some stability, 131 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: so that offseason they brought in John Weeks. But in 132 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: the meanwhile, he handled his business and did a good 133 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: job with it. But Dreeson was a guy who really 134 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: added a lot to this team. He was a good 135 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: teammate off the field, he kind of, you know, broke 136 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: things up in the locker room. He was actually the 137 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: original choice to be the host on the Nose and 138 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: we would have called it something differently, but Greason was like, no, 139 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm I got to be focused on my play. I've 140 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: got to take care of business. Cody just has to 141 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: focus on the A gap in the B gap and 142 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: that's it. So that was his joke. But man, you 143 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: look back at the stats, as I pull him up 144 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: here on Pro Football Reference dot Com, you know, Dreson 145 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: was very I will forever remember Dreson just being butt naked, 146 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: wide open off those those rollouts off of a play 147 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: action pass that we saw so many times with the 148 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak offense, and a lot of times it felt 149 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: like he was the beneficiary of that. You know, he 150 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: comes in the league in twenty two thousand and five 151 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: with the Jets, but he's out of football in six 152 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: or six. He doesn't play in OH six. But from 153 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: seven through eleven he was here with the Texas. It's 154 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: five seasons and he would average out with US twelve 155 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: point six yards a catch. That's good. He had thirteen 156 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: touchdown catches in those those five seasons, six of them 157 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, the year Owen Daniels was out a 158 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: little bit. Actually he was in an all year, but 159 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: that was a year Andre Johnson was out and Arian Foster. 160 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: They were out a lot and they missed a lot 161 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: of time, so you really relied on the tight ends 162 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: that you're in. Dreeson and Daniels helped carry the load. 163 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: But I'm going with Joel Greeson is one of my 164 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: undervalued underappreciated by the community at large, not necessarily within 165 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: the team guys, and underappreciated at the mic. We used 166 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: to have him at a former radio station that I 167 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: was on. We had a three man rotation between David Anderson, 168 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: Tim Bowman, and Joel and some of the best radio 169 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: we did was with j D and with David and Bowman. 170 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Bowman was so underappreciated from I mean, he 171 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: was so funny and but just I don't think he's 172 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: been around here long enough. My my next one is 173 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: a guy that I love coming out of college. I 174 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: was shocked when he went in the seventh round and 175 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: it was the very first draft that I was in 176 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: the building four and I was shocking when the seventh 177 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: round and I'll never forget getting him on for an 178 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: interview that day. Drey Howe was just yea. His run 179 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: of emotion was just all over the place because he 180 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: was ticked that it took so long. When he was 181 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: excited because it was Houston. He was excited to be drafted, 182 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: but then he was like, I'm gonna show everybody that 183 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: passed on me. And so in twenty fourteen as a rookie, 184 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: they kept him at corners. What he played at Vanderbilt 185 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: played him at corner. In twenty fifteen, he transitioned over 186 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: to safety and that's when it really kind of took 187 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: off for him. Now. I do think at corner he 188 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: probably could have been a solid player. But moving over 189 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: to safety, with his ball skills, his smarts, his tackling ability, 190 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: he just made I mean, big play after big play. 191 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I think about in twenty fifteen 192 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: going to Jacksonville. I've got the photo, you know, blown 193 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: up and hung up on my wall his pick six 194 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: at Jacksonville. But he had a pick earlier in the 195 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: game down on the goal line the other way that 196 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: saved a touchdown, So he had two picks in that game. 197 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: He has the pick six in twenty sixteen, when the 198 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: Texans are making a comeback against the Colts on a 199 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: Sunday night, he had a huge sack of Andrew Luck 200 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: after Lamar Miller's amazing touchdown, which talking about underappreciated and 201 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: where we talk about the game always forget about Lamar 202 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: Millers touchdown was amazing. Andre how I think on a 203 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: second or a third down, came up and sacked Luck 204 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: and it forced the Colts to have to punt back 205 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: to the Sexans. They then were able to score with CJ. 206 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: Fedora whitz down the sea him and tie the game. 207 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: But it was Andre how making that big play. And 208 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: you know, twenty eighteen when we went to Jacksonville. It's 209 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: interesting because it eventually was overshadowed by Sean going on 210 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: the bus. But Andre hollis playing in his first game 211 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: since overcoming cancer, and I'll never forget. I was about 212 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: thirty seconds from doing my pregame hit with the guys 213 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: back in studio, and he started jogging around the field 214 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: and I caught his eye, he caught mine, and we 215 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: both just kind of smiled, and I just gave him 216 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: the biggest hug, just like, man, this is so cool. 217 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: But I don't really we really appreciated how good and 218 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: steady he was, and we really missed him when he left, 219 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: when he decided to walk away from the game of 220 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I mean, we just we really really missed 221 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: having him in the back end because I think Andre 222 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: Howe with Justin Reid in particular, would have made for 223 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: a pretty solid combination in twenty nineteen for sure, and 224 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: it probably would have saved some of the issues that 225 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: we've had a safety since. So I think Andre Hawe 226 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: definitely fits that category. Under unheralded, I keep saying underhralded, sorry, underappreciated, unheralded. 