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Speaker 3: It is a Monday, lots going on. We are live.

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Speaker 3: It is the Herd. Wherever you may be and however

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Speaker 3: you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of

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Speaker 3: your day. Jamac I was thinking about this this morning

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Speaker 3: when a story broke, is that, you know, all of

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Speaker 3: us have budgets. Most of us have budgets, not everybody,

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Speaker 3: but you can kind of tell what people spend their

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Speaker 3: money on by the time they're fifty or sixty based

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Speaker 3: on the kind of financial situation they're in. You know,

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Speaker 3: tell my kids all the time, Dad doesn't have a

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Speaker 3: problem with you spending money, spend on the right stuff,

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Speaker 3: spending on smart stuff. And there's an NFL team that

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Speaker 3: has driven me crazy for about five years, the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: Steelers and breaking news this morning.

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Speaker 2: J mac.

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Speaker 4: They did it again this morning.

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Speaker 1: So the Steelers can't stop spending money on defense. So

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Speaker 1: this morning, what do you know, bounce around the league guy,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey twenty six and a half million dollars. The

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Speaker 1: Steelers went and got him. Now, they did move off

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Speaker 1: of Minka Fitzpatrick. But Minca is low maintenance, seven million

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Speaker 1: dollars a year, cheaper a leader in the room, not

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Speaker 1: a bounce around the league guy. So the Steelers can't

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Speaker 1: help themselves. Now they're spending seven and a half million

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Speaker 1: dollars more than they were yesterday in the secondary. And

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Speaker 1: for the record, Pittsburgh has led the NFL in defensive

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Speaker 1: spending three years in a row. This will guarantee it's four.

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Speaker 1: The New York Giants and the Steelers spend all their

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Speaker 1: money on defense. You know who spends it on offense?

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Speaker 1: The Rams and the Eagles have the two cheapest defenses today,

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Speaker 1: and the Chiefs spend the most money in the league

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Speaker 1: on offense. Chiefs, Steelers, Rams. What do they have in common? Momentum?

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Speaker 1: Winning perpetually interesting. In the NFL, everybody's got a budget,

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Speaker 1: it's called the cap. Where do you spend their money?

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Speaker 1: I've told my kids, my entire life. The two ease

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Speaker 1: education and experiences. That's where I'm going to spend my

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Speaker 1: money on great memorable things when dad has gone, great

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Speaker 4: All Right, if you're.

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Speaker 1: Spending on cars a third, if you're spending it on clothes,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be able to tell over time you

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Speaker 1: didn't spend it wisely. Stop spending money on defense. I thought, oh,

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Speaker 1: they're moving off Mika Fitzpatrick, who didn't have a great year.

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Speaker 1: I mean he was like fifty second ranked safety. A

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Speaker 1: good player, but a team leader. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: they're number one in defensive spending and they don't have

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Speaker 1: the TJ. Watt contract finalized. That's going to be forty

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Speaker 1: to deal with. And he's your best defensive player and

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey two things. He's a very very loose player.

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Speaker 1: That's why the Rams moved off him. They wouldn't bad

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Speaker 1: mouth him publicly. But he's kind of an independent guy

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Speaker 1: doing his own thing. He's an independent contractor. He's going

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Speaker 1: of it. So he's also a player. He's very dependent

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Speaker 4: He was loose, he made mistakes.

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Speaker 1: When the Rams got him, I thought at his he

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Speaker 1: So there's just a lot of people in life, and

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Speaker 1: every year. The Steelers and the Giants keep doubling down

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Speaker 1: They added Hassan Reddick, didn't really need him, and then

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Speaker 1: he used to be on defense and is not an

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Speaker 1: to say this probably don't want to watch the New

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Speaker 1: of what the New York Jets are doing, and that

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Speaker 1: pay pre TJ Watt contract not good. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: something that is good. So we are one year away,

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Speaker 1: I think it's eleven months. One year away from the

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Speaker 1: World Cup on US soil. And it's a biggie because

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Speaker 1: this is the best group of talent we've ever had

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Speaker 1: in terms of attacking and scoring. Now many of them

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Speaker 1: are not playing. This is sort of our B team.

