WEBVTT - S1 Episode 2: Paving The Way

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<v Speaker 1>Drafted as a production of tree Fort Media, Clutched Sports Group,

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<v Speaker 1>and I Heart Radio. Welcome back to Drafted, where eight

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<v Speaker 1>elite college football players take us on their personal journeys

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<v Speaker 1>as they enter the NFL. Dad's outside gritting papers. He

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<v Speaker 1>looks more anxious about the draft than he does the papers.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, he's really anxious. But you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just worried about where I'm going. And in the week

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<v Speaker 1>leading up to the NFL Draft, they'll mike themselves up

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<v Speaker 1>without producers, directors or cameras. Things gonna get hear it out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a little man, Hey, something's gonna be here.

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<v Speaker 1>It out all right, They're going here. It all offering

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<v Speaker 1>an honest, authentic look at who these athletes are beneath

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<v Speaker 1>the pads and what it takes to go from a

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<v Speaker 1>childhood dream to hearing their name called undraft day. Talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, man, what is it? I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>have that in factor that nobody has. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some people have it, some people don't. Some people got

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<v Speaker 1>more it's than others, And you know, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it determines how successful you'll be, how far you'll go,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're willing to do. But you're willing to sacrifice,

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<v Speaker 1>which you're willing to commit to it. And I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like my if actor has has always been something that's

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<v Speaker 1>set me apart. I mean, I'm not a first rounder,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not even the top three rounder. This

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<v Speaker 1>episode focuses on two new athletes playing the same position

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<v Speaker 1>in very different ways. We'll be hearing from the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>men on the field, the three plus pound offensive linement.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a real dominant player. I'd like to see my

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<v Speaker 1>man on the ground every play, and when you don't

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<v Speaker 1>the ground, like to jump on top of them. This

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<v Speaker 1>position requires a special kind of personality and comes with

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<v Speaker 1>its own unique challenges. It's all a mind game. If

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<v Speaker 1>you don't think you can beat that guy, and that

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<v Speaker 1>guy knows that he's gonna bully you all day. Offensive

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<v Speaker 1>lineman are the unknown, unsung heroes of football. With technique,

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<v Speaker 1>they give their star quarterback the time and space to pass,

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<v Speaker 1>but tecting him from a brutal hit or providing a

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<v Speaker 1>few extra milliseconds to make a big play. With brute strength,

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<v Speaker 1>they move other three hundred plus pound men to create

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<v Speaker 1>an opening that running backs can burst through for a game.

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<v Speaker 1>Size and strength are critical, but playing offensive line is

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<v Speaker 1>also about the immeasurables. Willpower, effort, and mental strength are

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<v Speaker 1>just as important as the physical. In this second episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Drafted, we're about to hear from offensive tackles Mackay

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<v Speaker 1>Beckton and Tremaine Anchrome, along with their fathers who helped

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<v Speaker 1>push and shape them on the cusp of fulfilling their

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<v Speaker 1>dream and finally being drafted into the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 1>Right here anyway, because that's no no, I'm saying, when

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<v Speaker 1>on whenever you picked, I'm wearing this kind of head.

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<v Speaker 1>This is McKay Deckton, a highly touted offensive lineman, the

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<v Speaker 1>kind NFL teams build their franchises around. He's the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who protects the star quarterback. Now he and his family

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<v Speaker 1>are preparing for his own star turn on draft day. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I played at the University of Louisville, and I played

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<v Speaker 1>in office a tackle. When I hear the words drafting,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel great and I just get happy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just because I know my dream will come true

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<v Speaker 1>on that day. With the draft only a week away,

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<v Speaker 1>McKay has been shooting up mock draft boards, gaining momentum

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<v Speaker 1>as a potential top pick. He's hearing from everyone coaches, scouts,

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<v Speaker 1>friends and family. Yeah, I'm doing good, looking, looking good too.

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<v Speaker 1>I always look good. We're just ready now. Honestly, the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing outweighing McKay is larger than life confidence is

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<v Speaker 1>his mountainous, towering frame. It's almost impossible to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>McKay without discussing how big he is. Always been bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than the average kid. I was always standing over everybody

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<v Speaker 1>in pitchers. Always was the biggest kid. So there's something

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<v Speaker 1>I'm used to, not just bigger than the average kid

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<v Speaker 1>or the biggest kid, much much bigger than the biggest kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Just ask his dad. My name is Jerome Beck then,

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<v Speaker 1>and McKay is back then father, and he's my son.

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<v Speaker 1>We used to have to walk around with his birth

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<v Speaker 1>certificate because at some games we go to, they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe he was the age and the sad that he was.