227 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: I think Andre how fits in that category. But he 228 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: will never be underappreciated by this guy flapping his gums 229 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: right now, because I loved him. He was great and 230 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: he's a good one. Okay, I'm gonna go with a 231 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: one year guy. He played here two years. But in 232 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, before this guy got to town, 233 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: the Texans were really they were reeling defensively. I mean 234 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: it was it was a bloodbath. They gave up in 235 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: the first game, they gave up twenty four points to 236 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: the Jets, they only scored seven. Then the next week 237 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: they went on the road and one, but they gave 238 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: up thirty one. Come back home, they give up thirty 239 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: one to the Jags and lose. And I think he 240 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: got there the next week or the week after. And 241 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Bernard Pollard. So that two thousand and 242 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: nine season, he was really good for the Texans. His 243 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: first game played was against Oakland because he was inactive 244 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: against Jacksonville, but they brought him in from he'd been 245 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs to start his career. But he comes in, 246 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: gets four tackles, five total, really, and then he just 247 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: sort of takes off once November rules around double digit 248 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: knackles in you know. Then you know, four of the 249 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: final seven or eight games, gets four interceptions. The rest 250 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: of the way forces some fumbles. He blocked a field goal. 251 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: I believe a Miami really made an impact. And you 252 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: know he was. He was very good that season for 253 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: the Texans. Didn't go well for him in twenty didn't 254 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: go out for a lot of guys the next year, yea, 255 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: and Ard Pollard was He was a key reason and 256 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: one of the reasons, not the main one, but certainly 257 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: an important reason that the Texans were able to get 258 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: over the hump and get to five hundred from OA 259 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: to oh nine, because that was the first year that 260 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: they got to five hundred. He was a big reason 261 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: why they were. They were bleeding a lot defensively, and 262 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: he got better the rest of the way once he 263 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: got to town. Yeah. He boy, he was fearless. Yeah, 264 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: I mean he was. He was fearless at the mic too. 265 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he mind saying to ruffle some feathers I 266 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: find it interesting that we've all we've gone on the 267 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. Um because I had I 268 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: had another guy that I was going to say on 269 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: the on the now you did go Joel Greeson, but um, 270 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, talking about Sean Cody Andre Howe, who's your third? 271 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: My next one was actually it was gonna be Quintin 272 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: Demps because yeah, I think QD. QD was fantastic. And 273 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: it was funny because I remember twenty fifteen, so he 274 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: had been here then left, and I that kind of 275 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: bridge the gap between me being here, so I get 276 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: here in fourteen, he gets back in fifteen. So I 277 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: think it was like the third week of training camp. 278 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: He comes in and he can tell there in the 279 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: first four or five days like, wow, he's got a 280 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: shot to make this team, not only to make this team, 281 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: to be a player on his team. And then he 282 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: made big plays throughout. I mean he forced the fumble 283 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football against the Bengals on AJ green 284 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: U late in the game that got the ball back 285 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: to the Texans so they could solidify that win. I mean, 286 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: he you know, had and then the picks. My goodness, 287 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: he just went off the next couple of years with Picks. 288 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: He could be a little surly, but if you got 289 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: to normal. But I remember one time I said, I 290 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: sit up and I can't remember what it was. Oh, 291 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: I know what it was. I had mentioned something about 292 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: adding to the safety group, not adding because it was 293 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: taking somebody away, or that the safety group was bad. 294 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: I just think they needed some death. And so I 295 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: wrote something about it, and he found in the locker 296 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: room and made a comment to me about it. I 297 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, so I'm gonna I won't say that one, 298 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: even though I just talked about him. I think a 299 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: guy that stepped in the offensive line that I used 300 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: to love, and he played hurt so often Mike Brizel. 301 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: It's so, you know, we all know about Chester, and 302 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: we know about Dwayne, and you know Chris Myers. There's 303 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: so many people that we know about from that offensive line. 304 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: But to me, Brizell was kind of the glue that 305 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: held it together. He was tough, but he was really 306 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: really good in the zone game, and man, he would 307 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: cut the backside, which you can't do much of that 308 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: stuff anymore. But back then, it's so funny to go 309 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: back and watch a Texans game and you just see 310 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: guys defensive linement feet flying in the air. Lineman go there. 311 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: You don't see that, and you can't really do it anymore. 312 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: But he was so good, I mean so good between 313 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: Winston and Myers, and I feel like he was unheralded. 