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Speaker 1: But we were on a four game skid before the

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Speaker 1: Gold Cup. But our biggest issue before the Gold Cup

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Speaker 1: is we don't have a goalie. Before yesterday we didn't

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Speaker 1: have a goalie, and last night we finally found one.

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Speaker 1: Matt Freeze, who may have struggled for a moment against Haiti,

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Speaker 1: but against Costa Rica in the shootout, he was absolutely brilliant.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Matt Freeze in the shootout three different

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Speaker 1: want about shootouts. I hear people they're not real soccer.

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Speaker 1: Yes they are, Yes they are. They're better than our

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Speaker 1: and they're all about execution. And that's the one thing

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Speaker 1: we were worried about with Team USA without Christian Polisic.

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Speaker 1: Because when you have Polisic, it always seems to work.

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Speaker 1: So tip of the cap to Tyler Adams and Malik

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Speaker 4: But we did not have a goalie.

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Speaker 1: In fact, on the pregame show, our guys were saying

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Speaker 1: had And We've had incredible goalies in my lifetime. We're

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Speaker 1: not good enough. Matt Freeze yesterday the greatest moment in

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Speaker 1: the entire Gold Cup, not just for us. It was

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Speaker 1: tension filled and by the way, wasn't the world last

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Speaker 1: World Cup decided.

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Speaker 4: By p case.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna spend some time

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Speaker 1: debating whether or not shootouts matter. They're all about execution

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Speaker 1: and that's what wins in the World Cup. Details goaltending

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Speaker 1: and execution. And also on Mauricio Pochettino, it should be

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Speaker 1: noted made three changes to the lineup and two of

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Speaker 1: the guys that were inserted in scored, so that momentum

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Speaker 1: as we're onto the semis, regardless of what happens next,

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Speaker 1: you have a sense of execution. We found our goalie,

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Speaker 1: which is absolutely essential in the World Cup. And we

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Speaker 1: always talk about offensive lines in the NFL. You're just

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Speaker 1: not going to a Super Bowl with a bad old line.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes has been blown out twice in his career,

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Speaker 1: like humiliated twice in Super Bowls when the old line

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Speaker 1: was a mess. You can't win a Super Bowl with

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Speaker 1: a bad old line. And you're not winning a World

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Speaker 1: the group stage unless you're really good in goal at

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Speaker 1: Matt Freeze yesterday talked about his remarkable performance.

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Speaker 4: Penalties are my thing.

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Speaker 5: You know, I've been the plane ride over here to

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Speaker 5: UH to Minnesota, I was studying the penalties and so

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Speaker 5: you know, I've been stunning them all week and I

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Speaker 5: goalkeeper coach Tony Jimenez, and uh, you know, he was

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Speaker 5: the here's the reason I saved his made.

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Speaker 1: So I gotta tell you, j Mac, there's very few

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Speaker 1: things in sports in America globally that are more riveting

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Speaker 1: was like a real moment, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: when Burholter's son misses, I'm like, oh, no, this is

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Speaker 4: No, this can't happen.

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Speaker 1: But our guys delivered and it was about as good

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Speaker 4: So tip of the cap to our guys.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and let's be real, they are heavy favorites in

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Speaker 6: the semifinals against Guatemala.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and we're looking at.

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Speaker 6: A USA Mexico final, which would be incredible obviously for

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Speaker 6: the country.

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Speaker 4: For soccer fans.

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Speaker 6: I will say soccer purists, Colin, they hate pks as

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Speaker 6: an ending. Yeah, they're like all this running around for

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Speaker 6: two you know, two hours and we end up penalty kicks.

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Speaker 6: So silly, But you're right, thrilling television, just gripping.

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Speaker 1: Well, remember, if you run around for two hours, the

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Speaker 1: last thing that's going to decide it is running around

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Speaker 1: for another fifteen minutes. This is soccer, perhaps not at

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Speaker 1: its purest form, but at its most crucial form of execution.