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<v Speaker 1>As a thirteen year old high school freshman, McKay was

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<v Speaker 1>six ft three, two hundred and fifteen pounds and rapidly growing.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes when you have kids like that, you gotta let

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<v Speaker 1>them still be a kid. When he was coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>we always knew he was going to be special, but

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't put that pressure on him far as you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be this kid, you gotta be that kid. Go

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<v Speaker 1>out to have fun and work on your craft. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what we mainly always told him. Just working. Cry, I

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<v Speaker 1>get better every day. I said. When you get better

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<v Speaker 1>every day, that's when you know you'll get to see

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<v Speaker 1>you what you need to get to. So don't just

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<v Speaker 1>go out there and just be medio to just try

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<v Speaker 1>to get better every time you you touched that court

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<v Speaker 1>or you touched that field. And you know that always

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<v Speaker 1>stuck with him. On the first day of high school

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<v Speaker 1>football practice, mackay told his coach he wanted to play

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver or tight end. The coach laughed and said,

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<v Speaker 1>at the rape McKay was growing, he'd be too big

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<v Speaker 1>to play those positions in a few weeks. That's when

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<v Speaker 1>they moved him to the offensive line. He played football

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<v Speaker 1>and basketball. He was actually leaning towards basketball for his

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<v Speaker 1>first love when he was younger, but you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>started getting bigger and bigger, so he always was the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest kid on the football and basketball court. By the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the ninth grade, he was six ft five

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<v Speaker 1>and amazingly continuing to add weight to his lengthening frame.

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<v Speaker 1>He remembers the moment in high school when he first

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<v Speaker 1>realized his new fountain size had made a difference on

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<v Speaker 1>the field after the first game of my junior year

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<v Speaker 1>because we played against our arrivals and I've played really

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<v Speaker 1>good and that was my first varsity game, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>when I felt like, I can take this to the

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<v Speaker 1>next level and take you more seriously. When wants to

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<v Speaker 1>click with him, he put that high work in. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just disguised with the limit he wants his off of

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<v Speaker 1>start rolling in the high school, that's when he really

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<v Speaker 1>took a serious and made it to his craft that

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<v Speaker 1>he he was gonna try to make it as a professional.

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<v Speaker 1>By the end of high school, mackay received offers from

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one major college football programs thanks to some significant

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<v Speaker 1>growth spurts and serious hands on coaching. I coached him

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<v Speaker 1>all the way until he went in the high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Once he got in the high school, I just let him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I didn't apply to the coach at the

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<v Speaker 1>high school, but through the rings of recreation, I coached

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<v Speaker 1>him since he was five. My dad. He definitely coached

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<v Speaker 1>me harder than anybody else on the team. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie to you. The first year he coached me,

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<v Speaker 1>I was expecting him to take it easier because on

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<v Speaker 1>his son. But no, that wasn't that wasn't the case.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I got coached the hardest out of everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like it helped me out and long more. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean him, me and my coach definitely gave me

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<v Speaker 1>tougher skin as I got to these other coaches that

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<v Speaker 1>just talk to you any kind of way. I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>gave me the tougher skin. Tough love, coaching, commitment to

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<v Speaker 1>the craft, and an ability to handle criticism are not

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<v Speaker 1>all Jerome gave to his son. For anyone wondering where

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<v Speaker 1>McKay's athletic ability, size, or good looks comes from, are

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<v Speaker 1>you getting from the fathers? Yeah, you know, he definitely

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<v Speaker 1>gets his an athletic ability from his pops. He definitely

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<v Speaker 1>gets it from me. You know, I introduced it something

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<v Speaker 1>because I did play football. I played that's my pro

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<v Speaker 1>and I played a renal football, so you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of his history. Me and my dad are

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<v Speaker 1>the same person, I would say. I mean, we looked

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<v Speaker 1>the same, act the same, We were the same person

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<v Speaker 1>is splitting me, so me it's just like talking to myself, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>like him, like me. So I mean, as my guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Mackay decided to go to the Atlantic Coast Conference the

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<v Speaker 1>a c C to attend the University of Louisville. He

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<v Speaker 1>became a starter his freshman year and somehow he kept

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<v Speaker 1>getting bigger bigger, but the team struggled his sophomore year,

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<v Speaker 1>only winning two games. Louisville fired their head coach and

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<v Speaker 1>hired Scott Sadderfield, who brought in a new offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 1>and an offensive line coach, former NFL center Dwayne Ledford.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just from day one, WM Dwayne Lefford came in

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<v Speaker 1>and just told me the things that I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>before was wasn't right. Me and him had a meeting

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<v Speaker 1>the first day he got there. I mean, because I

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<v Speaker 1>already knew about his resume and when he did at

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina State, he he had like one of the

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<v Speaker 1>top a CC lines. So like the first day he

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<v Speaker 1>got there, man just had a meeting and he was

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<v Speaker 1>telling me how he watched my film and the things

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to work on. At first I felt some

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<v Speaker 1>type of way, but then I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta listen to him. Because he's been to the league.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been there, his name is in there and people

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<v Speaker 1>know him. So from that day on, I just listen

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<v Speaker 1>to everything he told me. Went in I just played

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<v Speaker 1>different This year. Years of learning to channel his dad's

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<v Speaker 1>constructive criticism at home and the field prepared mackay to

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<v Speaker 1>truly take the new coaching to heart, and because of that,

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<v Speaker 1>he became even more dominant, being named first team All

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<v Speaker 1>a c C and winning the award is the best

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<v Speaker 1>blocker in the conference. But McKay seemingly never ending growth

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<v Speaker 1>involved a lot more than just the Louisville coaching staff.

