WEBVTT - A Dy-NASTY Plot: RHOA Recap 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.760 Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.239 I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.520 favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.360 and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:23.040 Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:27.680 Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.680 addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:32.960 scripted as well. 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:42.560 All right, so let's get into the Real Housewives of Atlanta. 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:47.120 Look, this was a Claudia Dustin. 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:52.280 Yes, this was a weekend. 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:59.160 Pure fun, hingedness was with. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:03.480 Birmingham Huntsville and what I will say, I agree with 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:06.600 you in the comment This, to me was the best 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:10.880 episode of Real Housewives of Atlanta this season. I loved 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.639 every minute of it. I could not wait to talk 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:18.840 to you guys about it, because baby, I have tons 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:22.720 of things to say, and who knows, I may have 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:28.640 tons of exclusive, exclusive information to offer as well. 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:30.200 Do it. 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.360 The ladies are in Dallas, as you all know, and 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:40.000 it started with the continuation of Porsche versus Kelly Portia. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:42.880 Made a statement that. 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:47.160 They that she and. 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:49.520 Kelly were almost scissor sisters. 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:55.480 Okay, And for y'all who don't know, scissor sisters are 0:01:55.600 --> 0:02:05.680 like the scissors that oh that, yes, okay, Dustin not this. 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:14.800 Yeah, her, she ain't never gonna live that down either. 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.080 No matter what she purports herself to be, we will 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:21.560 always remember her doing that sign language at that table, 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:27.160 all right. 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:31.040 So Porsche alleged that, look, I did so much scissoring 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:31.480 that I. 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:32.919 Had a blood clot in my finger. 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:35.400 Fingering. 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.040 Well, you know when things are tight and you stick 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.640 your so one thing that I do want to get into, 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:47.720 besides my weekend was and my blood clot was the 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:53.639 fact that just said that she saw Kelly. This happened 0:02:53.760 --> 0:03:02.040 last year, and that Kelly saw porsch just latinum puss. 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:06.519 And wanted some of it that, you know, Portia said, 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:07.600 So I'm gonna do the visual. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:12.080 So Portia said, you know, she was getting ready doing 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.520 her thing in the bathroom and she's like, you know, 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:19.320 I got the shower and you know, I'm like half dressed, 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:23.920 and I left the door open, and she said that 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:28.920 Kelly walked by and that Kelly did this, And Porchia 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:33.240 said that Kelly was so enamored with her platinum Puss 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:37.200 because she said it looked ripe and juicy. So because 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:43.440 of that, she said Sami was also there. Porsche said 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:52.280 that Kelly then mentioned that she wanted to see Porsche again. 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:54.840 When they got back to the house. She's like, I 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.760 can come to the room and you know whatever, and 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.200 Porsche said, in that moment, she knew that Kelly wanted 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:05.680 her Platinum Puss, and she said, oh girl, I'm tired, 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.760 I gotta go, and she went into her room and 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.920 that's how she discovered that Kelly allegedly was into her. 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.480 For the record, because I am a journalist. Hey, Portia, Hey, Claudia. 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.719 Kelly has denied this. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:26.400 Smia has said she does not remember that happening at all, 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:31.919 and Kelly said that she is not into girls, but 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.280 that if she was, it would not be Portia. 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:37.840 Starting with Claudia Jordan's. 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:42.440 Of course set up, dude, do you believe this story? 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:43.960 Of course? 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:44.680 Line? 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.359 And you could tell on her face the rest of 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:52.039 a trip on a bus like it was No, absolutely not. 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:57.080 Platinum is a stretch at this point. No one in 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.160 their forties and fifties has a platinum pussy. I'm just 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.120 letting you know right now, and I'm fifty three. I 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.239 would never say that, oh platinum plus, see, that's something 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.120 you run back in like ninety seven, ninety eight, ninety nine, 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:09.680 two thousand, maybe two thousand and five, maybe up to 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.520 two thousand, all them bodies since then. And it's not 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.040 a shaming. I'm just saying, we all this together. It's 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:18.960 not platinum anymore. Like you've had multiple husbands, boyfriends, girlfriends, 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.800 all that. Like, I need women to stop thinking that 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:23.720 everyone's coochy is platinum. 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.640 It's not. I stop saying that. 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:31.120 I think it's so stupid when we're out this platinum puss. 