314 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: I do think that he was appreciated. I think people 315 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: did appreciate what he brought, but I think they talked 316 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: about the offensive line and he's like, oh yeah, Myers 317 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: and Winston, and I think he was always the guy 318 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: that was forgotten. Yeah, in some sense. And it just 319 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: kind of coincided with Dwayne's game going to a different level, 320 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: Waite Smith going to a different level, and then Brizelle 321 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: stepping in there and doing the things that he did. 322 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: I thought he was I thought he was fantastic. So 323 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Mike Brizell and under my breath, Quitton depths. 324 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: That's a good one, you know. And Brazelle also he 325 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: got hurt by that. As far as people remembering he 326 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: got hurt, he was injured a few times and so 327 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: he would miss he missed chunks of games and there 328 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: begins like Charles White in their for him. So you know, 329 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: when he was in there though, that that five man 330 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: unit of Brown, Wade Smith, Chris Myers, Brizell, and Winston, 331 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: that's the best offensive line this team's ever had. So 332 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: that's what the that's what the standard is, at least 333 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: for the Texans that they're trying to get back to 334 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: im and surpassed. But yeah, that eleven unit and for 335 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: part of ten as well, was a good one. I'm 336 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: gonna stick with the offensive line. Let go with the 337 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: guy who's still playing. And he was drafted out of 338 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: Georgia the draft after the Texans had first gone to 339 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs. So the twenty twelve draft. UM didn't think 340 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: nobody caught too much of him. He was a fourth 341 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: round pick, ninety ninth player overall, a Bib County, Alabama. 342 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: We're talking about Ben Jones. Ben Jones comes in and 343 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: you know early on, that's the guy that he drank 344 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: a water a cup of spa, you know of hot 345 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: tub water on a dare, and he ate a cockroach 346 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: on a dare and he walked around on his bare feet. 347 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: Still does pregame on the grass. So he's just kind 348 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: of the the goofy country kid. I remember one time 349 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: I was trying to interview him for like the second time, 350 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: and he's like, I can't talk to you. And I 351 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: was like, what do you mean I can't talk. He's like, 352 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: because they find me every time I'm on camera because 353 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: it's something stupid I say because of my accent. And 354 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: so he was always he was always there was always 355 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: something funny to him. But then the season comes around. 356 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: He played in every single game he started. He wound 357 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: up starting ten of them at right guard because you know, 358 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: the Texas were still trying to figure things out. And 359 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: for that season he was a starter at right guard 360 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: and Derek Newton was a starter at right tackle. And 361 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: it was Newton's second year. It was his first year 362 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: to really start because Newton had just been a jumbo 363 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: package guy yeh, or special teams guy. But that right 364 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: side of the line they held. The line for the 365 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: right side for the most part wasn't as good obviously 366 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: as the Winston Brizel Kamba, but there they were so 367 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 1: young and they were still good. The next year is 368 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, starts once plays a lot. Twenty fourteen, they 369 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: switched him over to the left side because Chris Myers 370 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: is still there. He played every game, starts every game 371 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: at left guard, fifteen rolls around, starts every game at center, 372 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: So he basically played all three interior spots with Shoot 373 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: forty two starts and you know, three seasons of playing 374 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: a whole lot. I mean, he was really good. He 375 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: was really valuable. And I know he's he's not Bruce Matthews, 376 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: but he started every single game since twenty sixteens when 377 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: when he signed with Tennessee at center. I mean, this 378 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: is a valuable guy. He's coming up on his tenth 379 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: year in the league. Wow, really good player. He was 380 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: so much fun brilliant, brilliant mind. I mean, just whip 381 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: smart both football and off the field. Really funny guy. 382 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: He's he's one of my underappreciated guys. You could use 383 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: and you could use a guy like that around still. 384 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: So Ben Jones he's one of my first he's my 385 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: final choice there. That's a great point. And as camouflage, 386 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: shoot that matches on road trips. Yeah, was at it 387 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: this at a completely different level. Well, that's a that's 388 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: really really that's a good one. It's funny because I 389 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't come up with these skill players. 390 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: When you mentioned Joel, I should say skill players It's funny. 391 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: I was when we were doing an interview with with 392 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: James Camping. It was funny because it's stood out to 393 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: me because he started talking about perimeter players and I 394 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: chuckled and I said, you can tell you're an offensive 395 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: line coach because you don't refer to what everybody else 396 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: called skill players exactly. And so I've thought about that 397 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: for a long time, and so I always always I 398 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: would call perimeter players. But because of that, I've thought 399 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: about that for a long time. But he reminded me 400 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: of that. But the perimeter players, I think, for the 401 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: most part, I've gotten the acclaim that just do I 402 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: think if you would throw one perimeter player in that mix. 403 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 1: I think because he sort of bridges the gap between 404 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: Dominic Davis, Dominic Williams through to Arian Foster and that 405 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: Steve Slayton. If Slates stayed healthy, it would have been 406 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: scary to see what he could have done. But he 407 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: just couldn't stay healthy. But man, at two thousand and 408 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: eight year when he was a rookie boy, he was 409 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: at a different level. But I think people appreciated him 410 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: for it. But looking back, and you say, hey, who 411 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: are the great running backs that's oh Arian Foster Dominican. 