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<v Speaker 1>And his father and then his mother have a great relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>His mother is the one that is the cook of

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<v Speaker 1>the family, so she makes sure we all eat well.

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<v Speaker 1>He was always in the kitchen with her when she cooked.

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<v Speaker 1>But his mother, she hates for somebody to be in

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<v Speaker 1>her kitchen. He worked his way in there, so she

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<v Speaker 1>cool with that part. Now. My mom is the same

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<v Speaker 1>way as my dad, jeez, the same way. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>They both are tough love. They're gonna tell you when

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, tell you when you're wrong. They're gonna help

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<v Speaker 1>you whenever you are wrong. I mean it's just they

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<v Speaker 1>always They always made sure we had it even if

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have it. So they were definitely providers, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, great providers. That's especially true when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to his mom, who happens to be a professional caterer.

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<v Speaker 1>Now McCay needs to eat around to six thousand calories

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<v Speaker 1>every day just to maintain his playing weight. When I

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<v Speaker 1>was at Louisville, it was hard to morrow my weight

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<v Speaker 1>because once I started training, I started to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>that I would burn like twelve hundred caloriesies gonna workout,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wasn't restoring it in food. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>eat more. As much as life has changed and will

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<v Speaker 1>change for McKay, his mom and dad still provide and

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<v Speaker 1>are still all about tough love, even with the newest generation.

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<v Speaker 1>Get over here, I don't know what. He just stop

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<v Speaker 1>touching stuff. That's when he was saying, yeah, no, just

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<v Speaker 1>now we're about He said, no, wow, both of your

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<v Speaker 1>this is just ridiculous. Although McKay clearly thinks the grandkids

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<v Speaker 1>have it easier than he did, it was that tough

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<v Speaker 1>love and pushed to continually improve got him to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where he was ready to declare for the draft

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<v Speaker 1>once he declared for the NFL. His mass that was

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<v Speaker 1>on'm gonna kill a combat. The NFL Combine has been

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<v Speaker 1>described as a meat market for scouts. Others call it

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<v Speaker 1>a televised tryout or the world's Strangest job interview. For

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<v Speaker 1>three days, players compete in a series of drills and

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<v Speaker 1>interviews where scouts evaluate everything from weightlifting to agility to

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<v Speaker 1>how many times someone blinks. A team really asked a

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<v Speaker 1>player to participate in a staring contest. It's a level

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure and scrutiny found nowhere else, and so NFL

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<v Speaker 1>prospects prepare like their career depends on it, because sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it does. He left school, I think like three days

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<v Speaker 1>later he was in Florida to training, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>been training that here ever since. So his mass that

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<v Speaker 1>was to kill a combat. Macaw always been a big guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, now everything prototypical. They want to be

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<v Speaker 1>see a certain certain thing. Last year, every Pro Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>offensive tackle except one played around fifteen pounds and most

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<v Speaker 1>were around six ft five inches tall. Not Surprisingly, NFL

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<v Speaker 1>general managers now idealized the six ft five pound offensive

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<v Speaker 1>tackle prototype. They want all their prospects to fit that

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<v Speaker 1>exact model. When McKay showed up for the combine. He

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<v Speaker 1>was six ft seven and a half and three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty four pounds. With Louisville really not being on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them haven't seen Macca. So when McCAT

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<v Speaker 1>first walked into the combine, they was at all I

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<v Speaker 1>had tall and how big he was, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? They and they even they heard about it.

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<v Speaker 1>They figured that he probably was a big, sloppy kid

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<v Speaker 1>or what have you. But then they seen him. He

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<v Speaker 1>was putting put together real well. They was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, this this man is huge. You know. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the main buzz that he really gat it like.

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<v Speaker 1>They was impressed of his size and how he was

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<v Speaker 1>put together. But he moves like no other person you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen in your life. You know, his basketball skills

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<v Speaker 1>helped his football. Football helped his basketball skills, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's always been athletic. After a meeting with teams, mackay

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<v Speaker 1>took his position to run the forty yard dash, arguably

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<v Speaker 1>the most talked about and publicized drill in the combine.

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<v Speaker 1>Teams use the forty to gauge not just speed, but

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<v Speaker 1>also a prospects athleticism as Mackay crouched near the starting line.

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<v Speaker 1>Analysts once again marveled at his size. Number five on

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive lineman group, but also number five on your

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<v Speaker 1>top fifty players available in this year's draft. Why do

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<v Speaker 1>you have him so high up? You can't get through him?

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<v Speaker 1>And he uses his length and pass pro you can't

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<v Speaker 1>get around him. And in the run game, it's an avalanche.