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Speaker 1: I mean when you watch the great teams that win

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Speaker 1: the World Cup, goal scores and goalkeeping decide World Cups.

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Speaker 1: That's what decides it. The great attacker, the great score,

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Speaker 1: and somebody makes a great save and you put them

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Speaker 1: up front, up close and personal. This is what's going

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Speaker 1: to decide this match. And again, if you go ninety

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Speaker 1: minutes and you're tied, often in the blazing sun, I

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Speaker 1: don't need you to play longer. I want execution and

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Speaker 6: Let me quickly add you know we talked about like, Hey,

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Speaker 6: this is the B team with some C guys. They're

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Speaker 6: not going to be in the World Cup. Freeze just

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Speaker 6: made a case to Potchat. Hey, man, I know Matt

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Speaker 6: Turner's a guy I won in. I want a legitimate shot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, Where Colin was wrong, Where Colin

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Speaker 1: was right, Lebron opted in. I had said this was

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Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, Sean Payton ranked number two coaching

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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves declined ninety million from the Lakers. Why his

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Speaker 1: Because apparently often in his reps CNA player where Colin

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Speaker 1: All right, So been on this for a while. The

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Speaker 1: Eagles and the Chiefs spend all their money on offense.

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Speaker 1: The league ten years ago, after that CTE check they

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Speaker 1: wrote moved to benefiting the offense. So there's limitations even

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Speaker 1: a great defense. Couple of years ago the Niners had

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Speaker 1: a great defense. They faced Mahomes he ate them alive.

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Speaker 1: There's just limitations on what a great defense can do

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Speaker 1: because of rule changes. So the Steelers this morning said

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Speaker 1: we're gonna spend even more money on defense. We'll move

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Speaker 1: off MinC and get Ramseys. Like, guys, how about just

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Speaker 1: move off MinC go get more offense.

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Speaker 4: So what do you make of the Jalen Ramsey move

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Speaker 4: to the Steelers?

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Speaker 8: Now, Listen, the Steelers are just gonna do what the

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Speaker 8: Steelers do. They do not care about the rest of

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Speaker 8: the league. They don't care about what anybody else does.

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Speaker 8: They say, Hey, we're the Steelers, this is how we operate.

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Speaker 8: So I don't think that's going to change. But I

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Speaker 8: do think this it looks like they're building a team

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Speaker 8: to stop the Cincinnati Bengals. Like when I look at them,

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Speaker 8: I really feel like they're coming up with, like what

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Speaker 8: is our identity going to be. It's almost like they

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Speaker 8: have confidence in what they have, like what we have

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Speaker 8: can take care of the Baltimore Ravens, like.

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Speaker 9: We're good, But like, man, I don't know how we're

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Speaker 9: going to stop the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 8: Like I do believe that there's a fear there of

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Speaker 8: like personnel wise, we don't match up well with them,

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Speaker 8: and the Steelers and some other teams that have always

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Speaker 8: been like thirty four defenses, three down linemen, four linebackers,

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Speaker 8: they're playing more of this four two five four down linemen,

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Speaker 8: two inside or four rushers, two inside backers, and five dbs.

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Speaker 8: And I think what kind of dbs is where they've

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Speaker 8: you know.

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Speaker 9: They now have some flexibility.

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Speaker 8: They basically have three corners to go to go up

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Speaker 8: and fight, kind of like that Joe Burrow three wide

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Speaker 8: receiver set.

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Speaker 9: So I think that's a trend league wide.

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Speaker 8: Certainly the Steelers look like they feel pretty good about

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Speaker 8: that trend as well. Yeah, okay, well listen, if I'm

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Speaker 8: going to give you some confidence about it, I do

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Speaker 8: think that there's a play here for the offense. You know,

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Speaker 8: like Arthur Smith ident last year you saw he went

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Speaker 8: with a lot of twelve personnel. Thirteen personnel meaning two

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Speaker 8: tight ends in the game or three tight ends in

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Speaker 8: the game. I think they just want to get a

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Speaker 8: little more talented.