412 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: I guarantee you they'd all mentioned Steve Slayton, but in 413 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight he was as good as a god, 414 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 1: as a rookie man. He was unbelievably good. He sure was. 415 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: Oh nine was rough because of the nerve damage and 416 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: he had the fumble issues. But the thought was going 417 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: into two thousand and ten, well he gets that fixed. 418 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: And remember people, there were people that are saying, well, 419 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Slate and Tate in two thousand and 420 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: ten because Ben Tate in twenty ten. Well, Arian Foster 421 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: had a little bit to say about that and anything 422 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: goodness he did. I mean, Arian was an amazing back 423 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: and fun guy to cover. But yeah, that's a good one. 424 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: Steve Slayton is a good We could do it. Maybe 425 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: one of our next in the labs is one year 426 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to say wonders, but one year kind 427 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: of anomalies or guys that really flourished in one year 428 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: here with the Texans, because there are quite a few 429 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: of a good one. Yeah, yeah, definitely a few for sure. 430 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: John's always good to talk with you. Like I said, 431 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: keep your eye out for that. Cody interview. We've also 432 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: got one that we've talked about on air a bit, 433 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak. We went to his ranch up northwest to 434 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: hear about an hour outside of town. Had a fun 435 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: time talking with him. He's gonna be the fate or 436 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: the focus of a Texans three sixty coming up in 437 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: the weeks to come, so make sure you'll check that out. 438 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: And it's gonna be a good one. Sound good, sounds good, man. 439 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that for sure. Man. I'm very 440 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm envious. I don't like to say that, but I'm 441 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: envious that you and coach Gooban's got that chance to 442 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: get together. Man, he is. He's another guy at top 443 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: of my list that I would like to sit down 444 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: and talk to some ball with that. You guys got 445 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: a chance to do that and I didn't. So yeah, 446 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: maybe maybe jealous and I don't know, that's one of 447 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: the are those two of the deadly sins? I don't know, 448 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: but chuck him up for me with coach Kubiak, I'd 449 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: love to meet and talk with him. We get back, 450 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: Drew is gonna stick around with a little Drew's dozen 451 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: with a few offens Lineman, namely Titus Howard and Rod Johnson. 452 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: That's the next Texas Axis. Welcome back to this wonderful 453 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: Wednesday evening at Texans All Access edition from Honday, Texans 454 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris, and we just 455 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: had Drew Dorty on with me doing a little in 456 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: the lab talking about unheralded and underappreciated players and most 457 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: times I think fans would say that about the offensive line. 458 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: We mentioned a couple offensive lineman in our discussion from 459 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: Texans Past. Well, how about Texans future Well President and 460 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: future and Titus Howard and Rod Johnson. Well, Drew got 461 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: down in dirty with a dirty Drews dozen with Titus 462 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: Howard and Rod Johnson. It's here first for the third 463 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: year offensive lineman, former first rounder Titus Howard. Many of 464 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: your teammates say that you are the funniest Houston Texan. 465 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: Why did they say that? Because I I joke on 466 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: people a lot. I just like compare when people look 467 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: like to like stuff I've seen and stuff like that. 468 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: And that comes from like the school I went to. 469 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: Because all my teammates back in college, all we did was, 470 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: like you choke on each other and like make people 471 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: laugh and stuff like that. So that's what I do. 472 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: Like I see somebody and they got they're looking funny, 473 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: and like I just choke on them and like just 474 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: trying to make everybody laugh and I just have a 475 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: good time. So you kind of spread the wealth as 476 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: far as joking on people, or is there somebody in 477 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: particular that you get time and time again? I spread 478 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: the wealth on everybody. A lot of people have you 479 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: as a funny sex Who do you think is your 480 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: funniest teammate? Funniest teammates? I ain't. I gotta I gotta 481 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: go with I gotta go with Brandon Dune. Pretty funny. 482 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: He's the DJ of the locker room, too done. It's hilarious. 483 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: He's pretty funny. Has he ever gotten you with anything good? Yeah? Man, 484 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: if you say some some off the walls stuffing, he 485 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: can't you saying it? He gonna be let it be 486 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: known to everybody what you say. And let's just let 487 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: you know. It's that pretty all right. How about favorite comedian? 