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Speaker 2: A happy Tuesday to you. Yeah, many taking the day

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Speaker 2: off getting ready for Thanksgiving week.

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Speaker 3: You know, I enjoying Taco Tuesday. Tequila Tuesday my preference

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Speaker 3: back home.

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Speaker 2: You know what it is, it's gun deer season. You

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Speaker 2: have a week where you can shoot deer with a

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Speaker 2: rifle with a gun, and so it starts started last

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Speaker 2: Saturday and goes through next Sunday. It's Thanksgiving week. You

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Speaker 2: could get a pass if you wanted to miss school

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Speaker 2: on Monday and Tuesday, you could get a special pass

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Speaker 2: to say you were hunting and you would be excused

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Speaker 2: from school yesterday or today. I think that's still the

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Speaker 2: case so much. They're gonna die an a lot of

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Speaker 2: them are. The deer are gonna die anyway, so don't

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Speaker 2: think of it is a bad thing. They're not gonna

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Speaker 2: make it through the winter. They're gonna be all over

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Speaker 2: the place, it's it's actually a good thing. But for

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Speaker 2: about yes, about nine days, nine days you have an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to use a gun to shoot the deer that

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Speaker 2: Whats going is this? Oh? Yeah, this is an annual

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Speaker 2: like this is a high point. Like families have their cabins,

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Speaker 2: they'll stay there for the week at least opening weekend,

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Speaker 2: which was this past weekend. Rights of passage for many

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Speaker 2: a youth being able to go on a hunting trip.

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Speaker 2: This is why people have land. That's why they purchase

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Speaker 2: land to go hunting. Io, Sam, you know what I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about, right, Yeah, to.

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Speaker 4: A lesser degree, like I guess because you guys have

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Speaker 4: more timber up there, so you know, but we have

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Speaker 4: plenty of deer in Iowa. Do people look at it

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Speaker 4: as an opportunity to swap out the turkey for venison?

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Speaker 4: Is like maybe we'll eat venison for Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 2: No, No, not at all, because a lot of what people

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Speaker 2: do is they'll they'll make venison, they'll make venison jerky,

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Speaker 2: they'll make venison steaks, They'll do a lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: with the meat. Some donate at the food banks as well.

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Speaker 2: It's the whole deal. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, there's a lot of deer in Iowa. They almost

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Speaker 4: like need to be thinned out exactly. I know that

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Speaker 4: sounds crazy, but it's like they're eating all your hostage.

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Speaker 2: It really sounds. It sounds I think for where Moncey

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I really don't know.

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Speaker 6: They're cute.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 4: They're cute, but they will eat all your plants and

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Speaker 4: they just proliferate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's also it's going to be winter, like they're Yes.

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Speaker 3: That's that's so you're putting them out of their misery

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're you can use the meat for other

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Speaker 2: This is is this. I almost feel like like we

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Speaker 2: don't really talk politics here, but almost like this is

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Speaker 2: because I feel like Manzi's looking at like on the

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Speaker 5: Ah, yeah, I just that's just yeah.

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Speaker 7: I'm not a hunter myself, but I get it.

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Speaker 2: I get it. Jason Stewart, you're a Southern California native,

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Speaker 6: Not odd. I'm not a hunter, I'm not a gun owner.

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Speaker 6: I don't. I don't really relate to that at all,

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Speaker 6: also I was a big, big fan of the Smiths

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Speaker 6: I understand both sides. That's very boring, but I'm not

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Speaker 2: I think that it's I think that it's just tough

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Speaker 3: You aren't if you aren't there, absolutely absolutely, it's hard

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Speaker 5: But you know, you know, okay, okay, I didn't know

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Speaker 2: But you could get out of school, like you could

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Speaker 2: get that's the great part about it, like and then go.

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Speaker 2: They had a special pass that you would be excused

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Speaker 2: on Monday and Tuesday. Yes, that's the week that we

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Speaker 6: Let's take your calls.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is brand new information.

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Speaker 3: But I guess okay, all right, you know that's that's

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Speaker 7: Isaac is trolling us with Bambi gifts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not. You're not shooting fonds.

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Speaker 6: You guys, you're not.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And if you remember Bamby, it wasn't Bamby who gets.