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Speaker 9: At that spot. Three different guys.

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Speaker 8: They've got Friar Move, They've got Darnell Washington, who's a

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Speaker 8: joy to watch in the running game.

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Speaker 9: I mean, he's a monster.

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Speaker 8: And then they go get John new Smith, a player

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Speaker 8: that I think is more wide receiver than his tight end.

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Speaker 9: Arthur Smith's been with him a few times, loves him.

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Speaker 8: I know that as this as the league goes to

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Speaker 8: kind of what I was talking about, five dbs on

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Speaker 8: the field more, the Steelers and Arthur Smith look like

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Speaker 8: they're saying, Okay, you want to get cute with five vb's,

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Speaker 8: We're going to smash it down your throat.

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Speaker 9: We're going to have a bruising, bruising running game.

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Speaker 8: And we can still throw it with these guys, shifts, motions,

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Speaker 8: all that kind of stuff. It's identity for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Again,

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Speaker 8: we don't care what the rest of the league is doing.

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Speaker 8: We're doing what we're doing, and I think having a

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Speaker 8: clear identity is very.

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Speaker 1: Helpful, you know, I think over I obviously people have

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Speaker 1: been hiring offensive coaches more than defensive coaches. Whenever there's

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Speaker 1: a big opening, you olways see four offensive guys for

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Speaker 1: a defensive guy. And that's not to say guys like

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Speaker 1: Demko Ryans can't work on the other side. But I

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Speaker 1: was also thinking about something the other day, is that

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Speaker 1: I there's a lot of people. Mike McDaniel came from

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Speaker 1: the Niners. Shanahan may do a lot of motion, but

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Speaker 1: he's really like his dad. He's all about physical run games.

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Speaker 1: Mcveigh's a culture guy. Shanahan's a culture guy. Rabel's a

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Speaker 1: culture guy. Dan Campbell's a culture guy. The Harbawser culture guys.

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's got more of a culture guy. Is that

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Speaker 1: I look at Miami and Mike McDaniel and it's like

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Speaker 1: he took the Niners. He went to Miami with a

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Speaker 1: similar quarterback, a smaller guy, not a huge arm, moves

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Speaker 1: a little accurate. But I don't think he's built a culture.

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Speaker 1: I think it's all sizzle and no steak and Miami.

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Speaker 1: To me this year, when I hear about coaches in

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Speaker 1: the hot seat, I'm like, I look at Miami and

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Speaker 1: all I hear the media love Mike McDaniel, but there's

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Speaker 1: no there there, And I think we're moving into a

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Speaker 1: time in the NFL culture beyond.

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Speaker 4: Just schematics matters and.

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Speaker 1: That Mike McDaniel may be clever, but the physical culture

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Speaker 1: and component of that Niners offense, he didn't bring it

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Speaker 1: to Miami and I don't buy them, and I think

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Speaker 1: they probably finished fourth and two years ago they were

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Speaker 1: the talk of the league.

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Speaker 4: Where are you on Miami.

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Speaker 1: McDaniel the motion to the sizzle because it's not working

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Speaker 1: and it's going backwards.

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Speaker 9: Are you saying fourth in the AFC East? Is that

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Speaker 9: what you're saying?

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Speaker 4: Yes, Wow, that's that's bold.

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Speaker 8: I'd put him third. Listen, culture matters one hundred percent.

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Speaker 8: I think it matters more than next as and o's

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Speaker 8: most of the time, especially in football, especially when you're

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Speaker 8: in a city like Miami with all the distractions that

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Speaker 8: are down there, not in Green Bay, Wisconsin or something

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Speaker 8: like that. So the distractions are real. That's a real thing.

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Speaker 8: I kind of believe in Mike McDaniel is I kind

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Speaker 8: of believe in him as a coach. I even believe

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Speaker 8: that he can be the right culture guy. But no,

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Speaker 8: it's it's Listen, they're swimming upstream just a little bit.

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Speaker 8: Even in their division, the Buffalo Bills, like everyone thinks that, hey,

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Speaker 8: that's going to be the winner in that division.