488 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: Who's your favorite comedian? Favorite comedian you gotta be either 489 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: Kat Williams or Kevin Hart and both little people so 490 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: like the stuff they do. It's like pretty funny, and 491 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: both of them, all their movies are pretty funny to me, 492 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: and they stand up comedy shows are funny. Speaking of 493 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Hart, did you see that video of him watching 494 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: his high school basketball highlights on ESPN? I haven't seen 495 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: that one, but I know I was. I was laughing 496 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: at the video where him and The Rock had made 497 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: a video so each other, when The Rock had the 498 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: chain and stuff rin Kevin harton trying to make the 499 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: video to respond to, Okay, what song are you singing 500 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: in the car to your wife these days? Back when 501 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: we did this about a year ago, it was, let 502 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: it be that the duet? But what are you singing 503 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: to her now? Because you got a good voice, I say, 504 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: the best part by her, and Daniel says, there it's 505 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a girl singing a song, 506 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: but it's it's one of her favorite song. So when 507 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: she played I always ain't too all right, I said, 508 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna make a thing. But how does it go? 509 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: Can you just see it for for a little bit? 510 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: I see, no, I don't hear. It's just you and me. 511 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: And then a bunch of thousands of people that will 512 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: watch this later on the internet. Yeah, you know what, 513 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: all right, I won't push you on. I won't push 514 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: you on it not don't here. I hear you. I 515 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: hear you. Okay, Which teammate do you lean on the most? 516 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: If I had to say which teammate I lean on 517 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: the most, probably would be later Man. How come what 518 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: just because of his experience is greatness, all that stuff, 519 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: position and the level that he played. It is somewhere 520 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: I want to be. So if you got somewhere you 521 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: want to be, why not learn from one of the 522 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: best in the league. And he write down my team, 523 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: So I got the you know, ability to just go 524 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: as I hate how you see that, how you do 525 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: this is what you see when I do? How can 526 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: I create this, this, this and that? You know, he 527 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: always you know, give me his advice and if I 528 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: want to work out with him and he showed me 529 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: some stuff, you do it. So that's probably the guy 530 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: I lean on the most. That's awesome. That's a great 531 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: resource to have is a young player in the league. 532 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: Really as an old player in the league, to have 533 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: him near that's really cool. So if he's a guy 534 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: you lean on the most, do you also do like 535 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: hit him on a game day, And do you listen 536 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: to Shade No Ordinary Love to get ready for a game? 537 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: Because that's what he listens to. Did you know that? 538 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: If you want to talk about music and the different 539 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: varieties of music, then someone listened to Larami listened to 540 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: some of the craziest music I ever heard of. You 541 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: just see like on Instagram sharing like his different songs, 542 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: so we can stuff like that, Like he got, he 543 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: got a pretty pretty big leagues of music he listened to. 544 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 1: I don't listen to as much music he's done. Now 545 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: do you listen to anything on game day to get 546 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: ready or how do you get ready for a game? 547 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you to be honest, like when I 548 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: on game day, I really don't like listen to that 549 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: much music, all right. What I do is when we 550 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: have like a big break or something like that, I 551 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: like to like get my mind off the game or something. 552 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: I always like go to one of my favorite TV 553 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: shows how to get my mind off the games, so 554 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: I can get completely focused. And then when it's time 555 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: like play game, I'm just I'm ready to go. I 556 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: just turned to one of my favorite TV shows and 557 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: why I probablyzed like twenty and thirty minutes of it. 558 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a graz Anatomy fan, so really crazy. 559 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: I watched one of my favorite TV shows and then 560 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: sitting there for like twenty thirty minutes, then take it 561 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: off and then probably talk to a couple of guys 562 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: and read my notes a little bit like when you 563 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: get time to crunch time and read a couple my 564 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: notes for forty game. Yeah, I'm ready to go. That's great. 565 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: It's always interesting hearing your stories about how you get ready, 566 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: because everyone's is different. You just told yours, heard about 567 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 1: tonsil and shot a Brian Cushing used to throw up 568 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: in the locker room in a really violent manner, like 569 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: in front of everybody in this one track, Like everybody 570 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: does it in a different way, and it's always interesting 571 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: to hear that. So I played with like guys who 572 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: who like just was just sitting there locker and we 573 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: talked to nobody at all, and just like you just 574 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: talk to him that like they don't hear you. It's 575 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: always kind of interesting to see how people get ready 576 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: for their games, because like, everybody's different. Whatever works for you, 577 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: just what you do and you try to be consistent 578 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: with that. Okay, let's go back to when you played quarterback. 579 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: Describe to me your greatest single quarterback highlight. What happened? 