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:36.320 And the qualifiers for platinum designation or what exactly. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.720 I would say platinum if you have a minimum of 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:40.400 a sub five bodies. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.440 Sub body count, I'm saying. 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:44.039 We're in tear. 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.320 I mean I have more than five bodies, and I 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:48.880 am okay with going on the rest of Okay, I 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.160 would never say platinum. Now, if I meet a man 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:54.160 that says it's platinum, who might have judge, we can 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:55.960 go with what his assessment is of it. 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:57.320 But we're not doing that. 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:01.359 Like you really think that Porsia has her leg up right? Okay, 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.600 let's just do the visuals. She came out the shower 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:03.920 and she. 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:10.360 Had her leg up right, and Kelly came on over. 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:15.680 A little small stuff was right when I could beat 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.279 the bat, and Porscha's like, noah, girl, I'm tired. 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.320 Girls. Please, none of that should happened, Okay. I remember 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.000 we went to uh, the Philippines. 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.080 We came back from a thirty five hour trip and 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:27.280 me Canny porscheman out. 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.080 Porscha was ready to get it in that night. She 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.120 ain't turned down. Nobody want to eat her pussy that night. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:36.080 It ain't happening. It's not happening. Porsche. You're funny, you're pretty, 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.360 you're cute, you dress great. You don't want to say this. 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.159 And you can tell she was lying the way she 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.680 said it. She's lying, y'all. I don't believe that for 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.800 one second. So you held on to that, to that 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.880 bus ride. You would have been said that because y'all, 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:50.160 I'm kind of going at it for a little bit. 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:51.599 I don't. I don't believe that for one second. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:52.440 I don't. 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.320 I don't believe it. I don't believe it. I don't 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.200 know about that. And Porsche, you're putting the lesbian thing 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:01.520 on Kelly. We are doing that. It's a lot of deffc. 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:01.839 Thing going on here. 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.479 It's a lot of like choo remember wonder Woman, A 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:09.080 bullet came here and she's like joo ju and it 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.040 would send it right on back to you. I don't 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.119 believe that it's cute for the little bus scene. 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:18.560 Not buying it, Jazz Mainley. 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:23.240 Brown, what can you say after that? I have in 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.239 my notes though, that Porsia. I think Porsia is lying 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.040 because of the way that she explained, and I want 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:30.920 to offer a correction to you know. 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.520 Ja, get a whole bath too. You're definitely not gonna 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:34.160 want to Eatkouchi. 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:38.080 That was a whole bath, thank you, Claudia. Another fellow journalist, 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:41.040 okay journalist a journalist, Carlos. She did not take a shower. 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:42.320 She did not say she took a shower. She said 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.440 she took a whole bath, which is you know, yeah, 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:46.800 so it wasn't a shower, but yeah. 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:51.200 She bring to the audience in the event, hey Tsha, 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:53.680 in the event that they don't know what a whole 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:57.840 bath is, can you explain to my educated audience what 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:02.160 the whole bath is? Ja Henley Brown, Well, I'm not 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:02.560 a hole. 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:03.160 So I don't know. 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:05.320 I'll tell you. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:09.200 So that was an alley for you, Claudia. Not that 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:10.280 I'm calling you a hole. 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.000 You wanted that one. I knew you wanted that one. 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.520 It's fine. I receive it because I'm living in my way. 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.440 Whatever y'all want to put on me. Yes, doctor Claudia 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:27.560 Jordan is here, so listen, I got my b. 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.760 About to parents out on this panel tonight. 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:37.240 First of all, me, Ricky Smiley, a whole bunch of 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.599 other people got honorary doctorates from school. 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.720 From school in Georgia. I don't remember, but the colors 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:43.439 was red and black. 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:45.120 Doctor Jordan's. 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.319 Yeah, me Brayley Evans, A whole bunch of was head 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:48.000 craft what. 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:49.880 First of all, you will not question me because I 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.040 had a ceremony and I had to get a cap and. 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:58.000 Gown credits online. 0:08:58.280 --> 0:08:59.440 I don't have no credits online. 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.600 Okay, Look, so look at the whole bath is Hey 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.719 don't have time for a shower because oh, Heski's shot 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.200 always take all of five minutes. 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.760 So let me prop my leg up over the sink. 