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Speaker 9: The Patriots are vastly improved this year.

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Speaker 8: They clearly have an identity. You know, you just look

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Speaker 8: at the teams last year that had double digit wins.

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Speaker 9: The AFC is tough. Seven teams are going to get in.

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Speaker 8: An explosive team like the Cincinnati Bengals didn't even make

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Speaker 8: the playoffs last year. The Steelers clearly got better. The

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Speaker 8: AFC West is talented. If you don't win in Miami,

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Speaker 8: a team with a great fan base that expects to

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Speaker 8: win and they've got fireworks.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, people are going to be calling for your for

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Speaker 9: your job. That's going to be the nature of it.

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Speaker 8: But the creativity and the identity of what they can

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Speaker 8: be offensively, it clearly is is there. Like it's the

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Speaker 8: potential is there. It's an interesting thing that you bring up.

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Speaker 8: I don't know that I would say fourth at the

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Speaker 8: end of the day. I feel like he was hired

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Speaker 8: though to get to back on track.

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Speaker 9: He did a pretty darn good job of that.

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Speaker 8: I think they just need to take a next step,

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Speaker 8: and sometimes it's just tough late in the year. Those

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Speaker 8: warm weather teams, they don't perform at the end of

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Speaker 8: the year the way that they did at the beginning

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Speaker 8: of the year because they got to go on the

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Speaker 8: road and play somewhere like Buffalo or New England.

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Speaker 9: That'll be the test for them this year.

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Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck, it is a Monday. He's at an undisclosed,

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Speaker 1: very nice location, which I'll be close to in a

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Speaker 1: couple of days.

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Speaker 4: It is great scene.

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Speaker 9: My man, it's Nan Tuckett. Just say it now.

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Speaker 1: I just outed you on your vacation, all right, Matt Hasselbeck,

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Speaker 1: who's been a joint since he came to the show.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. No, I was thinking about this j

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Speaker 1: Maac is that sometimes like the media, and we know this.

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Speaker 1: The media likes the media. And Mike mcdai was seen

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Speaker 1: as sort of you know, he's a small guy physically,

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Speaker 1: but he's smart. He was kind of funny at the podium.

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Speaker 1: The NFL is a sport of big men. Big men.

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Speaker 1: They were big in high school, they're big in college.

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Speaker 1: They're big physical men and they respond to other big men.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at what's happening in the NFL. McVeigh,

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Speaker 1: you say, well, mcveigh's not big. McVeigh is an athlete,

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Speaker 1: he's culture, he's smart, he owns a room.

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Speaker 4: I mean not debatable.

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Speaker 1: Like there's an argument that McVeigh is probably the best

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Speaker 1: guy at the podium in the league. And I think, Miami,

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Speaker 1: it's squirrely, it's fun, it's smart.

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Speaker 4: I am three years into this Mike McDaniel thing.

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Speaker 6: What are they I'd think it's less about him because

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Speaker 6: he's smart, articulate, really cuts through to the players. You

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Speaker 6: see behind the scenes. It's less about how the team

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Speaker 6: is built. And honestly, I don't think they've done a

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Speaker 6: good job. I'm sure you saw Tyreek Hill just chimed

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Speaker 6: in on the trade with the Will Smith meme from

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Speaker 6: Fresh Prince a beat like it's over.

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Speaker 4: There's nobody here.

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Speaker 6: Tyreek Hill has been chirping about getting me, getting him

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Speaker 6: out of there for like two years, dealing with Jalen Ramsey.

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Speaker 6: To me, this Dolphins move, they're rearranging the deck chairs

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Speaker 6: on the Titanic.

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Speaker 9: They're going down.

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Speaker 6: Everybody knows it, and they're just trying some last ditch

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Speaker 6: effort here. It's not gonna matter, But it's not on

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Speaker 6: McDaniel though, well.

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Speaker 1: It ultimately has to be on the coach. You can

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Speaker 1: blame anybody in New England. Bela chick got fired at

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Speaker 1: the end. You're paying the coach fifteen million. It's on

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Speaker 1: the coach. You can't blame the GM because you're not winning.