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Speaker 8: You know, you guys are missing the even more important

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Speaker 8: issue here. If people in Wisconsin get Monday and Tuesday

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: That's the bigger thing here. That's my bigger gripe.

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Speaker 2: It's like the it's like the smoke breaks, you guys

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Speaker 2: get the break. I didn't hunt, so I wasn't off

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Speaker 2: Monday and Tuesday. I went to school.

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Speaker 5: I would have pretended to hunt school there.

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Speaker 2: I think many many of people did. Uh, there are

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Speaker 3: So you have to go to school if you didn't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what if you got a permit you just didn't

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Speaker 4: did that. You did take a permit away from someone

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Speaker 5: We are you the only kid in school for two days?

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Speaker 2: I didn't play sports so we would have practice. But

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Speaker 2: there were kids, honestly that got the past that then

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Speaker 2: came back to practice because after hunting that day. True story. Wow.

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Speaker 2: But it also gets started around four o'clock, so you

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Speaker 2: more you know it is Tuesday, you know what that means. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Tuesday Morning Quarterback in the afternoon Tuesday.

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Speaker 9: To kid, this is Tuesday Morning Quarterback in the afternoon.

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Speaker 9: Mondays could be overwhelming. Tuesdays they're getting to whatever we

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Speaker 9: didn't get to on Monday. This is Tuesday Morning Quarterback

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Speaker 9: in the afternoon.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Dan, you do so. This person just made it

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Speaker 6: into monsi's Top three MVP candidates. Jackson Smith and Jigbu

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Speaker 6: and I have a feeling that he's in the top

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Speaker 6: three of your your rankings because he just after week

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Speaker 6: eleven through eleven weeks of the Seahawks season, broke the

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Speaker 6: Seahawks single season receiving record and own by DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 6: And that's kind of where I want to take this.

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Speaker 6: So Jsid is having an amazing year. He's fun to watch.

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Speaker 6: If you have him on your fantasy team, he's a treat.

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Speaker 6: But I do think there is a bigger picture thing

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Speaker 6: here and that it's the decisions made by John Schneider

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Speaker 6: over the years by the Seahawks. Follows a pattern and

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Speaker 6: here's how it goes. So they always said that Belichick,

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Speaker 6: a guy a year too soon as opposed to a

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Speaker 6: year too late. Right, you get the best value you

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Speaker 6: see it coming, and I think he did with DK

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Speaker 6: Metcalf on this one. I really do. I mean, Metcalf's

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Speaker 6: having his worst year. You could say that's the system

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Speaker 6: of the Steelers or the quarterback, but Metcalf is having

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Speaker 6: a bad year, while in Smith and Jigba is having

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Speaker 6: an amazing year. John Schneider great choice. Another choice that

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Speaker 6: he made in recent years, he let his quarterback go

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Speaker 6: a year two early, and we are finding out right

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Speaker 6: now in Las Vegas how that's working out. With Gino

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Speaker 6: Smith and Sam Darnold's having a pretty good year with

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Speaker 6: the Seahawks. Pete Carroll might be a one and done

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Speaker 6: with the Las Vegas Raiders. You could say that John

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Speaker 6: Schneider probably didn't have anything to do with that decision.

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Speaker 6: Maybe it was an ownership thing. Dan will be able

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Speaker 6: to fill in the bunks here, but again, a guy

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Speaker 6: that was probably left the Seahawks and it was a

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Speaker 2: I will piggyback off of that because I was gonna

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Speaker 2: talk about Pete Carroll's ten year in Las Vegas. But

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Speaker 2: to Jason's point, John Schneider didn't make the ultimate call.

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Speaker 2: Jody Allen did. And that ultimate call, though, was made

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Speaker 2: with John Schneider's staying put. Pete Carroll always had a

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Speaker 2: But Pete Carroll would say, hey, I want this guy,

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Speaker 2: and John Schneider would make it work. Now with Pete

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Speaker 2: with gas here. Yeah, right. I mean their draft class

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Speaker 2: a lot of things have turned to gold with John

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Speaker 6: Russell Wilson another one I totally forgot about that. I

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Speaker 6: think that was a Pete Carroll decision, but I think

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Speaker 2: They didn't want to pay Russell Wilson fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 2: they made the trade when they wanted to Gino Smith.