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<v Speaker 1>When he down blocks, he just takes everybody with him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's moving pretty good. Boom by words, somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>large running a second? We just watched somebody who's three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred sixty four pounds, the heaviest individual at the scouting combine.

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<v Speaker 1>Did we just see him run five one one? The

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<v Speaker 1>fastest forty yard dash ever is four point to two

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<v Speaker 1>seconds by one hundred and ninety four pounds. Cincinnati Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver John Ross, Olympic gold medalist sprinter Usain Bolt

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<v Speaker 1>also ran a four point to to forty yard dash

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<v Speaker 1>that's less than one second faster than Mackay. When he

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<v Speaker 1>was training in Taxes, Tear and Armstead went down there

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<v Speaker 1>to visit, and when he walked in the room and

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<v Speaker 1>saw him, he said, what is that? Well, right now

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<v Speaker 1>is the initial run of five one one was the

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<v Speaker 1>fastest forty by a player three hundred fifty pounds or

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<v Speaker 1>bigger by point one five seconds as a large number

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<v Speaker 1>for a forty yard dash, breaking the over three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>fifty pound record with an official time of five point

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<v Speaker 1>one seconds. Now, McKay lines up for his second forty

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<v Speaker 1>yar dash. All players run the forty yard dash twice

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<v Speaker 1>to ensure there wasn't a mistake, but McKay's five point

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<v Speaker 1>one seconds time at three hundred and sixty five pounds

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<v Speaker 1>makes the scouts and the announcers series slee wonder was

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<v Speaker 1>this first run and error? Could it have been a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with the clock or a once in a lifetime

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<v Speaker 1>performance for McKay. So mackay takes off a second time.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got out oh by. Once I finished through the forty,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard every coach that was sitting at the forty like,

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<v Speaker 1>take a deep breath, life. So I knew I ran

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<v Speaker 1>a good time when I heard that, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people didn't expect me to do what I did. McKay's

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<v Speaker 1>second forty yard dash is clocked at five point one three,

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<v Speaker 1>almost identical to his first run. Stunned announcer Daniel Jeremiah

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<v Speaker 1>makes the comparison to Raiders Pro Bowl tackle Trent Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>Brown is a six ft eight, three hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>pound bulldozer who became the highest paid offensive lineman in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL with a four year, sixty six million dollar

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<v Speaker 1>contract in two thousand nineteen. We saw the money that

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<v Speaker 1>Trent Brown got in free agency, and you're gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>the equivalent of that of how Hi McKay Beckton goes

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<v Speaker 1>in this draft, because guys like this are just rare.

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<v Speaker 1>McKay's performance at the Combine and the reactions from teams

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<v Speaker 1>and the TV analysts changed the entire conversation about him.

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<v Speaker 1>Even his family back home can't stop talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, he just see my word, my word

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<v Speaker 1>that it's always good. On the first one, mackay is

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<v Speaker 1>no longer viewed is simply a prospect with impressive size.

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<v Speaker 1>Teams now realize how fast and athletic he is. Mel

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<v Speaker 1>kayper Jr. The famous ESPN NFL draft analyst, names McKay

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<v Speaker 1>one of his favorite prospects in the entire draft. Suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>he's being discussed as a possible top five pick and

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<v Speaker 1>the first offensive lineman that will be selected. Rumors circulate

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<v Speaker 1>that he could be picked as high as number two. Overall,

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<v Speaker 1>my expectation was definitely higher. After ran that forty, well

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<v Speaker 1>after I performed at the Combine, I felt pretty confident.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great feeling, you know, just to see him

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<v Speaker 1>on television, and he's proven it every year of college

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<v Speaker 1>and he works on every aspect of his game to

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<v Speaker 1>get better. He went from people always tell him he's

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<v Speaker 1>just doing it because he's a big kid. He took

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<v Speaker 1>that as fuel and made it and said his fire

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<v Speaker 1>sky's a limit for him and and he will show

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<v Speaker 1>that once you get into the NFL, he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be great. As high as the praise and expectations of

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<v Speaker 1>growing for Mackay, teams do have questions. Some raised doubts

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<v Speaker 1>about his ability to keep his weight and check how

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<v Speaker 1>there's wonder if his pass blocking needs more work. We

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<v Speaker 1>kept hearing different things. People kept out on this different

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that you know, they say his pass pros need

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<v Speaker 1>a little help, which that's one thing I didn't understand

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<v Speaker 1>because he only gave up one stat in three years,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. But it still was the unknown.