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Speaker 4: Geunemployed for what like a week? No, no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe Mike McDaniel gets a second nod. What

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Speaker 1: don't I don't, I don't. It's got a Pro Bowl quarterback.

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Speaker 1: They've gone backwards for three years.

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Speaker 9: And why when I hike Bowl quarterbacks out their.

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Speaker 4: Garbage, that's on McDaniel.

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Speaker 9: That's it was quarterback for getting hurt.

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Speaker 4: All the time. Okay, on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: My point being, you tell me the market that's going

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Speaker 1: to buy a coach is that in his first job,

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Speaker 1: Remember Miami won I think it was nineteen games the

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Speaker 1: two years before he got there. They won twenty with

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Speaker 1: him in the first two years, one more, spending big

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Speaker 1: time money and getting stars, and then went backwards last year.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I would definitely disagree. I think McDaid he has

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Speaker 6: a mark almost instantly for another head coach based on what.

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Speaker 6: He's an offensive mastermind. It's not his fault. The defense

632
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Speaker 6: got stop and nosebleed and the offensive lines of train wreck.

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Speaker 6: The GM in the front office in Miami has been

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Speaker 6: the downfall McDaniel.

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Speaker 4: Again, I would not blame him, Colin.

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Speaker 2: I think he's excellent.

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Speaker 1: I mean, at some point in this league, the best

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Speaker 1: coaches keep winning. Andy Reid wins regardless of quarterback. Even

639
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Speaker 1: in Philly he was getting ANFC championships.

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Speaker 4: He had Donovan McNabb.

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Speaker 1: Come on, who's a not a top fifty quarterback ever,

642
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Speaker 1: not even close?

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Speaker 3: Not so.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's not disputable.

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Speaker 6: But Donnie Donald McNabb was a good quarterback. They had

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Speaker 6: a great defense in Philly. Yeah, reads a good coach.

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Speaker 1: Come on, No, you're not listening. I'm not denying he is.

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Speaker 1: You're saying McDaniels is. I'm saying, where's the proof. Where's

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Speaker 1: the proof?

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Speaker 4: Well, they've got into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Has any team been humiliated more by Buffalo in the

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Speaker 1: league than Miami? They get humiliated by them. They can't

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Speaker 1: compete in their own division with the best, forget the

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Speaker 1: rest of the AFC. I mean again, I go back

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Speaker 1: to what's the market for you? Tell me I'm an owner. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we've got a job opening. Let's hire a guy that young.

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Speaker 1: His first job he failed at in a market that

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Speaker 1: free agents love to play, no state tax awqua water.

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Speaker 6: So who's the equivalent of the NFC? Would you say

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Speaker 6: it's the floor? Because he's not some big imposing figure.

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Speaker 6: He got delt Aaron Rodgers won a lot. Now Rodgers

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Speaker 6: is gone, and what are we seeing from the floor?

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Speaker 4: Playoffs? The Dolphins got to.

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Speaker 9: The playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Under green Bay has no owner. Free agents won't play there.

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Speaker 1: The division is there are no bad teams in that division.

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Speaker 9: Okay.

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Speaker 1: And and by the way, you're dealing with a quarterback

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love who is not who sat for three years.

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Speaker 1: We still don't know how good he is. Toua was

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Speaker 1: a first round pick who's already made a Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a huge to a fan, but

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Speaker 1: he's made Pro Bowls. He his comp was Drew Brees,

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Speaker 1: who was Jordan Love's comp? Who would you rather have

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love or to a well, I'd rather have Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love because he's bigger with a better arm. Today I

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Speaker 1: would three years ago, I wouldn't. When McDaniel took the job,

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Speaker 1: I would have rather had two of than Jordan Love.

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Speaker 1: Now going into this year, I would take Jordan Love.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so Zach Taylor or Mike McDaniel, Who would you

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Speaker 6: rather have his head coach?

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't hire either.

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Speaker 1: I mean if I was an owner and there was

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Speaker 1: an opening and they were on the market, those would

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Speaker 1: not be choices.