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Speaker 2: Gino Smith is making slightly more than Sam Donald. I

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Speaker 2: but the point is they said, we're not going to

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Speaker 2: look at the season that's happening so far.

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Speaker 5: Now, all the right moves have been made.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's what happens when you have less

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Speaker 3: I mean, not too shabby. The Seahawks are looking really

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Speaker 5: We've seen that. So this past week.

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Speaker 3: I was just impressed with what cam Ward was able

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Speaker 3: Can can your rookie quarterback figure this out? Is their growth?

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Speaker 3: Can you see something that you pinpoint and you're like,

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Speaker 3: cam Ward is figuring things out. It was the most

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Speaker 2: Just looks ugly. Yeah, it's not good. Sixty seven percent

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Speaker 2: by the seventy two Dolphins. I think for popularity and

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Speaker 2: for the lasting image that they left. Jason Stewart, would

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Speaker 2: you say that that's a fair assessment.

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Speaker 6: I think the eighty five Bears probably even had more

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Speaker 6: traction because of the personalities and this song. And I

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Speaker 6: don't know if you were going to get to this

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Speaker 6: or not. I just kind of did a brief surface

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Speaker 6: level search on the song. It was made and released

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Speaker 6: in December of eighty five. They were doing a song

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Speaker 6: called the Super Bowl Shuffle in December with still games

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Speaker 6: remaining on the schedule and a franchise that's never won

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Speaker 6: a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 5: Correct, the Shuffle.

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Speaker 2: Isn't there a dance the super Bowl Shuffle?

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Speaker 5: No, a different one, the shuff.

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Speaker 2: Don't no, No, that's a dead end.

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Speaker 6: There wasn't a ram.

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Speaker 2: There was the Icky Shuffle that was done a few

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Speaker 2: years later with Ikey Woods of the Cincinnati Bank. But

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl Shuffle was a song that, to Jason's point,

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Speaker 2: they recorded during the regular season where if they don't win, boy,

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Speaker 2: imagine it. Imagine the Eagles, yeah, releasing a song called

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Speaker 2: back to Back and they don't they don't win, like.

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Speaker 5: Sure, okay, yeah, real hockey, real early correct.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the Chicago Bears released the Super Bowl Shuffle

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Speaker 2: it was a hit. He beloved it. I think I

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Speaker 2: had the forty five record and the video was popular.

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Speaker 2: It would play on MTV. It was it was, it

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Speaker 2: was music. It was a Yes. They had a music

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Speaker 2: video as well.

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Speaker 5: Stop so is this they hold on?

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Speaker 2: Hold on?

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Speaker 3: They made a music video or out of this they

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Speaker 3: they put a thing together and made it.

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Speaker 2: They recorded the song, and then to go with the song,

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Speaker 2: they made.

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Speaker 5: A video stop yes, stop.

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Speaker 2: And Manzi, you're gonna see the video after you play

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Speaker 2: our Super Bowl shuffle game. You're going to be tasked, okay,

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Speaker 2: with trying to complete the line, kind of like the

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Speaker 2: Shazam game you see on Fox. Isaac Longcrown is at

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Speaker 2: the judge's desk. If you get the answer correct, you'll

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Speaker 2: hear a. Okay, you get it wrong, you'll hear a.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna give you the first half of a

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Speaker 2: line from three different players. All right, we'll give you

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Speaker 2: the first half of the line. The Jason, Sam and

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Speaker 2: myself each have a line. Two of those are incorrect,

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Speaker 2: one of them is correct. To fill out the verse,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have to decipher which is correct. First up,

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame running back Walter Payton.

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Speaker 10: Well, they call me sweetness, and I like the.

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Speaker 2: Dance to complete that is it? Give me the ball

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Speaker 2: so I can stomp on these ants.

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Speaker 11: Okay, Sam, running the ball is like making romance. Jason,

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Speaker 11: let's head to the club in my parachute pants.

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Speaker 3: No on, Jason's, I don't think that one. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: go with yours.