580 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: I gotta say in my greatest highlight would be my 581 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: last game playing quarterback. My mom my brother was down. 582 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: At my last game I was playing against. My younger 583 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: brother played against played another high school to me. He's 584 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: year younger than me, so I got a chance to 585 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: play him as my last game in high school. He 586 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: had been talking to all type of crap all week. 587 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he played linebacker that, so you ain't getting 588 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: no yards gainst us this and that. Like the third 589 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: player of the game. I run the zone read, I 590 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: cut backside, going to the middle, I run him over, 591 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: run my love like truck sticking and take it like 592 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: seventy yards like a touchdown, and I go in the 593 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: end zone. I look at my brother and look at 594 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: my mom like, yeah, you just saw it halfway. And 595 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: then after the game, he didn't want to walk to 596 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: talk to him because all game I haven't talked. Crab 597 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: coming after that play and I am sixteen carries for 598 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifteen yards my last high school football 599 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: games quarterback. Oh my goodness, please tell me there's video 600 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: of some of this Sumwhere do you have video of this? 601 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: I can get you some some film from that last game. Well, 602 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,239 Speaker 1: I'd love to see it. But if I were you, 603 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: I'd have like that seventy yard run like as a 604 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: gift and just send it to him every day and 605 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: just mess with him. That's what highlight every time I 606 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: see him. He was like, man, that still can't believe 607 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: your old labman, And I was like, yeah, that's gold Man, 608 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Okay, So let's say who you are right 609 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: now physically everything you know right now mentally, if you 610 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: were put back in your current you're the high school 611 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: where you went and they let you play in a game, 612 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: what positions would you play and what would happen. I'm 613 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: the size I am right now, the strength, the size everything, 614 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: I'm the size of the am right now. I would 615 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: be playing old line D line, and I would the 616 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: guys I played in high school. I would be murdering 617 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: then because I was like some somewhat bigger than some 618 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: of my line man in high school. I was tall. 619 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: I would I didn't weigh as much as them, but 620 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: I was like tall as I probably have been like 621 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: a five star probably taught Rank Player in the Nation 622 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: some of my high school right now. I always love 623 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: asking that question because you get some good stats that 624 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: are thrown out and some fun scenarios that happened. So yeah, 625 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: that's good stuff. What was your first job ever? My 626 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: first real job ever was working at this place called 627 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: Wild Wings. I cook wings in the back, pre up 628 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: the wings. Sometimes they made me watch the ships and stuff. 629 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: And then after that I ended up working at a 630 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: car wash for a while and I just watched cars, 631 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: and that was I worked at my car wash. I 632 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: think right before my senior year of college football. I 633 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: watched cars like just to like get money over the 634 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: summer and stuff like that. And I did that before 635 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: the season started, and then I had to quit when 636 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: the season start and then they say, you know, I 637 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: have a good season out here. Who I am now? 638 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: So I'm just grateful for everything, to be honest. So 639 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: does that mean you have a very clean car at 640 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: all times? Now? What how does that work? Oh? Yeah, 641 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: I gotta keep my car clean. I paid you gotta 642 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: come out to my house and and clean my car 643 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: because I have to have my car clean. I hate 644 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: running around in dirty car. Well, I won't let you 645 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: look inside mine. It looks kind of like a dumpster 646 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: at times. I've got four children, so it's it's kind 647 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: of tough. But yeah, I like clean cars too. I 648 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: just thought not able to get it clean as much 649 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: as I'd liked. What was your first car though? When 650 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: you were when? When did you have a first car? 651 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: What was it? Now you're gonna laugh, but as big 652 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: as I am, my first car was a Hunday at Luntra. Okay, 653 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: so I had to get the seat did so they 654 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: can move it all the way back and nobody can 655 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,239 Speaker 1: sit behind me in the car. It was a it 656 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 1: was a fourth seater, but and when I was in it, 657 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: it was a three seater. It's a three seater because 658 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: you're yeah, so did you kind of have to fold 659 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: yourself into that thing? I had to drop down and 660 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: get all of it. But I know everybody used to 661 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: always laugh when I pull open. They made way too 662 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: big for that car because I took a pitch in 663 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: front of it, and I was like a giant standing 664 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: in front of the car. We all have interesting first 665 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: car stories. Mine so I'm old and back in the 666 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: mid nineties, I got an Oldsmobile ninety eight from nineteen 667 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: eighty four, and I think this is like the biggest 668 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: car ever made. I mean, this is like two Valore 669 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: couches on wheels. This is enormous car. But it was old. 670 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, we all have interesting first car stories. Oh man, 671 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: I think mine was a Toyota Torsel. I believe that 672 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: was my first one. I heard somebody the other night 673 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: to say that on TV said his or her first car. 674 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 1: It was a Toyot or totersseau. It's a good car. 675 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: The thing was is we got it and it was tiny, 676 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: and yet it was bigger than any car that my 677 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: friends had in high school. So they all used to 678 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: bum rides from me. Speaking of offensive linemen that don't 679 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: need to bum rides anymore. Rod Johnson also stopped by 680 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: for a little Drew's dozen. Here we go, we're gonna 681 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: get things going with. If you were an animal, which 682 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 1: animal would you choose to be? Let's do rabbit. I'd 683 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: be an elephant. An elephant? How come? I don't know. 684 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: I'm just there's just they're being a dominant. But they're 685 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: they're they're they're still sweet too. They are brilliant animals too. 686 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean I guess because the brain is so big, right, 687 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 1: very brilliant animals. That's the great words you use, brilliant animals. 