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Speaker 6: So now Brian Dabele probably would be my choice over McDaniel.

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Speaker 4: But yes, what has Brian dabel done as a head coach?

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Speaker 1: Got Daniel Jones to the playoffs and won a playoff game.

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Speaker 4: Mine, he got to the.

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Speaker 6: Playoffs, they just said what they didn't want a playoff game?

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Speaker 6: And now Davie's backsliding badly.

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Speaker 4: But you're telling me he's got a market. My take is.

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Speaker 1: What top tier team is like, not even average team.

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Speaker 1: Well what listen, the Dolphins weren't good before him, they're

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Speaker 1: getting worse now.

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Speaker 9: How's they said?

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannet I would argue this in area. But people

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Speaker 1: may criticize Brian Flores. Brian floor is a better head coach.

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Speaker 1: He didn't get along with Tua. Brian Flores took the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins over.

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Speaker 4: In eight weeks. Eight weeks. We're going into year four

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Speaker 4: with McDaniel.

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Speaker 1: In eight weeks the Dolphins were an elite defense and

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Speaker 1: had elite special teams. In eight weeks eight, we're on

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Speaker 1: year four for McDaniel. Nobody's got the Dolphins being elite.

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Speaker 1: This year you got culture problems Tyreek Hilling, Jalen Ramsey.

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Speaker 1: Neither one either wants to play there, one's gone. One

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Speaker 1: could be on McDaniel though.

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Speaker 6: So by the way, they went nine to eight plays

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Speaker 6: eleven and six playoffs lost to the Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: No harm in that.

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Speaker 6: And in their first year they had Skyler what's his

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Speaker 6: face at quarterback as tour was hurt, and then last

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Speaker 6: year eight and nine. So in three years he's twenty

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Speaker 6: eight and twenty three with two playoff trips.

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Speaker 4: I mean, are you zero and two? Lafleur's got three playoffs?

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Speaker 4: Where's one for you?

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Speaker 5: Are you ready?

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell or Mike McDaniel. Dan Campbell, he can build

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Speaker 1: a culture. Their culture is one of the best in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Dan Campbell in the Lions culture. Whether you

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Speaker 1: like Dan or not, and I was not a huge

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Speaker 1: fan initially, their culture is out of this world. The

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Speaker 1: the Lion's culture is we said there's three years ago

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Speaker 1: nobody in the league plays harder than Detroit. They've had

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Speaker 1: major personnel issues on the defensive side when Hutchinson got hurt.

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Speaker 1: They have no defense their culture. I mean, think about this.

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Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur won two games last year with Malik Willis

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Speaker 1: at quarterback, who who Tennessee drafted. An hour later said yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's not gonna work. I mean it was like a

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Speaker 1: second round pick. They were like, yeah, I think you

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Speaker 1: got to forget what round he was drafted in. But

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Speaker 1: they literally bailed on him before he was like halfway

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Speaker 1: through his contract. Lafleur won two games with him. That

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Speaker 1: was And if I recall he got Malik Willis, he

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Speaker 1: wasn't even on the roster like a month earlier. Yes,

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Speaker 1: a third round picky. He wasn't on the like the

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Speaker 1: offseason roster. I think they brought him in due to

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Speaker 1: an injury and boom, they brought him in August twenty sixth.

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Speaker 9: This is interesting.

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Speaker 4: You win, though, and he wins two games in September.

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Speaker 9: I did not know you were this anti Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 4: I'm not anti. It's the numbers zero and two in

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Speaker 4: the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when he walked to the playoffs that Josh Allen.

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Speaker 6: In Buffalo and Patrick Mahomes and KC. Where's the Hartt?

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Speaker 6: That the backup quarterback?

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Speaker 4: What are we doing?

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Speaker 6: The Jets would take him in a heartbeat, a heartbeat

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Speaker 6: so they can have an offense.

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Speaker 4: They've been an offense in a decade. Collin the Juts

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Speaker 4: just hired another coach. They have to wait a while.