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Speaker 2: Dan, give me the ball so I can stomp on

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Speaker 2: the ants. You like that, I do. Well, let's hear it.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear it. No, let's hear it. No, stop that,

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Speaker 2: let's hear it.

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Speaker 9: Sweetness, and I'm like the dance running the ball.

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Speaker 2: It's like, now we need the X.

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, it was my line running the ball. It's

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Speaker 4: like making romance. I tried to really get the case.

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Speaker 5: He really did. No, that was impressive. I just didn't.

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Speaker 7: Okay, all right, we're iron out the wrinkles here in romance.

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Speaker 2: Got it. But but I'm glad that you thought stomping

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Speaker 2: on the ants because Walter Payton are running back right. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they call me sweetness and I like to dance. Give

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Speaker 2: me the ball so I can stomp on these ants.

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Speaker 5: Did you just make that up by yourself? Nice?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Nice? Nicely?

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Speaker 2: Pants is also later would you say, yeah.

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Speaker 7: Come around yet?

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Speaker 6: So, just just in case Mossie didn't know this, So

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Speaker 6: Walter Peyton's nickname was Sweetness, right and then and he

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Speaker 6: ran to content act like he he He was the

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Speaker 6: all time leading rushing yards leader that Emmett Smith broke

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Speaker 6: many years later. But he ran to contract contact. He

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Speaker 6: wasn't running away from it. So to say that running

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Speaker 6: the ball is like making romance makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 6: He loved contact, he liked friction, He like.

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Speaker 5: Got it. Okay, makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 2: The Bears had a quarterback that was a star in

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Speaker 2: his own right, Jim McMahon. Let's see how you know.

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Speaker 2: Jim McMahon's verse.

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Speaker 10: I'm the.

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Speaker 2: McMahon all right, is the following line, Sam.

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Speaker 7: I'm better than Marina?

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Speaker 2: Just ask Dan, is it when I hit the turf

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Speaker 2: I got no plan?

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Speaker 6: Or is it I spent last night with Wynn and Diane.

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Speaker 2: Jim McMahon, Okay, party animal.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I am I'm gonna What was your.

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Speaker 5: Line, Dan?

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Speaker 2: My line was, could you just play Jim mcmhon's first

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Speaker 2: part against Sam.

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Speaker 11: Yes, I'm the punky cube means McMahon.

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Speaker 2: When I hit the turf, I got no plan. Would

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Speaker 2: you like to hear anybody else?

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Speaker 5: I want to hear a Jason's one more time.

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Speaker 2: Let's give a little Jim McMahon heads up to that Sam.

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Speaker 6: Agan last night with Lynn and Diane.

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Speaker 5: All right, I like both of these.

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Speaker 7: Do you want to hear mini games?

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Speaker 5: No, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I'm there's no way he doesn't have a prin Dan

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Speaker 3: the turf.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Jason.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's hear from Jim McMahon.

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Speaker 7: I'm the punky cube meantys McMahon when I hit the.

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Speaker 2: Turf incorrect, oh for two?

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Speaker 5: Oh for two.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Lynn and Diane I thought were the

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Speaker 2: perfect eighties names.

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Speaker 5: Yes, say where?

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Speaker 6: So I saw this this lyric and I'm like, who

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Speaker 6: is who is the damn byer referring to? And I

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Speaker 6: thought Princess Diane and somebody else in the eighties that

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Speaker 6: was relevant, and I couldn't find one. It's either Loretta

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Speaker 6: Lynn or Lynn Redgrave red Grave. That's a big one.

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Speaker 6: It was actually just meant to be two groupie random

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Speaker 6: names that would have been twenty five named Diane and Lynn.

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Speaker 6: That's crazy, totally.

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Speaker 2: Isaac long Crown, I know you can't talk but is

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Speaker 2: any words on Manzi's over two performance so.

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Speaker 7: Far very enjoyable.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, let's see if you could go one

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Speaker 2: for three.

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Speaker 5: At least try and go for three at this point.