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.800 And wash the essentials, the coops, the underarmps, and maybe 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.720 the face and neck, but probably they didn't because they 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.160 an ass because they were to eat groceries. Nowadays, I 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.160 guess so that's what a whole bat is. So I 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.160 don't think Listen, I don't care if you don't like 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.200 Kelly or not. I don't think Kelly was like, Ooh, 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.120 I want to eat whole bathcouchie. I don't think anyone 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:28.480 wants to. 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:34.240 Like, you want a full steaming water body. 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:37.400 Wash, washcloth, Yeah, that's what. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:39.040 That's not hate on Porsche. 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:44.000 That's he wants half Like if you wash chicken and 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.320 you're just like spray it with water, that's like a 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.280 whole bath for your chicken, Like you want to be 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.120 clean hot water. 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.200 Damn, am I gonna give it up tonight. I gotta 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:52.760 not drink. 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.040 Make sure you take your whole bath before you leave 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:57.520 out the door. 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.800 I took a real one and every very smooth new 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:03.720 if I wanted to, but I'm not going to. 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:05.360 I'll give you all the braw. 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:06.880 Yeah. 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.360 I thought it was stupid to even go back and 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:12.120 forth about I think that there was that probably that 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:15.440 situation probably did happen, but it was probably said in 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:16.880 a very joking manner. 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:17.720 You know what I'm saying. 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.040 Kelly was clear from the beginning that she is not 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.439 attracted to women. So that's that once a person says 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:27.240 something like that, it completely nullifies the other shit. So 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.360 we know that if it was said, I believe it 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.120 was said in a joking manner, the same way her 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.079 and Shamiel dance on each other or whatever. You know 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.800 what I'm saying. It's meaningless because you know, they're just joking. 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.240 So she probably did say something. They was in Miami, 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.640 turned up having a good time. She probably made a 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.480 lesbian joke like that or whatever, and Portia just used it, 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.320 you know, to her benefiting the argument. Can't be mad 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.000 at it. Just the housewives shit. You better keep something 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.280 in your tuck, you know what I mean. But I 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:54.679 you know, I thought it was good. 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.960 Yeah. I Also that also made me think back to 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:01.439 this whole story about Portia tell us that Kelly this 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.199 merry man. Now I'm like, I don't know if that's 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:04.680 true either. 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:09.559 Now that's not true, you guys, listen, we've seen this 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:10.320 story before. 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:12.800 It's it's fake news. 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:16.880 Like so the guy texts, oh, my boy just smashed Kelly. 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:18.880 So convenient right when you're in a good place. 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.959 But y'all used to be like, Yo, this is reality 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.800 one on one right, Carlos, I don't. 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.439 Know anything because I follow the reality of what happens 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:33.000 on camera. Now, one thing that you're doing both so 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:42.640 one thing that happened, by the way, that's all y'all know. 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:47.040 Not to like take a deep into someplace else, another territory, 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.880 but just so y'all know that then was the end, 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.200 was the beginning of the end of Shemia and Portia. 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:59.760 Just y'all. Just in case one the moment that then occurred, 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.720 poor should Me's friendship was never going to be the same. 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.319 We'll get into that late in this episode. 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:09.160 We need to do a separate episode on Patreon. We 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:13.160 need to do a deep dive into the Phedra, Smia, 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.840 Porscha and Candy of it all. We should do a 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:17.240 deep dive video. 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.480 Yes, it goes deeper than. 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:26.760 I probably should have offline, but I said. 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.400 Look, the good thing is I agree with you diving 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.800 down on Patreon. It's gonna go so deep it's going 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:38.600 to be platinum, Like, yes, you know my diving. 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.760 Deep nose dive. 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:45.160 AnyWho just call me. 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:48.720 Michael Phelps, Moby Dick. 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:56.640 So one thing that we have to get into thank 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:03.640 you somebody. All right, So the girls get to the 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:08.400 restaurant and Pinky Cole has her hit and the toilet 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:13.319 because she is drunk off of tequila. 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:14.200 And she can't handle it. 