688 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: So an elephant would be the choice. Okay, switching gears, 689 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: who is your funniest teammates? Titus Howard? I've heard that before. 690 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: Why don't you explain why how come? I don't know. 691 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: It's just the way. It's not what he says is high. 692 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: He says it in all kinds of things. But it's 693 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: just his personality. He's such a funny guys, but funny 694 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: human means you see, I can't even see his name 695 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: without a straight phase. Yeah I could, I could see that. 696 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: He's also one of the best interviews, So there's there's 697 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: always a fun time when we as are you, but 698 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: it's always a fun guy to talk with. What is 699 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: the grossest food in your opinion? Beats? Beats? Can't eat beats? 700 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: You would not be buddies with Dwight Shrewd from the office. 701 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: Would you can't do beats? And you know we have 702 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: beat jews going around here as nutrition and performance. I'm passed. Yeah, 703 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I wouldn't drink drink beat juice either. 704 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm not into that. Do you watch The Office? Have 705 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: you ever watched The Office? That? Yeah, I'm quite familiar 706 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: with it. I'm not as fond as you about it, 707 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: but I've seen a couple of episode. Let's talk about this. 708 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: Let's say you win a game at NRG Stadium on 709 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: a Sunday, it's a noon game. Afterwards, what's the perfect postgame? Neal? 710 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: You can't go roun with a good burger after It 711 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: really doesn't matter from where what a good burger? A 712 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: good burger would always do the job. And what do 713 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: you put on the barbecue too? This this is a 714 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: multi answer question. Okay, I like good burger and the 715 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: good barbecue. A good beef rib or something like that too. 716 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: Be fribs, Huh? What are the sides when you get 717 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: get the beef ribs? Baked beans mac you gotta have 718 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: a whole spiel. Baked beans, macaroni, maybe look collic greens, 719 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: and sometimes you've got to get a peach cobbler to 720 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: end it all. Man, I ate a chicken caesar salad 721 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: for lunch, and that thing is hungry. Now you just 722 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: made me hungry. But I'm so sorry to hear that. 723 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: That's all right, Rod, I'm not mad at you free 724 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: game music? What are a few songs that you listen to? Are? 725 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: Is there a set list? Is it very? What's it 726 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: like when you're getting ready for a game music? It's 727 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: very not really sad, but it's kind of upbeat, you know, 728 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: hip hop r being but there definitely like Future and 729 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: meat Meal and artists like those for sure on my 730 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 1: on my ears. Okay, so you're not like Laramy Tunsel. 731 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: You don't play game? Oh no, no, I have to 732 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: say Saturday for after the game to call to bring 733 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: you down. Yes, I say Saturday for after the game. 734 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: The Quiet Storm is a post game. There you go 735 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: planet that you'd most like to visit? Why do I 736 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: go to Mars? Okay? How come? I don't know. I'm 737 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: not too fine about Nus or Ranus or anything, but 738 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: just Mars. I mean maybe some stuff going on Mars already. Yeah, 739 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: we don't know about hey, and if it's not already, 740 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: it's going to be soon, right, I mean that's it 741 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: seems like it's trending that way. Yeah, yeah, I like, okay, 742 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 1: what would your career be if you were not playing 743 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: football right now? I don't know. I tell the guys 744 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: around here that I could be. I can be a 745 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: security guard. You a Walmart greeter? Yeah, I could. I 746 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: could be a security guard at high school or anything 747 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: like that. Something like that for sure. Okay, let's give 748 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: me your give me your best Walmart greeter. Say I 749 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: walk in, what would you say, sir? Where's your mask 750 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: to go? I'm not wearing a mask, but I'm in 751 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: my office. There's no one around in the doors closed, 752 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: so I would I would be masked up properly. That 753 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: would be my Walmart greeting. That's good. It's good you're 754 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: enforcing safety. I like that. Roderick. What's the app that 755 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: you wish you could delete from your phone but you 756 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: just can't. I'm I'm team Twitter, Your team Twitter. Yeah, 757 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: that's a good one. Twitter is always a good lad, 758 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: never disappoints me. Yeah. And it's like a news feed too. Yeah, 759 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: keeps you keeps you go, knowing what's going on in 760 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: the world football side. What do you most like being 761 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: complimented on? What part of your personality, your skills, your trip? 762 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: What are you most like being commented on? I don't know. 763 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,439 Speaker 1: Is it I find it funny or I like when 764 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: people always say they always see what a smile on 765 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: my face. I like that for sure, Like yeah, I 766 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: bring the joy to other people, so hopefully it's contagious. 