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Speaker 2: You know, do you know William the refrigerator Perry? Yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: So Fridge was a phenomenon because of how big he

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Speaker 2: was a rookie on Clemson scores a touchdown in the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. He also had the finishing line in the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl shovel. He had the last verse. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's hear from the fridge the rich. All right, Jason,

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Speaker 2: I may be large, but I'm no dumb cookie. You

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Speaker 2: could bet on the Bears. Just call your bookie.

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Speaker 7: We like taball and do it all for the niokie.

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Speaker 5: All right, Oh man, guys, this is difficult. This is

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Speaker 5: Can I hear him? And then you say you're lying? Sam?

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Speaker 7: Sure thing, here we go.

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Speaker 10: You're looking at the free is Iron the rich.

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Speaker 2: We like to ball and do it all for the nookie.

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Speaker 2: Did Fred Durst steal this from the Super Bowl shuffle?

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Speaker 2: Is the question? What was your all right? Can I

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Speaker 2: have the fridge just one more time?

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Speaker 10: You're looking at the free is Iron the richet.

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Speaker 2: You can bet on the Bears. Just call your bookie.

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Speaker 5: I would like to go with Sam.

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Speaker 2: You think it's Sam. I would like to go with

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Speaker 2: eliminated Jason right away.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, some eliminating Jason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because why would you say you're a dumb cookie? Right?

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Speaker 2: Let's hear from the fridge.

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Speaker 10: You're looking at the free is Iron the rich. I

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Speaker 10: may be loved, but I'm no dumb cooking for.

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Speaker 7: Oh struck out.

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Speaker 2: You're the Tampa Bay Buccaneers of this Super Bowl sho

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Speaker 2: like there's just nothing You're the opfer.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you guys for putting this segment in the show.

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Speaker 4: But Manci learned some things today. She did specifically three lines.

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Speaker 2: And during the break, you're gonna get to see the

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Speaker 2: video It's it and watch the HBO special tonight. It

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Speaker 2: truly is I.

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Speaker 5: Now, Yes, now, I will, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 5: We're going to create our own shuffle.

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Speaker 2: Other teams have tried. No, I don't think any sports

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Speaker 2: franchise or team has been able to match the greatness

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Speaker 2: of this song.

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Speaker 6: What the Giants did the one in eighty six that

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Speaker 6: nobody remembers, and then the Rams did Ramme Itt in

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Speaker 6: eighty seven or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure. I even think that the Bengals

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Speaker 2: had one when they went to the Super Bowl with

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Speaker 2: the Icky Shuffle and the whole deal, but none of them,

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Speaker 2: none of it cut off to the level of the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl Shuffle and forty year anniversary as the Chicago

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Speaker 2: Bears ended up winning Super Bowl twenty being the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: and that song then came to fluish.

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Speaker 5: That's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 9: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug

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Speaker 9: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on

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Speaker 9: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. She's Monty Blago, So

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer in for Doug today. Jason Stewart's the

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Speaker 2: show Executive producer. Isaai Glowing Crown has been at the

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Speaker 2: news desk and Iowa sam or technical producer.

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Speaker 5: I know what shuffle. I was when you guys brought

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Speaker 5: this up and I was like, isn't it like a shuffle?

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Speaker 5: I was thinking of the Cupid shuffle.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking of when I was like,

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Speaker 3: isn't it like a dance or something?

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Speaker 5: But yes, no, that was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: There was the Icky Shuffle, right, Monty was able to

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Speaker 2: actually see the Super Bowl Shuffle video during the break,

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Speaker 2: so good.

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Speaker 4: Also your Spotify shuffle, that's mean more contemporary. Okay, the

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Speaker 4: word shuffles still around totally.

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Speaker 3: I remember an iPod shuffle back in the then little

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Speaker 3: tiny one that was super fun. I'm upset that that's

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Speaker 3: not a thing teams are all doing.

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Speaker 2: That was so fun, right, it was such a part.

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Speaker 2: I had the record and like they the Walter Payton Verse,

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Speaker 2: we played the first part of it, but the end

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Speaker 2: he's like, we're doing it to feed the needy. The

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Speaker 2: proceeds went to food banks, and yeah, amazing, amazing those

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Speaker 2: who were hungry in nineteen eighty five. But it was

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Speaker 2: also such a different time, and that's why I love

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Speaker 2: that you actually thought Jim McMahon being with two women

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Speaker 2: in one night was appropriate and they would be Lynn

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Speaker 2: and Diane.