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.920 No more, no more, no more. The other girls at 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:22.680 the table, Key Michelle is silent because she's like, wait, 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:27.480 what just happened? You ladies just eviscerate each other and 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:33.520 now y'all laughing and y'all moving on. And she expressed 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:37.120 that and then also said that she feels like it's 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:41.560 not a safe space for her to say things that 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:46.040 she wants to say, which was interesting because in that moment, 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.720 I think we were all like, all right, this is 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:50.120 this is what they do. 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.160 You said what we all shut up? 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.880 Well, let's talk about it before we get into her 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:59.680 and Drew and Porsche and the oysters, because now happened 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:05.679 prior to that. Sticking to cay, Michelle fullL likes on 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:09.360 a safe space. What were your thoughts on that dust 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.240 and to the point you felt like, shut. 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:15.000 Up, shut up, we don't want to hear about it anymore. 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.800 How many episodes deep into this season, we also have 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.400 seen you be on other shows with a lot of 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.440 other people and to me. That's a crock you being 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.360 around people that's so different from you makes you be 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.720 in a shell. I don't believe it because your trapes 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:33.280 through Nashville in those white spaces of country music that 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.200 I'm sure sure are not welcoming to you. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.440 Or you've had to fight for all these years you've 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:38.480 talked about how you've had. 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:42.000 To fight tooth and nail and but to get your space, 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.120 and you know what I'm saying, country music, So that's 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.520 not easy for you. Either, give me a break. It's okay, 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.480 and it's easy for you to be around other women, 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.440 and you're getting paid to be here. So I'm tired 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:57.680 of it. It's not an enjoyable if that's her thing 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.120 this season or whatever, it's not fun to watch for 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.920 me at all. So I want her to shut up 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:07.040 about that. This is the same person who's shaking tables, 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:10.880 thrown candles, all of the things, and now all of 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.240 a sudden, this space isn't safe. You fought people on 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:17.560 your own show, your solo show that you had, you 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.720 had conflict of that type with people on the damn show, 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:24.160 So miss me with that, Like, I'm tired of it. 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.480 Yeah, I mean, it's probably not a safe space. I 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.280 think us as the viewers, though, like you're to your point, Dustin, 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.000 I don't think we want to know that you feel 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:36.200 that way, Like I think we want to feel like 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:37.160 you came in a little. 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:38.200 More prepared for a battle. 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:40.440 But I will say with k Michelle, I think I 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.920 think it is unfair for us to assume that she's 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:44.560 the same CAMA show from Love and Hip Hop, like 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.480 shaking the table for she'da got bags, right. We all 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:49.960 grow and evolve, and I think she's at a point 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:53.280 with what I'm witnessing on the show, is her trying. 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:57.600 Really hard to like show us that she's that different 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:58.479 ca Michelle. 0:15:58.920 --> 0:15:59.160 Right. 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.360 I think during the episode, as we'll get to it, 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:05.000 that ohkay Michelle definitely jumped out. But I think she's 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:06.920 trying really hard. She's in a constant battle. And I 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:11.000 want to read this thread from with Kendrick Tucker. He said, 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.000 I'm gonna say it, Ky Michelle is truly in a 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.160 lose lose situation. She can't act like anything other than 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.160 a flawless debutante because she comes from Love and Hip Hop, 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.480 So her trying not to lose her temper makes people 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.920 say she's not giving us anything. But if she explodes, 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.240 then is send the ghetto negress back to love and 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.680 hip hop double standards for her and her alone. And 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.440 I thought that was a really good observation of like 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.120 how people are watching Kate Michelle, and probably how she 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.360 assumes that we're watching her, So her feeling like it's 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:39.040 not a safe space is like it's not a safe 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.520 space with the cast. It's also not a safe space 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:45.040 with us as the audience either, because we're almost waiting 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:46.240 for her to do something wrong, you know. 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:46.600 What I mean. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:51.560 My only counterpoint right is that her most enjoyable scenes 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:55.080 thus far and for me overall, have nothing to do 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:58.360 with her being in conflict. True, Hey, Michelle is funny, 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.680 she's a fucking scene. She's a celebrity, so her life 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:04.800 is interesting. There's so many other things there that we 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:08.600 know she's already shown in other situations. Where is that 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.200 I don't want her to be on here. Her worth 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.399 is not measured by her being in conflict. For me 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.560 personally as a viewer, I'm just thicking the sad shit, 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:21.040 you know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, be funny, do 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.360 something else. You don't have to fight to be interested 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:24.880 but I think you. 