767 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: What was your favorite or who was your favorite solo 768 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: artist or group musically when you were growing up, when 769 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: you were a little kid back then, I was a while, 770 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: a big while a fan. Still am too, though, I 771 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: like wallet. All right, Roderick, hey man, it's great to 772 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: be with you on this. That's good luck in the 773 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: off season and we'll talk again, very very serious. I'm 774 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: good as good to see you, Grove, thank you so 775 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: much for Thank you, ROTTERI I'm not sure my time 776 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: here with the Texans that I've seen a player improve 777 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: more than Rod has. From getting into the NFL, joining 778 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: the Texans a few years ago to where he is now. 779 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: I think he's come a long way. I've told him 780 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: not a few times. I think he has really improved 781 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: his game. He's really sharpening it up. And I hated 782 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: seeing him get hurt because he's had to deal with 783 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: the rehab as opposed to just moving forward. But there's 784 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: anybody's gonna be able to do it. I think Rod 785 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: Johnson will and he is going to be a factor 786 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: on this offensive line. In twenty twenty one and hopefully beyond. 787 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: All right, we get back let's go around in the NFL. 788 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: Still stuff happening as we get near the month of 789 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: July training camp month. Oh, we'll talk about that next 790 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: right here in Texas All Access. What's up, everybody? Welcome 791 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: back to this final segment of this Wednesday edition of 792 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Honday Texans Radio studio. I 793 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: am your host, John Harris, football analyst, salad report order, 794 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: and so happy that the Rockets got picked number two. 795 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: Oh man, I hope you guys had a chance to 796 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: listen to Sean Pendergast and Adam Spillane last night. They 797 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: had a special show at seven o'clock. Now, typically at 798 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 1: seven o'clock shows my man Tyler Milner doing a best 799 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: of throughout the day on Sports Radio six ten, But 800 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: last night it was a special edition because of the 801 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: draft lottery, and for those of you who have been 802 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: paying attention, you know, the Rockets had to finish in 803 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: the top four to make sure they would maintain that pick. 804 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: If not, they fell away at eighteen and thankfully, thankfully, thankfully, 805 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: they got pick number two. Yes, I know, it's Texas 806 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 1: All Axis but sometimes I like to go off the grid, 807 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: if you will, and you'll see where I'm going with 808 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: this to the second the Pistons, apparently Kate Cuttingham is 809 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: that pick, and he should be the pick. I love him. 810 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: He's Ben Simmons with a jump shot and the ability 811 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 1: to score. But I saw report saying that Jalen Green 812 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 1: might be too physically imposing and talented for the Pistons 813 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: to pass up. Now a guy that in the NFL 814 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: has been physically imposing and so much more talented than 815 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: his brother and his Julio Jones well head coach Arthur 816 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 1: Smith of the Atlanta Falcons was on PFF Chris Collinsworth 817 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: podcast and he said it was a win win situation 818 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,919 Speaker 1: to trade Julio. What Here's what Smith had to say, 819 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: and I quote, we knew the issue with the cap 820 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: and then obviously the cap went down this year coming 821 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: off the Bazari with pandemic pandemic, the cap actually shrunk, 822 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: So we knew there were going to be some big 823 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: decisions we would have to make coming up. The way 824 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: everything worked out, though, we feel good. We feel like 825 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: it was a win win with salary cap and Julio 826 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: going to Tennessee and US right now being able to 827 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: solve our short term issue with the cap. The Falcons 828 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: return got a second in a late round pick swap 829 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, and if you think about it, 830 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: if the Titans do what we think they're gonna do, 831 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 1: then that's gonna end up being essentially an early third 832 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: round pick for Julio Jones. So Arthur Smith cap problems, 833 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: it's a win win maybe for Tennessee in Atlanta. I 834 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: don't know how well mentioned is for Atlanta. And I 835 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: know people are like, oh, that's second round pick. Yay 836 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: as opposed to have a Julio, But you get yourself 837 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: financial trouble. That's the price you have to pay. Speaking 838 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: of wide receivers potentially coming to AFC, South, Golden Tate, 839 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 1: who I've always been a big fan of, list three 840 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 1: teams on his wish list that he would like to 841 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: go to. One of them is the Rams, Matthew Stafford, 842 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup Robert Woods. You throw Golden Tate and there 843 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: who we could get nice if it isn't already. The 844 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: two other teams, oh boy, the Tennessee Titans, Indianapolis Colts, 845 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: AJ Brown, Julio Jones, and Golden Tate. I don't want 846 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: any part of that whatsoever, So we'll keep an eye 847 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: on that for the rest of the summer. But Golden 848 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: Tate probably not going to sign until training camp or 849 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: somewhere during training camp. He's a vet. Teams know what 850 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 1: they can do, stay healthy, stay at training camp, but 851 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 1: they'll make a decision when needed. But Golden Tate looking 852 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: at two teams in the AFC South. All right, we'll 853 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow night, John mcclan along with myself and 854 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 1: Mark right here on Sports Radio six to appreciate you guys. Listen, 855 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: we'll see tomorrow and as always, go Texans.