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Speaker 5: I did. I thought at the time that was.

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Speaker 2: She immediately ruled out a quarterback going on the field

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Speaker 2: with no plan, which I feel as half the quarterbacking

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Speaker 2: would get in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Today today, But I didn't think back then, maybe not.

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Speaker 2: Times were different then like they are now. And you

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Speaker 2: know who's telling us that Lane Kiffin, the old miss

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Speaker 2: Head football coach questioned yesterday about the drama that's going

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Speaker 2: on surrounding his status as the old miss Head coach.

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Speaker 2: Is he gonna leave? Is he gonna go? Will he

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Speaker 2: go to LSU? Is he going to Florida? Could he

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Speaker 2: go to the NFL. We're going to find out, we think,

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Speaker 2: officially on Saturday, maybe before then, but the schools saying

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Speaker 2: they were going to make an announcement on Saturday on

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Speaker 2: what the status of Lane Kiffin was. Well. Lane Kiffin

666
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Speaker 2: was asked yesterday about all the drama that's going on

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Speaker 2: in this situation. Here's what he had to tell reporters

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Speaker 2: in attendance.

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Speaker 12: It's a different generation, guys. I know, it's different than

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Speaker 12: what we were in when players couldn't leave and players

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Speaker 12: chose to go play for their home state a lot

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Speaker 12: and all that. This is a different generation. They all

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Speaker 12: can leave every year. A lot of that is financially based,

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Speaker 12: and so they don't think the traditional way that years

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Speaker 12: ago about their coach and what's going to go on

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Speaker 12: with him next year. That that's it's not how they

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Speaker 12: think anymore.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a magnificent game of misdirection. I just

679
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Speaker 2: don't buy it.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, he's one hundred percent deflecting.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely trying to explain why he's going to leave All

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Speaker 3: Miss because I think he's leaving. I think he's he's

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Speaker 3: whether he's going to the NFL, I don't think so,

684
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Speaker 3: but I think he's leaving, and so he's deflecting. So

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Speaker 3: when he does leave, you kind of feel you feel

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Speaker 3: for him. You're like, you're right, Like the kids aren't

687
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Speaker 3: the same. There's no it's not like you're building these

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Speaker 3: relationships where you can build a relationship with the player

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Speaker 3: for two, three, four years. Everyone's moving on. I get

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Speaker 3: it all that, I get all that, but I do

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Speaker 3: think he's deflecting. I also agree with what he's saying,

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Speaker 3: like even though he's deflecting, I agree.

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Speaker 2: I think that there are some kids who will leave,

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Speaker 2: and there are kids that have left Ole Miss before.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think you can talk about all eighty

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Speaker 2: eighty five kids on the roster that are feeling the same.

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Speaker 2: Not every kid is able to hop in the transfer

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Speaker 2: portal and go and get hundreds of thousands of dollars

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Speaker 2: more than they are at that point. There are there

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Speaker 2: are some top level players that we'll be able to

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Speaker 2: He's lost top level players previously. But I don't think

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Speaker 2: that the kid that is within the program. And guess what,

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Speaker 2: this may be the harsh part, but maybe that kid

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It sounds very harsh, But I just don't

705
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Speaker 2: think that everybody feels that way, that, oh great, our

706
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Speaker 2: coach is not here, are not gonna be here anymore.

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Speaker 2: Sure some may be able to leave, but I don't

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Speaker 2: think all of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the important ones, And that's mean to say, Like

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Speaker 3: you just said, it's like we don't want But he's

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Speaker 3: talking about the important ones, the ones that you can

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Speaker 3: build a program within, and of course you need the

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Speaker 3: guys that are beyond that.

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Speaker 5: But I agree with him.

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Speaker 3: I just think that with the way it is now, Dan, like,

716
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Speaker 3: think about it. When when I was a kid, it

717
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Speaker 3: was like I thought I knew everything.

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Speaker 5: And I knew nothing.

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Speaker 3: Had I had access to information the way kids do now.