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<v Speaker 1>I was making us nervous of the situation. Because you

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<v Speaker 1>really didn't know exactly what was going to happen the

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<v Speaker 1>way he was going. Of course, raising questions about highly

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<v Speaker 1>touted top draft prospects is an annual NFL tradition. From

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<v Speaker 1>Peyton Manning to cam Utant to last year's Rookie of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year Kyler Murray, scouts and analysts find ways to

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<v Speaker 1>poke holes in the armor of even the most sure

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<v Speaker 1>fire prospects. This year, Ohio states Chase Young chose not

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<v Speaker 1>to participate in any NFL combine drills. Now scouts and

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<v Speaker 1>analysts whisper about what he's possibly hiding. Some wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>skipping the drills will hurt his draft position. Because tens

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<v Speaker 1>of millions of dollars are invested in each top pick,

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<v Speaker 1>each player is under a microscope. Teams want a sure thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So now as the draft inches closer and McKay's path

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<v Speaker 1>to the top of the first round seems a little

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<v Speaker 1>less certain, the only question becomes how serious are the

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<v Speaker 1>questions about it? We'll be right back. This year's draft

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<v Speaker 1>will be as unique as any in history. All the players, coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>general managers, and even the commissioner will be remote calling

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<v Speaker 1>in from cell phones and webcams. The biggest difference with

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<v Speaker 1>this draft and others is if you know Bill Belichick

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<v Speaker 1>and you know any read if they lose their WiFi,

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<v Speaker 1>they may lose their draft pick. You know, somebody didn't

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<v Speaker 1>pay their phone bill. That's Tremaine Anchrome, offensive tackle from Clemson.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a shining example of one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't changed this year, the fact that NFL players come

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<v Speaker 1>in all shapes and sizes. Mount McKay Beckton is as

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<v Speaker 1>large as offensive lineman get a run blocking force of

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<v Speaker 1>nature who overpowers his opponents with his three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>sixty four pounds. At the other end of the spectrum

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<v Speaker 1>is Tremaine six ft two and a little over three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred pounds. Tremaine Anchorum is more of a pass blocker,

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<v Speaker 1>someone who thrives off technique and agility less than brute force. Anchorme,

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<v Speaker 1>just a week out from the day that may change

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<v Speaker 1>his life, reflects on the moment, I guess guess just

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<v Speaker 1>why you know? Yeah, I feel like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>can give the whole spill about how my hard worker

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the better use of I guess this

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<v Speaker 1>time is talking about it? Man? What is it? I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I have that it factor that nobody has.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, some people have it, some people don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people got more of it than others. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you're born with it. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it determines how successful you'll be, how far

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<v Speaker 1>you'll go, what you're willing to do, but you're willing

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<v Speaker 1>to sacrifice, ah, what you're willing to commit to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like my factors has always been something

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<v Speaker 1>that's set me apart. I mean, I'm not a first rounder.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not even a top three rounder. This

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<v Speaker 1>doubt is a new phenomenon for him, lingering ever since

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<v Speaker 1>you feel it's just pro day in front of NFL scouts.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's returning home to Powder Springs, Georgia, a suburb

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<v Speaker 1>of Atlanta, settling into a routine with his family in

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<v Speaker 1>another new circumstance, the new normal of quarantine. It's eleven

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock in the morning, and I'm making breakfast. Why because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a housemaid in the house. I'm just cooking breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>for myself. And He's saying breakfast. I always cooked eggs, potatoes,

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever meat is available. You know, today it's baking.

0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow could be fish. Ribs whatever breakfast is not champions

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<v Speaker 1>with consistency. So here we are. How the potatoes may

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<v Speaker 1>they're good. I'm notam playing. She's just cleaning a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Dad's outside gritting papers. Uh. He looks more anxious about

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<v Speaker 1>the draft than he does the papers. But yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's really anxious. But you know, I'm just worried about

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm going and his stepmother, Mirabelle. My hopes for

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<v Speaker 1>Tremaine and the NFL in life are that he continues

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<v Speaker 1>to be the great person that he is and continue

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<v Speaker 1>to grow, um and just have an amazing happy life.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are my hopes for him. Um, if Tremaine wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a football player, I think he would definitely be somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>on TV or on the radio because he's an amazing speaker.

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<v Speaker 1>He's charismatic, he has a great personality, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a perfect fit for him. Tremaine hopes

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<v Speaker 1>to take that refined personality to the NFL, and not surprisingly,

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<v Speaker 1>his approach has little to do with what team picks

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<v Speaker 1>him and more to do with culture. Are more, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess anxious about finding a system that you know I

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<v Speaker 1>can grow in and people that you know work with

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<v Speaker 1>great character. Guys. I want to go to work every

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<v Speaker 1>day and some locker room, but you know from for

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<v Speaker 1>an office and all the staff. I mean, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>be the only asshole in there. Need to try somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else in asshole too. So. A two year starter for

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<v Speaker 1>the Clemson Tigers, Tremaine played an integral role in one

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<v Speaker 1>of college football's most successful programs, winning a national title

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand eighteen and returning to the championship game

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and nineteen. His team ranked third in

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<v Speaker 1>total offense in college football during their championship run and

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<v Speaker 1>fourth the next year. They were lethal, scoring twenty nine

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<v Speaker 1>points against the renowned Ohio State defense with Chase Young

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<v Speaker 1>and Jeff Okuda, and then scoring twenty five points in

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<v Speaker 1>the championship game against l s U. Tremaine was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the anchors for the offense, blocking for star quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawrence and Clemson's all time leading rusher and two

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<v Speaker 1>time a CC Player of the Year Travis Etienne. So

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<v Speaker 1>going into his pro day at Clemson in March, he

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<v Speaker 1>was optimistic, I have the ability to play different positions.