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.159 Know, when you're like known for something right and then 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.840 you try to evolve, and then people kind of hope 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.239 that against you, like we wanted da da da da, 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:36.480 And I think that's the thing, and then you're like 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:37.639 you feel like you're damned. 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:38.200 Listen. 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.160 I almost want to came to shows biggest credits because 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:41.720 I'm friends of me. And when she hit meet me 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.240 the face of those flowers, I thought that was super 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.000 mean and I was like, damn, Like I did me, 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:45.760 me do anything. 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.080 I've deserved that? I didn't think so. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.600 And to Jazz's point, I love that you acknowledge that 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:52.600 people want to change and we don't have to be 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:54.600 stuck in like what if we made a mistake or 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.560 we was an asshole five years ago? Do we have 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:58.679 to always for the rest of our lives and we 0:17:58.880 --> 0:17:59.520 that forever? 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.280 I get that. So I think she's in a weird 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:03.119 place like you. 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.359 I'm sorry, Yeah, I think she's. 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.200 In a weird place, like she's like I want to 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.280 be better because she sees the comments like we see 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.480 the comments, right, But then when she does go there, 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:15.240 we're like, oh. 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.119 See that's that love and him. She wasn't supposed to 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:17.800 be on this show. 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.240 I think she feels like she has to be different 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.760 to like grove herself because of all the critics, including 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.360 I was one of them before she got on the show. 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.240 Almost damned if you do, damn if you don't you evolve, 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:32.240 You're boring. You don't evolve, You are just same o'ho 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:32.960 rat you. 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:33.200 Know what I mean. 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.600 And it's like, what do you want? 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.880 And that is a very hard environment to come into. 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:42.199 Established people, kind of established couple girls. You're the new 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.520 one there, but you're also like, well, I have this 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:45.119 big career. 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:47.040 It's got to be difficult to. 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:50.560 Kind of like yeah, and I every week I change 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:52.600 my opinion on whether or not she's here or there 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:53.760 as far as the show goes. 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.359 This week, I think she had some mellow points. 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:58.960 But then also I feel like, damn, do you not 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:00.960 know this show before you got here? Like you're so 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:02.920 emotional here, but you was a gangster on love and 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.680 hip hop. But dang Jad's point, you are allowed to grow. 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:07.680 So I don't know shit, but we're gonna keep my 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:09.040 watching and talking our shit. 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:10.640 What am I missing here? 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:10.840 Then? 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:13.040 And I respect, I love what both of you has 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.440 said tonight about Ky Michelle. So I feel like there's 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:20.040 a piece that I'm missing, Right, What is so challenging 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:23.600 for her when it comes to her assimilating with this group? 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:27.959 Because from my view, right, it seems like she's at 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:32.000 a great place professionally, she's at a great place personally, 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:36.919 and now she is a housewife. So what is there, like, 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:40.000 what is the part to me, like the conflict if 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:43.040 we eliminate the entire memory of her being on love 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.560 and hip hop, right, and just remove all that and 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.320 the stigma and all of that shit that is unfairly 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.560 being attached to her, because that's not fair. People can 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:55.840 change and grow, So take that out, right. What am 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:59.000 I missing about the disconnect of her being able to 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:03.040 come on this show be the same lively person she 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.520 is in her interview confessional scenes, right, but on camera 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:07.160 with the women. 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:09.159 What is the blockage there that I'm missing? 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:09.480 Y'all? 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:13.320 I think she has a hard time being in community 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:15.919 and friendship with women. By her own admission, I think 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:18.719 you said this is the first girls trip she's ever taken, 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:21.440