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Speaker 3: They think they know more than you, And so I

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Speaker 3: feel like the kids are thinking they know better than

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Speaker 3: their situation. And the ones that are on the fringe

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Speaker 3: of like possibly making money or like staying to school,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna leave to go and make some money.

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Speaker 5: But back then that wasn't a thing.

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Speaker 2: I see. I think kids have always thought that they

727
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Speaker 2: knew more than they did. Now because they have access

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Speaker 2: to the information, I actually think it's more dangerous because

729
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Speaker 2: even though they know more, I think they know less

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Speaker 2: because they think they know more.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that that it is more dangerous because

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Speaker 3: now you have access to all this information. So whatever

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Speaker 3: you want to believe, you can feed yourself that you're

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Speaker 3: right right, Like it's like, no, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: I believe this, and I can prove to you that

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Speaker 3: I'm right. And that's the mentality I think with everybody,

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Speaker 3: even adults, but with kids now, they definitely think they

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Speaker 3: know way more than the adults.

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Speaker 5: I thought that back then, and I didn't know anything.

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Speaker 6: Jason Stewart, I think that two things can be true

741
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Speaker 6: in this specific situation. I think that Lane Kiffen can

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Speaker 6: be using this as justification to leave and convinced himself

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Speaker 6: of that. And I also think that kids indeed are

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Speaker 6: making their own decisions and they don't care. I think

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Speaker 6: that both things are true. I think that that there

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Speaker 6: are going to be much fewer what would you say,

747
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Speaker 6: heart's broken with Lane Kiffen leading that team than it

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Speaker 6: was twenty years ago or ten years ago. I just

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Speaker 6: don't think the investment in the head coach and player

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Speaker 6: is there as much.

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Speaker 2: I think that the times have changed. I think that

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Speaker 2: the situation has changed. I just don't think kids have changed.

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Speaker 2: I think that the surroundings and everything around it is different.

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Speaker 2: But I just don't I don't think that. I think

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Speaker 2: that there are certain generations that look at things. I've

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Speaker 2: said when I was growing up, to go somewhere and

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Speaker 2: work twenty thirty forty years was a badge of honor.

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Speaker 2: And I think that there's a generation now that said,

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Speaker 2: why would you do that? I want to just stay

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Speaker 2: at one place. I think that that thinking is different.

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Speaker 2: But to think that kids are different and not going

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Speaker 2: to be affected by him leaving, I just I don't

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Speaker 2: agree with that. Not every kids could, by the way,

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Speaker 2: but gonna be able to follow him to LSU. Maybe

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Speaker 2: a couple, maybe three or four maybe, but he may

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Speaker 2: want to go and take a kid from Texas, nexas

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Speaker 2: A and m Alabama, Michigan, you know, all these other places.

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Speaker 2: They come to LSU if that's where he ultimately goes.

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Speaker 2: And so I don't think everybody's happy. Our colleague gar

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Speaker 2: tore has quote tweeted that sound bite and said, I

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Speaker 2: know for a fact that on all players are happy

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Speaker 2: about this situation. Of course, not.

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Speaker 3: Because you're having success with this coach. Of course you

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Speaker 3: don't want to see him go. And it just sucks

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Speaker 3: because I think I am with Jason, and I feel

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Speaker 3: like the big thing is like relationships in sports and

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Speaker 3: college are not the same that they were even just

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Speaker 3: five years ago. You're building relationships and you're trying to

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Speaker 3: build a foundation. I don't know if you can do

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Speaker 3: that anymore. There is no foundation.

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Speaker 7: You don't have time.

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Speaker 2: You're right, yeah, there's and it's ever changing every year

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Speaker 2: in college sports. It's different and different. But I think

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Speaker 2: that I don't want to call it a convenient excuse,

785
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Speaker 2: but it feels like that for Lane Kiffin.

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Speaker 5: Like both can be true, like Jason said, and.

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Speaker 2: We'll find out on Saturday. After the Egg Now teg

788
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Speaker 2: with Dancing with the Stars, watch the Super Bowl Shuffle

789
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Speaker 2: doc tonight. She's Monty, I'm Dan thanks to Jason, Isaac

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Speaker 2: and Sam the Gottlib Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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