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<v Speaker 1>Most teams sound There's nothing I can't do. It was

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<v Speaker 1>five spot I can get on the field and help

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<v Speaker 1>the team win. Tremaine's resume looks as complete as any

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<v Speaker 1>lineman in the draft, a clear first or second round

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<v Speaker 1>pick on paper, he succeeded on the biggest stage in college.

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<v Speaker 1>So why then, does he feel he's fallen to the

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<v Speaker 1>back half of the draft. What are the knocks against him?

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<v Speaker 1>Not big enough, not long enough, not aggressive enough. A

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<v Speaker 1>product of the system he played in, surrounded by top

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<v Speaker 1>talent that covered his mistakes. These knocks from analysts and

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<v Speaker 1>scouts can get to even the most confident of athletes,

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<v Speaker 1>even a big, self assured lineman like Tremaine. Which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weird, because I don't want to suffer the

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassment of not being drafted. Possibly and I'm one of

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<v Speaker 1>those sad stories on the TV somebody not getting drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want that page. How Rather, there's no I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going I can't let myself be cheated out of the process.

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<v Speaker 1>That was no regular person. I've never been a regular person.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to do as comfortable. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do what makes me the best. According to the Scouting Academy,

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<v Speaker 1>the average NFL tackle is six ft five fifteen pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>the size and shape of all Pro bowlers from last

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<v Speaker 1>season except the aforementioned Trent Brown. These are huge people.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Hall of Fame coach Bill Parcels the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Tuna used to call playing on the offensive line the

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<v Speaker 1>dance of the Elephants. Tremaine is a bit shorter than

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<v Speaker 1>the Elephants playing tackle at this level, and he's a

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<v Speaker 1>little light at just over three hundred pounds, so the

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 1>NFL has projected him as a guard, not a tackle.

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Plagued alongside the center, guards are usually the more compact

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 1>lineman who engaged the interior defensive tackles, likely a better

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>fit for Tremaine. At the next level, when you're playing

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:47.560
<v Speaker 1>inside as an offensive guard, it's more of a wrestling match.

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 1>It's more of a bull fight. You need a really

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:53.680
<v Speaker 1>good leverage. When you're playing off of the tackle, it's

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:55.919
<v Speaker 1>more of a dance out there. You're gonna be at

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more athletic, be able to play in space,

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.359
<v Speaker 1>have long arms, be able to use your feet and

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:03.600
<v Speaker 1>hands better than you would inside, and you're playing a

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 1>much much better athlete than you are playing the inside.

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>But he could play both positions at Clemson. His versatility

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and maturity outweighed any scize disadvantage while anchoring the prolific offense.

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>In addition to that versatility, scouts are touting Tremaine's other

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:28.400
<v Speaker 1>intangible He's already a professional and how he approaches the game.

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Just listen to his mindset and how to handle the

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>one man wrecking crew of Chase Young in the Fiesta Bowl.

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 1>So going into the House Day game, I knew I

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 1>had to play a player like Chase Young, and I

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:42.960
<v Speaker 1>had to understand that, hey, this is a big task.

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 1>The biggest part of an offensive linement and defensive linement

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>matchup is the mental game. It's not so much who

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:51.920
<v Speaker 1>wins one rep and it's over. No, it's a continual

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:56.160
<v Speaker 1>game of chess, not checkers. The only way we get

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>to the national championship, the only way we achieve the

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 1>goal of winning the game is that I do my job.

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>We can create a great game plan, We can do

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 1>everything with the receivers, the running backs, quarterback. We have

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>all this talent. It doesn't work if I don't win

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:15.880
<v Speaker 1>my matchup. Clemson one scoring more than twice the average

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State allowed on defense every game that season, improving

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:23.679
<v Speaker 1>their winning streak to games in a row. The Mighty

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Chase Young didn't have a sack in the last game

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>of his college career. Tremaine and Clemson contained the Predator.

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I've played a lot of great players, and every time

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you make it about them, you lose sight of what's

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>really important, which is you. You gotta focus on internal,

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 1>what you can put out, what you can do, not

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 1>what they can do to you. And I knew I

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't have to do anything other than just be myself.

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 1>And then once I kind of understood that, that's where

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 1>my games took golf were regardless of the competition. Tremaine's

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 1>business like approach and preparation drew the attention of Clutch

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Sports Group, the agency representing NBA stars like Lebron James

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.439
<v Speaker 1>and Anthony Davis, Saints star running back Alvin Kamara, and

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>now Tremaine Ancram. It's these qualities that Clutch super agent

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Rich Paul describes as one of the separating factors for

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>who makes it and who doesn't. There's a lot of

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 1>athletes out There's a lot of talented people out there,

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 1>but there's very few professional athletes out there. And because

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 1>you play a professional sport, doesn't necessarily make you a

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>professional athlete. This is the special approach Tremaine brings to

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>the game every single day. It's one of the reasons

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>why Paul's agency will be representing him as he takes

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 1>the leap into the NFL. If I'm evaluating the athlete,

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>just as important as the talent is the character. Now

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 1>does that mean you've got a super talented player and

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 1>his character isn't that high? Are you gonna not represent them? No,

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean that. But you have to value their

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>character because, as we see every day, it's a big deal.

0:28:57.840 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>It's a big deal. It can make a break your career.

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>And so if you can build good habits and have

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 1>great character, I think it puts you on the right

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>side of success for a very long time. Now, if

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>you can bat that with unbelievable talent, then you got

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>a superstar on your heads. We'll be right back Tremaine's

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>humility and workout there. We're learned at home here in

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Powder Springs. I felt like Powder Springs made me who

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I am values that people kind of have here. Powder

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Springs is I guess the best place to raise a family.

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you got parks, I got Rex Center, crackheads,

0:29:54.320 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean you got I mean, yeah, farms, you know,

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 1>you got your own little hoods over there. But then

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>you got like places. Yeah, good God. But then you

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>have exactly you know what we we We we identify

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>and we support everybody that who wants to identify is

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>game bankers from Powder Springs, Georgia or whatever. Homes where

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:21.959
<v Speaker 1>your heart is. As cliche as that is, you can

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 1>quote me on that. But then you also have like

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>country walk with like gas stations for neighborhoods. I thought

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>you walked on. I attribute off a house to my

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 1>white game. That was my training table. Everything on the menu,

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, scatter covered, peppered, diced, all of that. It's

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 1>loful house. If you're listening, throw me a bag please,

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 1>or just a limited waffle house for rest of my life. Yeah, man,

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I love Powder Springs throughout his childhood and Powder Springs

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Tremaine Junior always lived in the shadow of another larger

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 1>than life presence Tremaine Senior, High school business education teacher.

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Everything good, Everything is fantastic, good good good. Keep them

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>busy out there. He's keeping busy and I'm on I'm

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 1>on summer break right now. Tell you a little bit

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>about my son. Tremaine is is a very introspective, thoughtful,

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:17.239
<v Speaker 1>hard working young man. He epitomizes what you would want

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.239
<v Speaker 1>out of a son. You want your kids to be

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>better than you. So I need training to be a

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 1>better for a husband to me, a better man and

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>me and a businessman than me at the end of

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>the day, and want your son to be better than you,

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 1>and and you're seeing the pitfall that you've made, and

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't want him to make the same pitfall. I

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be a great college athlete. The bar to

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>be better than Tremaine Senior is hot an All state

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>basketball and football player in Colorado. Tremaine Senior eventually played

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 1>college basketball at the University of Southern California. My goal

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 1>was to get a college scholarship pay for my school.

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Was so Tremaine then think about Tremine is that the

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 1>next evolution is we know you're gonna get a scholarship.

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Now how much further came His dream is different because

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 1>of looking at the NFL L was. So it's just

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 1>evolution of life and I think we've we've kind of

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>maximized it. This has been a lifelong process for Tremaine Senior,

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>like the situation with Mackay and his dad, Jerome Tremaine

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Senior coach Tremaine Junior in football and basketball throughout his youth,

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>pushing him hard along the way. One thing I never

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do is I never wanted people to think

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that it was daddy ball with him and and and

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I was giving a special treatment. So I kind of

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>wrote him a little bit harder. But I did that

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>too because I wanted him to understand what hard work

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>was about, what it was like and for no one

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 1>to give you anything. Tremayne Senior knew what it took

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>to excel at a very high level in sports and

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>what it took to motivate his son, but all of

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 1>that came with the price. Having your dad as a

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>coach is no walk in the park at all, by

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 1>any stretch of the imagination. It comes days where you

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>know Dad and and coach just you danced that line

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 1>to where you're not sure which one you had have

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's obviously hard on you, and he's obviously

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>wants the best out of you. Sometimes he greens coach

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>back home in place of Dad, and a lot of

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>the conversations you have. It's it's a lot of coach conversations,

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and you know, as a kid, sometimes you want to

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>have those dad conversations, but you're not sure if you

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>can have them because the coach switched still on. You know,

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that was tough. There were it was some tough days

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 1>where you know, I felt like I didn't have a

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>dad I could talk to about certain problems. He was

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>only coached to me. And then, uh, it kind of

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>it weighed on me for sure. This road to draft

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>day as father and son coaching player senior and junior

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>wasn't easy for either of them. It wasn't always like

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>this between us. It took us a minute. And then

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 1>by time, you know, Tremaine Turn, I think it was

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 1>sixteen years old, we took a cross country trip to

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>to do some uh look at some schools, and we

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 1>really got a chance to kind of get to know

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>each other. And well, I got a chance to explain

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>to him why I was so tough on him. And

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and once that happened, we became we can't really close.

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Tough love to raise a strong man and wanting a

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>better life for your son, pushing him to succeed past

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:15.280
<v Speaker 1>the level you were able to We hear these stories

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>over and over again in sports for good reason. And

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>our relationship now is it's really good now at some

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>point now to where you know, any big decisions that

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 1>he makes in his life, for anything that he's gonna

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 1>do and and things that he wants to do, you know,

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna bounce it off of me. Now. It's a great,

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:34.280
<v Speaker 1>great opportunity for me to look back and to see,

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, the fruits of our hard work that we

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>put in before and and now you know what he's

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.720
<v Speaker 1>getting right now is everything that he works, he should

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 1>be proud. I mean, I actually got a tattooed of

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 1>his tone number in my form to kind of remind

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 1>me of the man I want to be. Um kind

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:51.760
<v Speaker 1>of father. I want to be. One thing I've always

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:55.799
<v Speaker 1>loved about my father, He's lived it and he's a

0:34:55.840 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>guy that cares. This father's son bond is grained in

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>the culture of football. It's been in the dna of

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>the sports since the very beginning, from all the countless

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 1>fathers who coached their sons and youth leagues, growing up

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:11.760
<v Speaker 1>to more than two hundred sets of fathers and sons

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>who played professional football. The famous NFL family dynasties like

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Archie Manning and his son's Peyton and Eli, and all

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>the other dads who played arena football like Jerome Beckton,

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>or even college basketball like Tremaine Sr. They all want

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 1>their kids to go a step further, be more successful

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:33.320
<v Speaker 1>and share the sport they love. He's confident, He's confident

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>in his ability, and he you know, he commands a room.

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 1>He's a natural born leader. I definitely get that from

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 1>my father. To go through what he went through and

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:47.320
<v Speaker 1>to strive for excellence and really dominated what he did. Um,

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's that's adible. That's something that made me think, like, hey,

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 1>you know that's in me. I think Tremaine is a protector.

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 1>He protects quarterbacks, running backs, but he also creates holes.

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>He he's aggressive, he's athletic. I think he's one of

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the most hardworking players I've ever been around in my lifetime,

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>as a basketball player and as a basketball coach, and

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 1>as a football player and as a football coach. As

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>a man, Tremaine as a leader. He makes his own

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 1>rules in his life, and he's willing to put the

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.840
<v Speaker 1>work in to make sure that he can follow those rules.

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:25.840
<v Speaker 1>My hopes for Tremaine are very exactly the same was

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 1>my hopes and dreams work form growing up. I want

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 1>them to continue to push the envelope. I wanted to

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:32.840
<v Speaker 1>be a leader. I want them to be one that

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't worry about following anyone else because he sets the

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 1>rules so people will follow him. It's clearly not just

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Tremaine Jr. Who hopes to be drafted in a week.

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 1>It's also his dad. It's Mackay and it's his dad,

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>It's the whole family. A moment to celebrate the hard work,

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 1>achievement and how far they've come, especially in their own relationship.

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess I can kind of compare it to when

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, the white coat family of doctors, Like you

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:05.439
<v Speaker 1>worked all this way and now you're, you know, officially professional, right,

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 1>You've done all the work this that in third, now

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 1>here's your white coat. Well stead of white coat, I

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:16.359
<v Speaker 1>get a number, uh draft or not? I'm just want

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>a number on the team, right, And that's that's all

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>you can ask for, just a chance. And that's what

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>drafting needs me. It's a chance, and then I can succeed,

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, grow warm, rooted at coming up on the

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 1>next episode of Drafted. Ever since September two thousand and nineteen,

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:45.479
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing this for my son, running back Keyshawn Vaughn.

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:47.799
<v Speaker 1>I call it grammy. I mean, I don't care who

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 1>in front of me, who trying to stop me. I

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.279
<v Speaker 1>don't care what team we're playing. I can't nobody step

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 1>of your away. I think he was just to more

0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>into my accent if I'm being honest most of the

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<v Speaker 1>year and cornerback, I remember in my coat saying one

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<v Speaker 1>day as I was a little skinny freshman and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have much confidence in myself, and he he was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be the next player that's gonna have multiple

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<v Speaker 1>offers coming out of here. Just like Dang, I got

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to do something special. Drafted as a production

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<v Speaker 1>of tree Fort Media, Clutch Sports Group, and I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>The executive producers are Kelly Garner, Lisa Amerman, Eric's a Lot,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean to Tone l Key, and me Keegan Michael Key.

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<v Speaker 1>The series is produced and written by Eric Weiner. Jared

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<v Speaker 1>brom is our coordinating producer. Tom Monahan is our senior

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<v Speaker 1>audio engineer. Mixed and edited by Steven Johnson. Additional production

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<v Speaker 1>help from Tim Shower, June Rosen, and Hayley Mandelberg. For

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